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Speaker 1: Your tuns About Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation, It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. West Hrueler and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: for the next two hours on a Wednesday as we

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Speaker 2: will kind of do some final bye week bigger picture

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Speaker 2: conversations and of course begin to take a look at

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Speaker 2: those Cleveland Browns. Matt, I know the stats are all done,

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Speaker 2: all prepared close.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Wednesday night is when they're due.

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Speaker 2: So is the one you sent me just kind of

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Speaker 2: a rough draft.

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Speaker 3: It's like rough draft number, you know, like because I

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Speaker 3: also do a Wednesday night show with Tim and Tom Sure,

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Speaker 3: so I always make sure they get something and they

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Speaker 3: have the day to digest it. Well. Of course do

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Speaker 3: I carry that show too.

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Speaker 2: From you, baby, Listen, I'm just trying to be sixty eight, Okay, Matt,

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Speaker 2: sixty six. I'm just trying. He's Swiss on Swiss. I'm

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Speaker 2: just trying to be sixty eight out there.

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Speaker 3: You're doing the job, brother.

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Speaker 2: Every every batman needs a Robin and that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: So we've got plenty to get to today. We're also

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Speaker 2: going to catch up with our buddy Chris Daanski lot

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Speaker 2: on right, We're gonna do a little around campus.

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Speaker 3: Love it.

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Speaker 2: I procured another kind of quarterback packet for you, some

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Speaker 2: similar names, some new names. I didn't even realize.

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Speaker 3: Its working a sucker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we we obviously highlighted once or twice this Saturday,

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Speaker 2: big one between probably the top two quarterbacks right now

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Speaker 2: and Mendoza and Dante more out there in Eugene, between

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Speaker 2: Indiana and Oregon. But as I was putting this together,

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Speaker 2: there's four, five, six really good college football games to

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Speaker 2: watch this weekend, particularly from the lens of could this

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Speaker 2: be a Steelers future quarterback? So we'll get into all

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Speaker 2: of that eventually today too, But man, I just wanted

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Speaker 2: to start with you kind of.

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Speaker 3: A I think I mentioned yesterday. I apologize sometimes I

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Speaker 3: get my wires crossed.

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Speaker 2: But you do a lot of shows.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I did a whole show on it, I'm

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Speaker 3: one of my specific ones. One of these days soon,

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Speaker 3: maybe even today or next week or whatever, we should

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Speaker 3: go through the league and see teams that are in

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Speaker 3: the quarterback market. Absolutely, it starts growing. By the way,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna get harder and harder for the Steelers to

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Speaker 3: get their guy.

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Speaker 2: It is, and that's something too that we should plan

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Speaker 2: to because we'll have a couple more open ended shows

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Speaker 2: the week after that Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Next week. It's weird and you and I need to

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Speaker 3: talk about our first bye week situation. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean things happen quick Thursday night game game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll be leaving Wednesday afternoon with the team,

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Speaker 2: So we'll figure out.

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Speaker 3: And we'll talk off the air.

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Speaker 2: But it's probably about that. That's problems for Wes and

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Speaker 2: Matt next week.

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Speaker 3: Baby, we won't have a show next Thursday, folks.

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Speaker 2: But yes, game day game days, certainly we'll be different

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Speaker 2: and we'll have to see what's going on Wednesday. We

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Speaker 2: will have a Friday recap show for sure. I might

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Speaker 2: be on just a couple hours of sleep, but we'll

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Speaker 2: get through it and then we'll be able to enjoy,

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Speaker 2: hopefully a peaceful weekend. Matt, let's dive into some way

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Speaker 2: too early NFL awards. I guess we're kind of at

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Speaker 2: the again. There's no perfect quarter poll in the NFL

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Speaker 2: anymore that they're seventeen games, but.

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Speaker 3: Steelers have played four.

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Speaker 2: Steelers have played four. Some in the league have played five,

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Speaker 2: We're starting to get into bye weeks all those things.

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Speaker 2: There's starting to be a little separation, not only in

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Speaker 2: the divisions, but also in some of these individual awards.

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Speaker 2: So I'll give you dealer's choice. Where you want to start.

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Speaker 2: You want to go MVP, Offensive or Defensive Player of

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Speaker 2: the Year the top, you want to go MVP. Let's

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Speaker 2: do it. That is the big one.

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Speaker 3: I haven't given these individual awards much thought. I did

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Speaker 3: just do a podcast re guessing projecting my new playoffs picture,

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Speaker 3: which is way different, way different, I mean, way different.

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Speaker 2: We can do that at some point here. Yeah, yeah too.

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Speaker 3: But I haven't given these a ton of thoughts. So

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, absolutely, MVP to me and listen, this has

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Speaker 3: I'm not even sure it's worth on anybody else because

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Speaker 2: Wasn't gonna win it last year, right, I mean, we

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Speaker 2: least for a long time. Matt. To me, I feel

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Speaker 2: like there are certainly some names in this list in

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Speaker 2: this or Joe Burrow into this, but that's a different

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Speaker 2: conversation to me. Right now, it feels like Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: feels like Baker Mayfield, feels like Daniel Jones needs to

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Speaker 3: Not the names we expected all yeah, yeah, right, but

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Speaker 3: I mean it's Alan, Lamar Mahomes. I want to throw

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Speaker 3: her in the season, he might be worth this. Putting

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Speaker 3: pays off the five. Yeah, that might be worth it. Alan,

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Speaker 3: I mean, yes, but he hasn't had the dominant stats

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Speaker 3: more mistakes. I'm not saying he's any worse. I think

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Speaker 3: he's as good a player as ever, but I kind

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Speaker 3: of think it's maybe one of the lesser known dudes,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean not lesser known. Everyone knows Baker

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Speaker 3: Mayfield or than these guys are NFL quarterbacks. Dak Prescott's

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Speaker 3: playing as well as anyone.

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Speaker 2: Deserves to be in the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Game.

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Speaker 2: They're two two and one right now. They would have

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Speaker 3: Mean, it's I mean, we know how the ward goes.

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Speaker 2: You can dominate college football. If your team is seven

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Speaker 2: and five, you're not winning the Heisman, right.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean you have to be really special. Stafford.

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Speaker 2: Stafford should be in the conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just throwing out names so I don't miss anyone.

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Speaker 3: I'm scanning. What I'm doing right now is I'm scanning

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, Jared Goff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think GoF has a probably better case than staff.

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Speaker 2: He might. He's been impressive through their five games.

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Speaker 3: I keep going back to Baker.

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Speaker 2: That to me right now, listen, Josh Allen, it's almost

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Speaker 2: the weird. It's boring to use it, to use a

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Speaker 2: Heisman example for you again. Can you tell I just

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Speaker 2: put together a quarterback stats pack. It's it's We've seen

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Speaker 2: one time in the history of college football somebody win

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Speaker 2: the Heisman back to back, and that was Archie. Archie

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Speaker 2: the years years old, right, like Tim Tebow, didn't do it.

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Speaker 2: Liner didn't do it a lot.

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Speaker 3: When people aren't even coming out early.

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Speaker 2: Or transfer exactly right.

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Speaker 3: And there's plenty of instances worry football player was the

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Speaker 3: best player in the country two years in a row,

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Speaker 3: no doubt, you know.

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Speaker 2: No doumbound right there. And it's not that no one's

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Speaker 2: ever deserved to win it the second year. But it's like,

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Speaker 2: if you win the Heisman, you had a pretty insane season, Yes,

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Speaker 2: even better? You know, that's almost kind of.

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Speaker 3: A little last year. Certainly if it's a tie breaker

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Speaker 3: between him and Allen, I we're kind of stick of you.

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Speaker 3: I think it hurt wat with Defense Player of the Year.

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Speaker 3: You know, it definitely hurt Aaron Donald to his career.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you had twenty and a half sacks last year.

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Speaker 2: This year he only had seventeen, Right, I mean, could

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Speaker 2: you really have been the defense There's some Remember these

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Speaker 2: voter fatigue and there's some recency bias and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: Whereas like Allen's have to be superb to get it

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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 2: To win an award like the Heisman or the MVP

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Speaker 3: And he hasn't done better, right you know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he still be the best, he might be the best

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Speaker 3: better statistically. That doesn't mean I wouldn't vote for him,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think the committee would, as is correct,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think anyone's running away with it either.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no. Like last year, it really

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Speaker 2: started to feel like it was going to be Lamar

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and hey, maybe by Halloween we're singing a different tune.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it is a clear cut two or three person

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Speaker 2: think I might give Baker. I think that you i'd

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Speaker 3: I mean, they didn't have Worfs, they haven't had Evans.

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Speaker 3: Godwin just came back.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of the And again it's not a great defense.

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Speaker 2: I almost wish I almost wish that MVP Awards were

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Speaker 2: like most Outstanding Player awards.

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Speaker 3: Because most valuable is misleading.

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Speaker 2: It's misleading. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like Sidney Crosby only won

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Speaker 2: MVP twice because everyone was always like, oh, if Getty

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Speaker 2: Malkin's so good, he can't possibly be the MVP. He's

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Speaker 2: got another top five player on his team, you know.

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Speaker 3: Like, because the Pens would survive without them, correct exactly.

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Speaker 3: What doesn't mean he's not the best player, but that.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't mean he was the best player on the planet

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Speaker 2: for you know, for a dozen years. So there's some

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Speaker 2: weirdness in that kind of MVP versus most Outstanding because

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Speaker 2: I don't think Baker has been the most outstanding, but

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Speaker 2: I in the in the true sense of the most

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Speaker 2: valuable player, I think it's Baker Mayfield right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned Daniel Jones, but I can't quite

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Speaker 3: bring myself there. And part of it's because if we

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Speaker 3: were to do Offensive Player of the Year, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: give some votes to Jonathan Taylor to totally, so I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure he's even the Colts MVP. That's a good point,

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Speaker 3: But of course this is a quarterback award.

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Speaker 2: It is, and maybe we could maybe Herbert will work

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Speaker 2: his way back into this conversation.

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Speaker 3: Kind of running away. Not running away, but was making

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Speaker 3: the strongest case.

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Speaker 2: If we had done this two weeks ago. This no,

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Speaker 2: not at all, and it's it's that again speaks to

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Speaker 2: the true nature of the award. If he can overcome

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Speaker 2: devastating injuries to his offensive line still got that team

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Speaker 2: to double digit wins in a playoff birth, that's value.

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Speaker 2: I mean that is most valuable Player overcome and all that.

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Speaker 3: Stuff they can rebound over. If they can survive a

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Speaker 3: like they did September, he'll be right in hunt.

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Speaker 2: One hundred per Let's go to Offensive Player the Year then,

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Speaker 2: It's the uh, I don't know, maybe third or fourth

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Speaker 3: Okay, I won't talk about it after this week until

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here as we get into some

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Speaker 2: way too early quarter season ish awards thoughts and predictions

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Speaker 2: here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt, perhaps I think

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Speaker 2: Defensive Rookie of the Year. There's a lot of guys

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Speaker 2: I think Abdul Carter deserves mentioned.

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Speaker 3: He was the preseason favorite by a lot, yes, you know,

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Speaker 3: Hard to be a corner safety.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, exactly right. But speaking of corners, I think

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Speaker 2: Doubt deserves a shout. I know again we're not allowed

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Speaker 3: In this covers you mention linebackers have a chance because

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Speaker 2: This could certainly be something, you know, in one of

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Speaker 3: Teed McMillan I would throw in there too, he's good. Yes,

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Speaker 3: He's attacking at all levels. Coming off a huge game,

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Speaker 3: He's blowing the doors off he is.

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Speaker 2: He's been outstanding leads rookies and receiving yards, receiving touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: part of these awards are the moments, the snaf shots,

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Speaker 3: We're talking about him every week and yeah, and I

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Speaker 2: And you know, right they get Bucky back. I mean

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Speaker 3: Season, I guess strengthened Baker's.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Finally here Matt Coach of the Year. This one

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Speaker 3: I feel like the Colts in there.

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Speaker 2: Colts have to be in there. Shane Steichen has to

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Speaker 3: Has because he lost both coordinators, coordinators a lot to

439
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Speaker 3: that offensive line.

440
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Speaker 2: I think everybody expected them to take a step back,

441
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 2: and they're four and one. Once again, Sean McVay in

442
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Speaker 2: the conversation.

443
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Speaker 3: I say Shanahan too.

444
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 2: Shanahan st in the conversation named McDonald in the conversation.

445
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Shanahan lost so much and they've lost one game.

446
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 3: They're the most injured team the league not named the Ravens.

447
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 2: This is going to be an interesting race to follow

448
00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of a lot of capable candidates. Heck,

449
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: if the Steelers end up winning eleven or twelve games in.

450
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 3: The divisions, out of it, right.

451
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen's not out of it. The Jags are four

452
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 2: and one. If they win eleven games and win the division,

453
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 2: he's got to get some some conversation.

454
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Speaker 3: And the and mcveigh's don't win it as much as

455
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Speaker 3: the new guy that you know exceeded expectations. You know exactly,

456
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Speaker 3: and that's a big chuck'll ever won it, you know,

457
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Speaker 3: like Bellichick won it one.

458
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Speaker 2: It's a big part. It's a big part of it too.

459
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Speaker 2: You have to exceed the expectations and because of that,

460
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Speaker 2: it kind of helps if you have lower expectations coming

461
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Speaker 2: into the year and then are able to to, you know,

462
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Speaker 2: win eleven or twelve games and win your division when

463
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Speaker 2: everyone thought you'd be picking in the top ten Chargers.

464
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Speaker 3: Harby I thought had a strong case when we were

465
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Speaker 3: talking about Herbert as MVP too. But they're starting to

466
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Speaker 3: fall off.

467
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Speaker 2: They're starting they're they're they're falling, falling behind a little.

468
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Speaker 3: Bit certain years of one of the weirdest ones to me.

469
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Speaker 2: It really is. It's it's always tough to pin down.

470
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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you're the best coach walking the planet.

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Speaker 2: Correct correct or else some of these guys go it

472
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Speaker 2: would have won it, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean talking about the exceeding expectations. They're definitely the team.

474
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Speaker 3: I think he's the most.

475
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Speaker 2: I think he's my one. I think Dan Campbell's my

476
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Speaker 2: two for right now, and then a lot of other

477
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Speaker 2: deserving candidates.

478
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Speaker 3: And one other name I throw out, there's Rabel certainly.

479
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Speaker 2: I mean, again, they make the playoffs.

480
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Speaker 3: I would go a long way. They were so bad

481
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Speaker 3: a year.

482
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Speaker 2: Ago, so bad, and and you know, yeah, there's there's

483
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Speaker 2: some real names that have a chance here. Liams won.

484
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Speaker 3: They won the division by two or three games and

485
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Speaker 3: win ten or eleven games and a lot of change.

486
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Speaker 2: Matt. That's uh our kind of quarter pole thoughts and

487
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Speaker 2: predictions and awards.

488
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Speaker 3: It would be Rookie of the Year. I haven't given

489
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Speaker 3: this any thought at all. I just.

490
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Speaker 2: Hm hmm. I think it's going to be Derek Harmon.

491
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Speaker 3: But right now, I think you could vote for him.

492
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Speaker 2: Now, right now, I might say, why are black.

493
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Speaker 3: Not bad? I mean definitely not Johnson.

494
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Speaker 2: Not Johnson swear we've seen some of But I think

495
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Speaker 2: I think why a black? And again there's some like

496
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Speaker 2: the exceeding expectations type thing where he just really put

497
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Speaker 2: his hand in the pile earlier than I think we did.

498
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Speaker 2: The second round pick, first round pick was her third

499
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Speaker 2: round pick is barely play. I think it has to

500
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Speaker 2: be black black at this point. Now, a month from now,

501
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Speaker 2: we might be saying Derek Harmon.

502
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Speaker 3: Right yeah, it might be enough. Like I always seen

503
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Speaker 3: a couple of games from he's the best.

504
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Speaker 2: Guy offensive Rookie of the year, can we I mean,

505
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Speaker 2: can we even pick one? Or you're just going Rookie

506
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Speaker 2: of the Year in general awards called Yeah, it's the

507
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Speaker 2: it's the mean Joe Green performance. Yeah ye, which, of

508
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: course Zach Fraser won this past season. Yes, Steelers m

509
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Speaker 2: v P. Aaron Rodgers.

510
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Speaker 3: Rogers tell you what.

511
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Speaker 2: Though, I think the last couple of games t J.

512
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Speaker 2: Watt's making making a case.

513
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 3: Certainly Cam, Hey, we're ain't dead, yeah, Cam, Yeah.

514
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Speaker 2: But it's got I think it's got to be Aaron

515
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Speaker 2: Rodgers at this point. I would say Newcomer of the

516
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: Year DK Metcalf, Okay, maybe Jalen.

517
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Speaker 3: Ramsey Yeah yeah, but I just man.

518
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 2: They would their their past game would really be struggling

519
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: without DK Metcalf.

520
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Not as many targets as you think though. No.

521
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Speaker 3: That's one of my Matt stats this week is he's

522
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 3: averaging like five and a half targets a game, which

523
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 3: is like forty third amongst wide receivers.

524
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Speaker 2: We need to get that up to go to get

525
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Speaker 2: that up into the top twenty five. All right, Matt,

526
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Speaker 2: uh you want to, I guess kind of say stay

527
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Speaker 2: same church, different pew here. We got a few minutes

528
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Speaker 2: left in this segment till we got a break. Uh,

529
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Speaker 2: you want to go around the divisions and pick our

530
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: new division winners or well, I guess some of them

531
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Speaker 2: will be the same as the beginning of the year,

532
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Speaker 2: but our division winners at this.

533
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Speaker 3: I did this the other day, so I think I

534
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Speaker 3: know mine off the top of my head.

535
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: Okay, and don't I think I can do this is

536
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: one of those like off fly things I think I

537
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 2: can do pretty quickly. Let's start in the NFC. NFC Yeah,

538
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: let's start in the NFC West, which I think is

539
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: one of the more interesting conversations.

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Speaker 3: I picked the Rams, and I thought that was the

541
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Speaker 3: hardest division winner to pick.

542
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Speaker 2: I think this is right now the hardest to pick. Yes, yes,

543
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: And there's a couple others, definitely the The AFC West

544
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 2: is tough to pick as well too.

545
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. AFC South is hard.

546
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Speaker 2: AFC South is difficult.

547
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Speaker 3: One thing about West. When we went into this, we

548
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: did a whole podcast on it, so it was a

549
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 3: whole half hour, so we went deeper than we're going

550
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Speaker 3: to in these few minutes. But we even went into

551
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 3: like the Niners, they only have one loss, but it

552
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: was to an AFC team. They already have some division wins,

553
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: like they're ninibreakers. It really matters, especially for wild cards.

554
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: For the Steelers. Man, they win these next two games,

555
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: and you're five and one. Your only loss was an

556
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 2: NFC loss year right, three and oh in the conference

557
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: in two and oh in your division. That's the heck.

558
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: It's a good start, right, But the Niners are really

559
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: sitting pretty. That's one thing that hurts the Rams a

560
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: little bit is their tie breakers aren't as good.

561
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: They're great, and the tie breakers already. I think I

562
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: would lean Rams though, too, just because I trust their

563
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 2: quarterback more than the others. I think Darnold's been good.

564
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: The Niners, man Mac Jones has done everything you could

565
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 2: ask them to do. And they'll get Rock Party back.

566
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: They'll get a lot back the Niners.

567
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But I.

568
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Speaker 2: Think I'm gonna lean on the Rams because I like

569
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Speaker 2: their head coach the most. I like their quarterback the most.

570
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 2: That's a tough one, though, to pay.

571
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 3: It was the hard we start with the hardest division,

572
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 3: I think.

573
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Speaker 2: Yeah, NFC South, it's the box. This might be the

574
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: easiest one to point. I mean, I could see the

575
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: Falcons showing some life and maybe fishing with eight or

576
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: nine wins, but feels like this one they.

577
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Speaker 3: Went every year. I mean, it's like the most underreported story.

578
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 2: They're like five straight years they've won the division and

579
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Speaker 2: been to the playoffs, and that has included the post

580
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: Tom Brady era. That's not just a Brady statistic anymore.

581
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Speaker 3: M hm.

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Speaker 2: This that one's pretty easy to me. I think with

583
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, NFC North is interesting. Nice start for

584
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: the Lions, but I certainly don't think the Packers are

585
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 2: going to go quietly into the either.

586
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: And I picked my preseason pick was the Packers, and

587
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 3: I had them going to the super Bowl. But I'm

588
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: gonna take the Lions just because they're in a little

589
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: better shape mathematically right now.

590
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 2: I might still take the Packers.

591
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: I totally get it. That was a coin flip from it.

592
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see I think we're gonna see

593
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: Parsons really unleashed here after the bye week. They do

594
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: have that tie breaker over the Lions, Green Bay does

595
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: at this point.

596
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: That's important, but this is also that weird tie. The

597
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 3: tie breakers aren't gonna matter for that.

598
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. I'm gonna I'm gonna lean towards

599
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: the Packers. I'm crazy impressed with how the Lions have

600
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: responded since that week one big loss at Lambeau, very

601
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: much so. But I'm gonna lean towards the Packers on

602
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: this one.

603
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: I'm taking the Eagles in the East still, Yeah, I mean.

604
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: And this one it feels like, I mean, Matt, it's

605
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 2: been twenty years since somebody won that division two years

606
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: in a row, which is which is wild? Yeah? I

607
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: think the Commanders could at least push the Eagles.

608
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they might be in the wildcard talk.

609
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: But this to me feels like Philly's division and in

610
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: the driver's seat. They just lost their first game in

611
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: ten months. I mean right, they're in pretty good shape.

612
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: They're in very good ship, very good shape. Let's take

613
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: a break here. We'll do the AFC when we get back.

614
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: I got three wild cards too.

615
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, let's do Let's do the NFC wildcards. Yes, sorry,

616
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: before we go to break, let's do that. Let's do that.

617
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 3: Who you got for wildcom I bet we both agree

618
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 3: that the other North team is going to be a wildcard. Yes,

619
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 3: for me, that's the pack. I also went with Seattle

620
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: and the Niners, and mostly because of the Niners tiebreaker stuff.

621
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Speaker 3: So I have the Commanders out, I have the Falcons out,

622
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Speaker 3: I have the Vikings out.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm going to agree with you on that. Okay,

624
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: the Commanders are still intriguing to me. I don't think

625
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: they're quite.

626
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: As goods for that seventh spot for me, but.

627
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: They you know, they were able to study the ship

628
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 2: without Daniels. Now they get him back.

629
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: Running the ball really well. Offense is gonna be good.

630
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 3: McLaurin is still going to come back.

631
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: But I think I think, I think I will go.

632
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm gonna go Niners, Seahawks and Lions.

633
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, the other North team. I feel pretty strong

634
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: about Seattle.

635
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: Feels pretty strong about Seattle. Feel pretty strong about the

636
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: other North team. Yeah, it's Detroit and green Bay.

637
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: That man.

638
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: I could see San Francisco kind of falling apart a

639
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: little bit, but I think they deserve the benefit of

640
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: the doubt at this day.

641
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 3: Go to Tampa this week, and it wouldn't shock me

642
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: if they could beat bad, you know, and all of

643
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 3: a sudden, we're like, but they were kind of held

644
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 3: together with duct tape and you know, yeah, but then

645
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: they might get kittle in a week and you can

646
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: to start to get right. There's a lot of talk

647
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: to they can try to trade for Hendrickson or somebody

648
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: like that too, which is right up there alley. They

649
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: do that kind of stuff.

650
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Speaker 2: A both of these conferences. I think the wild Card

651
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: races are going to be a lot of fun this year. Yeah,

652
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: a lot of fun this year. On the other side,

653
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: let's do AFC on the other side, we'll do that.

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Speaker 2: To close down the first hour of the program, Weser

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Speaker 2: Matt Williams, and it is The Drive on Steelers Nation

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Speaker 2: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Closing down the first hour of today's edition of The Drive,

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Speaker 2: Weser Matt Williamson, kind of going over some bigger picture

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Speaker 2: maybe kind of the final portion of this bye week

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Speaker 2: conversation in a lot of ways. Yeah, yeah, bigger picture

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Speaker 2: awards stuff, the Vision winners, all those things before we really,

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Speaker 2: of course, the next two days turn the page to

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns and we'll begin to do some of

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Speaker 2: that with our buddy Chris Adamski in the second hour

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Speaker 2: of the show as well. But Matt, we have got

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Speaker 2: to go through the AFC now to give our division

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Speaker 2: winners and our wild card teams. Let's start with another

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Speaker 2: tough one, the AFC West.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, right now.

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Speaker 2: You got the Chargers and the Broncos each at three

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Speaker 2: and two. You got the Chiefs at two and three. Chargers.

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Speaker 2: The good news for them is in those first three

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Speaker 2: wins of the season they built up some nice kind

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Speaker 2: of tie breaker equity. They've lost a little bit of it,

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Speaker 2: but they still are three and oh in that division,

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Speaker 2: three and oh against the AFC division. Yeah, that puts them.

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Speaker 2: You know, the season ended today, they would be the

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Speaker 2: AFC West champions via tie breaker. But I don't know

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Speaker 2: if either of us is going to be picking them

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Speaker 2: to win the division at this point.

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Speaker 3: I'm not. I think it comes down to the Broncos

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Speaker 3: and Chiefs. And I expected the Chiefs to win Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: They didn't. I thought they were maybe the better team.

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Speaker 3: But I am sorry to come around that. They're starting

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Speaker 3: to come around, you know that they I think they're

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Speaker 3: starting to turn a corner a little bit. RACI Rice

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Speaker 3: should be back soon. That'll go a long way. I'm

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Speaker 3: taking the Chiefs just because they've earned it. They win

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Speaker 3: it every year. I mean, I don't know if any

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Speaker 3: Reid's not never won the division.

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Speaker 2: It's a good point.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, because he was winning with Alex Smith before,

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Speaker 2: right before Mahomes even got there. This one's tough because

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Speaker 2: I am a Broncos believer. M Like, I really am.

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Speaker 2: I think that they are a dangerous team. I think

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Speaker 2: they have one of the best defenses in the National

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Speaker 2: Football League. Yeah, and I think I've been very encouraged

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Speaker 2: by the performance of bo Nicks over the last couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks after a little bit of a slow start

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Speaker 2: for him. Having said all that, here comes the butt.

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Speaker 2: I've said this to you, I think four or five

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Speaker 2: times already this year. The Chiefs to me have entered

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Speaker 2: Brady belichick Patriots territory. Oh yeah, Now, this division isn't

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Speaker 2: nearly as much of a cake walk as it was

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Speaker 2: for Brady and Belichick and those guys in the years

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Speaker 2: with the Jets and the Dolphins and the and the

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Speaker 2: Bills all stunk to high Heaven. Yeah, they had that

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Speaker 2: division one by Halloween but I am just I in

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Speaker 2: the same way that I didn't pick against the Patriots

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Speaker 2: ever back then. I'm not going to pick against the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs now I might either. I would love to pick

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Speaker 2: the Broncos. I don't know if I've ever shared this

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Speaker 2: with you or the Drive audience before I had with

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Speaker 2: Moats and on the Steelers Blitz and when the Steelers

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Speaker 2: would play the Broncos like they did last year, he

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Speaker 2: would always give me a bunch of grief. I was

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Speaker 2: kind of a Broncos fan growing up.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 2: I went to that nineteen ninety seven ninety eight AFC

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Speaker 2: Championship game at Three Rivers with my grandpa wearing a

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Speaker 2: John Elway Broncos jersey with my Steelers jacket over top.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I still have a John Elway and a Terrell Davis

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Speaker 2: jersey somewhere in a box in my attic. I was

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Speaker 2: a Broncos fan growing up.

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Speaker 3: It'd be an easy team to root for.

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Speaker 2: I was like one of the Like, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of kids around the Pittsburgh area now that love the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: and they got Patrick Mahomes just you know, because it's

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Speaker 2: just when you're a kid, it's just those guys are fun.

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Speaker 2: They're good. You're not like I can only root for

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Speaker 2: one team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was a Broncos and a Steelers fan growing up,

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Speaker 2: and so there's still kind of a very tiny there's

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Speaker 2: still a tiny little Broncos soft spot in my heart

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Speaker 2: from my childhood. Interesting, I would love to pick the Broncos,

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Speaker 2: but I'm going Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: I have no soft spot whatsoever for my team of

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Speaker 3: that nature. But when I was eight, nine, ten, twelve

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Speaker 3: years old and really really into football, and that never

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Speaker 3: really changed. Obviously, the Chargers were reinventing things. Eric coriol Yeah,

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Speaker 3: people didn't throw the ball like Fouts and Winslow Winslow

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Speaker 3: Senior and Chandler and Joiner and Jefferson. They didn't play

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Speaker 3: any deep.

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Speaker 2: They were a different gravy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you were a young kid, everyone loved

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Speaker 3: the Chargers. So the only non Steeler gear I've ever owned,

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Speaker 3: I guess what besides the Browns that gave that I

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Speaker 3: paid for fouls jersey. I paid that. Somebody in my

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Speaker 3: family paid for I didn't pay for that jersey. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: the only I've ever worn was Steeler stuff. Brown stuff

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Speaker 3: for a year. Quickly didn't go after that, although I

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Speaker 3: still have a sweatshirt, says Williamson on it from the brown.

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Speaker 3: Everything else went on eBay, but.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, I was gonna say it's a good memory.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the best memory.

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Speaker 3: That's a nice I want to keep that one. A

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Speaker 3: full sweatsuit, says Williams on both sides. Yeah, both pants

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Speaker 3: and sweatshirt. And I did have a fouls jersey.

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Speaker 2: I you could ask our our Steelers Radio Network game

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Speaker 2: day producer Dan Quinlan, when we went to Mile High

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Speaker 2: Stadium last year, they have like their kind of Haul

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Speaker 2: of Honor, Ring of Honor equivalent outside Okay, and they

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Speaker 2: have like little like almost kind of like the Pro

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Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame. There's like little head busts of

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Speaker 2: each of them, you know, Davis and Sharp and and

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Speaker 2: all and all and at Water and all they oh Way,

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Speaker 2: of course, so when we were walking in, they're all there,

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Speaker 2: and it's like Lway and Davis right next to each other.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Dan, you gotta take my picture real quickly.

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Speaker 2: I went up between the Terrell Davis and the John

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Speaker 2: Elway busts and like smiled.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't remember young Lway though, Like I do.

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Speaker 2: No, not really, but he was My first favorite football player.

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Speaker 3: Was Joe, which I totally respect because they're Even when

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Speaker 3: I was like new to media, I often said he's

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Speaker 3: the most underrated of quarterbacks. They went to Super Bowls

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Speaker 3: with nobody, with nobody, and people like, well, you know,

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Speaker 3: they had the three amigos, Like, tell me who the

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Speaker 3: three amigos are. I think one's last name was Jackson,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, there's three dudes, right right. They did lose

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Speaker 3: every time, but to take that team to Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: over and over was he was.

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Speaker 2: Remarkable, impressive, impressive. I think I've told you this before.

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Speaker 2: The first football game I remember like vividly was Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl thirty when the Steelers lost the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thinks funny, mine is the Steelers winning over the Rams.

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Speaker 2: I think I think that. I mean I was like

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Speaker 2: six or seven, and I think that's the only time

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Speaker 2: I ever saw my grandpa cry was when the Steelers

795
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Speaker 2: lost to the Cowboys in Super Bowl thirty.

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Speaker 3: But this I was pretty beat.

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Speaker 2: But the second vivid memory that I remember is Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl thirty two when Elway and the Broncos beat far

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Speaker 2: from the Packers and Elway did the helicopter right old

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Speaker 2: l Way and they and they finally won their first

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Speaker 2: before you know, going back to back and doing it

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Speaker 2: again next year.

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Speaker 3: Young was like Homes of the time though.

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Speaker 2: It was like the electric him, him and Lemieux and Yoager.

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Speaker 2: Where my where my guys growing up?

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Speaker 3: Good ones.

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Speaker 2: I would love to pick the Broncos, but I'm taking

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs. But I think we'll probably We're both gonna

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Speaker 2: have Broncos as one of our wild card teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll probably my top. Yeah, we'll get there in a minute.

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Speaker 2: AFC South another very interesting one. Three teams with as

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Speaker 2: real shot to do it. I might go Houston, Matt,

813
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Speaker 2: I totally get it.

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Speaker 3: I am taking a.

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Speaker 2: Cool experience in the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking the I like both sides of the ball

817
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 3: better than the other two teams. I don't trust the

818
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Speaker 3: quarterback as much as Stroud, but none of them are proven.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not betting against Mahomes or Lamar here.

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Speaker 3: I'm betting against Stroud and Lawrence. You know. Yeah, I

821
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Speaker 3: just think they're playing the best.

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Speaker 2: They certainly are in that yeah, yeah, they absolutely are

823
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Speaker 2: and one and in the Division four and oh in

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Speaker 2: the AFC.

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Speaker 3: The Colts their last shouldn't hurt him. Bad it was.

826
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Speaker 3: They lost the Rams, right, they did.

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Speaker 2: So they're in a good spot. They are in a

828
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Speaker 2: great spot in terms of those early tie breakers AFC North.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking the Steelers same, yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 2: I don't really have to think about this one.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not going to totally discount the Ravens because

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Speaker 3: I do think the Ravens lose this week against the

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Speaker 3: Rams bye and then come back strong. But that's such

834
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Speaker 3: a what are they not one in four? So that

835
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Speaker 3: would be one in five?

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Speaker 2: They are oh and two sorry, one three in the conference,

837
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Speaker 2: one and oh in the division.

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Speaker 3: So if they come out of the by one in

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Speaker 3: five with eleven to play, you pretty much have to

840
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Speaker 3: win nine or ten. And I know their schedule gets

841
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: a lot easier, but I bet they split with the Steelers.

842
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 3: They play the Packers. I think they have one another

843
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: pretty tough game and they're going to stumble somewhere. And

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Speaker 3: they're not. They're so banged up right right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine them winning nine out of the final eleven.

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Speaker 2: I can't either, and only gets you to ten. I'm

847
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: ready to stick a fork in the Ravens, especially if

848
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Speaker 2: they lose to the Rams this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I expect them to. I mean they're a

850
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Speaker 3: big dog.

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Speaker 2: AFC is pretty easy, is I mean, they Bill the Bills.

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Speaker 3: I know they lost to the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they'll run away from New England by

854
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: three or four games. Yeah, but I but I think

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Speaker 2: that they will.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty confident in the division. Yeah, probably even get

857
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Speaker 3: the number one seed overall in the AFC.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And like right now, if we had to do

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Speaker 2: the whole kind of like rank your confidence thing, yeah,

860
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Speaker 2: I think maybe other than Tampa Bay, they might be

861
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Speaker 2: the team that I'm most confident in the Steelers in

862
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 2: that conversation pretty soon, but second or third, yeah, I

863
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: I know that right now, those first choice. I know

864
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Speaker 2: they're just one game up on the Patriots right now,

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Speaker 2: and the Patriots just beat them. But I think again,

866
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Speaker 2: the Patriots are going to do the three steps forward,

867
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Speaker 2: two steps back, five steps forward, three steps back.

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Speaker 3: And I think we said yesterday, I'm definitely betting on

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Speaker 3: the Bills to win the next matchup.

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Speaker 2: What the spread is? Points? Okay, So there's our division winners,

871
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Speaker 2: three wild card teams from you, Matthew for the AFC

872
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Speaker 2: at Denver, for sure, that's one of mine as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're my easiest ones, and I'm trying to make

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Speaker 3: sure I took the Texans and Jags, okay, so but

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Speaker 3: the Patriots and Chargers out, no, you know who I took.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to make sure I don't do it differently.

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Speaker 3: I took the Texans, no, okay. I had the Jags

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Speaker 3: go because they did have one loss. I mean, they're

879
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Speaker 3: it's hard not to get in when you're four and one,

880
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: So Denver, Jacksonville, and then I was torn between Houston

881
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: and Baltimore. I still think Baltimore could end up with

882
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Speaker 3: nine or ten wins, you know, but Houston beat him,

883
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: had the head So if that's what it comes down to,

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Speaker 3: I'd like their chances of beating them.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm picking up what you're putting down there.

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00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: My wild cards are going to be, for sure, the

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00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: Broncos and the Colts too. I had Houston. I had

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Speaker 2: Houston winning the division, so I'm gonna go Broncos and

889
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: Colts for sure. I might go Patriots is my final wildcard.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's nuts. I had a hard time

891
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: leaving the Chargers off, just because if they can weather

892
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: this storm a little it's just bad vibes right now.

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Speaker 2: Vrabel to me is like a I don't know what

894
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: his ultimate ceiling is as a head coach, but I

895
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Speaker 2: think he brings a very high floor.

896
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Speaker 3: And one of those guys.

897
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Speaker 2: I think that team at three and two right now

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00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: can certainly win nine games, which would have him in

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Speaker 2: the conversation, could win ten.

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Speaker 3: It'd be a favorite. Get licking on them real quick.

901
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: Their upcoming schedule is so soft.

902
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 2: New Orleans, Tennessee, Cleveland, Atlanta at Tampa Bay, the next Jets,

903
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Giants. Right they should go six and two in

904
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Speaker 2: those games.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like ten wins.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like a ten And I do think I

907
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Speaker 2: can close the year down with the Jets and the Dolphins.

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00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 3: Like wow. I mean they got four games against those

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Speaker 3: two in the division.

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Speaker 2: They still play New Orleans, Tennessee, Cleveland, Cincinnati, the Giants,

911
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Speaker 2: the Jets Miami.

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00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 3: So even if it is two to three, step forward,

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Speaker 3: one step back.

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Speaker 2: I'm going Patriots on a wildcard team.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize it was that bad.

916
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Speaker 2: Patriots is my three wildcard teams.

917
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Speaker 3: Three games were super easy. I didn't realize the rest

918
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Speaker 3: of the schedules.

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Speaker 2: No Chargers no Ravens, No Jags. Jags I think will

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Speaker 2: be my first. If we're doing the March Madness bubble thing,

921
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Speaker 2: like first teams out, I think would probably be the Jags.

922
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Speaker 3: Jags have a tough game this week. I forget who

923
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Speaker 3: they play, but I could see them coming back to Earth.

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00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: They have Seattle this week and then the Rams.

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Speaker 3: I could see. They just don't seem like a five

926
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Speaker 3: and one team.

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Speaker 2: They still have Houston and the Chargers coming up soon.

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Speaker 2: They got to play the Colts. I think. I think

929
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Speaker 2: they're like, I don't think they're gonna fall off the

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Speaker 2: face of the Earth. I think they'll be right there.

931
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Speaker 2: But they to me, will be the when the Musical

932
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Speaker 2: Chairs game ends, they'll be the last the one. Yeah,

933
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Speaker 2: they'll be number eight who couldn't quite find a seat

934
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Speaker 2: at the table.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: Hour in the books another hour ago. That was a

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Speaker 2: fun hour. I enjoyed bigger picture stuff. Matt. We are

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Speaker 2: going to talk to our buddy Chris Danski and hour

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Speaker 2: number two. Before we do that, you want to go

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Speaker 2: around campus. Let's go around campus. Talk about a big

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Speaker 2: weekend for college quarterbacks. If you're watching on Saturday with

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Speaker 2: some black and gold glasses on. We'll get into that

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Speaker 2: to start Hour number two. West Shuler, Matt Williamson. It's

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Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio

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Speaker 2: Network