WEBVTT - Free Picks for EVERY Week 6 NFL Game (Ep. 356)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's time to place

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<v Speaker 1>your bets. It is me Joey p Joe Pi Zapia

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<v Speaker 1>and it's week six in the NFL and you can

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<v Speaker 1>believe it already. It's time to find some early lines

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<v Speaker 1>that we like that can give us a leg up

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<v Speaker 1>on our competition, to help us look ahead to the

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<v Speaker 1>games and where we can find that value. Sam Hoppin,

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<v Speaker 1>who joins us every single Monday here, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>fun week last week. Lots of early value. Sam help

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<v Speaker 1>us find a lot of that, So it's great to

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<v Speaker 1>see Sam. It's also great to see a new face

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<v Speaker 1>here on the BP side of things, Derek Brown, Debro

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<v Speaker 1>the King of Bros, coming over with us to talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little early line action. Filling in for Pat Fitzmorris

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. Deebro and I Thursday Night Football are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be live on our discord by the way too,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about some in game live betting for the Denver

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<v Speaker 1>Broncos and Kansas City Chiefs. Ken the Denver Broncos get

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<v Speaker 1>out of their own way. Probably not, but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean we can't make money off of it. And Sam Hoppin,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of making money it's a really good week for us. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the latter bet of Devon ah Chan was a big

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<v Speaker 1>money maker. You made the money. I made the money

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<v Speaker 1>on it. I hope all of you listening to Friday's

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<v Speaker 1>show and my mini monologue made the money off it.

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<v Speaker 1>How did it feel to get it in the first

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<v Speaker 1>half to Sam because to me, that was the most

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<v Speaker 1>exciting part. No sweat, just right for the jugular seventy

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<v Speaker 1>yard run and we made a lot of cash.

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<v Speaker 2>It was incredible. It was great to see him break

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<v Speaker 2>off that long run. I mean he's five yards from

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<v Speaker 2>these safeties and then two seconds later he's twenty yards

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<v Speaker 2>from them. I mean, his first and speed is just

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely incredible. Being able to get around the corner like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the market clearly mispriced those rushing lines. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be interesting to see what they have it at

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<v Speaker 2>this week. They have another potentially easy game this week,

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<v Speaker 2>so it could be a little bit higher than it

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<v Speaker 2>was last week.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be and it's rare that you get these

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<v Speaker 1>and which is why you know, we jump on them

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<v Speaker 1>when we see them, and it happens a few times

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<v Speaker 1>a year. It'll probably happen to get at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>but This was the first time that I've done this

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL season. I've talked about this on the

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<v Speaker 1>MLB show we do on our MLB channel. We did

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times with some strikeout totals, and we

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<v Speaker 1>crushed it, absolutely crushed it. Kevin Gosman at fourteen K's

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<v Speaker 1>one night we did six and a half all the

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<v Speaker 1>way up to the twelve and a half. It was

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant debro. Again, it doesn't happen all the time, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's certainly these opportunities that show up there, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is such an explosive player where you have to take

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<v Speaker 1>that into account. That being said, yesterday also some huge

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<v Speaker 1>overs on a lot of individual players there, even with

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<v Speaker 1>high expectations like Jamar Chase had high expectations, still crushed it.

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<v Speaker 1>David Montgomery, high expectation, still crushed it. So yesterday was

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<v Speaker 1>a really interesting day in terms of offense. What was

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing that stood out to you of all

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<v Speaker 1>those performances that over delivered that had high expectations.

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<v Speaker 3>I talked about it all week, Joey I said it

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<v Speaker 3>was the Jamar Chase nuclear game. I said it was

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<v Speaker 3>the bounce back for him in Burrow man, and I

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<v Speaker 3>bet the overs for Chase and people are following me

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<v Speaker 3>on Betting pros dot com slash debro. You already know, baby,

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about sixty percent. We're back in the w

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<v Speaker 3>this week, so I'm loving a man that and I

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<v Speaker 3>also got the money lines for the Saints and the

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<v Speaker 3>Jets at plus money.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was good week of betting boys. Good week,

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<v Speaker 4>and let's kick it over to week six.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 1>As you mentioned, Derek and I on the These podcast channel

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<v Speaker 1>Kansaity Chiefs, Denver Broncos, Casey coming out with a big

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<v Speaker 1>road victory, still trying to find themselves on offense. The

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<v Speaker 1>total for this game is fifty one, Derek. We're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the number here, Kansas City ten point favorites over

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<v Speaker 1>on points Bet, and then if you like the Denver upset,

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<v Speaker 1>which I do not, plus four twenty five, you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>a big number there. Look, the Chiefs haven't looked as dominant.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelsey could be in for a short week miss of

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<v Speaker 1>this game that could also have a big impact on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that this ten might be too much

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<v Speaker 1>under those circumstances that just laid out, or do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that the Denver Broncos are that hot of a mess.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're a hot mess, but I think the

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<v Speaker 3>points that you just brought up here, Joe, is that

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<v Speaker 3>if Kelsey's limited, this offense has not looked great. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to touch the spread, But as far as

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<v Speaker 3>would really intrigue with this game is I want to

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<v Speaker 3>hit the under on the total. Kansas City's defense has

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<v Speaker 3>played extremely well. I think Lugerius Sneed is probably going

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<v Speaker 3>to shadow Courtland Sutton. Take him out of this game

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<v Speaker 3>because he's been doing in three of the four games,

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<v Speaker 3>probably did it last week versus Jefferson two. And the

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<v Speaker 3>other part about this is that we need to bring

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<v Speaker 3>up here is both of these teams have been surprisingly slow.

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<v Speaker 3>Kansas City is thirteenth lowest and neutral pace. Denver is

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<v Speaker 3>checking in at the eighth slowest pace. So, however you

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<v Speaker 3>want to talk about this game, whether it's Denver falling

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<v Speaker 3>on its face, whether it's the slow pace. The biggest

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<v Speaker 3>betting opportunity for this game for me is the under

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<v Speaker 3>fifty one that you can get. It looks like unibet

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<v Speaker 3>at minus one oh eight right now? All right, Sam,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you see this one shaken out here? Any

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<v Speaker 3>early value on this Thursday night game, especially with some

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<v Speaker 3>potential question marks of Travis Kelcey.

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<v Speaker 2>I would totally agree. I mean that I don't see

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<v Speaker 2>a reason why Kansas City would stretch it with Kelsey

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<v Speaker 2>knowing how important he is to this offense, knowing they're

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<v Speaker 2>playing a Broncos team that can easily be beaten. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you know you mentioned they haven't played up to

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<v Speaker 2>their potential. I think in week one we saw the

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<v Speaker 2>receiver struggle with drops and stuff, and we sort of

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<v Speaker 2>expected that to turn around, but it just hasn't. None

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<v Speaker 2>of them have really stepped up to be the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>To Derek's point, Kansas City defense ranks top eight in

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<v Speaker 2>most advanced metrics except rushing EPA for play. So I

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<v Speaker 2>do think that Kansas City is going to come away

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<v Speaker 2>with the win here, but they definitely it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be I think a little bit more difficult to cover

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<v Speaker 2>that ten and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I agree people expect I tend to lean that way.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what the best bet here is boys Isaiah

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<v Speaker 1>Pacheco yardage over. I don't know what that number is.

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<v Speaker 1>He took it from me. I was just about to

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<v Speaker 1>say that this is as.

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<v Speaker 5>Soon as they drops, you're slamming the over.

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<v Speaker 1>Matter what is bet it? Even if it gets a

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<v Speaker 1>little high on the surface, just at it, because what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it's going to own tap any Joey?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I would say a half matchups see and that's

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say. I think in most matchups you're

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<v Speaker 3>looking at a checko opening in the high fifties or

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<v Speaker 3>low sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if he opens with let's steak to the DA nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're the data genius, what would you open that

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<v Speaker 1>number at check out?

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, Sammy?

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<v Speaker 2>I probably said it mid sixties issue, okay, because I

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<v Speaker 2>sixty six and a half excuse me? Yeah? Sixteens like

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<v Speaker 2>an ice number heavy their second in past right over expectation.

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<v Speaker 2>I think again, they're they're not going to struggle to

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<v Speaker 2>move the ball through the air, So it's just a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of do they get too far ahead where they're

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<v Speaker 2>putting someone else in at running back.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on now to the Sunday games here,

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<v Speaker 1>starting again in England, Tennessee Titans are home. In quotation

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<v Speaker 1>marks and air quotes, forty and a half is the

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<v Speaker 1>number four of this one. You get that over on FanDuel.

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee is three and a half point underdogs in this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore three point favorites again coming off a bad loss

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<v Speaker 1>to the Steelers where they just dropped everything. Sam, it

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<v Speaker 1>was obnoxious the amount of draft drops by that wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver corps plus one sixty two on the money line.

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<v Speaker 1>If you like Tennessee to win outright, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is in play. What's your take early on on this one, Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just say that Baltimore loss was so frustrating.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of my highest convention plays.

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<v Speaker 1>O tell me, I had one piece. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>last piece of a parlay five legs. All they had

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<v Speaker 1>to do was whin I got four of the other five?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Would I won another five hundred?

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<v Speaker 4>You can drop every single pass possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, So my rage is real. But continue.

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<v Speaker 2>So, speaking of the drops, that the Ravens lost over

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<v Speaker 2>five points of expected points on their drops. They just

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<v Speaker 2>struggled with the turnovers, obviously the turnover in the end

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<v Speaker 2>zone towards the end of regulation. That said, Baltimore I

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<v Speaker 2>think has a top four defense. You know, San Francisco's

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<v Speaker 2>up there. I think Cleveland's is up there to Dallas

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<v Speaker 2>despite what happened last night, but that defense is playing

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<v Speaker 2>exceptionally well. They're getting a little healthier in the secondary

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and Tennessee is just sort of middling at

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things. Their thirtieth in early down success rate,

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<v Speaker 2>which is not what you want to see. So I

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<v Speaker 2>take Baltimore with the points again despite what happened this

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<v Speaker 2>past week. And I think the under is also in

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<v Speaker 2>play here because Tennessee is a very slow team. Baltimore

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<v Speaker 2>I think gets slower and passes a little bit less

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<v Speaker 2>this upcoming week after having a two point seven percent

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<v Speaker 2>password to over expectation this past week. They were negative

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<v Speaker 2>the two weeks before, so I think this is again

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a similar kind of game to

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<v Speaker 2>what we saw in Pittsburgh this past week. And again

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<v Speaker 2>the Tennessee Titans have given Baltimore fits the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. See, Also, I love the under. I love you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that too, because you've seen a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these London games hit the out unders, like the little

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<v Speaker 1>sluggishness that comes out in the travel and all the

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<v Speaker 1>chaos of some of these games that happened. I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>on the Tennessee side of the plus one sixty two

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<v Speaker 1>just outright. I think that's where the that's where the

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<v Speaker 1>value lies. It's just the discipline of looking at saying,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's so close, give me the best odds, and

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that's how I make the most money. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing I said on Thursday Night Football, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe in the Washington Commanders. I said this

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<v Speaker 1>on the live shoot to Bogman. I was like, the

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<v Speaker 1>best bet on this is just to bet the Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>Bears outright and close your eyes and go to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>and hope you wake up and they win, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what they did. So I can think at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, Debro, it's my lack of faith

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<v Speaker 1>in either of these two teams just sends me to

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<v Speaker 1>the value. Where does it send you?

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<v Speaker 3>It right to the money line for Tennessee plus sixty two. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you give me plus odds on a moneyline bet, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>probably gonna be interested in that in this game. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>with Sam on I think it's a really good line.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I'm gonna hit the total, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>the under. And yeah, the money line for Tennessee is

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<v Speaker 3>what sticks out to me. And again, as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>the prop markets open, you can also interest me in

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<v Speaker 3>the overs for Za Flowers. We've seen so many missteps

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<v Speaker 3>and just miscues and just poor play out of the

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<v Speaker 3>Tennessee secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>The target volume is there.

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<v Speaker 4>Last week he didn't connect on deep shots. We've seen

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<v Speaker 4>Za Flowers a dot go up. So I'll be bet

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<v Speaker 4>in the over for his receiving yardage props and taking

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<v Speaker 4>the money line for Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he had a couple drops too as some other

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<v Speaker 1>drops yep, but some drops on the lst. Speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>the Washington commanders aforementioned, they are going to travel to

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta where they will be underdogs. Two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>is the number on DK. You're getting anywhere from forty

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<v Speaker 1>one and a half on DK to forty two on

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<v Speaker 1>this game over on FanDuel. I feel like Washington to

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<v Speaker 1>win on the money line is plus one eighteen debro.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a as Bogman calls him, Jekyl and Howell

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<v Speaker 1>situation here where Washington tends to play down to their competition.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was part of my argument on Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, look, when Washington starts beating teams they should beat,

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll be impressed. I'm not impressed as they go

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<v Speaker 1>and they showed up against the Eagles. I'll be more

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<v Speaker 1>impressed when they handle their business against the Arizona Cardinals,

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<v Speaker 1>which they did not really well, and then of course

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<v Speaker 1>we know what happened last week. But here you go,

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<v Speaker 1>they're traveling. They are underdogs in Atlanta. This is where

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<v Speaker 1>the commanders to me are interesting. Are they interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>you a little bit?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I feel like I'm kind of like being

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<v Speaker 3>seduced by the plus money, the money one. I feel like,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's a trap play, Joe. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like it's a trap baby, So I'm gonna sidestep the

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<v Speaker 3>money line for them. The one interesting part here is

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<v Speaker 3>it as bad as the Washington defense has been, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to sit here and invest in the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 3>Falcons offense a ton, but the over for the total

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<v Speaker 3>here does make some sense. Atlanta, there are pressure points

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<v Speaker 3>at where you can beat this defense. You can run

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<v Speaker 3>on them some you can't beat them in the slot.

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<v Speaker 3>You can beat them with tight ends. We know Washington

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<v Speaker 3>is gonna be throwing the ball a lot because they've

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<v Speaker 3>done that at pretty much in every single game. So

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of these lines are pretty good. I'm staying

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<v Speaker 3>away from the money line and the spread. I will

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<v Speaker 3>you can't interest me with the over for the forty

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<v Speaker 3>one and a half total.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, Sam, I want to pitch you a Hollywood script.

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<v Speaker 1>He ready. The Hollywood script is, Desmond Ritter gets benched

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<v Speaker 1>in this game, Taylor Heineke comes in against the Washington

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<v Speaker 1>Commanders and all hell breaks lose.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think about that if yesterday's game against

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<v Speaker 2>Houston had gone a little differently, I think that's in play.

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<v Speaker 2>But Desmond Ridder played by far his best game of

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<v Speaker 2>his career on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>And eventually I say, bar, Sam, it's a low bar.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a low bar, but I think it extended

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<v Speaker 2>the quote unquote grace period he gets with potentially like

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<v Speaker 2>being benched. It sounded like going into the game there

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<v Speaker 2>was no consideration at all of starting Heinike in the

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<v Speaker 2>game against Houston. So this is a tough one for

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<v Speaker 2>me again because you're probably buying the Falcons at their

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<v Speaker 2>high given what ritterd did this past week. But Washington, again,

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<v Speaker 2>they played poorly in the first half this past week,

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<v Speaker 2>but then almost mounted to come back against granted, the Bears,

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<v Speaker 2>but they did play much better in the second half.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think there's there's a lot of ways in

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<v Speaker 2>which game this this game could go. So your Hollywood

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<v Speaker 2>script not out of the question, But I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just pitching it to you. I don't want if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to buy it or not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like one of those things that gets a pilot

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<v Speaker 3>and then immediately gets cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything gets a deal in that stands nowadays, So why

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<v Speaker 1>not this story?

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I think you can end up on like

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<v Speaker 4>Hulu or something I love who.

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<v Speaker 1>My My take on this one too is I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>wait and I'm going to see if the Atlanta Falcons

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<v Speaker 1>good narrative continues to grow, because if that one eight

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<v Speaker 1>plus one eighteen starts to become plus one fifty on Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>I might jump on that because I this is exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of team that lows you into these false

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<v Speaker 1>senses of securities week to week where you're like, oh, look,

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<v Speaker 1>they almost beat the Eagles, let's go. They're gonna beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears. Oh wait, we lost to the Bears at

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<v Speaker 1>home on a short week. Gross, Well, then we can't

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<v Speaker 1>have any confidence in them against the Atlanta Falcons. Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>they just went on the road and beat the Falcons.

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<v Speaker 1>This reeks of that to me, It just absolutely reeks

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<v Speaker 1>of him. Another game that I think is fascinating on

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<v Speaker 1>this slate, Sam, I want to start with you on

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<v Speaker 1>this one. The Cleveland Brown's coming off of buye. They

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<v Speaker 1>are five point home underdogs. That defense has been great,

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers forty and a half. They're plus one eighty

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<v Speaker 1>eight on FanDuel. They're gonna host the San Francisco forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine ers, who looked like a juggernaut against the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>They sent them back to Dallas on their horses, hurting,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean absolutely embarrassed and hurting in that game. But

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<v Speaker 1>we all know this, right, You know, sometimes these teams

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<v Speaker 1>coming off these big games here that matter a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes there's a bit of a letdown. Letdowns tend to

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<v Speaker 1>happen when there's really good defenses. I know the Browns

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<v Speaker 1>offense is struggle bus, but do you think the Browns

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<v Speaker 1>defense can keep this game a little closer? Is this

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<v Speaker 1>more interesting than people realize?

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<v Speaker 2>No, not at all. The only thing, the only thing

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<v Speaker 2>that Cleveland has going for them right now are those narratives.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the leftdown spot for the forty nine ers. It's

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<v Speaker 2>them coming off of a bye. But San Francisco has

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<v Speaker 2>done nothing but obliterate their opponents. They don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>single game on offense between below zero point one EPA

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<v Speaker 2>per play, which is an incredibly high mark on a

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<v Speaker 2>per game basis. The Cleveland defense is good, but we

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<v Speaker 2>also thought the Dallas defense was good, and look what

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco did to them. They have The San Francisco

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<v Speaker 2>team has score differentials of twenty three seven versus the

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<v Speaker 2>Rams eighteen, nineteen and thirty two. They are blowing out

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<v Speaker 2>their opponents. The Cleveland offense is by far the weakest

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<v Speaker 2>unit in this game. They've only had a positive EPA

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<v Speaker 2>per play in their game against Tennessee when they exploited

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<v Speaker 2>that pass final defense. And I go through each game

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<v Speaker 2>before looking at the lines and make a line on

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<v Speaker 2>my own. I had this forty nine ers at seven

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<v Speaker 2>point favorites for this game, and thank you. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you four and a half point favorites on the

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<v Speaker 2>line right now. So again this the narratives lean towards

0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Cleveland and this is a lower total game. But man,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see how this San Francisco team just hiccups

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<v Speaker 2>right now. They're humming in every ask right at the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like you have An Ally and Derek Brown

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<v Speaker 1>in the same thought process. By the way, San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, in betting Pros, the best odds you can

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<v Speaker 1>get for them to win the NFC is plus two

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<v Speaker 1>ten over a FanDuel. It's shrinking. It's at plus one

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<v Speaker 1>forty over a DraftKings. This is why use the Betting

0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Pros app. It's why you download it, because why would

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<v Speaker 1>you want to bet plus one forty We can get

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<v Speaker 1>plus two ten right now. So, de Bro, you seem

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the same page as Sam.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, Joe is queuing this up to sit here

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<v Speaker 4>and maybe be so kind of job. I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not buying it.

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<v Speaker 1>My role here on the program, you set up interesting

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<v Speaker 1>questions for you guys to debate, and maybe there was

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<v Speaker 1>not that much debate on this one. That's fine. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Sam, don't get seduced by this. Next Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be absolutely relentless if this If the San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco forty nine ers don't do everything you said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying just say.

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<v Speaker 4>That's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>You could sit here and tell it's a fat I'll

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<v Speaker 5>I get to come in here and cause chaos and

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<v Speaker 5>then just that.

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<v Speaker 1>Being said, is it a cake walk here? With this number.

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<v Speaker 3>You just lock this to you do you lock this

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<v Speaker 3>four and a half in now at vandal you lock

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<v Speaker 3>it in right now, set it, forget it. I love

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<v Speaker 3>what Sam brought up because that was the line in

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<v Speaker 3>my head. I was like, this line is wrong, absolutely wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>San Francisco should be favored by six and a half

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<v Speaker 3>or seven. You need to be betting this now because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you that spread is gonna move more. And

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<v Speaker 3>this money line, I'm not telling I'm not betting the

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<v Speaker 3>money line, but minus two ten San Francisco should be

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<v Speaker 3>minus three hundred, minus four hundred, like they should be

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<v Speaker 3>a lock to beat this team. And I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 3>pile on top of the beating. Here, give me the

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<v Speaker 3>over for the total. And this is just simply San

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<v Speaker 3>Francisco just putting it on the Browns. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>see it, and I think it's gonna happen. Man, They're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna sit here and beat this spread. They're gonna absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>Put it on this defense.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing, this is why we do the early

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<v Speaker 1>line show folks, go ahead. Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing I didn't mention is Deshaun Watson did

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<v Speaker 2>miss their last game before the bye. Obviously have had

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<v Speaker 2>some time to recoup, but as of Monday morning, he

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<v Speaker 2>was not at practice, so that is something to monitor.

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<v Speaker 2>And if if this isson.

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<v Speaker 5>He doesn't play, forget it now did the team? Did

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<v Speaker 5>the team hold him out or did he hold himself out?

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<v Speaker 5>But either way, I love the point that Sam makes

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<v Speaker 5>here because as soon as that becomes a more generated

0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.439
<v Speaker 5>narrative out on social media and things, this line is

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<v Speaker 5>going to move quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, agreed, All right, let's continue. I'm betting it right

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<v Speaker 1>now as you're talking.

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<v Speaker 4>So man sets it up and bets it. Love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I set it up for kind. It's a professional se

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<v Speaker 1>I want to. But yet, have I not expressed the

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<v Speaker 1>narrative that could be out there, which is a very It.

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<v Speaker 4>Was expressed extremely.

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<v Speaker 1>I also expressed the narrative last week about the New

0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Orleans Saints. Andrew Rickson oviently me disagreed. I also won

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<v Speaker 1>that argument.

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<v Speaker 5>Because one of my favorite bets last week was to

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<v Speaker 5>tease also lining other people's pockets.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a nice twenty spot front of me, but.

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<v Speaker 1>We but we also teased up when my favorite bets

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<v Speaker 1>on the Betting Pros video I do every week my

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<v Speaker 1>top ten bets of the week teasing up the number there,

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<v Speaker 1>getting the three and a half, or even you get

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<v Speaker 1>four in New Orleans, all the numbers right, just to

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<v Speaker 1>get a better plus money on that. If you did that,

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<v Speaker 1>you cruised. Because the New Orleans Saints abstoually just obliterated

0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:45.679
<v Speaker 1>the do ENG the Patriots yesterday. They now are two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half point favorites on the road. Interesting spot

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<v Speaker 1>here against the Houston Texans. We've also played very well

0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:52.760
<v Speaker 1>winning games.

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<v Speaker 2>C J.

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<v Speaker 1>Stroud poise in the pocket looking good. You're getting forty

0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:59.560
<v Speaker 1>at Sugarhouse, forty one over at Caesar's. You're getting plus

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<v Speaker 1>oney t for Houston to win at home. Now, Debro,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a New Orleans guy. I know sometimes you're tough

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<v Speaker 1>on your own team, as I am tough on my

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<v Speaker 1>DOINGLD Patriots a time too. But here you go. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a fascinating game where all of a sudden, both

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<v Speaker 1>these teams kind of have good feelings coming into this

0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:18.520
<v Speaker 1>contest of good momentum. Who comes out victorious?

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<v Speaker 5>Here?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see any sort of early value on this line?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it is pretty close?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I would love to tell you that I

0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:30.320
<v Speaker 3>want to bet Houston at plus money to win at home.

0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:34.720
<v Speaker 3>The concern that I have with Houston is Tank Dell

0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:38.919
<v Speaker 3>left with injury. Also, Robert Woods is banged up. This

0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:43.200
<v Speaker 3>offense is going to be possibly at less than full strength,

0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:47.000
<v Speaker 3>and New Orleans is a really good defense. They've played

0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:52.240
<v Speaker 3>out of their mind. So the plus money for the

0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.840
<v Speaker 3>Houston money line is a little bit but I'm a

0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:56.879
<v Speaker 3>little bit alluring, but I feel like it's more of

0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:00.080
<v Speaker 3>a trap play. I think that the most enticing thing

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<v Speaker 3>for me here is to take the under on the total.

0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:05.600
<v Speaker 3>This game is going to be slow. Both of these

0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:09.439
<v Speaker 3>defenses have played pretty good to if not, Houston has

0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:13.280
<v Speaker 3>been underrated. So if you're gonna tell me New Orleans

0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:16.320
<v Speaker 3>defense has been playing out of their mind, Houston is

0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:20.000
<v Speaker 3>operating at possibly less than full strength, It's a close line.

0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.760
<v Speaker 3>I think that all the things are pointing me towards

0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:25.080
<v Speaker 3>the under, and then I'm just kind of staying away

0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:25.960
<v Speaker 3>from everything else here.

0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:28.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, Sam, how about you? This is a tight one.

0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Er You see any early value or is this a

0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:30.040
<v Speaker 1>stay away?

0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:33.119
<v Speaker 2>This is a stay away for me for now, But

0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 2>as we get more news on the health of Tank Dell,

0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:41.240
<v Speaker 2>like Debre mentioned, I'm leaning more towards Houston again. I

0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.120
<v Speaker 2>said the same thing last week, but it's the better

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:47.560
<v Speaker 2>quarterback getting the points here. The Saints defense has been impressive,

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:51.200
<v Speaker 2>but they faced the Titans, the Panthers, the Packers, the Bucks,

0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:54.240
<v Speaker 2>and the Patriots, which is not really a murderer's row

0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:58.320
<v Speaker 2>of offenses to face. And the Saints offense doesn't have

0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:01.560
<v Speaker 2>a single game with a positive EPA for play in

0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:05.200
<v Speaker 2>the game. So I'm going to continue to buy into

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:09.359
<v Speaker 2>the Houston Texans until the market treats them like what

0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.919
<v Speaker 2>I think the average team that they are. I mean,

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 2>they're not the bottom of the barrel team like everyone

0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.920
<v Speaker 2>thought going into the season. They've played well above expectations,

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.560
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think the market has adjusted quite enough

0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:22.120
<v Speaker 2>for that yet.

0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on to the next one here.

0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, let's go Carolina Panthers zero to five taking

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:32.080
<v Speaker 1>on the juggernaut Miami Dolphin offense. They are four and one.

0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:34.480
<v Speaker 1>The number on this one is already fourteen. The other

0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>thing that I put with the New Orleans game was

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 1>again one of my favorite bets of last week as well,

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Miami at the twelve and a half against the Giants.

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Why because the Giants are terrible and Miami can't be

0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:47.560
<v Speaker 1>stopped right now. I know Buffalo stopped them. It was

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:50.920
<v Speaker 1>more of a detour than a stop. Okay, Miami forty

0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>eight and a half right now is the total? Forty

0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:55.240
<v Speaker 1>seven and a half over on Bette Rivers, but forty

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 1>eight and a half on FanDuel Carolina Panthers are the upset.

0:23:57.800 --> 0:23:59.399
<v Speaker 1>We're not even to talk about plus six fifty. So

0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 1>it's just a matter of fourteen Sam, Is it too

0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 1>big of a number? No, it takes a lot. I don't.

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:11.639
<v Speaker 4>It's a good it's a really good number.

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 2>It's I think it's spot on. This is one where

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't have an early lean for. I think the

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:20.639
<v Speaker 2>number is right on. Fourteen points is is a lot.

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 2>I think Miami could cover it convincingly. But the Panther's

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 2>offense came back a little bit towards the end of

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:31.159
<v Speaker 2>the Detroit game. Not that they were going to get

0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 2>close to winning the game, but they put the pressure

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:38.680
<v Speaker 2>on a little bit and made a couple offensive drives.

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's tough. Miami kept the Giants in the

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 2>game from a spread perspective this past week. So I'm

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 2>saying away, I think this game is just gonna it's

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:53.359
<v Speaker 2>going to be a blowout, but fourteen points is a lot.

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Fourteen points is a lot. However, the Carolina Panthers inability

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Derek to like, the biggest deficit of the Panthers is

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>what this year, right, throwing the ball deep, expanding the offense, everything,

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>well everything, but that's a that's a big part of it. Right,

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:12.439
<v Speaker 1>So if they do fall behind, my point of this

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>number of still being in play right now is because

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 1>well I don't see them being able to catch up.

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:22.160
<v Speaker 1>That's the probably literally and figuratively catch up in this game.

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 1>So I'm actually still comfortable with this even though it's

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 1>a huge number. Do you see that also being a

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 1>problem for Carolina where if they get behind or should

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I say when they get behind, that they can't claw

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:33.199
<v Speaker 1>their way back into it because big plays is just

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:34.640
<v Speaker 1>not something this offense can do.

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 3>I would have said that more convincingly if I just

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 3>didn't see the Dolphins show a little like allow the

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:43.919
<v Speaker 3>Giants to have a little bit of life.

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 4>Uh now, yeah, that past six was a big thing.

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Like that was another one, like you take that pick

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>six and that mojo away from that. No, that's fair.

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:53.639
<v Speaker 1>That's the moment where that game is over in quarter

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 1>two two? All right, Well, we got to make sure

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:58.359
<v Speaker 1>we come out of the half and assert our dominance again.

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:00.159
<v Speaker 1>Like if you take that that seven away from the

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Giants and give it to the Dolphins, there, game over

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:03.439
<v Speaker 1>in quarter two.

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:04.640
<v Speaker 4>That's fair, that's fair.

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 3>I think where I sit with this game is if

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:11.400
<v Speaker 3>you really believe that Miami truck sticks Carolina, then bet

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:13.880
<v Speaker 3>the over on the total. That's where I sit with it,

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.359
<v Speaker 3>because I don't want anything to do with the spread.

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you.

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if the Carolina Panthers have enough punch

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.440
<v Speaker 3>to CounterPunch the Miami Dolphins.

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 5>But what we've seen out of the Miami Dolphins, they

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 5>can hang a forty spot. They could carry this total

0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 5>over all by their lonesome this week.

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 3>So as much as I question about how much Carolina

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 3>can CounterPunch, we saw the Giants be able to do

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 3>that a little bit last week.

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 5>If that door is at.

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Least swung open just a little bit, you're talking about,

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:49.160
<v Speaker 3>the Panthers showed some life versus the Lions. That passing attack. Hell,

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:52.479
<v Speaker 3>the Miami Dolphins, their offense alone could put up forty

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 3>in this game. For me, the most enticing bet for

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 3>this is to hit the over forty seven and a

0:26:57.880 --> 0:26:59.640
<v Speaker 3>half and the rest of it. I want to stay

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.640
<v Speaker 3>away the obviously know there's nothing for the money line,

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:04.159
<v Speaker 3>and I think the spread is spot on, and.

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.439
<v Speaker 1>Joe forget everybody they're still oh, so go ahead.

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:10.399
<v Speaker 2>Good to your point about Carolina crawling back. They allow

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 2>the fifth highest pressure eight on Bryce ru Young. The

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Dolphins defense generates the sixth most pressure on defense, So

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.479
<v Speaker 2>if Caroline is forced to pass it, it's not going

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 2>to be pretty.

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Say fourteen doesn't look so bad, now, does it? Gentlemen?

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:28.000
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0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:30.719
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0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:13.119
<v Speaker 1>on the DFS show on Friday. Here on BP you

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 1>mentioned about the Jamar Chase Joe Burrow restoration project. Well,

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>now they're at home against the Seattle Seahawks coming off

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>thereby forty six is this number on fandal forty six

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and a half on DK so generally in that same

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>spot plus one thirty six for Seattle on the money

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>line right now you're getting Seattle at plus three Cincinnati

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>at minus two and a half. So do you see

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>any early value on this one? Do you think the

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Bengals are just back now?

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 3>I think the Bengals are back, and I think that

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 3>if you're looking at this spread, I don't think it's

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 3>given them enough credence. I think that this is looking

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 3>at the first few weeks of the Bengals offense.

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 4>This is looking at the first.

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 3>Few weeks of what we've seen out of the Bengals

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 3>this spread, I mean, they're only favorite about two and

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 3>a half. This spread should be more like four and

0:28:58.520 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 3>a half.

0:28:58.920 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Five.

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 3>I think that this is not giving them, especially at home,

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 3>and what we've seen out of Seattle, their defense has

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 3>been a pushover. Now we're talking about Joe Burrow looking

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 3>more like Joe Burrow, and whether if we get news

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 3>that t Higgins comes back also, this is gonna move

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 3>in the favor of the Bengals. I don't have a

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 3>lot of interest in the total or the money lines

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 3>in this game, but for the spread, I think the

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:23.479
<v Speaker 3>Bengals cover this.

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 1>Sam, these lines feel about right to me unless you

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 1>really believe in the rebirth of the Bengals, which case

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>you jump on this two and a half now and

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>you roll with it. Is that where you are, Sam.

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm a little bit more apprehensive. I struggle to say

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 2>the Bengals are back after their performance against a bottom

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>five defense in the Arizona Cardinals. The concern I have ram.

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 3>Seattle's a bottom five defense too, like they can't pressure

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 3>the quarterback at this point they are pretty side.

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 4>Of Daniel Jones.

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>They cannot pressure it to your corner, back to your corner,

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>come out singing like Sam, Sam, What do you think

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>about that too? Seattle also lines up in that general

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 1>vane though in terms of ranking.

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 2>But I think they have they have more defensive playmakers.

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 2>They're they're coming off of the buy. The issue I

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 2>have with Seattle is their left tackle Charles Charles Cross

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 2>missed Monday Night Football and their left guard, Damian Lewis

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 2>was carted off. Their right guard Phil Haynes was left

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 2>early with a calf injury. So that's that's what we

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 2>call a cluster injury. And if that offensive line is

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 2>missing some of its starters, then it's it's going to

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 2>be a struggle no matter how good the the Bengals

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 2>offense is playing. So I think this is what I'm

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 2>staying away from right now. I think it'll be a

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:46.479
<v Speaker 2>really great game, to be fair. So I don't know,

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 2>it's just it is really tough again for me to

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 2>see the Bengals doing this again after the defense that

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 2>they faced at And I get I get it, and

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 2>I get the Seahawks.

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Returning Trey Henchterson returning to all the You know the

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>points you're making about the offensive line, you saw how

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>different that you know, the front there's the pass rush

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>was for the Cincinnati Bengals when Hendrickson was back, and

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>he was back yesterday and he made a difference in

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 1>that game without a doubt. Next game on this late here,

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Indianapolis at Jacksonville again Gardner Minshew playing in this one.

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 1>They are five point underdogs on the road against Jacksonville.

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Forty four and a half is the who excuse me?

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Forty five and a half is the number of FanDuel

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>forty five at Sugarhouse? Plus one ninety two for the Colts.

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Can the Colts pull off this upset here in your

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>opinion because plus one ninety two is a really good

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>number here, Sam, and the Colts keep winning games in

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville just kind of, I don't know, just kind of

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>barely escapes to feel like every single week when they

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 1>do have wins and then the losses, they look like

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>a team that's still kind of a really big work

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>in progress. What are your thoughts on this one? Real quick?

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 2>This is another super interesting one because we have Jacksonville

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 2>coming back from London after spending two straight weeks there,

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 2>so they're probably they probably have adjusted to that time zone,

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 2>by now and now we're going to have to reacclimate

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 2>to I guess Eastern time zone as they come back,

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 2>and that's something we just haven't seen before. And so

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 2>that said, I do think this should be another opportunity

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 2>for Trevor Lawrence to carve up the Colts defense. They

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars allow pressure at the sixth lowest rate in

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Indianapolis gets pressure at the seventh lowest rate. So I'm

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 2>taking the Jags here, but it is it is something

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 2>that again it will be fascinating to see how that

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 2>potential not layover in London, but extended layover in London

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 2>impacts them. I will say, I think this is another

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to bet the under on Jonathan Taylor rushing yards

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 2>because the Jaguars rushing defense has been phenomenal so far

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 2>this year.

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>It is a two headed attack though with Zach Moss

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>as well Debro the secondary here of the Jaguars. You know,

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>they give up some big plays here. We've seen that.

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>We saw it in London on Sunday morning. We saw that.

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>So in your opinion here, do you see any value

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 1>on the clat side of this game or are you

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>on the Jaguars favorite side.

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 3>I could see this game going either way. To be honest, guys,

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 3>I think that Jacksonville has shown us that they could

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 3>be a letdown team. Indy has also shown that they

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 3>have a lot of life on offense. So honestly, I'm

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 3>staying away from the spread and the money lines in

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 3>this game. Give me the over for the total in

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 3>this game, and we've already seen this play out.

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 5>They put up fifty two combined points in Week one.

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 5>This total right now, I think should be more in

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.719
<v Speaker 5>the forty six and a half range forty seven ish.

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 5>Indy's operating at the fastest neutral pace in the NFL.

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 5>Jacksonville can put up points versus this secondary, So however

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 5>you want to spice up this matchup, I think the

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 5>pace is going to be pretty good, if not very good,

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 5>in this game if Jacksonville can keep up, and you're

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 5>looking at an Indie offense that can push Jacksonville. So

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:57.959
<v Speaker 5>not only that, we've seen this runout before, and with

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 5>Gardner Minshew now playing, I think they're gonna be passing volume.

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 5>So the most intriguing spot for this game is the

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 5>over on the total because I just feel like the

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 5>line is.

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Wrong, all right, let's move on to the next game here,

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>battle of one and four teams. Minnesota Vikings head to Chicago.

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota three point favorites in this one. I'm sure you

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>know once upon a time when this number opened, it

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 1>was a lot different. Now it's just three forty six

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 1>and a half FanDuel forty seven at Sugarhouse. If you

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 1>like the Bears at home, it's plus one forty four deep, Brod,

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 1>you seen the early value on this line.

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh help me, I'm going to take the money line

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 3>for the Chicago Bears. I think this is a game

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 3>where we could see the Bears stack back to back wins.

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 3>They are definitely feeling themselves coming off of that win

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 3>versus the Commanders. Justin Fields looks like he is in

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 3>his bag Minnesota. Again, we're talking about a team that

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 3>do they have Justin Jefferson.

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 4>Their run game is not good.

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Chicago's defense might not be great, but they have been

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 3>a very good run defense. So I think a lot

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 3>of parts and pieces point two. It's Chicago at home.

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm ready for a Vikings letdown. Give me the Bears

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 3>money line plus money right now.

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, Vikings letdown would be the end of the Vikings

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 1>season here. Do you think that's what we're looking at, Sam.

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 2>End of the season. I mean, I sure hope not.

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 2>It's this is a game I don't really have much

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>of a read on. I really don't expect Justin Jefferson

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:23.880
<v Speaker 2>to play. Kevin O'Connell was pretty pessimistic about his hamstring

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 2>injury following the game, and I think that's I mean,

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:30.720
<v Speaker 2>he's probably the second most important non quarterback to a spread.

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 2>So it's Vikings still have some playmakers on offense that

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 2>could give the Bears defense some fits. But it's I

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:40.760
<v Speaker 2>can see this going a number of different ways.

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 3>To your point, Sam, If we get the Jefferson news

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 3>and this total drops, that kind of leads me to

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 3>wait later in the week. And I know we're talking

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 3>about early line bets, but I could see easy scenarios

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 3>with this total drop some and then I'm more intrigued

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 3>on the over.

0:35:57.840 --> 0:35:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know, makes sense.

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:00.359
<v Speaker 2>I think that logic could be.

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I have to wait. Look, this is one

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>where again, if you like it, you want to jump

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 1>on it real quick here you can. But there's a

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:09.839
<v Speaker 1>lot here with the Justin Jefferson impact of this game

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>that's a guy that moves the needle. New England at

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas. Gonna keep this one simple for you guys,

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>all right, it's the New England is three point underdogs

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 1>on the road as they should be, maybe even more,

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas minus two and a half. I know it's

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas. They're not great, but forty three is the

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 1>number plus one for for the Newland Patriots for the upset.

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>No thank you, I would tease this one right now

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>with Vegas past the three and a half. Heck, I'll

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.720
<v Speaker 1>even go to four and a half on this one. Sam.

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>To me, the New England secondary has nothing. You cannot

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>stop DeVante Adams with nothing. As long as he is

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 1>healthy enough to play again. I know that's questionable'll see

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>how he comes out of tonight's game. But to me,

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 1>this is easy. The Patriots are one of the worst

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 1>teams in football. Their secondary has been obliterated. Matthew Judon

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:54.839
<v Speaker 1>is done. They have no offense, they have no pass rush,

0:36:54.880 --> 0:37:00.400
<v Speaker 1>they have no secondary. Why is this number so small, Sam, I'm.

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Sure it's the injury concerns. Because for me, as long

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 2>as Las Vegas comes out of the game tonight healthy,

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 2>the minus two and a half is a huge value.

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 2>The Raiders offense is probably the best unit on in

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 2>this game. The Patriots defense, like you said, is getting

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 2>torn apart with injuries. Their offense can't move the balls.

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 2>It's confusing. Maybe it's the short week for the Raiders too,

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 2>is contributing to this not being higher. But I like

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Vegas in this game.

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 3>All right, So that's two for two, Debro, You want

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 3>to sweep this, yeah, I would take Vegas. And also

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm intrigued to take the over on the total here,

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:41.800
<v Speaker 3>and I know that sounds gross and people.

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 4>Could look at this total. People could look at this

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 4>total and say.

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:47.359
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, New England's not putting up any points, why

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 3>do you care about this? Okay, Vegas is not a

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:54.839
<v Speaker 3>good defense, and both of these teams are quietly top

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 3>ten in neutral pace, So you're looking at a matchup

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 3>with two pretty bad defenses. A home game for Vegas.

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 3>I could see them putting up points here and really

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.879
<v Speaker 3>good neutral pace of the play volume I think could

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 3>carry this over the total. So honestly, yeah, you can

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 3>give me Vegas covering the spread, and I'm intrigued on

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 3>taking the over for the forty two and a half total.

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's run through the next couple of games here,

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Detroit at Tampa. Look right now, you're getting Tampa plus

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>three and a half home underdogs, which is intriguing. Forty

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:27.800
<v Speaker 1>five and a half is the number plus one fifty

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 1>on the money line for Tampa. But Debro with all

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>the uncertainty with the health of everybody in the Lions,

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like this one's too early for me

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>to get a beat on. Do you agree?

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree. I'm staying away from the spread. If anything,

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:42.799
<v Speaker 3>I think the total is off on this one. We've

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 3>seen Detroit still be able to put up points. You

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 3>can run, you can pass on the Buccaneers. The Buccaneers

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.919
<v Speaker 3>have have fielded a much better offense than I thought

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 3>they would coming into the season. So again, maybe I'm

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 3>just being positive here on a Monday morning. But give

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 3>me the over for.

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 4>The total of forty four over at DK right now

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:01.839
<v Speaker 4>and pass that.

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm moving on Sam any value here, like if you

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 1>like Tampa at home underdog situation coming off of by

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Is this a trap game for the Lions?

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Again, not a trap game. You think all these road

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 2>favorites are in these trap games? No, Detroit is going

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 2>to come in handle their business. They get pressure at

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 2>a thirty nine percent rate despite blitzing at just a

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 2>twenty one percent rate.

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't you mean road favorites like the Ravens.

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:35.399
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean road favorites like the I think both.

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 1>That was just fun. Well, No, I'm just having a

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>good time with you there.

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 2>I think they both go into these games and take

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 2>care of business.

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 1>All right, Let's see if Arizona and the Los Angeles

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Rams can handle their business. The Rams five and a

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 1>half point favorites. Forty seven and a half is the

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 1>total for this one plus two twenty five for Arizona. Sam,

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you saw a cop, you saw Pooka Nakua. This is

0:39:57.080 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 1>a much easier assignment this week here in terms of

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 1>defensive front, you'll have to deal with the Eagles. Can

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the Rams cover this five and a half?

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I think so. Surprisingly, this was the Rams' worst passing

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>game efficiency wise this past week against Philadelphia, but I

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.359
<v Speaker 2>think another week with Cooper Cup that offense is going

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:18.280
<v Speaker 2>to be humming against a Cardinals defense that cannot generate

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 2>any pressure. Is twenty eighth in passing EPA per play

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 2>and thirty first in pass success rate. I think the

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Rams again are going to take care of business here.

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Actually, this number has moved to six. I see it

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 1>right in here already. So you have the best number

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 1>now is six. D Bro, are we jumping on this

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:36.320
<v Speaker 1>before it gets any bigger?

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 3>Jump on it now, absolutely. I think the Rams cover this,

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 3>and I say that, and I'm also willing to sit

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 3>here and take the under on the total. The Rams

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 3>defense has been surprisingly really good, and with the Cardinals,

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 3>zach Ertz is a shell of his former self now,

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 3>James Connor is down, Josh Jobbs looks like he might

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 3>have turned back into a pumpkin. I think that the

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 3>ram could run away with this game and pull this

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 3>to the under.

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 1>The Jets will host the Philadelphia Eagles, who are still undefeated,

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:08.360
<v Speaker 1>one of two undefeated teams. The Jets are six and

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 1>a half point underdogs at home on DK forty. Two

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and a half to forty is the number depending on

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:16.240
<v Speaker 1>where you look, the Jets plus two thirty here, So Debro,

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean to me, this one's easy. Like you can

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>like the Jets defense all you want, I don't think

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:22.320
<v Speaker 1>they can keep pace with the Philadelphia Eagles on the

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:23.879
<v Speaker 1>offensive side of your thoughts.

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Jets, I mean the Eagles cover. If this was the

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Eagles at home versus the Jets. Get the home favoritism

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 3>here a little bit, this spread should be wider than

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 3>what it is, So I'll take the Eagles to cover.

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Sam. Are you in the same mind too, where maybe

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 1>the Jets are getting too much respect on their two

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:41.320
<v Speaker 1>and three record right now against this Eagles team.

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I think so. I mean the Eagles are still one

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 2>of the better rushing teams. We saw Denver be able

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.720
<v Speaker 2>to have some success on the ground against the Jets

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 2>this past week, so I check.

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Out did two two weeks ago. Let's not forget that.

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Also, yeah, I think they'll be able to move the

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 2>ball easily.

0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>This is a fascinating one now because it's a huge

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 1>number and also now the calculus has changed. The Buffalo

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Bills are fourteen and a half point home favorites against

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the New York Giants. Sure the Giants are terrible, but

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 1>interesting pieces here. Matt Malano done for the year. Uh

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 1>Tredevi's white done for the year. It's a big piece

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 1>has gone for this Buffalo defense. I know the offense

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:20.879
<v Speaker 1>has been dreadful here, but if Saquan should be back

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:24.479
<v Speaker 1>this week? Is it interesting to jump on this line early?

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Here?

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Forty five is the total forty six and a half

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 1>at Sugarhouse, forty five at FanDuel. I'm not saying the

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Giants can win, but can they cover this Sam?

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I mean, I don't know what

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 2>the status of Daniel Jones is at this point.

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 3>If this plays, I seriously Dowdy plays, I.

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Doubt he does too. I think Tyrod Taylor might have

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:50.279
<v Speaker 2>gotten hurt at the end of the game two, or

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:54.879
<v Speaker 2>at least something happened to him, So I I don't

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 2>know Saquon Barkley can be back. That doesn't move the

0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:01.359
<v Speaker 2>needle at all for me. I think the Bills should hit.

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:03.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm much more confident in the Bills covering this fourteen

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:07.400
<v Speaker 2>points than the Dolphins covering against the Panthers.

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.359
<v Speaker 1>All Right, so you see this one the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>where it's just like Buffalo and a romp despite the injuries, Debra.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the spread is spot on. I really want

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of stay away from it, even though I

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<v Speaker 3>think if you want to go attack it that way,

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<v Speaker 3>then that's fine. I'm more intrigued by the forty five

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<v Speaker 3>total that I'm looking at right now, over on Fandle,

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<v Speaker 3>I would much rather just take the over for that

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<v Speaker 3>assuming and I say this with the assumption that Tyrod plays.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Giants can push back enough on this

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<v Speaker 3>depleted Buffalo defense, and Josh Allen is going to have

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<v Speaker 3>himself a day, so I think the Bills will carry

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<v Speaker 3>this over the total.

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<v Speaker 1>The offense carries it over the totals supposed to the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive things that are missing? All right, last one here,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, can we just get the Giants off

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<v Speaker 1>my primetime screen? Please? Can we stop this? For the

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<v Speaker 1>love of God? Dallas going to the Los Angeles Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>Britain the National game again. It's another Sunday night football

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<v Speaker 1>game with the Jets or Giants.

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<v Speaker 2>What do we Oh Joe, nobody you turn your TV

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<v Speaker 2>on for the game.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I do. I have to watch. It

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<v Speaker 1>pains me, I know, I know. That's the problem with

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<v Speaker 1>the Amazon games too, is I can't DVR them. It

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<v Speaker 1>tries to me crazy. But anyway, Dallas Cowboys, uh licking

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<v Speaker 1>their wounds, go to Los Angeles here to play the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers coming off of bye there two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>point dogs at home forty eight and a half is

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<v Speaker 1>the number plus one sixteen for the Chargers to win outright,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's real simple, de Bro. Does Dallas bounce back

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<v Speaker 1>or do the Chargers continue to pile on this this

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas team after they're reeling from that loss in San fran.

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<v Speaker 3>Chargers at home, close spread plus money.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go Chargers, roll. I thought that you were setting

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<v Speaker 1>me up for the Dallas Cowboys. Let's go h Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers roll.

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<v Speaker 3>Dallas has looked like a shell of itself on offense,

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<v Speaker 3>and I get that they're playing the forty nine Ers

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<v Speaker 3>and this is not the forty nine Ers defense, but

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<v Speaker 3>also Chargers are going to put up some points against

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<v Speaker 3>this Dallas defense. Losing Trevon Diggs was huge. It was

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<v Speaker 3>it has been huge for them huge.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam. Chargers don't usually handle their business in these kind

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<v Speaker 1>of situations.

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<v Speaker 2>Your thoughts, I'm on the opposite side. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>are getting a chance to buy Dallas at their absolute low.

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<v Speaker 2>They had by far their worst offensive output of the

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<v Speaker 2>season last night. I think this is a perfect get

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<v Speaker 2>right spot for them against the defense that ranks bottom

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<v Speaker 2>eight in every possible efficiency metric. Seems like justin Herbert

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<v Speaker 2>will play. It sounded like he would have been able

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<v Speaker 2>to play had they had a game this past week.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think it limits their playbook a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounded like, if I remember Correestley, he had like

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<v Speaker 2>one non shotgun snap after he hurt his hand. So

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<v Speaker 2>I like Dallas minus two here. I think again, the

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<v Speaker 2>Chargers offense might still be struggling to figure out what

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<v Speaker 2>they do without Mike Williams. So I like Dallas here.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they can can take care of business tonight next.

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<v Speaker 1>You get there. Yeah, minus one and a half right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I just see on VP two this wow change too,

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<v Speaker 1>So I have interest that, so there would have a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of change on that. So again, this is

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