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Speaker 1: And I think this series really showed that Miami not

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Speaker 1: Let's all say one nice thing about Johnny Quato.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to eat a little crow on that.

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Speaker 2: I suspected this would happen. I knew if I went

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Speaker 1: No requested, Noah, you have something nice to say about Johnny.

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Speaker 1: Quato, Oh my god. Like not Okay, let's put this

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Speaker 3: Not any single rehab start he did this. He gave

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Speaker 3: He did not throw up zeros at all. I think

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Speaker 1: Look, it's nice to see Johnny Kuoiita have success. I thought.

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Speaker 1: So I think if he can do that, that can

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Speaker 6: Because this guy was still very near the strike zone

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Speaker 1: He should be fine. Well, speaking of you talked about,

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Speaker 1: That has been brought to my attention by mister brawl

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Speaker 6: Come on, cord, I have I have no comments on

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Speaker 6: on this. Yes, it's been a good what five games

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Speaker 1: I I, I honestly don't don't see you guys.

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Speaker 6: Really think that this guy can go into the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't last year. He did it just last year.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but how much different has he done from last

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Speaker 1: You know he probably just those first few months.

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Speaker 6: Okay, he's that doesn't it's gonna continue.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad he's on a hot stretch. I don't ever

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Speaker 6: Player is going to fail, but this player has shown

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Speaker 1: And I can't get past that right now.

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Speaker 6: If he continues this for another two weeks, maybe he

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Speaker 1: But I've been doing it for a month. But you

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Speaker 4: He's you guys are both I guess fair. But he

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Speaker 1: He's not. And Carver is right. There has been more

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Speaker 4: But you know his last eighty or so played appearances,

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Speaker 4: He's opsing well above the team average, and I do

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Speaker 4: Less than fifteen percent on the year, not just in

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Speaker 4: And if he can, you know, sort of be what

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Speaker 4: Zero's Jean Cigre.

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Speaker 1: They had nothing. They did not have Jean Cigara.

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Speaker 4: But if they go with this type of Jeans Guro,

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the one thing that they have to

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Speaker 2: touch on that. I just in my opinion, I do

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Speaker 2: think pitching is where it starts, even though the hitting

440
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Speaker 2: has kind of been the storyline for much of this year.

441
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Speaker 2: Where I think it's pretty clear that is below average

442
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Speaker 2: and that is holding the team back. The one place

443
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Speaker 2: where it really is easy for this team to get

444
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 2: better is on the pitching side, whether that is with

445
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Speaker 2: a starting pitcher, and in my opinion, a starter is

446
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Speaker 2: a lot more impactful than any relief arm could be.

447
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Speaker 2: So that'd be my very top priority at this point

448
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Speaker 2: is adding another starting pitcher. The fact that they're coming

449
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Speaker 2: out of the break and three games into the second

450
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Speaker 2: half of the season they're doing a bullpen game. I

451
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Speaker 2: think that just says every think you need to know

452
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Speaker 2: about that current void they have on the roster.

453
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Speaker 4: All so after that Eli, I think number two and

454
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Speaker 4: it's like probably one be catcher they you know, Bortes

455
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Speaker 4: has been you know, things are a step back this

456
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Speaker 4: year that I do think that they can't win with

457
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Speaker 4: what they currently have.

458
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Speaker 1: A catcher.

459
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Speaker 2: Well, it's a weakness. It is a weakness. I don't

460
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Speaker 2: know if it's mandatory to address. You know, if you

461
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Speaker 2: don't address it, then you need to accept that it's

462
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Speaker 2: a big limitation on the team. And I think really

463
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Speaker 2: the only way to hedge it kind of is the

464
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Speaker 2: even more aggressive when it comes to pinch hitters. It

465
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Speaker 2: has been so disappointing Fortes offensively. Defensively, you could say

466
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Speaker 2: he's been kind of what you wanted, but I think

467
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Speaker 2: we're at this stage of the year where the numbers

468
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Speaker 2: are the numbers and he is hitting on the same

469
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Speaker 2: level that stallings Is and and both of them are

470
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Speaker 2: hitting at what is very poorous even relative to other catchers.

471
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Speaker 2: There's another complication with that, where these guys have to

472
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Speaker 2: if you acquire another catcher, they have to learn these

473
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Speaker 2: pictures on the fly during the middle of the year.

474
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Speaker 2: And that's a lot easier said than done to learn

475
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Speaker 2: those guys's tendencies and to make that work and make

476
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Speaker 2: sure there's no value lost on that side of the ball.

477
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Speaker 2: I would certainly be open to doing so. There's just

478
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Speaker 2: not a whole lot of guys that are available on

479
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Speaker 2: the catching side. And you know, some of the ones

480
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Speaker 2: that are some of the most popular names are ones

481
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Speaker 2: that actually have not been hitting well themselves recently. Like

482
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Speaker 2: eli As Diaz is a guy that I had circled

483
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Speaker 2: for like two months now as a guy that would

484
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Speaker 2: make so much sense for this team boat this year

485
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Speaker 2: and next year. But you look at his last month

486
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Speaker 2: and a half ever since he last played the Marlins coincidentally,

487
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Speaker 2: and he's not hitting any better than their current catchers are.

488
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Speaker 2: And so are you going to make that big trade

489
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Speaker 2: just to have a guy that can throw out base dealers?

490
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Speaker 2: Is that really worth it? What it's going to cost

491
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Speaker 2: to acquire him. Now, that's kind of the push and

492
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Speaker 2: pull that they have to go through in these negotiations,

493
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Speaker 2: So I'd welcome an addition. But when you really go

494
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Speaker 2: through the options, there's not a whole lot of catchers

495
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Speaker 2: out there that you can really count on moving the

496
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Speaker 2: needle that much. As poor as weird as that sounds,

497
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Speaker 2: because catching has been such a big weakness, I think, yeah,

498
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Speaker 2: to me, it starts on the pitching side, and there's

499
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Speaker 2: really no way to let this deadline go by without

500
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Speaker 2: doing something on the pitching side. With the other positions,

501
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Speaker 2: you need to look into every possibility and turn over

502
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Speaker 2: every stone, and you can't let in some situations that

503
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Speaker 2: I think even rentals on the position player's side, you

504
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Speaker 2: need to be willing to make that move if it

505
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Speaker 2: is going to be somebody that definitely fits in. But

506
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Speaker 2: as we get closer, it really is harder for me

507
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Speaker 2: to pinpoint hitters that I think fit seamlessly into this

508
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Speaker 2: team and be actually realistically available.

509
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Speaker 1: And that's what I.

510
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Speaker 4: Wanted to get to because I don't think catcher is

511
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Speaker 4: the second biggest thing. I would say it's starting pitching.

512
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 4: You need to start. I mean, you have guys going

513
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 4: down left and right. Trev' is still not even throwing

514
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 4: bad word. Who knows how much how good you will

515
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 4: be when it comes back, or how consistent. Johnny Quato

516
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 4: probably will make another start for this team. And you

517
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 4: can't go with the bullpen game every fifth day. I

518
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Speaker 4: think they should bring in and I'll I'll throw it

519
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Speaker 4: at me because I know we've spoken about it. I

520
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Speaker 4: would love someone like at Jordan Montgomery, who eats innies.

521
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Speaker 1: I know we spoke today a little bit about Marcus Stroman.

522
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Speaker 3: He's a bit he's a bit un the luckier end

523
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Speaker 3: when it comes to how he pitches because the sets

524
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Speaker 3: he's pretty lucky pitcher. And I know so I know

525
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Speaker 3: Lewis has mentioned Giolito as an option. Lancelin I think

526
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Speaker 3: was mentioned too. Those are all options mine could definitely

527
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Speaker 3: bring in. I think starting pitching is probably the market

528
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Speaker 3: that has the most options, and there's.

529
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Speaker 4: No real good catcher on the market, to be honest

530
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Speaker 4: with you, Yeah, and you guys are right also in

531
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Speaker 4: the fact that starting pitching is priority number one. And

532
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Speaker 4: you think about the two guys that have been healthy,

533
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Speaker 4: not including Sandy's Ward and practice, and they are throwing

534
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Speaker 4: career high and you can't guarantee that they're going to be,

535
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Speaker 4: you know, as great as they've been the rest of

536
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Speaker 4: the way either. You know, we always saw practice sort

537
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Speaker 4: of have a little bit of a of a stinker.

538
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Speaker 4: Would I would categorize it as so, yeah, you I

539
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 4: totally agree. I just don't know where on the offensive

540
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Speaker 4: I can physically I agree with the other time you

541
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Speaker 4: can't get a catch your middle of a year, it'll

542
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 4: probably do more harm and good. But what third base

543
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Speaker 4: short stum no Wendell knows.

544
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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's very tough. I don't envy Kim's

545
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Speaker 1: position at all. So Kevin kind of showed his hand

546
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Speaker 1: here a little bit. But with this article that I've

547
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Speaker 1: got coming out soon, we discussed this privately and we

548
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Speaker 1: all agreed upon who is actually a realistic option for

549
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Speaker 1: the Marlins. At this point, let's go around the table.

550
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Speaker 1: I want to hear everyone's favorite or realistic option for

551
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Speaker 1: the Marlins, whether you think they're realistic or not. Every

552
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Speaker 1: person's like top guy that they would like that seems

553
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Speaker 1: like he's attainable this deadline. We'll start with Eli make

554
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Speaker 1: away across here.

555
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, well I was this morning. I was laser

556
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Speaker 2: focused on the reliever side. So I will say on

557
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: the reliever side, my number one guy is Carlos Stevis

558
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: of the Angels, but I don't want to go too

559
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 2: far into him because you wanted number one realistic overall,

560
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: and as I told you, I think a starter is

561
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 2: going to have more of an impact than a reliever.

562
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Speaker 2: I'd love to find a way to get Lucas Giolito

563
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Speaker 2: from the White Sox, and it's gonna be expensive and

564
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 2: you have no chance of resigning him. But I'm playing

565
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: around with ideas of bundling Geoledo with somebody else on

566
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Speaker 2: that White Sox roster that's actually controllable beyond this year.

567
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Speaker 2: Make a pretty big blockbuster that way, because I feel

568
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Speaker 2: like somebody liked Giulido. He goes a long way towards

569
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Speaker 2: not locking up a playoff spot, but taking a huge

570
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Speaker 2: step in that direction as somebody that has the upside

571
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Speaker 2: to also start playoff games once you get there, because

572
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Speaker 2: that's gonna that's going to be another important factors. As

573
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: Isaac touched on, where your other guys in this rotation

574
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: outside from Sandy, you don't know exactly where they're going

575
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 2: to be physically by the end of the year anyway.

576
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Speaker 2: So to get him, I think he just moves the

577
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: needle so much from a rentals perspective, And yeah, the

578
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Speaker 2: complication is you're gonna have to give up one of

579
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Speaker 2: your very best prospects to get him alone, and for me,

580
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be willing. I'd be more comfortable doing that

581
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Speaker 2: if there's like a second piece involved that is around

582
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Speaker 2: beyond this year, So whether that's one of their relievers.

583
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Speaker 2: Gregory Santos is a guy that I'm really focused on,

584
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: but he's gonna be pretty expensive on his own, whether

585
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 2: it's him, whether it's anybody on the position player side

586
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: from the White Sox that makes sense. Yeah, with the Marlins,

587
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: it's if you're going to go for a rental and

588
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: you're going, but it's gonna be somebody that pricey. I'd

589
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: be so much more comfortable if there's a controllable piece

590
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 2: attached to it. But you said number one and you

591
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Speaker 2: said realistic, and he is very realistically available and he

592
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Speaker 2: would fit in so well with what the Marlins need.

593
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Speaker 1: Right now, all right, I'll go next year, I guess

594
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Speaker 1: because on my screen I'm second. Go off script here,

595
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: we're talking about pitchers and stuff. I put this out there,

596
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Speaker 1: and while he would probably cost a pretty penny for

597
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 1: two months and there's no shot of him being in

598
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Speaker 1: Miami twenty twenty four, I love with Cody Bellinger brings

599
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Speaker 1: to the table play center, probably would have play any

600
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Speaker 1: in the quarner outfield positions in Miamibody can been playing

601
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: first lot for if the Cubs and DH and of

602
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: course is an elite bat. Had quite serious this weekend

603
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: against the Red Sox. Has been amazing over the last

604
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Speaker 1: but his price keeps rising by the day. I think

605
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Speaker 1: if you stick Cody Bellinger in the middle of the

606
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: Marlin supporter, they become one of the most solidified lineups

607
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Speaker 1: in baseball, which I don't think I would have said

608
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Speaker 1: that at the beginning of the year. But he just

609
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Speaker 1: again he's on an expiring deal. There's a mutual option

610
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Speaker 1: in quotes for twenty twenty four, but you know I

611
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Speaker 1: pointed out to me yesterday, those rarely ever get accepted,

612
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Speaker 1: So he would strictly be a rental for the Marlins.

613
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Speaker 1: But uh was rumored to be in talks when the

614
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: Dodgers and Marlins were talking last deadline about a Pablo

615
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Speaker 1: bealluander deal. Marlins negotiated with him this offseason, and you

616
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: know he could finally make his way to Miami before

617
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Speaker 1: he goes and gets a multi year deal this offseason.

618
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: I have to figureback on you with that one.

619
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Speaker 4: During the off season, obviously there was some discussion, but

620
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Speaker 4: I think he just slightly went past Miami's price range.

621
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Speaker 4: But I think one hundred percent with you, that is

622
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Speaker 4: the number one. That's plan A for this team. I believe,

623
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Speaker 4: just defense, offense. It makes just seem so much better.

624
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 4: That's the guy they I wonder how what his price

625
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 4: would be because you just mentioned it's a rentals pure rents,

626
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 4: so I'm sure any team acquiring him knows that. So

627
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 4: I'm just curious what kind of prospect capital it would

628
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 4: cost to bring him away from Chicago. I've been playing

629
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 4: around with that idea too. What it would cost tonight,

630
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Speaker 4: I genuinely don't know. I've been looking at Cubs pages,

631
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: what Cubs.

632
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: Fans want, what other analysts are saying, but like I

633
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: haven't really sad and answered. Maybe we get that answer

634
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: this week, Maybe we get it when Craig talks to

635
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: us this time next week. But either way, whoever the

636
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: price is to have that that that inn the four

637
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: or five sixth spot wherever Miami puts them like that

638
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: that would be able to solidify the lone up in

639
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: my opinion, will go Alex Carver. Next. Who's your top guy? Well,

640
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Speaker 1: Eli kind of said it. They need starting pitching and

641
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Speaker 1: there's there's.

642
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Speaker 6: Nobody better right now than Montgomery. Jordan Montgomery is is

643
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 6: the guy that they.

644
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Speaker 1: Have to get. This guy knows what it's like to

645
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Speaker 1: be winner.

646
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 6: He's been with winning organizations, from the Cardinals, from the Yankees,

647
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Speaker 6: He's been with winning teams. He knows what it's like

648
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Speaker 6: to be as part of a perennial playoff team as

649
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Speaker 6: part of that winning.

650
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Speaker 1: Kind of culture. This is the guy that they really

651
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Speaker 1: really need.

652
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Speaker 6: To to to just eat innings so that they don't

653
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Speaker 6: have to go with bullpen Daves and and.

654
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Speaker 1: Maybe force one of their projects that's not ready yet.

655
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Speaker 6: You know who knows If they trade monte Verde, who's

656
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 6: one of their big trade pieces, then who.

657
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: Else is there? And there's really right now in the

658
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: minor league system, there is nobody else.

659
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 6: So we talked about it on on Fish on First

660
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 6: Live about how there's you're they're gonna need to rely

661
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 6: on guys from within. I do believe that they are

662
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 6: still going to need to do that, and right now it's.

663
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: Crazy to say it, but right now I think there's more.

664
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 6: To rely on from the bullpen and maybe even positional

665
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 6: side of things, and there is from starting pitching, because

666
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 6: there's just not a lot with the starting pitchers that

667
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 6: are ready to contribute right now, with the way that

668
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 6: injuries have gone and everything else, there's not a lot.

669
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 6: And especially if you deal from that at the deadline

670
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 6: for whatever they need or wherever they think.

671
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: They need, then it is still a strength in some ways.

672
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 6: But yeah, there's there's there's gonna be guys that they

673
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 6: have to trade from from that kind of depth to

674
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 6: get what they need.

675
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: So if you do that, and you know, if you

676
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: don't want to really really really push and.

677
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 6: Challenge starting pitching right now, which is what they would

678
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 6: need to do from within, it has to be a

679
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 6: guy like like Montgomery.

680
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: He's been great, been really good this year. Is like

681
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: a three point two e ur A. The whip looks

682
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: one point two, looks pretty good.

683
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 6: He's also playing in an a hit or friendly.

684
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: Division in the Central So no, this is this is

685
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: definitely a guy.

686
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 6: That they need, a guy that they want, you know,

687
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 6: who knows, if he comes back next year, maybe it's

688
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 6: a tru rental, maybe they bring him back, who knows.

689
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 6: I think they could bring him back, maybe on another

690
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 6: one to three year deal. If he does well, I

691
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 6: think that would be sufficient to bridge the gap.

692
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: To the to the high UH to the high quality

693
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: prospects that they have. But that would be a guess.

694
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 6: But I wouldn't be against him coming back either, So

695
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 6: I don't think it's a tru reental. I think it's

696
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 6: a guy that they could definitely bring back on a

697
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 6: one to two year deal next season.

698
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: And this is a guy that could be really really

699
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: good for them. So yeah, it's a guy that knows

700
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: how to win, and that's what they need right now.

701
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: So Montgomery is the.

702
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 4: Guy something that's gonna affect their their strategy this trade.

703
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 4: That is just what are they going to do exactly

704
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 4: with with Fury? Right, it's gonna come back as a starter.

705
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 4: Kim hinted at that maybe a couple of times if

706
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: the press covers a lone people park and on a

707
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 4: radio show the other day. So if he comes in

708
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 4: late August, do you, you know, sacrifice the prospect up

709
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 4: before Gioledo or do you just focus on offense.

710
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: If that's so, I'm just curious because they must know

711
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do with him, and then that's in

712
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: that sense, then they would know what they're gonna do

713
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: at the deadline.

714
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 4: So I think that's the whole thing that makes this

715
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 4: justifiable for them.

716
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: I maybe he does come back, it's in a limited capacity, man. Honestly,

717
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: I think it's more bullpen than starter. They've taken it

718
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: easy with this guy every step of the way, versus

719
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: challenging him to double A. That's the only thing they've

720
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: they've done to really push this player. But he showed.

721
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 6: Everything that he needed to show that he was ready

722
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 6: for double A. But they've never moved off of the

723
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 6: innings limit. They've never moved off with the pitch limit

724
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 6: per start, So I would I would be very surprised

725
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 6: if they I mean, when he gets to the playoffs

726
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 6: the six all gloves are off and who knows what's

727
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 6: gonna happen. But I would be surprised to see him

728
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 6: back as a full go you know, before that timeframe,

729
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 6: maybe late September. If they're staring the playoffs in the

730
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 6: face and they need to play very, very meaningful games,

731
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 6: and that's your best guy, then yes, maybe this is

732
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 6: the starting pitcher long term.

733
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: We know that.

734
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean with with how the the quality

735
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 6: of starting pitching depth has diminished over the course of

736
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 6: the last couple of months, Isaac, you know, without Uri,

737
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 6: who else is there? I mean, and there's there's obviously,

738
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 6: as we've talked about, a big fall off, and then

739
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 6: the depth itself, especially if they trade away from some

740
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 6: of it.

741
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: I guess we expect that they will.

742
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 6: I would expect that they will, even with guys that

743
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 6: are hurt or guys that are coming back from being hurt. Meyer, Fulton,

744
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 6: you can point to guys like that, and then you

745
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 6: go down to Fitter and Monteverde, like, they're gonna have

746
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 6: to include at least some of these young pitching to

747
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 6: trade with the team like the Cardinals, to trade with

748
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 6: the team like any one of these you know, big

749
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 6: time selling teams, They're gonna have to trade from the

750
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 6: depth of starting pitching. So yeah, it's a.

751
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: Tough go for starting pitching right now, which.

752
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 6: Is why I see a guy like Montgomery, they could

753
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 6: sign him for now and possibly bring him back next year.

754
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: Would months of verity be enough for Montgomery one for one? No, no,

755
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 4: no doubt it. Non we get one?

756
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, m all right, So Kevin, Now we'll move along here.

757
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: And by all, three names so far are going to

758
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: be in my article that will be coming out, and

759
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: these these are who we suspect tomorrows could realistically get

760
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: after that. That was a theme here. Yeah, Carver took

761
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: my guy.

762
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Jordan Montgomery wrote an article and

763
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 3: I really like what Miami could.

764
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: Bring if the acquire Montgomery and Isaac was talking about price.

765
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're asking, you know, to possibly get

766
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 3: the most sought out picture on the.

767
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: Market, aside from maybe Giolito.

768
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: I in the article wrote Needy and Carson ol Brandt as.

769
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: Possible options going the other way to Saint Louis.

770
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 3: I think that's something that Saint Louis really can't turn down.

771
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: But I will go with another name, and I'll go

772
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: John her Condo Lario, who I think was one of

773
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 3: the first players we wrote about as a as an option.

774
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: He plays third, he had believe, Yeah, he only plays third.

775
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: And I think this is just kind of a way

776
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: you can give gunsa Gris some more time off rest

777
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: days at them that he's.

778
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: Playing well, he's arguably I mean, I think it's.

779
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 4: One of his better seasons, and I think it's someone

780
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 4: that could bring in Powerton kind of thirteen homers on

781
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 4: the year he's playing well.

782
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: He really can't say it's a bad option in this case.

783
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 3: Mainly hits better against righty's than lefties, So I like

784
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: Montgomery a lot on the pitching end, but I really

785
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: wouldn't hate bringing Jammer Conde Larry.

786
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: I believe that's also a guy on a rental, so

787
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: in that.

788
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 4: Case, I would think Miami has some type of a

789
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 4: shot to resign him, but it's unlikely.

790
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 3: So I think this makes a lot of sense if

791
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 3: for trying to find a bat, and I know Condo Laar.

792
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: Is definitely a Grant article. He's one of the first

793
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: names we all lostiz in there, but he kind of

794
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: showed his hand. He does like Belly. I think he's

795
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: got some pictures of mine too. We'll go Daniel though,

796
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: on who your favorite realistic option is for realistic trade targets,

797
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: I'm going really realistic.

798
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 8: I don't think that Marlins are I don't think I

799
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 8: don't see him as someone getting Stroman in Gielito. I

800
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 8: think that might be a little bit out of the

801
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 8: price range. I'm going really really realistic something I can

802
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 8: actually see the Marlins doing.

803
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: They do a need starting pitching. You and somebody mentioned the.

804
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 8: Eat innings and to do it a somewhat quality way.

805
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 8: I'm gonna give you two guys because I think they're

806
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 8: both realistically kind of like the same picture, both rentals,

807
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 8: both guys on teams.

808
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: That aren't really performing that well.

809
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 8: Maybe except one of them, you could say, I'm gonna

810
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 8: go James Paxton and Michael Lorenzen, two guys having e

811
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 8: ras under four can eat innings, having really good seasons

812
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 8: on I believe one year deals or ending on the

813
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 8: firing contracts as rentals. I think they come in eat

814
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 8: innings and really both your linemup that we don't need

815
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 8: to have any more early after any more openers, or

816
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 8: having you know, these relief pitchers play out there and

817
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 8: really get started.

818
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: Quality innings is what the Marlins have dest really needed.

819
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 8: Someone can go in the back end and have a

820
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 8: fifth fourth hole in that rotation. I think James Paxton

821
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 8: Michael Lorenzen are two guys that could definitely fit that role.

822
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 8: You look at Michael Lorenzon the other day, six and

823
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 8: two third innings against.

824
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: Seattle, zero runs. He also had seven strikeouts. The only

825
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: thing with him walks maybe a little bit too much

826
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: to to like, but I think you can limit those.

827
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 8: But I think Paxa and Lorenzo are two of the

828
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 8: most realistic, realistic options that the Marlons might look at

829
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 8: at the deadline.

830
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: Really that realistic Boston's in it. I don't think they're

831
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: gonna be. Boston's been crazy, really, I don't. I don't

832
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: think they sell Lorenz very He's gone pretty lucky. I

833
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: think Lorenzo could definitely. I think they could definitely trick

834
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: for that.

835
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 8: I don't think he expensive to like Strowman or Giolo

836
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 8: and the Marlins we're talking about, I don't think they

837
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 8: want to bank up their future for.

838
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: A guy for three months.

839
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 2: I did want to pass along an important update on Condelario.

840
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: He left Friday's game with a bone bruise and his

841
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: thumb and he didn't play yesterday or today, so they

842
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: haven't put him on the I L yet, but we

843
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: will see. It's the day by day thing that's play

844
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: against tomorrow. I'll be fascinated to see if he's in

845
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: the lineup. It's you know, it's it's a little dicey

846
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't think that that's going to keep him

847
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: out beyond the trade deadline. That does impact things, though,

848
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: if he's gonna miss some time, if he's going to

849
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: you don't know exactly how how much time he's gonna

850
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: need to it. You don't get his his timing back

851
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: if it is not el stint. But we will see.

852
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 2: Candelario has missed a couple of days. I just want

853
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: to pass that along for anybody that wasn't aware that

854
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: he's dealing with a bone bruise and his thumb.

855
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: This is good enough, thank you. I didn't realize he

856
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: had missed the past two days. But I like Daniels options.

857
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: I have both those pictures in my next year. I

858
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: didn't write about him in this article packs and probably

859
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: won't get traded if Boss keeps winning the way they are.

860
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: They've been on fire this month's I think, coming into

861
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: the All Star break or come out of it rather

862
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: Since that Marlin sweep, they had won like nine out

863
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: of ten. They've been going crazy, and then the renz In,

864
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: he's definitely attainable, but like what Kevin said, his numbers

865
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: haven't been great and he's this suggested that he's gotten

866
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: a little lucky. And of course that All Star not

867
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: is just because he plays for Detroit. But I like

868
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: where Daniels said that, whereas it is realistic to think

869
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: that those are the types of pictures that the Marlins

870
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: will get there. They are going to go for exactly

871
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: an ACE, but a good three four five guy. Those

872
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Speaker 1: guys following that category. So we got Lewis around the

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Speaker 1: South as it comes back, and then we'll will get

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Speaker 1: to the best part. Fan questions, who's your guy the deadline?

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Speaker 2: I think he has some technical issues.

876
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you can hear it.

877
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Speaker 2: Yeah, his favorite realistic option is Clinton Kershaw.

878
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just got to Tad Yes Hunts talking.

879
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Speaker 6: I don't know how that's gonna happen, considering he won't

880
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Speaker 6: be back until August. But now you can hear overtake

881
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Speaker 6: the Diamondbacks, which it seems like they already have.

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Speaker 1: You can hear us now, okay, well you could hear me.

883
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Speaker 1: I guess he heard. If you guys want to hear

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Speaker 1: what his answer would be. He has mentioned many times.

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Speaker 1: He is also in my article. Uh, it is one

886
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Speaker 1: of the few catchup parties I like actually have there.

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Speaker 1: Give him, I'll give him a minute. See if he's waiting, Lewis.

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Speaker 2: Louis, I guess he can only hear me when I'm talking.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll relay the relay the question that see

890
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Speaker 1: if we can get anything from.

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Speaker 2: M I think we should just move on to the questions.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, now we got them. I'll I can go really.

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Speaker 6: Quickly on this, just to I guess. I don't want

894
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Speaker 6: to speak for Lewis, of course, but you know, I

895
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Speaker 6: could just just give some insight. I mean, local guy

896
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Speaker 6: is from Miami, which is cool. Yeah, he's definitely better

897
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Speaker 6: than the catchers that the Marlins currently have. But that's

898
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Speaker 6: not hard to be I guess I would say, unfortunately so,

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Speaker 6: but yeah, it's a guy who's what his contract expires

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Speaker 6: at the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: I think this would be true Rensel.

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Speaker 6: You know, maybe he comes back if the Marlins don't

903
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Speaker 6: think they have anything else catcher wise in the system.

904
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Speaker 1: But I think they think that they do, and I

905
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Speaker 1: think they do as well. So yeah, it would definitely

906
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Speaker 1: be an upgrade of what they have right now with

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Speaker 1: Stellings and four Test.

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Speaker 6: But it's also a guy who's only plaid fifty seven

909
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Speaker 6: games this year, so you worry about durability. It's also

910
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Speaker 6: thirty five years old, so I worry about durability there

911
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Speaker 6: as well.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if I would be too.

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Speaker 6: Too persistent to give up what the Cubs would probably

914
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Speaker 6: ask for for a player like this, But it's not impossible.

915
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 6: So yeah, he definitely be an upgrade one, even though

916
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Speaker 6: he's only played so a sparingly this year.

917
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I would to be against it depending on

918
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Speaker 1: what they gave up. All Right, Well, I guess that'll

919
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Speaker 1: cap it for us. Unless we have any file party dots.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the main event. We will get to

921
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Speaker 1: fan questions. But Lewis he's here. Yes, I'm here. I

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Speaker 1: can hear you. Okay, very very briefly, give your top

923
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Speaker 1: realistic trade target. This deadline realistic.

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Speaker 6: I think if you, depending on what you want to,

925
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Speaker 6: you're willing to give up Bellinger or Rental isn't a

926
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Speaker 6: bad idea.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys have already talked enough about him.

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Speaker 1: The only concern I have beyond him not re signing.

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Speaker 6: Which I don't think he will, you know, agree to

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Speaker 6: a mutual option that the Cubs haven't placed with him

931
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Speaker 6: if he were to come to Miami, because he's obviously

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Speaker 6: gonna he's looking at.

933
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Speaker 1: Like a deal better than like coach Forber's in the

934
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Speaker 1: free agent market.

935
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Speaker 6: Is the struggles that and I'm surprised you guys can't

936
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Speaker 6: touch on it. He went through a period of about

937
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Speaker 6: two years where he just didn't hit, and like, you know,

938
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Speaker 6: imagine you give up you know, say a B plus

939
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Speaker 6: minus to eight minus pitching prospect and Bellinger struggles.

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Speaker 1: That's a problem. You know.

941
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Speaker 6: I like some of the relievers, but other than Carlos Estevez,

942
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Speaker 6: there's nobody else off the top of my head that

943
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Speaker 6: really sticks out. It's a weird year because there's teams

944
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Speaker 6: that are bad, but a lot of those bad teams

945
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Speaker 6: also just don't have enough of uber enticing players for

946
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Speaker 6: me to say, I want this guy on my team

947
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Speaker 6: and he's really gonna help me in a playoff March

948
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Speaker 6: or even in the playoffs kind of thing. It's just

949
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Speaker 6: it's a weird year with the new playoff format, you know,

950
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Speaker 6: there's all these new rules. In general, I think I've

951
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Speaker 6: definitely altered the landscape of what the playoffs are going

952
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Speaker 6: to look like more than just regular season games in general.

953
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Speaker 1: Now, I think you get the point home there with

954
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Speaker 1: the latter it's deadline. I mean, it's so tough to

955
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Speaker 1: you who's going to sell. I still think there's probably

956
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Speaker 1: gonna be between somewhere roughly between six to ten teams

957
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Speaker 1: to sell off this deadline. But we're still weeks away

958
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Speaker 1: from the deadliner. Two weeks about But yeah, now, good

959
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: points Sarah on Belly, I'm definitely high on him. But

960
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: yet again, this final couple of years in LA weren't pretty.

961
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1003
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Speaker 1: but we'll bring in a frequent listener Sharif and get

1004
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1006
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Speaker 1: trade deadline, even if you have a baseball question. We

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1009
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Speaker 1: So Sharif, how are you and what is your question doing?

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Speaker 9: Okay, thank you, appreciate the invite and once again continued

1011
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 9: great job by you guys covering the team.

1012
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 1: And all aspects. So I had a question in terms

1013
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: of the cost of.

1014
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 9: Cooper, because I think we had Cooper here for three

1015
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 9: three seasons or more now, and it seems like a

1016
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 9: Whus is the more athletic.

1017
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: One we can be more patient with.

1018
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 9: And I'm breaking this down because I'm saying who's best

1019
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 9: to trade?

1020
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: So if I'm gonna trade anyone, I'm.

1021
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 9: Probably gonna trade Coop because I've seen three years of

1022
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 9: Coop Coop. I think Cooper was an alternate All Star

1023
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 9: right a year ago, and so.

1024
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: His value may be at as high as now.

1025
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 9: And we can still give a Sus another year maybe

1026
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 9: to show that he can be the left hand, but

1027
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 9: that we want other than that, we can work with

1028
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 9: de la Cruz for another year. I think he's coming around.

1029
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 9: And for me, who who I want?

1030
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: I want to solve the pitching and the hitting one time.

1031
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 9: Keep in mind, guys, we had one of the best

1032
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 9: hitters Eachi road play for us.

1033
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 1: And I know Kim Aang isn't Japanese.

1034
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 9: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she can

1035
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 9: get a conversation with show hate and I mean to

1036
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 9: get him to sign, and with that, I think you

1037
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 9: would have a lot of fun based in Japan. You'd

1038
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Speaker 9: have a lot of fun based a lot more come

1039
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 9: down to the games, and I.

1040
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: Think that would save one of our starting vishers. Now,

1041
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: who would they want.

1042
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 9: I'm definitely putting Cooper in that deal, and I'm just

1043
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 9: probably gonna ask you guys, like you know, if you're

1044
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 9: going to sacrifice Yuri.

1045
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: I had Emitt Olsen in there. I also had.

1046
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Speaker 9: Quato and Cooper to make up some of the money

1047
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 9: that he's probably going to be old this year. And

1048
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 9: then of course if Kim Haang is going to sign him,

1049
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 9: then we can worry about saying with Lewis Ares and

1050
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 9: signing him next year.

1051
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Speaker 1: What do you what are you guys thoughts on that? Well,

1052
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: I'll start with this. So you can't trade any of

1053
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: the draft picks right now. It would have to be

1054
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: until after the World Series, So right there, the trade

1055
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: can't happen on your end.

1056
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Speaker 3: And I don't think Miami will go after show him.

1057
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Speaker 1: It's impossible.

1058
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 3: You could look at the Dodgers and they have multiple

1059
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 3: top one hundred projects which they could easily offer. There

1060
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: are teams that have so much more than Miami that

1061
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 3: they could offer in Although the farm system is going

1062
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 3: to get depleted in some ways. It's still a strong

1063
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Speaker 3: farm system for other teams despite trading a lot of guys,

1064
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Speaker 3: and I just.

1065
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Speaker 1: Don't see Mindy going for showing. I'll keep it that simple.

1066
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Speaker 1: If anyone else has a Showhy question, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Think just you ask him right, Just to be clear,

1068
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Speaker 2: this is it's understandable why you would want him for

1069
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Speaker 2: the Marlins. Every single team wants to because he's the

1070
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Speaker 2: best player in the league right now, and he is

1071
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Speaker 2: a ending free agent this offseason. He's going to command

1072
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Speaker 2: the largest contract ever, at least in terms of average

1073
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Speaker 2: annual value. I don't know how many years, but he's

1074
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Speaker 2: going to be, you know, many times beyond the Marlins

1075
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Speaker 2: price range, where they have just absolutely no chance to

1076
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Speaker 2: compete financially with those other teams. As much as they

1077
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Speaker 2: do want to maximize the rest of the season, it's

1078
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 2: just the cost of trading just prospects to get him

1079
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: for these final couple months, it's going to be I

1080
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Speaker 2: don't even think it's attainable. I just don't think he's attainable.

1081
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Speaker 2: That's why we didn't bring him up before. Unfortunately, because

1082
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 2: there's gonna be so much demand for him. You bring

1083
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: up Cooper, and he's going to be an interesting player

1084
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: to evaluate after the season. He is also a pending

1085
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: free agent as well, and he's played a lot better

1086
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 2: recently than he certainly did the first quarter of the season.

1087
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: This is a team that doesn't really have a very

1088
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: clear succession plan at first base after this season, but

1089
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: for the time being, they do have a nice thing

1090
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: going with him and Yulie, so I imagine that's going

1091
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 2: to stay the same. It wouldn't be the craziest thing

1092
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: in the world if they made some sort of deal

1093
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: and get something in return for him before he's a

1094
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: free agent. But yeah, it's really difficult to reconfigure that

1095
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: position any other way than they already have it right now.

1096
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: Those two have been pretty good pairing. It would open

1097
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: up creative options if they had a single first basement

1098
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: on the team and we're able to devote one of

1099
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: those valuable rosters about to a hitter at a different position.

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00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: It's just the way that things have gone, the fact

1101
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: that Cooper has improved, and the fact that Julie is

1102
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: held up a lot better than most were expecting. I

1103
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: think they're just going to ride it out at that

1104
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 2: position and then re evaluate in the offseason.

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00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 9: And I've seen what Sandy has been doing over the

1107
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 9: last three starts. I think his two sema has been

1108
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 9: a little harder touching one hundred and the four seamer.

1109
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: He's trying to keep it low.

1110
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 9: But when you do that, it's just a golf swing

1111
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 9: and then that becomes about in practice home run. So

1112
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 9: we've seen it once again and it's two favorite pitchers.

1113
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know.

1114
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: How much you know, how much more you're going to

1115
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: give the film to.

1116
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 9: Opposing hitters, and then you know you're still not using

1117
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 9: the curve, the sliders, not.

1118
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: Banding, so later and later in games.

1119
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 9: Guys are just gonna time that, uh as we've seen

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00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 9: and I just think that it's Yes, we love it

1121
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 9: touching one hundred on the gun because we know it

1122
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 9: goes right past the botts and it looks better, much

1123
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 9: better in the last three starts. But we've also seen

1124
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 9: you can time that up and hit that the right

1125
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 9: field or hit it over the fence.

1126
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: So Sandy needs to listen to us, so go over here.

1127
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: But thank you again, guys. I'll let someone else come in. Yes,

1128
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: thank you as always to super subscriber from the very

1129
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: generous to a loud Morrow's fan. Bring him in, I

1130
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: got bloating in right now. There we go, all right, LMAs,

1131
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: what's up? Many?

1132
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 8: All right, here's the question for the hosts.

1133
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: One word answer from each of you.

1134
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 10: So here it is okay, with the emergence of Dane Myers,

1135
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 10: which current Marlins MLB outfielder gets paired with obviously old

1136
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 10: Garcia in a minor league prospect to bring us the

1137
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 10: player needed to push us over the Mendos.

1138
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 6: Over the Mendoz the line that's a two fifteen hitter.

1139
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 6: You mean over the line to be a guaranteed playoff team?

1140
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 6: Yeah there, Yeah, well, I mean you could package a

1141
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 6: Peyton verdict. I think the organization has given him like

1142
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 6: an unfair chance.

1143
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 1: He hasn't really gotten enough extended time.

1144
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 6: I think, you know, I don't think most fans would

1145
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 6: lose enough sleep losing a guy like that. I think,

1146
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 6: you know, maybe that's a name you could part with

1147
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 6: if you want to get rid of AVI. Other than that,

1148
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 6: you know, maybe, and no one off the top of

1149
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 6: my head that overwhelms me, Mine is, uh.

1150
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: My mine would be your are still has a very good,

1151
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: very very good power.

1152
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 6: Case to him you know, and uh doesn't belong in

1153
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 6: Triple A much longer, so I would think you are

1154
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 6: in cronossion.

1155
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say anybody from the big league team that

1156
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 1: would be you.

1157
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 6: Know, anybody would be interested in You're not gonna trade

1158
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 6: like Cruz. I don't think they're gonna trade his Sanchez

1159
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 6: just yet, because he's continuing to show that he can

1160
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 6: have spurts of pretty good hit, pretty good uh, pretty

1161
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,240
Speaker 6: good play overall. So I don't think they're gonna trade

1162
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 6: big league teams. So yeah, I would agree with with Lewis.

1163
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 6: It would either be Burdick or in Carnassion would be

1164
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 6: the two guys that I would point you that teams

1165
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 6: would be interested in my opinion, perfect anyone else.

1166
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: I'm on the same page. In terms of Verdick, I

1167
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 2: think if they they're at a point where he might

1168
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 2: not have any value whatsoever by the end of the season.

1169
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 2: He's already twenty six years old. And the reason why

1170
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 2: he hasn't even come up again despite the injuries to

1171
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: Davis and the Jazz, is because he continues to just

1172
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: strike out so much against Triple A pitching that it's

1173
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 2: just really hard to trust it to work at the

1174
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 2: big league level, even over a small sample with him,

1175
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: So he was for a period of time he was

1176
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: one of their more highly regarded hitting prospects. But this

1177
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 2: has been a really disappointing year for him, and he, yeah,

1178
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: he is kind of stuck at the moment. So he'd

1179
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: be somebody that I can see them shedding from the

1180
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 2: forty man roster if they can get anything in return

1181
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 2: on a different side. But you know, I fear that

1182
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: his value has already gone down quite a bit this

1183
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 2: year unfortunately.

1184
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1185
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 6: I mean, he had that foot injury in spring training,

1186
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 6: was like a toe injury or something. You guys would

1187
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 6: know better than the eyes like, and Kevin probably know better.

1188
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 6: But I know he had a foot injury in spring

1189
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 6: training which cost.

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00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: Him some time.

1191
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 6: But he's pretty much been healthy since then, just hasn't

1192
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 6: diminished the strike out raid and you know he still

1193
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 6: has the power of course, and this very very physical guy.

1194
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: What I will also say.

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00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 6: Is they said no to trading for Wilson Contraras because

1196
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 6: of Peyton Burdick.

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00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: So maybe he.

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00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 6: Saw some kind of kind of tradestock to him that

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00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 6: was like two years ago, But he saw some kind

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00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 6: of tradestock to him that he could get some value

1201
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 6: out of and they just drafted a guy who reminds

1202
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 6: me a lot of Peyton Burdick, who was slightly bigger

1203
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 6: than Peyton Burdick in the build, but reminds me a

1204
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 6: lot of him in terms of how he handles himself

1205
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 6: offensively and on defense as well, and can apparently pick catcher,

1206
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 6: and that's Cam Alderman. So I would say burdick is

1207
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 6: is definitely expendable at this point, which sucks to say

1208
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 6: because I really like that guy and still do like

1209
00:57:59,160 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 6: that guy.

1210
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: So him and karnacionnor the two guys.

1211
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 6: That you would look at LMS for the for those

1212
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 6: kind of guys.

1213
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: Perfect.

1214
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 11: Thank you guys, and there's always anyone listening to go

1215
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 11: become a super subscriber, have a good night, hey man

1216
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 11: to the math.

1217
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. It's unfortunate what has happened there

1218
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: with verdict, we will get a rise and enjoyer in here.

1219
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: He's been requested for a minute. We'll bring him in.

1220
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: No more super subscribers. For question, if any of you

1221
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: guys are out there, no Romeo to Night, which is weird,

1222
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: no Ryme either, and all right, arise and enjoy or

1223
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: how are you tonight? What's your question? I'm good? How

1224
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: are you guys?

1225
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 12: So, I don't think anyone talked about this cultal tree target.

1226
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 12: I was looking at Kansas City's reliever, Scott Barlow.

1227
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: So I don't know if anyone wants to chime in

1228
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: and talk.

1229
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 12: About Scott Barlow, but I was thinking give it a shot. Right,

1230
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 12: I've gotten my article. I'll let someone else talk about him.

1231
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 12: But I do have him as a realistic option for sure.

1232
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. He is absolutely on my radar as well.

1233
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: This year a little not quite as effective as he

1234
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: was the previous two years. The underlying stuff still looks

1235
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: pretty good. He still gets a lot of strikeouts. He

1236
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 2: still is especially good against right handed batters in particular.

1237
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: I think he easily makes a bullpen better. He's also

1238
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: controllable beyond this year, the question being whether the Marlins

1239
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: are comfortable with the salary portion of it. I think

1240
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: he's running five point three million this year, and now

1241
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: that he's closing games, he's continuing to close games with

1242
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: the Royals, that price is going to go up even

1243
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: more so next year, in his last year control, he's

1244
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: going to be like an eight million dollar guy at

1245
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 2: the very least if he stays healthy down the stretch.

1246
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,479
Speaker 2: The arbitration, this is a team that just doesn't pay

1247
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 2: that much for relievers. When Matt Barnes, let's do that

1248
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: salary this year, they made the Red Sox cover a

1249
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: lot of his cost for this season. And outside of that,

1250
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 2: there's not been a single reliever outside of the you know,

1251
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: the the end of weigh in chen, if you want

1252
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: to count that. They they simply don't pay individual relievers

1253
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: that kind of money. So I'll be curious to see

1254
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: exactly how that influences his trade value. But all things considered,

1255
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: I think he is somebody that would be attainable without

1256
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 2: giving up any if you're truly top to your prospects,

1257
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: but it still costs a significant amount. This is a

1258
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: guy with a pretty decent track record that is still

1259
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: seemingly right around the prime of his career. So I

1260
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 2: think there's gonna be a lot of interest in him.

1261
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: It's going to be competitive, but yeah, I think you

1262
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: could be. That's a fit that seems plausible, and I

1263
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 2: think I'd be pretty excited for it.

1264
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: Any other questions, sir, It's a very good option, very

1265
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: very distracted to the thought of Scott Marlowe and the

1266
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: Marles pets. It's a great option now I know that.

1267
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: Other questions. Thank you guys for having me up. Yeah, absolutely, man,

1268
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: anytime any spaces. We do this every week for Brian

1269
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: is requested, start to speak more frequently, and these will

1270
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: bring him in. Anyone else who wants to request. We're

1271
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: starting to run a little low on request here. Anyone

1272
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: who wants to we will let them in. Any questions

1273
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: but tomorrows as long as you appear to be a

1274
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: Marles fan. We've had some problem back in the past.

1275
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: But Brian, how are we doing tonight? And what's your question?

1276
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 11: Hey guys doing good? Thanks again for having me on. Honestly,

1277
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 11: I think there's really time to start considering going to

1278
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 11: the Catter position. I think it's time for us to

1279
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 11: start considering seriously on Austin Allen, the guy has nineteen

1280
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 11: home runs. Nick Fortes honestly has been a huge disappointment.

1281
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 11: Do you guys, you know, have any thoughts on that?

1282
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 11: It just stuffing you guys would consider what are your

1283
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 11: thoughts on it?

1284
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: This is a car for I was waiting for him.

1285
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 6: I was gonna like Kevin go ahead on this farm.

1286
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 6: I was gonna like Kevin, go on this one. Kevin,

1287
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 6: you don't have anything on Alan. I like the I

1288
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 6: really like he's had a good year. He's relied a

1289
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 6: lot of the power. I will say, I think he's

1290
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 6: putting up the most he's not.

1291
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: He's putting on nineteen homers forty eight rbi.

1292
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 8: Uh.

1293
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: He's also striking out it at nineteen percent rate. I

1294
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: think this is like one of the lowest lower marks

1295
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: of his career, which is impressive. And he's also walking

1296
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: at a ten percent rate, which is very nice to see. So,

1297
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, despite him relying a lot on power, he's

1298
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: also walking. Aside from that, he's he's you know, he's

1299
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Speaker 1: getting on base at a decent rate once it's in

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Speaker 1: WRC plus. I definitely think they should give him a chance.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, he's hitting better than both Furtes and Stallings, so

1302
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 3: I think it's, you know, not hard to say. You know,

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Speaker 3: let's let's give Austin Allen a couple of shots back there,

1304
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 3: and if he works well with some of the guys

1305
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 3: in the rotation, why not. I really like Austin Allen.

1306
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 3: I've told the guys many times that why not give

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01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 3: him a chance? And the other one is Banfield.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna get a lot of bad flash from

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01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: that one.

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Speaker 4: But when you look at what Banfield's doing, he's probably

1311
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 4: the best defensive catching the organization, and he's putting up

1312
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 4: a very good offensive.

1313
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: Season, very consistent offensively too.

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01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 4: So you got to give one of the two a

1315
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 4: chance out and if if you're not going to go

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01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 4: out there and trade for a catcher.

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Speaker 6: So I would agree, But I have a clarifying question.

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Speaker 6: Maybe Eli can answer this, or or anybody.

1319
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: Else is in here that has knowledge of this. This

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Speaker 1: guy has major league experience.

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Speaker 6: He he he played with Oakland. I believe the field,

1322
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 6: and I don't think he has minor league options. So

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Speaker 6: if you call him up and put him on the

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01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 6: forty man roster, he would have to pass through waivers.

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Speaker 1: I believe options.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he does not have minor league ELI am I

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01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 6: right on this that he would if you call him up,

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01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 6: that you would have the DFM.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he's in that situation, wouldn't.

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Speaker 6: You guys win go up this point though, Yeah, that's

1331
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 6: a great question. I mean I and yes, honestly, a

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Speaker 6: guy's twenty nine years old?

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Speaker 10: What else?

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01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 6: What else does he have to do in minor league

1335
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 6: baseball when he's hitting nineteen home runs in one half.

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Speaker 1: So you're right, it's a big dude, a really big dude.

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Speaker 6: From what I hear from minor league players, they really

1338
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 6: like throwing him because it's such.

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01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: A large target. So why why not take the chance.

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Speaker 6: And then if if he fails, it's a twenty nine

1341
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 6: year old player, he probably would pass through waivers. Probably

1342
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 6: there's I mean, if they don't get a catcher at

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01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 6: the deadline, like we were just talking about Brian, it's

1344
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 6: definitely a guy that I could see coming up and

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01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 6: even if they do get a catcher, it's definitely a

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01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 6: guy I can see coming up and contributing in some way,

1347
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 6: you know, catcher, DH, whatever it is. This guy's hitting

1348
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 6: to all fields, he's going OPO. He's a big, strong dude. Yeah,

1349
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Speaker 6: I agree, man, this was a guy I definitely want

1350
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 6: to see get a chance.

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01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: And if you have the DFM, you have to dfam

1352
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: And it is what it is.

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Speaker 6: They got the guy for not much, I think as

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01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 6: a as a free agent, So.

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01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got him on a minor league deal, So

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Speaker 1: as a.

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Speaker 6: Free agent, so why not, like there's not a lot invested,

1358
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 6: he's performing, He's twenty nine, call him up.

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Speaker 1: I one hundred percent.

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Speaker 6: Agree that this the guy that that could have a

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01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 6: path to to the Marlins, not as major like the idea,

1362
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 6: but to his Marlins debut here in.

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01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: The second half, I hear you appreciate it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, And one last thing I was gonna say, you know,

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Speaker 11: because obviously the catcher market, like you guys.

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Speaker 1: Discussed, are doing the space, it's not really good.

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Speaker 11: So that's what I think when it comes to catcher,

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01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 11: I don't think anyone is worth trading for. And then

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01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 11: I mean, obviously starting pitching is something we need to

1370
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 11: go outside the organization with. I mean, just you know,

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01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 11: Devin Smelter, I don't think we could ever rely on

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01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 11: him again. Dan Costanald, it looks like they're taking it

1373
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 11: pretty easy on him. I think on Friday when you

1374
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 11: pitched like one INNI so I could see maybe Dan Castanald,

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01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 11: I don't know how much more faith they're putting on him.

1376
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: And then another guy.

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Speaker 11: We've seen in the past that I can never see

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01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 11: him coming back in this year is like chi Chi Gonzales,

1379
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 11: So like starting pitching is really really thing, So definitely, uh,

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01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 11: you know, someone outside of the Martins definitely.

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Speaker 1: Have to come in. That's all I got. I appreciate you'll, yeah, absolutely,

1382
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: thank you for coming in and asking a question. We

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01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: will go Alice Concrarez Now I guess we'll go kind

1384
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: of final call here. Any other people out there with

1385
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: a question, go ahead and requests or out of requests

1386
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, the shorter space I plan for next week.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll be along with Craig. I've got Alex

1388
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: loading in right now. Again, any final people who want

1389
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: to come speak, go ahead and do it. So yeah,

1390
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: next week's space probably be the same time, seven o'clock start.

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01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: We will we're expecting to have Greig mission with us,

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01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: and probably won't do that much of a recap. I

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01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: would imagine. I feel like everyone's gonna be here to

1394
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: do one thing, one thing only, and that will be uh.

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Speaker 1: We asked about what the deadline could look like, and

1396
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: a lot could happen between now and next week. Well

1397
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: week at baseball left, someone has a bad week, things

1398
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: could get dicey. It looks like Alex couldn't load in

1399
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: any other final starts from you guys, I'll try. I'll

1400
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: send out some more invite if he wants to come in.

1401
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: If you can't, then well I just want to hear.

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01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 2: That question from Brian really did make me think over

1403
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 2: what to do on the catching front, because this is

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01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: the window is really tiny in terms of trying to

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01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 2: figure out what you have in Austin Allen and also

1406
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: still leaving open the possibility of making a trade for

1407
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 2: a catcher if the opportunity presents itself that you're comfortable with,

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01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: the way that it would work is you bring up Alan.

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01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: Just to be clear, they're not cutting stallings at this

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01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 2: point right now, this is all on Fortes. If they

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01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 2: brought up Alan, they would be sending down Fortes. And

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01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 2: it's not the craziest idea, you know, if there is

1413
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 2: something he could work on at in a triple A

1414
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: setting for a short period of time that maybe gets

1415
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 2: him right at the plate, this is not the strangest

1416
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 2: thing to do, just because yeah, we're now kind of

1417
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: in this pretty big example of him just being an

1418
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 2: awful hitter, as surprising as that is, and he had

1419
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 2: a really frustrating game, especially was it might've been last night,

1420
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 2: the one where even hit a couple grounders that he

1421
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 2: was so close to beating out, and Gunner Henderson made

1422
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 2: a couple of great defensive plays to get him both times,

1423
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 2: where even if his legs aren't getting him any hits,

1424
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 2: that's when he's just a really limited player overall on

1425
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 2: that side of the ball. So it's not the wildest thing.

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01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 2: There's really nothing more that Austin Allen can do to

1427
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 2: try to earn himself another opportunity. He has failed in

1428
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 2: the big leagues before, so I understand the pessimism around it,

1429
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 2: and that's kind of what has colored my thinking on him,

1430
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 2: is that he's a quad A type that's probably not

1431
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 2: going to succeed, But he has performed, I think, better

1432
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 2: than what anybody could have reasonably hoped for At Triple A.

1433
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 2: He's been a really good player down there on both

1434
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 2: sides of the ball, and in the way that Fortes

1435
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: has played being kind of more disappointing than anybody reasonably

1436
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,799
Speaker 2: feared that he would be. This is really the window

1437
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 2: that they would do it if they were going to

1438
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 2: do it, and I don't think they are. I think

1439
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 2: ultimately they still put so much stock in the way

1440
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 2: that Fortes has handled the pitchers that he's worked it

1441
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 2: with the way that he has handled Lozardo and Braxton,

1442
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 2: Garrett and both of those guys working exclusively with them

1443
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 2: this season, and they don't want to jeopardize that this

1444
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 2: season would be in a much different place if Lozardo

1445
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 2: and Braxton weren't having the seasons that they're having. So

1446
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:40,759
Speaker 2: much of that is with Fortes working with them closely.

1447
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 2: So I think it's super unlikely to happen, which is

1448
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: why I really haven't spent much time thinking about it.

1449
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:50,520
Speaker 2: But it's really not the wildest idea, just fortunate. Unfortunately

1450
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 2: Fortest has even made it a thought in my mind,

1451
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 2: just because of how little he has offered offensively.

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01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, funny you mention it. I mean the things that

1453
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 6: Alan had in my view watching him play. The things

1454
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 6: that Alan can provide a bit better is receivability.

1455
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 1: That's that's one of his things is.

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01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 6: Receivability that he could provide a little bit better to

1457
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 6: the Jacksonville staff. But then again, they've also dealt with

1458
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 6: some no offense to these guys.

1459
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: Of course, they've also dealt with some lower tier pitching.

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01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 6: So I think if you've got Alan with some some

1461
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 6: higher quality pitchers like major league pitching and guys are

1462
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 6: on the major league staff.

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01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: Of course, it's probably not gonna be Sandy because Stallings

1464
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 1: with him.

1465
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 4: But if you've got if you got Alan with with with.

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01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 6: Higher quality pitching, and he's got some some decent rehab

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01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 6: starts as.

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Speaker 1: Well, that is what I will say for him.

1469
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 6: But yeah, if you got him with some higher quality pitching,

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01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 6: I think you re see the receivability kind of come up, obviously,

1471
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,839
Speaker 6: just because of the kind of guys that he's handling.

1472
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 6: But yeah, no, that this guy offensively like there's a

1473
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 6: there's a clear I think there's there is a clear

1474
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 6: improvement to make offensively because of how bad both Fortes

1475
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 6: and Stallings have been, which is unfortunate to say, because

1476
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 6: Fortes is a guy who did not hit before double

1477
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 6: A and then he got the double A and things

1478
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 6: kind of took off for him.

1479
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: But now he's kind of falling back to what his

1480
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: floor was.

1481
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 10: Uh.

1482
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 6: And this is as a major league player. So I

1483
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 6: think Allen would be fine as a receiver. But how

1484
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 6: willing are the Marlins to move off of Fortest because

1485
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 6: of what Eli said, how much he's already shown so

1486
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 6: far as a receiver, and I think there would be

1487
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 6: a little bit of a downfall to Alan from Fortes

1488
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 6: in terms of receiving. I think offense would come up

1489
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 6: unless he is completely a quad a player that Heli said.

1490
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 6: But uh yeah, it's how much of a risk of

1491
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 6: they willing to take to get Fortes the time he

1492
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 6: may need in the minors and then go to Alan

1493
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 6: who is not a sure thing. So uh yeah, there's

1494
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 6: there's a little bit of uncertainty in that situation and

1495
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 6: that equation.

1496
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: But it's a fun it's a it's a fun topic to.

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01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 13: Discuss, A good interesting note and off on any file

1498
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:02,799
Speaker 13: thought for we the part from anyone else, Kevin got.

1499
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: Anything, No, just stay tuned. Should be a fun week

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01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: ahead and very telling.

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01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 2: Yep, another live stream tomorrow. It's a weird start time

1502
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 2: six thirty for our stream because the game is at

1503
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 2: seven forty five in Saint Louis. Tune into that. You

1504
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 2: can watch it on Twitter or YouTube or Twitch that

1505
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 2: we're doing there. And yeah, outside from that things though,

1506
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 2: I'm just chugging along here. We appreciate everybody's support of

1507
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 2: what we do. You're adficial.

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01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:34,520
Speaker 1: First that being said, you guys enjoy your week, Cardinals

1509
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 1: and Rockies. This week opportunity for another winning week for

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Speaker 1: the Borrows. Next the week seven o'clock we will have

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Speaker 1: Craig miss year we expect. The talks are trade deadline,

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Speaker 1: so stay tuned and enjoy your night everyone,