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He's 19 00:01:11,177 --> 00:01:15,017 Speaker 1: an author a podcaster. His latest book is The Mysterious 20 00:01:15,057 --> 00:01:19,257 Speaker 1: Case of Rudolph Diesel, Genius, Power and the Deception on 21 00:01:19,337 --> 00:01:20,937 Speaker 1: the eve of World War One. He's also got a 22 00:01:20,937 --> 00:01:26,297 Speaker 1: podcast dedicated what's the podcast about? Sounds cool? 23 00:01:26,657 --> 00:01:29,617 Speaker 2: Well, the podcast it actually stemmed from a book club 24 00:01:29,697 --> 00:01:30,977 Speaker 2: I used to be in with a bunch of other 25 00:01:30,977 --> 00:01:33,817 Speaker 2: writers like Lee Child and Nelson de Mill and Harlan 26 00:01:33,857 --> 00:01:36,017 Speaker 2: Covid and Aymore. Told me to get together once a 27 00:01:36,057 --> 00:01:38,537 Speaker 2: month and talk about books and have drinks. And I 28 00:01:38,577 --> 00:01:40,497 Speaker 2: was talking to some friends at Sirius XM and they're like, 29 00:01:40,697 --> 00:01:42,497 Speaker 2: this should be a show, but you should have these 30 00:01:42,497 --> 00:01:42,897 Speaker 2: guys on. 31 00:01:42,977 --> 00:01:43,977 Speaker 3: So that's really what happens. 32 00:01:44,017 --> 00:01:46,937 Speaker 2: I start every episode with a guest favorite cocktail, fix 33 00:01:47,017 --> 00:01:49,297 Speaker 2: the drink on set, and then we just talk about 34 00:01:49,337 --> 00:01:51,697 Speaker 2: books and the writing lifestyle and stuff like that. It's 35 00:01:51,697 --> 00:01:53,057 Speaker 2: a lot of fun. If there are writers out there 36 00:01:53,057 --> 00:01:54,577 Speaker 2: you want to get to know a little bit more about, 37 00:01:54,697 --> 00:01:56,137 Speaker 2: it's a good way to go. 38 00:01:56,137 --> 00:01:59,777 Speaker 1: And it's funny. I was actually at a satyr recently 39 00:01:59,857 --> 00:02:03,537 Speaker 1: with my neighbors and someone asked me, you know, how 40 00:02:03,577 --> 00:02:05,977 Speaker 1: did you get into the CIA, And I started telling 41 00:02:06,057 --> 00:02:08,457 Speaker 1: them because it was completely my own. I have no 42 00:02:09,257 --> 00:02:13,337 Speaker 1: parents or you know, family ties to military, government services 43 00:02:13,337 --> 00:02:17,137 Speaker 1: anything like that. At all, and I said, honestly, probably 44 00:02:17,217 --> 00:02:20,217 Speaker 1: Tom Clancy novels. And they're like, wait really, And then 45 00:02:20,337 --> 00:02:22,417 Speaker 1: one of the there was a young man who's like 46 00:02:22,457 --> 00:02:24,017 Speaker 1: the neighbors who are friends with the neighbors of the 47 00:02:24,017 --> 00:02:27,257 Speaker 1: neighbor's kid, who's he's maybe thirteen or fourteen. I was like, 48 00:02:27,297 --> 00:02:28,737 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get you. He's like really, and 49 00:02:28,737 --> 00:02:30,857 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'll give you a Tom Clancy novel, 50 00:02:31,257 --> 00:02:32,937 Speaker 1: you know, and you could see like it just it 51 00:02:33,097 --> 00:02:35,537 Speaker 1: just opened this whole world to me. And then after 52 00:02:35,657 --> 00:02:37,017 Speaker 1: nine to eleven, I'm like, what am I gonna do? 53 00:02:37,097 --> 00:02:38,657 Speaker 1: I was like, I think I'm gonna do Jack Ryan 54 00:02:38,657 --> 00:02:40,817 Speaker 1: stuff joined the CIA, and sure enough, that's what I 55 00:02:40,857 --> 00:02:41,417 Speaker 1: nd up happening. 56 00:02:41,617 --> 00:02:43,577 Speaker 3: So authors books are amazing. 57 00:02:43,857 --> 00:02:45,897 Speaker 2: One of the few first editions that I have is 58 00:02:46,257 --> 00:02:48,097 Speaker 2: Hunt for Red October, which is by some it was 59 00:02:48,137 --> 00:02:51,057 Speaker 2: the Naval Press, you know, some small press like. 60 00:02:51,097 --> 00:02:53,177 Speaker 1: That is just a great book, and credit is I 61 00:02:53,297 --> 00:02:55,097 Speaker 1: have a copy of it that I've inscribed to my 62 00:02:55,177 --> 00:02:57,217 Speaker 1: neighbor downstairs right now that I'm gonna be giving him 63 00:02:57,257 --> 00:02:59,217 Speaker 1: in about a week, because that was that was sort 64 00:02:59,257 --> 00:03:00,937 Speaker 1: of my original entrain to Jack Ryan. And then I 65 00:03:00,937 --> 00:03:05,577 Speaker 1: remember I read without Remorse and Dead of Honor and 66 00:03:05,657 --> 00:03:06,937 Speaker 1: some of all fear. I mean, you know, all the 67 00:03:07,377 --> 00:03:09,457 Speaker 1: basically all the ones that have since been made into movies. 68 00:03:09,457 --> 00:03:11,377 Speaker 1: But I was reading these as a kid, and the 69 00:03:11,457 --> 00:03:16,257 Speaker 1: two authors that really I think, I think I have 70 00:03:16,297 --> 00:03:17,737 Speaker 1: to say change my life. And I think I joined 71 00:03:17,777 --> 00:03:21,657 Speaker 1: the CIA because of Tom Clancy. You know, I was 72 00:03:21,697 --> 00:03:23,257 Speaker 1: a fifth grader I'm reading these books, or you know, 73 00:03:23,337 --> 00:03:26,017 Speaker 1: sixth grader or whatever it was. And the other one 74 00:03:26,057 --> 00:03:29,457 Speaker 1: would be actually Michael Crichton. I'm kind of a Michael 75 00:03:29,497 --> 00:03:31,337 Speaker 1: Crichton super fan. I know, everyone just knows him for 76 00:03:31,457 --> 00:03:34,537 Speaker 1: Jurassic Park. Are you a big Michael Crichton guy too? Yeah, 77 00:03:34,617 --> 00:03:36,657 Speaker 1: I mean I think he was married seven times, which 78 00:03:36,977 --> 00:03:38,817 Speaker 1: was a little a little sketch, but you know, no 79 00:03:38,857 --> 00:03:39,457 Speaker 1: one's perfect. 80 00:03:40,297 --> 00:03:42,857 Speaker 2: I admire his whole career because he did so many 81 00:03:42,897 --> 00:03:44,737 Speaker 2: different things. Whatever he wanted to do he did. He 82 00:03:44,777 --> 00:03:46,937 Speaker 2: wrote fiction and non fiction for TV, and he was 83 00:03:47,017 --> 00:03:48,137 Speaker 2: always in the zeitgeist. 84 00:03:48,177 --> 00:03:48,257 Speaker 4: You know. 85 00:03:48,337 --> 00:03:51,657 Speaker 2: Even Jurassic Park is largely about chaos theory, which was 86 00:03:51,817 --> 00:03:53,977 Speaker 2: very much in the zeitgeist at that time, but in 87 00:03:54,137 --> 00:03:57,817 Speaker 2: Japan taking over the world economically with Rising Sun, and 88 00:03:57,897 --> 00:04:00,817 Speaker 2: even disclosure was about workplace harassment long before people were 89 00:04:00,897 --> 00:04:02,057 Speaker 2: really talking about that. 90 00:04:02,777 --> 00:04:05,937 Speaker 1: I love State of Fear, which is him taking the 91 00:04:05,977 --> 00:04:09,377 Speaker 1: whole climate change catastrophism to task. I thought it was 92 00:04:09,417 --> 00:04:13,057 Speaker 1: really interesting. I remember some early We're gonna get to 93 00:04:13,097 --> 00:04:14,977 Speaker 1: news of the day in a moment. Everybody, just hang on, 94 00:04:15,137 --> 00:04:17,617 Speaker 1: hang on, we're doing our own version of his dedicated 95 00:04:17,697 --> 00:04:20,297 Speaker 1: podcast now. But I remember I used to go back 96 00:04:20,337 --> 00:04:22,697 Speaker 1: and watch some of these interviews with with Crichton, and 97 00:04:22,777 --> 00:04:26,937 Speaker 1: I thought he was such an interesting guy on many levels. 98 00:04:27,057 --> 00:04:31,257 Speaker 1: Harvard trained MD, and I think he's the only person 99 00:04:31,337 --> 00:04:34,417 Speaker 1: that I've ever heard of who was the creator author 100 00:04:34,577 --> 00:04:37,337 Speaker 1: of the number one book, the number one movie, and 101 00:04:37,377 --> 00:04:39,737 Speaker 1: the number one TV show in America all at the 102 00:04:39,777 --> 00:04:45,457 Speaker 1: same time. The show Jurassic Park, the book Jurassic Park, 103 00:04:45,497 --> 00:04:47,737 Speaker 1: the movie, best selling book at the time best obviously 104 00:04:47,777 --> 00:04:50,297 Speaker 1: the biggest movie in the country at the time, was 105 00:04:50,337 --> 00:04:53,057 Speaker 1: a huge box office smash, and then er was the 106 00:04:53,097 --> 00:04:55,217 Speaker 1: most popular TV show I think in the same year. 107 00:04:56,297 --> 00:04:58,177 Speaker 1: So it was pretty reminded too young. 108 00:04:58,337 --> 00:04:59,897 Speaker 3: Who knows what he would have been doing by now. 109 00:05:00,177 --> 00:05:02,537 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's a shame he got you know, 110 00:05:02,617 --> 00:05:05,097 Speaker 1: he got nailed by by cancer. But I I just 111 00:05:05,177 --> 00:05:07,017 Speaker 1: remember him in I think it was a Charlie Rose 112 00:05:07,057 --> 00:05:09,897 Speaker 1: interview which you can probably still see on YouTube, and 113 00:05:10,057 --> 00:05:12,337 Speaker 1: and he, Charlie Rose, is looking at them and you 114 00:05:12,377 --> 00:05:15,937 Speaker 1: can tell Mike he was such a big name and 115 00:05:16,857 --> 00:05:19,217 Speaker 1: clearly a very very smart guy, very very successful guy. 116 00:05:19,257 --> 00:05:23,337 Speaker 1: And Charlie Rose when Michael Crichton says global warming, climate change, 117 00:05:23,377 --> 00:05:24,937 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, it's happening. It's not 118 00:05:25,017 --> 00:05:27,017 Speaker 1: a big deal, it doesn't really matter. Everyone needs to 119 00:05:27,057 --> 00:05:30,377 Speaker 1: calm down. I mean, that's a truncated version. Charlie Rose 120 00:05:30,617 --> 00:05:32,977 Speaker 1: was like having a fit. He just couldn't and this 121 00:05:33,177 --> 00:05:36,577 Speaker 1: is this is twenty years ago. He's just like, but what, 122 00:05:36,777 --> 00:05:38,777 Speaker 1: he goes, I read the data, I know the data. 123 00:05:38,817 --> 00:05:40,497 Speaker 1: All these scientists who are telling you about the data, 124 00:05:40,697 --> 00:05:42,657 Speaker 1: they actually all their models are crap. Like he just 125 00:05:42,697 --> 00:05:44,617 Speaker 1: gets into it a little bit, and he tries to 126 00:05:44,697 --> 00:05:47,017 Speaker 1: be very He's even like I like al Gore, which 127 00:05:47,057 --> 00:05:49,177 Speaker 1: you know, dubious, but he's like, I like al Gore, 128 00:05:49,217 --> 00:05:51,897 Speaker 1: He's wrong about everything. And I'm just like, more people 129 00:05:51,977 --> 00:05:52,897 Speaker 1: need to see this interview. 130 00:05:52,937 --> 00:05:55,017 Speaker 3: But anyway, I'm going to go find that on YouTube 131 00:05:55,017 --> 00:05:55,297 Speaker 3: after this. 132 00:05:55,537 --> 00:05:58,537 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's it's solid, it's solid. He really 133 00:05:58,617 --> 00:06:00,097 Speaker 1: makes his way through it. But anyway, those two authors 134 00:06:00,217 --> 00:06:03,697 Speaker 1: changed my life. And you know, I wanted to ask you, Uh, 135 00:06:03,897 --> 00:06:06,017 Speaker 1: maybe I'll ask you a little bit more about your book, 136 00:06:06,097 --> 00:06:08,657 Speaker 1: The Case of a Mysterious Case of Rudolph Diesel, just 137 00:06:08,737 --> 00:06:12,857 Speaker 1: because I'm in the process of writing a nonfiction book 138 00:06:12,937 --> 00:06:15,097 Speaker 1: right now, and I'm actually in the edit stage right 139 00:06:15,137 --> 00:06:18,017 Speaker 1: so I've already handed in my draft and I'll take 140 00:06:18,057 --> 00:06:20,777 Speaker 1: any any wisdom. Yeah, I'm getting notes about I'll take 141 00:06:20,777 --> 00:06:23,017 Speaker 1: any wisdom or advice about about getting through the process. 142 00:06:23,057 --> 00:06:28,377 Speaker 1: But first up where we're Oh, yes, so Megan Kelly. 143 00:06:28,457 --> 00:06:33,537 Speaker 1: She's a fabulous radio host and podcaster and also happens 144 00:06:33,577 --> 00:06:36,777 Speaker 1: to be your wife, and she is all over the 145 00:06:37,097 --> 00:06:41,177 Speaker 1: intrawebs right now with the clips of her and Bill 146 00:06:41,297 --> 00:06:44,177 Speaker 1: maher going back and forth. What do you think about 147 00:06:44,257 --> 00:06:47,897 Speaker 1: about the exchanges that they had and what were the 148 00:06:47,977 --> 00:06:50,297 Speaker 1: issues where you feel like, wow, Bill needs to brush 149 00:06:50,417 --> 00:06:50,897 Speaker 1: up a little bit. 150 00:06:51,657 --> 00:06:52,657 Speaker 3: It was amazing. 151 00:06:52,817 --> 00:06:54,977 Speaker 2: I mean, she, first of all, she can fact she 152 00:06:55,177 --> 00:06:57,537 Speaker 2: she knows her stuff, She's steeped in the news. She's 153 00:06:57,577 --> 00:07:01,217 Speaker 2: the best prepared person out there. And so they had 154 00:07:01,217 --> 00:07:05,257 Speaker 2: this interview where he started making all these factual misstatements 155 00:07:05,657 --> 00:07:07,937 Speaker 2: and she would correct him. You know the thing you 156 00:07:08,017 --> 00:07:10,897 Speaker 2: come away after watching him. She's so classy, she's so smart, 157 00:07:11,017 --> 00:07:13,857 Speaker 2: she's so prepared. She could have just clubbed him like 158 00:07:13,897 --> 00:07:16,577 Speaker 2: a harp seal, but she doesn't. She just corrects him. 159 00:07:17,417 --> 00:07:20,577 Speaker 2: But it happened again and again. You know, she was saying, well, 160 00:07:20,617 --> 00:07:23,977 Speaker 2: you know, Hillary Clinton was the first to actually deny elections, 161 00:07:24,977 --> 00:07:28,257 Speaker 2: and bel Mar's like, she was never she never denied 162 00:07:28,257 --> 00:07:31,257 Speaker 2: the election. She conceded right away as well. She conceded, 163 00:07:31,297 --> 00:07:36,057 Speaker 2: and then she went and spent four years denying the election. Yeah, validity. 164 00:07:36,457 --> 00:07:39,177 Speaker 2: And he goes, no, she didn't, and she says she did. 165 00:07:39,257 --> 00:07:41,097 Speaker 2: He goes, well, tell me exactly what she said, and 166 00:07:41,177 --> 00:07:44,377 Speaker 2: she said, she said exactly that. You know, It's just 167 00:07:44,577 --> 00:07:47,057 Speaker 2: there's this awkward pause as he realizes he actually doesn't 168 00:07:47,097 --> 00:07:49,377 Speaker 2: have the facts. And it happened again and again. 169 00:07:50,257 --> 00:07:53,297 Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton, of course, is the original election denier. I'm 170 00:07:53,337 --> 00:07:54,777 Speaker 4: sure you voted for her in sixteen. 171 00:07:54,937 --> 00:07:56,497 Speaker 5: Well, she's not an election denier. 172 00:07:56,657 --> 00:07:59,217 Speaker 4: She absolutely was the og election denier. 173 00:07:59,777 --> 00:08:03,177 Speaker 5: She first of all, she came out before the sun 174 00:08:03,377 --> 00:08:06,177 Speaker 5: had risen to concede the election to. 175 00:08:06,217 --> 00:08:08,977 Speaker 4: Trump, and then spent the next four years saying he 176 00:08:09,137 --> 00:08:11,617 Speaker 4: was illegitimate, he was an illegitimate president. 177 00:08:11,737 --> 00:08:14,897 Speaker 5: She okay, well, first of all saying she didn't say 178 00:08:14,897 --> 00:08:16,617 Speaker 5: he was an illegitimate Well, she did. You tell me 179 00:08:16,697 --> 00:08:17,617 Speaker 5: exactly what she said. 180 00:08:17,817 --> 00:08:19,617 Speaker 1: She said those exact words repeatedly. 181 00:08:21,337 --> 00:08:25,337 Speaker 5: Okay, I mean she conceded the election. Whether whether you're 182 00:08:25,417 --> 00:08:31,417 Speaker 5: interpreting her disappointment at losing it as the same thing 183 00:08:31,497 --> 00:08:34,257 Speaker 5: as Trump not conceding it, I don't know that that's 184 00:08:34,257 --> 00:08:36,737 Speaker 5: where you're getting it from. But again, it's a tremendous 185 00:08:36,817 --> 00:08:40,417 Speaker 5: false equivalency. You could ask Hillary Clinton right now who 186 00:08:40,497 --> 00:08:43,097 Speaker 5: won that election. She will tell you Donald Trump won. 187 00:08:43,217 --> 00:08:45,737 Speaker 4: Now she knows she has to because of what she 188 00:08:46,017 --> 00:08:46,537 Speaker 4: has she done. 189 00:08:46,617 --> 00:08:51,737 Speaker 5: Came out that night, she suit and conceded the election. 190 00:08:52,017 --> 00:08:54,697 Speaker 4: And then spent the next four years trying to convince 191 00:08:54,817 --> 00:08:55,977 Speaker 4: us it was not legitimate. 192 00:08:58,137 --> 00:09:00,577 Speaker 2: You know, she she's very gracious to her guests, so 193 00:09:00,657 --> 00:09:04,377 Speaker 2: she could have just gone for the juggular and but 194 00:09:04,457 --> 00:09:06,697 Speaker 2: she doesn't do that. And and you know, her audience 195 00:09:06,777 --> 00:09:09,217 Speaker 2: is smart. Your audience is smart. Everyone watching can see 196 00:09:09,257 --> 00:09:13,017 Speaker 2: this and recognize that Bill Maher has embarrassed himself, and 197 00:09:13,137 --> 00:09:14,217 Speaker 2: so she doesn't need to you. 198 00:09:14,377 --> 00:09:19,937 Speaker 1: So can I tell you my frustration? Yeah, My frustration 199 00:09:20,177 --> 00:09:23,497 Speaker 1: with with Bill Maher is I think he sort of 200 00:09:24,137 --> 00:09:27,537 Speaker 1: sees what's really going on a little bit in the country. Now. 201 00:09:28,537 --> 00:09:29,977 Speaker 1: He's been on the wrong side of things for a 202 00:09:30,057 --> 00:09:32,137 Speaker 1: long time. He's not wrong on everything. He's been good 203 00:09:32,177 --> 00:09:33,897 Speaker 1: on some issues for a while. But I think he 204 00:09:33,977 --> 00:09:36,657 Speaker 1: sees more and more of the truth, but he won't really, 205 00:09:37,337 --> 00:09:40,097 Speaker 1: he won't really like fully commit to the truth. It's 206 00:09:40,097 --> 00:09:42,457 Speaker 1: always this game of, well, you guys are right about 207 00:09:42,457 --> 00:09:44,137 Speaker 1: a few things, but I still hate Trump and he's 208 00:09:44,137 --> 00:09:45,417 Speaker 1: still going to destroy the country, and. 209 00:09:46,097 --> 00:09:47,497 Speaker 3: That's the main thing. That's the main thing. 210 00:09:47,537 --> 00:09:50,337 Speaker 2: I think Bill Maher has come around on some of 211 00:09:50,377 --> 00:09:53,137 Speaker 2: the cultural issues, you know, I think some of the 212 00:09:53,217 --> 00:09:55,697 Speaker 2: trans things and some of the race things. He's he's 213 00:09:55,777 --> 00:09:58,617 Speaker 2: not with the far left on that. He's much more moderate. 214 00:09:58,657 --> 00:10:00,097 Speaker 2: But you you hit the nail on the head. He's 215 00:10:00,257 --> 00:10:03,857 Speaker 2: he really has lost his marbles over Trump to the 216 00:10:03,897 --> 00:10:06,337 Speaker 2: point that he can no longer call balls and strikes 217 00:10:06,977 --> 00:10:10,017 Speaker 2: and and so every you know, not everything Trump does 218 00:10:10,257 --> 00:10:13,817 Speaker 2: is bad, but he's unable to sort of see anything 219 00:10:14,497 --> 00:10:16,257 Speaker 2: around that with a level head. 220 00:10:16,337 --> 00:10:18,417 Speaker 1: So he's just kind of well, I can tell you, 221 00:10:18,497 --> 00:10:20,537 Speaker 1: you know, it's personal with him, and it's personal with 222 00:10:20,617 --> 00:10:22,017 Speaker 1: him and Trump right, same way that it is with 223 00:10:22,137 --> 00:10:25,577 Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough. Same thing. These guys have had interactions. And 224 00:10:25,657 --> 00:10:27,217 Speaker 1: I know this, Like you know, I think that the 225 00:10:27,297 --> 00:10:31,297 Speaker 1: public has this perception that in media we're generally like 226 00:10:31,817 --> 00:10:36,057 Speaker 1: assessing each other as talents or voices or political pundits 227 00:10:36,137 --> 00:10:38,937 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. But sometimes we actually know each other, 228 00:10:39,177 --> 00:10:41,817 Speaker 1: and like you know, there's some people who we just 229 00:10:41,857 --> 00:10:44,217 Speaker 1: don't get along with very well. Like for example, when 230 00:10:44,257 --> 00:10:47,577 Speaker 1: I was on Megan Show recently, she brought up Christine Noam. 231 00:10:48,177 --> 00:10:51,417 Speaker 1: Christinoam is somebody who I have interacted with in the past, 232 00:10:51,617 --> 00:10:54,897 Speaker 1: you know her and I have interacted. Christine Nome lies 233 00:10:55,617 --> 00:10:58,017 Speaker 1: and will lie to my face, and I don't like that. Right, 234 00:10:58,137 --> 00:11:00,497 Speaker 1: So whenever someone's asking like, well, you sound like you're 235 00:11:00,577 --> 00:11:02,857 Speaker 1: kind of negative about you know this or that that 236 00:11:02,977 --> 00:11:04,617 Speaker 1: she's done, I'm like, well, yeah, I'll tell you the truth. 237 00:11:04,697 --> 00:11:06,097 Speaker 1: Like I think she's a liar, and I think she's, 238 00:11:06,137 --> 00:11:08,217 Speaker 1: you know, somebody that shouldn't be in a position of authority. 239 00:11:09,737 --> 00:11:13,297 Speaker 1: Joe Garborough and uh and Bill Maher are two guys 240 00:11:13,297 --> 00:11:16,817 Speaker 1: who have long standing like call it long standing beef 241 00:11:16,897 --> 00:11:18,577 Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. With Donald Trump and I 242 00:11:18,617 --> 00:11:22,137 Speaker 1: think it it completely blinds them to the issues of 243 00:11:22,337 --> 00:11:24,577 Speaker 1: like broader politics right now in a lot of ways 244 00:11:24,617 --> 00:11:28,137 Speaker 1: because they can't fully commit, because fully committing means voting 245 00:11:28,137 --> 00:11:29,897 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump, right. You know, you know what I'm saying, 246 00:11:29,977 --> 00:11:31,817 Speaker 1: Like they like he'll say, oh, I disagree with them 247 00:11:31,897 --> 00:11:33,857 Speaker 1: of the transitionue there. You know, the BLM stuff was 248 00:11:34,057 --> 00:11:35,737 Speaker 1: was not what it was supposed to be or you know, 249 00:11:35,817 --> 00:11:37,457 Speaker 1: it was terrible for the country. I say, it's terrible 250 00:11:37,497 --> 00:11:40,497 Speaker 1: for the country. You know, Biden is like a desiccated 251 00:11:40,657 --> 00:11:42,577 Speaker 1: uh you know, old buffoon. I mean the whole thing. 252 00:11:43,257 --> 00:11:44,737 Speaker 1: But he's still going to vote for Joe Biden, do 253 00:11:44,737 --> 00:11:46,617 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, it's not there's not 254 00:11:46,737 --> 00:11:47,697 Speaker 1: really a conversion there. 255 00:11:48,577 --> 00:11:50,977 Speaker 2: I agree, And I think, yeah, I think with mar 256 00:11:51,097 --> 00:11:52,817 Speaker 2: and Trump there's even some litigation and. 257 00:11:53,017 --> 00:11:57,297 Speaker 1: You know, yes Orangutang lawsuit. 258 00:11:58,017 --> 00:12:00,137 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think there's a personal thing, but there 259 00:12:00,217 --> 00:12:02,737 Speaker 2: might even be something more strategic than that when you 260 00:12:02,937 --> 00:12:05,297 Speaker 2: look at what for example, what joy Behar was saying. 261 00:12:05,377 --> 00:12:07,417 Speaker 2: She had mar on you Mars out there doing this 262 00:12:07,457 --> 00:12:09,777 Speaker 2: book to her and he went on the view and 263 00:12:09,857 --> 00:12:11,777 Speaker 2: joy by Hair was saying, well, I really hesitate to 264 00:12:11,977 --> 00:12:15,097 Speaker 2: say anything negative about Joe Biden, and I think conversely 265 00:12:15,457 --> 00:12:19,337 Speaker 2: probably feels anything positive about Donald Trump because she's worried 266 00:12:19,377 --> 00:12:21,777 Speaker 2: about any swing voters, you know, anyone on a fence. 267 00:12:21,817 --> 00:12:24,057 Speaker 2: She's like, I feel like if I hit Biden, that 268 00:12:24,257 --> 00:12:26,977 Speaker 2: might put some voters over to Trump. So it's strategic 269 00:12:27,057 --> 00:12:29,617 Speaker 2: on hard part. She can recognize when Biden has massive 270 00:12:29,697 --> 00:12:31,897 Speaker 2: gas or does something really stupid, she just don't want 271 00:12:31,937 --> 00:12:34,257 Speaker 2: to talk about it because she doesn't want to, you know, 272 00:12:34,337 --> 00:12:35,577 Speaker 2: have that influence the electorate. 273 00:12:36,977 --> 00:12:38,937 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, hold on one seck. We're gonna come back 274 00:12:38,937 --> 00:12:41,657 Speaker 1: to all things trump world and the news cycle and 275 00:12:41,737 --> 00:12:43,537 Speaker 1: everything else in just a second. But you know, this 276 00:12:43,657 --> 00:12:46,537 Speaker 1: one really hits home for me. There's one guy out 277 00:12:46,577 --> 00:12:50,497 Speaker 1: there who has shaped my view of politics and economics 278 00:12:51,137 --> 00:12:54,697 Speaker 1: almost as much as my dad, and it's Porter Stansbury. 279 00:12:54,697 --> 00:12:56,217 Speaker 1: He's been a friend of mine for a decade and 280 00:12:56,297 --> 00:12:58,457 Speaker 1: for the last twenty five years he has predicted almost 281 00:12:58,497 --> 00:13:03,057 Speaker 1: every major economic and financial move. He has produced a 282 00:13:03,297 --> 00:13:06,297 Speaker 1: documentary that you absolutely have to see, and I think 283 00:13:06,377 --> 00:13:08,617 Speaker 1: the title of it tells you what he's thinking. He 284 00:13:08,777 --> 00:13:12,657 Speaker 1: calls it America's Last Election. It details how there's a 285 00:13:12,697 --> 00:13:15,177 Speaker 1: new financial crisis growing. Look at the thirty four trillion 286 00:13:15,217 --> 00:13:17,497 Speaker 1: dollars of debt we have and the dangers that could 287 00:13:17,497 --> 00:13:19,817 Speaker 1: pose to your finances and your future. So if you 288 00:13:19,897 --> 00:13:22,097 Speaker 1: own any stocks, bonds, or just have cash in the bank, 289 00:13:22,217 --> 00:13:25,217 Speaker 1: or own your home, you've got to watch this documentary. 290 00:13:25,297 --> 00:13:29,657 Speaker 1: Go to Last Election Plot dot com. That's Last Election 291 00:13:29,897 --> 00:13:34,777 Speaker 1: Plot dot com paid for by Porter and Company. Doug. 292 00:13:34,857 --> 00:13:36,697 Speaker 1: What do you think happens if there's a guilty verdict 293 00:13:36,737 --> 00:13:38,057 Speaker 1: in New York against Donald Trump? 294 00:13:39,777 --> 00:13:42,457 Speaker 3: I don't know, in terms of the outcome of the election. 295 00:13:42,577 --> 00:13:44,697 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in terms of the politics, I don't think 296 00:13:44,697 --> 00:13:47,097 Speaker 1: anyone knows if they're worth they think the punishment's going 297 00:13:47,137 --> 00:13:48,617 Speaker 1: to be that's crazy. But I'm just saying if there's 298 00:13:48,617 --> 00:13:50,937 Speaker 1: a guilty verdict doesn't really matter. You think Trump still 299 00:13:50,937 --> 00:13:51,857 Speaker 1: stays ahead in the polls. 300 00:13:52,457 --> 00:13:54,577 Speaker 3: I think it's kind of baked into the polls already. 301 00:13:55,057 --> 00:13:55,257 Speaker 1: Yeah. 302 00:13:55,297 --> 00:13:57,257 Speaker 2: I think I think people are you know, anyone sort 303 00:13:57,297 --> 00:14:00,457 Speaker 2: of watching or even even loosely watching just sort of 304 00:14:01,977 --> 00:14:03,537 Speaker 2: you know, kind of sees things for what it is. 305 00:14:04,137 --> 00:14:06,697 Speaker 2: The actual guilty verdict, you know, that is a difference. 306 00:14:06,737 --> 00:14:08,217 Speaker 2: But I just feel like it's sort of baked into 307 00:14:08,217 --> 00:14:08,977 Speaker 2: the numbers already. 308 00:14:09,217 --> 00:14:13,617 Speaker 1: Well, I also feel like a guilty verdict for a 309 00:14:13,777 --> 00:14:17,737 Speaker 1: thing that is bad gilty. If someone says, this guy's 310 00:14:17,777 --> 00:14:20,457 Speaker 1: guilty of armed robbery, or like, this guy's guilty of, 311 00:14:20,577 --> 00:14:22,697 Speaker 1: you know, hitting an old lady over the head with 312 00:14:22,857 --> 00:14:25,297 Speaker 1: a lead pipe to steal her bag, you go, oh, 313 00:14:26,297 --> 00:14:32,417 Speaker 1: a guilty verdict on business records that are a misdemeanor 314 00:14:32,577 --> 00:14:36,497 Speaker 1: but maybe a felony for an unnamed federal election issue 315 00:14:36,537 --> 00:14:37,977 Speaker 1: that they don't even tell us what it is that 316 00:14:38,017 --> 00:14:40,177 Speaker 1: he's not even been convicted for. I mean, it is 317 00:14:40,297 --> 00:14:43,577 Speaker 1: the vaguest, crappiest criminal case I've ever seen in my life. 318 00:14:43,577 --> 00:14:46,537 Speaker 1: I've actually never seen a flimsier criminal indictment. And I 319 00:14:46,657 --> 00:14:50,217 Speaker 1: even have Democrat DA friends in New York who worked 320 00:14:50,217 --> 00:14:52,777 Speaker 1: at the DA's office who will admit that, like they 321 00:14:52,777 --> 00:14:54,457 Speaker 1: can't say it out loud because they'll get fired, but 322 00:14:54,737 --> 00:14:56,577 Speaker 1: they know this is garbage. 323 00:14:57,137 --> 00:14:57,337 Speaker 3: Yeah. 324 00:14:57,377 --> 00:14:59,417 Speaker 2: I think enough people know that and have been talking 325 00:14:59,457 --> 00:15:01,697 Speaker 2: about that. And the Fanny Willis stuff, which is a 326 00:15:01,737 --> 00:15:04,617 Speaker 2: totally separate thing but was so absurd and got so 327 00:15:04,817 --> 00:15:07,257 Speaker 2: much national attention that I think in the minds of 328 00:15:07,257 --> 00:15:08,657 Speaker 2: a lot of people, these are all sort of lumped 329 00:15:08,697 --> 00:15:12,617 Speaker 2: together as these things that are clawed together by his 330 00:15:12,777 --> 00:15:15,457 Speaker 2: political opponents to come after him, Like, you know, you're 331 00:15:15,457 --> 00:15:19,177 Speaker 2: really supposed to prosecute crime in America, not prosecute people. 332 00:15:19,497 --> 00:15:22,657 Speaker 2: So but we've decided to sort of prosecute this person 333 00:15:22,857 --> 00:15:24,457 Speaker 2: as opposed to any particular crimes. 334 00:15:24,537 --> 00:15:26,657 Speaker 3: And so I think people see that. 335 00:15:27,137 --> 00:15:30,537 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I always remind everyone it's it couldn't be 336 00:15:30,577 --> 00:15:33,457 Speaker 1: more obvious that these were all prosecutions that were held 337 00:15:34,297 --> 00:15:37,257 Speaker 1: for political impact, right, meaning that they could have been 338 00:15:37,297 --> 00:15:39,817 Speaker 1: brought much sooner. There's in the case of New York, 339 00:15:39,857 --> 00:15:42,057 Speaker 1: there's nothing. In fact, it's past the Statute of Limitations. 340 00:15:42,497 --> 00:15:45,057 Speaker 1: It was past the Statute of Limitations. They created a 341 00:15:45,377 --> 00:15:48,337 Speaker 1: pretext to extend the Statute of Limitations, and then within 342 00:15:48,417 --> 00:15:51,497 Speaker 1: the new Statute of Limitations waited until the election year. 343 00:15:51,497 --> 00:15:53,977 Speaker 1: I mean, so it's all very obvious. And so I 344 00:15:54,017 --> 00:15:56,537 Speaker 1: think they've created a I think they've created an environment 345 00:15:56,577 --> 00:16:00,457 Speaker 1: where even if you recognize some of Trump's flaws and like, 346 00:16:00,537 --> 00:16:02,977 Speaker 1: I find Trump again, I know him, right, I mean, 347 00:16:03,017 --> 00:16:04,737 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've dealt with the You've met Trump in 348 00:16:04,777 --> 00:16:05,097 Speaker 1: the past. 349 00:16:05,977 --> 00:16:08,457 Speaker 2: Gave me a handshake one time, which I was ticked 350 00:16:08,497 --> 00:16:11,617 Speaker 2: off about. Well, what shaper he'll like sort of. 351 00:16:11,657 --> 00:16:14,177 Speaker 3: Reach out he reaches way out and then he pulls 352 00:16:14,257 --> 00:16:15,737 Speaker 3: you in. You know, he sort of jerks you off 353 00:16:15,777 --> 00:16:16,137 Speaker 3: your feet. 354 00:16:17,097 --> 00:16:19,497 Speaker 1: He gave you one of those just oh yeah, it was. 355 00:16:19,657 --> 00:16:20,297 Speaker 3: This is years ago. 356 00:16:20,377 --> 00:16:24,537 Speaker 2: This is probably twenty fourteen or something. We were at 357 00:16:25,137 --> 00:16:26,777 Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden for a hockey. 358 00:16:26,577 --> 00:16:30,297 Speaker 3: Game or something. Him briefly there, and you know, it 359 00:16:30,337 --> 00:16:30,897 Speaker 3: actually wasn't that. 360 00:16:30,897 --> 00:16:32,057 Speaker 2: I did see him there once, but it was at 361 00:16:32,137 --> 00:16:37,217 Speaker 2: the Heeraldo Rivera was doing the Celebrity Apprentice there too. 362 00:16:37,817 --> 00:16:38,977 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's years years ago. 363 00:16:39,017 --> 00:16:41,097 Speaker 2: But yeah, he's sort of famous for having his tactic 364 00:16:41,177 --> 00:16:43,457 Speaker 2: to sort of get you off your game a little bit. 365 00:16:43,497 --> 00:16:45,857 Speaker 2: So he reaches far out, but he braces himself and 366 00:16:45,897 --> 00:16:47,777 Speaker 2: then when you shake his hand, he pulls you so 367 00:16:47,857 --> 00:16:49,777 Speaker 2: you come like sort of fumbling into him a little bit. 368 00:16:50,497 --> 00:16:53,057 Speaker 2: And afterward I was like, did you see what he did? 369 00:16:53,137 --> 00:16:55,657 Speaker 2: That was so ridiculous? And then of course I looked 370 00:16:55,657 --> 00:16:57,217 Speaker 2: for it on TV and you see it every once 371 00:16:57,217 --> 00:16:57,617 Speaker 2: in a while. 372 00:16:58,617 --> 00:17:00,177 Speaker 1: Last time I saw him, he gave me a vanilla 373 00:17:00,217 --> 00:17:02,817 Speaker 1: milkshake that I didn't even ask for, so I was, oh, 374 00:17:03,017 --> 00:17:05,697 Speaker 1: that's nice. He's got yeah, exactly, he's got different, different, 375 00:17:05,737 --> 00:17:07,257 Speaker 1: different strokes with different folks. 376 00:17:08,537 --> 00:17:12,057 Speaker 2: But I think there's a there's a firm, you know, 377 00:17:12,177 --> 00:17:14,417 Speaker 2: get a wide base. The next time you shake his hand, 378 00:17:14,537 --> 00:17:15,097 Speaker 2: be ready for it. 379 00:17:15,297 --> 00:17:17,857 Speaker 1: Okay, But obviously going to say I think that there's 380 00:17:18,017 --> 00:17:22,097 Speaker 1: a case to be made for people voting for Trump 381 00:17:22,257 --> 00:17:25,217 Speaker 1: just as a protest vote against all the stuff that 382 00:17:25,217 --> 00:17:26,897 Speaker 1: they're doing, because the stuff that they're doing is completely 383 00:17:26,937 --> 00:17:29,257 Speaker 1: outrageous and it's so bad. I say this. I know 384 00:17:29,337 --> 00:17:31,937 Speaker 1: it's easier said than you know, you can't prove it, right, 385 00:17:32,017 --> 00:17:34,897 Speaker 1: but if they were doing this to a Democrat, I'd 386 00:17:34,897 --> 00:17:36,817 Speaker 1: be like, guys, we can't do this. We we can't. 387 00:17:36,857 --> 00:17:41,657 Speaker 1: We can't have a republican administration overseeing effectively. I know 388 00:17:41,697 --> 00:17:45,057 Speaker 1: there's saying, oh, it's all separate, that's nonsense for criminal 389 00:17:45,097 --> 00:17:47,657 Speaker 1: indictments of their chief political opponent, like this is just 390 00:17:48,337 --> 00:17:50,937 Speaker 1: this is Honestly, if I was still in the CIA, 391 00:17:50,977 --> 00:17:52,817 Speaker 1: we'd be looking at some country doing this like how 392 00:17:52,857 --> 00:17:54,577 Speaker 1: long before the coup? You know what I mean. It's 393 00:17:54,657 --> 00:17:54,937 Speaker 1: not good. 394 00:17:55,097 --> 00:17:56,297 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do. 395 00:17:56,337 --> 00:17:57,697 Speaker 2: Think it's our you know, we don't like to see 396 00:17:57,737 --> 00:18:00,697 Speaker 2: our former presidents prosecuted like this, especially on these kind 397 00:18:00,737 --> 00:18:03,017 Speaker 2: of things. I think it probably has outraged a lot 398 00:18:03,097 --> 00:18:07,097 Speaker 2: of people and and may backfire, you know on Democrats. 399 00:18:07,417 --> 00:18:09,137 Speaker 1: Do you ever go shooting? You a gun? Guy? 400 00:18:10,537 --> 00:18:10,777 Speaker 4: I have? 401 00:18:11,177 --> 00:18:13,217 Speaker 2: You know, I grew up my grandfather and my dad 402 00:18:13,337 --> 00:18:16,577 Speaker 2: were big duck hunters, and actually my grandfather even was 403 00:18:16,617 --> 00:18:18,257 Speaker 2: a bit of a deer hunter too, although I never 404 00:18:18,297 --> 00:18:19,697 Speaker 2: did that, but I did go duck hunting a lot 405 00:18:19,737 --> 00:18:22,017 Speaker 2: as a kid. So, you know, reading the blind and 406 00:18:22,097 --> 00:18:24,017 Speaker 2: then putting out the decoys in the dark of night, 407 00:18:24,057 --> 00:18:25,697 Speaker 2: waiting for the sun to come up in a freezing 408 00:18:25,777 --> 00:18:27,137 Speaker 2: February morning in New Jersey. 409 00:18:27,337 --> 00:18:28,937 Speaker 3: So you can do a lot of that as a kid. 410 00:18:28,977 --> 00:18:31,577 Speaker 1: It's been a while though, Well, I actually don't do much. 411 00:18:31,577 --> 00:18:33,977 Speaker 1: I don't do hunting, but I do like tactical training 412 00:18:34,017 --> 00:18:35,977 Speaker 1: and a range. And if you ever make your way 413 00:18:36,017 --> 00:18:38,937 Speaker 1: down to South Florida, we'll take you out the section. Brothers. 414 00:18:38,977 --> 00:18:40,977 Speaker 1: We all we've got arsenals and we go shooting all 415 00:18:41,017 --> 00:18:42,817 Speaker 1: the time. We've got like silencers and all kinds of 416 00:18:42,817 --> 00:18:45,457 Speaker 1: fun stuff. Short air, right, oh I love that. Oh yeah, 417 00:18:45,857 --> 00:18:48,817 Speaker 1: oh yeah. But we'll get you out on a on 418 00:18:48,897 --> 00:18:50,937 Speaker 1: a day where you can shoot some Barrack Greek Arsenal too. 419 00:18:51,137 --> 00:18:55,297 Speaker 1: Barack Greek Arsenal sponsor of the segment of the podcast, 420 00:18:55,417 --> 00:18:59,737 Speaker 1: right now and they make amazing precision firearms, the best 421 00:18:59,857 --> 00:19:03,617 Speaker 1: value for the craftsmanship and the accuracy you get anywhere 422 00:19:03,617 --> 00:19:06,017 Speaker 1: in the firearms industry. I visited with these guys in 423 00:19:06,057 --> 00:19:09,657 Speaker 1: North Carolina. They have an amazing factory. They're all gunn people, 424 00:19:09,697 --> 00:19:13,257 Speaker 1: second people. They really believe in what they're doing. 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You want to talk about 434 00:19:37,697 --> 00:19:40,217 Speaker 1: your You're working on another I've got the mysterious case 435 00:19:40,257 --> 00:19:44,137 Speaker 1: of Rudolph Diesel here and it's a very it strikes 436 00:19:44,177 --> 00:19:45,777 Speaker 1: me as like a very German name every time I 437 00:19:45,817 --> 00:19:47,617 Speaker 1: say it. I want to be like Rudolph Diesel. Uh. 438 00:19:48,577 --> 00:19:52,737 Speaker 1: But yeah, But do you want to talk about your 439 00:19:52,777 --> 00:19:54,257 Speaker 1: next project. What are you working on right now? 440 00:19:55,097 --> 00:19:57,817 Speaker 2: Well, the next project is I haven't announced what it 441 00:19:58,257 --> 00:20:00,017 Speaker 2: is exactly, but I will tell you it's from that 442 00:20:00,097 --> 00:20:02,297 Speaker 2: same period of time. The Diesel Book is the quarter 443 00:20:02,377 --> 00:20:05,337 Speaker 2: century before World War One in Europe, and it's about 444 00:20:05,417 --> 00:20:08,137 Speaker 2: Rudolph Diesel, who invented diesel engine and he disappears in 445 00:20:08,177 --> 00:20:10,457 Speaker 2: the EVA World War One. Right if the diesel engine, 446 00:20:10,977 --> 00:20:12,737 Speaker 2: you know, head emergency the only way to operate a 447 00:20:12,817 --> 00:20:14,057 Speaker 2: submarine or a U boat. 448 00:20:14,137 --> 00:20:15,857 Speaker 3: So the Kaiser was very. 449 00:20:15,817 --> 00:20:18,697 Speaker 2: Interested in Rudolph Diesel, and he was still the sort 450 00:20:18,697 --> 00:20:20,817 Speaker 2: of main guy who could make a diesel engine work 451 00:20:20,857 --> 00:20:23,057 Speaker 2: for a U boat. He disappeared. There are all sorts 452 00:20:23,057 --> 00:20:26,137 Speaker 2: of murder theories about what happened to him. And I'm 453 00:20:26,177 --> 00:20:29,617 Speaker 2: staying that same time period and it'll be the same 454 00:20:29,737 --> 00:20:32,937 Speaker 2: kind of thing. It's things you don't know about people 455 00:20:33,097 --> 00:20:35,657 Speaker 2: you don't. 456 00:20:35,337 --> 00:20:38,737 Speaker 1: If you had to give somebody, if you had a 457 00:20:38,817 --> 00:20:40,937 Speaker 1: friend who was like, oh, I'm going on vacation for 458 00:20:41,017 --> 00:20:43,617 Speaker 1: a week, I can only bring one book, forget about Kendalls, 459 00:20:43,737 --> 00:20:46,577 Speaker 1: only bring one book, and I just want to really 460 00:20:47,417 --> 00:20:50,697 Speaker 1: enjoy the read. Nonfiction, I don't do it. I don't 461 00:20:50,697 --> 00:20:54,297 Speaker 1: talk of fiction here. Nonfiction what would be your recommendation 462 00:20:54,377 --> 00:20:56,457 Speaker 1: for somebody, I mean, just like your your what is 463 00:20:56,537 --> 00:20:59,617 Speaker 1: your can't miss? I think you'll enjoy this nonfiction book 464 00:20:59,697 --> 00:21:01,617 Speaker 1: other than your own. Of course, they should already have 465 00:21:01,657 --> 00:21:03,497 Speaker 1: a copy of The Mysterious Case of Rudolph Diesel. 466 00:21:03,777 --> 00:21:05,937 Speaker 2: Well they should. I mean people are saying it's the 467 00:21:06,017 --> 00:21:09,577 Speaker 2: best best book of the year, of course Diesel. Outside 468 00:21:09,577 --> 00:21:12,977 Speaker 2: of that, I would go back to an early book 469 00:21:13,057 --> 00:21:15,417 Speaker 2: by Barbara Tuckman. If you've got vacation, you don't want 470 00:21:15,457 --> 00:21:19,137 Speaker 2: a big doorstop, there's one called The Zimmerman Telegram. 471 00:21:18,777 --> 00:21:20,617 Speaker 1: By Barbara tuckle First World War. 472 00:21:22,377 --> 00:21:24,417 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it sort of gets to it wasn't the 473 00:21:24,497 --> 00:21:27,017 Speaker 2: Lustina so much that got us into the war. That 474 00:21:27,377 --> 00:21:28,977 Speaker 2: happened years before we got in it. 475 00:21:29,417 --> 00:21:31,337 Speaker 1: It was the Germans trying to get the Mexicans to 476 00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:33,017 Speaker 1: open up another front on our doorstep. 477 00:21:33,097 --> 00:21:35,017 Speaker 2: That's kind of a rough one, exactly right, Yeah, And 478 00:21:35,257 --> 00:21:39,377 Speaker 2: then British Intel intercepts it, and so rather than the 479 00:21:39,457 --> 00:21:42,177 Speaker 2: Germans getting Mexico to come after us and keep us 480 00:21:42,217 --> 00:21:44,417 Speaker 2: busy over on our hemisphere, we intercept this thing and 481 00:21:44,537 --> 00:21:47,337 Speaker 2: we jump in. So and she's just a beautiful writer, 482 00:21:48,137 --> 00:21:50,417 Speaker 2: and it's a great book and it's a fairly short 483 00:21:50,457 --> 00:21:53,057 Speaker 2: one I have on my shelf right here. 484 00:21:53,657 --> 00:21:54,977 Speaker 1: It is a bit of a doorstop, but I have 485 00:21:55,057 --> 00:21:56,857 Speaker 1: a distant mirror. I haven't read it. 486 00:21:57,057 --> 00:22:01,257 Speaker 3: That's great, yeah, or fourteenth century, I can't remember. Yeah. 487 00:22:01,377 --> 00:22:03,777 Speaker 1: I just ripped through Rubicon, which I feel like everyone's read, 488 00:22:03,857 --> 00:22:05,697 Speaker 1: and this one's right next to it, so I think 489 00:22:05,777 --> 00:22:08,537 Speaker 1: that's next on the list, So I will get to 490 00:22:08,737 --> 00:22:11,697 Speaker 1: it after I get to the mysterious case of it. 491 00:22:11,777 --> 00:22:13,817 Speaker 1: Off diesel, Doug. Fun to hang out with you, man, 492 00:22:13,857 --> 00:22:16,617 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Good luck on the next project. We'll 493 00:22:16,657 --> 00:22:17,937 Speaker 1: have you all when you want to talk about it. 494 00:22:18,417 --> 00:22:20,377 Speaker 1: And you know, next time you have like a you know, 495 00:22:20,777 --> 00:22:23,457 Speaker 1: cigars and I don't smoke cigars, but makes it sound cooler. 496 00:22:23,617 --> 00:22:25,857 Speaker 1: Cigars and book club meeting, you know, let me know 497 00:22:25,977 --> 00:22:28,097 Speaker 1: if i'm if I'm in town, I'll swing by. 498 00:22:28,777 --> 00:22:31,017 Speaker 3: That would be great. Whiskey. How about that whiskey that 499 00:22:31,177 --> 00:22:31,537 Speaker 3: I can do. 500 00:22:31,617 --> 00:22:34,297 Speaker 1: I can do whiskey for sure, Doug Brunt. Everybody check 501 00:22:34,337 --> 00:22:37,977 Speaker 1: out his latest and subscribe to dedicated podcast. There you go, 502 00:22:38,097 --> 00:22:39,577 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks Bot