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Speaker 1: Heyo, and welcome to a special film session edition of

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Speaker 1: the No Dunks Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host for today, Trey Kirby.

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Speaker 1: We got tasks here, we got jd over there making

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Speaker 1: the magic happen, and we're very excited to welcome our

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Speaker 1: guests today, the directors of the excellent documentary Handle with Care,

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Speaker 1: The Legend of the NDIC Street Ball Crew, now available

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Speaker 1: to stream on Apple TV, Prime Video, YouTube and Google Play.

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Speaker 1: We got Jeremy Shallon ru and Kirk Thomas here. Guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking some time to talk

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Speaker 1: with us about this awesome movie.

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Speaker 3: What's up? Happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll take a look at the trailer real quick

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Speaker 1: and then we'll get into things.

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Speaker 4: Yo.

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Speaker 5: There's a scene in Vancouver and these dudes are nasties.

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Speaker 3: Getting hold of the nutty.

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Speaker 4: It was like go dust vocal or you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like legendary folklore. All right, you come from

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Speaker 4: everybody's black to your baby. It's just me and you

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Speaker 4: bad coaches. Tell me, you know, don't play this jungle ball, okay, Like.

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Speaker 5: You don't want us to play like black people.

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Speaker 6: That mixtape had spread like wildfire, Germany, Australia, Japan.

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Speaker 4: Some freestyles.

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Speaker 2: Some of that's called is this crowds ro.

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Speaker 4: We were just street all rock stars. This is the

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Speaker 4: family that I never had until it didn't have it anymore.

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Speaker 5: Right, That's kind of why I've had a bad taste

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Speaker 5: in my mouth when it comes to the two of you.

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Speaker 5: People might say that it's a long time going forget

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Speaker 5: I was in the past, but it really impacted my life.

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Speaker 4: Something really different, and we got an incredible childhood out

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Speaker 4: of it. I feel like it could be comfortable, it

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Speaker 4: would be something great.

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Speaker 1: If you're a street ball sick of you might now

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Speaker 1: you might know the Nautic street Ball Crew, But if not,

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Speaker 1: can you guys fill in our listeners, our watchers on

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Speaker 1: who is the Nautic?

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Speaker 2: Who are you guys? And where's this dot coming from?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I mean the Nautics Basically, I guess you could say

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Speaker 6: it's the Canadian version of an One. We were inspired

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Speaker 6: by A One and Jarre and I were kind of

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Speaker 6: aspiring filmmakers back in the day and we were lucky

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Speaker 6: enough to stumble on these guys with excellent handles and

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Speaker 6: street ball moves, and then it's kind of organically formed

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Speaker 6: into a crew. After that, and called themselves the Nautic.

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Speaker 2: Where'd the name come from?

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Speaker 6: Do you remember back in the day when like every

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Speaker 6: Slam article or every Slam cover it was just like

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Speaker 6: a hip hop title. We kind of just stole that,

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Speaker 6: like the we used to be big into well still

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Speaker 6: are big into the Roots. And when the Roots Live

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Speaker 6: album came out, they had a song called Hypnotic, but

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Speaker 6: on the live album it was just called the Nautic.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, that's kind of cool.

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Speaker 6: It's you know, when you're like watching these guys play,

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Speaker 6: it's it's hypnotic, or especially if you're guarding them, you're

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Speaker 6: getting hypnotized by the they're dribbling and stuff. So I

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Speaker 6: don't know, it kind of worked out in the long run.

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Speaker 2: I think it's awesome. I love the name. Like we said,

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Speaker 2: the documentary is great.

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Speaker 1: We got to see it at All Star Weekend in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: We had an incredible time. Blew us away. You said

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Speaker 2: you were inspired by and One back in the day.

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Speaker 1: What's the timeframe of like when you guys linked up,

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Speaker 1: how you got it started doing this, how old everybody was,

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Speaker 1: because y'all are still young, You're very young in the

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Speaker 1: documentary and the guys that you are videotape and the

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Speaker 1: not a crew I seem to be even younger than y'all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's probably like correct me anywhere I go off track,

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Speaker 5: but it's probably And one mixtape, Volume two kind of

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Speaker 5: made its way to Canada maybe like ninety eight, ninety nine,

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Speaker 5: maybe ninety eight, and then we you know, we're like,

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Speaker 5: oh we could, we can make it a street ball

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Speaker 5: mixtape and started basically handing the camera to each other

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Speaker 5: and filming ourselves doing not good moves. And then and

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Speaker 5: Hoop It Up, which is the big three on three

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Speaker 5: least in Canada every summer. And we're filming a game

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Speaker 5: with our friends and we're like, oh, yeah, the continuation

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Speaker 5: of our very crappy mixtape that we're making. And then

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Speaker 5: all of a sudden, there's just like a crowd rushing

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Speaker 5: the crowd, holding it up, you know, mixtape style, and

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Speaker 5: there's King Handles and he you know, pulls a sham

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Speaker 5: and then they start doing moves that even the and

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Speaker 5: one Guy's hadn't seen before, and we're like, this is

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Speaker 5: our city. I remember we felt like we were street

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Speaker 5: ball experts because an one and Kirk was.

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Speaker 4: Like, do you think these move do you think? I think?

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Speaker 5: Let me say it better, I think. I said to Kirk, like,

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Speaker 5: do you think they could do these moves on us?

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Speaker 5: And they were like they could do these moves on anyone.

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Speaker 5: The worst part is the very first move was so sick,

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Speaker 5: and we did the classic thing. I did classic thing

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Speaker 5: where you hit record to stop it.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and then hit start at the end of

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Speaker 4: the move. We need the top so we got anything else.

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Speaker 5: And so we were probably like just finishing high school

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Speaker 5: eighteen and then the oldest members of the crew like

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Speaker 5: King Handles and Goosebumps were probably sixteen and Rory uh

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Speaker 5: Aka Disaster Grace back then it was probably like twelve

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Speaker 4: So that's that's roughly the ages.

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Speaker 1: And so this is like late nineties, early two thousands,

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Speaker 1: like you said, and one mixtape is kind of revolutionizing basketball,

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Speaker 1: bringing street ball to the people, to the masses making

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Speaker 1: it more visible.

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Speaker 2: But y'all are like twelve through what.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen nineteen years of age, and then what you must

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Speaker 1: be just be hanging out all the time, going to

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Speaker 1: the park, playing basketball, filming whatever you can.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's basically it be good old days, exactly it.

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Speaker 1: So you said you started filming each other yourselves, and

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Speaker 1: then you find the crew and King Handles and everybody

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Speaker 1: doing these fancy moves. When you're going back and watching

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Speaker 1: the footage, did you at least find stuff from your own.

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Speaker 2: Tapes that you're like, Hey, I was actually kind of

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Speaker 6: I mean I've got a few moves in the Nautic one,

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Speaker 6: a couple like no look passes behind the back stuff

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Speaker 6: like that. But yeah, I mean it definitely was not

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Speaker 5: I have a couple of blocks, like before we met

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Speaker 5: the actual what became the Nauty crew, like Joey and

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Speaker 5: Goose and all those guys, the mixtape was just going

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Speaker 5: to be blocks. What would happen is like Kirk would

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Speaker 5: I would go to the bathroom in the edit and

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Speaker 5: then I would come back and Kirk would have cut

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Speaker 5: like a three clip montage of his own footage.

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Speaker 4: And let's true that to one.

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Speaker 1: You gotta try and sneak him in any way you can.

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Speaker 1: But so what the Knott drops the first one? Pretty

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Speaker 1: big success or at least an unexpected success. What was

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Speaker 1: it like watching the product that you had made for

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Speaker 6: I mean, the majority of our filming at the beginning,

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Speaker 6: called Don Bosco, and we had a screening there. We

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Speaker 6: and that was the first time we showed it to anyone,

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Speaker 6: and we were very nervous on how it was going

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Speaker 6: to be received. But yeah, everyone was going crazy running

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Speaker 6: then there's a lot of street ball message boards, and

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Speaker 6: we created a little nottic One trailer, put it up

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Speaker 6: on the message boards, and then used my parents, well

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Speaker 6: that's where I lived. I still lived a home at

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Speaker 6: the time, and use my parents' addresses like the mailing

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Speaker 3: And then yeah, just.

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Speaker 6: Flooding coming in all the time, like every day. I

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Speaker 1: Kirk, did I see correctly in an article that at

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Speaker 1: this time you were kind of scamming cassette tapes to

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Speaker 1: be able to actually record these in mail.

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Speaker 2: A mount of people.

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Speaker 6: Well, I worked at Rogers Video at the time, and

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Speaker 6: we used to just throw away the plastic cases. But

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Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, we're gonna use these to ship out

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Speaker 6: the knoutoct tapes, you know, brilliant.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, cut down on cost pretty So it's.

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Speaker 5: Like the life back then, where you know, Kirk's working

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Speaker 5: at Rodgers Video, I'm working at a bingo hall. That's

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Speaker 5: how we're like financing camera rentals and things like this,

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Speaker 5: and you just you'd like call in sick to work,

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Speaker 5: Like Kirk would call Rodgers Video and be like, oh, sorry,

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Speaker 5: I can't come in today, and oh why oh have

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Speaker 5: you guys ever heard of the Pharmacist. He's a streetball

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Speaker 5: legend from like Mount Vernon, New York. He's going to

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Speaker 5: play kids speech against my friend anyways, And they'd be like,

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Speaker 5: next time, just say you're sick.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good advice as well. You don't need to

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Speaker 2: give a reason.

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Speaker 1: You've mentioned a few great names here King Handle's one

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Speaker 1: of the big stars of the movie. Rory Grace went

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Speaker 1: by Disaster. I absolutely love the nickname Goosebumps. Were these

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Speaker 1: run of play, And did you guys ever get blessed

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: They were there from the beginning, like King Handles Goosebumps. Occasionally,

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Speaker 5: like some random guy would walk on and it'd be

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Speaker 5: like a set free end one situation where someone would

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Speaker 5: be like, I have Mike and they'd be.

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Speaker 4: Like killer Cross, right or killer Cross Now. I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I think uh.

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Speaker 5: Kirk at some point dubbed me the turnover machine, which

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Speaker 5: wasn't very nice, like, I don't know, Well, it's a

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Speaker 5: start at least, you know, yeah, yeah, I'm on the page.

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Speaker 1: So the first one a pretty big success. You guys

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Speaker 1: are making things happening on the message boards, and obviously

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Speaker 1: it kind of explodes a little bit going into filming

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Speaker 1: for the Notty too, it seems like you guys professionalized

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I know, you added a couple of

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Speaker 1: members to the crew. Six Fingers who literally has six

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Speaker 1: fingers but knocks down shots with that hand that was

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Speaker 1: incredible to me.

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Speaker 2: And then, uh, does that.

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Speaker 1: Aster who you said was like twelve years old when

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Speaker 1: he started playing with y'all? What was it when you

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Speaker 1: were getting ready for the Knatic two? What was your

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Speaker 1: mindset then?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Nautic two for Hoop it Up especially, we

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Speaker 6: kind of went all out instead of having just like

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Speaker 6: a little crappy handicam.

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Speaker 3: We rented i think two or three.

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Speaker 6: Different cameras and now we're having like multiple angles that

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Speaker 6: we can cut to. The guys all got jerseys, they're

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Speaker 6: with their name on the back. And I was just

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Speaker 1: You mentioned that Joey went on to play professionally. He

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Speaker 6: I mean, Joey was always he's a street baller, but

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Speaker 4: Shipped us this huge box of shoes and gear.

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Speaker 5: And they all start flipping out and they all sprint

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Speaker 1: He's just like, a yeah, that's one of the One

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Speaker 6: Yeah, going to and one Man, that was a freaking

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Speaker 6: We got to the gym, there was a massive lineup

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean there's some incredible highlights things that

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Speaker 1: What was it like getting the call from Slam magazine saying, Hey,

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Speaker 4: It was I mean, it was just like.

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Speaker 5: It's one of those things that you you kind of

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Speaker 4: You know, they're like, Okay, this is the date, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a really important part of the movie,

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Speaker 7: It's like Will Smith and Aunt Viv they just said,

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Speaker 7: want to hear some of the stories about how big

441
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 7: A celebrities felt like these guys were twenty years ago

442
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 7: just playing streetball.

443
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 4: I mean, it was like.

444
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 5: They were just the cool I mean, they still are

445
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 5: just the coolest, the coolest people. Like the hanging out

446
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 5: with those guys, you just always felt like you were

447
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 5: hanging out with the rock star, even before the first

448
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 5: mixtape came out, because everybody just knew them just from

449
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 5: like basketball courts and just like yeah, riding around on

450
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 5: on like public transit with Goosebumps was just like the

451
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 5: coolest I've ever felt in my life because he just

452
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,199
Speaker 5: those guys just carry themselves like like stars, but in

453
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,640
Speaker 5: a super approachable way. And that's like like Joey would

454
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 5: just get mobbed, like everywhere we went.

455
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 4: Everybody knew him.

456
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 5: It's funny because King Handles is like a very popular nickname,

457
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 5: but it was just Joey, Joey, Joey, where's Joey. What's

458
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 5: Joey gonna do? Because he's just got like you know,

459
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 5: like the the super smile. He makes everybody feel like

460
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 5: they're a part of it everywhere he goes, so like

461
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 5: it's one of you know, you know those people you

462
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 5: know that like everyone you everyone you'd meet, you'd say like, oh, yeah,

463
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 5: we're working on this mixtape.

464
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 4: They're, oh, yeah, I'm friends with Joey.

465
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 5: Like you probably actually just met him at an event

466
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 5: like and bobbed him with one hundred people. But he

467
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 5: made you feel like, you know, he remembered you, and

468
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 5: he made you feel like you're you're part of something.

469
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 5: So I think, yeah, like just just going in a

470
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 5: store signing, they would be signing shoes and all this stuff.

471
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 5: And then of course, like we would all go home

472
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 5: to our part time jobs, and those guys would go

473
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 5: back to high school and be working on their trying

474
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 5: to get their D one tapes out and their their

475
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 5: SATs and stuff. So there's always like a big difference

476
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 5: between the courts and back home. I think for all

477
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 5: of us.

478
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, were you guys helping it all with like the

479
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: D one tapes and stuff like trying to get these

480
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 1: guys recruited to go to college.

481
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, we made a tape for Goosebumps and for King

482
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 6: Handles and they should John and Dave and John and Dave.

483
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of caught lightning in a bottle because

484
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 1: everybody seems like you're saying very cool, very charismatic, but

485
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: nobody seems like a dickhead at all when you're watching this,

486
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: which is, you know, with the way some of the

487
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,959
Speaker 1: things went down, maybe there could be some beef between

488
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: you guys, but I thought everybody seemed to still like

489
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: each other twenty years later, which is pretty surprising to me.

490
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 1: Do you keep in touch with these guys? Are you

491
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: still connected in any way?

492
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, we still keep in touch quite a bit.

493
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 4: Me.

494
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 6: King Handles, Fingers and Johnny Blaze were playing regularly in

495
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 6: an early Sunday morning run at this community center, and

496
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 6: then we just stopped because a few of us joined

497
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 6: the league. But yeah, I see those guys regularly. Goosebumps

498
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 6: lives in Edmonton, so we don't see him as much anymore.

499
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, we all keep in touch.

500
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 6: We've got a group chat going anytime something cool happens

501
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 6: with the documentary or whatever, like the other day, Reza

502
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 6: and Chris Paul posted it to their story and everyone

503
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 6: went crazy. In the group chat, so we're definitely keeping

504
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 6: in touch.

505
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is really cool that you've got, i mean,

506
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: huge names attached to this executive produced by like you're saying,

507
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: Chris Paul and the Rizza along with Shai Gil Just

508
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: Alexander and lou Dort some Canadian legends there. How did

509
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 1: you get those guys roped into this because I think

510
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: that that definitely and lends some credibility to the project.

511
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: And just I mean, as Canadians and basketball fans, you

512
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: got to be thrilled to have like two of the

513
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: biggest Canadian names attached to the project as well.

514
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, that came through Slam kind of came on to

515
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 5: distribute the film along with Gravitas and our guy at

516
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 5: Slam RTG Features, Aaron Phillips, was like, we gotta let's

517
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 5: let's start sending this out. This movie is gonna get

518
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 5: seen and started finding people as we were finishing it

519
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 5: to kind of come on board. And the way the

520
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 5: story goes that we were told was that they sent

521
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 5: it to Chris Paul, and Chris Paul's like, I'm really

522
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 5: excited about this. He has a production company called O

523
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 5: Dip that's putting out all kinds of really cool documentaries

524
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 5: and like black historical colleges and America documentaries, really cool stuff.

525
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 5: And then he was like, this is how long ago

526
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 5: this thing was was kind of being processed. He went,

527
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 5: you know what, I think, like it's Canadian. I think

528
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 5: my Canadian friends on okay se might like it, and

529
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 5: just kind of like called Sga and Lou and they're like, yeah,

530
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 5: we're in, we'll watch it.

531
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 4: And they're like, okay, now we're all in.

532
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 5: And then around the same time apparently we got we

533
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 5: heard that Riza finally got back.

534
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 4: To us after we sent him to the tape. However

535
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 4: long ago was like, I'm also in.

536
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 2: Cool.

537
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm sure I think you said you

538
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: had wu tang on the old tapes, right like on the.

539
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 5: Old very first clip that John was watching was like

540
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 5: cut to the Mystery of Chessbox and so like and

541
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 5: like Chris Paul Shamguds is, Yeah, you know it's like

542
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 5: brought a little tears.

543
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah that's really cool, Kirk. You said you still play

544
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: with these guys sometimes they still got it.

545
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 6: Oh hell yeah, yeah, Joey's Joey's playing every every single

546
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 6: day pretty much.

547
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 3: I'm in the league right now.

548
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 6: I'm not on the same team as six, but he's

549
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 6: in the same league as me, and believe it or not,

550
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 6: he was like one of the league leading rebounders, just

551
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 6: for a little guy. But yeah, I would still I

552
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 6: would get there and watch some of his games. He's

553
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 6: still shooting threes from deep. Yeah, I think they're all

554
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 6: pretty much playing still. That's something awesome I think.

555
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: I mean, like Joey to me seems like completely ahead

556
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: of his time.

557
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: It's like a career now to be a street ball player.

558
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: And I think it's pretty cool that he's had like

559
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 1: a second life on his Instagram channel, like going against

560
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: Devin the Lab and the Hes. He got guys that

561
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: like are today's big street ball players.

562
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: That's really cool.

563
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: What's it like being on the festival circuit because, like

564
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: you said, this project really started for you guys again

565
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: back when Chris Paul was still on the OKC Thunder

566
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: and that's what two teams ago for.

567
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: Chris Paul at this point.

568
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: But since then you debuted at the Vancouver International Film Festival.

569
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: I'm guessing they probably call that VIV I know they

570
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: call it TIFF in Toronto, but I know that you

571
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: nailed it well, what's alike going all over the place

572
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: showing this movie to different people.

573
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 5: I feel like the Viv screening was was sort of

574
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 5: the most fun because the whole crew was there and

575
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 5: that was like, that's what felt like a reunion and

576
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 5: you were talking about the kind of Will Smith and Viv.

577
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 5: I feel like Jermaine was on stage with us and

578
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 5: spoke in that in that in the Q and A

579
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 5: after and it just felt like I just like this

580
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 5: whole filmmaking process, I think was just something that was

581
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 5: a huge, huge part of kind of Kirk and ized

582
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 5: coming of age, and I think probably these guys is

583
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 5: coming of age too, and it to be able to like,

584
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 5: I feel like we're finishing it now with it coming

585
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 5: out in a way that feels really satisfying. It just

586
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 5: like it was a long time where I wasn't talking

587
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 5: with these people that are sort of my heroes, and

588
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 5: now we're on this group chat altogether because of this

589
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 5: this thing that we made is just feels really really good.

590
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 5: It feels really really like like a powerful.

591
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 4: Part of our lives that we can kind of enjoy

592
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 4: in a new way.

593
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,239
Speaker 5: And then traveling to the film Festival, Kirk I live

594
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 5: in Toronto, so it was really lovely to have the

595
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 5: film screen at Hot Dogs, which is one of the

596
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 5: great documentary festivals. So he came out, Our cinematographer, Hunter

597
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 5: Wood came out with his family and we all got

598
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 5: to watch it there. Rory and Joey came out and

599
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 5: then we didn't track Kirkie traveled to New York, so

600
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 5: maybe we could talk about that.

601
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll just add though, for Viff, it was so

602
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 6: fun watching it there with everybody in the crowd because

603
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 6: there was a lot of basketball players. So like we've

604
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 6: watched the movie with other people, like maybe more into film,

605
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 6: but the people that were into ball anytime there was

606
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 6: like a street ball move up up on the on

607
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 6: the screen, like the crowd was going crazy.

608
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 3: Pretty rowdy, rowdy night, I thought. Yeah.

609
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 6: New York, New York was another highlight. We got there

610
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 6: a couple of days early. Me and Joey linked up

611
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 6: with this other street ball guy and one he's very

612
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 6: big on Instagram, and we got to play at the

613
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 6: West Fourth Courts, which was ye another highlight of this wole,

614
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 6: this whole thing for me. But yeah, we got to

615
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 6: go to New York after that and then most recently

616
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 6: in Indiana for All Star Game.

617
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy that the doors that basketball can open

618
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: for you, Like, I mean, you guys have been around

619
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: the world now doing this kind of stuff and you know,

620
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: selling the tapes around the world. Obviously, there's some great

621
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: scenes in the documentary of Joey throughout the rest of

622
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: his career. I think you said that another documentarian helped

623
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: with that stuff and was making stuff about Joey and

624
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: like going back overseas to Asia and that kind of stuff.

625
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: In the huge impact he's had there. What's like the most,

626
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: the thing that's kind of like blown your mind the

627
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: most throughout the whole process, wrather, whether it be back

628
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: when you were in your early twenties getting responses around

629
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: the globe.

630
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: I was reading some kind.

631
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: Of profile and people were like wowed that they got

632
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: an email from Estonia. Nobody knew what Estonia was, which

633
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: I thought was pretty hilarious. But you've been a lot

634
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: of places, You've met a lot of people through this.

635
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: What's something that's like happened for you. You're like, no way,

636
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: I can't believe we're really doing this.

637
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 5: I think the NBA Street I think the NBA Street

638
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 5: thing was was really really wild that if people haven't

639
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 5: seen it, then the if you know the video game,

640
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 5: the EA Sports NBA Street Volume two, it's like a

641
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 5: I think it's like a classic classic basketball video game

642
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 5: and it's you do all these You guys could probably

643
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 5: speak to it being like it's a classic trade, like

644
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 5: back me up here, right.

645
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: I definitely like that. We played that all throughout college,

646
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: playing all the time, and I don't know.

647
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: I guess maybe I was just naive and didn't know

648
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: how they made video games, but I never really thought

649
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: about the fact that somebody was really doing these moves

650
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: for the characters to be able to do them in

651
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: the game.

652
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

653
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 5: So we got an email from because they made the

654
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 5: NBA Street one and people thought it was cool, but

655
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 5: it wasn't a big big deal and they're making it

656
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 5: in Vancouver at EA Sports, which is where we were

657
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 5: all were, and we got an email saying like, hey,

658
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 5: you guys are like a local streetball crew. You know,

659
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 5: why do you come in and visit the office? And

660
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,239
Speaker 5: I pretty sure they brought us And as soon as

661
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 5: that they said that, we were like, imagine we could

662
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 5: be goosewumps in a video game use in our minds.

663
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 5: But when they brought us in, you could tell it

664
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 5: was way more like it was way more like community outreach,

665
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,239
Speaker 5: like they're like, check this out, guys, You'll think this

666
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 5: is cool, you know. And then and then, but we

667
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 5: secretly had brought like a really early copy of the

668
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 5: Nautic two, which was so much more in terms of

669
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 5: the creativity of all these guys was on display in

670
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 5: because the Knotck one is shot in like two days,

671
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 5: so the Nautick two was like an entire year of

672
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 5: just like going out missioning with with Goosebumps and David

673
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 5: Dazzle to make this stuff happen. And so we played

674
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 5: this tape and we could watch the producers of NBA

675
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 5: Street their eyes kind of go why of like, oh,

676
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 5: there's a lot of new moves here, like a lot

677
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 5: of things that no one's ever seen before. And so

678
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 5: fast forward to a month later and Kirk had to

679
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 5: work at Rogers Video. But I'm sitting next to the

680
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 5: director of NBA Street on this motion capture stage.

681
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 4: Of course, back.

682
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 5: Then, like everything everybody wore was like Fubu triple XL.

683
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 5: So just seeing King Handles walk out in like a

684
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 5: skin tight outfit with like ping pong balls all over it.

685
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 5: Like everyone was going like bananas about it, and we're

686
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 5: just sitting there and they're just doing like move after move,

687
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 5: and like I was thinking about this, like I just

688
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 5: imagine I don't know what like Task's signature move is,

689
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 5: but imagine you like get a video game one day

690
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 5: and you hit like up down, left, right, be a start,

691
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 5: and it does like the task signature spin move and

692
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 5: Bubbido Garcia's like, you know, it's off the meat Rackazzoni

693
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 5: and the thing comes up and it's like the flabbergaster.

694
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 4: Totally goofy name.

695
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 5: And so yeah, just like being able to to this

696
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 5: day press up, down, left right be a start and

697
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 5: do like the Goosebumps Hopscotch is just like it never

698
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 5: gets old.

699
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 4: It's just the wildest thing.

700
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

701
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: I think it's a volume four that they have your

702
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: signature right game, get a game.

703
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: It's pretty exciting, but it's hard to pull off.

704
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

705
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 7: They got you in two.

706
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: They got you into Yeah, the one legged fade away,

707
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: the wide open layup, how do you how do you

708
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: do that one be it's pretty simple. The Book of Goosebumps,

709
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that was a real thing. This guy

710
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: talking about like he comes up with moves in his head,

711
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: writes him down and then pulls them off. I'm like, yeah, sure,

712
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: sounds like a great story. And then you guys actually

713
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: show the Book of Goosebumps.

714
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: Does he still have it?

715
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: Are there still moves somewhere deep in there that he

716
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: could pull out eventually?

717
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: Oh? Man? Yeah.

718
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 6: We went to Edmonton to film his his portion of

719
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 6: the documentary and we're like, yo, what you saw the

720
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 6: the book? And he still got it, like it's up

721
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 6: on his shelf. It's all like torn up and stuff.

722
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 6: But yeah, he's got all his movies written out. And

723
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 6: the way he writes him out is so funny. It's

724
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 6: just like, first I'm gonna start dribbling, and shit, do

725
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 6: some low dribbles, get the guy to reach, and then

726
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 6: I'm gonna jump over him. Like it's just yeah, he

727
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 6: writes it down exactly.

728
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 4: It's more than that. It's like it's like, then I

729
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 4: wave to the crowd.

730
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 5: Maybe there's a girl sitting courtside.

731
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: Maybe me and.

732
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 5: John come up and do that handshake that we once

733
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 5: did at Bear Creek Park.

734
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 4: Like every movie is just like an essay, that's amazing.

735
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: It looks like a legitimate religious text, like the pull

736
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: out the book and it's all tattered. What an incredible scene.

737
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw this about a month ago. I've

738
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: been trying to dribble as low as these guys can.

739
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: It's impossible, Like the ball is bouncing an inch off

740
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: the ground or something like that. The craft to it,

741
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: I think is amazing, And between how much you're going

742
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: out and filming and how much practice has to go

743
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: into it.

744
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: This was basically your entire lives.

745
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 6: It feels like at the time, Yeah, I mean that's

746
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 6: all we wanted to do is make make movies and

747
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 6: play basketball. And the fact that we got to hang

748
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 6: around these guys who are so good at it, it

749
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 6: just made things a lot more exciting.

750
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: So it's definitely all we wanted to do.

751
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 5: There's always they were definitely practicing way, way, way more,

752
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 5: like every time the camera stopped rolling. Like you said,

753
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 5: I've never seen anybody else do the Johnny Blaze finger

754
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 5: dribble stuff to this day.

755
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: I was I was like trying to do anything where

756
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: I was bouncing the ball that low off the ground

757
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: and I'm just rolling the ball, which I mean sometimes

758
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: they were doing that as well, but yeah, it was.

759
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: There's some wild stuff to see in here, and I've

760
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: seen and I heard you guys say after we watched

761
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: the screening, there's more stuff that people still haven't seen.

762
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: So do you think we'll see it eventually?

763
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

764
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 6: I mean the N three right now is in a

765
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 6: file on jared laptop. This says twenty twenty three taxes.

766
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 6: We're trying not to get anyone to like hack into

767
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 6: his computer and steal it.

768
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

769
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 6: No, We're trying to plan anoutic day in Vancouver sometime

770
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 6: in the summer, and I think the idea there is

771
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 6: to maybe do like an open run or some sort

772
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 6: of three on three tournament and then do like a

773
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 6: big worldwide release and just have everyone in the city

774
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 6: come and watch it.

775
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 7: Very cool, amazing, amazing stuff. This is I'm just overwhelmed,

776
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 7: as you say, all the stuff that we watched. I mean,

777
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 7: congress to you guys. This is this is great that

778
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 7: it's been released worldwide now after like twenty years. People

779
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 7: have been waiting for this. People have been waiting, and

780
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 7: you guys called it like street Basketball's greatest brotherhood. You've

781
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 7: explained it as that and it feels like that I

782
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 7: want to know, maybe because I just want to be

783
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 7: a little bit angry right now. There were some people

784
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 7: who who didn't like the way they played basketball, which

785
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 7: is very very strange. How much how much hate or

786
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 7: was there any hate in Vancouver when these guys were

787
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 7: doing their thing and being awesome frankly, Oh.

788
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean definitely starting off in the It sounds anachronistic,

789
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 5: but the message boards were just like a constant stream

790
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 5: of hate.

791
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 4: I mean, especially back then in Vancouver.

792
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 5: I think there wasn't nearly the same kind of visibility

793
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 5: for black people.

794
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 4: There's less black.

795
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 5: People in Vancouver than there is in other parts of

796
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 5: North America, I think, so there was tons of racism

797
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 5: that these guys were dealing with in terms of and

798
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 5: connecting the kind of racism against black people and people

799
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 5: of color to the style of play.

800
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 4: I think was really really common.

801
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 5: And then there's way more lots of like you know,

802
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 5: kind of classic streetball beef and come out and all

803
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 5: destroy you and you know you're not gonna be able to

804
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 5: pull those moves on me and that kind of stuff,

805
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 5: which was always lovely because we could go film it

806
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 5: and watch those guys get proven wrong.

807
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: So you said you've got the Knatto three is somewhere

808
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: on your computer. I have to imagine the editing process

809
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: is a little bit different than when you did one

810
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: and two.

811
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 5: It's kind of the same. I think, like because we

812
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 5: needed to put it together before. Before the first the

813
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 5: screening of the dock, we screened like a rough cut

814
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 5: of the dock to all the crew, and then we

815
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 5: screened the Nautic three and it was like the night

816
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 5: before trying to finish it. And it's still just like

817
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 5: you know, Kirk is like, what if the basketball goes

818
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 5: through the graffiti bars? And then and then he's like,

819
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm the more technical person in this. So

820
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 5: he's like he like goes to bed and then he

821
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 5: wakes up. It's like, yeah, it looks okay. But I

822
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 5: think it's just like, yeah, we just put all the

823
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 5: clips on the timeline and kind of yell at what

824
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 5: we think is is. I mean, back then, I think

825
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 5: there was a lot of effects and like I said,

826
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,959
Speaker 5: graffiti bars, And now I think in a good way,

827
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 5: like street basketball, editing has moved way more into just

828
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 5: like let's watch it slow mo, let's see it from

829
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 5: a couple of angles and watch it hit as hard

830
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 5: as possible.

831
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 4: So Nautic three is a lot more simple and it's

832
00:37:59,480 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 4: just full.

833
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 5: Of but I'd say there's like a dozen moves, like

834
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 5: full moves that people have.

835
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 4: Never seen before.

836
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 5: Rory handstands over people's heads, goosebump stuff that just like

837
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 5: it's cool to think. I don't think any of that

838
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 5: stuff's ever been done, and it's been twenty years. And

839
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 5: then King Handles has like this era of style where

840
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 5: he's doing these bendy knee things that even he doesn't.

841
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 4: Really do anymore.

842
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 5: I'm blabbing about it. I'm just I'm very excited for

843
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 5: people to see this stuff. Most of it hasn't been seen.

844
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 5: I can't wait to see it. And it must be

845
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 5: just such like a fun thing for you too. I

846
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 5: know you've stayed friends since then, but to actually like

847
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 5: get to work on a project and go down memory

848
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 5: laying together like, oh yeah, remember when we did this,

849
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 5: Because there's so many scenes in the documentary where you're

850
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 5: just like traveling around. You had to drive places to

851
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 5: get to Seattle, right like to.

852
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: Get to the and one tour hasn't been fun being

853
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: together like working on something that you're gonna be put

854
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: out to the world once again.

855
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

856
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 6: I mean Jared and I have been best friend since

857
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 6: grade seven and I think it's in what six or

858
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 6: seven years now since he moved up to Toronto, So

859
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 6: we still talk on the phone every other day, but

860
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 6: I don't get to see.

861
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 3: Him as much.

862
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 6: So the fact that we got to work on this

863
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 6: project together and also like kind of put a close

864
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 6: on the whole the whole Knottic eraage. Do the documentary,

865
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 6: finish the Knoutic three. It's been been awesome.

866
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: You said, you're watching it back and you're seeing how

867
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: you know, it's the and one days, so everybody's wearing

868
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: a lot longer shorts. Did it make you long for

869
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: the days of baggy clothing on the basketball court?

870
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't.

871
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 5: I never understood how everyone was able to do all

872
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 5: those tricks with those shirts like that Kirk used to

873
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 5: did a move. Kirk invented a move called the blindfold

874
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 5: that you don't see in the documentary where he he

875
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 5: like doesn't move on the guy that puts the shirt

876
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 5: over the guy's head. So like, you can't do that

877
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 5: in tight shirts, but you needed.

878
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: Baggy shirt for a lot of the ball under the

879
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: shirt moves. But man, Kirk, you got to a move

880
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: with a nickname. I'm pretty impressed.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and Hot Sauce actually did it in one of

882
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Speaker 6: the Come on One tours, and so I'm going to

883
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 6: take credit for that. I got to move stolen off

884
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Speaker 6: me by Hot Sauce. So that's my claim to fame

885
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Speaker 6: in the street ball world.

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Speaker 2: That's not bad. It's not bad. Better than being nickname

887
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: the turnover machine.

888
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: I think, come on, I'm not trying to break you

889
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: guys up or anything, but it seems to be a

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00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: one race street here.

891
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: What else?

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00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: What else should we know about the movie? I know

893
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: there is a there's a great, very small No Dunks cameo,

894
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: and I'm curious to hear whose coffee mug was it?

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00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 3: Yeah? That was mine.

896
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, we've been fans of you guys since

897
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 6: the Basketball Jones days, and while we were making this movie,

898
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 6: you're like, imagine, like we get on No Dunks and

899
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 6: and you know, just chop it up with you guys.

900
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 6: So how can we increase our odds. Let's a little

901
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 6: easter egg now here we are.

902
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: Well, it paid off, Yeah, paid off.

903
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: That was like opening up the trunk to a full

904
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: case of.

905
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: And one shoes.

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00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: For us, we might we're in a movie now, like

907
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: we were on top of the World Slam magazine. Up next,

908
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: just a picture of that lug. But guys, this is

909
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: awesome this movie. I think you got to see it

910
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: if you're a basketball fan. For me, it was like

911
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: it was almost a Hoop Dreams version of the End

912
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: One Mixtape tour and just seeing the progress of all

913
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: the characters that are there, seeing how Joey traverses his

914
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: career in the NBA, seeing disaster, the way he joins

915
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: the crew, the way he falls on hard times, the

916
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: way he's able to get reintegrated. We mentioned the stuff

917
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: with Fresh there's so much cool stuff. There's heroes. I

918
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: don't really think there's villains. I know there's a little

919
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: controversy between you guys, But is there anything else you

920
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: want to tell us about Handle with.

921
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 4: Care I gotta just plug.

922
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 5: Joey does basketball camps around the country and around the world,

923
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 5: and you definitely should get your kid to tet have

924
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 5: King Handles, teach them how to ball handle and his

925
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 5: fundamentals are super strong, and it's like the funnest thing

926
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 5: in the world to watch a fourteen year old girl

927
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 5: with like a really sweet in and out just kill somebody.

928
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 4: So highly recommend Joey's Camps Other than that.

929
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 6: Kirk, Yeah, I mean, like like you said earlier, tra

930
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 6: it's available on the Apple TV and Prime YouTube, Vimeo internationally,

931
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 6: Vimeo internationally. So yeah, we're just looking forward to people

932
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 6: finally geting to watch it, and I think I would

933
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 6: feel sad if we didn't.

934
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 5: Just like, we invited you guys out to this screening

935
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 5: in Indianapolis, and we're really excited about it as really

936
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 5: really big fans, and we're sitting there in the theater

937
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 5: and when you guys walked in, the whole crew walked in,

938
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 5: it was just like it was a really really powerful moment.

939
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 5: I just feel like there's a lot of like no

940
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 5: Dunks fans out there that I would love to say

941
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 5: like that.

942
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 4: Meeting you guys and hanging out with you guys a

943
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 4: little bit at.

944
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 5: The screening, it was just like the people that you

945
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 5: seem like on screen and on the podcast, I feel

946
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 5: like you seem like you really genuinely are and it's

947
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 5: just I don't know, it's cool to meet your hero

948
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: sometimes and thank you for that, and thank you for this.

949
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: Oh well, thanks for saying that. Y'all are very kind.

950
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: And if you ever want to look through thousands and

951
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: thousands of hours of behind the scenes footage we've had

952
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: phones for like the entirety of the career that we've

953
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: built here. If you want to go through a ton

954
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: of videos of Leelli's practice in his handles, I've got them.

955
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: If you want to see a task hook shot, I've

956
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: got it.

957
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: We're down to making No Dunks documentary.

958
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, not kidding, Like, let's let's actually make this happen

959
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 5: a really sick story. Yeah you think we're joking, but

960
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 5: like when the anniversary comes, call us.

961
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 4: Because I think we can make a cool movie together for.

962
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: Real exciting times.

963
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: But you guys are the actual people on top right now,

964
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: please go check out with hand handle with care. The

965
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: legend of the Notic Streetball Crew. Kirk, you said you

966
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: run the Instagram, but Notics street Ball. I think that's

967
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: a must follow as well, because once you watch this movie,

968
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to see everything that happen once again.

969
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, hit up the hit up the Nottics Freetball

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00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 6: on on Instagram.

971
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: Guys, Thank you so much for joining us.

972
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Speaker 1: We'll be in touch about the future documentary coming here.

973
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 4: You just said it. It's gonna happen that unfortunate the world.

974
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 4: And we'll be back.

975
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: As well on Monday for more podcasts about NBA basketball.

976
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: But until then, check out Handle with care and we'll

977
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: see you later