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Speaker 1: piss off? Today? And that's why you're listening Park because

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Speaker 1: you want to know Greg is gonna get angry neck

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Speaker 1: spoiler right, it's Mark from the Chris Wesley podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: It's around the NFL. I'm Dan Hansas, Gregg is here,

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Speaker 1: Mark is here. Week fift is here. Nailed it, perfectly

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Speaker 1: done with the sound and the music ending just as

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Speaker 1: used as you spoke the most to say that you

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Speaker 1: guys aren't gonna get me mad today. Yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 1: hard to get you mad. I've done it, but it's

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Speaker 1: not easy to do at least out tidy you. Uh, okay,

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Speaker 1: this is a good one. It's different now the bye

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Speaker 1: There's not three weeks left in the season, there's four.

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Speaker 1: Because this is the biggest season ever. Mark Sessler, it

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Speaker 1: I totally support the extra week. Uh it's it's a joy.

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Speaker 1: And don't forget the runner up in the slogan for

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Speaker 1: the season, football was family. Um so we have four

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Speaker 1: tried out. Um anyway, so yes, no more buys. So

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Speaker 1: we got thirty two teams in action this week, however,

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Speaker 1: different setup. We have two Saturday games. We have the

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Speaker 1: And UM, I have to say the firing of Urban Meyer. Um,

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Speaker 1: Like is does anything top? And I texted Steve Weich

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Speaker 1: And that's where it gets interesting, Mark, and interesting in

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have said this a month ago, but I

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Speaker 1: think they're a better matchup then the Bills are for

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Speaker 1: New England. I think they can they're a better type

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Speaker 1: of team to to deal with New England. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, Greg, the Colts, despite being seven and six

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00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 1: and not in first place in their division, are along

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Speaker 1: with the Patriots, in the top ten of the Power rankings.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, guys, and that's why I think because

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Speaker 1: I have had reservations about the Pats. But if they do,

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Speaker 1: I have the Pats at five. But if the Pats,

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Speaker 1: if the Pats beat the Cults on the road in

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Speaker 1: this spot, not only will I get on the same

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Speaker 1: page as you, I will apologize to you. Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: not seeking not only celebrate a lock win in a

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Speaker 1: big spot. I will also personally apologize to you on

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Speaker 1: Sunday show that just for a bigger game for the Colts,

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00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: it's a big game for both. It's a bigger game

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Speaker 1: for the Colts. They as good as they are, they

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Speaker 1: risk missing the way offs here with the Cardinals coming

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00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: up next. And this bus is Dan centric, you know

447
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: what I think, because they asked Belichick about hard Knocks,

448
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: and you know, of course he doesn't want to be

449
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Speaker 1: on it, but you know he wants to author like

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Speaker 1: a really ugly episode for the Cults. All right. Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Football, Saints at Buccaneers Raymond James Stadium. The Saints

452
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Speaker 1: coming off a win over the Jets. Not overly impressive,

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Speaker 1: but they did get the job done. I believe it

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Speaker 1: was thirty two nine something along those lines. Uh. And

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00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: now a much bigger test here against the Bucks. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Coming off that big overtime win against San Francisco, this

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Speaker 1: is another not San Francisco. Who did they beat last week?

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Speaker 1: The Bills? The Bills, the Bills, of course. Um, this

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Speaker 1: is a big test for New Orleans. Do you think Mark,

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Speaker 1: that the Bucks have or the Saints have any chance

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Speaker 1: to kind of hang in this battle considering their quarterback situation.

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Speaker 1: Not really, not in the way that we've seen where

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Speaker 1: they've you know, they've beaten Brady three consecutive regular season

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Speaker 1: games when they were healthy, when they had Drew Brees

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Speaker 1: a year ago. Um. I mean I would have even

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Speaker 1: given them a chance they beat them earlier this year,

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Speaker 1: and they seem to have Brady's number. I mean, there

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Speaker 1: is something to it, just if you look at the

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Speaker 1: recent history. But the way the Bucks are playing right now,

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Speaker 1: and we've said it before, it's like they're so precise

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Speaker 1: and so successful that they're almost an afterthought and sort

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Speaker 1: of dull. I mean, there's six and oh at home.

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Speaker 1: Their home and road splits are pretty incredible. They've scored

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Speaker 1: thirty plus in each of those six and oh home games.

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Speaker 1: The only other team that's ever done that is a

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Speaker 1: two thousand and seven Patriots. I just look at like

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Speaker 1: the way that certain players are heating up. Leonard four

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Speaker 1: Nett is ninth in the league and scrimmage yards. He

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Speaker 1: looks like a player that we've not seen in Leonard

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Speaker 1: Fournette's body in a long long time. Chris Gotten has

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Speaker 1: twenty five catches in the last two games. Gronkowski only

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Speaker 1: played five snaps in that week that they lost to

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Speaker 1: the Saints. We're getting a different Gronkowski right now. I

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Speaker 1: know the defense is a little banged up and up

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Speaker 1: and down, but I mean the Saints are a mash unit,

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Speaker 1: so I don't I think the floor has fallen out.

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Speaker 1: I I struggled with this one because you mentioned it.

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Speaker 1: The last mountain for Brady to climb in Tampa is

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Speaker 1: beating the Saints in the regular season and even having

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Speaker 1: a clean game against the Saints period, because if you

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Speaker 1: remember that playoff game against the Saints, they didn't do

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Speaker 1: anything in the second half. They were totally stymied and

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Speaker 1: it was their defense. The Bucks defense that was were

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Speaker 1: just marauders and would not let Drew Brees get back

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Speaker 1: into that game. But but the but the Saints defense

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Speaker 1: for how many games the eight quarters has been like,

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Speaker 1: you know, more than that sixteen quarters has been like

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Speaker 1: incredibly competitive against this team. And they are a little

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Speaker 1: healthier than they were. They're healthy on the back end,

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Speaker 1: um defensively, you had Marcus Davenport back last week. You

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Speaker 1: hope you have Cam Jordan's back from COVID. So it's

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Speaker 1: definitely uh, wish wishful think thinking potentially, but I I

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Speaker 1: think they will make this a fun Sunday night game.

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Speaker 1: And there is something about this Saints team I haven't

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Speaker 1: totally given up on that. They're just that they're more

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Speaker 1: than the sum of their parts. Camara being back is

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Speaker 1: so huge. I think Taysom Hill actually does give them

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Speaker 1: something at quarterback that you definitely weren't getting with Simeon.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at the Bucks run defense, which

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Speaker 1: arians had that things like nobody runs on us people

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Speaker 1: have the last month. So that's just the facts that

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Speaker 1: the facts are, like their numbers, everything about the rush

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Speaker 1: defense hasn't been great. That's who the Saints are. I

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Speaker 1: would love it if they're tacked. You know, if Ramcheck

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Speaker 1: was back for this game, I don't think he will,

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Speaker 1: so they're they're they're not healthy on offense. I know

517
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Speaker 1: Deante Harris got suspended. We never mentioned that he's like

518
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: their one explicit player. It's like, it's ridiculous. But I

519
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: think their defense can make this fun. I gotta keep up.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like what I've seen from Taysom

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Speaker 1: Hill in these two weeks, especially since the finger injury. Um.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was pretty bad for most of that

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Speaker 1: Jets game, and a lot of his numbers came um

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Speaker 1: on a late touchdown run that didn't matter, and I

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Speaker 1: don't even know if the Jets were playing at that point, Um,

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Speaker 1: but really the way the ball was coming out of

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Speaker 1: his hand, UM was troubling. Now, that was up in

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Speaker 1: Northern New Jersey in December, so maybe playing down in Tampa,

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Speaker 1: the finger will react differently. But I just haven't seen

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Speaker 1: enough from him, and plus the fact that he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of real high octane weapons to throw to.

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Speaker 1: You're not a big Nick Vanette fan. I mean their

533
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Speaker 1: number one receiver is Nick Vanette. What is happening? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I like little Jordan Humphrey. Obviously he's out to another

535
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Speaker 1: in Geez, So we don't have a little Jordan either.

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Speaker 1: I think there's only Camara makes them a team to

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Speaker 1: reckon with. But if there, if the Bolsa Sons is

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00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: able to negate or neutralize Camara, this is gonna be

539
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Speaker 1: a very one sided game. I kind of see this

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Speaker 1: one getting away from the Saints as much as I'm

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see it great because I think the

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00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: Saints are always fun to be in the mix. I

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Speaker 1: wish this game is at the super don't put it

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00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 1: that will be yeah, we'll be in the film thing.

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00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: Maybe it is wishful thinking, but they were ten and

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Speaker 1: a half point favorites, and I was with you guys

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00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: initially thinking that this is their time to like show

548
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: that they're just gonna wipe the floor. But it's not

549
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: like they weren't trying in the other Saints game. Dennis

550
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: Allen in this defense is just good. Well. One of

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Speaker 1: the Saints games was the first Tom Brady in a

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Speaker 1: Bucks uniform. I'm not saying I throw that out, but

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00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: I kind of throw it out, and I just I

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00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: think this is a different situation. I mean, Brady talked

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Speaker 1: about in his press conference on Thursday that he still

556
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: burns with annoyance about the interceptions he threw against the

557
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: Saints this season, so it's like he doesn't he that

558
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: doesn't wash away from him. I think he's determined to

559
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: white board the way of the narrative we're talking about

560
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: that he can't beat this team. And by the way,

561
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: there is a path to the playoffs for the Saints

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00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: even if they don't win this week. I mean, it'd

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00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: be nice to win this week obviously be a huge

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00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: lim for them, but they really have to find a

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Speaker 1: way to split one of the next two weeks at

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Speaker 1: Tampa home Dolphins. Okay, win one of those games, then

567
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: beat Carolina and Atlanta and to end the season. Bang,

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00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 1: you're nine and eight and that could probably gets you

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Speaker 1: in in the NFC. So find a way to win

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Speaker 1: either this week or next week, and then take care

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00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: of your business. So the Saints still have a path,

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00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: but this week is gonna be very tough. Finally, Monday

573
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Speaker 1: Night Football, before we get to the draft, we have

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vice games and intense preamble to get to

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Speaker 1: the draft to oh yeah, it's a nice build. The

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00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, the team of zoos til coming off another

577
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: insane game, they really did hit peak Vikings. I think,

578
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: but you never know. There's been a lot of peaks

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00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: this season for the Vikings in terms of ridiculousness. Um

580
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: going up twenty nine nothing at home in the third

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Speaker 1: quarter against the Steelers and still needing to make a

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00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: stop on the last play of the game. I mean,

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00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive, even by their standards. That was pretty awesome. Like,

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00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: they almost lost that game straight up, Um, but they didn't.

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00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: They won. They stopped the two games slide, and now

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00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: they get the Bears, who are four and nine, who

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00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: have one win since October t Um, Greg, this makes

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00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: sense as a game that Minnesota is gonna take care

589
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: of business, but they're not really a take care of

590
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,239
Speaker 1: business team. They're not especially on the you know, this

591
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: game is on the road, it's in the division, familiar opponents.

592
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: The the Bears will be without a lot of their coaches,

593
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: their coordinators all got put on the COVID list. Matt

594
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: Naggie is still there though, so I don't know though

595
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: it's like a good thing a bad thing. But the

596
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: defense for chicagomm has really fallen off a cliff, Like

597
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: if Justin Fields was out there playing with like or

598
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: even the twenty nineteen Bears defense, Like this team could

599
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: be competitive, but it's a really bad defense right now.

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Speaker 1: And that's why. Also, because you know, I'm not feeling

601
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: like totally alive, and I just need to feel something

602
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: in life. And nothing makes you feel something a little

603
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: more than locking up the Vikings in a small spot

604
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: like that, I'm safe. That's where I was going if

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00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: I if I move off the Browns, I will be

606
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: going Vikings. You come join me that maybe I should

607
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: just do it. Get out of that COVID? Do you want?

608
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: Do you want? Your football weekend? And it's a long

609
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: one to begin with the law with a lock that

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00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: goes south now, I mean in an Island game and

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00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: you're dying watching like why did I Because it's not

612
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: gonna be here's the thing with locking up the Vikings,

613
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: like you just are accepting that with four minutes to go,

614
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: You're nervous, You're it's not gonna be easy. You're just

615
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: and you know what, I've been riding this all season

616
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: long with him. Why don't we just turn up the

617
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: stakes a little bit. I'm gonna move my lock over

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00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: to Minnesota. It just feels right. I like the matchup

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Speaker 1: for him. I think they're a far superior team to

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Speaker 1: the Bears. I think Dalvin Cook going from carted off

621
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: the field to two yards rushing again speaks to what

622
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: a special player he is. Adam Feeling maybe back and

623
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: that's a big thing for them because he I think

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00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins struggles against Pittsburgh and he was not good

625
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: at all against the Steelers. A lot of that connected

626
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: to Adam Feeland being missing. I think it really makes

627
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: him more uncomfortable as a quarterback. And as much as

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00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: I I want don't want to say like Cousins, but

629
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Speaker 1: as much as I think Cousins gets a bad rap,

630
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: sometimes when you look at what he's able to do,

631
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: he is kind of a guy that needs things to

632
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: be in order around him to do his bidding and

633
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: take Feeling his dude his safety blanket out, and that's

634
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: been an issue. I think it's just the vikings, to

635
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: your point, are such a conundrum to analyze because we

636
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: did the third the TNF recap, and I had all

637
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: these ideas when at halftime they had played such a

638
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: complete game against Pittsburgh and out yardage them three forty nine. Uh,

639
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: they held Pittsburgh to twenty passing yards but then the

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Speaker 1: second half was such a collapse. And you look at

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00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: a team that since Week night and Week nine in

642
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: Minnesota is bottom five and points per game, allowed, yards

643
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: per play, total yards, and opposer passing Rading's like the

644
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: defense that I'm picking, that I'm really locking them up

645
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: for is that I kind of have faith they are

646
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: healthier on defense now than they were generally healthy and

647
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: Zimmer cooking up like a rookie quarters Pittsburgh. It was

648
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's best half of football and offense in the second

649
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: half there, which is not a small fear. Here's my fear.

650
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: And cut to Monday night and I'll get tweets about it, like, oh,

651
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: you were right, Dan Will. This will be one of

652
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: those games where you're waiting for their offense to wake up,

653
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, they had two first downs in

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00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: the first quarter and then all of a sudden, wait,

655
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: wait a second, why are they up seven six at halftime?

656
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: Wake up? Wake up, wake up? And then they have

657
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: some type of horrible, hideous field has a six dyrd

658
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: touching rushing touchdown exactly like I do. I we take

659
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: this on and Greg is still in the distance in

660
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: the race, but as someone who's tied with I understand this.

661
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm inviting a level of anxiety in my life that

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00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: maybe doesn't need to be there. Holiday season. I got

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00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: the in laws coming in for a week's already. We're

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Speaker 1: just gonna we're gonna fire it up and see if

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00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: the old ticker can take it. All right, let's take

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00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: a break and then hit the draft. All right, welcome back.

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00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: We have some news developing newsrom Tom brol Hall. We

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00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: have a trade. We have a trade in the draft

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Speaker 1: to an ounce, and it involves the old loser, Dan Zee.

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00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: That's me, damn a quiet storm. Mark. You were slated

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00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: to pick first overall, but you have agreed to terms

672
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: on the following trade. Mark surrenders his first overall pick

673
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Speaker 1: and the seventh overall pick in exchange for the third

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Speaker 1: overall pick and the fourth overall pick in today's draft.

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00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: So Mark unprecedented will be drafting three and six. Dan

676
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: will now be drafting one, seven and nine. I'm a

677
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: little worried about Mark here, just like the competitive spirit

678
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: or just like what's going You're a little like urban

679
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: Meyer not knowing his safety. It didn't seem like you

680
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: were that involved in this trade. You were allowing any

681
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: terms that Dan would dictate. I was. I was trying

682
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: to explain it to him, but he didn't seem to care.

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00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: He was just like, take whatever you want. It was

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Speaker 1: it was it was can I tell you why, like

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00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: real quick, like when you there's not a lot of

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Speaker 1: great games outside of the ones we just discussed. The

687
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Speaker 1: eye in games and I can look at one or

688
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: two and say I want that, but like everyone in

689
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: the office is going to be watching that game. So

690
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: it's like it's not a singular experience. I enjoy the

691
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: community aspect of it too, but it's more just like

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Speaker 1: Dan what Dan was like, Wow, I want to like

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00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: I have an eye, my eye on something. It's like

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Speaker 1: take it. I don't want my You're right. You're right

695
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: though that in terms of how the draft of the

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Speaker 1: trade works, I have no idea where I'm picking and

697
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: don't remember any of it's it's it sets you up well.

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00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: Um in terms of no one's ever had three picks

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00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: in the first six overall. So if you have a

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00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: game plan here, it's really gonna come. It's what Sashi

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00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: Brown would do. That was the developing news out of

702
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: the Chris Westling podcast. Studio. It was like it was

703
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: like Belichick when he traded the second round pick Verson

704
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: new or whatever. Just take whatever you want, think whatever

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00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: you want. How happy I am on Sunday is determines

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00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: how well the trade was. Okay, we will see alright.

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Speaker 1: So with the first overall pick in the week around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast Draft, I will take the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 1: at home against the Tennessee Titans. Um listen, the Steelers

710
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: are interesting. We were just talking about the Vikings, but

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00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if Steelers are interesting. But as I

712
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: said it on the Thursday Pod, they're kind of like

713
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: a zombie that doesn't know it's dead. It's staggering around.

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00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: No one's no one's pulled off the kill shot yet.

715
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: You know everyone knows classic zombie, you gotta do a

716
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: shot to the head or it's gonna keep coming. No

717
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: one's put the shot in the head yet. And the

718
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: Titans could they be that team? Titans fans all fired up.

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00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: We're nine and four, we swept the Colts. Why are

720
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: the Colts eight in the power rankings and we're twelve?

721
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: Because you haven't been a good team for weeks? Because

722
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: you're one for the first time in a month last

723
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,959
Speaker 1: week against the And that's not your fault. You're playing

724
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: your schedule. But I don't have to be impressed with

725
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: nine and four when you see how limited this team

726
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: continues to be on the off pensive side of the ball. Now,

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00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: is that selling them short in terms of what they

728
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: bring as a whole. Yes, but this is also an

729
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: offensive league right now, and the fact that they struggle

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00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: to score points week after week after after week matters

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00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: to me. I know it was a positive UM Sunday

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Speaker 1: because you've got the positive Derrick Henry news, you got

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00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: Julio Jones back, you got the win. Um. But at

734
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Speaker 1: the same time, do I think they're gonna win in

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00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh with Pittsburgh in a desperate situation. I don't. You don't.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the Steelers win this game. It's

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00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: a tough one because it's a real test of like

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00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: the Mike Rabel magic kind of what he does well.

739
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: They've been greater than the some of their parts. Defensively,

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00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: I think they come up. They're a good game plan team.

741
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: They're very different every week. That's how they can have

742
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: a game like the one they had against the Rams,

743
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: and you would think that they'd be able to expose

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00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: some of the Pittsburgh offensive problems like Mike Zimmer did

745
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: a week ago. But man, are they slow on offensive.

746
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: Julio doesn't have that juice the running. You know, the

747
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: running game was back a little last week. But they're

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00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: They're just so slow. It's just like two really slow teams.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea who's gonna win this game, but man,

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00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: I love that under like. I just don't think. I

751
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: just don't think either of these teams is getting over

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00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: sixteen points. I just don't. I think if it happens,

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00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: it's it would have to look a little bit like

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00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: last week, where you get a lot of contributions from

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00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: the defense. I mean that game was twenty to nothing,

756
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: it felt like sixty to nothing, and they got just

757
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: enough from their offense, guys like donte Foreman and it's

758
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: it's it's a preseason roster trying to copple By and

759
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: Julio Jones is not saving them for so. Grave Digger

760
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: Um obviously Grave Digger Titans Film Room. Check check out

761
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: his podcast. This guy knows his stuff with Tennessee, certainly

762
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: knows more about the team than I do, so tell

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00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: me what I'm missing when I kind of disregard your

764
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: team on some level. Well, I don't know what you're

765
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: necessarily missing. I'd like to just say to all Titans

766
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: fans on Twitter, there's no need to come after Dan

767
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: for his Oh they could bring it for our rankings.

768
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: What about the BTS fans they also have been coming

769
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: to Dan's a little worried about that. That's a little

770
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: that's actually an army. I don't know if I have

771
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: any sway over over what they think, but very in

772
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: a nice way, because Grave Digger is a really nice guy.

773
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: Um replied to something Titans related on Twitter that I

774
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: posted yesterday, and then some other Titans fan rolled in

775
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: right behind Grave Digger and was just like you Dan,

776
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: all right, nice knowing you anyway, Grave Digger, But do

777
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: you like like the Julio Jones coming back? That's fine,

778
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: but you kind of need a J. Brown? What else

779
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: does this team need? Do you think to get back

780
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: to where a team that really could go against anybody

781
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: in the a f C. Yeah, I think getting Derrick

782
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: Henry and a J. Brown back will be huge. I

783
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: don't know if it's necessarily that simple, because I I'm

784
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: still concerned watching the Titans about the past protection. It

785
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: feels like line is stunt all year. Tannehill is taking

786
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: and this happened last year, but it would be when

787
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: he'd connect on like a forty five yard bomb. He's

788
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: just getting Harris spect. That's where they love him. They

789
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: love him in that locker room because then but the

790
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: offensive line, the disparity between run blocking and pass blocking

791
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: is really just astounding to me because they run blocked

792
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: very well, but then they can't pass protect. It's like

793
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: one person loses a one on one matchup where they

794
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: leave a tight end with the opponent's best pass rusher

795
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: for some reason and he gets beat one on one

796
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: and like Julio Jones was wide open down the field

797
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: on I think it was a like a post corner

798
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: kind of fake out route and Tannehill could have hit him,

799
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 1: but he was immediately under pressure and sacked on the play,

800
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: and so that explosive has gone. So the offense is

801
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: not producing explosive plays at all. But that matches up

802
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 1: well with the Steelers defense because they have struggled against

803
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: the run for a while. We saw the Vikings light

804
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: them up. And there is something about this Titans team

805
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: and I think it's it's some sort of similar d

806
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: n A that Frabel is a good coach. You can't

807
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: exactly see exactly why, but they are greater. Uh. Then

808
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: there's some of their parts. And they've been motivated all

809
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: year ever since Urban Meyer, you know, came on to

810
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: our show early in the season and just totally dismissed

811
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: the Titans before the year. The Titans are three offensive

812
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: players and Mike Brabel's haircut, I mean he did not

813
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: do his homework. I guess that's why I Brabel didn't

814
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: shake his hand after the game. That makes sense. How

815
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: unlikable we should I mean Urban Meyer totally unlikable, dude,

816
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: One last thing before we move on or have any

817
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: other Steelers conversation, got any plans this weekend? Justin let's go,

818
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm moving to the park. I'm moving apartments tomorrow, so

819
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: that's a huge plan. And get any help on that move,

820
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: um or to whose apartment are you christening the new

821
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: I probably will have have a friend over tomorrow. Yes,

822
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: but here, can I say something about this. I've been

823
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: thinking a lot about this. I feel like she would

824
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: not like it if I continued to talk about this

825
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: show and I think just like being being. I want

826
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: to be a good person and I want to like

827
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: feel good about myself. And I apologize to the reddit

828
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: audience who's very invested in this story. I will give you, guys,

829
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: and I mean they're not more invested than the host

830
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: of our show, who just clapped like a six year

831
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: old so excited when he heard the news. We just

832
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: we're just hanging out. We're just friends, and if that changes,

833
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: I will update you know what. I you know what,

834
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: I respect you as a man. I'm disappointed as a

835
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: podcast host because I wanted to have every step of

836
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: this relationship documented and now I have regrets. Did I

837
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: come on too strong in terms of getting information out

838
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: of just you have the regrets? Yeah, I mean I

839
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: think there's more what I do. Hope you provide an

840
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: update in time if you are allowed, because it still

841
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: feels very mysterious to me um and a Lorian. I

842
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: will I will provide and I'll tell you guys more

843
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: details off air. How about that. I also did tell you,

844
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: by the way, on our TNF recap that the Steelers

845
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: were impregnated by the baby with a baby of Satan's.

846
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: So good luck to you when joint. Seeing how that

847
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: goes from that. Okay, don't you recall that I I

848
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: do vaguely recall, but I do want to just say

849
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: now that it's officially hit his music by the way, Um,

850
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: he said, we can't talk anymore about it, at least

851
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: until he brings it up again. But you did catch that.

852
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: Let us a little nug She's coming over this weekend, well,

853
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: he said, a friend. But and do you see the

854
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: way I set it up? Was anybody you know? Are

855
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: you're christening the apartment? Well, she is coming over. Just

856
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: leave it at that. Yeah, I mean, I feel like

857
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: we're talking about it again. But no, no, but that

858
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: was his information. So I was just we're going out

859
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: with a bang, you know. So they all right, let's um, oh,

860
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: Steelers have got that. Let's move on. We gotta keep

861
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: moving this too. Many games all right up next in

862
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: the draft. Now again, this is a little funky now

863
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: because that a huge trade that went down, Greg, you

864
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: remain locked into that second overall spot. Very strange. Um,

865
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: you you did take the game. I was gonna take you.

866
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: You took the Romo game, So I will give you

867
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: kudos to that. I'm gonna take the Rams Seahawks in

868
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: the afternoon. Oh see, I guess I took Mark's pick here.

869
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: You did have the number one overall pick and you

870
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: provided no resistance. You do have three, four and six.

871
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: I I'm redoing the draft board as we speak, so

872
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean you had an opportunity to uh, to hold

873
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: onto that pick. It's a huge game because it knocks

874
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: the Seahawks out in my mind and in reality if

875
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: they lose this game, it's a lot for the Rams

876
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: to overcome in terms of their covid um situation. We

877
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: don't know if players like Jalen Ramsey will be back

878
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: that missed Monday nights game, but we do know a

879
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: lot more Rams players went on the covid list throughout

880
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: the week, two of their safeties, including Jordan Fuller who's

881
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: their defensive captain, and Odell Beckham. So that's a lot

882
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: to overcome. But we found out on Thursday that Tyler

883
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: lockets out for this game and Alex Collins, who's not

884
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: a big factors is also out, and I was thinking

885
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 1: of this kind of as his division battle. It's it's

886
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: a last stand for Seattle. It's the Rams trying to

887
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: solidify and show that they're going to the finish line,

888
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: kind of like the Bucks were a year ago and

889
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: it was really all about Russ Locket in d K

890
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: because the rest of the Seahawks team is just not special.

891
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: It's not special, but they got enough coaching and enough

892
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: like okay, enough rotational play that if those three dudes

893
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: just come out and ball out against the Rams defense,

894
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced it's amazing, especially not with the people

895
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: they're missing, Like you can go win that game and

896
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: now without lock It once again covid uh hurting our Sundays,

897
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: it really is much more. It's like we just found

898
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: that out before. I'm just saying, like, no, it's not that.

899
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: I also, I'm confused to because I thought they were

900
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: only testing UM vaccinated guys on Monday. So that's why

901
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: there's this like day luge of you know, positive results

902
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: money and Tuesday. But when we know lock It is Anyway,

903
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a team that UM has

904
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: come off a win this year that did more for

905
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 1: their image and I don't. I'm not saying that that

906
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: that it's hollow. It's totally tangible and real, but but people,

907
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean listening just to other people talking radio in general,

908
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: like the n L here in l A, like the

909
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: the vibe around the RAMS is suddenly so incredibly positive that, um,

910
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: this COVID thing really is the only thing that could

911
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: that could downgrade it to some degree. I mean, what

912
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: they did to the Cardinals, we talked about it. But

913
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: if you're gonna get games like that down the stretch,

914
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: where Matthew Stafford is as comfortable as he as he's

915
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: been in a RAMS outfit, and you've got your stars

916
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: playing the way they played against an excellent team in Arizona,

917
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: they appear relatively unstoppable. And I never I was gonna

918
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: lock this thing up for the Rams. I moved off

919
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: it just because of the shaky cook COVID thing. But

920
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: I can't think of too many more teams I have

921
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: faith in handling their business down the stretch. I just

922
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: have comment pretty quick turn. It is a quick turn

923
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: because because Kara Henderson tweeted at you that she didn't

924
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: like all the negative she's annoyed with me. Um. But

925
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: but even don't let that change your viewpoints. No, it isn't.

926
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: Because even even um, that came after I said something

927
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: positive about Aaron Donald, like she said Henderson, by the way,

928
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: is the wife of Rams general manager Less Snead, and

929
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: she's also a former colleague of ours in A very

930
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: nice woman, a wonderful person, and just I'm wondering if

931
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: your comments right now are directly tied to that. No,

932
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: I think like I was gonna lock up the Rams

933
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: because I I have no faith in the Seahawks. I

934
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: think that we're cooking up this narrative that they're still alive. Well,

935
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: because they're This is a tough place to go win.

936
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: But if they seriously, if they win this game with

937
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: sixteen players on the Rams, but if they win this game,

938
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: their scheduled the next two weeks, two very winnable games

939
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: before they play the Cardinals in week eighteen. I think

940
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: if they win this game, they get to week eighteen

941
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: with a chance to make that Does it not mean?

942
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: But I guess where I just I'm ready just to say,

943
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: like I do for some of these teams, like then

944
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: go do it. But it's like I'm not caught up

945
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: on the mathematical procedures. You gotta do it, you know,

946
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: you gotta do it. But they beat the forty nine ers.

947
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: This has been a terrible matchup for Pete Carroll versus

948
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh. Sean mcveigh's owned him in general, so it

949
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: would say a lot if they could go this is.

950
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: This is their season for Seattle because and not having Locket,

951
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: he's so important to what they do, and there's it's

952
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: been a very uh up and down season, to say

953
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: the least for DK Metcalf. He's banged up, I believe

954
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: as well on top of it, but him and Russell

955
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: Wilson have not been able to get on the same page. Wilson,

956
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys noticed and you're watching

957
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: that game UM on Sunday repeatedly feeding Metcalf, and you

958
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: know there's there's a human element to this, Like he

959
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 1: knows it's been a frustrating season for his most talented

960
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver, you could argue. So he's trying to get

961
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: him that touchdown force and throws and he just still

962
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: couldn't make it happen. I think he had twelve targets

963
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: UM in the game. Um. But uh, if Seattle loses

964
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: a game, good goodbye, you're five and nine. But yeah,

965
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: if they find a way to win this is there's

966
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: a very decent chance they are playing for a playoff

967
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: spot in week a team which no one would have predicted.

968
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: Ram just gotta take care of business. And Aaron Donald

969
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: we talked about it, how the way he took over

970
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 1: that Monday night game in a game they desperately needed

971
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: to change the vibe of their season. I got a

972
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: feeling he could kind of just snowball right into just

973
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: kicking the crap out of the Seattle offensive line and

974
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: making life hell for Russell Wilson. Can't you see Wilson

975
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: running for his life and and getn't taken down a

976
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: couple of times by the Rams have dominated the Russell

977
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: Wilson Seahawks. A Donald, Yeah, and even before Sean McVeigh

978
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: was there. So there's something to that, all right. Up

979
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: next in the draft, there he is with his first

980
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: pick as a result of that block, blockbuster trade mark Seessler. Well,

981
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: I love what I've gotten here. I'm going Atlanta at

982
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: San Francisco in that late game spot. I know Greg

983
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: wrinkled his nose. He doesn't like that game, but you

984
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: know what I like the two games prior to so

985
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm gay. I'm taking what i can buy it because

986
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: you've been pushed in the Atlanta matters narrative and in

987
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: San Francisco and the Atlanta matters narrative like this to me,

988
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: trying to find a way to better describe these two teams.

989
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: The seven and six Niners are eight in team d

990
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: v O A. The six and seven Falcons, who keep

991
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: hanging around are dead last and negative. Different. They just

992
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: look like it a lot, and then sometimes they don't

993
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: because it's like they're also a team that's five and

994
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 1: two on the road and have they were winless at home.

995
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: Their running game has improved over the last couple of weeks,

996
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: three straight a hundred plus games on the ground. We

997
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: saw them, you know, affect that Tampa game, Tampa Bay

998
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: game that way. Uh, they're getting a little bit, They're

999
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: getting a few more plays on defense in terms of

1000
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: some pick sixes and stuff. So they're just a strange team.

1001
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: And Arthur Smith did have this warning for the rest

1002
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: of the league, the Dean past a warning. Dean pas

1003
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: hasn't even scratched the surface, he said, of what he's

1004
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: going to install here. I'm not sure when we're installing,

1005
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: uh said stuff. Maybe that's in the off season, but

1006
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how you slow down the Niners if

1007
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: you get the version of George Kittle, Brandon Aiyuk and

1008
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. I would like to see Breed Samuel used

1009
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: a little bit more in the in the passing game,

1010
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: they've kind of gone away from that. But there's your

1011
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,479
Speaker 1: three dudes. And if you get the mistake free version

1012
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: of Jimmy, or at least keep it too low, they

1013
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: can take care of business here. Defensive coach, he I

1014
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: think they've been a really well coached team. I guess

1015
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: that's why we've enjoyed them. I think they've maximized what

1016
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: they can getting to six and Russell Gauge is suddenly

1017
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: a really good you know, fantasy players know this, but

1018
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 1: like a really good slot receiver. I don't think it's

1019
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: that flukey. But they've built an offense out of Matt Ryan,

1020
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: who's I gotta admit. Even though I enjoy what he's

1021
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: doing every week and I appreciate like his moxie, he

1022
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: is getting close to that Chad Pennington Peyton Manning line

1023
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: where the lack of arms strength is almost too much

1024
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: to overcome. There's six and four in their last ten games.

1025
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: They they bounce back after that, oh and three start

1026
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: butts have been rather consistent now for five weeks. It's

1027
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: it's a hard match of to imagine that the often

1028
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: to line, especially for San Francisco, just doesn't mow them over.

1029
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: And I'm with you, Mark, and I say this also

1030
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: is a Deebo Samuel fantasy owner. A little weird that

1031
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: there he was like breaking every receiving mark. He was

1032
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: ahead of Jerry Rice Pace for the first like nine

1033
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: weeks of the year as a wide receiver and it's

1034
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: almost like now he's been he had one catch last

1035
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: week and he's been moved into the game and may

1036
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess it's a little surprising that

1037
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: he's not more of a hybrid and now he's being

1038
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: used primarily as a running back. I think maybe health

1039
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: issues in the backfield play a role in that for sure,

1040
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: But um yeah, I just want to see what Kittle does.

1041
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: George Kittle, and he's banged up again, and that's just

1042
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: part of the thing with Kittle. As long as you

1043
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: can keep them healthy and upright, he's gonna change game

1044
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: plans because he became the first tight endeaver to have

1045
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: back to back fifty yard games touchdown and that and

1046
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: the best play I think in those two games, was

1047
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: that maybe not the best because man, he had a

1048
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: lot of it, but that third five play to keep

1049
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: the drive going and overtime, I think it was the

1050
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: play right before aus touchdown where jim E. G hit

1051
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: it into a tiny window. Jimmy G, who had a

1052
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: sub you know, a below average game even for Jimmy

1053
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 1: G until over time, had one of the best drives

1054
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: of his career doing things he doesn't normally do. Hitting

1055
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: the throw outside the numbers to the outside, hitting that

1056
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: third and five to Kittle unto the smallest window possible,

1057
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: and then they get the game winner with that. That

1058
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: was an awesome moment. I think for the forty nine,

1059
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: I think they keep rolling and are quite dangerous. I mean,

1060
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: Jimmy G also had a near picking over time that

1061
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: would have changed everything we're saying about Jimmy G. Was

1062
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: this week regulation. I think that that sports all right,

1063
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: let's take a break and then we'll be back. All right,

1064
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: here we go, Mark Slither, I got another game I want.

1065
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm beyond critique. I am going Cardinals at I don't

1066
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: need to spin anything and in the first round you

1067
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: gotta do it. I am getting the Cardinals in the

1068
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: first round, because you know, what I want to see

1069
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: is like the other thing is like, oh are the

1070
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 1: Cardinals able to when the about the Cardinals this week? Well,

1071
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 1: when the no, but when the lights are too bright,

1072
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: like you know, Kyler Murray and the Cardinals can't hang around.

1073
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: Well you know what, like they did not get blown

1074
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: out on Monday night. By the way, just an information

1075
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: factoid for you there. If that's what you think. You

1076
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: had them locked up and they didn't show up in

1077
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: a big spot. That's all. Nobody thinks they stink, you know,

1078
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: I don't know I locked them up on a big

1079
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: two games. We each locked them up and they lost ball.

1080
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what people think. T J Hockenson out

1081
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: like the Lions. You know they've been they've I don't

1082
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: say this like they've been cute in a way where

1083
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: I respect them, like they've they hang around in these games.

1084
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: But uh, I'm a one concern for Arizona. DeAndre Hopkins.

1085
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: We learned in between shows it's gonna have knee surgery.

1086
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: Is gonna miss it like at least the regular season,

1087
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: and we'll see James Conner is a little banged up.

1088
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: But this team, to me, has bounced back as as

1089
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: well as anyone off of the few losses they've had,

1090
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 1: and I just I think it's a week for Kyler

1091
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: Murray to say, put me back in that M v

1092
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: P race. I had one bag game, just like every

1093
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: other quarterback out there. I like the Cardinals, not as

1094
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: much as you, Mark, I liked them, but I think

1095
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: the Hopkins thing is big. And I know he came back,

1096
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: he missed a bunch of weeks, and when he came back,

1097
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: he wasn't really the same guy. But now that we

1098
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: know that he's not even gonna be there at all,

1099
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: I think it moves It moves everybody up in the

1100
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: pecking order. And I think, for instance, a guy like

1101
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: a j Green or a guy like Ron Delmore, like

1102
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: these are all guys like in their spots, they were thriving,

1103
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: but if you asked them to be something they're not

1104
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: at this stage of their career, it could lead to

1105
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: more issues for the offense. So I was hyper impressed

1106
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: by James Conner. I can't believe how good that guy

1107
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: has been this year. So he's going to continue to

1108
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: be an important thing and helping Kyler Murray, but removing

1109
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: his number one wide receiver from the mix. I think

1110
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna cost them games and cost them the number one.

1111
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: I do think that zach Ertz though, you know when

1112
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: he was there mostly through injury. That was another nice

1113
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: Steve Kind edition who's quietly the last. Just like layup.

1114
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: They have the Colts that at Dallas and then the

1115
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: Seahawks just because it's a division game and everything that

1116
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: that's difficult. I think they've got some big problems in

1117
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: terms of their interior offensive line in general. This is

1118
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: not the week for it. Shout out though, to Craig

1119
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: Reynolds last week, coming coming off the practice squad and

1120
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: running pretty well. It's like a depressing Monday transaction. When

1121
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: I saw they put him back on the trap practice squad,

1122
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: I was like, it was your best player on Monday.

1123
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: That's not nice. Yeah, bring back Craig DeAndre Swift. He's

1124
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: been a breakout guy for them. What do you get

1125
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: from playing him? At this point? Let's stay in. I

1126
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: know we should move, and we we will quickly. But

1127
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 1: did the Lions have forty eight million dollars of their

1128
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: salary cap on injured reserve and sixty five million dollars

1129
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: in dead cat money? They are like trotting out a

1130
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: team that is essentially free. Like that's like it's the

1131
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars. Al right, Greg, the draft moves to

1132
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: you and guess what Mark Sessler's on deck. That's how

1133
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: this works. I think this. You know, history will smile

1134
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 1: on what's how here? We will find out Sunday night. Okay,

1135
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 1: I will not be thrilled about these early games here.

1136
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: I still need my number one pick Shooks in the mix.

1137
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: This is annoying. It's not Shook's fault the way that

1138
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,479
Speaker 1: you phrase that, big What do you think about where

1139
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: Greg is right now as he really struggles to pick. Well,

1140
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to take Shooks games so that there's

1141
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: not too much carry over. I'll take the Cowboys Giants

1142
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: just to watch the Cowboys again. This NFC East round

1143
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: robin is ugly. It's the division that is playing each

1144
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: other the most down the stretch. Why did I take

1145
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: this game? Um, it's fine because or I could trade

1146
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: you for it. Don't do it. I could just pick

1147
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: the same game as Shook. Would be fine, because someone's

1148
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: gonna have to anyways. Now I realized, but this Giants

1149
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: team is dead on arrival. And that really like if

1150
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: you think about the way this season set up for

1151
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: whatever reason, all the divisions are backloaded, but the NFC

1152
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: East is by far the most all of their like

1153
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: the Eagles and Washington, basically all four of these teams

1154
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: is almost all in the division down the stretch. And

1155
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 1: that's perfect for Dallas because this Giants and Washington teams

1156
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: are hurting right now, and the Dallas defensive line can

1157
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: win games by themselves. I think their defense with Gregory

1158
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: and Gallamore and Lawrence all back to complement Parsons, is

1159
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: just like next level. And the whole next month for

1160
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys is about finding what is right again about

1161
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: their offense, because it's just not right. The Giants are

1162
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: the perfect opponent in the first half last week here

1163
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, where the Giants got waxed by the

1164
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: Chargers Justin Herbert and their offense rolled up two eighty

1165
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: nine yards, eighteen first downs, and twenty four points in

1166
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: the first two quarters. Um, if the Cowboys don't do

1167
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: the same thing, you really have to maybe go up

1168
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: a level in terms of your panic level about what's

1169
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: going on with the quarterback and the offense. Zeke Elliott

1170
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: says he feels much better, and we'll see if that

1171
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: translates to him being an actual high end running back again.

1172
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: But I really do. It's gotten to the point now

1173
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: where it's like, I feel confident that Cowboys will get

1174
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: the ten wins and win that division. But for me

1175
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: to see them as a real Super Bowl contender again,

1176
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: the offense has to come to life. Yeah, because as

1177
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: much as the dan Quinn defense um has evolved into

1178
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: something kind of terrifying, which I think is an incredible

1179
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: development for Dallas, Like, it's the offense that we believe

1180
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: taking them deep into wherever they go. I mean, I

1181
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: don't love that. Like Tyron Smith is dealing with an

1182
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: ankle right now, he's out, Tony Pollard is banged up.

1183
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:39,959
Speaker 1: I mean, so you're gonna have to just get through

1184
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: some of that stuff. But they've not been If you

1185
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,439
Speaker 1: look at Dax splits with and without Tyron Smith, um,

1186
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: they're alarming. So we've been Like the funny the thing

1187
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: is like they've been fairly healthy. I know he missed,

1188
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: he missed. Why Like he didn't have a mark Well

1189
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: point out you missed two or three games here? Two

1190
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: games here. I'm just saying compared to the average team

1191
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: out there. There's been so many injuries. So many good

1192
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: offensive teams like Arizona, for instance, have withstood bigger injuries,

1193
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: are bigger swass of the line gone, and they've looked better.

1194
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: Doc has definitely not been the same. I do wonder if,

1195
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: like we, oh, we we overrate the first month of

1196
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: the season, because it's the first impression when really got

1197
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, smart guys like Steve Weiss pointed out to us,

1198
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: like defenses are just catching up, Like the league is

1199
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: totally different in that first month, and we're still kind

1200
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: of stuck on this idea that it's that the that

1201
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: the Chief's defense, for instance, feels flukier because they were

1202
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: so bad for that first month. But it's like, no,

1203
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: this is the time that matters, and they've been great

1204
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: for two months when it matters. The reality is the

1205
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys have been mediocre for two months offensively, and that

1206
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: the the names, they're big names, but they just haven't

1207
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: been great for such a long time. Well, it's like

1208
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: three or four seasons packed into one, and this is

1209
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: a different team than we were dealing with in September.

1210
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: All right, let us move on. We are back to

1211
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. Well, I allo, so don't want to. I

1212
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: like Shook to have his own games so that he

1213
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: can come on and do his Shook things. So I'm

1214
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: gonna go with a game that, um, along with maybe

1215
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: twelve other Americans I'll be watching. It will be Houston

1216
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville. Thirteen of us will be Now this is

1217
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: how because I just there's not much. There's not much

1218
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: out there, and I'm not doing the double late game.

1219
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: I like to have my days start to get less

1220
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: convoluted at that point, Thank you very much. Um. I

1221
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean it is a fascinating game in the sense

1222
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: that for the first time all season, um, the Houston Texans,

1223
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: which have been a as low a que rating operation

1224
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: as you can find can stick, can look across the

1225
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: field and say, look at us, we're functional, um, because

1226
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: that's how you feel compared to the Jaguars. And I

1227
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: just want to see how the Jaguars players respond, because

1228
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: I know, Greg, you're big on this too, Like when

1229
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: you go from coach gets canned, and in this case,

1230
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: it's not like we were really fighting for this guy, um,

1231
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: but now, uh, you know, we're dropped off into abyss.

1232
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: It's like that locker room is probably on fire and

1233
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: thrilled with what's happened, and maybe you get a spicy

1234
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: version of the Jaguars, because all I would say is

1235
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: their defense, especially has been good in a couple of

1236
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: games they've shown things. I have nothing else to say

1237
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: about this game other than that, and I may say

1238
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: nothing about it on Sunday night, depending on what happens. Yeah.

1239
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a game between two two and eleven teams.

1240
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: It does have obviously draft ramifications, but most importantly, I

1241
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: want to say that weather can be an issue in

1242
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: this game, and you might want to get out your

1243
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: umbrellas because Greg has already called it. The Rainmaker said

1244
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: get your money, get your money out and get behind

1245
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. Do you still feel that way? Does

1246
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: the Rainmaker Greg still feel like the Texans are the team?

1247
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I would not have been as excited about

1248
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: if I knew that they were getting rid of Urban

1249
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: Meyer because Urban Monster behind the misery. This is ridiculous.

1250
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: I mean, this is if you haven't watched our YouTube show,

1251
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: and I'm sure Ricky will make this a social component.

1252
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: The graphic that we have celebrating the Rainmakers return to

1253
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: the show is just and I look like a jackass

1254
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: because I'm texting while this thing starts. But it's only

1255
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: because my computers not working right now and I was

1256
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: sending a message to Ricky. It was part of the job.

1257
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: This picture is terrible. Everything's terrible. I thought it was

1258
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: one of my favorite picks possible. Um when it was

1259
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: Texans plus three and a half and Urban Meyer was coaching.

1260
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: They've scored. You know, Trevor Lawrence is thrown for one

1261
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: touchdown since the bye week that was seven weeks ago.

1262
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: But I really do kind of believe in the dead

1263
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: coach bounce, uh like it's it's spice Rack's favorite thing.

1264
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: If you look back last year, Darryl Bevil, it's your

1265
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: Twitter avatar. By the way, Darryl Bevil, remember when he

1266
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: took over last last year for Matt Patricia. You know,

1267
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: you know what happened in his first game. He won.

1268
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: They didn't win for the rest of the season, but

1269
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: he won. Do you remember who the Houston Texans is

1270
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: in Raham head coach was last year? Mark not at

1271
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: all because I don't I don't remember any text, but

1272
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: they fired Bill O'Brien. Oh, it was Romeo Cornell that's right. Um,

1273
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: you know you know who his first game last year

1274
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: and Romeo did and then they didn't win a game

1275
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. It is kind of wild.

1276
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: So the rainmakers moving off it. I'm gonna just stick

1277
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: with it at this point because, uh, it's too late,

1278
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: but I don't feel I wouldn't have got you know.

1279
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: It's funny though, there's so many people that believe in

1280
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: the dead coach bounds, so the rainmakers going against it

1281
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 1: that the line actually moved up. The Jaguars were three

1282
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: and a half point favorites now they're five point favorites.

1283
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: So people think that Urban Meyer is worth negative one

1284
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: and a half. I think that's in this specific case.

1285
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: I feel super legit. It's kind of amazing. So hopefully

1286
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: you you didn't do it right away and you can

1287
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: get all five of those points. You know. Favorite bounced

1288
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: is the Spice Rack Social Disharmony bounce. That one I

1289
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: really like. It just feels that, you know, the point.

1290
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: The point is I locked it in last Sunday, so

1291
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: it's too late. You already put your money down. What

1292
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? This is like the sixth iteration

1293
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: of this graphic that was made and a text text

1294
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: from Dan. Then yesterday was you see what I'm going for?

1295
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: A question? Mark? Just a monster and then another text

1296
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: something that wants to die but cannot look like that.

1297
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: Look how the money like he vomits all the cash

1298
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: Like he's like killed me. I don't know where this

1299
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: picture came from, So it came from you sitting on

1300
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: the NFL now set. I understand who who took it?

1301
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: And why am I frowning in the I think it

1302
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: was a screen? Is that? Yeah? Erica believes it's the

1303
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: worst picture I've ever taken and that that's why it's

1304
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: not the best time since. And our guy behind the scenes, Drake,

1305
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: who kills it on the video side, he it in

1306
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: a lot of work on that. Yeah. Something not that

1307
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: you're a monster, Greg, but I wanted the thing that

1308
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: was created here to be a monster that wants to

1309
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: die but cannot do is make money, you know, the

1310
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: rainmaker or at least the game picks column twelve and

1311
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: two last week twenty over against the spread for the year.

1312
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: So that's solid, especially this year. Well done, Greg. Alright,

1313
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: let's move on, Mark. You just did your pick? Is

1314
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: it back to the Zeus? It's back to you, back

1315
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: to the Zoosa, all right, I will grab a late

1316
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: game here. Um, wait, Packers at Ravens is available. That's

1317
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: essentially like the Tom Brady and the Straps sort of

1318
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: just sitting there. I don't know what was doing. Well.

1319
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: I had a late game that I preferred. How is

1320
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: that still there? Because Mark Straine? No, because because I

1321
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: and I took the late game already, and then you

1322
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: leave that, you're not gonna take the two best late games.

1323
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: So it's all on Mark. But you don't prefer. You're

1324
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: the only one that wants it. So I guess you

1325
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: Houston Jacksonville over Lamar Jackson. Hopefully there is there is

1326
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: personal taste involved. That is the greatest steel in the

1327
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: history per you. Steel would be like had I wanted

1328
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: it and you stole it from me, now I'm I'm

1329
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: the tiebreaker, Dan's right. But then then you stole it

1330
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: from Greg though, because Greg just simply didn't see that.

1331
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: It was sitting out there. I had a late game,

1332
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: so I had the other best late but hey, just

1333
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: just give me. It was a great steal. I didn't

1334
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: try for it whipped. I'm just saying this draft otherwise

1335
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: has gone exactly as I hope whipped it right. You're

1336
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: like the Seattle Seahawks being like, hey, we wanted to

1337
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: take that guy you've never heard of with the pick,

1338
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: like that's what we want. It's exactly great, and then

1339
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: that player does not is inactive in his second Sea.

1340
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I am going to be sitting away from

1341
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: Dan listening to him shout about this game the entire

1342
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: time anyways, so I will be watching it. What is

1343
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: the difference had the three, four and six, he still

1344
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: come out of it with the game of the week.

1345
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: So Packers at Ravens, whoa, here we are now I'm surprised, Um,

1346
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: the green Bay Packers playing awesome football right now? So

1347
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: fun Greg, you you kind of you nailed the initial

1348
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: analysis last week that hey, you had your chance, you

1349
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: had your chance to get the Packers when they were

1350
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: a team that was going to win most of their games.

1351
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: But you know, you would basically be within a score

1352
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: at any point and you make a play, make a

1353
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: play there, make play here, you could steal win against

1354
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: Green Bay. But now it's different. Now you have a

1355
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: top ten defense, uh for green Bay with the best

1356
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: quarterback in the world back at his on his m

1357
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: v P game, So you could put those two things together.

1358
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,919
Speaker 1: That's why the number one of the power rankings, that's

1359
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: why they're ten and three, and that's why I think

1360
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: Baltimore is in a lot of trouble. Even if they

1361
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: have Lamar Jackson and he was supposed to pray on

1362
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: Thursday and did not, Like they were hopeful that he

1363
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: was going to practice today Thursday, he did not, So

1364
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: now you have to wonder about Jackson's availability on that angle.

1365
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 1: They said it's not a high ankle sprain, but they lie.

1366
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: They always lie. Greg Roman said it was going to

1367
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: go down to the wire. I kind of liked Tyler

1368
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: Huntley last week. For as little as he's had a

1369
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: chance to play, he was I mean, it is a

1370
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: massive downgrade. It's just that he was great. He's he's

1371
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: he is like you don't want to the rest of

1372
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: the year drive than Baker did in that game. They

1373
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: were moving. That's a separate argument. I'm comparing them to Lamar,

1374
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: not Baker Mayfield. Give me a break, but like the

1375
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: my concern for either quarterback is the tackle play for

1376
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: Baltimore right now, it's been bad. I mean, it's caused

1377
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: issues for Lamar and it caused issues for Tyler Huntley

1378
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: a week ago, and you've got a good pass rush

1379
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: coming in. I read something this morning, great piece in

1380
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: The Ringer by Stephen Louise Uh about why why can't

1381
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: the Ravens shake out of this offensive slide? And the

1382
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,759
Speaker 1: basic conceit of it was maybe it's Greg Roman's fault.

1383
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: Maybe this this run heavy scheme where they load up

1384
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: with a fullback and they only have two wide receivers

1385
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: on the field. It puts Lamar into really bad situations

1386
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 1: where defense can Defenses load up the boxes at the

1387
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 1: box and they don't ever get burned on it because

1388
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: they don't have a scheme that allows them to attack

1389
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: Uh in the passing game because of the way they

1390
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: run their offense. Now, the one thing, and again I

1391
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: thought it was really good piece. The one thing that

1392
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: I noticed was curiously missing was any any talk about well,

1393
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: is the reason why they have not moved away from

1394
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: the scheme is that they don't think that Lamar can

1395
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: run a traditional, closer to a pro style passing offenses.

1396
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: That's something that the reason Baltimore has been slow to

1397
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: move off that isn't because of being stubborn but because

1398
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: they don't think that's the best use of Lamar. My

1399
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 1: my point on this, though, ultimately, is they should. They

1400
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 1: need to try to mix things up with their structure.

1401
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: Maybe they can't, but they have the they have the weapons.

1402
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: They have Hollywood Brown, they have Sammy Watkins, they have

1403
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: a Shot Bateman, they have Mark Andrews. When are they

1404
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: going to open this thing up? Is it not that

1405
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: easy in the middle of the season. But if it

1406
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: is something where it's an adjustment that can be made,

1407
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: it's now time to do it, because we've seen enough

1408
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 1: for this offense where it ain't working all right. But

1409
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: I would just say their past protection has been a

1410
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: massive issue. Like I mean, I don't know what you're suggesting.

1411
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: They do throw the ball another fifteen times a game,

1412
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: but like that's people have been styming. It's it's the

1413
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: formations that they're throwing the ball. And there they still

1414
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: kind of look like a power running team, which is

1415
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: ultimately reliant on Lamar's athleticism. Yeah, they often allow the

1416
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: unblocked rusher to get through and you, hey, Lamar, go

1417
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: beat him. And we've got advantages in terms of the

1418
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: numbers that that is that would be tough to reshape

1419
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: in the middle of the season, especially they lost the

1420
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: right tackle Patrick McCarry, who had been playing really well.

1421
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 1: I kind of look came into the week thinking, like, man,

1422
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: if ever there was like a spot, it's a nonconference game,

1423
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 1: the Packers are on the road, it's like they're flying high,

1424
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: Like if ever there was a spot for like an

1425
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: organizational surprise, like the Ravens stand up and like get

1426
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: an upset, Like it just felt like that sort of moment.

1427
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: And Lamar has this great game, but his injury has

1428
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: me worried. And Mark, you mentioned the Packers pass rush.

1429
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: It's been so good without like without Zadarius Smith, it's

1430
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: so good right now. So that matchup, and then you

1431
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: think of the matchups on the outside when Aaron Rodgers

1432
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: has the ball, the starting cornerbacks for Baltimore or Anthony

1433
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 1: Averett and Chris Westrey, and I think, like, we're so

1434
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 1: used to the Ravens losing players that Humphrey was just

1435
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: like another one to lose. But that's where we talk

1436
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: about clusters again. Humphrey and Peters. Now you have these

1437
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 1: two great cornerbacks. Now you have zero great cornerbacks. Uh,

1438
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: and a team that's like relying on Blitze and it's

1439
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: just a lot going wrong. It would be and like

1440
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: one of the best wins of John Arba's career. If

1441
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: they could win this game. That part of it, I

1442
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 1: think fries Baltimore. I mean, they're the thirty first ranked

1443
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: past defense, and a lot of it has to do

1444
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 1: with just lack of availability of who they went into

1445
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: the season with. Stealing a game wouldn't matter. I mean

1446
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: the rest of Baltimore schedule. I know that they're sitting

1447
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: at the top of the division, but at Cincinnati, verse

1448
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: the Rams and then verse Pittsburgh, the sky's falling there.

1449
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: Baltimore fans and radio that if like they're not convinced

1450
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: that this Ravens team is gonna necessarily make the playoffs.

1451
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: I also think with the Greg Roman thing a little bit,

1452
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 1: that's who Greg Roman has been, Like, they went through

1453
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: this whole metamorphosis to shape it around Lamar and I

1454
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 1: think with the players that they have out like to

1455
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: go shift to something completely different, I'm not sure they

1456
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 1: have the right. That's another one there to do that.

1457
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: It's another thing when you look back, did we over

1458
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: You know at this point I've been holding on maybe

1459
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: too long to those first five weeks because they were different.

1460
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,799
Speaker 1: They were a vertical passing game and you you mentioned

1461
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: more of a pro style, a little more conventional Dan.

1462
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: I see that, but he is a pocket quarterback, like

1463
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 1: they could do that. I don't know if you can

1464
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: do that in the middle of the season. Like most

1465
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 1: of his success as a quarterback has been from the

1466
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: pocket like that when he he played in college at

1467
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: Louisville and passing offense. So you know, we keep on

1468
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: hearing about this cover too. Shell Um that's shutting down

1469
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 1: Kansas City and Buffalo. Um. The cover to invert is

1470
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 1: what you gotta keep an eye on. That's killing the Ravens. Uh.

1471
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: It's very interesting like the way, but the basic thing

1472
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: is like where you dropped the two cornerbacks back and

1473
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: then you have the safeties and everybody's just like crowding

1474
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: up and there's just no space to operate for Baltimore.

1475
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because they're running with the full back there,

1476
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: with the running back there, and it's all set up

1477
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 1: for the running game. But because they've revealed like kind

1478
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 1: of who they are, it's always crowded down there. And

1479
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: that's why we're not seeing any of that. Like LaMarche,

1480
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 1: they are a great coaching staff, but great coaching staffs

1481
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: need to adjust, and maybe it's just too hard with

1482
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 1: all these injuries and it just wasn't gonna happen. That

1483
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: they are a good example. I believe that. Hey, it's

1484
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 1: like running backs do matter um to the point that

1485
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: you that you need to have, like in an offense

1486
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: like this, there's a reason why they kept draft why

1487
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: they drafted j K. Mark Ingram a couple of years

1488
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: ago was perfect. I really do think that the drop

1489
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 1: off at running back has really been significant for them,

1490
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: that it's really hurt them. Mark cover two. Invert that

1491
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 1: down a little more. Dan, Well, usually you have the

1492
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: two safeties deed in this defense, you have the corners

1493
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: deep so they take care of anybody on the jets,

1494
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: and you send the safeties into the flat or either

1495
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: send them into the flat and they're more short handled tacklers,

1496
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 1: they can handle things in that realm. And then you

1497
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: have the box obviously stuffed up as well, so you

1498
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 1: just that's the cover to invert in a nutshell. By

1499
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: the way, speaking in a nut you couldn't fit that

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01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 1: in a nutshell. That was a lot of information. We

1501
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: have a lot to talk about for this game before

1502
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: we move on. Hello heroes, still here again this week.

1503
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: I guess nobody else wanted to do the recording, so

1504
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm doing it again week with the Green Bay Packers

1505
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: that were the Baltimore Ravens on fire and we don't

1506
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: even know if the mar is gonna play. Nick says

1507
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't pass the mirror test, but I don't care enough.

1508
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: I like it shortened to the point there by Phil

1509
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 1: and Nick it does. It does pass. Calm down with

1510
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 1: the mirror test. Um, it's like a four four and

1511
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: a half points. Yeah, that definitely pasts like it is

1512
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: the Ravens. The Ravens like they deserve organizational love. Their

1513
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: five and one at home this year. They're one of

1514
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: the few teams that have had a home field advantage

1515
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: yet I like that lock. By the way, if anyone's

1516
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: curious where we're at. The Westley Brothers are seven and

1517
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: seven this year, so it's been a kind of a

1518
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: middling year for them and their first they're in fighting

1519
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: in the way that they operate, right, that's but it's not.

1520
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: They're only three games out. Mark and I are ten

1521
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: and four and the listeners are eight, eight and six,

1522
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: and Ricky it says two and eleven. But like I'm saying,

1523
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: I think maybe you've got to take that and maybe

1524
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: flip it. Maybe she's closer to like, I don't know,

1525
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: seven and six. I'm like that. I think I think

1526
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 1: that's fair, even if it's not official. Like, we know

1527
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: you've done the Patriots great service. All right, let's pause

1528
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: right here and take a break. We'll be right back,

1529
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: all right, let us move on. Wow, I can't believe

1530
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,839
Speaker 1: that game went that late. It goes now to Greg

1531
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: with the penultimate pick in our draft. Oh wow, I'm

1532
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna take a late game. I know Mark doesn't want

1533
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:23,839
Speaker 1: to late games. We want a happy Mark on Sunday, Cincinnati, Denver.

1534
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 1: Love these games. I love that the whole season is

1535
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: like a story, you know, and now we get to see,

1536
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: like what's the ending of the story. And I know,

1537
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, you're like in Mark's world, these two teams

1538
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 1: aren't gonna win the Super Bowl? So does their story

1539
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: really matter? Who was more excited about the Bengals a

1540
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: week ago than weeks ago? You were? You were so

1541
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: angry that they were losing to the Chargers, only because

1542
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: you had a strong take about them, which I found

1543
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: that I like that. I would like that. Well, it

1544
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,040
Speaker 1: was like nailing the coffin for me to realize, I

1545
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: have no idea what's happening at all? That's what did it?

1546
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 1: I no? I like that. Um like if if if

1547
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: I was living and dying on our takes, like you

1548
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 1: just would be dying every week, Like how many times

1549
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: would would I be dying? I think these two teams

1550
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,600
Speaker 1: are interesting. I think there's a good chance, you know,

1551
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: one of these teams makes the playoff is here. I

1552
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: know you guys don't want to hear about it, but

1553
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 1: it's like Teddy Bridgewater has a pretty legitimate chance to

1554
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:31,879
Speaker 1: be like starting starting that first Saturday, because the Broncos

1555
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: are going to be in that Saturday afternoon worst time

1556
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: slot playoff game if they're in it most likely, I

1557
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: feel like Teddy could be in this game, like we're

1558
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: gonna find the end to this story. And when I

1559
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: look at the Broncos, I think there's at least a

1560
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 1: case to be made that this time of year is

1561
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: their chance to be their best they've been all year,

1562
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 1: because I think the defense for the last five or

1563
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 1: six weeks has gotten out of their funk, and the

1564
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: offense is at least healthier then it's been in And

1565
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: this Bengals team, on the other hand, there's something not

1566
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,719
Speaker 1: adding up to me, like there twenty one and offensive

1567
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: dv o A. This is great talent. I think Joe

1568
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: Burrows playing like a top seven or eight quarterback. To me,

1569
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 1: it comes to coaching where it's not they're not maximizing

1570
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: their guys. And Fngio and Zach Taylor are two third

1571
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,799
Speaker 1: year coaches who have been around a little while they're

1572
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: getting to the end here. I kind of trust Fongio

1573
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,799
Speaker 1: a little more in this spot than I do the Bengals.

1574
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor is um being put into a rough place

1575
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: this week. I think a lot of people feel like

1576
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: the way that you do that that some of the

1577
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: gamesmanship and decisions a week ago in that loss, um

1578
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 1: we're fell on coaching and it's just like, let Joe

1579
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: Burrow go be Joe Burrow, And I would say they

1580
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: have these two teams that the Bengals, when you get

1581
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: the good version, could go into the seventh seed or

1582
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: or into a playoff situation and tangle with any more interesting.

1583
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,759
Speaker 1: They definitely are and like I mean, they're they're penchant

1584
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 1: for big plays. Um just makes him watchable and extremely dangerous.

1585
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: And this is their season, I think because they've got

1586
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: a rough slate too. They've got Baltimore, Kansas City, and Cleveland.

1587
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 1: After this game, give me a wild card Saturday that

1588
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: has Cincinnati in Minnesota both playing on the same day.

1589
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: Go wrong, give me, give me. That we talked about

1590
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: and to the point of some of the Zach Taylor

1591
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: criticism we mentioned on Tuesday's show, The Run, Run past

1592
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: decision and overtime when they were first intended to twenty

1593
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: six and overtime. Jamar Chase was asked about that after

1594
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 1: the game, and Jamar Chase showed up and had a

1595
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 1: huge game um in that loss. And when he was asked,

1596
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: why do you think you guys decided to run and

1597
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 1: get run heavy in that spot when you're moving the

1598
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 1: ball passing so well, And his response was, shoot, good question, man,

1599
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 1: good question. Well, that's typically just like leaving the coach out,

1600
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, hanging him out to dry. You know, there's

1601
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 1: a guy follow on Twitter, Ali Connolly who's over in

1602
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: the u K. He's been on Mena Kimes pod. He

1603
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 1: described he he's much smarter acts as than Oz and

1604
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: I did. But he described the Zach Taylor offense is

1605
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: like not really enough like and this kind of to

1606
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: me speaks to Zach Taylor the coach. He doesn't really

1607
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 1: have like the Zach Taylor offense. He just sort of

1608
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: like grabs like the greatest hits from all the other offenses.

1609
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 1: And to me that that makes sense. There's something formless

1610
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: to me, uh about this group, about this offense. And

1611
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just biased and wanting to buy into this

1612
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: uh Broncos team one more time, but there's there's like

1613
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: there's something there that I actually think the Broncos have

1614
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,719
Speaker 1: have forged some toughness throughout the course of this season,

1615
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 1: and their defense especially, I think it's finally showing up

1616
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: like like we thought it might early in the year.

1617
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: All right, up next, I think the final pick in

1618
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: the draft goes to the old Zeuser and I will

1619
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:47,600
Speaker 1: grab Jets at Dolphins story. This week, Ringer doing some

1620
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 1: good NFL writing. Ben Solac wrote the first piece that

1621
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 1: I've seen, the first national piece, Zack Wilson has been bad?

1622
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 1: What does that mean for his NFL future? And I

1623
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: thought the time was interesting because Sunday was the first

1624
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,719
Speaker 1: day when I was thinking the same exact thing to myself.

1625
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: It was like, this is gonna be okay. So that's

1626
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 1: where like this Jet season, the rest of this week,

1627
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: the rest of this year. Now three and ten eleven

1628
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 1: straight years with without the playoffs. That's the longest streak

1629
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's like, is Zach Wilson going to

1630
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: show us something between now and a week eighteen or

1631
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 1: are we gonna go into this offseason and a full on,

1632
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: Oh this he's gonna be on on basically trial in

1633
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: his second year because that's kind of how things work now.

1634
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 1: You don't get four years to figure it out. Typically

1635
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 1: it's two and then it's decision time for these teams.

1636
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: So it happens quick. Zach Wilson, can you make progress here? Now?

1637
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 1: The Dolphins are a tough opponent to do it against

1638
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 1: on the road. Is not gonna make it easier for

1639
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. But the Miami team is another team that, all, right,

1640
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, show me something. Miami. It's not like there's

1641
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 1: they have done nothing wrong. In fact, all they've done

1642
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 1: is win for like a month and a half now.

1643
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 1: But I don't have to be excited about the Dolphins

1644
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: yet I don't. I don't have to feel like they're

1645
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 1: a team I need to see as a contender in

1646
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:02,560
Speaker 1: the a f C. Even if I know they're in

1647
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: playoff positioning, they still do not do it for me.

1648
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: Am I am I wrong to feel this way if

1649
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 1: they're not excited. So it's like you can only play

1650
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: your schedule. But this has been the softest schedule I

1651
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: ever remember a team getting for this amount of time.

1652
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 1: I think it's fine to feel that way because we

1653
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 1: we can't, you know, either genuinely be excited or manufacture

1654
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: excitement over thirty two different teams at the same time.

1655
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 1: It's a little too much. But I I'm I'm a

1656
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 1: little different with thin you on the Dolphins that I

1657
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: just think that they went back to what I liked

1658
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 1: about them a year ago on defense and refound that identity.

1659
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: And you know, if you look about Zach Wilson like

1660
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 1: he could look across the way at tah who coming

1661
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: into year two is draped with questions throughout a season,

1662
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: but has actually played I think quite well inside their

1663
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,560
Speaker 1: system and does not help that they won't have to

1664
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: in a in a in a way that almost unlike

1665
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 1: any quarterback. You know, they brought in his college coach.

1666
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: They're so r P O heavy. I think he's like

1667
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: leads the NFL and yards you know on run pass

1668
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: option by like double any other quarterback. Despite him, you know,

1669
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: missing those games, he's really good at the short game

1670
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 1: stuff and that's basically all they run. It's not esthetically pleasing,

1671
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: So I totally get Dan why. Like defensively, yeah, they've

1672
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: turned it on. I think they were. They were trying

1673
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 1: to do what they were doing a year ago just

1674
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 1: wasn't working for the first six or seven games. They

1675
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: are incredibly aggressive defense, and now it's working. They're a

1676
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 1: tough defense to play against, and their offense is not

1677
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: fun to watch. But you know, to A and Zach Wilson,

1678
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 1: there's a big dichotomy there. To A to A look

1679
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 1: like an NFL quarterback from day one. Zack Wilson has

1680
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 1: struggled to a degree that I thought thinking, you know

1681
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 1: that during that game, like, of course you got to

1682
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: play him, but should should if he played two more

1683
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 1: starts like that? Should should he be playing football? Because

1684
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: it's not serving anyone? Yeah, his the way he you

1685
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: could tell the game is not slowing down for him.

1686
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: You see it week after week. He doesn't process the

1687
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: game fast enough. And the only hope is that with

1688
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 1: reps and time and just going through the motions of

1689
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: being a young quarterback, that improves. But history is littered

1690
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 1: with guys, guys that were top five picks that you

1691
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: saw it immediately that the game wasn't really going to

1692
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: translate for them. And that's the only thing I'm nervous about.

1693
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that um that he's doomed in

1694
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: my eyes, but like, I didn't even feel this way

1695
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 1: about Donald Donald. I thought he was showing enough in

1696
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: his rookie year, especially near the end of that year,

1697
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,959
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, there's something to build on here. With Wilson,

1698
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: there hasn't been much of a base here to get

1699
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 1: excited about with You could have a couple of a

1700
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: couple of quarters here and there where he got hot,

1701
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 1: but otherwise, any other quarterback that's on this roster has

1702
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: been better than him. It's I think he's looked really concerning.

1703
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 1: But one difference between him and Donald is like everyone

1704
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 1: protected Donald's play to such a degree because they had

1705
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: Adam Gates to blame everything on. I hear almost no

1706
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 1: blame for the Jets coaching staff, and I understand that

1707
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: like Robert Sale is uh someone that personality wise we enjoy.

1708
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 1: But I mean there's a lot to be said for

1709
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 1: how a couple other teams around the league have you know,

1710
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: developed rookie quarterbacks. Look at Mac Jones, I mean it's

1711
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 1: I understand that the numbers like they were literally top

1712
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,719
Speaker 1: ten and e p A without Zach Wilson, like Josh

1713
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 1: Johnson looked pretty darn good. Right. They played Flacco against

1714
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: the Dolphins last time because they didn't want to expose

1715
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 1: Wilson in the game. Now he has to play that game. Um,

1716
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: Mike White had his moments, like you know, like the

1717
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 1: other three quarterbacks all looked Yeah, the Mike White game

1718
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: that everyone like went nuts over, were like it wasn't

1719
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 1: he throwing like three and four yard passes the whole time.

1720
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm not taking that away from It's just like I'm

1721
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 1: not like Zach Wilson needs more time, but like it's

1722
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 1: not just Za wilson isolated issue. He needs an offseason

1723
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 1: reset and maybe he comes back a different player. I've

1724
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 1: seen it happen with Eli Manning and Alex Smith. Those

1725
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 1: are two guys drafted just you know thing though those

1726
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 1: guys were drafted like even at a time where and

1727
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 1: I know it's a Manning brother, but like quarterbacks that

1728
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: are drafted top five, seven, eight, these these years should

1729
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: come in ready to go. College is different now, right, Zack.

1730
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 1: I think to mark to dance point, he's at a

1731
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 1: level where it's among the worst of the worst. Like

1732
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 1: rookie seasons from quarterbacks. Doesn't mean there hasn't been cases

1733
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: where you don't you don't bounce back. Those are two

1734
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: of them, Eli and Alex Smith, But more often than not,

1735
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: it's a pretty big red flag. Yeah, I don't wanna. Yeah,

1736
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to ring the alarm bell too loud here,

1737
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 1: but I think their offensive line is not good. But

1738
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: it's okay. It's been good last he had That's what

1739
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 1: worried me last week. Their offensive line played great. The

1740
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 1: Saints don't have much of a Pastors. There was no

1741
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: pressure in that game. There was no pass rush in

1742
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: that game. Saints jents. You want to know how many

1743
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: sacks George Fant has given up at left tackle this year? One,

1744
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: Like the line has been okay, they're playmakers. They're not terrible.

1745
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,480
Speaker 1: They have tight end issues, but they have some playmakers.

1746
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 1: They have health issues, and the offensive play calling has

1747
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 1: not been bad. It was shaky early on, but I

1748
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:55,679
Speaker 1: don't know how much of that is connected to them

1749
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 1: realizing how deep they were into it with the rookie

1750
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 1: quarterback being in over You about this week anyway could

1751
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: be well, it's it's not something that I want to

1752
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 1: talk about, but I feel like it's something that should

1753
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 1: be stated at this point. Um, all right, let's see

1754
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: that closes the draft. What do you have lest what

1755
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 1: left Washington and Philadelphia and Caroline at Buffalo, Washington at Philly,

1756
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: uh Mark, you want to get us go in there? Well,

1757
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's along with the Browns Raiders game.

1758
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: I mean, what's happening to Washington is the centerpiece they

1759
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 1: have right now? Um, a flood of players on the

1760
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 1: COVID list. They have a total of thirty players on

1761
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: COVID and I are I think we've got something like

1762
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 1: thirty something active players to even put on the field.

1763
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 1: So this team that a couple of weeks ago, uh

1764
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 1: was a fun little factor in the playoff race is

1765
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 1: probably a sitting duck for Philadelphia that you know. I mean,

1766
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 1: these guys play each other in a couple of weeks.

1767
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: That could look a lot different than at that point.

1768
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:56,759
Speaker 1: I guess we want to We don't know if Jalen

1769
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: Hurts is definitely gonna play. It's you don't think it

1770
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: had a high ankle sprain, which they successfully shielded from

1771
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 1: the media for a while. That's always the first question

1772
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 1: the media asked when whenever anybody has an um and

1773
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 1: so this injury, which we didn't think was that serious,

1774
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: now it's coming on three weeks. It sounds like Minshew

1775
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: has a decent chance to to play in this game.

1776
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters. Like I would have loved

1777
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: to throw a little rainmaker fun on this earlier in

1778
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 1: the week, even before the COVID stuff. It was at

1779
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: five and a half the football team. It's now up

1780
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 1: to nine and a half. And I still love the

1781
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 1: Eagles in this to to go over that because the

1782
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 1: Eagles defensive line is healthy. This Washington offensive line is

1783
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 1: not at all in the level of COVID players, and

1784
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:46,759
Speaker 1: injuries to Washington is unlike I think anything that's happened

1785
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: to any team in the last two years. And I

1786
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: think people are getting wise to that. That's why a

1787
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: team like the Eagles are favored by nine and a half.

1788
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 1: And even then, I don't think it's enough. Like I

1789
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles could win this game by twenty

1790
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: or thirty. The defensive line for Washington tins down like

1791
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: five of their topics people players, but then just regular

1792
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: old the injuries. Curtis, Samuel h is Her, Terry McLaurin

1793
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 1: is coming off a concussion might not play in this

1794
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 1: game like they They're so banged up. It just doesn't

1795
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 1: feel fair. And I don't think this will. This stuff

1796
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: gets stupid at this point. Sorry, I mean, and you know,

1797
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 1: if you're Gardner Minshew, you're thinking yourself, Okay, if I

1798
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: can just get a second start, especially in this matchup

1799
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: right now, I destroy Washington after I lit up the Jets,

1800
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 1: that's going to put the head coach in a tough

1801
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 1: position to take me out of the lineup. He he

1802
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 1: had cover to defend his QB one after one game.

1803
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 1: But if I do two games in a row, it

1804
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who I beat. But if I light up Washington,

1805
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 1: they might I mean yeah, if they factor into the

1806
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 1: fact that like Greg and I are starting along Washington's

1807
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: defensive line by Sunday. But right, I know it does

1808
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 1: feel like a little google ish um sometimes you know,

1809
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 1: to make analysis like based off all this COVID stuff.

1810
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, the the checks deposit either way. I think

1811
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 1: it's gonna be raining here. Uh. I just want to

1812
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: see that graphic again. Let's see it. Let's bring it up, Eagles,

1813
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: Let's do this. I gotta give our production team a

1814
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 1: little heads up on that Greggy there it is. Everyone

1815
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 1: is agony, there it is. There's the money just pouring

1816
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:32,879
Speaker 1: out of his mouth like one year old on his birthday.

1817
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 1: I can't wait to go into here and then put

1818
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:41,640
Speaker 1: it back in. Uh. Finally, the Carolina Panthers at Buffalo Bills.

1819
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 1: All right, so skid City perfect spot for the Bills.

1820
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: I mean, you cannot add. The only better opponents really

1821
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 1: would maybe be the two teams playing each other, Jacksonville

1822
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 1: and Houston. Maybe the Jets, But the Panthers are in

1823
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 1: that group as well. Where it's like this is when

1824
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 1: you want to catch the Panthers. They are a sinking ship.

1825
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 1: They don't know what's going on. Uh. Their quarterback play

1826
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,640
Speaker 1: has been off the charts. Bad for weeks. Christian McCaffrey

1827
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 1: is not only Christian McCaffrey is like, I'm already out

1828
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 1: for the year, but let me just I got COVID too,

1829
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 1: Do not dare put me back in the lineup. I'll

1830
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 1: see in two. So he is long gone out of

1831
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: the picture. And the Bills, who need to win in

1832
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: the worst way. If we if we were like those

1833
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 1: people that do their Sunday kickoff shows. This drives me

1834
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 1: crazy when it's like, um, oh yeah, I have to

1835
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 1: lock a game. Oh yeah, Bills over Panthers. That's my

1836
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: lockanutless locks. Yeah, that would be my gutless lock. Is

1837
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: Bills getting the win they need because they opt to

1838
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 1: play the old Greg game that works. What's what makes

1839
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: more sense the Bills coming out of the seven and

1840
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 1: seven and the Panthers six and eight, or the Bills

1841
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: getting the eight and six the Panthers continuing their fade

1842
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 1: to five. And this is another one like favorites late.

1843
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 1: I think finally we keep saying like we don't know anything,

1844
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 1: but the last couple of weeks, actually favorites have just

1845
01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 1: keep winning, and I think the truly bad teams have

1846
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 1: shown themselves and that's what you're doing like the line

1847
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 1: here is ten and a half and that doesn't seem

1848
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 1: nearly enough. And it's I know, I know, you're getting

1849
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 1: on the quarterback play and that's what's getting attention. That

1850
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 1: can played pretty well for most of that game, except

1851
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,600
Speaker 1: for the the pick six, I guess say, But how

1852
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: about the Dolphins game? Not not well? The defense? Well,

1853
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 1: what about that terrible fumble of midfield that ended the

1854
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 1: game essentially that ability that that was a weird handoff play.

1855
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 1: You're right, I was a weird snap. I'm just saying

1856
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 1: I was expecting like a terrible game, and he was

1857
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 1: like sixth right for eight seven. It was really just

1858
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 1: if you took away the pick six, he had a

1859
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 1: fine game. My point is the defense is not special

1860
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 1: at all. Like they can't get off the field. I

1861
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 1: thought they were going to be special. They're not at all.

1862
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 1: There's no reason they should so. And the interior offensive

1863
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,759
Speaker 1: line for Carolina is unplayable. Rule has all this stuff

1864
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 1: about he wants to be a running team, well, draft

1865
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: or develop a good offensive line, or or hire a

1866
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 1: good offensive line coach. They are one of their interior

1867
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 1: offense line from the real tape heads like Baldy think

1868
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: are right there with Miami as like the worst in

1869
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 1: the entire NFL. I don't know, it's just one of

1870
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 1: the most concerned by forty, one of the most concerning

1871
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 1: develop I like it. Three Picks from the rain Yeah,

1872
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 1: let's do it, all right, there, you got, you got

1873
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 1: three picks. You want to pay for Christmas? You want

1874
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 1: to do you want to be taking care of that. Actually,

1875
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 1: this is like follow the Rainmaker to the Desert. It's

1876
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 1: like a guest star coming back to a TV show

1877
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 1: but then they like over use him way too much

1878
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: and everyone's sick of it. It's a reboot and let's

1879
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 1: hope you're not big at the end of that episode,

1880
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, clutching your chest, laying in a shower stall.

1881
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Spoiler spoiler apologies if anybody

1882
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 1: hadn't seen episode one of the Sex and I will

1883
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:02,480
Speaker 1: definitely again. I've heard I've heard this spoiler many times,

1884
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 1: big and oh, and then then it was there, and

1885
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 1: then there was it was that was a catastrophic decision

1886
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:12,879
Speaker 1: to make it that because every single negative headline about

1887
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: this show is just and then it was a piece

1888
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 1: of or whatever. It's like, I've seen that sort of headline.

1889
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:22,559
Speaker 1: All right, So there you go. That is the week

1890
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Speaker 1: fifteen preview tonight, Greg Rosenthal, special guests, Lakshasi, big Get

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Speaker 1: in a big spot it from that's right from westling

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Speaker 1: manor that's pretty good. That's a good get. So Greg

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Speaker 1: and Keish will be handling the TNF recap of Chargers Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Check that out, and then Sunday night we'll be back

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Speaker 1: as a group to recap every game we just preview.

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Speaker 1: That's how it works. Make sure you check out be

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Speaker 1: around the NFL broadcast on NFL Network. You catch it

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Speaker 1: streaming live on NFL dot Com Friday's at one pm

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Speaker 1: Eastern and am Cific. We've never plugged that before, but

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Speaker 1: you can you can live that. We've literally never said

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Speaker 1: it before. You can watch it live on NFL dot Com.

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Speaker 1: We're on on a game day this week, I think,

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Speaker 1: or I hope it's a Saturday, and we should be

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Speaker 1: checking that and then Saturday maybe we'll be on TV

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Speaker 1: because the time Sloite usually doesn't clash with football games.

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Speaker 1: Because we're on at four am here in California on

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Speaker 1: Saturday's four am Pacific seven A. I'm Eastern around the

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Speaker 1: NFL broadcast two hours. We go around the NFL and

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Speaker 1: hit every team in the league. So check that program out.

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Speaker 1: We're proud of it. You like the podcast, you like

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Speaker 1: the TV show, that's a promise. And if you watch

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Speaker 1: the TV show like a year ago or two years

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Speaker 1: ago and you're like, oh, it's not the same as

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Speaker 1: the podcast, well first, all up your nose with a

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Speaker 1: rubber hose. Number two. Check it out. Now, tell us

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Speaker 1: what you think. Tell us is it still feel that way?

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Speaker 1: It's been rebranded, and shame on you if you've taken

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Speaker 1: that much time in between two. Can you listen to

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Speaker 1: the podcast? We love you. I'll judge them just a

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Speaker 1: little bit. All right, I don't judge you. Mark judges you.

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Speaker 1: But come back to the TV show. Give it a chance.

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Speaker 1: You'll love it. You can watch it on YouTube to

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Speaker 1: UK people that don't get NFL networker can't see it's

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Speaker 1: on Sky, you can watch it on The numbers on

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Speaker 1: YouTube are just there, insane, they are. They really big

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Speaker 1: So if you're just like a huge Falcons fan and

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Speaker 1: you just if even if you don't want to hear

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Speaker 1: to the Falcons toutes if you're sick of your team

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Speaker 1: and don't want to hear about the two tested positive

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Speaker 1: for COVID. No, he didn't. Yeah, that would have Mullins

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Speaker 1: into the That would have been worth the breaking news

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Speaker 1: screamed it out. So I was like, oh, my god,

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Speaker 1: just you guys. You guys were members of the Nick

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Speaker 1: Mullins fan club. Especially, Maybe they have a chance. Though

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Speaker 1: I like Nick Mullins, but I don't like the way

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Speaker 1: that we've got them back in our life here. That's brutal.

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Speaker 1: That is brutal. Well, how do we know Nick Mullins

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Speaker 1: doesn't have it if the other two quarterbacks do? This

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Speaker 1: can we please? Can we can we chill out with this? Well,

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Speaker 1: they said they would not they will not consider removing

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Speaker 1: a moving the game, but just where to move it?

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Speaker 1: First of all, Sunday, even a day, would it help

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Speaker 1: you change but that? But you're right, why not Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Because I'll tell you why. It's green and it's it's

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Speaker 1: a it's shape, plain, it's the shooting out of the monster.

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Speaker 1: Greg's mouth in the rainmakers. All Right, I'm sorry Mark.

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Speaker 1: Well well, I mean, life goes on. What can what can?

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Speaker 1: It is a little it is tough, tough for those brownies,

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Speaker 1: all right, but good for you people who love a

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Speaker 1: long podcast. All right, let's go. Dan Hands is signing

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Speaker 1: off for Guide Storm. The old Boss, Ricky Hollywood, the

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Speaker 1: grave digger, closed the door on his private life tonight today.

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Speaker 1: That was I thought that was a class act. That

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Speaker 1: he's opening the door to a new bedroom this weekend

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Speaker 1: and then he's closed. Yeah, I'm not sure we've sealed

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Speaker 1: that up entirely. Heed the call.