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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid Verbo.

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Speaker 2: Come that for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy.

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Speaker 3: You want to be happy for day Ato State?

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 3: Whoo whoo? And then and Tye, welcome back to the

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Speaker 3: Saliburba boys and girls. My name is ty hilden Brand.

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Speaker 3: Over there, it is the one and only Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 3: Where are you now, I'm in Houston, Texas, Tye. I

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Speaker 3: am doing this show from Radio Row. I brought my

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Speaker 3: sort of elaborate audio setup, and this is the first

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Speaker 3: time we recorded since the National Championship, correct because first day, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: since our National Championship recap, since we played our conversation

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Speaker 3: with Adam Amin last week we put that up.

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Speaker 1: So I am yeah. I'm sitting at a table, an

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable table, and I'm amongst like seven thousand radio shows,

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Speaker 1: but having a good time. And my signing day knowledge

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Speaker 1: is above average, but not as great as years past

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Speaker 1: because I've been working all day on Super Bowl stuff.

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Speaker 1: But life is pretty good, ty How you doing? I'm

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Speaker 1: doing well.

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Speaker 3: What's the fashion situation down here? Is it any better

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I don't know this person personally, but fashion wise,

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Speaker 1: I know you're fascinated by Jean Selection, right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: big time. So there's somebody that either is currently or

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Speaker 1: and you would assume when you're associated with that kind

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Speaker 1: of term that you probably are looking slick, right, Terry Maguire, ask, dude,

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Speaker 1: they wear whatever they want, but that specific kind of look,

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Speaker 1: that image you want to project that kind of slick,

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Speaker 1: sort of swaggy look, right, because you want to impress

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Speaker 1: college kids as you're recruiting them to become I would

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Speaker 1: otherwise the fashion's fine. Nothing out of what you wouldn't expect.

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Speaker 1: You got a lot of sort of oversized polos, a

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Speaker 3: Yeah all right, Well, welcome one and all to our

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Speaker 3: National Signing Day special here again. You can find us

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Speaker 3: on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and Snapchat, all of

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Speaker 3: the usuals out there. On social media. Don't forget if

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Speaker 3: you like the show, perhaps you're just finding us iTunes

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Speaker 3: dot com. Soliverba will be here all off season talking

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Speaker 3: college football. Today though it's National signing Day or National

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Speaker 3: letter of Intent de whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 3: It is when the stars of tomorrow sign with their

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Speaker 3: new college teams. In some cases, if you're Alabama, they're

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Speaker 3: signing like a semester or two in advance and perhaps

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Speaker 3: out where some of these stars of tomorrow are going

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Speaker 3: to play. We're going to be joined here momentarily by

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Speaker 3: our good friend Brandon Hoffman, who's been on the program

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Speaker 3: for years on end now on signing day, talking about

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Speaker 2: Dan.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm always excited to have Brandon on. Is there

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Speaker 1: anything that stood out? How much did you pay attention

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Speaker 1: I cannot stress enough now that pretty much all of

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Speaker 3: Don't do that. And then the big story for me,

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Speaker 3: not the drone on too long here play. Our two

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Speaker 3: Just a pure Southern gentleman Sincere Day.

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Speaker 3: He could be a pathological liar, but Sincere Davis would

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Speaker 3: It's sort of like a little John complex, right right exactly.

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Speaker 3: All right, Dan, we are joined now on National Sunning

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Speaker 3: He's a gentleman. He's been on the program. Gosh, I

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Speaker 3: don't know how many times, but Brandon Hoffman, how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good, Ti, Dan, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: It's been a long time we've been doing this, so

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that you guys been thankful. You guys asked

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Speaker 1: On again tradition unlike any other.

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Speaker 3: That's right before we get into it, we got to

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Speaker 3: ask about the Avery Strong Foundation. How are things going.

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Speaker 2: They're going great. We actually just announced the golf tournament

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Speaker 3: Absolutely all right, So awkwardly transitioning onto a far less

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Speaker 3: mister Hoffman, you guys have just formally announced your recruiting

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Speaker 3: Wow, how many years running now is this?

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Speaker 2: Well, it starts really with Najia Harris, who's the number

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Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, this is the first time Nick Saban has

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Speaker 1: but it's another crossroads here just in terms of the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think was probably the most remarkable is the

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Speaker 2: I am, and I think if there's an indictment, if

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, and on that, let's sort of shift gears

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Speaker 1: All right, and we'll stay with new coaches just because

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Speaker 2: Well, they got Caleb on Chasing the day. It was

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Speaker 2: They put tim last week, so they got him. Tyler Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Another top three hundred linebacker, Miles Brandon they were able

438
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Speaker 2: to hold on to. There was a lot of uncertainty

439
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 2: what Brendan was going to do after the firing of

440
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Speaker 2: Less Miles, and after the adjustment of coaches, and then

441
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Speaker 2: when it looked like they were going to get linked

442
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Speaker 2: as their offensive coordinator, then there was the uncertainty of

443
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Speaker 2: who they were going to hire as THEOC. Brandon was

444
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 2: given a little bit of an eye to leading the state,

445
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 2: but to leave in that class ends up signing with

446
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Speaker 2: LSU Jacoby Stevens, another top five safety out of Tennessee.

447
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 2: So I like what he did in Louisiana, but I

448
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 2: also liked what he did in the surrounding states. And

449
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 2: that was what Orderon's calling card was when he was

450
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: at USC, when he was at Tennessee, is that he

451
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 2: really has this ability to cover a wide slock of

452
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: land and Louisiana is going to always be good to LSU.

453
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Speaker 2: But what's going to help them, I think, compete with

454
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 2: Alabama for the SEC West is for him to still

455
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 2: be able to go into some of the surrounding states

456
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Speaker 2: and get top guide. They're going to finish with a

457
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Speaker 2: number seven class in the country, and I think that

458
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 2: again with still the uncertainty of the offense coordinator, with

459
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Speaker 2: who they lost as a result of the firing the

460
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Speaker 2: less miles, namely Dylan Moses who's from Baton Rouge. LSU

461
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Speaker 2: fans and ed Or especially happy very happy with having

462
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Speaker 2: a top ten class ended a third number three classes

463
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Speaker 2: overall in the SEC.

464
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 3: Randon the top three recruiting classes in the Big Ten

465
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 3: at time of recording belonged to Ohio State, Michigan, and

466
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Speaker 3: Penn State, which obviously is not a huge surprise. The

467
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 3: fourth best class belongs to Maryland. They had a guy,

468
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Speaker 3: Cordarian Jones, send a weather balloon to space in order

469
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Speaker 3: to commit via a video. Yes, this one. You know,

470
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Speaker 3: I think people are going to listen to the show.

471
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Speaker 3: They're going to go and examine the class. They're going

472
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Speaker 3: to say, Wow, Maryland sort of came out of nowhere here.

473
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Speaker 3: How did Dj Dirkin build this class? And what do

474
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Speaker 3: you think it says about perhaps the direction that he's

475
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 3: trying to take things.

476
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Speaker 2: Well, I think what was most remarkable about that class

477
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 2: is that he went into Virginia and to a very

478
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 2: good school in Virginia at Bishops Sullivan, and was able

479
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 2: to get three guys from that school. So you got

480
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 2: justin Flute, who compete for an ACC championship in his

481
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: first year there. You had bronkle Men and all who's

482
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: in his first year there, and Dirkin as well in

483
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 2: his first year. And Dirkin is the one who goes

484
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 2: into Virginia and gets key guys. But then he also

485
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 2: got key players from Maryland. They again, well, Durkin, coming

486
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: from the Jim Harbaugh Tree, he knows that just because

487
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 2: you sit in a certain region doesn't mean you can

488
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 2: only recruit that region. He spread his wings. Yes, there's

489
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: guys from DC on this team. This is guys from

490
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 2: Maryland on this team, but you also have guys that

491
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 2: he went down and got in Georgia. He went down

492
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 2: into Florida, he got a couple of Jucos, he got

493
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: guys from Tennessee, and so he really kind of cast

494
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 2: that net wide. The big gift for them was Anthony McFarland,

495
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 2: who was an in state running back, number six running

496
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: back overall from Domatha. Catfick had a lot of national attention,

497
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 2: had a lot of schools after him, but he wanted

498
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: to stay close to home. And I think that that's

499
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 2: going to be key for Durkin moving forward is keeping

500
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 2: the top Maryland kids there. That was something that the

501
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: previous coaches that Maryland struggled with. They they had a

502
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 2: hard time keeping those kids. And I think what I

503
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 2: also like about what Drikin did. Instead of trying to

504
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 2: recruit west of Maryland, he tried to stay in the

505
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: Atlantic area with that move to the Big Ten. That

506
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: was always the worry that they would try to go

507
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 2: into regions where they didn't have ties just because they

508
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 2: were in Big Ten country. He's focusing on the Atlantic

509
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: as the core of where his class is coming from,

510
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 2: and I think if you look at his class, it's

511
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 2: evident that that effort to focus on that mid Atlantic

512
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 2: region paid off for them.

513
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and another Big Ten story is what Ohio State

514
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: did very quietly, the number two class, but a monster class.

515
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 3: If it weren't for Alabama, this would be like the

516
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 3: talk of the town when you look at what they've done. Now,

517
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: how is urban Meyer trying to reconstruct the farm in Columbus.

518
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Speaker 2: You know what's interesting about that class is this how

519
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: much of a focus that Ohio State had on the

520
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: West coast and how much of a focus they had

521
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Speaker 2: in Texas. I mean, when Meyer was at Florida, he

522
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 2: obviously was able to recruit the SEC areas the South

523
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 2: really well. But this year they kind of made more

524
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: of an effort out west. And it hasn't been really

525
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: something he focused on before this season at Ohio State.

526
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: But they come out west. They get two players from

527
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 2: Mission Borman, Kate Martel and Haskell Garrett. They get the

528
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 2: number one off into lineman in cal Bornia. In fact,

529
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: who's California's mister football, Wyatt Davis. If any of you

530
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: guys ever seen the movie The Program, remember Alvi Mack.

531
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Speaker 2: The character Alvin Mack's son is the offensive guard headed

532
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: out of Saint John Bosco to Ohio State five star player. There,

533
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: they went over to Maryland, got Chase Sung, another player

534
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Speaker 2: from DNATA, which DJ Diritkin is going to work on

535
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: to keep the super super top guys in cost to Home.

536
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: But they really had a good year in Texas, and

537
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting because he had Tom Herman

538
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 2: down there in the state of Texas. He was at Houston.

539
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 2: Then he went over to Texas, and yet urban Meyer

540
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: had more success at the top end guys in Texas

541
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Speaker 2: over his former disciple. Got Jeffrey Acuda, who's a top

542
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 2: fix team player, got Baron Brown, who's the top outside

543
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 2: linebacker in the country, and then got Kendall Sheffield, a

544
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Speaker 2: JUCO number one JUCO player in the twenty seventeen class

545
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: out of Blind College. So he really kind of spread

546
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: his wings even wider this year. And that's the danger

547
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Speaker 2: with trying to recruit against Serbn Meyer. He's got such

548
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Speaker 2: a good reputation as a coach, as a developer, and

549
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Speaker 2: I think moving forward, one of the big challenges is

550
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551
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Speaker 2: Now you've got Ezekiel Elliott playing for the Dallas Cowboys

552
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553
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554
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555
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556
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Speaker 3: to the ACC quickly. Florida State came in first in

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Speaker 3: terms of ACC recruiting, Miami came in second. Coming in

598
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Speaker 3: third is the now defending national champion Clemson Tigers. Does

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Speaker 3: this represent any kind of recruiting drop off for them

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601
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602
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Speaker 2: Well, I think in the case of Clemson, it's interesting

603
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Speaker 2: because I was doing a little bit of homework earlier. Today,

604
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Speaker 2: Clemson has not had a top five class and not

605
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Speaker 2: even a top ten class in the last five years.

606
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Speaker 2: Yet they played in two national championship games, they won

607
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: a third DCS Bowl, and this year they're not even

608
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: in the top twenty five. Now, part of that because

609
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: they have a smaller class. They only have fourteen commitments.

610
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Speaker 2: In fact, in the top fifty, they're the only school

611
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: in the top fifty with less than fifteen commits. And

612
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: so if you are well, with the exception of Stanford

613
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: as well, who recruits differently more than anybody, but for

614
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: Clemson to compete for national championships and yet they still

615
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: haven't had a top five, top ten class, it's pretty remarkable.

616
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: But people that think that there's a drop off, you

617
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Speaker 2: go to the two thousand and eight teen rankings, which

618
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Speaker 2: we're going to release a new set on Thursday. The

619
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Speaker 2: number one player in the twenty eighteen class in the country,

620
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence out of Georgia, is already locked in with

621
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: comes in. He's already committed there. So they lose to

622
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: Sean Watson, but they've got a nice steady stream of

623
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks coming in, and I think that Dabbo and his

624
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: stat do a tremendous job of developing those guys and

625
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: playing guys early. But this is just one of those

626
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: years where they had a smaller class, so it may

627
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: not be as sexy because there's not as many guys

628
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Speaker 2: in it, but they definitely filled some key needs.

629
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Speaker 1: Let's stick with that thing, because you did mention Stanford

630
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Speaker 1: another school with a very small class. Obviously the way

631
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Speaker 1: that they recruit is is different from most of the

632
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Speaker 1: rest of the country's powers. But you look at their

633
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Speaker 1: class and it's I think they have of their fourteen commitments,

634
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Speaker 1: nine or ten guys that would be considered blue chips,

635
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: which is still weird to say with Stanford, but they

636
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: might have the best offensive line class and the best

637
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: pure quarterback in this class, which is nothing to sort

638
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: of skim over. How strong is this class, you know,

639
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: just in terms of the quality, not necessarily the.

640
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's the most Stanford thing ever to have

641
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: the number one tight end and the top two offensive

642
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 2: lineman in the country. And that's what they're really pushing

643
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: as sexy, because for Stanford, that's really sexy. They love

644
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: to get those big guys in the trenches. Colby Parkinson's

645
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: the number one tight end in this class. And I

646
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: said this a couple of times. If you kind of

647
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: take the key attributes to the best tight ends at

648
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: stamped in the last decade, the length of a guy

649
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: like Leavin toy Lolo, the hands of Zach Ertz, the

650
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: strength of a Kobe Fleeen, or the speed of an

651
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: Austin Hooper, and you put them all into this one

652
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: that said, hey, let's design a tight end. Colby Parkinson

653
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: is what they produce. Then you take in the top

654
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: two offensive linean in the country, Foster Cerril and Walker

655
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: Little at one and two, plus Ben Davis Mills. And again,

656
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: I hate to throw out complayer comparisons because so much

657
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: goes into that, but you're going to look at the

658
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: closest thing that Stanford's had at a quarterback to Andrew Luck.

659
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: Davis Mills is that guy. So Stanford has three of

660
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: the top six players in the country every year to

661
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: the year David SHOT's supposed to go into the NFL,

662
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: and every year David Shots stays because he's just recruiting

663
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: at such a different level. He's getting the best players

664
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: in the country. People that thought that that drop off

665
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: was going to happen from Harbaugh clearly don't know that

666
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: Stanford just continues to recruit better than just about anybody

667
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: given what they have to deal with from an academic standpoint,

668
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: And so they got five top one hundred players and

669
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: they only have fourteen kids in this class. I think

670
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: they end up with the terms of the average star ranking.

671
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: They had the most quality class of anybody.

672
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: In the PAC twelve UCLA USC USC obviously finishes in

673
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: a crazy strong way. But where they specifically strong in

674
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 1: this year's class.

675
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: A defensive line. I mean they got two of the

676
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: premier defensive linemen of the country, two of the premier

677
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: defensive tackles in the country. Marlon Tuiyo Paladu, who was

678
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: from Oregon, actually spent the majority of his childhood in

679
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: Los Angeles before moving to Oregon. But then he committed

680
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: to Washington in April. A lot of people thought, hey,

681
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: you know, how solid is that to Washington. Then there

682
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: was rumors he was going to move back to Los Angeles.

683
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: He stayed strong in his entire recruitment to Washington, said

684
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: about two weeks ago USC gets them for an official visit.

685
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: He ends up flipping the USC and enrolling. Then today,

686
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: so he's the number five defense tackle of the country

687
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: and number two in the West. Then today they got

688
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: to Fuitt with some five star j twsle out of

689
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City, and he's the number three defensive tackle

690
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: in the country, but the number one in the West.

691
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: So they get both those guys, They get the number

692
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: two receiver in the country, they get the number two

693
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: tight end out West, they get one of the top

694
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: outside linebackers in the country and one of the top

695
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 2: athletes in the country. So they went into today with

696
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: six guys that they felt that they could get all

697
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: top one fifty guys. They got all six of them,

698
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: including three five stars. So Clay Helton, I think the

699
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: scene really turned around from them when they beat Washington

700
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: in Seattle in November. The next day they flipped Jack Sears,

701
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: who took over for Sam Donald San Clementy from Duke,

702
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: and since then they've had nothing but recruiting momentum. And

703
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: so the way they closed on the field with ten

704
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: straight wins or ninth straight wins was followed up with

705
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: them closing dramatically in recruiting. They have a top five

706
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: class in the top class in the Pac twelve.

707
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: You mentioned Washington obviously coming off of a playoff appearance,

708
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: maybe not the greatest appearance for the offense, but sitting

709
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: nonetheless an incredible season for the Huskies. Were you a

710
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: little bit surprised that they were not able to capitalize

711
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: on that sort of on field success as much as

712
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: they were or was this did this seem appropriate?

713
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: No, because they were actually sitting in after they won

714
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: the Pactoral championship game. They had Marlon Trioflado fully on board.

715
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: They had Connor Weddington, a top one hundred kid from

716
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: their backyard who'd been committed to February, on board, but

717
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: then Weddington the week after the Packwall championship game, was

718
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 2: admitted into Stanford. He decommitted and then ultimately flipped to Stanford.

719
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 2: They lose Toypladu. They have the number two player in

720
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: their country in the backyard, Foster Serril, although I never

721
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: thought he was going to Washington. So they lose two

722
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 2: of the top three players in state, plus their highest

723
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 2: rated commit They were able to add a few guys

724
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: today that you were nice complimentary pieces, But I think

725
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: there's a lot of frustration with Washington, with the coaches

726
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: that are just they were this close to having a

727
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: magical class, but then they lose two players to two

728
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 2: of their biggest rivals in the Pac twelve at both

729
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: Stanford and at USC And I think that Chris Peterson

730
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: has done a great job in the state of Washington.

731
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: But now that's two years in a row the top

732
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: player in the state has left them. Last year they

733
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: lost Jacobson. This year's foster Serril, so they could have

734
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: had a class become much better than it was. It

735
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 2: wasn't ever going to be a big class, but there's

736
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: going to be a strong class. Losing Wedding tim and

737
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: losing tweet Plotta, though, is definitely leaving them.

738
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: Seeing it all right, So we've talked about a couple

739
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: of teams that are certainly top heavy able to stay

740
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve before we go elsewhere. UCLA a

741
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: team you're exceedingly familiar with, very strong at the top,

742
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: with arguably the nation's best corner in Darnay Holmes, arguably

743
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: the nation's best pass rusher in Jalen Phillips. How do

744
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: you evaluate the job that they've done and has there

745
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: just been too much turnover and too much uncertainty around

746
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: the coaching staff after last year for UCLA to sort

747
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: of maintain the momentum that they've had on the recruiting trail.

748
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 2: This really was a tale of two classes for Uscile.

749
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: There was their defensive side of the ball, which was

750
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: very good. Like you mentioned Darnay Holmes Jalen still loves

751
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: the top defensive end and cornerback in the country. But

752
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: then on the offensive side of the ball, they didn't

753
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: sign a receiver, they didn't sign a running back. They

754
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: did add a four star offensive lineman today, but he

755
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 2: hasn't played since his junior year because he had some

756
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: transfer issues. They sign a quarterback who's barely the top

757
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 2: seventy five guys, more of a sleeper project. They didn't

758
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: hire an offensive coordinator until January. They got rid of

759
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: their offensive line coach two weeks ago. So there's too

760
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: much turnover on the offensive side of the ball, and

761
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 2: some coaches that maybe just didn't put the effort into

762
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: recruit that the coaches that replaced them didn't have a

763
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: lot of time to make up with. Now you flip

764
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: the to the defensive side of the ball, and they

765
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 2: did well on the defensive line. They did well on

766
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 2: the secondary. But UCLA's problem last year wasn't on defense.

767
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: It was certainly on offense. And then they follow that

768
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: up with just a very mediocre offensive class. So you

769
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 2: know this is going to be a make or break

770
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: for Jim Mora at UCLA. They were able to salvage

771
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: his class largely because Jalen Phillips was a son of

772
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: two UCLA students to ucile A grads and Darning Holmes's

773
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: father and Dmitri smartin the defensive backsco to UCLA, we're

774
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: longtime friends. But if you look at this class across

775
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: the board, a lot of disappointment because of how bad

776
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: their skill position signings were in this class, and they

777
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: really need to make a difference in twenty eighteen where

778
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: there's better receivers, better running backs. But this is a

779
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: pressure year for Jim Mora both on and off the field.

780
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: So of course, in the Orange Bowl, one of the

781
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 3: better Bowl games is postseason, Florida State edged out Michigan

782
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 3: by one point. But now in the recruiting rankings, we've

783
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: got Michigan actually edging out Florida State by one Notch

784
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 3: five versus six. Again, if you look at the twenty

785
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: four to seven composite rankings, how did Michigan edge out

786
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 3: Florida State Despite some of the heavy artillery that the

787
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 3: Knolls are bringing in.

788
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: You know, Michigan did a really good job early on

789
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: and then keeping a lot of those guys. They got

790
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: some guys laid. They didn't get as many late this year.

791
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: There wasn't a Rashaan Gary type number one player that

792
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 2: they got, although they did make a case for Najie Harris.

793
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: But adding Aubrey Solomon today was obviously huge for them.

794
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: He was originally in Michigan commit. You remember, he was

795
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 2: the one that de committed because his name was spilled

796
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: wrong in a thank you note. But then he came

797
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: back on board because you know, he loves Michigan. They

798
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: had Donovan Peoples Jones, who's the number one receiver in

799
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: the country. Caesarui is the number two center in the country.

800
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: Drew Singleton the number five out by linebacker who came

801
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: from the same school that Rashan Gary was at. They

802
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: did a good job of building these classes in the

803
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,959
Speaker 2: last couple in the first few months of the recruiting cycle,

804
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: and then the last couple of weeks closed on a

805
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 2: couple of key guys. And I really think if Michigan

806
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: can just get their head coach into the news a

807
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: little bit more. It might increase their national brand and

808
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: they might be able to recruit a little bit better.

809
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yeah, Well back to Florida State for

810
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: a second, because Michigan may be a bit over X

811
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: books at this point. Cam Akers is a name that

812
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: repeatedly comes up if you try to read anything about

813
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,479
Speaker 3: the twenty seventeen recruiting class. He's able to do things

814
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 3: that you wouldn't think he's able to do. And you

815
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 3: kind of hear that as a whole for the recruiting

816
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: of the running back class this year, that is just

817
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: a really strong running back class. Where else is it strong?

818
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: I've seen offensive tackle? What else do you see? Just

819
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: as you look at this class as a whole, where

820
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 3: is it good? Where is it not as good?

821
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean the offfenitive tackle class. The offensive line

822
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: in general was really strong across the country, and I

823
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: think when you look at the caliber of interior line,

824
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: and it used to be that schools just wanted offensive

825
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: tackles and then they would make those guys into offensive guards.

826
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: But then you look at the last few years and

827
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: you're seeing a bigger emphasis on NFL teams drafted in

828
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: very big, punishing offensive or interior offensive linemen and grabbing

829
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 2: guards in the first round, and that's really trickled down

830
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: into the high school ranks and colleges who they're recruiting.

831
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 2: Now they're going after pure guards and they're plugging those

832
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 2: guys in because of the strength that those guys have,

833
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 2: the athleticism that a six foot three guard they have

834
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: as opposed to a six to sixth tackle who really

835
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: can't handle the strength of an interior defensive lineman. You're

836
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: seeing more guards that are getting, you know, pursued heavily

837
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: as opposed to traditional tackles. So it's not just tackles

838
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: that are really making this class really strong. It's the

839
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: offensive guards and even some centers. Then you put it

840
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: over to the defensive line. I mean, this is an

841
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: outstanding defensive tackle class, and especially out West. When you

842
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: think defensive lineman, you typically think the Southeast, but the

843
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: West has three of the top five defensive tackles in

844
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: the country. And those are all big, physical guys that

845
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 2: can play inside. But they've gostel got the quickness to

846
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: be an end or a three tech and be utilized

847
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: in a myriad of different ways as defensive line. But

848
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: they're not just space fillers that knows. And I think

849
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 2: if you look at the defensive end class too, it's

850
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: also very strong. So the trenches this year, probably more

851
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: than any year that I can remember, have been the

852
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: strength nationally. Next year, though, it's going to trend back

853
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: to the skill position, especially at receiver, especially at quarterback.

854
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's an interesting year because you didn't really

855
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 3: have that consensus number one player. It kind of bobbled

856
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: back and forth between a couple different guys depending where

857
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: you looked. As you look out at the twenty seventeen class,

858
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: who are your favorite players to watch? Do you think

859
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 3: our listeners might be interested in watching now as we

860
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 3: sort of see these guys out on the college football field.

861
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because you look at Alabama in

862
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: these last couple of years. I mean, they're running backs,

863
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: they have put up great numbers, they won national championships,

864
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: they've competed for Heisman Trophies. But the guys that have

865
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: been with maybe in some cases more system guys that

866
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: they've really flourished because of the great offensive line that

867
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: Alabama has had over the last five to seven years.

868
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: But now you're throwing a guy like Najie Harris, who's

869
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: a physical specimen, who is as talented or running back

870
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: as I've ever seen. Now you put him at Alabama

871
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: and he's the best running back prospect as an absolute

872
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 2: running back that that Nick Saban's brought in that Alabama

873
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: has brought in. So he's going to be in name,

874
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: you know. In fact, we went back and forth between

875
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: him and Foster. Serral is our top overall player, and

876
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: what really triggered it was just the fact that he

877
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 2: had such a unique blend of size and strength and speed,

878
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: and he is the guy that he's going to go

879
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: to Alabama. He's going to be talked about a lot,

880
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: He's going to put up big numbers, but I think that,

881
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: you know, he's just a different kind of back as

882
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: Vinie that I've seen. Another player that I'm a big

883
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: fan of. Obviously I mentioned why Davis, the son of

884
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 2: Alvin Knack. I mean, he is for an offensive lineman

885
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: to win the California Player of the Year when you

886
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: think of all the skill position guys, he's just this

887
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: real physical, punishing player that is an absolute blast to watch.

888
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: But a guy that I think fans are going to

889
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: really enjoy watching these next couple of years is cam Makers. Yes,

890
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: he's you know, a highly regarded player. He's the number

891
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 2: three player in the country. He tried a lot of

892
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in high school and in fact, you know, he

893
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: did a lot of wildcat he threw for a bunch

894
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: of yards too, and yet running back is what he's

895
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: going to focus on at Florida State and in the

896
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: other year, he's probably the top back in the country.

897
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: Same with Stephen Carr who's just behind Nagie Harris. But

898
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: both those guys are top ten players. And I think

899
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: cam Makers at Florida State, especially losing Dalvin Cook, Stephen

900
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: Carr USC, he'll probably be the number two behind Ronald

901
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: Jones next year and then take over down the line.

902
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: Those are two backs that I think you're gonna put

903
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: up some very good numbers at Florida State and USC, respectively.

904
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: And so this top three of Harris and Akers and

905
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: Stephen carrs is good to one, two three punch at

906
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: running back as we've seen, including that Vaunte twenty fourteen

907
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 2: running back class.

908
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: You know, before we get into any more big picture questions,

909
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: do you have four to eight thoughts about Notre Dames class?

910
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 1: Nice you played Hell Tany you are you there?

911
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: Ty?

912
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: Speaking of coaching turnover, when you have a lot of

913
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: coaching turnover and you lose, especially you have the guys

914
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: that weren't asked to return, that were told to turn

915
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: in their playbooks and told to turn their keys in.

916
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: But then you lose guys like Mike Sanford, who is

917
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: one of their better, younger, aggressive, energetic recruiters. You lose

918
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: them to head coach job. That's a bummer, but that

919
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 2: was one of those that he kind of had to

920
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: see coming, you had to expect coming. But it still

921
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: doesn't help when you have coaches having when you have

922
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 2: that turnover as much as they did. So Notre Dame

923
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: still is going to end up with a very good class.

924
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: They've got a lot of good players coming in. I

925
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: think that only Ohio State and the top five team

926
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: has as small as a class as Notre Dame does.

927
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: So it's high on quality in that class if the

928
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: numbers aren't that big. But they've got some guys in

929
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: this class that I think have a chance to be

930
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 2: very good players in college and guys that I think

931
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: are going to become kind of Helsloe names because they're

932
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: going to be able to play early, and they're going

933
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: to be utilized early, rocked by one of the best

934
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 2: tight ends in potential. He's our number three guy out

935
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: of Texas c J. Holmes of four star athlete out

936
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: of Connecticut, Aaron Banks, who was the top lineman in

937
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: northern California. He's already enrolled. Notre Dame does a good

938
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: job of giving those guys in on campus early. On

939
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: ty you're going to be excited because they also have

940
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 2: a Swedish and absolutely like a Swedish a Foreignish stage student,

941
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: Jordan den Martis, who happened to play with Rick Meyer's

942
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 2: son down in San Diego. They took him from cal recently,

943
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: so there's gonna be some storylines there, I would imagine,

944
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: being that he's a Swedish extinct student.

945
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 3: Nice, Okay, I like that.

946
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: Is there an emerging region in the country. Obviously, teams

947
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: that have the most talent near them tend to succeed more.

948
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: Is there a specific region that you see growing and

949
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: not necessarily becoming on the level of like southern California

950
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: or Florida or Georgia, Texas, whatever, But is there an

951
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: area where you're seeing more and more and more that

952
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: really seems to be making a jump in terms of

953
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: pure talent availability.

954
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the Northeast has really seen

955
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: a growth there. For you know, especially in New Jersey.

956
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: There's becoming more players out of New Jersey that are

957
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: signing with schools than you know, even Pennsylvania. And I

958
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: think that you're starting to see even some of the

959
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: outer states in the Northeast starting to produce. But I

960
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: got to say that the state that I think is

961
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: becoming better and better. They were known initially just for

962
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: their guys in the trenches, starting to see more skill

963
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 2: guys is the state of Utah. And there's a reason

964
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: that schools are now making it a priority. Ohio State

965
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: and Michigan did. Michigan did a satellite camp in Utah.

966
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: Ohio State was pushing for guys heavily in the state

967
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 2: of Utah. USC got the top player in the state.

968
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 2: But instead of it just being offensive and defensive lineman,

969
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 2: they're producing receivers. They had a US Army All American

970
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: out of Provo who's going to Washington, a top five

971
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: receiver out West. They have a running back before start

972
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: running back going to Stanford. They have players at linebacker.

973
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: They had the number three safety out West who's staying home.

974
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 2: His guys on staff at Uyu, he's playing there. So

975
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: Utah is really starting to have much more than just

976
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: offensive and defensive lineman. Now the problem for that is

977
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 2: that if Utah one of their big things about joining

978
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve was the hope that they would be

979
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: able to keep those in state kids home that wanted

980
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: to go play in the PAC twelve. Well, now you've

981
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: got the PAC twelve trying to make a bigger emphasis

982
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: in the state of Utah and trying to recruit those guys.

983
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: And now you've got national programs trying to recruit from there.

984
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: Starting to see more Polynesian coaches being added to staffs,

985
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: and they have ties into the state of Utah, which

986
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: is why you've see more staff around the country try

987
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 2: to recruit that state.

988
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: And when you look at specific regions, obviously the guys

989
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: that are able to take advantage and sort of seek

990
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: out those players that are at one point diamonds in

991
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: the rough and then they become household names. These are

992
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: your superstar assistants. If you were building a dream staff

993
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: right now, maybe not full of Ohio State or Clemson

994
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: or Texas or whoever recruiters, but guys that you can

995
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: see recruit really well wherever they go. Who are some

996
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 1: of those names that are just all star recruiters right now?

997
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 2: I think Mario Crystal Malls one, and I'm sure that

998
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: you guys, especially Dan, you'll be excited to see what

999
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: he can do at Oregon because he recruited the West coast.

1000
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 2: Well Joan Williams, who started right tackle for Alabama. This

1001
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: here is from Sacramento. So he's been able to recruit

1002
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: not just in the South, but he's been able to

1003
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: recruit out west. Well, now he's in Oregon, he can

1004
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: recruit those kids in the West. But now he's got

1005
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: those Southern ties and putting guys into the NFL like

1006
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: he did at Alabama, He's going to be able to

1007
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: attract guys out to Oregon. So Christ of all would

1008
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: be one of the first guys that I would make

1009
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 2: a pitch for. Jay Harbaugh. He's tireless. He's the son

1010
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: of Jim, so he doesn't have a choice but to

1011
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: have energy and to be an aggressive recruiter. But he

1012
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: has been key in so many of these relationships that

1013
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: Michigan built because he's that younger guy he you know,

1014
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: has the knowledge of using social media to his advantage

1015
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: and really being you know, he was only in college

1016
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: five years ago, so he you know, kind of knows

1017
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: how to recruit. He knows how to kind of hit

1018
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: those guys where they're at and understand, you know, what

1019
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: a sixteen, seventeen, eighteen year old how he thinks and

1020
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: what triggers him. So you get a guy like Harbaugh

1021
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: who maybe is still learning a little bit on the

1022
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: job from a positional and from a X AS and

1023
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: O standpoint, but you can't knock his ability to recruit.

1024
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: You also can go down to USC. T Martin has

1025
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: been one of the best recruiters in the country, and

1026
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 2: here's a guy who's a legend at Tennessee who played

1027
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: the coached in the SEC before he went to USC.

1028
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: He can recruit nationally. But then also has Guardina Sarah,

1029
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: which has been so good at USC in the last

1030
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: years as his main school, so he's been kind of

1031
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: their national recruiter and a guy that I think has

1032
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 2: been really in the last couple of years putting himself

1033
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: out there as one of the maybe the next head

1034
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: coaching hires from the coordinator ranks. Maybe Tennessee. If they're

1035
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 2: looking for a replacement for Butch here in the next

1036
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: couple of years looks less and brings te Martin homes.

1037
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: But he can recruit obviously us. He has often put

1038
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 2: up some numbers this year. So those are three right

1039
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 2: there that I think if you start with those three,

1040
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: you can probably do a lot worse, and then you

1041
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: go get some young, energetic defens and guys on the

1042
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: defense side of the ball. Kind of my next rising

1043
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: star though, Tyra Tony Tuioti, who had been an analyst

1044
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 2: at Michigan. He's now at Fresno State. He was key

1045
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 2: in a lot of the groundwork at Michigan developed with

1046
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: the defensive lineman. He's at Sayes State now with Jeff Temper.

1047
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: But I give him two years before he's out of

1048
00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: power by school.

1049
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 3: All right again. His name is Brandon Huffman. You can

1050
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 3: find his fun workover at scout dot com. Brandon, before

1051
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 3: we let you go, the url for your Averystrong Foundation.

1052
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: Averystrong dpg dot org is where you can find all

1053
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: our latest news notes, events that we've got coming up.

1054
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 2: You can follow us on Twitter at Averystrong vipg. Same

1055
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: with Facebook and Instagram. We'd love if you know, people

1056
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: just keep spreading the word about vig awareness and how

1057
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 2: we can continue to fight back and fight against it

1058
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: and on our little girl in the process.

1059
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 3: It's a great it's a noble cause. We would urge

1060
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 3: everyone out there to go and check it out and

1061
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: please be generous with your donations. Brandon, thank you as

1062
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: always for being so generous with your time. I know

1063
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 3: it's a busy day for you, and hopefully we'll talk

1064
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 3: to you soon, but in the meantime, go get some rest.

1065
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: I appreciate Dan TI. Thank you guys for all the

1066
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: support for Avery, for our family, and thanks for having

1067
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: me on again. And thanks to all the listeners for

1068
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: all their support.

1069
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 3: All right, Dan again, that is Brandon Huffman. As I

1070
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 3: said at the top, he is far more knowledgeable about this,

1071
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 3: and I feel I am at anything.

1072
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 1: Ah, you're pretty good with space, yeah, right, podcasting, audio.

1073
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: I think you are extremely strong.

1074
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 3: But he's really good though. He knows this inside out.

1075
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 3: And I thought we covered a lot of good ground

1076
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 3: from the SEC to I'm looking at my notepad here

1077
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 3: SEC Big twelve, Big ten, Notre Dame, acc PAC twelve.

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Speaker 3: We covered pretty hard. So yeah, I think we did

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Speaker 3: a pretty good job just surveying the landscape and giving

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Speaker 3: people an idea for how their teams did, how how

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Speaker 3: the bigger teams in their conferences did. Obviously we can't

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Speaker 3: cover all of them, and I'm sure it's going to

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Speaker 3: be a storyline for us now as we progress forward

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Speaker 3: into the off season. But an anticlimactic signing day, but

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Speaker 3: certainly a significant and consequential one now as we as

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Speaker 3: we progress.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would argue nobody is as deft and

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Speaker 1: precise and learned when it comes to all Anesian names.

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Speaker 1: Just rapidly casual with them, like there are some tough

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Speaker 1: syllables in there. Ty and Brandon is just a pros

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Speaker 1: pro with them. I love it.

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Speaker 3: Rapidly casual would be a great fast food restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure it would be all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, fun show. I will let you get back

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Speaker 3: to it. I can hear a crowd back there.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're all surrounded me.

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Speaker 3: So you know, you do you do what you got

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Speaker 3: to do down there in Houston. We will catch up

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Speaker 3: next week. Figure something to talk about next week. We

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Speaker 3: got plenty in the meantime again, It's iTunes dot com

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Speaker 3: slash soliverbal check out the website soliverbal dot com and

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Speaker 3: Facebook and Twitter and all the usuals. We will be

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Speaker 3: back next week. We'll be back with you pretty much

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Speaker 3: every week all off season talking about this or that

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Speaker 3: in the college football world. Big thanks again to Brandon Huffman.

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Speaker 3: We'd encourage you to check out the Averystrong Foundation to

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Speaker 3: defeat the IPG. It is well worth your time. Please

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Speaker 3: read up on the story if you don't know it,

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Speaker 3: and contribute your harder in cash to a very, very

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Speaker 3: true and noble cause in the meantime, for that guy

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Speaker 3: way down there in the great state of Texas, Dan

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Speaker 3: rubinste for myself, Tie hildon Brand, thank you again for

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Speaker 3: joining us on National Signing Day. Catch you all in

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Speaker 3: about a week or so. Stay soldered.

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Speaker 1: Taste