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Speaker 1: What's this guy's name, Some Hollister, Jacob Hollister. Yeah, good,

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Speaker 1: look at what they've done to put skill, position, talent

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Speaker 1: who's on a proved deal for low money but a burner.

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Speaker 1: They have Darius Layton who's put together a nice young

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Speaker 1: career for them. Evan Ingram, the athletic tight end. Kenny Golladay,

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Speaker 1: they signed Kyle Rudolph. I mean they are loading up

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Speaker 1: and Barkley's coming back from the ACL. So Mike and

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Speaker 1: Q Daniel Jones, it's your time, buddy. You better put

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Speaker 1: the numbers up or you're gonna get run out of town,

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Speaker 1: right and that you know it's and I get it,

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Speaker 1: You're right. It's a great observation. The Giants are saying,

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Speaker 1: look what Buffalo did. They'll get that guy. They'll get

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Speaker 1: a guy, and he's there. But you know it was

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Speaker 1: it was four guys for Josh. It was Diggs, Brown,

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Speaker 1: Beasley and Gabriel Davis and then they drafted Knox and

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Speaker 1: they drafted that's right, and you're before and Moss as well.

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Speaker 1: It was a bunch of skill position people. Tyler Croft

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Speaker 1: came in. They bolstered the offensive line. I mean that

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Speaker 1: the whole the entire offsete And now you look back

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Speaker 1: the man who man the whole offseason up until leading

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Speaker 1: the football. And they were even bring an offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: right before training camp Winners, you know, Buttker was there.

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Speaker 1: They were bringing guys in Trey Adams came in after

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Speaker 1: the draft. They signed him as a rookie free agent.

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Speaker 1: He was on the practice squad. It was all about

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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, both skill positions and

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. And speaking of Tyler Croft, in case you

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Speaker 1: missed that, over the weekend, he signed a one year

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Speaker 1: deal with the Jets. So Tyler Croft will remain in

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Speaker 1: the Division. One year, two million dollars deal. I think

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Speaker 1: high reward at the tight end position. But they have

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Speaker 1: the Herndon kid, who they really like, a very athletic player.

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Speaker 1: So I think I think Croft is seen as a

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Speaker 1: veteran backup at best, which essentially is what he was

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Speaker 1: Bill's uniform. So he goes to New York to play

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Speaker 1: for the Jets this season, and then you know, there's

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Speaker 1: some other signings that happened. I thought the big one

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Speaker 1: his defense in Chicago, so he's happy to bring him

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Speaker 1: are the Houston Texans loading up on running backs? My god?

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Speaker 1: They just got Philip Lindsay over the weekend, who got

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Speaker 1: only a one year deal, but they have him, David Johnson,

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Speaker 1: and they they have a several other I'm gonna pull

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Speaker 1: it up real quick just so I can make sure

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Speaker 1: I remember every running back they've added to the roster

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Speaker 1: since free agency open. So David Johnson resigned, that was

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Speaker 1: the guy that they acquired in the DeAndre Hopkins straight

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Speaker 1: He resigns for one year, mark Ingram cast off from Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Then they add Philip Lindsay, and then they resigned the

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Speaker 1: and Buddy Howell, who were exclusive rights free agents. So

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Speaker 1: they've got veteran players and then they've got young guys.

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Speaker 1: They got about seven running backs on their roster right now.

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Speaker 1: I think they're really battening down the hatches because of

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Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson scenario, and that got a little ugly

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Speaker 1: really chilled them the interest into Shaun Watson. Although there's

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Speaker 1: a ton of teams that are interested in trading for him,

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Speaker 1: his off the field issues have turned really ugly and

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Speaker 1: really vile. And it's and that has really saying with you.

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Speaker 1: I mean right, I mean you're looking at going if

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Speaker 1: you wanted no part of that. Yeah, Now, I will

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Speaker 1: say into a cesspool, right, Yeah. I will say this

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Speaker 1: because I watched an Outside the Lines report. Jeremy chapp

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Speaker 1: on ESPN does this Outside the Lines show over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: bulk of it dealt with this Deshaun Watson situation because

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Speaker 1: I believe it's up to now seven women that have

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Speaker 1: filed lawsuits against him. I believe they're all civil. I

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Speaker 1: don't think there is a criminal case against him at

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Speaker 1: this point, but they are serious allegations now. According to

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Speaker 1: the report on Outside the Lines on ESPN over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: Watson's representatives said that their response to these charges would

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Speaker 1: come out later this week and that you know, everything

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Speaker 1: will be accounted for. So it doesn't appear as though

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Speaker 1: the Watson camp, for what it's worth, is concerned about

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Speaker 1: having to answer to these allegations. I guess they're pretty

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Speaker 1: confident they will be able to clear his name. They

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Speaker 1: also mentioned in that report, Steve that twice, on two occasions,

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Speaker 1: the attorney who's representing all these women came to Watson

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Speaker 1: with a settlement offer, like pay us some money and

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Speaker 1: this goes away, and he declined both times. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know. We're on the outside looking in, so we

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Speaker 1: don't know where the truth lies. But it'll certainly be

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Speaker 1: interesting if the Watson camp puts together some kind of,

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Speaker 1: you know, public response to these charges, because they are

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Speaker 1: the day. So we'll just have to kind of see

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Speaker 1: where it goes before we go to break, though, we

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Speaker 1: do want to mention to you what our Twitter poll

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Speaker 1: is today. We saw the bills again still active with

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Speaker 1: more of the one year deal varieties as we anticipated.

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Speaker 1: We know that Emmanuel Sanders came on board than Mitchell Trubisky,

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Speaker 1: followed by Jacob Hollister. The tight end late of Seattle

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Speaker 1: and former college teammate of one Josh Allen at Wyoming.

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Speaker 1: So he's in town signing his deal today to make

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Speaker 1: on the show if he has time. We know he's

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Speaker 1: got a busy schedule, so if it can work, great,

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Speaker 1: If not, we'll catch up with him at a later date.

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Speaker 1: But an interesting acquisition here, Steve. We know Tyler Croft

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Speaker 1: Hollister I think is kind of a sneaky intermediate pass

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Speaker 1: catching threat and didn't do too badly in Seattle in

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Speaker 1: his time there. No, you know, it was productive when

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Speaker 1: showed some proficiency in the red zone. So yeah, I'm encouraged.

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Speaker 1: And I would think that because there is a previous

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Speaker 1: rapport between Allen and Hollister, that you know, you could

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Speaker 1: you could cultivate something there as a second tight end

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Speaker 1: with Knox. Yeah, Hollister if Bills fans will remember if

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Speaker 1: except they couldn't be there to watch it except on television.

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Speaker 1: Hollister had seven targets and five catches against the Bills

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Speaker 1: in the Seattle game this year kind of had a

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Speaker 1: nice day. He was the second leading reception guy for

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Speaker 1: receptions against them this last year, and I was like, wow,

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Speaker 1: they went to him a lot and he played well.

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Speaker 1: So sometimes you see that and as it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a coincidence, not too much though, if the

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Speaker 1: guy plays well against you, you're like, hey, check him out, GMS,

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Speaker 1: because you look at the Raiders. They signed Quentin Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: What was his best game last year? Probably Week four

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Speaker 1: against the Raiders. True, some of it happens, and I

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Speaker 1: get it, but Hollister is a guy who played well

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Speaker 1: against the Bills, so at least he won't be playing

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Speaker 1: against you for the Seahawks anymore. Right. So Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: before we go to break Twitter poll today, after seeing

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Speaker 1: some more of these one year signings by the Bills

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Speaker 1: to kind of fill out some of the remaining holes

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Speaker 1: on their raw, what route should the Bills take going

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Speaker 1: forward to address their remaining roster needs. Maybe you think

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Speaker 1: they should just rely on the draft at this point

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Speaker 1: and put a stop to the free agent acquisitions. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you think since they're going for it, they should continue

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Speaker 1: on this path of signing veteran players where you know

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Speaker 1: what you're going to get out of them and you

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Speaker 1: don't have to wait for them to develop so they

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Speaker 1: can contribute right away. Or maybe you're thinking trade route.

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Speaker 1: Let us know which route you think the Bills should

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Speaker 1: take to address they're remaining roster needs. Eight oh three

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Speaker 1: five fifty one, eight fifty two, five fifty the number

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Speaker 1: to get on board. Got an open line for you

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Speaker 1: there or hit us up on the tweet sheet at

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker back in a

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Speaker 1: moment here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve. You're with you on a Monday, and

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Speaker 1: in our next segment we will be getting into the likelihood,

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Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form, of their being a

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Speaker 1: sky judge for the officials on the field in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, the owners will be meeting this our early

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Speaker 1: next week. Give me the from a week from tomorrow

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Speaker 1: they'll be meeting I think virtually, I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: meeting in person and this will be on the table.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that in the next segment, but for

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Speaker 1: now we're taking your phone calls at eight oh three

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Speaker 1: h five fifty as we are asking you what route

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Speaker 1: should the Bills take going forward to address their remaining

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Speaker 1: roster needs. Leaving us off today is one Pete in Hamburg, Pete,

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Speaker 1: what do you have for us on one Bills Live? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll just call and see fob. Do you know what

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Speaker 1: happened to Ken Stills, the guy late in the year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he was on the banded practice squad, as I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you know. Um, did not play in a game,

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Speaker 1: got called up once I think maybe twice, but did

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Speaker 1: its from the practice squad in the event that one

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Speaker 1: of the other players couldn't play, like Beasley somebody like that.

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Speaker 1: I can't even remember at this point. Yeah, Brown also,

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Speaker 1: but he never suited up and played in a game

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Speaker 1: for the Bills last season, and then after the year

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Speaker 1: the contract runs out on the practice squad, they did

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Speaker 1: not resign him, so he is essentially out there as

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Speaker 1: a free agent. Who's this Kenny Stills? Okay, yeah he was,

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Speaker 1: he was a bit. I thought he was a decent receiver. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see. Clearly they thought they had

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Speaker 1: better options on the free agent market, and you know

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Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders is here now. Yeah, yeah, So I don't

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Speaker 1: know if there's room for him on this roster, to

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Speaker 1: be quite honest with you, Pete, but I thank you

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Speaker 1: for the call and hope we brought you up to

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Speaker 1: speed on that he's he's a free agent. He's out

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Speaker 1: there if you want him. Yeah, there's a yeah that

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys out there. I mean that

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Speaker 1: it's stuff guys. We go down this list and I'm like, who,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know these guys. I've never heard of them, right,

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Speaker 1: So they're they're kind of guy. And you go down

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Speaker 1: the list too, and you'll see even on the tight

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Speaker 1: end free agent list, Tyler Croft is like near the

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Speaker 1: top quarter of those guys, which is like how they

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Speaker 1: would see them ranked. Say they go out, Tyler Croft

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Speaker 1: is okay, Well, everybody below him, somebody thinks less of

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Speaker 1: them than they do Tyler Croft. So who couldn't get

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Speaker 1: when Dawson Knox was healthy? So that's what you're looking

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Speaker 1: at as the as the free agent market right now.

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Speaker 1: And you know we're asking you what you what you

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Speaker 1: should do about the rest of the needs of the

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Speaker 1: Bill's roster has and we all kind of agree on

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Speaker 1: who we're looking at. An edge rusher, maybe a corner um.

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Speaker 1: You still need a swing tackle, swing tackle, maybe even

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Speaker 1: another tight end if you know, if you're Hollister is

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Speaker 1: not your thing, But you know, all how would you

639
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: go by doing it? Because the guy's out there? On

640
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: free agency? There's always a chance you see a guy, well,

641
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: like two years ago, he played really well, and he

642
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: got injured last year and he's a free agent or

643
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: something along those guys. As he bounced back really well,

644
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: is he still got something in the tank? He's thirty three,

645
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: but he really hasn't played a lot in the last

646
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: three years, and that kind of thing. But he was

647
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: on a team with really good offensive line who never

648
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: got hurt. That kind of thing. Can you find a

649
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: guy way down the list on free agents that you

650
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: can get who's got something left in the tank and

651
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: who's waiting for an opportunity. It's a lot of ifs

652
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: and qualifiers to get a guy like that, but ever

653
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: you can get it at an affordable price. It's low risk, yeah, conceivably,

654
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: but it's also the chances of him coming in hitting

655
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: home run are like minuscule, non existent. He's just going

656
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: to be another guy. Yeah, And at this stage in

657
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: the game, you're just looking for somebody that can play

658
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: a role for you. You're not looking for some major

659
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: contributor to like the world on fire. At this point

660
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: in time, especially with a roster as deep as Buffalo's,

661
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: you're just I mean, you've outlined they need a swing tackle,

662
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 1: they need somebody to compete here for the second corner job.

663
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: And you know, tight end still is down two players,

664
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: well down one player now from what it was last

665
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: week when they traded Lee Smith and Tyler Craft signed

666
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: in New York. You filled one of those holes with

667
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: Jacob Hollister, but you still got another one. Is Tommy

668
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: Sweeney back? Yes or no? The good indication is that

669
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: he seems to be recovered from his medical issues from

670
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: the myocarditis as a result of having COVID. In terms

671
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: of what Brandon Bean said, he looks forward to seeing

672
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: him back in the fold. So it looks like he's

673
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: going to be fine to at least be on the

674
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: offseason roster. But do you think you need to do

675
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: better than that for your third tight end? Do you

676
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: need a true blocking tight end, Like these are things

677
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: they have to still cover. One last position they got

678
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: a film is third running back. T J. Yelden is

679
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: not here. They've got Christian Wade Williams and Tonio Williams,

680
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: and they've got Taiwan Jones who they just signed back

681
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: who's not an option to you know, they want him

682
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: on teams. Yeah, but you want to get a third

683
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: guy like like t J. Yelden was last year, you

684
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: can play special teams come in and when if Moss

685
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: is out with a twisted ankle or you know, or

686
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary's down, you bring a guy who's had some

687
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: inex fell experience into the fold. So they're looking for

688
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: that guy along with all the other positions you've you've

689
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: mentioned so and these are guys that that you anticipate

690
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: at some point during the season, will you'll need a

691
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: contribution from those guys. They're gonna get a chance to play.

692
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: This is like your third running back. He's gonna get

693
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: a chance to play your third tight end or second

694
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: tight end. If he's that good, it's gonna get a

695
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: chance to play your swing tackle. You hope he doesn't,

696
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: but he probably will have to take some rest, right,

697
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: So there's all these spots that these guys right now,

698
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: maybe you're not looking for him to come in and

699
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: plug in at left guard and go, yeah, you're you're

700
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: gonna play no, but man oh man, at some point

701
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: during the and you're gonna have to this guy that

702
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: we don't even know who it's going to be yet,

703
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: is going to contribute to this count on You got

704
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: to count on them eight oh three oh five fifty

705
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: one fifty two five fifty. What route should the Bills

706
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: take to address their remaining roster needs? Back to the

707
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: phones into Dan in Buffalo, Dan, what do you have

708
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: for us? You're on one Bills Live. Hi, thanks for

709
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: we're seeing my call. Yeah, I've been looking at it,

710
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: and uh, to me, it's very similar to what Chris

711
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: Steve has been saying, which is, um, I think that

712
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: you need to get one more offensive line player and

713
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: two defensive line players in the free agency. Okay, are

714
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: you thinking of the one year variety or like just

715
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: to kind of fill a hole right now or what? Well?

716
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: Um M, I think there's definitely a hole to be

717
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: filled there. Um but uh, I don't think it has

718
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: to be a one your deal. But it'd be nice

719
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: if they could could manage that. But um yeah, I

720
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: think you know, um, I don't think they're gonna gonna

721
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: gonna get a watt layer, No, no, now right now.

722
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: But maybe maybe there's somebody out there. You know, the

723
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: offensive line, I think you can go, you can go

724
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: pretty liberal with that because I think that person will

725
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: get a chance to prove himself and you know, have

726
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: the um um yeah, have the cream and the crop

727
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: rights to the top. Um with that. With the offensive line,

728
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: But as far as the defensive line, I think you

729
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: got to get somebody who has a proven record to

730
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: be able to get to the quarterback definitely, you know,

731
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: maybe not necessarily high on the sacks, but definitely to

732
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback on a regular basis, and then maybe they

733
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: can work him into the system to be able to

734
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: get get more sacks. Okay, thanks Dan, we appreciate the call.

735
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you'd like to have a better pass rusher.

736
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're a little long in the tooth at

737
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: that position right now. Yes, you have young guys in

738
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: the pipeline in the form of a Japanessa and Daryl Johnson,

739
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: but Addison's entering his age thirty four season. Jerry Hughes

740
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: is entering his age thirty three season, and I think

741
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: Hughes is on the last year of his contract, so

742
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be against them trying to add there in

743
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: some way, shape or form, But in all likelihood it's

744
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 1: probably gonna be on like a one year type deal

745
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: at this point in time because I think defensive ends. No,

746
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: they're not going to get the money they had hoped.

747
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: I know people are constantly throwing out the fact that

748
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: Clowney's still sitting out there. To me, I don't know

749
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: that he fits the DNA and players that Buffalo typically

750
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: looks for. So there's that, And you know a lot

751
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: of the names that we're at the top of the

752
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: list have found homes to this point. Um, So I

753
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be easier said than done to find

754
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: the right mix in terms of DNA. You're looking for

755
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: proven production and affordable price, right, and who you're looking at,

756
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: who's it gonna be? Um? The top guy on this

757
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: list twenty seven years old from Kansas City, U Taco,

758
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: Charlton Well, he resigned with one. Then you've got Carlos Dunlap, right,

759
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: he's still out there Clowney, Justin Houston thirty two, Ryan

760
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: Kerrigan thirty three, Tyrone Crawford thirty two. Try. I mean

761
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: that's when Dan calls in and says, who's it gonna be. Yeah,

762
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: I mean there's your there's your list. The next guy

763
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: on the list behind Try Tyrone Crawford, who's thirty two

764
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: from Dallas, is Trent Murphy thirty one, who's obviously from Buffalo. Um.

765
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: But that kind of shows you what you're looking at.

766
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: That's those are the guys. Everson Griffin, Bruce Irvin thirty four,

767
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: Alan Bailey thirty two. I mean you want to take

768
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: a chance on a young kid, you could take the

769
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: al Kadeine Mohammed kid out of Indie. Um. Of course

770
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: that was the kid Ronald Blair twenty off sides here

771
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: in the playoff game. Then you got a couple of

772
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: down here. You got a couple of twenty seven year olds,

773
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: one from Denver, DeMarcus Walker and Tano Passengo. Passengo, Yeah,

774
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: he's twenty seven from from Kansas City. Jabal Shared. Jabal

775
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: Shared could play back in the day. He's thirty two now,

776
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: so not allowed to choose from. Yeah. So if you're

777
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna get a guy that with all the qualifications that

778
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: our caller Dan just said, Well, you know who's gonna

779
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: which one of those guys you really think is gonna

780
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: brobly do that. It's a short list, a long list

781
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: of guys who can't make it to your short list

782
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: really in my opinion, right, I mean, yeah, that's what

783
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: we're looking at, and that's you can You can grab

784
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: one of those guys and you can sign them to

785
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: approve it. Deal, what if they don't prove it? Yeah? Yeah,

786
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: all right, we have to take a break, But Jamar

787
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: and Buffalo Izzy Bob, hang tight. We'll get to you

788
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: when we return here on One Bills Live, presented by

789
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: Kalid to Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

790
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: to One Bills Live here on this Monday reminder. In

791
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: our next day, and we'll be talking to NFL Executive

792
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent, obviously a former

793
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: defensive back in the league for fifteen seasons, also played

794
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: with the Bills here for a couple of years. So

795
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: we'll be catching up with Troy on the other side

796
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: of the one o'clock our. But we gotta get back

797
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: to the phones, right now and leading us off is

798
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: Jamar in Buffalo? Jamar, what do you have for us?

799
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: You're on one bills live. Hey Chris, Hey Steve? Are

800
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: you doing today? Well? Great? Great? Okay? I had I

801
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: had UM some some some some uh. I want to

802
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: know what you guys thought about a few players. I

803
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: had thought about um and I asked something to say

804
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: about Josh Allen also before I ended. So let me

805
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: get to the questions. I want to know what you guys,

806
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: how you guys feel about Keywan short uh and Karlos Dunlop.

807
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: I feel like those guys could really, really really help us,

808
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: and you know, push pushing Mario Addison to the bench

809
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: and let me come off the bench because I feel

810
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 1: like he could play Jerry Hu side better. I feel

811
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: like he didn't do good on the other side when

812
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: him and Jerry played together last year, and I feel

813
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: like he could play better. Just you know, southing that

814
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: for Jerry, and let Kilos start and you know, Keiwan

815
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: next to uh D because you know Star, when Star

816
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: was healthy, you still didn't have a good rundee, So

817
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: I feel like that's not gonna work. And then what's

818
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: your thought on Josh Allen and to you. We'll answer

819
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: those questions in just a second. Okay, a little brief

820
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: history on josh I was in the movie theater with

821
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: a cousin of mis movie who brought up josh Aton

822
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: sent me before the draft, and I'm like, okay, I'm

823
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: gonna look at story. So I looked into him and

824
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's a pretty good quarterback. So when we

825
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: drafted him, I'm like, you know, we got one. And

826
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: then you know, everything happened just like I thought it would,

827
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: and you know, he's who who we thought he would

828
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: be at this point. And I feel like he's gonna

829
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: get better as long as we make those moves on

830
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: defense we got, we got the offense. Maybe we need

831
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: a running back. Moss is good. We just need somebody

832
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: else to Seling. We need, we need speed. Maybe we

833
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: can get in a draft or maybe that Williams Gard. Yeah,

834
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: that's that's all I have today, Fellas. All right, it

835
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: sounds good. Thanks for the calls, Mr, appreciate it all right. Uh,

836
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: I know you're a fan of Carlos done Lap I

837
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: am as well. He's thirty two. Yeah, he played very

838
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: well for the Cincinnati Bengals when he was there and

839
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: then he was he got he went to Wash via

840
00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: trade and he's a good player, long, power forward, kind

841
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: of built guy, got some length. Yeah, tackles can't get

842
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: their hands on it. That's why he's effective. And yeah,

843
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm all about it. I think he'd help. Yeah, I

844
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: doually help. I think he can really go. So I'm

845
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: with you on that. Come on, short, I couldn't tell you.

846
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about former Pro Bowl defensive tackle

847
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: down in Carolina. A people mover for a man his size.

848
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Speaker 1: He is uncommonly athletic, and he actually played alongside Star

849
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: at times, but would also play the one technique. So yeah,

850
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's a guy that they are wholly familiar with,

851
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: and you know, whether they feel they need him or

852
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: if they feel that's doubling up in a position, I

853
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm going back to Brandon Bean's comments from

854
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: his press conference with Sean McDermott last week, where he said,

855
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: we're still interested in some things out there on the market,

856
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 1: but they're just too expensive for us right now. He said,

857
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: so we have to be patient. And I think what

858
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: he means by that is a see if the price

859
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: comes down on some of those guys or b move

860
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: on and look for another option because that one is

861
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: too steep a price and we don't have the cap

862
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: room to accommodate it. And so Dunlap I would I

863
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: would consider someone to be of that ilk, someone who's

864
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: gonna still probably cost them too much money on the

865
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: open market right now, which is why he probably hasn't

866
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,479
Speaker 1: resigned anywhere, let alone Buffalo. So Geno Atkins is out there.

867
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: I like Geno Atkins as much as I like anybody

868
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: else on this list. Although you know thirty three, I mean,

869
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: you're it's rough. He started injuries if started to catch

870
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: up with him to a little bit, But everybody else

871
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: on this list is like Push is thirty. Antoine Woods

872
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: is high on this list. He's twenty eight from Dallas,

873
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: but he's signed defensive signed defensive tackles. Now yeah right,

874
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking about defensive tackles Quan because of Kauan Short

875
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: that he mentioned. So yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be

876
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: surprised if they look at the defensive tackle market. They're

877
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: gonna bring some guys back, but they've got they've got

878
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: four that we know of, and Edge Ed Oliver, Starlo

879
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: Tu Lele Harrison Phillips and Justin zimmer Um. Don't know

880
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: if they'll want to get another guy to add into

881
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: that mix or not. We'll see. We have to take

882
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: a break, but when we come back, it is NFL

883
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent joining us.

884
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: He'll be with us for the second hour of the

885
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 1: program when we return. Here on One Bills Live, presented

886
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio Adam Steve Tasker,

887
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: who has been all over the fields. Kind of unique.

888
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you. Steve,

889
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the straded beer

890
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: of normalcy. Welcome to our number two of one Bills Live.

891
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and without any further ado,

892
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: we go to the phone lines and bringing us in

893
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: on a zoom call. Here anyway, is NFL Executive vice

894
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: President of Football Operations Troy Vincent joining us here and Troy,

895
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: good to see your face, good to talk to you.

896
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: And I guess we should start with the news that

897
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: the league released today. NFL Draft is going to take

898
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: place in Cleveland. It looks like it's the virtual Days

899
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: of the draft at least are partially over. Well, let

900
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: me begin by just saying what you two are some

901
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: of my favorite people, two of my favorite people. Oh wow,

902
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: look at that he's laying it on early here, Steve.

903
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: I just want to say, Chris, you were an intricate

904
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: part of kind of who I was and what I

905
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: did in the community when I was a bill And

906
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: just Steve, you know, just respect that I have for

907
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: you as a player, as a legend in Miami, watching

908
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: you dominate us for many years. Thanks for having me again.

909
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: The draft. Yes, it's here, and there were some things

910
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: that we learned last year from a virtual standpoint that

911
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: will incorporate this here. But the plans are to have

912
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: a live event. I began reaching out to prospects to

913
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: see if it's something that they would wouldn't mind joining

914
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: us and us celebrating their collegiate careers and as we

915
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: look towards the future stars, so we're looking forward to

916
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: going to Cleveland. One thing is, since you're laying it

917
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: on thick for us, let me just say this, I

918
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: gotta congratulate. I don't know how much you've heard of this.

919
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: I think it was one of the great accomplishments in

920
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: American sports. For you guys to get two hundred and

921
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: fifty six regular season games in during the global pandemic

922
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: and the playoffs and the Super Bowl, certainly there were

923
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: some snaffoos and some hiccups along the way, But to

924
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 1: get all two hundred and fifty six games in, what

925
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: was the attitude in the office there at Park Avenue

926
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: in the office when you guys got all those games

927
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: and you had to take a great deal of pride

928
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: in that. Yes, And I would say it began with teamwork.

929
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: When people talk about like the values of our game

930
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: and what the values? What does the game do? I

931
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: saw a team work Steve at his best. I saw

932
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: people working together for a common interest. That's the player,

933
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: that's the coach, that's the principal owner, that's the players association.

934
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: We were just aiming towards. Hey, we gotta be flexible.

935
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: Don't ever take it personal. It's not going to be equal.

936
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: We talk about equity all the time, and we have

937
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: to follow the science. And that's really like, Okay, what's

938
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: the barometer we begin every discussion, what's the medical community saying?

939
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: How can we apply that to our daily business? And

940
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: I would just say the teamwork and doctor seals Jeff Miller,

941
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: Donna Ponte who works directly with myself without and Larry

942
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: VERIZONI I've shared this with the commissioner and others all

943
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: the time. It does not happen. They were the glue

944
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 1: to getting seventeen games, I mean two hundred and fifty

945
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: six games in seventeen weeks. Every week we had to

946
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: adjust and we did it. I mean a compliment the

947
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: players of coaches. Everyone had to remain flexible. I got worried,

948
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: maybe once or twice that we were running out of

949
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: options as we saw the infection take place in different cities. Okay,

950
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: as we started marching sewards week thirteen, we start losing

951
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: some of our options and flexibility on schedule. But we

952
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: did it, got to the playoffs and had a fabulous

953
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. How was it? Troy? Maybe just take us

954
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: behind the scenes a little bit in some of those

955
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: moments that raised the level of stress in dealing with

956
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: pivoting front and reacting to some of the things that

957
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: the virus was doing in various NFL cities, Like did

958
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: you guys just have doctor Sills on speed dial? I mean,

959
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: was I mean this guy like I know with all

960
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: of us go speed dial, zoom, dow you call it,

961
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: and Chris I would say this. We started off one

962
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: way and as the season progressed, week three of the

963
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: contact tracing we had. We didn't have that figured out

964
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: early on, but I believe once we I once we

965
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: realize how the contact tracing worked inside of the system

966
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: the process, once we were able to identify, isolate, and

967
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: contain possible spread, then we were able to move forward

968
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: with scheduling a game. Once we got those strength, those

969
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: three areas down, we knew it. That process took about

970
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: six weeks into the regular season, but once we got

971
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: it again, identify the problem, isolate the problem, then contain it.

972
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: Now we were able to schedule games. And as you

973
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: and now with the season that has happened, you got

974
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: moved into the offseason. Free agency has gone off without

975
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: a hitch so far. Now you're looking at the draft.

976
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 1: How is the seventeenth game? What kind of curveball has

977
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: that made, if any? For the scheduling for facility of

978
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: a ability? You know, you know stadiums, the equity of

979
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: an odd number of games, Um, how is that? You know?

980
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: How's that formulated? No? No, no, eyeball, Steve, I look

981
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: at it as just from my view now as I'm

982
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: thinking back as a a former player, it actually presents

983
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: some some opportunities here. Want some flexibility, maybe on the

984
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: international front, but I like the idea of being able

985
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: to create some competitiveness inside the conference, being able to

986
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: schedule some some games that you that we the schedule

987
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: doesn't allow us to do in sixteen games, but there's

988
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: some matchups I think that we all would like to

989
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: see in conference that I think that I believe the

990
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: seventeen game that flexibility it allows us to do so. Again,

991
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: the odd number will just deal with that. I do

992
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: believe eventually will get to um to potentially even making

993
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: that even. But I believe both the players, obviously the fans,

994
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: this is a win win for all club ownership, players, fans.

995
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: They could be good for the game. I really do.

996
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: And then, just with respect Troy, and you may not

997
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: be able to answer this because there's not enough information

998
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: for the league to make a decision yet, but just

999
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: with respect to OTA's and mini camps, which we all

1000
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: know we're fully virtual last year, it still doesn't look

1001
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: like it's come into complete focus in terms of what

1002
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: you'll be able to and not to do. Because we're

1003
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: dealing with a national vaccine nation rollout, we know that

1004
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: twenty and thirty somethings are not going to be high

1005
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: on the vaccination list. So we may very well get

1006
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: to April and May and even June and there might

1007
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: still be an awful lot of players out there who

1008
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: have not been vaccinated. Are there certain things bars you

1009
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: guys are trying to clear before you can say, you

1010
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: know what? We can have an in person OTA schedule

1011
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: or an in person June mini camp schedule. Well, that

1012
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: conversation is a daily conversation. I had had an opportunity

1013
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: to participate at least last week's call with chrman Mara,

1014
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: Commissioner Goodell and D and JC Tredder to talk about, Okay,

1015
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: what does phase one, Phase two, and phase three look like?

1016
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: Always following the science, I think Doctor Seals has taught

1017
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: us all that we should. We're still in a pandemic

1018
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: and there were things that worked last offseason from a

1019
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: virtual standpoint, So what's the integration being reasonable and responsible

1020
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: we saw at work last year or elements at work.

1021
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: We're in a different place now. Vaccinations are now increasing

1022
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: we see in hospitalization race are now decreasing. What can

1023
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: we do to be responsible both for the organization, the players,

1024
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: the staffs that are there coming back in the rookies,

1025
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: the veterans. So that's a daily conversation and I think

1026
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: it would be resolved here fairly quickly. But when I

1027
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: say both sides, meaning cha Chairman Marra d Commissioner Larry

1028
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,479
Speaker 1: VERIZONI the teams are working. Hey, let's try to find

1029
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: be reasonable and responsible getting the guys back and where

1030
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: we do know one thing, the club facilities are the

1031
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: safest places for the for the men to work out.

1032
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: Many are coming in down to rehab. We really the clubs,

1033
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: the coaches, the players, they don't want to be off

1034
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: site working out. Let's get him into a secure facility

1035
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: which we've seen works over the last year and see

1036
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: if we can we can put some things together to

1037
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: get the guys back into the facility to get prepared

1038
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: for this next run. I know, with everything else on

1039
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: your on your plate, with the COVID and trying to

1040
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: get guys, like you say, all these things, these extra

1041
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: layers of difficulty that you guys have to navigate through.

1042
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: What about the old things that we always worry about

1043
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: in the off season, like rule changes, and we've heard

1044
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: rumors that they're going to consider a sky judge for

1045
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: these games. What is the what's on the front and center,

1046
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: what's on the front burner for that stuff. Well, tomorrow

1047
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: we actually complete our committee report, so we have our

1048
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: final competition committee call. It's been interesting, you know, from

1049
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: the booth official that was a proposal that was submitted

1050
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: by the Baltimore Ravens of a booth judge. We think

1051
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: we're in a good place with replay and an administration

1052
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: of replay. There's been some we see Philadelphia submitted the

1053
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen, so we've had some interesting as we

1054
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: always do that the committee vets and this is where

1055
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: I love Steve. I love the democratic process. And the

1056
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: Bills had a resolution that they proposed about moving the

1057
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: hiring cycle towards to a Super Bowl play or after

1058
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: the championship run. So there's a different different opinions of

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Speaker 1: why we should why we shouldn't. I just find it interesting.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that I'm proud of of each of

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00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 1: the proposals that have come in both from the club

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00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: and from the committee is the possible elimination of the

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00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: cut block, and that's something that are our medical staff,

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01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: doctor Yorke and his committee and a biocre team trying

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01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: to reduce unnecessary risk that mobile block, that blocking in

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01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,959
Speaker 1: space creates the unnecessary risk that we don't want one

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01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: from a head of neck injury standpoint and lower extremity injuries.

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01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: So seeing that as a as a former player and

1069
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: being able to appreciate taking things out of game to

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01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: just people, you know, it's just not good for the

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01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: game to see that proposal being submitted by our coaches subcommittee,

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Speaker 1: the Competition Committee and the efforts that we've made eliminating

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01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: the blindside block. We look at kickoff, kickoff return, the

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01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: better better helmets, the elimination of the cut block in

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01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: the box, which which we'll see and we'll discuss that

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01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: tackle to tackle box eliminating that and then out in space,

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01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, so you can still cut inside of that

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01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: that tackle box, but in space eliminating that. That's good

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01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: for the bigs as well as the guys want to

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01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: back end. Talking to NFL Executive Vice President of Football

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Speaker 1: Operations Troy Vincent and Troy, I know you've kind of

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01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: been front and center in playing a role with the

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Speaker 1: diversity and inclusion initiatives in the league, and we saw

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Speaker 1: at least some measure of traction at the GM level.

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01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: Martin Mayhew, Brad Holmes, Terry Fontineau. We've seen some measure

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Speaker 1: of traction with respect to women in the game. You know,

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Speaker 1: coaches being hired, officials now on staffs across the league.

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01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: You know officiating games got a couple of women now

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01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: in the fold. So what about the coaching ranks though,

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01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: that I think is where a lot of people feel.

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01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: You know, the hirings kind of came up short. David

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01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: Culley obviously was a new ad as a person of color.

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01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: But where where do you guys kind of forge the

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01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: path forward and do you have to change it in

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01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: terms of the means and the initiatives you're trying to

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01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: undertake here to foster a greater degree of change than

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01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: we're seeing right now at the coaching level. Because I

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01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: would say daily conversation and you nailed it. There was

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01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: progress when you look at the totality. We didn't end

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01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: up where we thought we would from a head coaching standpoint,

1101
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: but we do celebrate and I think it's important that

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01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: we acknowledge those who were able to obtain those leadership roles.

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01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: You mentioned the three GMS. You look at Anthony Lee Lynn,

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01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: you look at where we ended up with some of

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01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: the Damco Ryan. We made progress in a lot of

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01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: different areas. So today we examined from the policies, from

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01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: our identification of talent, the gender side. I mean, I'm

1108
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: still having a hard time putting my arms around why

1109
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: are we still having this discussion around inclusion and gender,

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01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: Like we're almost sadding that we just began twenty twenty

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01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: one and we still are talking about inequalities for women.

1112
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: Like that blows my mind. This is where we as

1113
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: men like we gotta just we need There are more

1114
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: men that believe anyclusion in any equality than those who don't.

1115
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: We just got to keep forging forward. So hey, we'll

1116
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: re examine under Desiah Smith and Cherman Rooney's leadership. We're

1117
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: examined in the policies. Anything need to be tweaked in

1118
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: a Rooney rule, anything needs to be tweaked in our

1119
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: anti tampering policy. We'll look at the proposed the resolution

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01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: that was submitted by Buffalo. It's a daily talk, is

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01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: a daily discussion. We think we're in a good spot

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01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: based off of some of the things that were implemented

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01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: a year ago. Again, didn't make the progress we did

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01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: on the head coaching side, but we made a lot,

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01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: righthemore a lot of progress in the hiring totality, but

1126
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: we got some work to do so and we just

1127
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: heard this off season that Maya Chaka becomes the first

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01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: you know, she's gonna be an actual she's gonna be

1129
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: a white hat. Correct, yes, so she's a line jet.

1130
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: So it's once again we talk about historical moments. Come on,

1131
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: we need to normalize these things. I mean, Sarah Thomas

1132
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: was had a wonderful season. She was the first female official.

1133
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: We got my the first African American. We gotta normalize

1134
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: these things, which starts with presenting opportunities for both women,

1135
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: women and people of color. So again we gotta just

1136
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna put the onus on the men,

1137
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: the men that lead these organizations, that are that run

1138
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: these organizations. We gotta we gotta get current. We gotta

1139
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: become current in our thinking from trainers. We should be

1140
01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: instituting women and talent across forget color, but we should

1141
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: be looking for the best. But I'm happy about Mashaka.

1142
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: I mean, think about this, one hundred and one years

1143
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: of football prison. We had our first black crew Week eleven,

1144
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: had another Week seventeen that most didn't notice. We got

1145
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: to normalize those things. We shouldn't be talking about that,

1146
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: not in twenty twenty one. So it just shows you, Hey,

1147
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: the National Football League, like other organizations, we got work

1148
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: to do. But if we want to be the premium

1149
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: sport and what we call the true melting pot of America,

1150
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: we look at our fan base. We could represent excellence.

1151
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: We could do that, We could be a model, we

1152
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,919
Speaker 1: could be a living example of what it can be.

1153
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to it. I'm hopeful. I'm happy

1154
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: that leadership is aiming in that direction, and I'm looking

1155
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: forward to this offseason. And I know I don't have

1156
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: to tell you or Steve this, but sports in general,

1157
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: you know, is probably ahead of the curve in most

1158
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: cases in terms of multicultural integration because the locker room

1159
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: can be made up of just about anybody. But you know,

1160
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: I kind of go back. It's almost a year ago. Now,

1161
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: it's crazy to think about this, but on the heels

1162
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: of the George Floyd incident, I know that our organization

1163
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: had Leslie Frasier get together with everybody on a zoom

1164
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: call and kind of lead a zoom call. And I

1165
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: know you know Leslie well because he was your DB's

1166
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: coach with the Eagles, But I gotta tell you, Troy,

1167
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: it was one of the most eye opening zoom calls

1168
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: that I have ever been a part of. And I

1169
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: know zoom was very young at that time, but like

1170
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: we were sitting down and I think I consider myself

1171
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: a pretty well rounded and cultured person in terms of

1172
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: respecting other people's cultures and backgrounds. But just the emotion

1173
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: that he brought to it was just so eye opening,

1174
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: even for me, a person that grew up in the

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01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: greater New York City area who was exposed to a

1176
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: wide variety of backgrounds, just because New York is such

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01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: a melting pot. Just the knowledge base that someone like

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01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier can come from, I just think it's such

1179
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: a valuable tool for this league to utilize going forward. Yes,

1180
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: and Chris, we lived at out our sport. I mean,

1181
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: think about this task. The one thing we know, we're

1182
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: in the locker room game day. The last thing we

1183
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: think about is color. Hey, when you are not huddle.

1184
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: It was about Jim Thurman. Andre. I mean you would

1185
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: just think about let's just make the play here, who

1186
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: got the ball or what color he or she was.

1187
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: But the organization, all of our organizations you mentioned, Leslie,

1188
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: Each of our organizations are made up of great men

1189
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: and women. Sometimes we're not willing to listen and here

1190
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: we're at that place now. I think our society in

1191
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,479
Speaker 1: twenty twenty day was a true turning and a true

1192
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: awakening for all. So each of our organizations have great

1193
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: people like um, great players. We just have to be

1194
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: willing to listen and here because we do have differences,

1195
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: which are good, but we got to have civic conversation,

1196
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: civil conversation so that we can move forward. Troy, last

1197
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,799
Speaker 1: last thing I gotta ask him is about the coming season.

1198
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: You had a lot of work to do with yourselves,

1199
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: de Marie Smith. You know, JC Treader, the Union, and

1200
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: the league really had to work together this last season

1201
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: to get a lot of things done. Is there any

1202
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: issues that you guys still have to iron out. You

1203
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: don't have to give us details, but are there big

1204
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: issues that are I mean, you just signed a deal,

1205
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: but you had to almost renegotiate it immediately to get

1206
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 1: the season going. What what other things issues are? First

1207
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 1: of all, from the league's perspective, what issues do you

1208
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 1: want to talk to the union about going forward? And

1209
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: what do they want to talk to you about going forward?

1210
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: What's the what's the next thing on the labor relations front.

1211
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any issue Steve here. I think

1212
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 1: we showed last year and I think say year before last,

1213
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: you put a ten year labor agreement in place, you

1214
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: get through a you put two hundred and fifty six

1215
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: games in seventeen weeks, you had a successful Super Bowl.

1216
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 1: I think it showed all of us the power of

1217
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: collaboration and teamwork. We got through two hundred and fifty

1218
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: six game. If we can get through that, come on

1219
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: phase one, phase two of an off season, and just

1220
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: signed a media deal, which is good for the game

1221
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: for everyone. The fan doesn't want to hear anybody talk

1222
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: about millionaires and billionaires talking about paragraph five and who's

1223
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: making what they want to see games. They want to

1224
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: start building a fantasy football team. I do. There's no

1225
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: no pending issues, nothing that we can't resolve or leadership,

1226
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: and I think this is what d and Commissioner Goodell

1227
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 1: has done. Day forced. There's nothing like labor peace. And

1228
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 1: when you have labor peace, the pandemic is a example.

1229
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: If you can get through that, there's nothing we can't

1230
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: discuss or we can't resolve. The fans want to see games,

1231
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: the players want to play, and club principal owners want

1232
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: to see the fandom that exists in the thirty two cities, Troy,

1233
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: real quick before we let you go, Just getting back

1234
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 1: to our initial issue thing that we brought up, the

1235
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: NFL Draft being in Cleveland. I saw NFL Networks Judy

1236
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 1: Batista did tweet out that we don't know yet in

1237
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 1: terms of how many fans will be allowed to congregate

1238
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: there and enjoy the draft over the two or three days.

1239
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,839
Speaker 1: I'm guessing you guys are kind of at the mercy

1240
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 1: of what the municipal protocols are at that time come

1241
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: late April, so you're kind of in a holding pattern,

1242
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 1: is that right? Yes, And it's always been that way.

1243
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: Always go through CDC guidelines, state and local regulations, and

1244
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: then we go back to doctor Seals and his team

1245
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: and we had Jeff from there. All right, very good

1246
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: throws A pleasure to speak to you. Thanks for giving

1247
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: us some time today. We appreciate it, you man, thank you,

1248
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: appreciate you both. All right. That's Troy Vincent, NFL vice

1249
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: President of Operations. UH And I mean the guy even

1250
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: when he was playing here, Steve Um. You just have

1251
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: a conversation with him and it's like, Okay, the lights

1252
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 1: are on here right in a big way. Like you

1253
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: know when you're in a in a conversation with somebody

1254
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: that's qualified, they're they're in the loop. They're in the loop.

1255
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: The lights are on, and you know, yeah, they're they're

1256
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: on it, and not just maybe football, but on a

1257
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: lot of things, like they just have their hands in

1258
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 1: a lot of jars and there's there's this base of

1259
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: knowledge that is readily identifiable. Right even when he was

1260
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: still a player, Yeah, he was one of the few

1261
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: guys I know that when he became a Buffalo Bill

1262
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: and was here for you know, two years or so,

1263
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: he had had a couple of conversations with uh, with

1264
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: Ralph Wilson, who was still around on a day to

1265
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: day basis occasionally especially season, and he had a couple

1266
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 1: of conversations with Ralph and was an impressed Ralph. And

1267
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 1: I think Ralph was one of the people who was like,

1268
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: you know, we need to tap into this guy as

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Speaker 1: a league And certainly Troy was, as you can tell,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just a tremendous asset to not only the league,

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01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: but he was to all the franchise that he played

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01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: for in his fifteen year career as a player. Yeah,

1273
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: and it was a shame because he meant he only

1274
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 1: played in seven games in that O four season. He

1275
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: kind of got back on the field for the tail

1276
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: end of that six game winning streak down the stretch

1277
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the season when the Bills got

1278
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: themselves back into playoff contention. And I was not going

1279
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 1: to bring up a sore subject of that week seventeen

1280
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: game against Pittsburgh here in the stadium where it was

1281
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: winning in and they didn't get it. I was not

1282
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: going there, not going there. But yeah, and he was.

1283
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: He was a strong veteran influence on guys like Nay

1284
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: Clements and young players like that here in his two

1285
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 1: years that he was here. So wasn't here long, but

1286
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: he did make an impact. So always good to talk

1287
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: to Troy. We have to take a break here, but

1288
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,520
Speaker 1: izz he hang on the line. You've been waiting patiently

1289
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 1: to chime in, and we're eager to hear from you,

1290
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 1: so you'll be first up on the phone lines at

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Speaker 1: eight oh three, five fifty. When we return here on

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health. This is

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01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. We'll go back to One Bill's Live.

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01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: Chris Brown Steve cast your review. Second half of the

1295
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 1: show under way. A good conversation there with Troy Vincent,

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01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: NFL executive vice president of Operations, and I gotta say,

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01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm it's hard not to be encouraged, No, when the

1298
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: draft is going to be more of an in person

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01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: thing than a virtual thing, much more normal. Got to

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01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: feel where coming out of the valley here they're gonna

1301
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: invite about the plan is right now to invite about

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01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: as many prospects. I mean, you know college guys. Uh,

1303
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: first round for sure guys maybe is usually twenty something guys.

1304
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 1: They don't they don't get thirty they can't get thirty

1305
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 1: two right, but they can get like twenty right. They

1306
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: bring in about twenty guys they think are probably gonna

1307
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: go in the first round, and uh, and significant others

1308
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: with them. And then they're also gonna like I said,

1309
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: they're gonna have about three hundred maybe four hundred people

1310
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: in this inner circle, real close to the stage where

1311
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: they can and they're gonna be a representation of the

1312
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: entire league, twelve people from each franchise picked by the

1313
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: franchise to go. Could be fans, could be could even

1314
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 1: be employees, you know whatever, valued employees or long time

1315
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: employees or season ticket holders, corporate whoever. Um. That's gonna happen.

1316
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: And then the rest of it is just, you know,

1317
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: we gotta wait and see how they're gonna set up,

1318
01:14:55,720 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 1: what the venue looks like, how socially distant it needs

1319
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 1: to be, the number of fans, it's all it seems

1320
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: to be at this point. It's going to be outdoors,

1321
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: so and it should be right down probably down on

1322
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: the flats there in Cleveland, right, I mean, it's going

1323
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: to be down there near the river so and with

1324
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 1: Lake Erie in the background. So we'll see. But the

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01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,719
Speaker 1: drafts kind of come back a little bit more normal

1326
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: than it was a year ago. Eight oh three oh

1327
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty.

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01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: What route should the Bills now take to address their

1329
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,719
Speaker 1: remaining roster needs? We want your comments on that, and

1330
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: we have an open line for you at eight O

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01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 1: three oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two

1332
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: five fifty But waiting patiently has been is he? And

1333
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: we go to him? Now? Is he? What do you

1334
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: have for us? You're at one bills Live, Hey, good

1335
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: afternoon you guys. Well, I think the Bill should just

1336
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: stand pat until the draft because we don't know who

1337
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: we're going to get at thirty, whether it be a

1338
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: deep back you know, and ed ruts, sure, and then

1339
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 1: then we could fill our holes. Right. I understand where

1340
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: you're coming from on that is he. But I believe

1341
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean thinks about it differently, So let me tell

1342
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: you how he thinks about it. He looks at it

1343
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: like this. He sees free agency as a vehicle by

1344
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 1: which he can try to fill as many position holes

1345
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: as possible, so he does not have what he calls

1346
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: a position emergency anywhere on his roster that forces his

1347
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 1: hand in the draft. He would like to get to

1348
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: the draft with zero position emergencies, especially in a year

1349
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: when you're picking thirty, so when you get to thirty,

1350
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable just taking the best guy available. What

1351
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 1: do you think about that approach? Well, that sounds good,

1352
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 1: but thirty is just killing me. Yeah, I get it too,

1353
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: is he. And here's the thing, though, even when they

1354
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 1: get down to thirty, and you know this, there's only

1355
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: about two hundred and fifty between two hundred ft two

1356
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: to sixty guys that are drafted every year, and they

1357
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 1: go in they look at these guys, all of them

1358
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: from top to bottom, them plus another five or six

1359
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 1: hundred other guys that they look at that won't get drafted,

1360
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 1: but we'll get signed in free agency. They look at

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01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 1: all those guys and they can they look at him physically.

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01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: First of all, they big enough, Are they fast enough?

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01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 1: Are they strong enough? Are they explosive enough? Do they

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01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 1: have enough skills? And do they have enough football knowledge?

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01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: All of the stuff they can test and measure, they're

1366
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: gonna find out. And what they do is they can

1367
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: kind of tell that. You go from a guy who

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01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 1: is a can't miss physically, he's gonna get a chance

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01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 1: to play, and if he doesn't, even even if he's

1370
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: a bust for this team, he's gonna get another chance

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01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: and another chance and another chance because he's off the

1372
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 1: charts physically gifted. There's guys like that plus there's guys

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01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 1: like that who are also great football players, who are

1374
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: swinging or home runs, and you go all the way

1375
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: from those guys down to the bottom of that group,

1376
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: where you are guys who are like Listen, in the

1377
01:17:55,560 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: right situation, in the right system, he can probably be okay,

1378
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: probably a backup on an NFL team pretty consistently, but

1379
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be a spot player at best. It goes.

1380
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 1: That's the range of guys that get drafted, and what

1381
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 1: you're doing in the draft, even at thirty, even in

1382
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 1: the first round, you're trying to pick the guy out

1383
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 1: of all those guys, no matter what position they play,

1384
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: is gonna be one of those guys that, Wow, this

1385
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 1: guy is a Physically, he's a can't miss, and we

1386
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 1: think all the other stuff off the field, his family,

1387
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: his schoolwork, his coaches, what his teammates said about him,

1388
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 1: his high school teacher, all that stuff. They think, Hey,

1389
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 1: this is a great guy. You're gonna love having him.

1390
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: So they'll pick those guys. They want to get to

1391
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 1: the spot where they can pick a guy. But even

1392
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: if they don't pick him, somebody else is gonna pick him,

1393
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have a really good pro career. He's

1394
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: gonna have the physical abilities to make your roster. That's

1395
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: what you're looking for at thirty. And if you have

1396
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: to go in and pick an offensive tackle and that

1397
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: guy isn't there, you're gonna take a guy who most

1398
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: most teams think he's barely gonna be able to make

1399
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 1: an NFL roster. But if you're stuck in a positional

1400
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 1: emergency and you gotta take a tackle, you take a

1401
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 1: guy who's actually got no chance to make your team anyway.

1402
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 1: So that's where you don't want to get to. So

1403
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 1: the best way to go into the draft is to

1404
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 1: be able to look look at all the guys, no

1405
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: matter what position they are at, and say, this guy

1406
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 1: is gonna have a really good pro career, let's get him.

1407
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 1: And that's the guy you want to pick, whether you

1408
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 1: need him at that position or not. At least your

1409
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 1: team gets better and deeper with a talent pool. So

1410
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 1: that's the philosophy of the draft. And that's not just

1411
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 1: the Bills. I think that's just about every single solitary team. Now,

1412
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: you get into the draft room and your offensive coordinator

1413
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: jumps up on the table and stomps his foot on

1414
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: the table and says, no, no, you gotta take this guy.

1415
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 1: Then you get into a discussion and or you get

1416
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: an owner who you got to talk out of taking

1417
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 1: somebody else seeing that right, right, Or you get you know,

1418
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 1: you get somebody who's got something for something, a guy.

1419
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: You can see that happening in Dallas. You can see

1420
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: it happening in Washington. We've seen it a hundred times

1421
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: where I don't know, No, I listen and your head

1422
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 1: coach says, I want to trade every draft pick we

1423
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: have for that guy. Ricky Williams comes comes to New Orleans. Right, Yeah,

1424
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 1: So that's the draft, and that's why you can't take

1425
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: your eyes off it. You gotta watch. Yeah, you do right, Yeah,

1426
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 1: I get it. I mean you're right. I mean they

1427
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: could just you know, so you pick that, wait till

1428
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: the draft and then but right now, you got too

1429
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 1: many holes to fill in the draft. You're not deep

1430
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 1: enough at every position to just take the best guy

1431
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: there is eight oh three five fifty fifty two five fifty.

1432
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 1: Back to the phones and to Mike in a car, Mike,

1433
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one Bill's Live.

1434
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: My comment is on Troy Vincent you know, he makes

1435
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 1: good points, but the one that he's way off on it.

1436
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: It's extremely unfortunate as he's talking about the equality of

1437
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 1: women and what people want, if or men want. If

1438
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 1: that was true, the Equal Rights Amendment that passed in

1439
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: Congress about fifty years ago in the seventies would have

1440
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: been ratified by now enough states Particuarly southern states haven't

1441
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 1: ratified it, so it is not an amendment. They do

1442
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 1: not Women do not possess equal rights under law in

1443
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 1: this country. Yeah, I mean, look, I know where you're

1444
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: coming from in terms of illegal standpoint. I think the

1445
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: point that Troy was trying to make was saying, we

1446
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: got to get to a place where men are at

1447
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: the forefront of the argument. I agree, but that's where

1448
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: I think it needs to be pushed in these Southern

1449
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: states to get it ratified so it's actually real. Yeah. Well,

1450
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean that might be step one, Mike, And I

1451
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 1: think if it's gonna happen, Mike, it's gonna happen the

1452
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 1: way Troy said it. Men have got to step up

1453
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: and do it, particularly men in government. I mean, when

1454
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 1: you think about it, we're behind multitudes of countries in

1455
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: the world and we're supposed to be a four funds.

1456
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 1: Well there you go. Yeah, I get you're right, and

1457
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm not wrong, and I think I think first and foremost.

1458
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Mike. One quick comment before I get cut off.

1459
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: It's a shame that Steve Tasker is not in the

1460
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And now we'll cut you off. Just

1461
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: open field tackler special teams in the history of the NFL.

1462
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: I see. Now you're just talking crazy. So thank you, Mike. Mike, Well,

1463
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm teasing you. Thank you. I appreciate it. I think

1464
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: what he's right. I think one of the things is

1465
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 1: going to take And I say, I've said this to you,

1466
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: and I've said it privately a ton, and I don't

1467
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: know if I've said it too much on the show,

1468
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: if at all. One of the things that I like

1469
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 1: about the NFL and and the NBA, the NHL as well.

1470
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: You differently, but to some extent, pro sports is one

1471
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: of the industries in our country that is kind of

1472
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: at the forefront of a race or reconciliation that we're

1473
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: talking about, because when when the rubber meets the road

1474
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: and the nuts and bolts of those leagues are that

1475
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: guys like me, White guys got to play with black guys,

1476
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: and you learn through experience how awesome it is to

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01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: get past all of that and to really love and

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01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: respect guys of another race, to have lifelong friends, to

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01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: care about them and make lifelong relationships with them, and

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01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: that it's real. It's not contrived, it's not it's not

1481
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 1: for show, it's not for camera, and all of that is.

1482
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 1: You don't do it because you all of a sudden,

1483
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: you're you have that certainly, you don't have a choice

1484
01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: to be on the team. If you want to play,

1485
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 1: you gotta do it. But it was it's totally voluntary

1486
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 1: and real. And I think that's one of the gifts

1487
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 1: that pro sports has had. And as many problems as

1488
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 1: pro sports has displayed, some of which we talked to

1489
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: Troy Vincent about just a few minutes ago, and they're real.

1490
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: And the criticisms for the NFL, and and it's it's

1491
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 1: lateness to the party for gender equality and the inclusion

1492
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 1: of women as officials and coaches, uh and the you know,

1493
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 1: the you know, a hundred years has taken for us

1494
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: to get there, even so, and those are just criticisms

1495
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: that we're still it's it's a it's a signal of

1496
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: how far all the rest of society has to go

1497
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: to get there as well. Right. I think though, that

1498
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: while what you're saying is great that you know locker

1499
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: rooms were into you know, professional locker rooms had better

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01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: race relations long before society did. Right, Um, I think

1501
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,759
Speaker 1: pro sports has to help society take the next step,

1502
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 1: which is not just getting along, because I think in

1503
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: order to eliminate the divides that exist in society, there

1504
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 1: has to be a greater interest in understanding the story

1505
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: on that other side of society that is unfamiliar to you.

1506
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 1: And I think that's the awakening that even I myself

1507
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 1: had because growing up in the New York metropolitan area,

1508
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:30,600
Speaker 1: you are exposed to a myriad of ethnicities and cultures

1509
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 1: and backgrounds. Like I grew up, I went to school

1510
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: with Pakistani kids, Jewish kids, Black kids, Asian kids, I

1511
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: mean Hispanic kids. I mean I had the rainbow at

1512
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 1: my school. So it was nothing new for me. I

1513
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,879
Speaker 1: was used to being exposed and people wore their cultures

1514
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: proudly on their sleeve, and they should, and because it

1515
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: was such a multi ethnic society, people felt comfortable doing that.

1516
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 1: But now in a lot of parts of our country

1517
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: even today, that does not exist. And that's a problem.

1518
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:10,640
Speaker 1: And whether you accept somebody else's culture or not is

1519
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 1: your choice. But man, you at least have to take

1520
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 1: the time to understand it and respect it, yeast, And

1521
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 1: that's the that's the next step that society at large

1522
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: in this country has to take. Yeah, most people like me,

1523
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 1: most people not everybody, but most people that I've come

1524
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: across like me who grew up and I couldn't. I

1525
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: couldn't have been brought up in a more whitebread Well

1526
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 1: you're in the Middle America right there. I could not.

1527
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 1: It's not possible. And I'll tell you, and a lot

1528
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 1: of people like me will tell you, I'm you're way

1529
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 1: better for getting exposed to all the other races and

1530
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: all the other ethnicities and all the other ways of

1531
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 1: life religions. Right, You're better for it. You're really better

1532
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 1: for it. It's been a gift to me to be

1533
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: able to do that. And I'm and I you know, yeah,

1534
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm way I'm a way better person for

1535
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: having been exposed to all of that. But the next

1536
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 1: step is understand ending because that's what I learned when

1537
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 1: Leslie Fraser spoke to our building on a zoom call

1538
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 1: in the wake of the George Floyd incident, Like, all right,

1539
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 1: Like I respect everybody's upbringing, background, ethnicity, culture, but now

1540
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: I've got to help that minority, whichever one is being afflicted.

1541
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: I have to help them get a better level of

1542
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 1: understanding from the rest of society at large. Just because

1543
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: I understand it and respect it, it's not enough. We've

1544
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:35,719
Speaker 1: got to get a broader acceptance of either a their struggle,

1545
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: be what they believe in, or see how they want

1546
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 1: to assimilate into the rest of society without feeling like

1547
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: an outcast. I mean, that's been happening generation over generation

1548
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: over generation, and it looks like we've hit a wall

1549
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: where suddenly it can't happen. So I don't know, there's

1550
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 1: more doing on all of our parts. For sure, we

1551
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 1: have to take a break. We can continue this conversation

1552
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: if we want, but Jim and Jim on a sell,

1553
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 1: David and Buffalo, hang tight. We will get to your

1554
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: phone calls when we return. We are still talking bills,

1555
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:10,839
Speaker 1: but if you want to talk some of these other subjects,

1556
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: we're open to it as well. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

1557
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: back in a minute here on One Bill's Live, presented

1558
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Back

1559
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 1: on One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you

1560
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,639
Speaker 1: here on a Monday. What route should the Bills take

1561
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: to address their remaining roster needs? Should they continue to

1562
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 1: mind free agency for some good values. Should they focus

1563
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: more of their attention going forward on the draft or

1564
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,600
Speaker 1: our trade possibilities an option? We want to know what

1565
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 1: you think at eight o three five fifty five fifty

1566
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: two five fifty open line for you. There we go

1567
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: to David in Buffalo. David, what do you have for us?

1568
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 1: You're on One Bill's Live. Hey, Terris, Chris Um, I

1569
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: think they're moving in the right direction firewise. It's the

1570
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 1: offensive line. They're really getting that together. I take my

1571
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: hat off to him about that. And also the defense

1572
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 1: just have to get a little bit stronger. And when

1573
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: they do get to the graft draft, just take the

1574
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:22,640
Speaker 1: available players. Best available is what you're going. And I

1575
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: say that did crass because I'm from the old rock pile, man,

1576
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 1: That's where I come from, the builds as my heart. Yeah, yeah, man,

1577
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 1: all right, thanks for the call. They appreciate it. He's saying,

1578
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 1: stay the course there, Steve, for the most part, and

1579
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 1: I think, now, I don't know if this is something.

1580
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 1: I think now I sit tight and wait. I target

1581
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 1: maybe three or four guys at the top of whatever

1582
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 1: position group we've been talking about, corner, D line, defensive end,

1583
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, even tight end, running back, whatever. You sit back,

1584
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 1: and you wait a couple of days until you get

1585
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,599
Speaker 1: closer to the draft, until a guy thinks maybe there's

1586
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: a chance he won't get signed, and uh and pick

1587
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 1: your spot. Uh, that's what I think I would do now,

1588
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 1: I'd like a little bit. Yeah. The leverage clearly is

1589
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 1: swinging back to the to the clubs every with every

1590
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 1: passing day. I don't think there's any doubt about that.

1591
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 1: So the urgency is not there for the team. It

1592
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: is one hundred percent there for the player. Because if

1593
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 1: you're still sitting out there here in the second week

1594
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 1: of free agency, you're sitting there saying, am I gonna

1595
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 1: is there a landing spot for me? Like? How much

1596
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 1: am I gonna make any money? How much below my

1597
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 1: market value? Am I gonna be playing for this year?

1598
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 1: That's if anywhere right, No panic is taking hold, is

1599
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 1: there any interest at all? Right? And I think that's

1600
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,759
Speaker 1: that's when you've got to have you representation. Your agent's

1601
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: got to be saying no, no, no, I got there's

1602
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:54,600
Speaker 1: some teams that are interested in you. Um, this is

1603
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 1: what they were talking about. Then this is what they

1604
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 1: were talking about that and you can go back and say, listen,

1605
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: pretty soon the play are gonna say, hey, listen, get

1606
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: me signed someplace, Get me signed someplace, take the best deal. Yeah,

1607
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 1: because they're gonna start to write when those kids come

1608
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 1: out and they're drafting this team's what if they draft

1609
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 1: a guy, if they sign me, maybe they don't draft

1610
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 1: a guy, and then at least I've got a place

1611
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 1: to work. But if they draft a guy and is

1612
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 1: at my position, there's now, I mean further from getting signed.

1613
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 1: So there's that kind of thought out there as well.

1614
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 1: But I like the you know, that's what Dave said.

1615
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean, just stay the course and kind of hang

1616
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: in there. Don't be too anxious to sign anybody right now.

1617
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 1: Let them come to you and see makes some sense

1618
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 1: to be patient. I was wondering if you saw this

1619
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 1: over the weekend, Steve, the Saints were the only NFL

1620
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 1: team to officially lose a draft choice over COVID violations

1621
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 1: during the twenty twenty season. The Saints were officially docked

1622
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick in twenty twenty two, and they

1623
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 1: were five mind seven hundred thousand dollars after the appeals

1624
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: process was completed. If you remember, the Raiders also got

1625
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 1: doctor draft pick and we're fined eight hundred grand for

1626
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 1: their COVID violations, but they appealed it and one on appeal,

1627
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 1: so they got their draft choice back. Not sure if

1628
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 1: they still had to fork over the money. I think

1629
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 1: they still had to do that. But the Saints lost

1630
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 1: their appeal, so they're gonna lose a six round draft

1631
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 1: choice next year because of their COVID violations, which happened

1632
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:33,520
Speaker 1: on more than one occasion down there. Well, that's yeah.

1633
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:37,640
Speaker 1: I think the repeated yeah nature of it is egregious.

1634
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 1: Were you surprised at all that we didn't see Tennessee

1635
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 1: kind of get worked into that equation at all? No,

1636
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm not. And here's why not that the tent not

1637
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 1: that they didn't do anything wrong, but you know, back

1638
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 1: at the time when that happened is week five, I

1639
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: believe there's Week four, actually Week four, and it bled

1640
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 1: into week five. They were because they had like nine

1641
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:04,799
Speaker 1: teen peep, No, it wasn't nineteen, it was like nine people.

1642
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 1: Initially it was right, well, it was like four, and

1643
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 1: then it was like another one. Right, So then that

1644
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 1: that all happened, and people when it happened day after day,

1645
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 1: they didn't people didn't realize they were getting these positive tests.

1646
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 1: These guys weren't together. It's not like they were, you know,

1647
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 1: taking naps under the same blanket. They were in separate buildings.

1648
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 1: They weren't even they would have mask wearing violations though

1649
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:31,520
Speaker 1: in their building. That's why I was a little surprised

1650
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 1: they didn't at least get Did they get fined? I

1651
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 1: think I think they did. They got five. But here's

1652
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: the thing I think those I I don't think because

1653
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 1: I remember this too. The whole, the whole, every fan

1654
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: base of the NFL all over the country was pounding

1655
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 1: on the Tennessee Titans for being filthy lepers. Yeah, they

1656
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 1: got fine, they were. Everybody was just emptying the bucket

1657
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 1: on the port because we all thought they were going

1658
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 1: to run the entire season, right, And I think when

1659
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 1: we find when cooler heads prevailed, they said wait a minute,

1660
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 1: was you know, I think it was like, okay, whoa, whoa.

1661
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 1: You know they're not that you know, they're not that bad.

1662
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 1: And it was the first real egregious outbreak we had

1663
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: in the season. And as we just heard from Troy Vincent,

1664
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: those first six weeks, they were in very much experimental

1665
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: mode in terms of taking stuff as it comes and

1666
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: this and that, and obviously the Titans thing was the

1667
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 1: biggest one that came down the pike in the first

1668
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 1: six weeks of the season. They got fined three hundred

1669
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars. It's about half of what the

1670
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 1: Raiders and the Saints, both of whom had repeat violations,

1671
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 1: experienced and got docked at seven hundred and fifty and

1672
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand dollars respectively. I just thought that was

1673
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: interesting that at the end of the day, Saints still

1674
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 1: lose a draft choice next year, a sixth round pick,

1675
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 1: and our seven hundred thousand dollars lighter. We have to

1676
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 1: take a break, but when we come back, we'll get

1677
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the tweet sheet and on the phones.

1678
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 1: At eight oh three fifty, what route should the Bills

1679
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 1: take to address their remaining roster needs. Want your opinions?

1680
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 1: Next open line for you at eight oh three oh

1681
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:10,680
Speaker 1: five fifty. But we'll hit the tweet sheet next when

1682
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 1: we return. On One Bill's Live presented by Kaloid of Health,

1683
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio, Colow Bills Radio Network Sports Date

1684
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,879
Speaker 1: your sports update from One Bill's Drive. Quarterback Mit Droubisky

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Speaker 1: and tight end Jacob Hollister expected to officially sign their

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Speaker 1: one year deals with the Bills today. Both expected to

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Speaker 1: be in the building at some point at One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: After last year's NFL Draft win all virtual because of

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Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen pandemic, this year's draft will return to

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Speaker 1: having a crowd. The NFL is planning to hold a

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Speaker 1: primarily outdoor draft in Cleveland from April twenty ninth to

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Speaker 1: May first, and will feature the top prospects in attendance

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Speaker 1: and fans required to wear masks on the scene. NFL

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Speaker 1: teams will conduct their draft business at team facilities, rather

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Speaker 1: than having coaches and jams working from home as they

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Speaker 1: did for last year's draft. The eighty six NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: would be focused around First Energy Stadium, Rock and Roll

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and the Great Lakes Science Center free agency,

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Speaker 1: rolling along a few signings from over the weekend. Receiver

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Speaker 1: to Shawn Jackson has a new NFL home in his

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Speaker 1: hometown of La Jackson agreeing to terms with the Rams

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Speaker 1: on a one year deal. The thirty four year old

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Speaker 1: was a second round pick of the Eagles in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight. He spent six seasons with the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: three in Washington, two in Tampa, and then two more

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Speaker 1: in Philly. Jets continue to build up their defensive line

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Speaker 1: after signing pass rusher Carl Loss in the last week.

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Speaker 1: Another defender is headed to New York. Defensive tackle Sheldon

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Speaker 1: Rankins has agreed to a two year deal where it's

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Speaker 1: seventeen million. The new deal gives the veteran lineman a

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Speaker 1: fresh start after five seasons with the Saints. Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 1: have agreed to a one year deal with wide receiver

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Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds. The former Rams receiver sit career highs at

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Speaker 1: fifty two catches in sixteen or six hundred eighteen yards

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Speaker 1: last season as the team's fourth wide out. Veteran QB

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco visiting the Philadelphia Eagles. Second year QB Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurtzon line for Philadelphia's starting gig after the trade of

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz to Indianapolis, Fellow twenty twenty backup Nate Sudfeld

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Speaker 1: remains a free agent, and after Saturday's postpone went the Bruins,

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Speaker 1: the Sabers get back on the ice when they visit

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Speaker 1: the Rangers, who are trying to end a six game

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Speaker 1: road losing streak. Dylan Cousins expected back in the lineup

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Speaker 1: after missing the last four games recovering from an upper

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Speaker 1: body injury. That is your sports update from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you our number three of

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Speaker 1: the program as we are broadcasting from the Seneca Studios

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Speaker 1: here in Orchard Park, New York, and talking to you

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Speaker 1: today about Buffalo's roster construction thus far this offseason and

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Speaker 1: the best path going forward from this point. They've obviously

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Speaker 1: made some additions in free agency, but do we believe

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Speaker 1: that their focus should shift in terms of impacting this

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Speaker 1: roster going forward more to the draft. Maybe there's a

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Speaker 1: trade that you have in mind or continue to mind

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Speaker 1: the free agent market for some bargains, Knowing prices on

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Speaker 1: players are coming down as players with each passing day

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Speaker 1: become more and more desperate to find a landing spot

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Speaker 1: for the fall. So let us know open lines for

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Speaker 1: you at eight oh three, five fifty. But Steve, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go to the tweet sheet because we haven't done

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Speaker 1: that yet, and the tweet sheet is always brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills, and Jeremy leads us off says,

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Speaker 1: from here on out, the draft seems like the only

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Speaker 1: option left. Cap is way too tight to have any

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Speaker 1: more free agent signings unless someone else becomes a cap casualty.

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Speaker 1: And that's a scenario that I don't think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are considering here. There could be somebody that,

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Speaker 1: you know, suddenly they to maybe sign one of their

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Speaker 1: marquee players to an extension. They can't do that unless

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Speaker 1: they clip somebody else. We saw I actually saw Steve

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Speaker 1: over the weekend, I think a team, I think it

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Speaker 1: was Minnesota. They got penalized for being over the cap.

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Speaker 1: They had an over the cap violation late last week

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Speaker 1: when the league ascertained that they did not successfully get

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Speaker 1: underneath the salary cap for the twenty twenty one league year,

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Speaker 1: which as we know, began at four pm on March seventeenth.

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Speaker 1: They were not under it in time paid the penalty.

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Speaker 1: It's not good. It's not good. And it's interesting too

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Speaker 1: that you talk about getting under the cap and cap casualties.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, particularly if you know there's nobody on

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Speaker 1: this roster right now that they've got to. I mean,

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Speaker 1: certainly they're gonna sign Josh Allen to an extension. They

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Speaker 1: got two years to do it, two full seasons to

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Speaker 1: do it. Same thing with Tremaine Edmonds and anybody else

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Speaker 1: that you think that they're gonna have to resign on

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Speaker 1: their rookie deal. They got two full seasons to get

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Speaker 1: that done for Josh and Tremaine. So there's no real

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Speaker 1: urgency anywhere for them to clear up millions and millions

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Speaker 1: of dollars in cap room to pay these guys. They

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Speaker 1: got plenty of time to get those done, and they will.

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Speaker 1: The only thing they really got to do is make

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Speaker 1: sure that they make, you know, exercise the option on

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Speaker 1: a fifth year option for Josh and May third. They

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Speaker 1: would have to do that, and they they choose not

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Speaker 1: to do the extension, that that would be the odds.

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Speaker 1: Well even if they go, yeah, even if they do

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Speaker 1: they exercise the fifth year option, they can still do

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Speaker 1: the extension anytime they want. And the only different with

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Speaker 1: the difference with the fifth year option for those two

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Speaker 1: is because each of them made a Pro Bowl as

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Speaker 1: a starter, both of them doing so this year. Have

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Speaker 1: If you do that in your first three years, you

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Speaker 1: automatically get the equivalent of the transition tag at your

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Speaker 1: position number one and number two. It is fully guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: It is not guaranteed for injury only. It is fully

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Speaker 1: guaranteed short of signing an extension that would infect tear

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Speaker 1: that fifty year up. So yeah, just some things to

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Speaker 1: consider because that number gets pretty fat at the quarterback

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Speaker 1: position on the transition tags, the upwards of twenty two

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Speaker 1: million dollars, think of it. Yeah, So what it basically

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Speaker 1: means is that when Josh Allen made the Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 1: he got a twenty two million dollars bonus or better

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Speaker 1: and it will be fully guaranteed if he plays it out.

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Speaker 1: It's fully guaranteed. So presto chango, that's you know. And

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Speaker 1: I the Vikings did lose a seventh round pick this

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Speaker 1: year for a salary cap violation. However, I am wrong.

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Speaker 1: The violation was back in twenty nineteen. So after an investigation,

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Speaker 1: apparently they determined that yes, they were in fact in violation.

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Speaker 1: They're penalizing them now for their twenty nineteen salary cap

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Speaker 1: violation that did not happen this year. You were right, though,

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Speaker 1: they should have had a film crew following around that

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Speaker 1: New Orleans get them under the cap. That would have

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Speaker 1: been magical television. Yeah, magic right now, you know, right now.

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Speaker 1: Even so, now the league goes forward, there's now there's

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Speaker 1: only like eleven teams that are concerned. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: that's not true. There is everybody three four, five teams

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Speaker 1: that are listed on the website spot Track as under

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Speaker 1: over the cap. Now five teams, and the most is

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Speaker 1: the Rams at five point two, the Eagles at five million,

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Speaker 1: the Bills at three point four, the Bears at two

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Speaker 1: point three, and the Saints at one point four. Right,

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Speaker 1: and we have to remember that everything, even as good

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Speaker 1: as spot Track and over the Cap are in tabulating

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Speaker 1: these figures, there are some inner workings and dealings by

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Speaker 1: these NFL clubs that don't make it out into the press,

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Speaker 1: and so they're not aware of it. So there could

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Speaker 1: be some restructures there for those clubs to get under

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Speaker 1: the cap that just haven't been made public yet that

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Speaker 1: they're not aware of. They might have exercised the option

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Speaker 1: on Tremaine or Tradevius and um Dion Dawkins contract and

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Speaker 1: they could be saved about fifteen So who knows if

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Speaker 1: they did that. But yeah, as a you know, there's

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Speaker 1: some teams that are close, but they're everybody. The average

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Speaker 1: is the league average right now according to the same

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Speaker 1: website as thirteen point four under the cap. So, man,

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Speaker 1: you talk about a harried finish to the league year.

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Speaker 1: That's why I did not major in accounting. Who not

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Speaker 1: my bed. They had some work they had not had

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Speaker 1: some work to do. From Tiffany on the tweet sheet,

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Speaker 1: she says, I would focus on the draft. It's the

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Speaker 1: strong suit of this regime to work the draft to

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Speaker 1: maximize their draft capital and come away with talented players.

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Speaker 1: Then I would grab value free agents to round out

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Speaker 1: the rest of the rosters. Some good players come available

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Speaker 1: post draft. Tiffany is right about that, and Brandon Bean

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Speaker 1: has gone that route at times. Um I think even

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Speaker 1: though he tries to eliminate position emergencies, as we say,

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Speaker 1: when he gets to the draft, so he can truly

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Speaker 1: take the best player on the board and not think

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Speaker 1: twice about it. I think there are times it's human nature, right.

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Speaker 1: You go into the draft with a certain measure of expectations. Ah,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll probably have good value at these two

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Speaker 1: positions here in this round. We should be okay at

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Speaker 1: these two positions in this round. And then when that

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen. Sometimes you come out of the draft and

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Speaker 1: you say, oh, man, I really thought we were going

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Speaker 1: to do better at the linebacker position, where we could

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Speaker 1: at least fill the back half of our depth chart

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Speaker 1: at that position in the draft with some young players.

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Speaker 1: But man, we only got one we really wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Even though we got an undrafted guy at the position,

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Speaker 1: I'm still not too cool about it. Maybe we should

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Speaker 1: just get a veteran that's still out there on a

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Speaker 1: one year deal. I think fans suffer from that thrift

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Speaker 1: store mentality more so than NFL gms. The guys that

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Speaker 1: are out there on the free agent market still, even

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Speaker 1: if they haven't been signed, they're not you know, it's

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Speaker 1: not like going through you know, the bargain basement. These

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Speaker 1: guys are have been on a team within the last

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Speaker 1: twelve month they've played, and some of them have a

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Speaker 1: lot to offer, even if it's not in physical abilities

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Speaker 1: like it once was. Certainly they've got some leadership and

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Speaker 1: some ability and a skill set that would help your

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Speaker 1: club at least in a depth wise thing. And some

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Speaker 1: of most of these guys, if not all, of these

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Speaker 1: guys on the free agent market, have got a feel

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Speaker 1: in their own heart like, man, I want to I

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Speaker 1: want to play, I want to be on it, I

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Speaker 1: want to go. I got something I can offer, I

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Speaker 1: want to play, and I'm gonna play well. So there's

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Speaker 1: that attitude from the player's side of it. So it's

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Speaker 1: not a cupboard that is bare. Certainly you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: get a Chase Young or a Miles Garrett somebody like

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Speaker 1: that as a pass rusher on the open market. But

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Speaker 1: you you may get a guy who who gives you

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Speaker 1: something more than you thought you were going to get.

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Speaker 1: Like a couple of years, there's been guys off and

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Speaker 1: on not for very long. They'll come in and give

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Speaker 1: you like EJ. Gaines came in. Remember in twenty seventeen EJ.

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Speaker 1: Games was on the roster. He looked and people thought, wow,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, he's a little older. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. They were eight and three in the games

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Speaker 1: he started, he played well. So guys like that are

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Speaker 1: out there at all the positions, and I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of fans and maybe maybe you and I get

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Speaker 1: into that spot too where it's like I don't know

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Speaker 1: what he's gonna be able to get. He's thirty three.

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Speaker 1: Well you know what, thirty three year old player can

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Speaker 1: still play in a lot of cases. We do want

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Speaker 1: to let you know because we did just get it

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Speaker 1: confirmed that Bills knew his tight end. Jacob Hollister, we'll

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Speaker 1: be joining us on the show here in about fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: Scheduled to be on with us at two thirty five.

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Speaker 1: He was at one Bill's Drive today and signing off

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01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 1: on his one year contract agreement with Buffalo to make

1896
01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 1: it official. So looking forward to getting Jacob on the

1897
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,719
Speaker 1: line with us. Hearing about ten fifteen minutes, so please

1898
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:55,680
Speaker 1: stay tuned for that. Be good to catch up with

1899
01:46:55,760 --> 01:47:00,519
Speaker 1: him from Jack first signed Mackenzie back, we need a returner.

1900
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:04,719
Speaker 1: Then time to do some bargain shopping, make some calls,

1901
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:07,799
Speaker 1: see if some guys price has come down again. Signed

1902
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:10,559
Speaker 1: some one year deals with incentives as we could still

1903
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 1: use a veteran corner and maybe some additional help at

1904
01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:17,639
Speaker 1: defensive end. Then focus on the draft. So Jack taking

1905
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 1: a very procedural approach there, Steve that little process going

1906
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:26,719
Speaker 1: on there for him. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's gonna

1907
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 1: be really interesting to see who they get at thirty

1908
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 1: and if they do stay at thirty. As we've said before,

1909
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean has in the drafts he's been involved with

1910
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 1: at a high level, he is never traded down. He's

1911
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 1: only traded up or picked where he was where he

1912
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:46,640
Speaker 1: was slotted already. There's no doubt. I mean, think about it,

1913
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:50,760
Speaker 1: there's absolutely no doubt. There's got to be a handful

1914
01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:55,760
Speaker 1: of players that Brandon Bean would consider trading up for

1915
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 1: in this draft, at least a handful at thirty. Right,

1916
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 1: there's got to be at least a handful of guys

1917
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 1: at specific positions that Brandon Bean said, if this guy

1918
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 1: drops to twenty five, we're gonna try and get up.

1919
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:13,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna try and jump up and get him. Um.

1920
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:16,640
Speaker 1: That's really intriguing to me because I think that's a

1921
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 1: real possibility. Now, trading down is also a possibility, but

1922
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 1: he's never done that. He's never done that and I

1923
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 1: and I get that mentality. But you know, maybe we

1924
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 1: see it for the first time this year, possible because

1925
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:36,679
Speaker 1: they're in a much different place here being way down

1926
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 1: the board. Of course, of course, watch somebody slide from

1927
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 1: the teams to the mid twenties, and it's just like, yeah,

1928
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna get a corner's gonna drop slide down. It's

1929
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh my god, he's gonna be sitting

1930
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 1: there tapping his foot calling, oh my gosh, and he

1931
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 1: would jump up and get him. I don't know. I yeah,

1932
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 1: maybe maybe he will, but it'll be interesting to see.

1933
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 1: I think that's that's the fun hard about this draft.

1934
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:05,559
Speaker 1: But it's this roster. Think about where it is compared

1935
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 1: to where it was in twenty seventeen. I mean, this

1936
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 1: roster is hard to make. Yeah, this is a roster

1937
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:13,360
Speaker 1: like the ones I was on in the early night

1938
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 1: where you're going to the Super Bowl every year and

1939
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 1: you get these guys drafted and they're really good players

1940
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 1: and you can't they can't do it. They can't even

1941
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,400
Speaker 1: find a place form on the practice squad or that

1942
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:24,639
Speaker 1: they can't keep them. They go off to another place

1943
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:28,679
Speaker 1: and they have a really nice pro career. They couldn't

1944
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:31,479
Speaker 1: make that team. And that's that's all. That's kind of

1945
01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:33,680
Speaker 1: not I'm you know, I'm not gonna go two of them.

1946
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 1: But that's where kind of where this roster is compared

1947
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 1: to where it was in the last two or three years. Yeah,

1948
01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 1: And because of that, you wonder, are you more apt

1949
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:47,679
Speaker 1: to take a veteran rather than a young rookie, especially

1950
01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 1: late in the draft, knowing it's gonna be a tough

1951
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 1: roster to make. Maybe, but then again, you know, you

1952
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 1: had a seventh round picking Dan Jackson hang around last year,

1953
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 1: granted on the practice squad, but maybe maybe you'd trade

1954
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:03,720
Speaker 1: a A two for two threes next year? You know,

1955
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:07,640
Speaker 1: maybe you start stockpiling future picks, right, you know, for

1956
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 1: a time when these do you know what contracts are

1957
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:11,720
Speaker 1: coming up in a year's time and you may need

1958
01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 1: to start backfilling with young talent again. Right, maybe it's

1959
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:18,240
Speaker 1: time to stockpile on some picks in the coming years

1960
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 1: rather than blow them all now on a roster that

1961
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 1: they won't make anyway, Maybe you trade your fifth, sixth,

1962
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 1: and seventh round picks for a second rounder. You know,

1963
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 1: if you can do that, you're gonna get hired in

1964
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 1: a front office somewhere. I think you might need a

1965
01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 1: little more. Somebody might be desperate. Well maybe from Nick

1966
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet, I'm not against taking the best

1967
01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 1: available at any position, but I'd personally like to see

1968
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 1: us draft a corner and edge rusher with picks one

1969
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 1: and two. We probably can't find an edge who can

1970
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:50,559
Speaker 1: start right away, but there are multiple corners that I

1971
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 1: think we can compete for the number two spot right

1972
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:57,120
Speaker 1: away on our roster. So yeah, and that's where I am. Nick.

1973
01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:59,759
Speaker 1: I'm in the same camp with respect to a corner.

1974
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,839
Speaker 1: I think it's time to invest in in high quality

1975
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 1: youth at the position, knowing that all your other starting

1976
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 1: positions are manned by veterans or at least guys that

1977
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 1: have a lot of stars under their belt. And so yeah,

1978
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 1: get a get a young, promising, talented corner high in

1979
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,840
Speaker 1: the draft, somewhere in the first two days, someone that

1980
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 1: you feel confident that can compete, you know, for for

1981
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 1: a starting role. And that's huge because think about it,

1982
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 1: none of these draft picks this year, drafting at number thirty,

1983
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:36,799
Speaker 1: then drafting at number sixty What sixty four or sixty two?

1984
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:41,360
Speaker 1: Is it? They draft. I don't know that there's gonna

1985
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 1: be one single guy drafted by the Bills this year

1986
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 1: that when they sixty one, they take thirty, then sixty one,

1987
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 1: then ninety three. I don't know that there's any one

1988
01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:54,559
Speaker 1: of those draft picks all the way down. They got

1989
01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:59,760
Speaker 1: two fifths, a sixth, and the seventh. Who could they

1990
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:03,600
Speaker 1: possibly take that's gonna come in and day one is

1991
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 1: gonna get plugged in. I mean, if ed Oliver didn't

1992
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 1: get plugged in, if aj Epenezza didn't get plugged in.

1993
01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 1: The only guys that have been plugged in the day

1994
01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 1: they were drafted, the only guy two guys was Tredavious

1995
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 1: White and Tremaine Edmonds. Those are the only two guys

1996
01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 1: they drafted in their entire run here that have been

1997
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 1: plugged in on opening day and said that's our guy

1998
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 1: right there from today a training camp started till you know,

1999
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 1: till the season. That's not gonna happen with this draft

2000
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 1: class at all. I mean, they could certainly by by

2001
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:40,920
Speaker 1: the time as time passes, earned their way onto the field.

2002
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, day one of twenty twenty one,

2003
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 1: I would be shocked if a single draft pick for

2004
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills is start taking start like Gabe Davis

2005
01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 1: did last year, right, Yeah, I mean because like you said,

2006
01:52:56,840 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds was a day one guy. Tredevious White came

2007
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:02,880
Speaker 1: readily apparent he was gonna be a day one guy.

2008
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 1: But that was year one of the bill, right and

2009
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:07,479
Speaker 1: Tremaine was year two of the bill. That's and I says,

2010
01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 1: says something about Gabe Davis because he got he did

2011
01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 1: get on the field day one, but they actually and

2012
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:17,639
Speaker 1: he actually forced them to change their roster. Well there

2013
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:20,720
Speaker 1: the idea, Pat DeMarco, you're out the door. We're going

2014
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:22,839
Speaker 1: for wide. We're not doing that two back thing anymore.

2015
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 1: Forget it. So because of this Gabe Davis, So I guess,

2016
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, I guess now that they think about it,

2017
01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:31,639
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis did that last year. Was the guy that said,

2018
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:35,760
Speaker 1: well he got plugged in pretty quick. Okay. I still

2019
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 1: don't think any of these draft picks will. Yeah, unless

2020
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 1: you unless you get lucky and somebody slides, and you

2021
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:44,680
Speaker 1: know I got be in Essa slid last year. Well

2022
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 1: you can think, I mean, what is gonna happen? Maybe

2023
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:51,559
Speaker 1: what you draft him an interior offensive lineman. I go Okay, Well,

2024
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:54,679
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, well he's pretty good. Well, you know,

2025
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know who you're gonna sit.

2026
01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, uh maybe Cody Ford comes back. He's not

2027
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 1: quite one hundred percent, doesn't He gets nicked and stuff,

2028
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:05,599
Speaker 1: and all right, we got this other guy. Will plug

2029
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 1: him in. He's hearing it and he hangs onto that spot. Right,

2030
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 1: maybe you could foresee that happening. Man, you're not drafting

2031
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 1: that guy thinking it's gonna happen. Craig on the tweet

2032
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 1: sheet says drafting a pass rusher should be our first pick.

2033
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 1: I understand the pass rush is something that a lot

2034
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 1: of people point to and say it has to be

2035
01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 1: better than it was last year. And as we've talked

2036
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 1: about on this show many times, Steve, a core principle

2037
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 1: of this defensive philosophy is to get pressure effectively and

2038
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 1: consistently just rushing your front four so you can drop

2039
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 1: seven cover all the passing lanes, etc. Etc. And we

2040
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 1: know that did not happen much at all last year

2041
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, right, And I think fans are genuinely

2042
01:54:55,240 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 1: concerned if the team goes into this season with large

2043
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 1: the same group because right now The only thing that's

2044
01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 1: changed is stars coming back, and Trent Murphy's probably not

2045
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:13,000
Speaker 1: here and Quentin Jefferson's not here. Those are your changes. Yeah,

2046
01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 1: they And they haven't added anybody, right, Am I missing who?

2047
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm No, they haven't. They haven't signed it in, they

2048
01:55:21,240 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 1: haven't signed any defensive linemen. Right. They restructured a couple

2049
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 1: of guys. Correct, you're right right now? They're down, Well,

2050
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 1: they're down one guy on the rotation um. They lost

2051
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:39,640
Speaker 1: Murphy and Jefferson and Jefferson and they got Starlot lay Back,

2052
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 1: so they're down one guy. But I don't know. I'm

2053
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:47,160
Speaker 1: with you. I think the thing is fans are saying,

2054
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 1: how do you get better with the same How do

2055
01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:51,760
Speaker 1: we get better? Yeah? That's I think that's their concern, right,

2056
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 1: And I get it. I understand it because the results

2057
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 1: they saw last year is all they know. That's the

2058
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:01,520
Speaker 1: only evidence they have as to how effective a group,

2059
01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:05,120
Speaker 1: that newly revamped group can be after all the acquisitions

2060
01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 1: from the twenty twenty offseason. And I'm not saying I'm

2061
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of standing pat Believe me, I'm not.

2062
01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 1: But this was a team that was really really good,

2063
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 1: not just really good, really really good. Um, so I'm

2064
01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 1: not I'm not averse to coming back and maybe standing

2065
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 1: pat you know, having the same group go again largely,

2066
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 1: but you know, by by the same time, there's no

2067
01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 1: question you gotta change some things just because of the

2068
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:37,480
Speaker 1: cap and everything that's changed this year, and they and

2069
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 1: they will they have. The tight end group has changed

2070
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 1: now greatly. I would say, Um, the offensive line, you

2071
01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:50,160
Speaker 1: got a chance to keep, bring them back. I like

2072
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:52,560
Speaker 1: that because of the fact that they never really played

2073
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 1: together last year. I'm okay with that. I'm okay with

2074
01:56:55,680 --> 01:56:57,839
Speaker 1: the with the running backs, and of course the wide receivers.

2075
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. You might have got better,

2076
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:05,400
Speaker 1: you got different, a little different with Emmanuel Sanders and

2077
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:08,520
Speaker 1: I've been watching a little bit, just a littlest bit

2078
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:13,440
Speaker 1: of watching him, and he's pretty pretty good. That guy

2079
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:16,240
Speaker 1: can break a round right for me to watch. Have

2080
01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 1: you seen a couple of hours he can. He's like

2081
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:22,760
Speaker 1: Steph did last year. He's snapping some guy's ankles and

2082
01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:26,720
Speaker 1: he's coming free. Uh. He's done that his whole career though,

2083
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm liking the wide receiver crew defensively in

2084
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 1: the back, in the defensive backfield. You're bringing back the

2085
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:37,440
Speaker 1: two safeties, Tradevious White and Levi Wallace signed to come back.

2086
01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 1: Matt Milano's signed to come back. So I'm I'm kind

2087
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:44,640
Speaker 1: of thinking, Okay, Yeah, let's let's ride a little bit

2088
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 1: and see if we can get Maybe if you get

2089
01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:49,640
Speaker 1: your second corner, if you can upgrade there, I think

2090
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 1: you get a bigger boost than maybe just a slight

2091
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:54,000
Speaker 1: upgrade would think you would get. I think you get

2092
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 1: a bigger boost from that. So I'm yeah, I'm they

2093
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:02,160
Speaker 1: were so good last year, so I'm thinking, you know,

2094
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:04,120
Speaker 1: if you're gonna if there's a year to stand pad,

2095
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 1: this might be a year to to think about more

2096
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:08,640
Speaker 1: than others. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of that,

2097
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:12,280
Speaker 1: because I think you do need to get better. But

2098
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:14,160
Speaker 1: you can make that case that it's not all that

2099
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:17,360
Speaker 1: bad for this crew from Alan focus on the draft

2100
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:19,040
Speaker 1: and be as smart this year as they have been

2101
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:21,720
Speaker 1: in the last four draft classes. If there's one thing

2102
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 1: that's clear to me, Steve, it's that this fan base

2103
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 1: trusts Brandon Bean and his scouting department when it comes

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01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:32,040
Speaker 1: to making draft selections. He's he's certainly earned that over

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01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 1: the last four years and three drafts. I believe it

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01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:40,240
Speaker 1: is now. But yeah, I mean the roster building has

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01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:42,880
Speaker 1: been successful a year, doing large part to what they've

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01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:46,520
Speaker 1: been able to acquire with their draft choices, no question

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01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:52,400
Speaker 1: about it. I agree. I think they're the contributions they've

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01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:55,840
Speaker 1: got from guys down their draft board as well as

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01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:59,520
Speaker 1: rookie free agents. I mean, I forget Matt Malanos, a

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01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:03,880
Speaker 1: fifth round draft picked. Yeah, Levi Wallace was undrafted, and

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01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:07,080
Speaker 1: they listened. I think to Brian Dable about Learn Johnson

2114
01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 1: was a fourth round Taron Johnson. I think even Dane

2115
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 1: Jackson flashed for them. And the fact that I think too,

2116
01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:18,840
Speaker 1: it's not all about Brandon being a lot of it

2117
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,520
Speaker 1: is a lot of it's about Sean McDermott and the

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01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:24,320
Speaker 1: player development department, about how these guys get better and

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01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:26,720
Speaker 1: better and better. And the atmosphere in this building is

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01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 1: such an I don't I've never seen anything like it.

2121
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:32,000
Speaker 1: But the atmosphere in this building is about getting better

2122
01:59:32,160 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 1: all the time, and they pound that into these young players,

2123
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:39,160
Speaker 1: and I think it has really paid big dividends, particularly

2124
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:41,680
Speaker 1: in the second half of the seasons that Sean McDermot

2125
01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 1: has been head coach. You see the team blossom and

2126
01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:48,200
Speaker 1: get better and start to really hit the gas pedal

2127
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season. And it's been

2128
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:52,280
Speaker 1: fun to watch. And I think you got to give

2129
01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:54,640
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot as much credit for that as you do

2130
01:59:54,680 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 1: Brandon being picking the bodies break time for us. But

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01:59:57,480 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 1: when we return, Buffalo's newest tight end on the one

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02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:03,480
Speaker 1: Jacob Hollis here will join us. When we return, we'll

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02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 1: get his thoughts on putting pen to paper today here

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02:00:05,800 --> 02:00:07,920
Speaker 1: at One Bill's Drive to make his contract with the

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Speaker 1: Bills for the twenty twenty one season official. It's coming

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Speaker 1: up next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collid

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Speaker 1: to Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to

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02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:27,440
Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Taster with you and

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02:00:28,200 --> 02:00:30,720
Speaker 1: joining us on the show right now is Buffalo's new

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02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:34,920
Speaker 1: his tight end who just put pen to paper today

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02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:37,280
Speaker 1: at One Bill's Drive. He is in town. He's getting

2142
02:00:37,280 --> 02:00:41,240
Speaker 1: the lay of the land. Here it is one Jacob Hollister,

2143
02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:44,200
Speaker 1: and I guess we'll start here. Do you prefer Jake

2144
02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:47,640
Speaker 1: or Jacob? We want to get this right here. You

2145
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:49,640
Speaker 1: know it's fifty fifty. I also have a twin brothers,

2146
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:53,520
Speaker 1: so Cody, Jake or Jacob is really names that I'll

2147
02:00:53,560 --> 02:00:56,400
Speaker 1: go back because my brother's name's Cody. So I answered

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02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:58,480
Speaker 1: all of them, but my family calls me Jacob. Everybody

2149
02:00:58,520 --> 02:01:00,840
Speaker 1: just calls me Jake though. That works, right, So good enough.

2150
02:01:00,880 --> 02:01:03,280
Speaker 1: We'll pick and choose through there and try to try

2151
02:01:03,320 --> 02:01:05,320
Speaker 1: to hit the right one more often than not. So

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02:01:06,040 --> 02:01:07,760
Speaker 1: you got a chance to tie this up in a

2153
02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:12,440
Speaker 1: boat today, Jake, So maybe just walk us through the

2154
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:15,440
Speaker 1: process here and how this kind of came together for

2155
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:19,640
Speaker 1: you in the Bills. Yeah, honestly, I didn't know what

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02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:22,480
Speaker 1: to expect. This is my first time, obviously dealing with

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02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:26,200
Speaker 1: free agency, and so going into it, I was told

2158
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:27,840
Speaker 1: my agent, I want to be in the best situation

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02:01:28,360 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to being with a team that has

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02:01:30,120 --> 02:01:32,160
Speaker 1: a great culture and a team that I'm going to

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02:01:32,200 --> 02:01:35,280
Speaker 1: be the most successful and just being a great, great spot.

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02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:38,400
Speaker 1: So obviously I have a relationship with Josh and I

2163
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:41,240
Speaker 1: talked to him the day before I kind of committed

2164
02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 1: to signing here, and he just had an amazing things

2165
02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:45,720
Speaker 1: to say, and that's kind of the feeling I had already.

2166
02:01:45,800 --> 02:01:48,360
Speaker 1: So after that, I was just really excited. I'm excited

2167
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:50,360
Speaker 1: to be here, right now, and especially after spending some

2168
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:52,760
Speaker 1: time here, I'm couldn't be more pumped about it. So

2169
02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:55,360
Speaker 1: that's how it all came together. Yeah, everybody is really

2170
02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:58,360
Speaker 1: not surprised but kind of interested to hear that you

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02:01:58,440 --> 02:02:01,720
Speaker 1: and Josh had been roommate or teammates at Wyoming. Tell

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02:02:01,800 --> 02:02:04,520
Speaker 1: us about that history and how that and what you

2173
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:07,880
Speaker 1: saw and you know, your relationship then as teammates and

2174
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:12,680
Speaker 1: and the way it is now. Yeah, Josh came in

2175
02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:15,240
Speaker 1: m I actually hosted Josh when he came in to

2176
02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:18,520
Speaker 1: visit at Wyoming, and so I think that was my

2177
02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:21,440
Speaker 1: red shirt sophomore year when I had just gotten there

2178
02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:24,880
Speaker 1: and he came in gut out a ju go and

2179
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:27,400
Speaker 1: we actually related a lot right away because I was

2180
02:02:27,440 --> 02:02:30,520
Speaker 1: a guy that came from junior college too, and we were,

2181
02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:33,600
Speaker 1: as you know, a only D one offer pretty much,

2182
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:35,160
Speaker 1: and so we connected on that too. Is the same

2183
02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:40,040
Speaker 1: for me coming out of Arizona Western Junior College. I

2184
02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:42,680
Speaker 1: was Wyoming was my only D one offer, and so

2185
02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:44,960
Speaker 1: watched highlight tape and I was like, man, this guy

2186
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:46,720
Speaker 1: is legit and I don't know how work his only

2187
02:02:46,720 --> 02:02:49,360
Speaker 1: offer right now, but I was super glad that super

2188
02:02:49,400 --> 02:02:52,360
Speaker 1: glad that we signed him and obviously the rest is history. Yeah.

2189
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:55,320
Speaker 1: I mean you were a high school quarterback yourself, so

2190
02:02:56,920 --> 02:03:00,160
Speaker 1: I know, so how how did you kind of get

2191
02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:02,520
Speaker 1: through that transformation? I know a lot of guys changed

2192
02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:05,440
Speaker 1: positions when they get to college from high school. I mean, heck,

2193
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:07,839
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox did it too. He was a high school quarterback.

2194
02:03:08,320 --> 02:03:09,840
Speaker 1: Who's going to be in the position room with you

2195
02:03:10,120 --> 02:03:12,560
Speaker 1: in the tight end room here this season? So how

2196
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:14,640
Speaker 1: did you kind of navigate your way through that? Did

2197
02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:16,880
Speaker 1: you just kind of take it in stride? Because it's

2198
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:18,640
Speaker 1: tough being the guy with the ball in your hands

2199
02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:21,400
Speaker 1: on every play, and the game changes dramatically when you're

2200
02:03:21,400 --> 02:03:25,520
Speaker 1: not that guy anymore lining up somewhere else, right, for sure? No,

2201
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:29,680
Speaker 1: it definitely changes. I just remember being at Arizona Western

2202
02:03:29,720 --> 02:03:34,760
Speaker 1: Junior College and my head coach, coach Minnick, called me

2203
02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:36,760
Speaker 1: and he said, I feel like you're switching a tight

2204
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:38,280
Speaker 1: end is going to give you the best opportunity to

2205
02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:41,200
Speaker 1: get rerecruited that at that time, and so I remember

2206
02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:44,200
Speaker 1: calling my dad and just asking. I thought he was

2207
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:45,680
Speaker 1: going to freak out. I thought my dad was gonna

2208
02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:47,360
Speaker 1: be like, there's no way you're switching from quarterback. I

2209
02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:49,440
Speaker 1: grew up a quarterback and I remember getting my first

2210
02:03:49,480 --> 02:03:51,640
Speaker 1: Rep arm jersey when as a kid, and I, you know,

2211
02:03:51,680 --> 02:03:54,280
Speaker 1: I always love playing quarterback. And I told my dad,

2212
02:03:54,320 --> 02:03:56,440
Speaker 1: I said, and my coacher wants me to switch to

2213
02:03:56,480 --> 02:03:58,920
Speaker 1: tight end. When you think, and he said, Jacob, I

2214
02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:00,520
Speaker 1: always knew that you're going to switch to tight end,

2215
02:04:00,520 --> 02:04:02,280
Speaker 1: and I think it's a great idea and I know

2216
02:04:02,320 --> 02:04:04,480
Speaker 1: it'll be a great transition for you. So at that

2217
02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:07,120
Speaker 1: point I felt confident about it. My brother was there

2218
02:04:07,120 --> 02:04:09,400
Speaker 1: with me, and you know, he really showed me the

2219
02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:11,440
Speaker 1: ropes when it came to running routes and all that,

2220
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:14,080
Speaker 1: and the blocking kind of came along as the years

2221
02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:16,880
Speaker 1: win and so yeah, I've loved it ever since. How

2222
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:19,600
Speaker 1: long did it take you to feel comfortable in that position?

2223
02:04:21,760 --> 02:04:25,360
Speaker 1: I said, It definitely took me going to college for

2224
02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:26,920
Speaker 1: a year or two where I felt like I was

2225
02:04:26,960 --> 02:04:29,680
Speaker 1: an actual tight end. Like in junior college, I felt

2226
02:04:29,680 --> 02:04:31,960
Speaker 1: like I was an athlete that was running around at

2227
02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:33,320
Speaker 1: the tight end position and I didn't know what I

2228
02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:38,240
Speaker 1: was doing. But you know, you know grateful, I'm grateful

2229
02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:40,200
Speaker 1: that Wyoming took a chance on me and offered me

2230
02:04:40,240 --> 02:04:42,360
Speaker 1: and I end up going there, and I learned a

2231
02:04:42,400 --> 02:04:44,560
Speaker 1: lot from those coaches over there. So that's where I

2232
02:04:44,600 --> 02:04:46,800
Speaker 1: feel like I really transitioned and learned a lot about

2233
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:50,200
Speaker 1: the position was playing over at Wyoming. Your most productive

2234
02:04:50,240 --> 02:04:53,680
Speaker 1: game last season was against the Bills. I know you

2235
02:04:53,680 --> 02:04:56,040
Speaker 1: guys didn't win the game up here back I think

2236
02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:59,440
Speaker 1: it was Week nine, But there's Steve and I were

2237
02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:02,320
Speaker 1: having this kind conversation because sometimes you think about free

2238
02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 1: agents and where they land, and I don't know if

2239
02:05:06,360 --> 02:05:08,280
Speaker 1: it's just something that Steve and I have noticed, but

2240
02:05:08,360 --> 02:05:12,480
Speaker 1: sometimes guys that have their most productive games against other clubs,

2241
02:05:12,760 --> 02:05:14,840
Speaker 1: those are the very clubs that are pursuing them in

2242
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:18,720
Speaker 1: free agency. I'm curious if Brandon Bean or anybody in

2243
02:05:18,760 --> 02:05:21,640
Speaker 1: the Bills front office brought up that game because you

2244
02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:24,720
Speaker 1: were productive in that game. I mean five receptions, sixty yards.

2245
02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:28,280
Speaker 1: I mean you help keep that offense on the field. Yeah,

2246
02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:30,320
Speaker 1: I think that every team's always looked at that. I

2247
02:05:30,360 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 1: feel like I found that trend too, when you see

2248
02:05:32,480 --> 02:05:36,200
Speaker 1: a lot of teams that signed guys that they played

2249
02:05:36,240 --> 02:05:39,440
Speaker 1: against her out during the year through the season. So

2250
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:41,800
Speaker 1: obviously it turned out great with these guys. And I

2251
02:05:41,920 --> 02:05:44,920
Speaker 1: had productive game that game, and Russ was hitting me,

2252
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:47,080
Speaker 1: so it was fun. What is your What is the

2253
02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:50,360
Speaker 1: thought about you know, what were the Seahawks saying about

2254
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:52,320
Speaker 1: this Bills team after you played in that game? And

2255
02:05:52,880 --> 02:05:54,840
Speaker 1: even Pete Carroll had come out and said, listen, they

2256
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:56,920
Speaker 1: didn't even try to run it us. We were surprised

2257
02:05:56,920 --> 02:05:59,600
Speaker 1: by that. What was the thought? I know that Russ

2258
02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:02,120
Speaker 1: Wilson turned it over a couple of times in that game,

2259
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:04,600
Speaker 1: which kind of led to the disparity, you know that

2260
02:06:04,720 --> 02:06:06,480
Speaker 1: were you guys were kind of in comeback mode. What

2261
02:06:06,520 --> 02:06:08,880
Speaker 1: was the thought about the Seahawk players, what they say

2262
02:06:08,880 --> 02:06:13,000
Speaker 1: about Josh and this Bill's offense. I mean I already

2263
02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:15,600
Speaker 1: had all the you know, amazing things to say about Josh,

2264
02:06:15,640 --> 02:06:19,200
Speaker 1: and I feel like after that game kind of confirmed

2265
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:21,839
Speaker 1: all those just the fact that Josh is a playmaker

2266
02:06:21,880 --> 02:06:23,880
Speaker 1: in so many ways. And and the other thing that

2267
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:26,080
Speaker 1: you noticed right away with this team was the culture

2268
02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:29,080
Speaker 1: that the guys are really close. Because in Seattle, we

2269
02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:30,680
Speaker 1: take we would take a lot of pride in that too.

2270
02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:33,560
Speaker 1: And kind of here you see the sideline the other sideline,

2271
02:06:33,560 --> 02:06:35,960
Speaker 1: and you were watching this Bill's team, and you could

2272
02:06:35,960 --> 02:06:40,040
Speaker 1: just tell that the coaches had really good relationship with

2273
02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:42,920
Speaker 1: the players vice versa, and the players were all really

2274
02:06:42,920 --> 02:06:44,840
Speaker 1: close with each other. And so that's when you know

2275
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:46,880
Speaker 1: that you're going to have to deal with the whole team,

2276
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, the whole entire game is when you know

2277
02:06:48,680 --> 02:06:50,360
Speaker 1: that the whole that the team is all together as

2278
02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:51,920
Speaker 1: a union. And that's what we felt from this Bills

2279
02:06:51,920 --> 02:06:54,760
Speaker 1: team for sure. Speaking of being all together, it's not

2280
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:57,480
Speaker 1: just you and Josh Hanner. Janry's on this roster right now,

2281
02:06:57,480 --> 02:06:59,120
Speaker 1: are you guys? Is Josh gonna have about just all

2282
02:06:59,160 --> 02:07:01,160
Speaker 1: you guys room together there? Again? What's the deal here?

2283
02:07:01,200 --> 02:07:05,120
Speaker 1: It's like Wyoming East. It's awesome and the wire crew

2284
02:07:05,240 --> 02:07:07,680
Speaker 1: is back in business. Similar weather two over here, so

2285
02:07:07,720 --> 02:07:10,320
Speaker 1: we're used to it. And then I know you've played

2286
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:13,160
Speaker 1: in front of these, in front of these I think

2287
02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:14,960
Speaker 1: you played here in front of fans before, right when

2288
02:07:14,960 --> 02:07:16,520
Speaker 1: you were with New England. You've been here, so you've

2289
02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:19,960
Speaker 1: experienced that game day atmosphere. What's it going to be like,

2290
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:24,320
Speaker 1: you think to be on the right side of it.

2291
02:07:23,640 --> 02:07:25,680
Speaker 1: It'll be nice to be on this side of it

2292
02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:28,560
Speaker 1: rather than you know, fans streaming at us coming in

2293
02:07:28,720 --> 02:07:30,720
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, especially when I was in New England.

2294
02:07:31,080 --> 02:07:32,960
Speaker 1: I'll be on the right side of your watching fans

2295
02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:34,600
Speaker 1: break tables and stuff like that, so I'll be a

2296
02:07:34,640 --> 02:07:38,960
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Well, Jacob's great talking to you. Congratulations

2297
02:07:38,960 --> 02:07:41,040
Speaker 1: on the signing. Can't wait to see you guys take

2298
02:07:41,120 --> 02:07:43,160
Speaker 1: the field, and we wish you all the best. Have

2299
02:07:43,200 --> 02:07:45,400
Speaker 1: a great offseason. Any word on what that's gonna look

2300
02:07:45,440 --> 02:07:49,120
Speaker 1: like this offseason any more normal? No word yet. Yeah,

2301
02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:50,920
Speaker 1: we'll find it out here pretty soon. All right, Well,

2302
02:07:50,960 --> 02:07:52,440
Speaker 1: thanks for giving us some time. We know you've got

2303
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:54,320
Speaker 1: some other media commitments. Good luck. We look forward to

2304
02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:56,960
Speaker 1: seeing you on the field. Jacob, Thanks, appreciate you guys.

2305
02:07:57,000 --> 02:07:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm going all right that Bill's newest tight end Jacob

2306
02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:03,760
Speaker 1: Hollister or Jake, depending on what you prefer. He doesn't

2307
02:08:03,880 --> 02:08:06,240
Speaker 1: I'd like to go with Jake, But he said by

2308
02:08:06,320 --> 02:08:08,200
Speaker 1: what did he say his parents call him Jacob? That

2309
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:12,760
Speaker 1: makes sense. I guess he's got yeah, and he must be.

2310
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:15,240
Speaker 1: It must be identical twin because he says people call

2311
02:08:15,320 --> 02:08:17,480
Speaker 1: him that sometimes too. And I guess he's got a

2312
02:08:17,480 --> 02:08:20,280
Speaker 1: football background also, because he was talking about how his

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Speaker 1: brother kind of taught him how to run route. So

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Speaker 1: it looks sounds like Jacob was the quarterback and Cody

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Speaker 1: was either a receiver or a tight end himself. So

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Speaker 1: there it is. But yeah, good to catch up with him.

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Speaker 1: And I think people forget heck I did that. He

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Speaker 1: began his career in New England, won a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: with the Patriots, uh in seventeen so, and played well

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Speaker 1: against the Bills last year that we went back and looked,

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Speaker 1: and I went back and watched that game, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: he there were I think he had five catches. I

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Speaker 1: think at least three of them, maybe four of them

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Speaker 1: um were first downs, um, if not all of them.

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Speaker 1: He was. He really really played well for him And

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Speaker 1: of course the you know a tight end position, man,

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Speaker 1: when he a guy that does it, teams struggle to

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02:09:02,040 --> 02:09:04,920
Speaker 1: cover it, and Bills do and every team does struggle.

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Speaker 1: Everybody struggles to cover good players. I got it done

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Speaker 1: against the Bills. We didn't really get too deep in

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02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:15,480
Speaker 1: the weeds with Jake on this, but like, how pumped

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02:09:16,160 --> 02:09:20,120
Speaker 1: has Josh gotta be? Like he said, he called Josh

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Speaker 1: right before he officially committed and said, yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take the deal with Buffalo. And he called Josh first

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02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:27,360
Speaker 1: and he said, well, he probably how do you feel

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Speaker 1: about me coming to buffalo. He can't you a man?

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02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:30,960
Speaker 1: He must have been over the moon. You see how

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Speaker 1: happy those two guys are on the photo we showed

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02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:35,200
Speaker 1: our MSG viewers after the Seattle game they took a

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Speaker 1: picture together. I mean, those two guys are like two

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02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:40,320
Speaker 1: peas in a pod man. And they're the same heights.

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02:09:40,360 --> 02:09:42,080
Speaker 1: I know, I was just gonna say that the same height.

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02:09:42,120 --> 02:09:44,440
Speaker 1: We shot jokes with him, who's taller? I mean, I

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02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:46,520
Speaker 1: you know, I do commercials with Josh, and I'm like,

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02:09:46,520 --> 02:09:48,400
Speaker 1: the top of my head is like to the bottom

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02:09:48,400 --> 02:09:50,520
Speaker 1: of his shoulder, right, and these both those guys are

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02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:52,680
Speaker 1: standing there like it's you know, they could be five

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02:09:52,680 --> 02:09:54,880
Speaker 1: to nine. They're so close in height. They gotta be

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02:09:54,920 --> 02:09:57,360
Speaker 1: both six six easy. I mean, I'll see what he's

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Speaker 1: listed at, but I'm pretty sure it's gotta be six

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02:09:59,600 --> 02:10:03,160
Speaker 1: five to be at least. Yeah, yeah, I see here

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02:10:03,160 --> 02:10:05,800
Speaker 1: it says six four two forty five, but I'd give

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02:10:05,880 --> 02:10:08,240
Speaker 1: him six five. Look at him standing next to Josh there,

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02:10:08,400 --> 02:10:10,760
Speaker 1: but yeah, both of us give him that. Josh as

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02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:12,960
Speaker 1: tall as a tree. So and I know that so

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02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:16,480
Speaker 1: interesting stuff. And it's gonna be fun to watch them

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02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:19,800
Speaker 1: watch him there. And I think the bills um are

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02:10:19,880 --> 02:10:24,160
Speaker 1: falling into a trend with their roster makeup. We hear

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02:10:24,160 --> 02:10:26,200
Speaker 1: about it, and I know we're kind of neck deep

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02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:28,800
Speaker 1: in it. Like that. We watched the Chiefs from Afar.

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02:10:28,840 --> 02:10:30,760
Speaker 1: They got they went out and got to Tyreek Hill

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02:10:30,840 --> 02:10:33,480
Speaker 1: and they got they got Travis Kelsey, they got Edwards

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02:10:33,520 --> 02:10:36,000
Speaker 1: Hilaire and then they got Sammy Watkins. You know, then

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02:10:36,040 --> 02:10:39,880
Speaker 1: they they start they're just piling on with offensive weapons out,

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02:10:39,880 --> 02:10:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, the offensive line and all that, and they

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02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:44,000
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time and a lot of money

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02:10:44,040 --> 02:10:45,560
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball. And then a league

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02:10:45,600 --> 02:10:50,320
Speaker 1: that's built and legislated and officiated like the NFL is

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02:10:50,360 --> 02:10:52,640
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense. And as much as

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02:10:52,680 --> 02:10:54,880
Speaker 1: New England is being talked about as you know, going

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02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:57,360
Speaker 1: back to this two tight end matchup problem thing and

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02:10:57,400 --> 02:11:01,120
Speaker 1: they're both pass catchers and they're both athletes. Bills kind

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02:11:01,120 --> 02:11:03,560
Speaker 1: of have that now too with Hollister here like that,

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Speaker 1: Hollister and Knox. I mean, I could see Dable putting

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Speaker 1: both those guys on the field at the same time

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02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:09,720
Speaker 1: a good deal this season. I could see it. Yeah,

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02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:11,920
Speaker 1: it's interesting too because if yeah, because you know, the

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02:11:11,920 --> 02:11:14,720
Speaker 1: Patriots can work that offense really well, like they did

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02:11:14,760 --> 02:11:19,320
Speaker 1: back at you know in two ten, twenty eleven. There's

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02:11:19,320 --> 02:11:21,280
Speaker 1: a lot of tape out there that you can certainly

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02:11:21,320 --> 02:11:23,360
Speaker 1: played your eye and get some really good play. Dable

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02:11:23,520 --> 02:11:26,120
Speaker 1: was up there, yeah, when it was going on. So

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Speaker 1: there it is. We have to take a break, but

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Speaker 1: Steve and I back to wrap things up when we return.

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Speaker 1: Here on a Monday edition of One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health, this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Have

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Speaker 1: We Learned? Brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction

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Speaker 1: of Cleiman Rental Company of the Buffalo Bills. Had NFL

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Speaker 1: Executive Vice President of Operations Troy Vincent on the show today,

2390
02:12:03,040 --> 02:12:07,200
Speaker 1: covering a number of topics with him, including the forthcoming

2391
02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:11,839
Speaker 1: plans for a seventeenth game to the regular season schedule.

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02:12:12,280 --> 02:12:16,400
Speaker 1: Here are Troy's thoughts on that it actually presents some

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02:12:16,640 --> 02:12:20,760
Speaker 1: opportunities here. Want some flexibility, maybe on the international fund,

2394
02:12:21,320 --> 02:12:24,400
Speaker 1: but I like the idea of being able to create

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02:12:24,440 --> 02:12:30,200
Speaker 1: some competitiveness inside the conference, being able to schedule some

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Speaker 1: some games that we the schedule doesn't allow us to

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Speaker 1: do in sixteen games, but there's some matchups I think

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Speaker 1: that we all would like to see in conference that

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Speaker 1: I think that I believe the seventeen game that flexibility

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Speaker 1: it allows us to do so again, the odd number

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02:12:49,040 --> 02:12:52,520
Speaker 1: will just deal with that. I do believe eventually will

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Speaker 1: get to potentially even making that even so, essentially, what

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Speaker 1: we're looking at, for those that don't know is the

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Speaker 1: Bills would host Washington this year as their seventeenth game,

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02:13:06,400 --> 02:13:10,480
Speaker 1: the AFC is hosting this year, the NFC will host

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02:13:10,520 --> 02:13:14,240
Speaker 1: their seventeenth game next year. And you heard it that

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Speaker 1: the tasker plans come into fruition. It's gonna be an

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be an eighteen game schedule. You better get

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02:13:19,840 --> 02:13:21,640
Speaker 1: a pamphlet put together on that so you can get

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Speaker 1: some tu man start the season earlier two weeks and

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02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:29,240
Speaker 1: take the take Labor Day off. I do think eventually

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Speaker 1: that some of these games, maybe after we get out

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Speaker 1: from under this pandemic, especially with things not going so

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Speaker 1: well in Europe right now in some countries, that they'll

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Speaker 1: start looking internationally again, maybe in twenty two, and they

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Speaker 1: utilize that seventeen games as soon as they can. They'll

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Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. They'll

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Speaker 1: do it, and it's gonna be better. They'll make it better.

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Speaker 1: Our thanks to Jacob Hollister for taking the time to

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Speaker 1: join us. He'll be meeting with the media in about

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Speaker 1: five minutes time, and we'll have plenty more to discuss tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: free agency, the upcoming draft. There's plenty to discuss always

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the NFL, Steve, and I'll do

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Speaker 1: that here with you tomorrow on One Bills Live. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you then,