1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast starts at QB for the 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Jaguars this week. Welcome back to another edition of the 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: I am joined by a room failed with heroes Mark Sessler, 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rosatal. What's up boys? Hey? Dan? 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: All right? Week eleven, Sunday. In the books, Mark, the 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: train keeps rolling, keeps going, whether we wanted to or not, 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: and we do, I mean I wanted to keep moving along. Yeah, 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean, well you do want to get those sandwiches 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: for when you predicted there will be no winner of 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: a suit the Super Bowl, so that the train might 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: stop early. Not concerned about that. That was a prediction 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: I've nailed already. We're all very worried about that prediction. Now. Um. Yes, 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: this is the Sunday flagship edition of the Around the 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast, where recap all the Sunday games. You can 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: watch us right now in Periscope. Have we sent out 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: the appropriate romps on our own Twitter? Very good? Very good? 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Uh so yes you can. Every Sunday you can watch 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: us live on Periscope right around usually around that five 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: pm Pacific time. Markers when we get going, and of 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: course our audio listeners um always you know what if 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: we where to find us and when to find us? 23 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: There's there's a structure involved here. There's been a couple 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: of really good weeks of NFL action. I thought things 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: slowed down a little bit today in terms of uh, 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: you know when. The biggest storyline is that we set 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: a monitored modern Super Bowl NFL record for missed extra points. 28 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: And that's the big takeaway so far this week for 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people. Maybe this wasn't the best week, 30 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: but still it's fun to talk about football, and that's 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We got a lot of games 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: to talk about. Should we get into it please? Yeah, 33 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: Well we might as well start with the best team 34 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: in the NFC right now, the Dallas Cowboys. This is 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: an eight minute drive for the Cowboys, second and eight 36 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: of the Raven thirteen. Bletch here they come, Prescott slap 37 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: days five. Does the Cowboys have two touchdown? League? What 38 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: a sham? Brad shamp kr LC, Dez Bryant and Dak 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: Prescott hooked up for two scores and the Cowboys scored 40 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: on each of their final five possessions on their way 41 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: seventeen win over the Baltimore Ravens. Oh who locked that 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: one up? A fearless mark kicking and one Cowboys not. 43 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: It's not an upset of the week. I don't know 44 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: why this continues to be a thing with this so 45 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: called segment. I mean, all right, you got it right. 46 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: Want to know in week eleven locks gratul That's how 47 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: I look at it. Gregen win for the Cowboys over 48 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: the Ravens. The Dallas often sputtered here early before reminding 49 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: us once again how dangerous they could be, regardless of 50 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: their opponents. I am so impressed by Dak Prescott and 51 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys coaching staff in terms of their ability to adjust. 52 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: We've seen this a number of times where they start slow. 53 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: Dean P's, who has done a great job with the 54 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: Ravens defense despite his unfortunate name, confused them early. Lots 55 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: of blitzes, lots of short drives for Dallas. They didn't 56 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: know where the rusher was going. They made their adjustments, 57 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: he got the ball out of his hand quickly, took 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: a lot of hits early in this game, and then 59 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: they just make it look so easy. Only ended up 60 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: with nine drives in the entire game. First four punted, 61 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: last five scored. I mean they only had three the 62 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: entire second half, and they were ten play drive, four 63 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,279 Speaker 1: team play drive, third team play drives that ended in touchdowns. 64 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: They get the ball back with eight minutes left, and 65 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: they basically just killed the clock the rest of the game. 66 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: At that point, it was still a game. I mean, 67 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: Baltimore was in this, but Dak Prescott's just it's shown 68 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: he can come from behind. Forget this. Let's see what 69 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: they do when they're trailing. They do pretty well. When 70 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: they're in that last drive where they they closed the 71 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: game out, you thought Baltimore might have one or two, 72 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: maybe even two more shots. Dallas is the one team 73 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: in the league right now that consistently does that in 74 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: the second half when they're up at will, They're the 75 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: one team you can count on to do that. I 76 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: think it says a lot about their offense that they're 77 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: not one dimensional. They're playing the best run defense in 78 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: the NFL. Statistically, Zekil Elliott still almost gets a hundred yards. 79 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: But then a guy like Dez Bryan, who's been an 80 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: afterthought for most of the season, comes through with a 81 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: pair of touchdown and he looked really good. He looked 82 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: like Dak I mean, like Dez after the catch, you know, 83 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: busting through some tackles, out muscling a defender in the 84 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: end zone for a touchdown. But I really liked his 85 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: movement in this game. And you said it. You know, 86 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: Elliott only had twenty six yards in the first half. 87 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: A lot of those yards came in that last you know, 88 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: driver to for him. They won the game on third 89 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: down with Prescott throwing by making the right decisions, and 90 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: he's always just there were some throws in this game 91 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: that he had to have in just the right place 92 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: to get it over an outstretched defender. They were smart 93 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: to pick on the side of the field where Jimmy 94 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: Smith would have been, and they made a really good 95 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: defense look pretty bad for the last three quarters. This 96 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: to me, was another kind of hurdle game for Prescott 97 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: for anyone that doubts him at all. Uh, you know, 98 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: I was focused on other games at this point in 99 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: the day. But you know, you you heard, you saw 100 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: the tweets about how the Cowboys are struggling, and then 101 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: I saw an update where they showed a trainer looking 102 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: at Prescott's left shoulder arm, like, oh, again, is this 103 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: going to be the game where and then all of 104 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, two hours later it's same old, 105 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: same old, and he has another three on the yard 106 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: game where he plays. And it's notable to me that 107 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: before the game's got started day on every pregame show, 108 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: it's endless footage of Tony Romo, And honestly, our own 109 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: network had probably of the O their of their pregame show, 110 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: eight percent of it was Romo focused. That was the 111 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: first game where he's back and able to play. If 112 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: the runny issue with Prescott what he put up today, Prescott, 113 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean, we we keep forgetting he's a rookie. Everyone's wondering, 114 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: how did Jared Goff do today? Well, let's talk about 115 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: the best rookie quarterback in football right now. Prescott, week 116 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: after week, no matter what you throw at him, succeeds. 117 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: And the Cowboys defense deserves credit because in the first half, 118 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens had a number of chances to 119 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: make this a two score game. And and Joe Flacco 120 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: who said after this game, I have that actution, oh 121 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: you do. So what Joe Flacco said after the game, 122 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: I felt I felt very confident coming into this game, 123 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: and I really feel like we should beat this team. 124 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: We should be pretty much every team we play. And 125 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: by the way, this was a couple of days after 126 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: Ray Lewis came out and called out his his lack 127 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: of fire in Lewis's opinion, which didn't seem very fair 128 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: since Joe Flacco is the reason ray Lewis went out 129 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: a champion, but uh seemed like an answer to that 130 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: in a way maybe. But uh, you know, I I 131 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm doing this right here, but come 132 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: back to us, Joe, right, I mean, we should beat them. 133 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: You're one of the biggest reasons why this team isn't 134 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: better there. They're a bad passing attack and Flacco missed 135 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: a couple of routine throws and he throws it short 136 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: of the sticks on third and long so much it 137 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: really drives me crazy watching this team. Steve Smith played 138 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: great in this game. You know he should be best 139 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: offensive player. He is all the way back, you know what. 140 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: Mike Wallace is on pace for a thousand yards, had 141 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: a number of good plays in this game. They have 142 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: some weapons. They ran the ball pretty well against the 143 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys for a hundred yards. They did a lot of 144 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: things well, I think that speaks out good. The Cowboys 145 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: are that a that a team with a winning record 146 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: did a lot of things well. I think the Ravens 147 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: played basically their B plus game and they still lose 148 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: by two scores. Cowboys nine wins in a row, which 149 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: they never did even during the glory days with Troy 150 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: and Jimmy and Mr Irvan. Let's check in on the 151 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: other NFC superpower. Toss Bold's gonna throw back to Russell. 152 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: He's got it touta Hawks? Who are you kidding me? 153 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: Jorg Bold one takes the end a round to the right, 154 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: stopped prow factor Russell Wilson his first receiving touchdown of 155 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: his NFL career for fifteen yards out good Seahawks pull 156 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: out all the stuff, Steve abel k I r Oh 157 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson through one touchdown pass and yes, as you 158 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: just heard, caught another one as the Seahawks ease their 159 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: way past the Philadelphia Eagles fifteen win at the clink. 160 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, the Seahawks are now six two and one 161 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: and they've run away. Excuse me, seven to two and one. 162 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: They've run away with the NFC. West Uh, that's no 163 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: longer a race. Are the Cowboys the only team in 164 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: their class in this conference? You could put the Falcons 165 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: in there if you wanted to, But the Falcons are 166 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: six and four. It seems like they're a game and 167 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: a half behind the Seahawks. It seems to me like 168 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: the Seahawks and Cowboys are on a collision course for 169 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: January twenty two in the NFC Championship game. Clearly the 170 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,359 Speaker 1: two best teams in the division, and this is Seattle's 171 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: time of year. Their thirty one and six from November 172 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: on since drafting Russell Wilson. I thought today's first half 173 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: they had three hundred yards by halftime against the top 174 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: ten NFL d I thought this was the best, most explosive, 175 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: big play offense they've had in the Russell Wilson era. 176 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: When you've got healthy Jimmy Graham, Thomas Rawls is back, 177 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: Tyler Locketts as fast as he's ever been now, Doug 178 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: Duck Baldwin's the top ten NFL wide receiver. Russell Wilson's 179 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: eluding pressure. C J. Procise has a seventy two yard touchdown, 180 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: and that's the one red flag with this victory. They 181 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: lose c J. Prosise to a scapula injury. Looks like 182 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: it might be a fractured shoulder blade. Pete Carroll says 183 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: he's a chance he comes back, but it will be 184 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: a while if that happens this season. There's a chance. 185 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: That is a big issue. And again we were all 186 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: surprised when we heard on the podcast on Tuesday while 187 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: we were taping that Kristen Michael was released. Man, they 188 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: could really use him right now. Well what c J. 189 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: Spiller was released? Kristen Michael was released. Troy Troy Maine Pope, 190 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: who got the elevation from the practice squad, had a 191 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: high ankle sprain. In this game, they're running back depth. 192 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: That's her team. But almost almost like Dallas, it seems 193 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: every week someone else is step someone new is stepping 194 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: up for Seattle, or someone that wasn't the person who 195 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: was the focus the week before. They have so many 196 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: weapons and Russell Wilson's back to being Russell Wilson again. 197 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: Here's a quote from Doug Baldwin after the game on 198 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. He's the best player in the league right 199 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: now by far old words. I don't know if that's 200 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: true or not, but you you said, this is as 201 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: explosive as you've seen seen them, And I'm thinking back 202 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: to the last three weeks what Wilson's put together, and 203 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: really the offense is a whole. That game against Buffalo 204 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: where they had about as good at first half as 205 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: you could ever imagine. Same thing here against Philadelphia you 206 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: dropped thirty one on the Patriots. I think his season 207 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: was underrated the first six or seven weeks. I don't 208 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: think he was nearly as bad as the fantasy stats said. 209 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 1: That game against the Jets is a good example, a 210 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: lot of good play from the pocket. But I'm with 211 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin Russell Wilson might be playing the best of 212 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: any quarterback. I think it's no small thing too, And 213 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: it would be a shame if we don't see Dallas 214 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: in Seattle in the NFC Championship. I like the Falcons plenty, 215 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: but it would be a shame if that doesn't happen. 216 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: But I mean, the core of the team that went 217 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and destroyed the Broncos, those core players, 218 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: for a large part, are still on this team. I 219 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: mean they just there. Nothing that happens to Seattle is 220 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: going to shake them psychologically, they they no matter what 221 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: happened to them the start of the season, they keep 222 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: every year finding themselves back in this position. This makes 223 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: you think any different about the Eagles that they were 224 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: relatively not competitive in this game. I'm a little surprised, No, 225 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: because I don't write for football outsiders, so I was 226 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: under no delusion that they were the number one team 227 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL. They this seems to me, what not 228 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: even to me anyway, a lot robial, magnifico, wach just 229 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: this is who they are. They're like they can hang 230 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: maybe and not get embarrassed by Seattle on the road, 231 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: but they can't. Actually they got embarrassed. It doesn't look 232 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: like they got embarrassed because of garbage time. This game 233 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: was over by the start of the fourth quarter. Russell 234 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: Wilson had as many receiving yards as the entire Philadelphia 235 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: wide receiver corps. That's not good. If wasn't a first 236 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: round pick, he would be cut by now. He had 237 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: them in a legal formation penalty that ullified at touchdown. 238 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: They would have been ahead at that point. So maybe 239 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: you know the Eagles coach Doug Peterson, he's waving frantically 240 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: trying to get him to get on sides, getting the 241 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: formation correctly, cannot get his attention, and then a long 242 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: touchdown wiped out to And it goes to show you 243 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: that first impressions in an NFL season have a long 244 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: shelf life because Phillies start in cars. In the start 245 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: for Carson Wentz had a lot of people thinking they 246 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: were more than they were. Doug Peterson inherited a lot 247 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: of junk. This team was garbage at the end of 248 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: last season. They're five and five. I think that's what 249 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: they are. We didn't mention them in the NFC contender list. 250 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: We mentioned the Falcons is the only other team, and 251 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: the Falcons went into Seattle and showed that they could compete. 252 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: Philadelphia is not anywhere close to them. They've had a 253 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: road heavy schedule, one in five away from home, so 254 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: they've they've had dramatic splits. I'm not counting them out 255 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: for the wild card race, but they're mix and and 256 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Seahawks five and oh at home, 257 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: and it just makes all those NFC East games the 258 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys have coming up, because they're basically two up on 259 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: Seattle for the number one seed. So Dallas is in 260 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: a good spot but they have to be careful. All 261 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: those division games for them are tough to stay. Every 262 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: one of these NFC's teams still play each other. We 263 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: can keep talking about the Eagles like they're a wild 264 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: card contender, but they're in last place in their division. 265 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: They've got to climb the Giants and Redskins to get 266 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: in that picture. Let's stick in the NFC and take 267 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: a look at two other teams that are hoping to 268 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: be in the playoffs. Carson Fires lapt it picked up 269 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: by Tilly, stays to the party, to the party to 270 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: the twenty touchdown in the field touchdown by Dady Roads. 271 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: He marks the spot at US Banks Stadium. Paul Alan 272 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: kay f a end. Does that get in our in 273 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: our Let's mark that one, Sydney for our top ten 274 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: calls of the season, not saying it's definitely gonna make it, 275 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: but it deserves I appreciate his enthusiasm. He was, he 276 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: was completely bought in. The streak is over for the 277 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: team of a t l Uh. The Vikings got a 278 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: one hundred yard interception returns from Xavier Rhodes what you 279 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: heard and the one hundred and three kickoff yard kickoff 280 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: return for a cordial Patterson uh in a thirty to 281 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: win over the Cardinals at us Bank Stadium. Oh, somebody 282 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: locks him up. That's because I got faith in the 283 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: team of a t L way to Viking lock it 284 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: up in a big spot, in a big spot, I 285 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: picked the Vikings as well. Yeah, that's great, and cousins, 286 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: come join us, get back in. We're gonna get back in, 287 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: back in North. That's lousy. We got some special teams. Touchdownsdown. 288 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: Let Mark come back. What's the issue? Well, you picked 289 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: against him in a coin flip game, big deal. Well, 290 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: they were the better team in this game, the Vikings. 291 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean maybe they did have two hunderd and seventeen yards, 292 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: which is troubling. It's a little bit of the formula 293 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: early in the season. Yes, they needed to have the 294 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: first game in more than fifty years plays in it. Hey, 295 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: those are plays. Though they did it. They got out gained, 296 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: and yeah they may be outplayed the Cardinals. This game 297 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: could have gone either way. We'll wait, Chris, let me 298 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: ask you something from a different angle, or you can 299 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: we officially be concerned about the Cardinals at this point. 300 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Carson came on this show three weeks ago 301 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: and said, let's fork the Cardinals. They don't have an 302 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: offensive line. Carson was hit fifteen times to day. It's 303 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: the first quarterback all year to be pressured on or 304 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: more of his dropbacks in a single game. According to 305 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: Pro Football as looks like an old man now. He 306 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: doesn't move well in the pocket. We've been saying that 307 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: all season. Happened quickly, you know, Tom Brady think not 308 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: looking good. But just another reminder here how quickly these 309 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: things happened. His cast isn't nearly as good or playing 310 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: nearly as well this year, but especially on that last 311 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: drive where they had a chance at the end of 312 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: the game to actually steal a game out right, because 313 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: it was a six point difference and the pass rush 314 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: was coming after him, he had nowhere to go and 315 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: couldn't move. Couldn't move. I mean, their second leading receiver 316 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: if you don't count David Johnson, is Jermaine Gresham two 317 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: for thirty three, who had a highlight real right, But 318 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: what hap what happens that receiving corps like Michael Floyd 319 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: had the flu today, So that's one reason why you 320 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: might not expect him to do as well. But I 321 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: mean your quarterback is on the run, and you're asking 322 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: a guy who's not mobile to be on the run. 323 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: We talked about it on Thursday. If this if whether 324 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: you think the Vikings have a good pass rush or not, 325 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: they got the job done today. Cardinals oh line will 326 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: make a lot of teams get healthy on their pass rush. 327 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: John Brown's a guy, though, that was a difference maker. 328 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,119 Speaker 1: Now you look at this game, for instance, four targets, 329 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: no catches. He was the one targeted on that hundred 330 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: yard reception, our interception return, which you could say he 331 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: had a little part of. Maybe he was held, maybe 332 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: he didn't fight through it. I was shocked to see 333 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: Xavier Rhodes pulling a from John Brown on a hundred 334 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: yard sprint like road. You know what kind of miles 335 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: priority you think? Xavier roads were almost exclusively NFL players 336 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: run a twenty one point four miles. Since you're saying 337 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: that he pulled away from John Brown, I'm gonna say 338 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: he ran twenty one point nine. I think it was 339 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: two point four, which is the past, which is one 340 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: of the highest speeds by anybody with the ball in 341 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: their hands all year this year. That play that was 342 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: behind us there, that drew a pass interference. That trick 343 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: played by the Vikings. They pulled out all the stops today. 344 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: They they it's set up what it set up as 345 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: Yada's touchdown there right there, but that a little flip 346 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: past to Bradford and Downfield liked it. We talked about 347 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: that on Thursday, that they could not lose five in 348 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: a row here, especially with the kind of a wounded animal. 349 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: Um don't do the drop, said, we don't want Peter 350 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: coming after us. UH Cardinals team that did not even 351 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: look good in their win against San Francisco last week 352 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: at home. This is a game that Vikings had to 353 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: have and they played with urgency is out a game there. 354 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: They've been letting too many games get out the door 355 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: of the season. It's a shame their offensive line and 356 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: running backs have been such a big problem this year 357 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: because I think we were right about a lot about 358 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: this team that Adam Feeling and Cordaryl Patterson are good 359 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: wide receivers. Now, Feeling was a difference in this game. 360 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: He was their number one receiver with with Patrick Peterson 361 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,239 Speaker 1: basically taking Digs out of the game, and Feeling came 362 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: up huge. He's had He's had a pretty good year. 363 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: Cordaryl Patterson is making plays every week, and Sam Bradford 364 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: is still having his best season of his career. Now 365 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: go ahead, no, no, no, no, I'll go no. Greg 366 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. I think that Cardinals find ways to lose games. 367 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: They seem like they have like a losing mentality that 368 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: whatever they can do to lose a game, they will. 369 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: I agree, even when they look a little bit shocking, 370 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: because you know, they were about to have another year 371 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: long documentary about them and Bruce Arians and everyone else 372 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: done about them, and it's there a shadow of themselves, 373 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: and as is their division. The NFC West, which was 374 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: such a beast recently, is just a disaster right now. 375 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: I think the window is closed on the Cardinals as 376 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender, at least this group. Carson Palmer 377 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: looks old all of a sudden, that wide receiver group 378 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: which West. I'm sure when you wrote your pieces about 379 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: the best groups, they were always near the top. Lara 380 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald could retire after this year. John Brown is m 381 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: I a Michael Floyd's a week to week proposition. I mean, 382 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: we're they resigned Geron Brown, and people I think excited 383 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: about that. I don't know, I think he's too early 384 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: to put them to bed for good. As far as 385 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: their Super Bowl window, it wouldn't surprise me if they 386 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: protected Carson Palmer better next year and he has a 387 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: good year. Do you think he definitely is their starting 388 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: quarterback next season? I do. I think his contract makes 389 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: him that, and I think arians still likes him. And 390 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: I think if you look at pure offense total yards, 391 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: there a top ten offense wells to start here for 392 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: our team of eight t l you know they got 393 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: off the schnight since we picked them there on Thanksgiving 394 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: in a battle for first place. Two wins in four days, 395 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: but against the Lions. To start, say, we're all on 396 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: the same page here, We're all in. If they can 397 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: win on Thursday, that four game losing streak will be 398 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: ancient history. Oh yeah, all right, let's move on. That's 399 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: check out what's going on over in the a f 400 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: C takes the snap, final play of the game. The 401 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: Bengals need its touchdown to win. Buffalo needs to stop. 402 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: He've torn the inso that's knockdown in complete and Buffalo 403 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: will win. Andy Dalton's Heaven at the Horn does not 404 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: find a home, and the Buffalo Bills have come to 405 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: Cincinnati to keep their playoff hopes alive and beating the 406 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: Bengal sixteen twelve, Hey Murph John Murphy W G r 407 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 1: uh said this was one of those games unhappy withoutcome 408 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: but to keep it in let's hope, so for the 409 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengal's sake, because Andy Dalton's desperation prayer one when 410 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: unanswered as time ran out. You just heard that and 411 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: we all inched once depth closer to a January without 412 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: west of this following a sixteen twelve Bills victory over 413 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals in Cincinnati. Um, you know the big story 414 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: out of this? Yeah, Cincinnati? Uh, what are they three 415 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: six and one now? Which is a dreadful record, and 416 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: that's gonna be hard come back from. I'd rather be 417 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: three and seven than three six and one. Take that's 418 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: a terrible take, that's not coming back from it. Arguably 419 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: the worst takeover on this podcast. But if you're gonna 420 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: be bad, don't have that ugly one there. It's just 421 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: ear but it gets even worse. Your three six and 422 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: one you just lost at home to Rex Ryan and 423 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: now a j Green suffered. What we're hearing is a 424 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: serious hamstring injury that could end a season. And if 425 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: a j Green season is over, the Cincinna did Bengals 426 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: seasons over? Let's be honest, uh, And this is also, guys, 427 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: a game where Bengals kicker Mike Nugent missed two extra 428 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: points in the first half, two of those eleven record 429 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: breaking even Mrs uh and the Bank Cincinnati had the ball, 430 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: you know, around midfield with thirty seconds to play down 431 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: four points. You can do the map there. Even I 432 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: could do the map there. And I once got a 433 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: thirty nine on a statement dated that cost them the 434 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: game essentially. So here here we are the Buffalo Bills, 435 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: greg though still alive, still alive? Did they're a team there? 436 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: Next week? There could They're a team that's managing to 437 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: win games with their number one receiver. You know, at 438 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: the point of the game when Robert Woods goes out 439 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: as who Marquis Goodwin or it was a bunch of guys. 440 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: It was a bunch of guys catching passes for them. 441 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: Only one of them had been on the team in 442 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: August and that was Goodwin. It's just Brandon Tate and 443 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: Justin Hunter and in Percy Harvin. Who you know shocker 444 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: hasn't come back lighting the world on fire. Uh thus far? Yeah, 445 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: I think I think that this is a team. I 446 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: feel like they were killed by injuries next year too, 447 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: if I recall, and it's happening again, and Lashawn McCoy 448 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: left this game, there's a really nice win for Buffalo. 449 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: And I know Sinati is not good this year, but 450 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: being able to hold off their defense played incredibly well. 451 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: I thought Cincinnati's offense look terrible. Uh, and now you 452 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: lose Shady McCoy um to a dislocated thumb that he's 453 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: gonna have surgery on from what I'm hearing, And the 454 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: reports are out there that they're gonna hope he plays 455 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: next week. But you know we've already seen West before 456 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: them be overly optimistic with a McCoy timetable that leads 457 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: to a setback. Who knows, Yeah, this one. The advantage 458 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: here is that it's a thumb injury and not a hamstring, 459 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: so shouldn't limit his movement at all. You think he'd 460 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: come back, that's fine. Where are you at? West? West 461 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: was not gonna happen. How do you fill the void? Well? 462 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's they're only a game and a half 463 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: out of first place, but they have three wins. The 464 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: Ravens Stealers ostensibly look like better teams. Would you admit 465 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: that like they have a bet? One of those teams 466 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: should finish with a winning record. Unlike my esteem colleague 467 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, who denied basic mathematical principles by saying he 468 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: rather be three six and one. Well, you can get 469 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: a better draft pick three and seven. I think the 470 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: Steelers have to be considered heavy favorites now that they're 471 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: relatively healthy in this division. The Bengals play the Ravens 472 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: next week, so they can make up ground on them. 473 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm a little in denial about West Hoast. Yes, well, listen, 474 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: look at the Bengals are done. Here is their schedule. 475 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 1: You've got the Ravens, the Eagles, the Browns. You may 476 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: even not beat the Browns. You never know the Steelers, 477 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: the Texans and the Ravens. And they've never won a 478 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: game without a j Green since Well, that's exactly what 479 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 1: splits when without him on the field. With Andy Dalton's 480 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: your quarterback, I mean, look, you lost your number one 481 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: core player on offense. They're best player by far this year, 482 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: and and they haven't been able to find anyone next 483 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: to him. Forget trying to find people open. Now that 484 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: he's gone, yeah there, Fox, forget it. They're going to 485 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: Baltimore next week. The Baltimore can officially kill them. Should 486 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: we convene the four Committee one last time the week 487 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: you need to just you know, set tie up some 488 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: loose ends. And Cincinnati will obviously be one of the 489 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: teams we talk about, so we could leave us in. 490 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: The Bills will not be forked. Now they got some 491 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: heard this. This Bill's team has some heart quarterbacks and 492 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: they every game is at home by two games, right, 493 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: Mark Rex. Ryan has done a nice job a coaching 494 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: job this year. True, I think that he has. I 495 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: think we've been saying that for a month plus two. 496 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn has done a great crew. Let's let's also Ryan, 497 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: they have done a good job. But if they go 498 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: eight and eight, and that's what they're on paced, right, 499 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: let's also not get two carried away year two of 500 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: their program and we all get carried. I do think 501 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: they've overcome. They've overcome a lot. And there was a 502 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: point in late September early October where people were ready 503 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: for Rector to be sent into Nowheresville and he's still 504 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: around five and three since Week three. That Miami loss, 505 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 1: I think really is going to haunt them most likely. No, 506 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: No West of Us though, and he had to work 507 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: on West of this last year that was New Less. 508 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: There's West of Us of course, you know, the annual 509 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: Saturday Bengals playoff loss. My one of my highlights of 510 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: last football season was seeing all of the tweets from 511 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: people in New Zealand and Denmark and Ireland celebrating West 512 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: of Us along with and just last name you and 513 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: I were talking about, you know, maybe we could all 514 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: have the day off and we could have a real 515 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: fun party together to celebrate alas we can still all 516 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: four of us? Yeah right, how are all four of 517 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: usoff Saturday? Rendering ourselves completely non essential to the operation. 518 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: And then they're like, yeah, don't bother us Sunday or 519 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: the next week after that. Either. Nobody said it was listic. 520 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: It was just something that was being kicked around training 521 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: on my prey exactly. Everybody. Welcome to the Around the 522 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: NFL podcast. This is Nick Shook alongside Jeremy Bergmann. All right, 523 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: let's move on and check out another AFC East team 524 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: Daniel back to throw, Cure comes the blitz, It gets 525 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: it off Courter, the catch, Parker take away. What an 526 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: unbelievable throw and catch? Why not Parker? Why believe it? 527 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: What a comeback. The Dolphins were held scoreless for the 528 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: first fifty six minutes of game time on Sunday and 529 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: face the double digit deficit late in the fourth quarter, 530 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: but back to back Ryan Tannehill led touchdown drives. Is 531 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: that onions I smell? There are those onions? I don't know. 532 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: Are they get allen our show you a little bit 533 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: of all grown, huge onions capped with a game winning 534 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: connection to Davante Parker, lifted Miami to a fourteen ten win. 535 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: That's spoiled. Jared Goffs NFL debut. Mark Sessler talking to you, buddy. 536 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: The Dolphins have now won five straight, uh, and they 537 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: start to get good at this dramatic winds stuff. I 538 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: didn't find this game dramatic on any level. There was 539 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: a point here where Miami and yes they punched in 540 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: the touchdown to win it, that it looked like it 541 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: was gonna potentially go into overtime, which I think to 542 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: any viewer would have been a horror. I mean, it 543 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: was a certainly for sure, well it was. It was 544 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: a rough game to watch. There was a period late 545 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: in the you know, second half where Ryan Tannehill was 546 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: averaging about two yards per attempt and Jared Goff, for 547 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: all the hype around his first start, did not look 548 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: much different to me than case Keenum in terms of 549 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: the pure result. I think he's a better use some 550 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: natural gifts that case Keenum maybe does not have. But 551 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: he looked like a complete rookie to me, and it's 552 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: a lot to do with the offense around him. I 553 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: give the credit to the Dolphins or six and four 554 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: was an ugly when you gotta get some of these 555 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: to stay alive. They're not the way the Dolphins are built. 556 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: They're not going to look pretty every week, There's no 557 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: way around it. Defense drives to start the game with 558 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: no points and then two touchdowns in the last four 559 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: minutes as wild right, They at one point had I 560 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: think it was eight punts and a turnover, and then 561 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: they suddenly heat it up. They have The Rams defense 562 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: is legitimate. I mean, it is a it is an 563 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: excellent defense, and it's it doesn't really seem to matter 564 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: who they play. It's not a matchup defense. They've shut 565 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: down four teams in a row. It's just that their offense. 566 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: You've got to develop something on that side of the ball. 567 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: Did you get any sense for whether the Rams coaches 568 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: were punished for having too conservative of a game plan 569 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: or play calling, or was Jared Goff just unwilling to 570 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: throw it downfield? Well, I mean I think a little 571 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: bit of a mixture. They certainly it was not an 572 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: aggressive game plan as most Rams game plans or not. 573 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: But he did not complete and not complete a pass 574 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: that went twenty yards through the air. It was all. 575 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: It wasn't checkdowns. It was just I'm gonna look for 576 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: my tight end on a crossing pattern. I'm gonna look 577 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: for people in the flats. I get it. That's what 578 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: he was dealing with against the Dolphins only had one second. 579 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: I thought that Goff did not look uh frightened out there. 580 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: He looked calm. He looked to be in command to 581 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: some degree. But it's just you're putting them into a 582 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: bad position in a bad off. I thought he looked 583 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: a little spooked after the second Dolphins touchdown, when he 584 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: had thirty seconds they actually took after the kickoff returned 585 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: nice run back to about the forty and uh they 586 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: had one time out in twenty nine seconds and this 587 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: was to me total Jeff Fisher's rams. You have that 588 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: time out, which is gold in this scenario to have 589 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: any chance here to get down the field. The first 590 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: play calls a seven yard slant. I don't know if 591 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: it was the play call that, but that's how the 592 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: play ended. They used up like you have ten seconds 593 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: of the clock and their last time at Essentially, I'm 594 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: probably being a little too gentle on him because it 595 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: was his first start. I mean it was it was unimpressive. 596 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: He he had sixty four yards passing in the first half, 597 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: got a little bit rhythm late, but finished with a 598 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty four four point three per attend. Anyone 599 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: else that did that we would look at and say 600 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: that's sub NFL level, the lowest passing output since the 601 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: season opened. It was also it was also raining. There's 602 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: a guy on the other side of the struggling that 603 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: much too. You have to give it off in some credit. 604 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they lose their left tackle, Brandon now Abt, 605 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: they lose Laramie Tunsil, and they lost Pouncy right before 606 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: the this gave me even started. So that's your three 607 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: best offensive lineman, entire side of your offensive line. You 608 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: have to face the Rams. It's not a surprise they 609 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: struggle on offense, and yet they're they're finding ways to 610 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: win these games. I still think the Dolphins are gonna 611 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: come back down to Earth very soon. Bill Barnwell tweeted 612 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: out that they've won their last four games. During this 613 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: five game winning streaked by a combined eighteen points. So 614 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's not like they're blowing anybody way. They're 615 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: winning a lot of close games. And I thought that 616 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: this was just last week. I was saying, the way 617 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: that the Rams get to seven and nine, eight and 618 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: eight every year is they win these type of sewer games. 619 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Jeff Fisher got out sleddged here, uh seven 620 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: and nine, there was his own type of game that. Yeah, 621 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: there was a period. There was a moment in this 622 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: game where you know, they were before the first half ended, 623 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: they were trying to get the ball back and the 624 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: Dolphin they called two time outs where the Dolphins couldn't 625 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: move the ball to get you know, it had precious 626 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: seconds to have maybe a last second throw down field 627 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: by golf. They get the ball back with limited amount 628 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: of time and they kneel on it. Why did you 629 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: call two timeouts? Why did you extend this contest for 630 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: us to deal with as viewers and then you kneel 631 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: the ball. It just it's there were a number of 632 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: tactical errors by Jeff Fisher in this game that I 633 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: think we're bizarre. They decided to go for a field 634 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: goal deep in in territory on fourth down in Miami, 635 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: and they missed the field goal in the in late 636 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. I mean, you've got this team, 637 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: why not be aggressive? Why not give yourself a chance 638 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: to win. We're watching coaches do that all over the league, 639 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: and it's just I'm not doing the rams again all season. 640 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: Done with it? Fisher, Well, on this day alone, someone 641 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: managed it, and that makes this game noteworthy for that alone. 642 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: Dolphins get the forty niners next week. They're gonna be 643 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 1: seven and four and the a f C playoff race. 644 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: Sure they are. They're in Miami. They're gonna win that game. Yes, 645 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: all right, let's uh a f C South showdown. Andrew 646 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: takes the snap, sets up, looks, looks, throws in the 647 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: back of the end zone. It is a touchdown for 648 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: t Y Hilton. T Y stole a ball out of 649 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: the defender's hands. Touchdown, twenty to nothing Colts. What a 650 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: play by t Y Hilton. Bob Lamy w F and 651 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: I big call. Bob liked it, joined it Andrew Leux 652 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: touchdown past the t Y Hilton was part of a 653 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: huge start for the Colts, who jumped out to a 654 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: big early lead, then staved off the Titans come back 655 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: to tempt attempt in win at Lucas Oil Stadium. Speaking 656 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: streaks ending, my locking up streak ended here. I counted 657 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: on the Titans here. They can't can't predict, can't predict football. 658 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: They're little statement game last week. They didn't respond well 659 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: to that. They were getting woodshedded. In the first half 660 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: of this game. Colts went up twenty one to nothing 661 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,479 Speaker 1: and with four minutes left in the second quarter had 662 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: a two thirty four to seventy seven edge in total yards. 663 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: Titans were abysmal on offense to that point, and really 664 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: we're kind of non existed on defense. Luck deserved a 665 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: better stat line. Duane Allen had a brutal drop in 666 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: the red zone that led to a lad to Adam 667 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: Ventin Terry's first miss in forty five field goal attempts, 668 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: and then t Y Hilton had a bad drop on 669 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: a deep ball in the red zone two that that 670 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: was a big issue and that allowed Tennessee to come 671 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: back in the game. Those two drops, well, this is 672 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: a huge result for the a f C South picture. 673 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: We we we were all excited about the Titans. I 674 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: think we all thought they were gonna win this week, 675 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: and now they've been swept by the Colts. So the 676 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: and twice in four weeks, two or five weeks, uh, 677 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 1: not too far apart. The Colts defense has been getting 678 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: a little bit better all year. I mean they were 679 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: they were able to slow down this Tennessee offense, which 680 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: we think is great. They're healthier than they've been all year, 681 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: and there were several good signs day. They held DeMarco 682 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: Murray to three point three yards per carry and with 683 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: the game on the line, Clayton Gathers stopped DeMarco Murray 684 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: on a fourth down, fourth and short behind that offensive line. 685 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: They also have five sacks against Mariota, which is their 686 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: highest sack total of the year, and they're tackling is 687 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: much better. So the Colts now essentially have a game 688 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: and a half lead on Tennessee in this division because 689 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: they have the tiebreaker and there's not gonna be a 690 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: wild card team coming out of this division. So yeah, 691 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: like you said, Greg, this was a huge, huge development. Today. 692 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: They've played their best games lately. I mean the Colts 693 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: that there were the result against the Packers. I know 694 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: the Packers aren't good. You know, if you're a Colts fan, 695 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: there are best chance we need to save America from 696 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: Brock forget West of this. The Texans being an unwatchable 697 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: mess on the first UH Saturday of the playoffs could 698 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: be a new tradition if this keeps up. So let's 699 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: go Colts. We're back in you now. I mean they 700 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: are today, and then two weeks from now we'll be 701 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: talking about a different team in the NFC South because 702 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: this is a bad division that's to produce a team 703 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 1: that goes to the playoffs and gets utterly slaughtered by somebody. 704 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't think the Cults are terrible, well they're not, 705 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: not see they're terrible, But it's like one of these 706 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: teams they haven't a squeeze out an a f C 707 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: South title and hang banner and it means nothing. They 708 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: have pieces. I mean, they have luck playing at a 709 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: high level. They have t Y Hilton, I think it's 710 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: got to be his best season of his career. Are 711 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: certainly right there with a couple of years ago. Montcrief 712 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: is starting to look like himself again. They do have pieces. 713 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: Jack Doyle plays well. When luck gets productive, when Lux 714 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: gets protected, their offense can score with anybody excepts or 715 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: except Atlanta. Really I'm disappointed, I I really I thought 716 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: that the Titans, that the score was reversed, we would 717 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: all be feeling great about see and we all like 718 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: this and like, this is a team that a week 719 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: ago was the most fun team to watch, and now 720 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: they're cast aside and they're gone again. It's just, I mean, 721 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: that's the NFL, the soft underbelly of the of the 722 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: roster of teams, Like everyone can get beat pretty handily 723 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: on every a given week. And Tennessee reminded that, uh 724 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: reminded us of that today. Let's move on, man. He 725 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: takes the shotguns, snap bears, bring pressure, throws it over 726 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: the middle, white opened Shepherd, touchdown Giants fifteen yards, banning 727 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: the Shepherd, and the Giants are in front. Oh yeah, 728 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: that's my boy, Bob Papa a w f A and 729 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd's touchdown hook up with Eli Manning put the 730 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: Giants up for good. On Sundays, Big Blue overcame a 731 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: slow start to beat the Bears sixteen at the meadow 732 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: Lands Um. The Giants have won five straight for the 733 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: first time since their two thousand seven Super Bowl season. Mr. Sessler, 734 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: the Giants are doing something in twenty sixteen they could 735 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: not do last year. They're closing out teams they are 736 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: I think it has a lot to do with their defense. 737 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: You know, Cutler, Jay Cutler and the Bears were driving 738 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: for a potential game winning touchdown here and they got 739 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 1: a big sack on him and then he landing. Collins 740 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: hit fourth straight game with an interception. This is a 741 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: huge one that that essentially sealed the win. And you know, 742 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: the New York Giants are an imperfect team, there's no 743 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: question about it. But this is the second week in 744 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: a row where what I thought was their fatal flaw 745 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: was their ground game showed up today. It wasn't from 746 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: wire to wire, but it showed up in moments and 747 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: that You're right, they overcame the first half that a 748 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: Giants team from a different year wouldn't have had the 749 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: defense to stay in it, and they climbed back in 750 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: today and got it done. It was not a pretty win, 751 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: and the Giants don't seem to have a lot of 752 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 1: pretty victories in general. They've won every game by one score. 753 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: Their biggest margin of victory was the London game, which was, 754 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, basically an interception return and you win by 755 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Tom Coughlin's team lost this game countless times, 756 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: as any Giants fan will tell you. So I really 757 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: despite the fact that they beat and that last drive 758 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: by Jay Cutler, I try to get Greg excited at 759 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: one point downstairs, like, oh, he's driving down the field. 760 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: But that collapsed in a big way once he got 761 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: past the field. I flip it over a fumble interception plays. 762 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're just torturing me. He hit a couple 763 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: of good fats before that. But I thought that was 764 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: a big win for the Giants because they was these 765 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: games historically and they took care of It was also 766 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: the game that got the very wacky P A T 767 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: situation from today. It will go our whole lifetime and 768 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: maybe not see that happen again, because the last time 769 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 1: it happened was thirty something years ago with eleven miss pets. 770 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: But Robbie Gould both kickers missed a pet. Then Robbie 771 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: Gould in this game, who they former bear against his 772 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 1: old team. You think he'd know how to kick and 773 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: practice against this kind of a team. Mrs two P 774 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: A T S. What is going on with these people? 775 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: I think I think Blair Walsh's home in his house 776 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: with like eighteen voodoo dolls of of of NFL kickers 777 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: sticking pins and feet because today's felt had felt supernatural. 778 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: Do you believe huh do you believe in voodoo? Not particularly? No, 779 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: do you believe in the Giants seven and three? Well, listen, 780 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean in the nf there seven three and they've 781 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: got a chance to In a sense, you could say 782 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: that all their own destiny for a playoff spot because 783 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: they play the rest of the NFC East down the stretch. 784 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: All these nfc S teams do, and a win on 785 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys they do, and you're winning. I don't have 786 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: a problem with with teams winning these sort of rough 787 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 1: and tumble, ugly games because every team is doing it. 788 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: There aren't a lot of teams we can believe in. 789 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: There's maybe two in the NFC and maybe two in 790 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: the n f C. I think one in the a 791 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,240 Speaker 1: f C. They're a different team now, they're more balanced. 792 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: They have fourteen sacks over the last five games after 793 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: averaging less than one per game early in the season. 794 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul is coming on it half big, big 795 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 1: day for the under the radar sandwich prop JPP versus 796 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: Mario Williams where a committee of people vote who had 797 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: a better season. JP. You know, people have been waiting 798 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: around for that since the minute came. You know, then 799 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: you came up with that. People just waiting for Sean 800 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: Jennings a hundred yards from scrimmage and back to back 801 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: games after they were averaging about forty yards from the 802 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: running backs for a while, and Landon Collins. I'm ready 803 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: to put them on the Opera A team now. I 804 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: think he deserves it. And your boy Victor Cruz had 805 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: a huge catch today that'll buy him another three years 806 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: worth of media coverage in New York. We got it's true. 807 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: It's the ultimate Annoy West stat line. One catch for 808 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: forty eight yards on two targets. Because that you're right, 809 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: that'll that'll make all the highlight roll wheels. Everyone's thinking 810 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: he's having a great year. Defense leaves him alone because 811 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: most players got the right It's just it's personal. It's 812 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: gotten personal at this point. The Bears, by the way, 813 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: lost Zach Miller, who is probably their best patch pass catcher, 814 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: maybe for the rest of the season. Well, our son 815 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 1: Jeffrey suspended. I'm just saying that this team is if 816 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 1: they were even gonna be respectable, they're losing any chance. 817 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: He actually had a really good game before he went 818 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: out to touchdown sixty one yards and here he was 819 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: really all they had. They're gonna have probably the third 820 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: overall pick in the draft next year. Who's more boring 821 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: to watch? Right now? The Bears are forty Oh, I 822 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: would go forty Niners. I would go the Bears are 823 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: more boring. You still got Kaeprit Kapert explained a little better. 824 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: That's what's called you don't sign me up for them. 825 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: Speaking of Colin Kaepernick, Brady to throw steps up in 826 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: the pocket, rolls to his right. He's hit as he throws. 827 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: It's complete to Mitchell hit to the open field. Outside 828 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: of the twenty fifteen ten touchdown Patriots for the second 829 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: time this half. Tom Brady was hit as he let 830 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: it fly. It's a fifty six yard touchdown pass and 831 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: the Patriots are on top twenty six to ten. Tom 832 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 1: McCarthy Westwood won sports tom Brady through four touchdown passes, 833 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: including that long catching run hook up with Malcolm Mitchell. 834 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: Patriots cruised what a life to a thirty to seventeen 835 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: win over the forty Niners, who aren't even a real team. 836 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: Uh and they've lost nine straight games. Greg San Francisco 837 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: actually entered the fourth quarter down three points, but the 838 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: charade ended. They're not even charade. Sharad tom Brady we've 839 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 1: been talking about on this podcast, has made a living 840 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: this year improvising plays with his feet, and that's what 841 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: this game was all about, was his footwork, getting out 842 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: of the way of pressure, delivering whall hit. Almost to 843 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: the point where it's concerning that, you know, this is 844 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: not a way for a Patriots offense to really, you know, 845 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: make their living. Tom Brady kind of improvising, making people miss, 846 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: but it worked for today. I don't feel like I 847 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 1: learned anything about the Patriots today. The same concerns I 848 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: had going into the day. I still have leaving them, 849 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: but they're certainly good enough to drop. How could we 850 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: lock this up way? Jeff Triplett. Oh, he didn't kick 851 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: anyone out. No, he didn't kick anyone out, but he did. 852 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: You know I was thinking of you. He did give 853 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: a penalty to Chip Kelly for leaving the sideline multiple times, 854 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: which is something only an over officious jerk would do. 855 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: Who gives that pedal? It certainly and it was an 856 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: out there lock of the week by you. I appreciated it. 857 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: You wait for it. I gave this segment that sincerity 858 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: it deserved. It's a huge hit segment. West. It's about me. 859 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: I invite you to come up with a replacement. I 860 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: demand you to try to beat the lock of the week. 861 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: The lock of the week puts a bounce in my step, 862 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: but not because I take it seriously. Well. And also, 863 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: let's this Tom Brady thing is personal between him and you. 864 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: After you called him out for slight regression, he made 865 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: it a point to show better pocket movement he has. 866 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 1: Then he did a six touchdowns one interception so far. 867 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: You basically beat a JV team today, So I know 868 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: you guys are gonna do your little you know, I 869 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: look against pass rush. This ain't two thousand twelve anymore. 870 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: This is a different San Francisco forty nine. Let's wait 871 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,879 Speaker 1: till so it's not gonna do with pass rush. When 872 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: you go into your you know, go down into your 873 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: little cave and watch your game. You crank up your game. 874 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: Pass next week. Just take a look at the way 875 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: Tom Brady moved this year. He moves better than he 876 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: did five years ago or ten years ago. I get it. 877 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: The jury still out on science. I get it. He's 878 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 1: Ken Stabler and his prime. You guys are locked in 879 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: on this, but market improved. Ken Stabler wishes he was 880 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Listen. The bottom line here is if you 881 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: want to get all excited about beating forty niners, go 882 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: ahead out on the middle of the field a straw man. 883 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 1: Nobody's talking about the forty niners. It's the whole season. 884 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: Get excited. This game didn't make me feel great at all. 885 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: Then again, they were missing Gronk. It's another reminder when 886 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: Gronk's not there, they're not the same team. Because its 887 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: Dronks there, They're not going to have thirteen. It's deffiely true. 888 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: It's It's also another reminder that Dan's got another five 889 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 1: years of watching Tom Brady destroyed. A lot of things 890 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: can change, even this season, gentlemen. That's all I'll say 891 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 1: on that, Marcus. How many wins against over five hundred 892 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: teams with the Patriots? By the way, Oh, is this 893 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: our new strongman? That the Patriots really aren't a good team? 894 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: And now now actual stats and records. That's a strong 895 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: and argument too. I got it. I'm sat off then, Texans. 896 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: I guess that's probably when when the schedule tightens up, 897 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: specifically in January. Let's see how Tommy looks like that 898 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: guy in Titanic. That's like I tried to build a 899 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: nice ship for you, rose as the waters creep up 900 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: around your neckline. I don't I don't remember that scene, 901 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: poignant scene in a hit movie. Anything else about the Oh? 902 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: Can I get the throne of these music one more time? 903 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: By the way, Oh, this is for you. It feels 904 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:33,919 Speaker 1: organic sixteen straight winning seasons for the Patriots, the first 905 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: team to do that since the eight three. Well, but 906 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: Gregg Greg This week, technically, Greg offered a fascinating counterpoint 907 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: to his fandom over text message to us this week, 908 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: reminding us on Saturday, I was in a dark place 909 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: at the moment, all right, well, reminding us that, Hey, guys, 910 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's not always a throne of ease if 911 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: you're greg. Because I'm a big tennis fan in a 912 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: certain some tennis players I like aren't as good as 913 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: they should be. I gotta say, really drove my car 914 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 1: off the road reading that. It isn't insane. Honestly, I 915 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: care more about them as I care more about that 916 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 1: as a fan than the Patriots. Well that's that's I 917 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: might as well read the actual text. Now, No, don't 918 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,359 Speaker 1: even don't even mean this was unsolicited. It just came out. 919 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: That's why I'm embarrassed. It makes you feel any better. Yeah, 920 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: I don't know who that was too. I guess it 921 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: was Mark and I know, yeah, Well, my tennis fandom 922 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: is opposite of thrown at yes endless heartbreak, yes, and 923 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: then you have to back it up well immediately after 924 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 1: what's next? That may be the single most useless text 925 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,959 Speaker 1: I've ever sent area Mitt and Clapper cares more about 926 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 1: tennis than his That was the loudest ull. I don't 927 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: know about the loudest, but that was the best road 928 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: Patriots crowd. It's embarrassing what's happening at the San Francisco 929 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: games that every game now has tons of empty seats 930 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: and has a road crowd as the home team. You know, 931 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,959 Speaker 1: they asked Kaepernick about He's like, you know, I didn't 932 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: really notice, but there's they were chanting Brady throughout the 933 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: entire game. I think Santa Clara standing happened when New 934 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: England went to San Diego. It could be that our 935 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 1: nation is you know, tends to jump on bandwagons. Well, 936 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: and it's ironic that if you go to Gillette, go 937 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: to Gilette Stadium, it's it's like the New England Public Library. 938 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: Well that's people apparently more interested in men's tennis at 939 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: this Copper team. Colin Kaepernick's looking a little better the 940 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 1: last few weeks, and the Patriots pass thresh and this 941 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: in a Landing Roberts in coverage. You never have this 942 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: guy in coverage coverage again. Don't do this, get them 943 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: all excited about Colin Kaepernick or whatever's gonna lead them 944 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: to a two and fourteen record, a little better whatever. 945 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 1: In conference action, Stafford takes the snap, got on the 946 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: end around the epron to the one to the touchstop 947 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,399 Speaker 1: the Troit Lions one. He took it all the way 948 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: down there, and he took it home the Lions as 949 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: Dan Miller of w j R. Eric Ebron's first career 950 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 1: carrie ended with a touchdown as a Lions did just 951 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: enough to beat the Jaguars nineteen at Ford Field. The 952 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: Lions have now trailed on the fourth quarter of all 953 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: ten games they played this season, but they remain in 954 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 1: the thick of the NFC playoff race. Um, you know 955 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: they averaged Listen, guys, listen this that they average zero 956 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 1: points seven yards per attempt on the ground on Sunday 957 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: rushes for fourteen yards, putting way too much Prussian Matthew Stafford, 958 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 1: who um, despite the stat line, isn't gonna jump out 959 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 1: at you made again. Uh, some just beautiful throws in 960 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 1: this game and basically did things by himself. Um. And 961 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: on the other side, Blake Bortles, I mean, he's the 962 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: hardest watch in the league. He doesn't throw the ball 963 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,280 Speaker 1: down field now because he's been burned too many times 964 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 1: and uh cannot complete a pass anything down the field. 965 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: If fifteen yards are further, everything is a check down. 966 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: The accuracy is still an issue. The fact that the 967 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: Jaguars almost stole this game is is wild, but they 968 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: couldn't pull it off, and they that this is why 969 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 1: they should be relegated and be why they're known the 970 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 1: NFL's inland franchise. And the look on Gus Bradley's face, 971 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 1: I mean a tow be Gus Bradley and could go 972 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 1: through the season you're going through right now. But send 973 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: Derrick Marks falls for with two thirty four left in 974 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 1: the game on fourth and to Matthew Stafford attempting to 975 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 1: get the Jaguars to fall off side, come off sides. 976 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 1: Mark's falls sort of veteran player, and Bradley just looked 977 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 1: at him like, bro, you gotta be kidding the game. 978 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,399 Speaker 1: Bradley is known as a positive guy, so you don't 979 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: see that a lot. And Marx is the same guy 980 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,359 Speaker 1: who is a respective guy in that locker room who 981 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: was belly aching last week saying that it was a 982 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,760 Speaker 1: slap in the face that his his snaps had been decreased. 983 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: And this is a guy that led the team and 984 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,800 Speaker 1: sacks a couple of years ago. Um it was, you know, 985 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it tells the story of what the Jaguars 986 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: are about The Lions would get another first down after that, 987 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: kick a field goal to essentially ice the game. Chew 988 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,879 Speaker 1: up most of the clocks. So the Lions didn't play 989 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 1: great in this game. Uh, but again they're they're they've 990 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,880 Speaker 1: been good at at pulling these games out, and they 991 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 1: did it again. Blake Bortles finished with a seventy three 992 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 1: point eight passer rating against the defense that turns its 993 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 1: typical opponent into Tom Brady. The Lions have an historically 994 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 1: bad past defense this season, allowing a passer rating about 995 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: one ten. To me, if you can't take advantage of 996 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 1: that defense, I don't know what Gus Bradley's trying to 997 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: prove what's left to for this season? That you're sticking 998 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,719 Speaker 1: a broken quarterback out there week after week. Maybe he's 999 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: trying to save his job and he thinks that even 1000 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: a broken Blake Bortles is better than the next guy up. 1001 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: By the way, the Jaguars clinched not having a winning 1002 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 1: season again, uh for the ninth straight year. Well, a 1003 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: lot of people we talk a lot in here about 1004 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: the Browns and the Jets, but the Jaguars fan base, 1005 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 1: and it's probably not a core is large of a 1006 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: fan base is to you should have been around forever. 1007 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: Those guys have been through absolute hell. You want to 1008 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: talk about the charges you got up with the Jaguars 1009 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,879 Speaker 1: right there, because here's the here's why you don't yank 1010 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,359 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles. From an organizational perspective, here's what I would say. Yeah, 1011 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: we could argue and say you put in you, you 1012 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 1: take them out of there. They are in an absolute fix. 1013 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: The best thing that could possibly happen, if there's any 1014 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: redeeming quality, is that he's somehow in their mind, plays 1015 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: better down the stretch and you don't have to completely 1016 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: reorganize the most important position. We've just seen. No, we've 1017 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: seen no evidence of that happened. Best thing that could happen. 1018 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: The only thing that really matters now is whether you 1019 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: can fix Blake Bortles right. And I don't think you 1020 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: can do that by playing him well. I just would. 1021 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: I ain't gn be interesting to pull thirty two head 1022 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: coaches to see how they would handle the situation, because 1023 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: it's extremely tricky. That would be interesting. Lyons fans have 1024 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: had it rough too, and they got to be having 1025 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: a fun time with this team, which they probably feel 1026 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: like the rug is gonna get pulled out from under 1027 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 1: them at some point because all these close wins. But 1028 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 1: it's been exciting. That Raphael Busch move that he made 1029 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 1: on the interception, uh was one of the moves and 1030 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 1: the plays of the year. I mean his quickness. He 1031 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,800 Speaker 1: looked like Reggie Bush in his prime. It was like, 1032 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 1: you do not you do not see a cornerback with 1033 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: movement like that. They have Eric Ebron who has really 1034 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: turned into a big time players, having good season on 1035 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: pace for almost eight hundred yards this year, which would 1036 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: shatter his career high. Alliance fan, you take it anyway 1037 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: you can. This season is just fine. And when they 1038 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 1: get a mir Abdullah back what he looks like he 1039 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: could practice at some point here. They're hoping over the 1040 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: next three weeks to get in. But I mean they 1041 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 1: need they need some help here, all right. And now 1042 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 1: actual dialogue from a commercial advertising a real CBS television 1043 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: what's harder than preventing a nuclear disaster? Conventing a nukele 1044 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 1: your disaster? Thank you for coming with you? I'm sorry? 1045 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: What or intercompetence action wants to play? Look, it's the 1046 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: right clock ball touch stop Chappa Berry buccaneer scoring touchdown 1047 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: for the first time of the game, and Alan Cross 1048 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 1: has his first career touchdown. Graham, how about that the 1049 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: Buccaneers turned that interception return by Chris Trot into a touchdown. 1050 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,880 Speaker 1: Gene Decker off w f U s Bucks quarterback Jamis 1051 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,359 Speaker 1: Winston through for thirty one yards and hit tightning down 1052 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,440 Speaker 1: Cross very key insurance touchdown in the fourth quarter on 1053 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 1: the way to a nineteen seventeen upset win over the 1054 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 1: Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium. Go figure Greg. The Chiefs had 1055 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 1: won seventeen of their last nineteen games in the regular 1056 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 1: season before today. Have they let the Bucks snipe them? Well? 1057 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 1: Their offensive struggles from the last few weeks continue, and 1058 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 1: and more importantly, Jamis Winston was the It was easily 1059 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: the best quarterback on the field. And the Bucks offense 1060 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: did something I didn't think they had it in them 1061 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 1: to do, which is they really dominated this game. They 1062 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 1: their first six drives of the game went for over 1063 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,920 Speaker 1: fifty yards, all six of them. They only had eight 1064 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 1: drives in this game, which is about as low as 1065 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,480 Speaker 1: you can ever have, and they still had four hundred 1066 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,839 Speaker 1: and forty two yards. They kept converting on third down 1067 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,319 Speaker 1: like third and five, third and eight, third and three. 1068 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston I think was twelve or fourteen on third 1069 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 1: down for a hundred and thirty three yards, and he 1070 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 1: made a really good defense that was missing some players. 1071 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Marcus Peters wasn't out there. De Ford got 1072 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 1: hurt during the game. That definitely hurt them. But I 1073 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,239 Speaker 1: didn't think the Bucks had this sort of complete game 1074 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: in them where they looked like the better team in 1075 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 1: Kansas City. And credit to them, they're two best games 1076 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 1: of the season back to back weeks against the Bears. 1077 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: Are you more interested in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or 1078 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots at this point? The Bucks aren't 1079 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 1: even my second favorite team. They're not even in the 1080 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: top three right now, is question. Marcus hinting at there's 1081 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 1: a little bouncing Gregg's step on the Bucks play well 1082 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: all going back to the scientists, Holy War, Marcus Mariotta. 1083 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 1: We're both enjoying Jamis and Mariotta playing well over the 1084 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 1: last eight weeks. Winston was speaking on behalf of West Right. 1085 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 1: You know you have nothing at Olive Branch. Yeah, you 1086 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 1: have nothing against Winston. You wrote a very complimentary piece 1087 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 1: this offseason where you said they're both great. It's a 1088 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 1: nice little quarterback. Now he's just trying that is not 1089 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 1: that is. Those are fighting words. When did Chris Conti 1090 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,719 Speaker 1: turn into this turnover machine? What's going on with his November? Yeah, 1091 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 1: his interception of Alex Smith in the red zone was 1092 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,320 Speaker 1: the biggest play of the game. Alex Smith made that 1093 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 1: big error that you kind of just don't expect Alex 1094 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 1: Smith to make, and that was because the Bucks had 1095 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: wasted a lot of their drives that they had a 1096 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: fumble at the end of one of them, and they 1097 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: kicked field goals I think were times when they were 1098 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:02,840 Speaker 1: in the red zone. So this game was closer than 1099 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 1: those than it should have been. This Kennesse who lose 1100 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: this game and Marcus Peters is playing there without Jeremy Macklin. 1101 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,839 Speaker 1: Marcus Peters, like Greg said, DeFord for half the game. 1102 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 1: Jamal Charles, you're talking about what six of their three 1103 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 1: or their of their top six players, they didn't play. 1104 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: They haven't played well in a little while. They were 1105 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: very lucky to beat the Panthers. Uh when in Carolina 1106 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 1: that was a flukey game. Uh. The Nick Foles versus 1107 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: the Jaguars game, you know, I know Nick Foles a 1108 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback, but you know, they haven't really looked like 1109 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 1: the Chiefs team that we that we think could do 1110 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 1: some damage. And in about a month, Spencer wears three 1111 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 1: lease productive yards from scrimmage games have been the three 1112 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 1: since he came back from his concussion. I find it 1113 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 1: fascinating that someone correctly predicted this upset on Twitter on Saturday, 1114 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: not not soon after Greg sent his wild tennis text. 1115 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 1: Were you motivated by it? Yeah? I mean I was like, 1116 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 1: let's get let's get back to brass tacks and start talking, 1117 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, correctly about the sport that analyt If I 1118 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: could circle back to the Locks of the Week segment, now, 1119 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 1: you did a really nice job. Nailed it picking the 1120 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 1: nine and one Cowboys to win. Uh, it's not an 1121 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 1: upset of the week. It is a lock. I'm taking you. 1122 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: If someone is asking me to lock down an aspect 1123 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 1: of their life, I'm not gonna toy around and pick 1124 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 1: some road team with a five win record. No, I'm 1125 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: gonna lock it. I think it's important though. The Hanks 1126 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,880 Speaker 1: some onions in a big spot. Oh so the lock 1127 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 1: all the week, the lock of the week, And I 1128 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 1: know you're a little salty because you lost your Lock 1129 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 1: of the week. Now you're re engineering what the segment is. 1130 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 1: It's every instant moving target where it's actually disguised as 1131 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 1: the upset of the week. Are you a sports fan? 1132 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of a lock of the week 1133 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: type segment? It's us. I have the one that some 1134 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 1: people are hung up on. And then this guy says, no, no, no, no, 1135 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 1: this is what's gonna happen. That's your POV. That is 1136 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 1: your POV. That's what it is. That is what your 1137 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 1: po V says. It is the onion. Hanger of the 1138 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 1: week would make more sense than Lock of the Week. 1139 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 1: I agree, and I offered that on Saturday by predicting 1140 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 1: the Bucks to win. If I gave you both, I 1141 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 1: gave you a lock and upset, and you're still asking 1142 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 1: for more. Here's the problem. You're not good. Did you 1143 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 1: still asking for more? Did you pick the Bucks in 1144 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 1: our pa You have a little bit of a different 1145 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 1: tone on the first segment, Then do something a little 1146 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 1: bit different with your upset. Are you a sports fan? 1147 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 1: By the way, please, no one cares about a Saturday tweet. 1148 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 1: You want to bring it to the show. Biggest NFL 1149 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 1: podcast in the Nation. You bring it here, I did 1150 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 1: bring it here. I got it right Saturday. Well, by 1151 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 1: the way, who was down in the news from telling 1152 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 1: us all the things they predicted correctly and none of 1153 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: them are none of them are filed away and writing 1154 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 1: or anywhere else. Well, it's let's you want to get 1155 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 1: down to it. Let's get down to it. I'm sorry. 1156 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 1: You did a great job, but a lot of shadow 1157 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 1: predictions suddenly coming and going on Sunday. You did excellent. 1158 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 1: Look big. How did Doug Martin look? Fantasy minds might 1159 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 1: want to know better than his numbers. He was hit 1160 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 1: in the backfield so many times, he broke more tackles. 1161 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 1: I thought he looked pretty good. A lot of yards 1162 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,880 Speaker 1: after kind of their offensive line in the running game 1163 00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,280 Speaker 1: was a mess. I want to point out this Chief's 1164 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: team is not a lot here for the playoffs. This 1165 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 1: this game not in the West, This game could really 1166 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 1: haunt them because it's one you counted on. Now you're 1167 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: going at Denver at Atlanta the next two weeks, versus Raiders, 1168 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 1: versus Titans, versus Broncos at Chargers. That is a really 1169 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: that's as tough of ending slate as any team has. 1170 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 1: You can't blow games like this at home against Tampa. 1171 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Trying to start thinking differently about the Chiefs, then that's 1172 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 1: a pretty pretty hard scale. I think they're good enough 1173 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 1: if they get their act together and people back on 1174 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 1: the field, that they can win a lot of those 1175 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 1: games and get to you know, ten wins. But if 1176 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: they're still this banged up forward and Peters and you 1177 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 1: know that, well, they can go make a potentially three 1178 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 1: and three. But again it comes back to the question of, like, 1179 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 1: come on, four or five of these a f C 1180 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 1: playoff teams, how much do you really believe in them? 1181 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Let's uh go back to an a f C matchup 1182 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 1: by by inner conference talk. That's how you get into 1183 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 1: something else. They bring the extra guy. Look out who's 1184 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 1: in the end zone? Big changed up the Steelers. I 1185 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 1: think that followed out it. Prits Folks says Prits fur 1186 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:14,440 Speaker 1: The Ryan Harris defensive score took any remaining uncertainty out 1187 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 1: of the equation. On Sunday in Cleveland, as the Steelers 1188 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 1: ended a four game losing streak with the nine win 1189 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 1: over the Cleveland Browns. That was Bill hill Grove of 1190 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:28,640 Speaker 1: w dv OH Billy Billy Mark. The Browns are now 1191 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 1: owing eleven and their offensive line continues to be a 1192 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:36,320 Speaker 1: major issue. Yeah, it's I mean, it's a theme that's 1193 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,040 Speaker 1: um been a terrible one for Brown's quarterbacks. It was 1194 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 1: another game where we saw Cody Kessler, you know, eight 1195 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 1: sacks by the Steelers and and punishing hits a team 1196 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 1: that was among the worst in the league at sacking 1197 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback the Steelers. Yeah, and I think that was 1198 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 1: something we brought up on Thursday. But the counterpoint is 1199 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 1: you're playing Cleveland, and Cleveland, you know you it's not 1200 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 1: always they would discover a pass Russian. It's not. It's 1201 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 1: some of these are on the quarterback too, if you're 1202 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 1: Josh McCown and you're holding the ball too long, or 1203 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 1: the same with Cody Kessler. But eight sacks and s 1204 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 1: eight sacks when you get down to a Kessler was 1205 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 1: knocked out with a concussion, McCown came in and he 1206 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,440 Speaker 1: does what McCown does. He organized a touchdown drive, then 1207 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 1: had a horrible strip sack insulted in a Steelers touch Well, 1208 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 1: it's one of the few things that looked organized for 1209 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 1: the Browns. I mean, the floor has truly fallen out 1210 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 1: and it was interesting to watch. I feel like Pittsburgh 1211 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,440 Speaker 1: approached this almost the way that you would a preseason 1212 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 1: game where you don't want to put anything on film. 1213 01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 1: They seem to use about one tenth of their playbook. 1214 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not even it's not even being you know, salty, 1215 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 1: but I honestly this is the It was too straight. 1216 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 1: Sixteen play drives that eight about nineteen minutes off the clock. 1217 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 1: They both resulted in field goals, so it looked closer 1218 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 1: than it was. But you could tell right away that 1219 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 1: all they Cleveland cannot tackle anyone outside of Jamie Collins 1220 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 1: and Levian Bell had about a hundred combined total yards 1221 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 1: in the first ten to minutes of this game, and 1222 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,280 Speaker 1: you just knew it was over. And in Cleveland hung 1223 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 1: around to some degree later only because Pittsburgh really they 1224 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 1: didn't take their foot off the gas. They just seemed 1225 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 1: to know what they needed to do to get out 1226 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 1: here with you're a Steelers and the weather was a 1227 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 1: great but if you're a Steelers then and I saw 1228 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 1: Damas Check on Twitter not happy about this three total 1229 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,400 Speaker 1: yards against the winless team that you would think that 1230 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,040 Speaker 1: they would be able to do a little bit more. 1231 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: But um, maybe they like Mark You're saying they were 1232 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 1: that conservative, knowing that the only way they could lose 1233 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,480 Speaker 1: this game was by being reckles. Well, the only other 1234 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,840 Speaker 1: option we have is to say Cleveland's defense clamped down. 1235 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 1: And that's not the impression this game gives you if 1236 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 1: you go watch it. I could see why Damnaschek, who 1237 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 1: also was spinning this narrative to my dismay all week 1238 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,440 Speaker 1: about how this was some sort of a trap game 1239 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,760 Speaker 1: for the Steelers, Well, it wasn't. They were gonna win. 1240 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't the prettiest win. But the Steelers are five 1241 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 1: and five. They don't have that's they are not last 1242 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 1: year's high powered team or the team from the year before. 1243 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 1: Reading your recap, it made me think the Steelers treated 1244 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 1: them not just as a little brother, but as a 1245 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 1: little brother who's more interested in a dungeons and Dragons 1246 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 1: and football. I really don't think that they wanted to 1247 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 1: expose much of a game plan, and they did not 1248 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 1: need to. Well, what one of the wildest stats I've 1249 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 1: ever seen is that Ben Roethlisberger is now tied or 1250 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 1: he has the most wins of any quarterback in Cleveland stadium. 1251 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,960 Speaker 1: But well, number one, it's it's it's not crazy when 1252 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 1: you think about it. Cleveland's had what twenties something is starting, 1253 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 1: but they get to play eight a year. There I understand, 1254 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,360 Speaker 1: I mean get it. You don't even have a quarterback. 1255 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 1: You don't even have a quarterback that started three seasons 1256 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 1: in a row in Cleveland, and the Steelers have dominated 1257 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 1: the Browns from wire to wire. It isn't that crazy. 1258 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 1: If you start to break it down down quarterbacks, A 1259 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 1: depressing stat is an absolutely depressed exactly the kind of 1260 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,439 Speaker 1: thing I was talking about on Thursday when I said 1261 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,520 Speaker 1: at N sixteen season wouldn't even be close to the 1262 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 1: biggest black mark. That is far more embarrassing. That's stat 1263 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,640 Speaker 1: I would say, Ohen sixteen is in the cards, and 1264 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna be remembered. That's the thing that every pregame 1265 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 1: show will hit on forever. That's perhaps true that the 1266 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,480 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger that is worse, but OHN sixteen is just like 1267 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 1: a little ribbon that gets plucked on your scarlet letter. 1268 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 1: Totally agree, and you just get stuck with you forever. Mark. 1269 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 1: I want your thoughts on Steelers legend and all around 1270 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 1: good guy. James Harrison breaking the Steelers all time sack 1271 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 1: record in Cleveland. Well, I called him in the recap 1272 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,920 Speaker 1: ageless because I you talk about Dan wondering, you know, 1273 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,840 Speaker 1: in the back of his mind, will Tom Brady played 1274 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,800 Speaker 1: deep into the twenties. I feel like James Harrison. I 1275 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: don't know what age he'll play too, but if it 1276 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 1: were fifty three, I wouldn't be surprised. I'm not quarterback. Yeah, 1277 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 1: you cut him open and there's just machine parts in there, 1278 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 1: and you know that's Well, he's sneaky, bit on your 1279 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,600 Speaker 1: He's been on your radar for a for a long time, 1280 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 1: ever since he was killed. I don't think any a 1281 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,960 Speaker 1: f C North fan that has to do with James Harrison. 1282 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,600 Speaker 1: It finds him to be likable. Here's why I think 1283 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,000 Speaker 1: the Browns are going to owen sixteen. They get worse 1284 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,040 Speaker 1: every week, and it's that off early in the season 1285 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 1: when they were frisky and they were playing teams tight, 1286 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 1: they could run the ball. And you mentioned on our 1287 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 1: Thursday preview marked that they don't even run. They don't 1288 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 1: even try to run the ball because their offensive line 1289 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 1: is such a joke right now. They they their quarterbacks 1290 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 1: and you've said have been hit more than any quarterbacks 1291 01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,240 Speaker 1: in the entire league. So it's crazy because that offensive 1292 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 1: line was good in the past. They got to get 1293 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 1: through a game with one quarterback, and but can we 1294 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,160 Speaker 1: do that first before we do anything else? When was 1295 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 1: the last game they've had with one quarterback? Rulle Pryor, 1296 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 1: who has been the most optimistic guy ever on a 1297 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,919 Speaker 1: win windless team. Every week you hear positive things coming 1298 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,160 Speaker 1: from him about his hopes about the team. He finally 1299 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 1: after the game kind of went off a little bit, 1300 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 1: I want to say went off, but his frustrations boiled over. 1301 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 1: He called a bull crap that the offensive line cannot 1302 01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,520 Speaker 1: protect these quarterbacks and he hates that. Maybe it's the 1303 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 1: former quarterback in him talking as well, and he's just 1304 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 1: these guys getting killed week after week. As a week, 1305 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 1: another concussion um for Cody Kessler. All right, let's move on, 1306 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 1: which takes us to Sunday Night football. Sunday Night, the 1307 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,880 Speaker 1: Packers had no answer for Kirk Cousins, who threw for 1308 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,920 Speaker 1: three and seventy five yards and three touchdowns as the 1309 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 1: Redskins rolled to a forty two to win over And 1310 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 1: let's let's call it like it is an overmatched Green 1311 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 1: Bay team. Mark Sessler, you told us many times as 1312 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,440 Speaker 1: we watch this game tonight that you were sick of 1313 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,880 Speaker 1: seeing the Packers in the national spotlight. It's starting to 1314 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,240 Speaker 1: look like you're gonna get your wish come January. I 1315 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 1: am tired of seeing them on national television. And what 1316 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm tired of is, no matter what happens to the 1317 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:50,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, dom Caper's exists NonStop to preside over 1318 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,800 Speaker 1: a defense that year after year is you know a 1319 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 1: little bit up and down, and tonight just got torched. 1320 01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 1: And you know, we talked about all the Redskins exciting 1321 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,680 Speaker 1: to watch. They were tonight's day. This offense is exciting 1322 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 1: to Watchins was unbelievable in this game of Chris Wesley. 1323 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,280 Speaker 1: He was as well as he was throwing, and he 1324 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,960 Speaker 1: was throwing really well, dropping dimes. This Packers defense is 1325 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,880 Speaker 1: going through a stretch that is as futile as anything 1326 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,920 Speaker 1: they've done in the last seven decades. And it's hard 1327 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,160 Speaker 1: to blame dom Capers. When you are pulling guys off 1328 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:26,160 Speaker 1: the street, you just don't have bodies in the secondary. 1329 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,840 Speaker 1: I rewatched their game last week against Mariota. They simply 1330 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 1: can't tackle they don't cover and they don't tackle. And 1331 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 1: you saw that again tonight. They're they're the Washington Generals 1332 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 1: of statement games. Now everybody gets a statement game planning, right, 1333 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:46,680 Speaker 1: it's true. We How does that feel? Greg? How do 1334 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,680 Speaker 1: you like it? It doesn't really bother me because I 1335 01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,479 Speaker 1: understand it's kind of like a fun bit within the 1336 01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,040 Speaker 1: scheme of this show, So I don't really get upset. Sure, 1337 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 1: look at your eyes right now, though your point was sabotaged. Uh, 1338 01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 1: you're right west that if you look back, like we 1339 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:04,560 Speaker 1: thought that Falcons win was kind of okay. Now the 1340 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,559 Speaker 1: Falcons they got it. That's a big win for them, 1341 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,800 Speaker 1: a home win over a good NFC team. Then then 1342 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,640 Speaker 1: the Colts beat the Packers. Were like, wow, that's the 1343 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 1: best game the Cults are played in a long time. 1344 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 1: The Titans beat the Packers, that's you know, they're the 1345 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,760 Speaker 1: most exciting offense in the league. Every every team gets 1346 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,960 Speaker 1: a turn against this Packers defense. And it's no flu 1347 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,040 Speaker 1: because this Redskins offense has played great over the last month. 1348 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,080 Speaker 1: This performance have been coming for a while. I have 1349 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,599 Speaker 1: some numbers here, A hundred and fifty three points allowed 1350 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:33,280 Speaker 1: now by the Packers in their last four games that 1351 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:37,639 Speaker 1: averages out folks, the thirty eight point three points per 1352 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,280 Speaker 1: game in those four games, the most in the four 1353 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 1: game spanned for this team, since n NBC tells us 1354 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 1: that was before the last touch on, so I don't 1355 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,240 Speaker 1: even know if that's even the right stat anymore. But 1356 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:48,840 Speaker 1: the only thing that we do know is that it 1357 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,960 Speaker 1: is absolutely dreadful what's going on on that side of 1358 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 1: the ball. And you, Chris, you mentioned it. I'm not 1359 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 1: I don't care at all. I don't care at all anymore. 1360 01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,080 Speaker 1: I mean you should have seen, by the way, the 1361 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,600 Speaker 1: amount of back and forth between Sydney and I on 1362 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:06,599 Speaker 1: our instant messaging agent about how to play this, because 1363 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 1: then right before we started, you went and told Sydney 1364 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,880 Speaker 1: that you wanted to hit Mark. So Sydney reported to me, 1365 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 1: and then we debated whether to do Greg and then 1366 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 1: you or hit you because you thought you'd be safe. 1367 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:20,880 Speaker 1: And then I threw it to Sid and said, what 1368 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,200 Speaker 1: was your thought on it? I just thought we should 1369 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,679 Speaker 1: throw him off the sun a little bit, him feel 1370 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: like you're safe. I didn't think I was safe. I 1371 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 1: understand the bit, and it's it's an enduringly funny bit. 1372 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 1: Keep at it. I mean, people forget that pre Brett 1373 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 1: Farve the Packers and you go the year before Magic 1374 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,360 Speaker 1: Man Don mccowski. That was a trash heap of an 1375 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 1: organization for a long time. And yeah, that was a 1376 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,840 Speaker 1: long time ago. It was a super long time ago. 1377 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,759 Speaker 1: But even even this four game stretch with the points allowed, 1378 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm shocked at none of those teams. They were getting 1379 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 1: absolutely destroyed in the in those in those old seasons. 1380 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 1: They there was I think it was an old YouTube 1381 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,760 Speaker 1: video of uh, there was a squirrel round on the 1382 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,519 Speaker 1: field at lambeau Field a couple of weeks ago. And 1383 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 1: then uh did an end a round post about when 1384 01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,439 Speaker 1: a fan who was so annoyed with the Packers stinking 1385 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 1: all through the eighties brought a turkey into the stadium 1386 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,640 Speaker 1: and let it loose on the field. Uh. It just 1387 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 1: And then you go back and you look at Pro 1388 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,920 Speaker 1: Football Reference to see how bad the Packers were all 1389 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,360 Speaker 1: those years. Oh my god. Yeah, from the time Lombardi 1390 01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 1: left until the time that Reggie White and Brett fav arrived. 1391 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 1: Let anything else, folks on this game. Here's what I think. 1392 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,639 Speaker 1: I think the Redskins have established themselves as the fourth 1393 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,640 Speaker 1: best team in the NFC. I know the Giants have 1394 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 1: a slightly better record by half. The Redskins are six 1395 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,479 Speaker 1: one and one in their last eight games, and they belong. 1396 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,760 Speaker 1: They're going to be in the playoffs. I think they 1397 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:51,240 Speaker 1: their offense travels. I mean, Kirk Cousins is playing really well. 1398 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,719 Speaker 1: I think he played a lot worse than his numbers 1399 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,560 Speaker 1: show over the first four or five weeks, but he 1400 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 1: has been on a roll. And now that he's mixing 1401 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,840 Speaker 1: in the big plays, you got fat rob finishing out 1402 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 1: games like I think this team is is legit and 1403 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,479 Speaker 1: it's not going anywhere whereas the Giants I expect to 1404 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:10,479 Speaker 1: fall off that those throws by Cousins, those deep shots 1405 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,560 Speaker 1: he was taking into the wind, into the wind. We 1406 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,599 Speaker 1: talked about this, I think last week, about how it's 1407 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,680 Speaker 1: working out for him. He's gonna get paid, there is 1408 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,160 Speaker 1: no question right now. I mean, things can change the 1409 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,080 Speaker 1: NFL quickly, but right now, this that move that he made, 1410 01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 1: he's making twenty million this year and he's gonna be 1411 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,559 Speaker 1: in the top you know, six or seven paid quarterbacks 1412 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 1: in the league probably this time next year. And you 1413 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,720 Speaker 1: have to look at what Jake Gruden has done too. 1414 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 1: I think he's someone that personally I kind of slowed 1415 01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,040 Speaker 1: to him. I didn't really take the Jake Gruden things seriously, 1416 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,120 Speaker 1: but honestly, he can coach offense. I mean what they've 1417 01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 1: done over the last two seasons is the whole team 1418 01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:47,960 Speaker 1: has changed. The whole identity of the team has completely 1419 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,680 Speaker 1: been transformed. We were talking before we started though, we 1420 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,160 Speaker 1: were still don't I still don't rule out the Packers 1421 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,679 Speaker 1: at four and six because that division is so bad. 1422 01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,040 Speaker 1: But they have to go to Philadelphia next week, they 1423 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:02,240 Speaker 1: have Houston, they have Seattle coming up to so it's 1424 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,600 Speaker 1: it's a different Packers team this year. I I do. 1425 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,759 Speaker 1: But the article this week, we're all about Aaron Rodgers 1426 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,120 Speaker 1: and what's wrong, and he doesn't talk to his family. 1427 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,960 Speaker 1: Like the defense is they they're the ones who aren't 1428 01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 1: talking to their family. They should I don't know, people 1429 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 1: should check up they're talking to their families. I mean 1430 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,200 Speaker 1: it's Aaron Rodgers played fine last week. I watched that 1431 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 1: Titans game. Aaron Rodgers played pretty well. Aaron Rodgers today, 1432 01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,880 Speaker 1: he played well today, played very well today. So their 1433 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,240 Speaker 1: problems go a lot beyond It's like West pointed out that, 1434 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,639 Speaker 1: I mean, they're there are position groups that are running 1435 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,040 Speaker 1: too the absolute dirt. At this point, there's no bodies 1436 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 1: left and you can't you can't survive that way. I 1437 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,000 Speaker 1: mean depth. That two thousand and ten Packers team to 1438 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,160 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl infamously had so many and nothing 1439 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,120 Speaker 1: and that's not injury related. You're not gonna You're not 1440 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 1: gonna see Aaron Rodgers come out this year and say 1441 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,800 Speaker 1: everybody relaxed because he knows it. Right at the end 1442 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 1: of the game, when um, the tight end Jared Cook fumble, 1443 01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,320 Speaker 1: the game is basically over already. But and you can 1444 01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 1: see Rodgers body language, he was just he's just he 1445 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,480 Speaker 1: can't believe what's happening. What's what's happened? And I'm fascinated 1446 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,080 Speaker 1: now to see, um, what's going to become of of 1447 01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 1: the Packers if they do flame out, totally miss the 1448 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:15,479 Speaker 1: miss the playoffs happens next. A lot of people who 1449 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 1: were incorrect about the way j Gruden handled r G 1450 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,640 Speaker 1: three and Kirk Cousins, Oh, Jay Gruden an apology, everybody's 1451 01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,840 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, uh and I include myself, 1452 01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,519 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of expected him not to 1453 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,599 Speaker 1: make it as a head coach and and it looks 1454 01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:35,559 Speaker 1: like it's working in Washington. Hey. By the way, Mark, 1455 01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:40,000 Speaker 1: if you were trying to prevent a nuclear disaster, what's 1456 01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:44,679 Speaker 1: harder than preventing a nuclear disaster? Conventing a nuclear disaster? 1457 01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:49,360 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming with your mother. Um, I've met 1458 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,519 Speaker 1: your mother, a very nice woman. Do you think she 1459 01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,680 Speaker 1: would help or hinder you if you were trying to 1460 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,280 Speaker 1: prevent a nuclear disaster? You think that you're saying what 1461 01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,680 Speaker 1: she try to stop me from preventing it or her 1462 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,679 Speaker 1: joining the effort, wouldn't take it right? Your task? Your 1463 01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,559 Speaker 1: task was stopping a nuclear disas a scorpion Monday's at 1464 01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:10,759 Speaker 1: nine pm on CBS, you are tasked with, uh, stopping 1465 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,120 Speaker 1: a nuclear attack? Would your mom help her hurt you 1466 01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 1: towards that? She has always given me Um great advice. Uh. 1467 01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:21,759 Speaker 1: That said, I don't feel very capable with or without 1468 01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,879 Speaker 1: a family member attached to it, of stopping a nuclear disaster. 1469 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't even know who to speak to. How would 1470 01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,439 Speaker 1: I even I would be the wrong person to assign 1471 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,640 Speaker 1: that too. I wouldn't want that. Well, I think you 1472 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,880 Speaker 1: gets yeah, that would be true of all of this, 1473 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,040 Speaker 1: But personally I know for me, I think it would 1474 01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,360 Speaker 1: hinder It would hinder it because I would decide to 1475 01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 1: do something, she'd be like, well, you really sure that's 1476 01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,120 Speaker 1: the right The right thing to do to stop the 1477 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 1: nuclear attack would be Debbie. That would be Debbie. I 1478 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,479 Speaker 1: know that your mom listened to It's a lot like broadcast. 1479 01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:53,160 Speaker 1: I was here him again, she does listen. It's a 1480 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,640 Speaker 1: shout out. That's she's not going to enjoy that that 1481 01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,400 Speaker 1: moment of the show. Debros with all listens. Oh yes, 1482 01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,280 Speaker 1: beb Hans has never heard of every show. My mom, Yeah, 1483 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,240 Speaker 1: my wife has never listened. But yeah, west where what 1484 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:07,960 Speaker 1: would happen? I mean, my mom would come in and 1485 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,280 Speaker 1: clean house. She would take she would take the bull 1486 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:16,800 Speaker 1: by the reins or however that forwards. Yeah, day my 1487 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,599 Speaker 1: mom would clean house. Yeah, I mean my mom would 1488 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,639 Speaker 1: probably help. She would help me, I would. I guess 1489 01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,280 Speaker 1: the thing is none of us are able to say 1490 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,799 Speaker 1: who it is that we're clean house? Who what us? Congress? 1491 01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,680 Speaker 1: She walked into the Joint Chiefs of Staffs meetings and 1492 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,080 Speaker 1: would be leading it by the end. I mean again, 1493 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,400 Speaker 1: the question me, why are the Joint chief of staffs 1494 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:40,439 Speaker 1: suggesting that west Mark, Dana Greg They've tried everything else 1495 01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:44,639 Speaker 1: we're like the mcgruber in this situation plot to every 1496 01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,720 Speaker 1: sci fi movie in the history of the world, you 1497 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 1: have to have a little or a lot willing suspension 1498 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:53,880 Speaker 1: of disbelief. Okay, I'm glad we settled all that. We'll 1499 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:57,120 Speaker 1: be back on Tuesday. Uh. This is a different week. 1500 01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,880 Speaker 1: It's Thanksgiving week here in the States. We'll have our 1501 01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:05,120 Speaker 1: regular Tuesday show where we'll also preview Thanksgiving games. Uh, 1502 01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,880 Speaker 1: and then we'll probably be back the next day with 1503 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 1: our second pod the day after. Is that how We're 1504 01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:14,280 Speaker 1: gonna do this preview all of the rest of week twelve, 1505 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,400 Speaker 1: So that'll be out a day early. You can enjoy 1506 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,880 Speaker 1: it with your Thanksgiving feast there if you're overseas, you 1507 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:25,439 Speaker 1: know Thursday. And finally, because it's in the contract and 1508 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:29,680 Speaker 1: I didn't say it earlier, this podcast is sponsored by 1509 01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:34,560 Speaker 1: Mr Flames economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands. That 1510 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,240 Speaker 1: was all right, let's go home. I mean that guy 1511 01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,000 Speaker 1: you want to get. You do not want Mr half 1512 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:42,800 Speaker 1: on your beads. He's very fair, but you don't want 1513 01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,400 Speaker 1: to take him into a nuclear crisis. Is then hands 1514 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,799 Speaker 1: the signing off for the Mailman, the Boss, the Sizzler, 1515 01:17:48,840 --> 01:18:00,120 Speaker 1: and I'll see it behind the glass till Tuesday. M 1516 01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:15,360 Speaker 1: What happened to like the fans that used to do 1517 01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,560 Speaker 1: the laser pointers into people's eyes. Why don't we have 1518 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,280 Speaker 1: more of that? Society turned