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Speaker 3: Nate Newton, Kirk Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 3: the Star in Frisco, Texas, where it is eighty five degrees,

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Speaker 4: He is Shinnon, That is Nate. In the back is

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Speaker 4: Chris Bean keeping his live in local. This is Kirk

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Speaker 4: two pumped Daniel, because three pumps will get you a flag.

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Speaker 3: We good old Nate, get along over here, get a

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Speaker 3: get along.

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Speaker 2: You know what's so amazing. I used to be the

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Speaker 2: most trouble making dude. Just say yes, I mean yes.

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Speaker 2: My goal whenever I met a person, I would find

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Speaker 2: out everything. I would let them just talk talk to

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Speaker 2: and then everything they said I didn't agree with, I

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Speaker 2: would just use it against them. Now, in my later years,

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Speaker 2: it seemed like I get along with three of the

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Speaker 2: most offensive people to a lot of other people come

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Speaker 6: I mean complicated, I mean wow, think.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, those names will remains, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, do not want no problems, man, I get along

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Speaker 6: with these cats.

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Speaker 4: There are core people in our industry who a lot

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Speaker 4: of people just don't get along with.

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Speaker 7: Jesse.

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Speaker 6: Did you see the front of cards computers?

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Speaker 4: See the trouble maker. There's still trouble maker in at

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Speaker 4: that part.

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Speaker 5: Just go to that wide shot.

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Speaker 8: Trouble maker. Whoa bet your bottom with Kurt on the

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Speaker 8: groove and something? He just okay, all right, let's see tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: That was good. I'm gonna get my Carolina thing quick.

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Speaker 8: Let me just get that out right. The Carolina Panthers

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Speaker 8: would give you their best game at home. On the road,

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Speaker 8: they are a different team. At home, you're gonna get

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Speaker 8: their best game. Check out the records, check out the stats.

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Speaker 6: What you know? Yeah they two and oh, I mean

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Speaker 6: they beat the breaks.

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Speaker 2: Off of Atlanta and they they came back from down

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Speaker 2: and got Miami. I'm not saying these are two great teams.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying they play harder at home. They go

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Speaker 2: on the road, they don't play us with everything it's

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Speaker 2: predicated off of their defense. They run a reduced look.

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Speaker 2: There they are three four guy. They have a guy

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Speaker 2: a nose guard. That is the original and four linebackers.

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Speaker 2: That's the original three to four, but now everything is

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Speaker 2: depending on what they're running and if it's the white

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Speaker 2: I saw against they got the A and B gaps.

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Speaker 2: But normally they'll get in there and they'll get out

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Speaker 6: To get after you. But Nick.

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Speaker 2: Scarton number eleven is I'm saying that right, he's a

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Speaker 6: He'll get a lot of rush. He'll get a lot

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Speaker 2: The type of team that when they're home, their defensive

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Speaker 2: number thirty two Trevor Wallace. These guys can run and

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Speaker 6: When they get a lot of motion. I see their

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Speaker 2: And in number thirty two Trevor Is I.

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Speaker 6: Pronounce that right Trayvon t r Travan.

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Speaker 2: Travan t Yes, Travan Wall, these guys, I think the

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Speaker 2: head coach, Dave Canalis, he's having the same problem that

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Speaker 2: we the Cowboys, the Jets and the Bears, trying to

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Speaker 6: They're big dog.

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Speaker 2: but he's not an all the time player.

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Speaker 6: He's got the ability. He's one of them few dudes.

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Speaker 2: That can just mess around, jack around and still wind

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Speaker 2: I hate guys that in first gear they can kind

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Speaker 2: In third gear, you ain't got a chance. You know

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Speaker 4: But you never know what gear you're getting.

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Speaker 2: You never know what gear you got, so you got

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Speaker 2: to stay full twenty seven, you know, alert and the secondary.

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Speaker 2: ain't like you can't pass on them. But as the

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Speaker 2: And their defense they have a lot of third down situations.

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Speaker 6: They get off the field.

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Speaker 2: They get off the field, like against Miami, they got

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Speaker 2: when they went on the road against your boys, the

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Speaker 2: seen it Byron so much. Uh, they were three for nine.

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Speaker 2: They'll get, they will get. They can get off the field.

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Speaker 2: But that thing we're gonna talk about tomorrow is the

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Speaker 6: Stay off the field.

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Speaker 2: But hey, that's all I got to say, because I

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Speaker 2: made a promise to myself when you sorry, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: quit coming in and saying we got the drugs. So

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Speaker 2: gonna fix this this week. So until we improve ourselves,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna quit throwing darts. I'm gonna be like Coach

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Speaker 2: Belichick used to be, speaking on about yourself to be.

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Speaker 6: Just go to finish it up.

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Speaker 4: Baby. You know a lot of what you said is

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Speaker 4: absolutely true. They don't do. Last year, this defense was

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Speaker 4: Nick's point, I think what they're looking to do is,

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Speaker 4: let's just be where we're supposed to be, right like,

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Speaker 4: let's play with great effort, and they play with great

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Speaker 4: effort upfront. Let's just be where we're supposed to be.

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Speaker 4: We're not gonna trick this thing up. We're not gonna

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Speaker 4: give you all these exotic looks and all that. So

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Speaker 4: they're very similar to what the Cowboys are this year. Defensively,

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Speaker 4: it's our looks up front will be very basic. They're

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Speaker 4: not blitzing much. They they want to. They do a

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Speaker 4: You'll get some juice off the edge from three, uh,

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Speaker 4: from eleven, and then every now and again they'll send

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Speaker 4: They're gonna play a lot of zone covers on the

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Speaker 4: one of those games where you know the Cowboys offensively.

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Speaker 4: I tweeted about it earlier. I said, you know, Jake Ferguson,

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Speaker 4: where you should be able to kill them well because

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Speaker 4: the middle of the field is open. Yes, the middle

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Speaker 4: Their linebackers don't drop very deep. So there is that

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Speaker 4: that that that throw that Dak love, that seam throw,

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Speaker 4: some of those some of the some of the option

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of that that's available behind that defense,

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Speaker 4: especially using the play action as well. The Cowboys have

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Speaker 4: this is the team who give great effort at home.

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Speaker 4: Nate's spot on with that. They don't do much like

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Speaker 4: they're They're not out there where you're confused, and that's

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Speaker 4: that's in it. I think today where we where we

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Speaker 4: shift some a little bit, but it's not like, you know,

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Speaker 4: play the percentages, we'll play the we'll play the part

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Speaker 4: of you we you know, you you go one on

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Speaker 4: one with Derrick Brown and he beats you. Now he

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Speaker 9: Just defense a lot like the Cowboys and sounds it

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Speaker 9: is if so, is it better or worse?

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Speaker 2: I think their defensive line is better than ours. Really,

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know about their secondary because like

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Speaker 2: know if I can get to it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's very similar to the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: And I would, like I said, I would give their

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Speaker 4: he's the he's the difference maker. Across that front, and

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Speaker 4: they do have a nice rotation. It feels like if

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Speaker 4: they got a ninety number there in that rotation, ninety

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Speaker 4: eight like all nineties.

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Speaker 6: So the one that's not the number eleven.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, and they'll have three come off the edge

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Speaker 4: sometimes too. So like those guys coming off the edge

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Speaker 4: for this, watch out for that. They they line up

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Speaker 5: All right, let's take our first break when we come back.

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Speaker 3: Dak has now started as many games as Tony Romo.

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Speaker 6: Get into that.

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Speaker 3: To start than a good old quarterback comparison. We all

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Speaker 5: With one of the quarterbacks we'll talk about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dak Prescott has now started just as many games

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Speaker 5: Their numbers are similar.

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Speaker 3: Romo has more yards and touchdowns, but Dak has a

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Speaker 5: Just for fun?

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Speaker 4: Hey, you know, I'm I'm never I'm not a fence

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Speaker 4: rider like I'm I'm I'm black or white, But boy,

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Speaker 4: the trajectory is looking the same, Like it's looking very similar.

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Speaker 4: Like totally different quarterbacks. I enjoyed the elusiveness and sometimes

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Speaker 4: the gunslinger in Tony Romo. At the end of Tony

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Speaker 4: Romo's career, his last couple of years, Tony was calling

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Speaker 4: about sixty five percent of the place from the lone

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Speaker 4: of scrimmage like whatever was whenever Jason Garrett was sending in,

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Speaker 4: he was changing out the line of scrimmage like he

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Speaker 4: was Yeah, like he was on that. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 4: it's it's uncommon in today's era of football. I think

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Speaker 4: the the old school mental aspect of quarterbacking. When you

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Speaker 4: talk about the Breezes, the Philip Rivers, the Maddie and

448
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Speaker 4: the Brady Brady's and all those guys, those guys who

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Speaker 4: came up and through that era, you were you were

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Speaker 4: forced to be able to go out there and be

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Speaker 4: a coach on the field like it was. It was.

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Speaker 4: It was a prerequisite to play the position now in

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Speaker 4: today's football, not saying that guys don't don't call it

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Speaker 4: into a lot of scrimmage, but your coordinators nowadays are

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Speaker 4: doing more of the deciphering the defense and where you're

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Speaker 4: supposed to go with the ball by dictating it through

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Speaker 4: how they do motions and setups and things of that nature.

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Speaker 4: Like like Tony would break the huddle, get to a

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Speaker 4: lot of scrimmage and go, oh, it's not gonna work

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Speaker 4: like this whole thing. Scrap it. We're going to this

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Speaker 4: over here. Now more so than ever, you'll hear offenses

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Speaker 4: will come out and they like, all right, I know

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Speaker 4: when we are in this formation and we do this motion,

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Speaker 4: they're going to go to that coverage. So when they

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Speaker 4: do that, ball should go right there, like don't don't,

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Speaker 4: don't think about it, take the profit right there.

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Speaker 6: And so the.

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Speaker 4: Quarterbacks now are less they're they're they're less knowledgeable at

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Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage. You have some teams in the

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Speaker 4: league where some quarterbacks where they're center, we're calling.

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Speaker 6: Some of the checks.

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Speaker 4: And some of the changes, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: Like so like, and and those guys learn the game differently.

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Speaker 4: They had time to kind of sit and mature for

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Speaker 4: two and three years. These guys nowadays, it's like you

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Speaker 4: got to come in today and be ready to go.

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Speaker 4: And the college game has changed. There's more guys are

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Speaker 4: doing one word things in colleges Now you don't have

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Speaker 4: to really decipher plays and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: So they're different, but their trajectory is the same. Part

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Speaker 4: of part of it probably being because of the organization

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Speaker 4: from top and how it assembles teams, which leads to

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Speaker 4: it to be very similar to what these guys are.

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Speaker 4: Both of these guys are. Both of these guys were picks,

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Speaker 4: one being a free agent, one being a fourth or

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Speaker 4: fifth round pick, and not really expected to be the guy.

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Speaker 4: Neither one of these guys were like brought in was

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Speaker 4: like you're going to be the guy. You're going to

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Speaker 4: be the guy. It was more so it fell into

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Speaker 4: their lap and then they had to grow into this

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Speaker 4: position and grow into being a guy. So I don't

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Speaker 4: know who's better or who's not better. I can tell

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Speaker 4: you for sure that's probably a head and head over

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Speaker 4: heels better leader. Than Tony was how he gets interact

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Speaker 4: with the guys and talks to the guys, and then

496
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 4: than Tony was Tony was very isolated and insulated with

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Speaker 4: the guys that his crew, and you know, the locker

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Speaker 4: rooms at that time when I was a part of

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Speaker 4: it was an older locker room, so you didn't kind

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Speaker 4: of I didn't need I didn't need to be a friend.

501
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 4: I didn't need to be invited to all your parties

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Speaker 4: and birthdays and dinners and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: It was an older group. So it's just different. But

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can't go wrong with either one of them.

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Speaker 4: Neither one of them has won the big Game, neither

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Speaker 4: one of them have had playoff success. They'll give you

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Speaker 4: what they'll give you in the regular season. Listen, Uh,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what is it? What did they say?

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Speaker 4: Two dozen? One hand? What that term goes doesn't in

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Speaker 4: one hand? Half another?

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Speaker 6: Whatever? How would that go?

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Speaker 4: Then the other? Yeah, I feel how you feel. You

513
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: got team Tony Romo, you got team Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 3: Well you think, Kurt, you cover both of them?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree with a lot what you said there.

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Speaker 9: I think the leadership thing is vastly different. But they're

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Speaker 9: just Tony is more of a gun slinger, flinging around

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Speaker 9: a little bit, which is both good and bad. Where

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Speaker 9: dak Is, you know, maybe a little more cerebral in

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Speaker 9: some way, but in the end they have the same.

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Speaker 4: On the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, Nate as a as a Cowboy fan, which

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Speaker 3: which one have you enjoyed watching the most?

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Speaker 4: Troy somehow, some way out of his mouth.

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Speaker 6: Don't matter no more.

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Speaker 2: It don't matter, baby, who's the second best, Roger, who's

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Speaker 2: the third best?

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Speaker 6: It don't matter, y'all ain't won nothing.

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Speaker 4: And and ultimately, barring any health uh end or injury,

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Speaker 4: that's gonna pass all of them. He's going to pass

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Speaker 4: Roger and Tony and and and Troy. Yeah, in the

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Speaker 4: in the numbers categories. But again that's that's good for

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Speaker 4: his ledger. When he's all sat and down, he can

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Speaker 4: tell his kids, I'm the all time leading passer touchdown

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Speaker 4: Cowboy history, and that's great. But we all know what

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Speaker 4: it's what really matters because we won't know, like nobody

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Speaker 4: knows where Troy Aikman is at in the in.

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Speaker 6: The how many Yeah, we don't.

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Speaker 4: We don't know Troy, how many touchdowns Troy has, how

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Speaker 4: many completions he at? What is the completion of percentage?

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Speaker 6: What was this?

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Speaker 4: What was that? What do we know? It's super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: He's called back three super Bowl teams, and that trumps

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Speaker 4: everything that is. That is, that's big joker. Slimming down

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Speaker 4: on the table trumps everything that you do. We don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know where Roger Stalback is at in the

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Speaker 4: the ledger.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Nobody knows, right like, nobody cares. Nobody cares because all

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Speaker 4: they when Troy walks in, everybody goes. They bow, and

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter whether he's fifth, sixth, seventh, twelfth in

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Speaker 4: yards or touchdowns or completions whatever. When he walks in

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Speaker 4: the room, they bow. They all bow. Why he got

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Speaker 4: three of them things.

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Speaker 5: He's a winner.

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Speaker 4: He got three of them things. You don't have to walk.

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Speaker 4: They don't, they don't. Nobody never announces, you know, Troy Aikman,

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Speaker 4: What a great leader he was, Treyman ten thousand yards,

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Speaker 4: you know, one hundred thousand yards passing, Troy Aikman, two

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Speaker 4: million touchdown No, no, never ever, they never do. They

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Speaker 4: go Troy Aikman, three time Super Bowl champion, Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 6: So that's what's gonna make Eli first ballot.

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Speaker 4: He ain't gonna be first ballot. He ain't gonna be first.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be an interesting Hall of Fame year.

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Speaker 6: They'll get in.

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Speaker 4: He'll get in. You can't. You got two super bowls.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna put this some dudes. You look, yeah, you

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Speaker 4: look at the names. He got two super Bowls. He'll

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Speaker 4: get in eventually, but first ballot.

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Speaker 2: he would be playing during the season. Same with Michael Jordan,

658
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: and they were like, oh, they lost that game, but

659
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: the coach had, hey, look at here, remember that feeling,

660
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: and he'll take them during the week. He'll take them

661
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: back over that this is where we went wrong at

662
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: when this comes back up again.

663
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 6: We will be ready.

664
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: It's the preparation, and then you got to have enough guys.

665
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: We always talk about Tony and Dak, but I've never

666
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: seen them put enough dogs on defense. For Dak, I've

667
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: never seen them have two legit bulldoll receivers. We had

668
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: a Mauri he disappeared, that left CD Lamb. Then we

669
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: got our tight ends just coming into play. We get

670
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 2: a decent tight end that goes he's down with the Texans.

671
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: You when you have that quarterback that you think can

672
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: light it up, you got to give everything to him

673
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: and give him everything he needs at that because it

674
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: ain't but a two or three winner in today's NFL.

675
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 6: It ain't no three, four or five.

676
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: It's so one or two year window that you're gonna

677
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: have to be very special. Now, if we're talking about

678
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: the Mahomes, you see where he's at this year. It's

679
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: gonna eventually wean off because the players are not there.

680
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 2: We know who Andy Reid is, we know who Mahomes is,

681
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 2: but they've been trying to get that receiver. They've won

682
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: by running the ball, They've run by playing great defense

683
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: a super Bowl. But since that first one with Mahomes

684
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: just lit it up, it ain't happened no more. This

685
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 2: league is just too devastating, and the coaches are too good,

686
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: and the players on the other team are too good,

687
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: when you become the hunted. So when I look at

688
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: when I like, the best chance I think the Cowboys

689
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: had with Dak was two years ago when they let

690
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: Green Bay come in here and just run the ball.

691
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they would have went to the Super Bowl,

692
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: but that was the best chance for them to get

693
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: to the NFC Championship game.

694
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 6: They blew that.

695
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: Do we blame that on the coach or do we

696
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: blame it on the players? But somewhere in there that happened.

697
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: That was their best chance. Now, remember that year they

698
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: went twelve or thirteen wins. I can't think what year was,

699
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen or whatever.

700
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 4: Sixteen, Yeah, three.

701
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 2: When you let when you let New York coming here

702
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: and just beat you to death with with just a

703
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: bunch of pass rushers on defense. You let him that

704
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: was your chance. I don't know if it was preparations

705
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: with the coach. I don't know if the player. It

706
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 2: was too big for the players, But you played enough

707
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: games that year to have accumulated experience and knowledge. I'm

708
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: telling you, Michael Irvin, that look you're talking about with

709
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: Kobe and George Troy didn't have to have that look because.

710
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 6: Michael Irvin had that look.

711
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: Eric William had that look, Tony Tobert had that look,

712
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 2: Charles Haley had that look, Darren Woodson had that look.

713
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 6: No, we done came too far. We don't experience too much.

714
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: That is why I think when you have a elite quarterback,

715
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 2: well then I ain't talking about athletic wise. I'm talking

716
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: with the ability to throw, to connect his brain to

717
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: that ball in his hands.

718
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 6: You got to have sensing. That is a I feel

719
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 6: for this kid.

720
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: He got y'all to a Super Bowl, and how did

721
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: you repay him by making his offensive line worse?

722
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 6: You can't do that.

723
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 5: So great great stuff, Nate.

724
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: Question for you guys knowing and I've been against this

725
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 3: all along until y'all I think y'all might have just

726
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 3: talked me into something that I said they shouldn't do,

727
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 3: but knowing how hard it is to get to this point, right,

728
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: Dak's looking great. It's only what four five games in?

729
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 3: He looks great. If they keep playing like this, knowing

730
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 3: you guys know how it is you're want injury away

731
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: from it's over right, Knowing you're playing like this, knowing

732
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 3: how good the offense is, Knowing you've got two really

733
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: good wide receivers, you got.

734
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 5: Finally have a running game.

735
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 3: It looks like your offensive line is there, your tight

736
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 3: ends coming into play, offense, all the boxes are checked, right,

737
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: Would you spend some of this draft capital knowing like

738
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: like you said, the window is maybe two years this

739
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: year and maybe next year.

740
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 5: Because if you're if you're if you're gonna.

741
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 3: Draft and you're gonna invest in that, that's you're on

742
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 3: the back side of that's window. Contract wise, you know,

743
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: age wise, If you all know what a difference maker

744
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: on defense can make, get somebody off on the defensive line,

745
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 3: get you a lot.

746
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 5: I know we're more than one.

747
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: Or two players away, But would you spend some of

748
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: that capital and take a chance and go, you know what?

749
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 3: This the way this offense is playing five games in

750
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: if they keep this up, this is gonna be our

751
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: best shot in the next four years other than actually

752
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 3: real dealting.

753
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: It is in November the fourth, right, yes, yeah, so

754
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: you got several games you can play to see if

755
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: this can maintain. So when is that November? Who?

756
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 6: How many more games? Would that be?

757
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: Three more games that we have played counting this week?

758
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 2: Count this week?

759
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 4: So for counting this week?

760
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm throwing this to you first, Jess, would

761
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: you because me.

762
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 5: I've been against it.

763
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 3: But as we talk about this, I'm like, you know what,

764
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 3: this may be your best shot.

765
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't. They got they got to win.

766
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: It can't be a close and a maybe they have

767
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: to win for me to even think about giving up

768
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: a fourth.

769
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 6: I'm just telling you about me.

770
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: But Jesse, I mean you, you're a little more levelheaded

771
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 2: than me, because I get like a mule.

772
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 6: I don't want to hear.

773
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 4: So I said this a week or two ago. If

774
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 4: we get to the trade deadline and this team is,

775
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 4: how many games would have played by them?

776
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 6: Ten were for more before November fourth.

777
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 4: So if this team is let's just say this team

778
00:42:55,160 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 4: is six two and one. I'm spending go get it because.

779
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 6: You don't.

780
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 4: This league is so unpredictable. If my quarterback is healthy

781
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 4: and we're six too and one, nine games, but yeah,

782
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 4: so six two and one, Yeah, yep, yep. If we're

783
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 4: six too and one at that point in time, I'm spending.

784
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 6: That means your defense has gotten better too.

785
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 4: I'm spending because.

786
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 5: You're spending all on defense.

787
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm good. I'm good offensively, Yeah, I'm clearly. We

788
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 4: said if my quarterback.

789
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 6: Is healthy, not two wide receiver and we're six too and.

790
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 4: One, I'm I'm going I'm going like, uh like my

791
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 4: boys snead in the rams f these picks.

792
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 9: Yeah.

793
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: See see the show, the show before us, which I

794
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: won't call any names due to the tension.

795
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 4: The show before Us. You gotta call names. You just

796
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 4: told them who it was.

797
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 6: That show.

798
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, I'm adamant man is.

799
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 6: I don't know why man football is a Stephen said that.

800
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 4: Steven says, it's a three hundred and sixty five day

801
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 4: a year.

802
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: What you're saying, And I agree that. I believe that

803
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: it ain't no three year window no more. It's one

804
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 2: of two years. And you either make it happen money

805
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: you don't.

806
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 9: In your drafts, even if you use those picks getting

807
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 9: and I just git somebody, you know.

808
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: And what got me to change my mind or my

809
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: stance on this is I don't want to see two

810
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: really good quarterbacks on the verge of greatness their careers

811
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 3: get wasted because you didn't go all in one of

812
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: these years and go do it like I don't.

813
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 5: Want to see.

814
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 4: But history will tell you that's not this ownership, right,

815
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 4: that's not that's not who they are. I mean, the

816
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 4: greatest I guess trade they've made in the last twenty

817
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 4: years was Amar. They gave me a first for Mari

818
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 4: when they thought coming into that year. I don't know

819
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 4: who the hell convinced them that wide receiver by committee

820
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 4: was gonna be a thing. I don't know who thought

821
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 4: that idea was great. I don't know who who was

822
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 4: that prince, the wide receiver coach. I don't know how

823
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 4: he convinced. I don't know how he convinced they'll do

824
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 4: the Like now I'm telling you, we got we got,

825
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 4: we got Alan Hearn, we got like we got Wait

826
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 4: wait a minute, like this is this is the players

827
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 4: league now with this committee thing that don't that don't

828
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 4: work not a skill position you need you need guys.

829
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 4: But other than that, it was it's like Donathan Hankins,

830
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 4: it's mingo. It's I mean names that we look at

831
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 4: and we go okay, but a huge impact, not not

832
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 4: not game changing, not even not even really moved a needle.

833
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 9: I would even considered even if they're not six, two

834
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 9: and one on or whatever. I mean, because you're like

835
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 9: you said, we've got a year or two now, maybe

836
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 9: you make that deal now for you know, stud defensive guy,

837
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 9: because better than what.

838
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 4: You get, what would you do?

839
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 5: Would you hold on?

840
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: Because I've been to like, don't give that. You got

841
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 3: a lot of draft picks that's built for the future.

842
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 3: But I'm like, man, let's now.

843
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 4: I gotta see a couple more games. Yeah, I gotta

844
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 4: see a couple of revisiting two and one. I used

845
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 4: it like because curse, like do it.

846
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 9: Now now for next year even I mean, you're gonna

847
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 9: get a stud now that can help you next year.

848
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 5: You'll bring you in now instead of wasting half the years, or.

849
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 9: You're gonna spend it on a draft pick that's an unknown.

850
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 4: If I see, that's where it gets because what we

851
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 4: currently sit today and now football is a week to

852
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 4: week league is a fluid situation. We can change our

853
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 4: thoughts and our ideas week to week to week, but

854
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 4: show but.

855
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 6: The only way we're gonna change is from what we see.

856
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 9: Right, and we've got three defensive ends who are all

857
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 9: second round picks. So maybe we need to spend high

858
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 9: draft capital. Maybe we need to spend that on trades

859
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 9: for guys we know are good instead of boy.

860
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 4: It showed this conversation would feel a lot different if

861
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 4: we didn't have to trade to go get up.

862
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 5: I never said that's a conversation.

863
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: But where it's a dude out there, but do you

864
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 2: want it? We had him now Will now Will. He's

865
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 2: out there, Wilkins. We can say his name, right, Wilkins,

866
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 2: the guy from the Raiders.

867
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 4: We don't want him. That's a little to you need

868
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,959
Speaker 4: a younger guy's situation. I'm not trying to.

869
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 7: Like that.

870
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 6: That's that's the kind.

871
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 4: Of guy who would come into this organization and you

872
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 4: said you need focused dudes. He's not a focus dude

873
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 4: to me. He won't be a dude that will come

874
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 4: in and get and and and be like hey grab

875
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 4: a guy, like let's come on, you need a guy.

876
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, like he gonna be.

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Speaker 6: He gonna be, but you're talking about spend in the Capitol.

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Speaker 4: He gonna be at the candle room. Is that it's

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Speaker 4: still open?

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Speaker 11: I doubt it, but you you know what I mean,

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Speaker 11: like that was the joint.

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Speaker 4: He gonna be, he gonna be uptown. Yeah, No, I'm

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Speaker 4: good on him. I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, all right, man, this is you know what,

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Speaker 3: This is a hell of a lot funner conversation than

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Speaker 3: we were having after week two.

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Speaker 5: Should we go all in?

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Speaker 13: Because week two we were like, get rid of everybody,

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Speaker 13: rebuild all right, fellas, good stuff today, Jesse, Nate, get along,

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Speaker 13: get along, Sir Kurt, good seeing you fix that computer.

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Speaker 5: Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air. Josh Stays

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Speaker 5: for keeping him company. We'll be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys Defense Carolina Offenserow, Nate, Nate, Date's go check out tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: but he'll be here.

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Speaker 5: Come watch him. Get along. Nate on Hanging with the Boys.

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