1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast. Let me 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: tell you a little bit about Scott Mitchell, a mind 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: opening Bible teacher, host of Bible Mysteries podcasts. Scott has 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: been a student of the Bible, Bible history in Biblical 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: mysteries for forty plus years. His careers have spanned music, 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: legal support, and technology. Scott has pastored a Bible church 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: in Texas, is the founder of the Unlock the Bible 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: Now ministry, and after years of studies, Scott found the 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: key to unlocking the secrets in the Bible. Scott began 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Bible Mysteries podcast and his utbnow dot com website shares 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: the truth about what the world is trying to hide. Scott, 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: welcome back. It's great to be back, George. Good to 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: hear you. I'm looking forward to this and how have 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: you been. I've been quite well. Last time you and 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 1: I spoke, I had an attack happening in a tell 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: room as I was traveling, and this time I made 18 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: sure to pray an armor up so the same attack 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: won't happen again. Was it a demountic attack? On you. 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: I do believe so. You and I had spoken several 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: times in the past, and I never had my throat 22 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: just close up, as if somebody grabbed it and closed 23 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: it up and I was struggling to even speak. They 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: did not want you to tell us whatever you were 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: telling us that night. I firmly believe that. And how 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: silly of me not to think about making sure the 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: armor of God was surrounding me. I just didn't think 28 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: about it. And sure enough, Yeah, that came through Scott. 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Before we get into the UFO alien tie in, here, 30 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: give us your description of fallen angels and what they are. Yeah. So, 31 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: I believe that the Bible indicates the angels were created 32 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: by God in the beginning, and evidently one third of 33 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: them joined one particular chair up in an insurrection against God. 34 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: This particular cherb was named Lucifer. He wanted to be God, 35 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: and he drew a third of the angels into this rebellion. 36 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: There was a war, and it practically devastated our solar system. 37 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: I believe the evidence is all around us. It's possible 38 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: that the asteroid belt that we see today was a 39 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: planet called Rahab in the Bible and the devastation that 40 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: came from that rained down on Mars and the Moon 41 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: and the Earth. But at one point the Earth was 42 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: their home, it was his dominion. And then God restored 43 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: that planet, granted dominion of the Earth to man, whom 44 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: he created much more recently than the angels, and the 45 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: angels have been angry and they've wanted it back ever since. 46 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: What made them go astray in the first place pride. 47 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: This entity named Lucifer was a cherub that was created, 48 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: the most beautiful created, being full of the sum of 49 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: was some perfect in beauty. Every precious stone was his covering, 50 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: according to his Eco twenty eight. And that was not 51 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: enough for him. He wanted more than just to be 52 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: second fiddle to the Lord himself. He wanted to be 53 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: He wanted to receive worship. And he was able to 54 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: convince these angels to join him in a rebellion, probably 55 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: by promising them some form of power or dominion themselves 56 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: if they won the insurrection, and hence we get the 57 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: phrase the love of money is the root of all evil. 58 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: Have they grown in terms of stature or population amongst themselves? 59 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 1: I don't believe they have, but it's interesting you bring 60 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: that up, George, because the angels themselves don't procreate amongst 61 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: each other. We know that they violated God's commandment in 62 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: Genesis six when they came down and procreated with human 63 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: women to create the giants of the Nephelim. So the 64 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: Nephelim had increased their number at least up to the 65 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: time when they were destroyed in the flood of Noah 66 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: and became the disembodied spirits or demons as people refer 67 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: to them. But they'll be uh. I believe the alien 68 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: abduction hybridization program is increasing their numbers now because the 69 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: devil knows he's outnumbered two to one in this upcoming battle, 70 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: and he's creating an army in my opinion, of hybrid 71 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: human aliens that are much more they're they're the Superman 72 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: or the X Men, you know of our fantasy movies. 73 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: But they're going to be uh. They're literally going to 74 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: war against the God of Heaven when he returns. And yeah, yes, 75 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: tell us, how Scott you tied the alien phenomenon in 76 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: with the fallen angels. Then well, you know it kind 77 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: of starts with the passages in Um in the Bible 78 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: about the term the chariots of fire. In fact, that's 79 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: an episode one twenty three, one twenty four at Bible 80 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: Mysteries podcast dot com if anybody wants to check it out. 81 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: But these are vehicles of conveyance, you know that. And 82 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: though those centuries of the prophets like Elijah to see 83 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: something flying across the sky, there were no cars or 84 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: airplanes for them to equate that too. So in the 85 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: language of their century, they're calling it a chariot of 86 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: fire because it's the closest vehicle of conveyance that they 87 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: can compare it to. But in reality, I believe what 88 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: they were seeing were what we would call UFOs. And 89 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: this idea that angels, unfortunately, Christianity is deeply infected with heresies, 90 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: including gnosticism today and Cristo Platonism, and so we think 91 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: of angels as these non corporeal spirit beings, but they're not. 92 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: They're very much physical and corporeal. They when they have 93 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: appeared in the Bible, they appeared to look like men. 94 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: They eat, they can be touched and handled, and they 95 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: these chariots of fire drawn by horses of fire. According 96 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: to the Bible, in the Book of Kings and Samuels. 97 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: So second Samuel. So you've got we've got to change 98 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: our thinking of this Western ideology from the Bible, when 99 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: in fact it's a it's an Oriental book, and we 100 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: need to think of it as a Middle Eastern book, 101 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, and with Eastern mentality and the ancients and 102 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: the Rabbis of old, they didn't think of angels as 103 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: ghostly apparitions. They knew that they were physical beings that 104 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: could be touched and held. Scott. Are the aliens all 105 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: fallen angels or are some of them indeed from other 106 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: planetary systems. That's the great question, George, that there's debate about. 107 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: I fall on the on the side of they're not aliens. 108 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: They're not. They're extraterrestrial in every sense of the word, 109 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: because they're not from this planet necessarily. But I think 110 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: that the Greats, for example, that everybody who talks about 111 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: from say Roswell right, they are probably host bodies for 112 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: the disembodied spirits of the Nephelim. So that's where I 113 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: come down on it. There's there's other opinions about that, 114 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: but I believe they are probably carrying out an agenda. 115 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: I don't think they want to be doing this. They 116 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: would rather possess a human body if they could, and 117 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: they're doing plenty of that too, particularly in my opinion 118 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: in government. I believe politicians are mostly possessed. And that 119 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're running around spinning their heads and spinning 120 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: pace soup like the movies. You know, they're following a 121 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:45,119 Speaker 1: carefully orchestrated agenda of domination and destruction of civilization because 122 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: they want to bring about this government of the anti Christ. 123 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 1: Now there's a program underfoot, of course, where we claim 124 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: the abductions are done by extraterrestrials. You think there's another 125 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: agenda here. I really, because if you think about the 126 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: fact that in Genesis six, when the sons of God 127 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: saw the daughters of men that they were fair and 128 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: took them wives of which they chose, I believe there 129 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: was an exchange that took place. They made a contract 130 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: with humanity because God gave man dominion of the earth, 131 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: so there's some rules of engagement they have to play by. 132 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: And when they came down, they said, hey, give us 133 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: your wives, we will give you technology. And the exchange 134 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: took place. Well, when the wives were taken by these entities, 135 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: these were fallen angels, but the children that were produced 136 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: by them, and the women of Earth were hybrids. So 137 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: these became the giants of the Bible in the land 138 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: of Canaan later on after that, but God destroyed the 139 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: entire planet with a flood because of that. And you know, 140 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: the story of Noah is not the story we learned 141 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: as little kids, where you know, two of our kind 142 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: of animal went in the art because people were just 143 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: not nice to each other. No, there was a genetic 144 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: corruption and manipulation of God's creation of not just humans, 145 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: but of the animal kingdom. So chimeras and things like 146 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: that from lore and mythology are probably true. And therefore 147 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: God destroyed even the animal kingdom except for the ones 148 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: that he saved on the arc. What he placed on 149 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: the arc were the only genetically pure humans and animals 150 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: that he originally created from their kind, and he saved 151 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: those but destroyed the rest because they were not fully human. 152 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: And I believe that these became the disembodied spirits that 153 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: the dead Nephelim, the dead giants, and they are probably 154 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: through their fathers, which are the fallen angels, the ones 155 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: that remained unchained in hell because they weren't punished yet. 156 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: They haven't done the same things that their brethren did. 157 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: They're the ones that probably created or somehow manufactured host 158 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: bodies for them, and that could somehow be an indication 159 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: of what the Grays potentially are. Were they scott abominations? 160 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: I think they were. Weren't they? Absolutely? Absolutely? And in fact, 161 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: the that's a great term for it, because we don't 162 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: get this story from the Bible. But there's a there's 163 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: a book called the Book of the Knock, which is 164 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: considered a noncanonical book, but it's historically significant, and it's 165 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: the only book that tells of this story about the 166 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: Nephelim in the details that we get from that. And 167 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: I give it relevance only because it's actually cited in 168 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: the Bible, in the Book of Jude and by Second Peter. 169 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: But they state that these entities came and when they 170 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: fathered the offspring, these giants took over the legends of 171 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: the Titans and the and the Greek gods. All of 172 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: that ties back to these things, and they practically destroyed 173 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: and enslaved humanity. In fact, they even eight human beings, 174 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: according to the Book of a Knock. And so that's 175 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: why they men cried out to God for relief, and 176 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: that's why they were destroyed. But these entities, because they 177 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: were not human, they didn't die. I don't think they 178 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: had souls. They didn't die like men. They died and 179 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: became these disembodied spirits roaming around seeking a body to inhabit, 180 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: whether human or animal. In your podcast episodes, you talk 181 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: about Satan's attack on children. What's going on there. Yeah, 182 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: that's something that's really come to my attention lately. We 183 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: discussed that in episode one, twenty seven and twenty eight. 184 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: But all the way back in the Bible, there was 185 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: the worship of a god named Molech or Bail, and 186 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: the Canaanites were doing that. And then when the children 187 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: of Israel were given the land, the conquest of Canaan 188 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: was literally the destruction or eradication of more giants. And 189 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: one of the abominations they were doing was they were 190 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: burning their children in the fire to Molech. This is 191 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: Sayon's manifestation of himself as one of the gods, and 192 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: he required blood sacrifices. So even Israel got caught up 193 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: in doing this worship. Now go ahead, now you go ahead, Scottie. 194 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: I was going to say that as a result of that, 195 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: they were cursed by God. And so there's something about 196 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: generational curses that came to my understanding from Exodus twenty 197 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: when God had said visiting the iniquity of the fathers 198 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: on the children under the third and fourth generation. And 199 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: I thought, well, that's not fair, because their children they 200 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong. But the problem is it's the 201 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: it's the ramifications of what they did that the adults, 202 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: the parents did that brought these repercussions onto children in 203 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: later generations. And hence I think we're seeing things now 204 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: like sleep paralysis, generational curses, and the current attack on 205 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: our children through gender dysphorias being pushed, you know, toxic masculinity. 206 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: They talk about that normalization of pedophilia. All that's happening 207 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: right now, and that's why Jesus made a special curse 208 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: on those who would offend these little ones that believe 209 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: in me. In Matthew eighteen, he wasn't kidding around. What 210 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: do you think sleep paralysis might be if it's not 211 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: just a medical term? You know, it's really interesting because 212 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: it's dismissed as a medical or psychological thing. If you 213 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: look it up and search it on the web. But 214 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: when you actually research the word like nightmare, it's derived 215 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: from an Old English word mayor, which is not the horse, 216 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: but it's a mythological demon or goblin who torments us 217 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: with frightening dreams. That's what the actual mayor was. And 218 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: so I myself have experienced this, and I'll share a 219 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: story with you if you want later. But these demonic entities, 220 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: I believe are attempting to lure children into deception, or 221 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: it may be that what they're actually experiencing is the 222 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: abduction comin on and the screen memories that are given 223 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: to them are all they can recall. Is maybe a 224 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: bad dream. Interesting. Now, what about your sleep paralysis experience? 225 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: What happened to you? Yeah, it's interesting because when I 226 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: was young, but yeah, I didn't grow up in a 227 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: religious family at all, and we never darkened the door 228 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: of a church. And I recall having recurring nightmares as 229 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: a young child, and one of them involved I would 230 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: be asleep in my own room, in my bed, but 231 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: I was awake. It's like I could see my body 232 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: lying on the bed as if I was outside of 233 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: my body, and I would watch the body rise up 234 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: off the bed, you know. With the covers off, and 235 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: I started to float down a hallway along dark hallway 236 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: which I assume was my house, you know, and it 237 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: was going in the direction of I guess where my parents' 238 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: bedroom was at the end of the house. But it 239 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: was just dark and scary, and I would be struggling 240 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: to wake up, but I couldn't move. You know, you'd 241 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: be screaming, but you couldn't move. And very interesting thing 242 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: happened recently, George where this record a number of times, 243 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: probably until I was around thirteen or fourteen, and I'm 244 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: now sixty years old. A few weeks ago, I was 245 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: visiting my brother in Nashville, and he's just a few 246 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: years younger than I am, and we were just having 247 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: a discussion. And I never talked to him about this, 248 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: and never brought this up to him. We never talked 249 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: about it. And I asked him if he had ever 250 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: had any recurring nightmares when he grew up when he 251 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: was little, and he described the exact same dream that 252 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: I had. Only difference was, he said, at the end 253 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: of a dark hallway where there was some sort of 254 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: an entity, some kind of a He didn't describe it 255 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: as a demon. I don't even think he's really a 256 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: believer in the faith, but he described it as an entity, 257 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: And of course the hair stood up on the back 258 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: of my neck because we've never discussed this, and yet 259 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: he had the same thing. And so I started thinking about, 260 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: could these things be coming through because of something in 261 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: our ancestry, you know, did we have some Masonic great 262 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: great grandparent or or some occult practice that made a covenant? 263 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: And I began to look into generation. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 264 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: a generational curse. I think like the Kennedy's were cursed 265 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: a long time ago, weren't they. Yeah, I believe that's 266 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: very possible. If we take at at at literal value 267 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: what God said in Exodus twenty about visiting the iniquities 268 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: of the fathers upon the children, then you can see 269 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: where that's coming from at that point. Not no, you know, 270 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: I can say that I had two sets of grandparents. 271 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: My maternal grandparents were people of faith, my paternal grandparents 272 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: were not. And my own father was an only child 273 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: that struggled. And I'll tell you just a funny, not 274 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: really funny, but kind of an interesting story that I 275 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: learned much much later in life that my father's mother 276 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: my paternal grandmother was basically forced to marry my grandfather. 277 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: I don't think she loved him. I think she wanted 278 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: another man. In fact, she even ran away and her father, 279 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: my great grandfather, dragged her back to the altar and 280 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: she had to marry what ended up being my grandfather. 281 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: But I don't believe there was any love between the 282 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: two of them. And my father grew up in that 283 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: sort of dysfunctional environment, so he didn't know how to love, 284 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: and therefore my siblings and I were raised in it. 285 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: And it was like a cycle, a pattern was being repeated. 286 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: And interestingly enough, my grandmother's father was a Presbyterian minister, 287 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, but she had had enough a Christian she 288 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with it. And you can imagine 289 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: why in her mind, you know, after that. And so 290 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 1: it's almost as though at somewhere in the family line, 291 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: where we might have been a family or people of faith, 292 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: that faith was abandoned and that the curse began. And 293 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was with my grandmother or 294 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: before that, but that's just the way I was analyzing it. 295 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: If you were to have told them then about fallen 296 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: angels and aliens, what would they have said my family 297 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: or my grandparents. Yes, you know, I have one set 298 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: of grandparents that would have talked to me with an 299 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: open mind, and they were students of the Bible, and 300 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: they were the people that probably were praying for me 301 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: and gently encouraging me through that time. I would say 302 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: ignorance or darkness when I was young. So I thank 303 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: God for them they would have had that discussion with me. 304 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: I've got other members of my family if I I mean. 305 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: I even asked my brother point blank, do you believe 306 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: in demons? And without hesitation, he said no, even though 307 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: he shared the dream with me about the entities, he 308 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: said no. So there there's a cognitive dissonance. And I 309 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: think we probably try to suppress bad memories, bad feelings, 310 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: and you know that your body will remember what the 311 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: mind forgets. Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every 312 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: weeknight at one am Eastern, and go to Coast to 313 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: Coast am dot com for more