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Speaker 1: Advice, Sue.

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Speaker 2: Hell Welcome to the Nord of Man. I show I'm

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Speaker 2: your homes strub shooter. And it is Wednesday, which means

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Speaker 2: our dear friend Donna Meacham joined us. Hey Donnie, are

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Speaker 2: you there?

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Speaker 1: Hell Low? It is Wednesday after a long weekend.

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Speaker 3: Oh it was fabulous, but now I'm even more excited

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Speaker 3: be or talk to you and.

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Speaker 2: Beg you do I saw Taylor Swift this weekend. F fabulous.

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Speaker 1: Did she say, perhaps you'd say I see you out there?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what she did say? She said, come

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Speaker 2: to see my concert for free. I got an email

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Speaker 2: on Friday from her PR people saying do you want

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Speaker 2: to get to see Taylor Swift?

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Speaker 1: I was like, um boom, of course.

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Speaker 2: You know they're good PR people because I've got a

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Speaker 2: big mouth and I'm not really the Taylor Swift demographic,

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Speaker 2: and so to appeal to somebody like me is a

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Speaker 2: good idea. Because I've told every one of my friends everyone, everybody,

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Speaker 2: I have to stopped talking about Taylor Swift for four days.

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Speaker 2: Even my friend Alvista ran one one d he takes

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Speaker 2: to me. It's like it's enough. I've just constant. I

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Speaker 2: was so impressed, not only is she a great musician,

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Speaker 2: she puts on a show and you know, I like

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Speaker 2: a sparkle and her firework and a dancer. She puts

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Speaker 2: on a full Vegas type, Broadway type show. I loved it, Donnie.

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Speaker 2: When she comes to LA I'll try and get your tickets.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's like a three hour ordeal too woman, non stop.

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Speaker 2: It's a little too much. I mean it was almost

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Speaker 2: like an endurance test. At one point I looked at

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Speaker 2: my watch.

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Speaker 1: You were tired, and she's still going. Now it's a

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Speaker 1: Taylor girl.

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Speaker 2: You win. I'm going home. I can't like you've won this.

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Speaker 2: I'm exhausted. I know concerts like that are a young

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Speaker 2: person's game, and I'm not being ages here, I hope.

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Speaker 2: But after thirty standing for three and a half hours,

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Speaker 2: what's a commitment. And she won't be.

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Speaker 1: Able to do that forever either. That's another thing.

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Speaker 3: She could only perform that long for so long as well.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's a lot, it's a lot, but just fabulous. Hey,

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Speaker 2: let's jump into the show. What time is it? My

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Speaker 2: friends time? Big story out of London. So fans are

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Speaker 2: convinced that new rumors about Harry and Meghan's relationship in

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Speaker 2: trouble divorce rumors have everything to do with actual William

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Speaker 2: and Kate. Let me explain. So many people are buzzing

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Speaker 2: that Harry and Meghan are in trouble, their relationship is

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Speaker 2: on the rock, so to speak, and inside as here

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Speaker 2: even saying that the split is going to come sooner

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Speaker 2: than we think. However, now fans are pushing back saying

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Speaker 2: all this new news about Harry and Meghan has everything

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Speaker 2: to do with Kate and William's relationships. So Kate and

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Speaker 2: William are allegedly also in trouble, and claims people are

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Speaker 2: making are that the firm Buckingham Palace is find all

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Speaker 2: this to cause a diversion by putting the spotlight on

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Speaker 2: the sussexes rather than Kate and Williams. There's been lots

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Speaker 2: of rumors about Kate and William, even cheating rumors which

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Speaker 2: they have been definitely shooting down or they've pomped back up.

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Speaker 2: And there might be some issues in the marriage. There

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Speaker 2: always is, I mean, that's not actually that be a

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Speaker 2: thing to say. Every marriage has a few issues. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean anyone's getting divorced today, tomorrow, next week or

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Speaker 2: at all, but there might be problems there, and now

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Speaker 2: they're saying that the real family, people that work for

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Speaker 2: the royal family. I don't think anyone's claiming Kate and

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Speaker 2: or Radar, but they're saying that people that work for

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Speaker 2: the family are pushing the narrative that it's actually Harry

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Speaker 2: and Meghan who are in trouble as a diversion. This

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Speaker 2: is quite a standard pr move. It sounds really awful,

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Speaker 2: doesn't It sounds tacky, It sounds vulgar to do this

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Speaker 2: against your own brother. But I do believe this is

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Speaker 2: a possibility. What do you think.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I can totally see this because it's so easy.

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Speaker 3: All the firm has to do is just.

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Speaker 1: Go hello, hello, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, news about megamarcle, and people are like,

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Speaker 3: tell me everything, tell him nything.

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Speaker 1: Down, we'll report it.

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Speaker 3: And then it gets out there and then before you

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Speaker 3: know it, it has moved over the pond and everyone

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Speaker 3: here is covering it, and then it's a massive story.

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Speaker 3: Whether it is one hundred percent true or not, it

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Speaker 3: becomes a massive story because it deals with Megan and Harry.

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Speaker 3: And let's be quite frank, look, William and Kate, they

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Speaker 3: have some time on their hand. We ofttimes William was

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Speaker 3: going to be the next king. Look, charl just waited

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Speaker 3: longer than we thought. But it's waiting wait, a waiting

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Speaker 3: game now. So he's like, you know what, we got time,

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Speaker 3: let's do a little let's stir up some drama.

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Speaker 2: It is. You don't need to know kings or queens

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Speaker 2: to know that people can divert attention. When I'm in trouble,

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Speaker 2: I say, look over there. Did you see what, Donnie? Did?

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Speaker 2: I know? That's what I say. It's quite a clever tactic.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's a it's a morally correct thing

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Speaker 2: to do. Donnie. Have you diverted attention from your own shadiness?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean one hundred percent. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: calm and it's actually a common tactic, and it's a

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Speaker 1: smart tactic to be.

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Speaker 2: And it works, works every time before every time. Look

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Speaker 2: over there. I don't like that drag queen on RuPaul

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Speaker 2: Strapper's look over there if you don't look at what's

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Speaker 2: or drinks and a tricky topic comes up, I always

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Speaker 2: change it. I know it's such a wild tactic. Once again,

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Speaker 2: my sources are saying neither couple are getting divorced. Do

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Speaker 2: they fight, yes? Do they have disagreements, yes they do.

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Speaker 2: They are real people, they're not robots. But insideers are

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Speaker 2: saying nobody's getting divorced here. However, they do believe that

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Speaker 2: William and Kate's team could potentially be people. Be folks

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Speaker 2: who leak stuff. It's part of the business. It's not

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Speaker 2: very pretty, is it at all? And let's not forget

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Speaker 2: they have a fraud relationship. The Cambridges and the Sussexes

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Speaker 2: brings us to our pole question of the day. Fans

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Speaker 2: everything to do with William and Kate. Do you think

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Speaker 2: they are right? What do you think about this? Go

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Speaker 2: check back tomorrow to hear your results. Donnie Love, what

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Speaker 1: Oh this?

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Speaker 3: Matt Heally, he is Taylor Swift rumored boat well together?

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Speaker 1: He cannot seem to get himself out of drup.

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Speaker 3: How god on, he's blowing off a deluded podcast controversy

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Speaker 3: as Taylor Swift fans are really upset with him and

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Speaker 3: they're denouncing him. So the nineteen seventy five front man,

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Speaker 3: he told The New Yorker in an interview that there

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Speaker 3: was a podcast that he did in February where he

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Speaker 3: called Ice Spice, who was actually on Taylor Swift's Karme

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Speaker 3: remix that was just release. So he went on and

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Speaker 3: the co host, Nick Mullin called Ice Spice an anew

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Speaker 1: Just not a nice thing.

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Speaker 3: Now, stupid Matt himself he kind of laughed along, and

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Speaker 3: he didn't stay for her, he didn't correct him. And

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Speaker 3: now he's coming out and he's like, look those remarks.

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Speaker 3: He's like, nobody's sitting there at night, slumped at their

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Speaker 3: and they go, it's just this thing with Maddy heally

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Speaker 3: that doesn't happen. So basically what he's saying is like

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Speaker 3: anybody who's offended by it is deluded by what's going on.

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Speaker 3: I don't love this answer for him, I get what

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Speaker 3: he's saying. He's saying, like, look, more people the media

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Speaker 3: is may be thinking more about it than actual individual

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Speaker 3: people are, but it doesn't change the fact that you

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Speaker 3: and fully stand up for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, if you're with people. It's my it's my

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Speaker 2: motto in life that I have to be brave and

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Speaker 2: when I see something that's not right, not partisan peting

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Speaker 2: When I see people doing horrible stuff, I can't just

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Speaker 2: remain silent because then I'm condoning it. I have to

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Speaker 2: stand up and say that is not right. So he

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Speaker 2: didn't say this stuff himself, but he was in the

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Speaker 2: reminds me of the Axis Hollywood Billy Bush tape where

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Speaker 2: Billy laughed along and didn't really say anything when they

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Speaker 2: life we have to stand up. And what's making it

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Speaker 2: worse is that this is not an apology. Just say

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Speaker 2: it was a stupid thing to do to be part of.

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Speaker 2: And I wish if I could turn back the clock.

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Speaker 2: I told these two clowns.

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Speaker 2: I don't accept it anymore. When I'm with people, Donnie

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Speaker 2: and a racist jokes, made a homophobic joke, a joke

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Speaker 2: if it stops, the com sation dead and it's really awkward,

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Speaker 2: and it is, I don't care. I say, I won't

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Speaker 2: can't control what they do, but I can control what

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Speaker 2: I do. How are you, Donnie, about standing up for

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Speaker 2: what's right when you're out with friends?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and these.

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Speaker 3: People aren't your friends if they get upset by you

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Speaker 3: correcting them. Yeah, because a real friend would go, oh, wow,

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Speaker 3: you know what, You're right. I didn't realize how that

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Speaker 3: That's a real friend would just go, yes, you're right,

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: That is offensive.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you for pointing that out. I never thought

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Speaker 2: about it like that. Although if you call someone fat,

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's no real way to think about that.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's no two to two angles to that,

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Speaker 2: it's one. But even so, I think you are right there, Okay,

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Speaker 2: moving along. Blake Live is melting over her husband, Ryan

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Speaker 2: reynolds spicy summer body. So Blake Lively took the social

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Speaker 2: he posted a picture of himself wearing a sleeveless shirt

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Speaker 2: showing off his biceps the pictures of on Naudie gossip

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Speaker 2: without knowing what he was posting. Yes, he's sitting on

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Speaker 2: a bench. He looks adorable, but he has no sleeves

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Speaker 2: and we can see his amazing arms. Blake saw it

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Speaker 2: and captioned it caution extra spicy. These two got married

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Speaker 2: in twenty twelve. Proud parents of daughters James Andes and Betty.

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Speaker 2: They have a fourth child, but they secretly welcomed earlier

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Speaker 2: this year. We don't know the name of that baby yet.

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Speaker 2: But I like that these two tease each other. They

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Speaker 2: make fun of each other, they rip each other, and

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Speaker 2: they also point out how hot each other really is.

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Speaker 2: Do you like this couple? Donnie Oh?

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Speaker 3: I love these two words constantly for their birthday. I

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Speaker 3: think it's Ryan for every year on Blake's birthday. He

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Speaker 3: always cuts out like a picture of her in which

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Speaker 3: is their happy birthday, but mostly him, and it's him

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Speaker 3: in the picture going happy Birthday.

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Speaker 1: Blake, And it's just funny. They love the pope fund

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Speaker 3: It's made up, Lisa. It's ninety ten, sweetie, I'm fit

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Speaker 2: Lisa Renner it's on the Real Wives. No, that's that important.

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