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We're on tentionin XL 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:19.240 Amjaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube Hall of Famer Tony Vaselli 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:23.360 with us as always, Jags analyst Jeff Loghman stepping in. 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.320 It's a home game for both of you, guys, and 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:28.200 good afternoon, Tony doing good. 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:32.560 No PD today, he's uh traveling. Well. We might have 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.800 him on the phone in the second hour. Just yeah, No, 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.240 I mean word is he was afraid to come in 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:43.200 because you know, he doesn't like dissecting watses very much. 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:45.959 I think that he likes that more than wins. 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:46.560 I think. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.440 I'm being sarcastic JP. This is he was. He is 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.200 very sad that he can't be here with us today 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:59.440 because he he enjoys pointing out all the problems. Well, logs, 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:01.559 there were a lot of problems. That's the issue. 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:02.080 Now. 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:03.200 I'll say this. 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:07.160 The last two weeks they've lost by a combined seven points. However, 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:11.280 they've lost and it just feels a little uneasy. 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.280 This guy is falling, is it. 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:16.680 I can tell you there's a lot of things not 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.160 to be happy about, but I think the majority of 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.880 them are fixable. But challenging to fix, I think is 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:27.440 a good way to put it. That's a AM. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.680 I am I being kind? No, I mean the way 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:30.920 I would say it is. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:32.920 Because I don't want to come off as being a 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.440 guy that's just wearing the teal colored glasses here. 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:43.840 That's Tony we call a happy hour. The The reality 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.280 is this, You're not gonna do anything even if you 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.600 make the playoffs if you don't play better. And I 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:55.000 think some of it is absolutely fixable, and some of 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.680 it is reared its ugly head because of injuries and 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:02.040 you know, he scratching things and we'll go through the 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.640 you know, the misd assignments, the turnovers, everything else. I mean, 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.400 so this team has to start from ground zero of like, 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.280 let's start the game by not beating ourselves. We're not 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.640 good enough. And really no team in the NFL is 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.680 good enough where you beat yourself. And this team the 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.760 last two weeks has beat itself with turnovers, with missed 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.959 dessignments and just poor play. So you and I think 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.919 that's what Jeff's talking about. That is that fixable. Absolutely, 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.720 those are all fixable things. I mean, if they fix 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:33.160 like half of them, they win. Sure, you think, I mean, 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.880 who knows, but go in with the mindset no good 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:41.680 team in the history of this league consistently wins. When 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.880 you beat yourself, when you have stupid penalties, stupid mistakes, 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.680 misd assignments are killing this lea killing this team. We're 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.960 gonna leading to some of the leading to some of 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:56.400 the turnovers, frankly, but then you go back. I also 0:03:56.480 --> 0:04:00.240 think like we are a We're a good team. I 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.520 mean that. I said that two weeks ago after we 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.560 beat Houston. Going into these two games, I feel like 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.040 we're a good team. I feel like we can compete 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.640 with anyone in the AFC. That I have not changed 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:12.680 my thoughts there at all. Now it's a bigger challenge 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.680 because of the injuries we've we've had. However, I also 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.080 think sometimes when you win and the teams we were 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.680 playing and guys were making plays and the ball was 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:23.719 bouncing airways at times, but they were playing good football, 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:30.719 it also causes you to overlook some systemic issues. And 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.119 I think this team has some systemic issues that's gonna 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.560 that's gonna be a challenge for them to win in January, 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.040 and that is controlling the line of scrimmage. 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:42.559 Yeah, and trending in the wrong direction in some key 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:43.320 areas well. 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.640 Defensively, they're in the wrong direction. I think they had 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.480 kind of been what they are all year up front 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:48.080 on offense. 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.520 Yeah that's fair, but here but here's here's the issue. 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:57.040 Your backs are now hurt, and then right with okay, 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.040 the the the issues up front still being there, it 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.240 makes it look even worse. And now also your quarterback's hurt. 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.880 You lost a wide receiver and your best wide receiver, 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.800 so now you've got to lean into other areas. And 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.120 the problem is right now this team is having a 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:16.200 hard time leaning on those other areas. And defensively, they're 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:20.000 not playing the way that they did earlier in the 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.640 year to where they were jam up against the run 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.440 and then finding a way to get it done against 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.040 the pass, and one of the best teams in the 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.720 league at one point on third down defense, and right 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.760 now they're not stopping and running. The last time I 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:37.960 checked Joe Flacco and Jake Browning, we're not exactly up 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:39.320 rush alan quarterbacks. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:40.599 They're the backups. 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.440 I mean, it's the fourth quarterback of the year for 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.520 the Browns and Flacco was on the couch three weeks 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.159 ago watching football at his mom's house. 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:50.440 So literally, that part of it for me is very concerning. Well, 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.520 I mean I think, I mean, this is game seven. 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.760 I believe that we have averaged under four yards and 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.880 carry on the ground offensively. And here's what happens when 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:02.400 that becomes a trend. 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.480 It was the lowest total output of the season, by 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.240 the way, fifty eight yards rushing. 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.880 And if you take away Trevor Lawrence's three rushes for 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.160 eleven yards, the backs average seven you know, two point 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:16.080 seven five, two point seven six yards per carry. And 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:20.000 what you're seeing, which is super concerning, is I think 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.039 there's a complete lack of faith to run the ball 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:26.400 between the tackles from our play callers, I mean press 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.440 Taylor and then obviously Doug's part of that as well. 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:30.240 You look at everything we do it it has to 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.760 be you know, some kind of pin and pole play, 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:38.480 get outside misdirection with the wham, but nothing we don't 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:42.440 line up and run downhill. And what that is now 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.279 doing is influencing how we called the game. And we 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:49.240 had fifty pass attempts, only seventeen called running plays. We 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.360 had fifty three call play passing places because Trevor scramble 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.520 three times with a quarterback with a high ankle, spring 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.400 with a quarterback with the hikeel Sprain and how many 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.599 times was he sacked? Four times? So actually, I'm sorry 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:05.240 we called fifty seven pass plays. That's not ideal. We 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.880 called seventeen run plays. It was third in less than 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.880 a yard and we're an empty shotgun. 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:12.440 Now. 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.240 Everyone could say press Taylor this, Press Taylor that, and 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.000 I said it this morning. I'll say it again now. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.920 As an offensive lineman, you have to earn the right 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:24.480 and build confidence in your play caller that they can 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.440 call the ball, call the run, and you can go 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:30.160 get a yard. And somebody tell me and JP, you 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:33.680 know this, there's not a bigger apologist for this offense 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.440 line than me, and I always will back those guys. 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:41.119 But reality's reality, Jeff. When you can't get a yard 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.920 in the NFL and you can, I watch how Press 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.400 is calling plays. Now, tell me how many things we 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:50.880 call between the tackles downhill, wind up and run inside 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:54.400 outside zone, or run power and just go downhill. We 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:55.440 don't even try it. 0:07:56.000 --> 0:08:02.400 Third tried it. It goes backwards, you know. And give 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.600 you a perfect example of there was one run play 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.680 that really stuck out in my mind. Yes, Antonio will 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:11.280 probably remember this one very well, and that Shatley at 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.240 left guard is trying to pull. 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.800 First play of the second No, yeah, I think it's 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:16.320 the first play of. 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.560 The second half, okay, And so you're trying to get 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:22.160 Shatley front side, get an extra blocker over there to 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.920 the front side, and all of a sudden, you got 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.920 a defensive tackle, which look, Jim Schwartz's defenses, they're taught 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:29.720 to get up the field. 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.080 That's what they do. And you know that, okay, you 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:33.840 know that there's. 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:38.520 Penetration and to to the point where he literally the 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:43.240 penetrator knocks Fortner into Shatlee and then that's the that's 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:47.120 the minus five or minus six yard game that ETN had. 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.800 And it's like, how can you run the ball if 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:55.360 you're gonna have that kind of battle result at the 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:57.160 line of scrimmage, I mean, you just you got to 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.640 be better than that. And if you're not going to 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.560 be better than that, then you go the route of 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:04.520 what I think Press Taylor is doing right now, which 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.719 is just saying not even going to try to run it, 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:07.839 We're just gonna go ahead and throw it. 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:09.960 Let's spread it out and throw it down the field. 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.920 But that's problematic. Oh yeah, that is the when I 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:17.680 say systemic problems, I think we overlook because when you're winning. 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:19.920 I'm not saying the coaches do. I think they've I mean, 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.760 but it's us covering the game. And you know, Jeff 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.640 and I probably less because we watch the tape and 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.719 talk about it after each game. But just like as 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:30.480 a fan or a casual observer, even covering the team, 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.280 when you're winning. You know, I say it all the time. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.199 Winning is like the great gravy at Thanksgiving. It can 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:37.880 take a dry piece of turkey and make it really 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.640 dang good if you throw a little stuffing of mass 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.440 Medale's around it. And winning is that gravy. It makes 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.880 everything better. But in a gravy, you can't figure out 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:49.320 what's underneath of it. That's that's exact. Great. But but 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:53.520 now you look at you're in December, it gets cold, 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.720 it gets harder. You're fighting for playoff. I mean, we 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.080 are playing a team yesterday that's in the playoff race, 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.800 fighting for their lives too, and now you're gonna get in. 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.360 I believe this team will still win the division. I 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.360 still think they're the best team in the division. So 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:09.720 you're gonna get a home playoff game. But if you 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:14.000 can't run the ball in the playoffs or stop the run, 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:15.840 it is really hard to advance. 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.079 Let's we'll get back to the offense and just a 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.520 little bit in Trevor Lawrence's performance. Well, let's touch on 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:25.880 that defense again. And yeah, it doesn't slow down this 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.120 week with the Ravens coming to town and the best 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.080 rushing offense in the National Football League led by the 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.160 quarterback a dual threat in Lamar Jackson. 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:34.320 Well, first of. 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.240 All, the Jaguars haven't done a very good job lately 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:41.480 against the run. And then you add in the communication issues. 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.520 I mean, you had three explosive plays in that ball 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:47.600 came yesterday that I mean, we're like that when you 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.080 watch the plate went, who's supposed to cover that guy? 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:52.360 And that's a problem. 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:57.640 And from the Najoku first third and one, which, oh, 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:01.320 by the way, third and one, Cleveland Browns lined up 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.559 to run the ball, okay, and you're taking it seriously, 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.880 and then he hit a big play, right, That's kind 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.640 of what you want your offense to be able to do. Okay, 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.920 But you can't do that because nobody's gonna line up 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.200 and literally stack the box and then play you like 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:19.679 the Cleveland Browns or the Jaguars played the Cleveland Browns 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.199 and and and we'll get into all who was responsible. 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.240 But I mean those three big plays, you know, two 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:29.000 plays in Najoku and then uh, what was the other 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.480 one to uh the wide receiver. 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:36.480 Eighteen the Tillman, Yeah, Tennessee till me. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.560 No, I don't think it was Tillman. Tillman was nineteen. 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:43.080 I think it was a different guy rarely used, like 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:44.480 third team wide receiver. 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:51.520 Yeah, bell hit sorry, And so like wait a minute, 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.199 and uh, you know. 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:57.160 It's pretty easy to solve some of these problems. I mean, 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.360 it's just do your job. And that's kind of been 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.360 an issue that's popped up a little bit and then 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.240 they solved it and then now it's rearing its head again. 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:11.920 Well it's week fifteen like issues. And I understand that. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.040 And you know, just like last week against the Cincinnati 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:18.360 Bengals with Jamar Chase. Okay, first of all, you didn't 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.600 have the right personnel on the field, and then you 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.440 were trying to figure out what do we do with 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:24.200 the wrong personnel and. 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.720 All the time out probably idea I don't. 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.480 Know, And so Cisco's trying to get somebody lined up 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.520 on a wide receiver on the far side of the field, 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:33.959 which you know, you'd like to have Cisco as a 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.000 deep middle player to maybe save a touchdown there to 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.400 Jamar Chase once Jamar Chase got past Tyson Campbell, but 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.360 it didn't happen. And so those are the things that 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.559 as a defense, you know, because here's the thing. The 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:50.680 Jaguars offense has a set of objectives, okay, and it's 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.400 called their offensive command. Number one, protect the ball. Number 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.880 two's create explosives. Number three is be great situational offense. 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.560 So as a defense, you're trying to prevent all of that. Okay, 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.560 well take the ball away. Okay, you did that. Check 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.240 number two, Uh, stop explosives. 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:08.160 Didn't do that? 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:12.320 Oh okay, number three, be a great situational d didn't 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:17.000 accomplish that, you know. So I'm this defense and this offense. 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.960 They've got to change the direction that they're going because 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.480 last year at this time they were ascending and right 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.400 now I think they're floundering a little. 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:28.720 Bit plenty ahead. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.520 We'll come back in a moment and get back to 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.560 the offensive performance. 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And 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.160 then just in general, we all have to communicate better. 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:55.640 We have to be on the same page. We have 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.840 to play together and just do the little things. 0:14:58.880 --> 0:14:59.000 You know. 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:00.480 I think we're over the loo in some of. 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.840 The details, and I think that's where some of the 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:03.480 stuff's going off. 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:09.360 That is the quarterback Trevor Lawrence after the game yesterday 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.520 in Cleveland, a Jaguars loss thirty one, twenty seven and 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.760 welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:19.640 Loans on ten toinexl AM, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:23.040 YouTube JP, Shadrick Hall of Famer, Tony Vasseli, Jeff Logoman 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.360 and then in the second hour Pete Prisco scheduled to 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.040 join us over the phone. We'll keep it real as 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.320 we always do, and fanatics, fan questions come join us 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.640 at Mister Chubby's Wings and Panavitra Beach. We are here 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:40.040 until six o'clock rehashing because we must. A Jaguars loss 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:45.400 to Cleveland. Miscommunications, Trever Lawrence talking about I mean, what 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:46.840 are we talking about? 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:46.960 Me? 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.480 Let me come on. There's another way to say that. 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.800 I think that Trevor, and I'm not saying he's without 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.240 blemish or without sin. I don't mean ultimately, I watch 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:59.200 the tape and I have theories and I can make 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.120 some assumption. Well, we love to hear your series, but 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:06.840 I don't think it's miscommunication. I think it's called a 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.000 misdassignment or a mental error. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:12.960 I mean that's what at least that's what we used 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.400 to call them. 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:21.800 Somebody screwed up. And it is clear on certain situations 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:26.760 that Trevor thinks someone's in a zag and they zig 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:32.360 look just to keep it as simple as possible, like 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.240 perfect the interception in the red zone, by the way, 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:38.920 it's I believe it's first in tent on that play 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:43.120 as well, if I'm not mistaken. It's a Calvin's running 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.760 arounte and Trevor I think, believes he's gonna sit it 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:49.880 down at twelve yards and Calvin breaks it off like 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:53.400 a slant by the way, into covering almost like a 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.320 post round, like a skinny. 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:59.760 Post but a very nonchalant doesn't even get his head 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:01.280 back post route. 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:03.440 But and it's in the coverage. This is why I'm 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:07.960 pretty positive that it was the wrong route and Trevor's 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.399 thrown on time, He's thrown to a spot and the 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:11.120 guy's not there. 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.600 Much like, let's go back real quick before we go 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.800 to the next play from yesterday. You go back to 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.520 the Bengals game when Trevor got stepped on. 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:21.000 That's right, Parker Washington. 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.520 He was expecting Parker Washington to do something and he 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.359 was unloading the ball and then had to stop it 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:32.240 because Parker Washington was not decisive in what was being 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:33.080 asked of him. 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.280 Okay, now we're back to yesterday. Yeah, I mean those 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.359 are example. I mean, on this one, I don't know. 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.400 I mean, there's a post. I'm not sure what it's 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.760 first down and ten again, I believe, and I'm not 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:47.040 sure why Trevor even throws it. I think he believes 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:50.040 the backside safety can't get there. He throws it like 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.560 it's going to be a skinny post and work vertical. 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:57.000 Zay breaks it more of a traditional post kind of 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.159 breaks it more towards the middle of the field, and 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.280 it leads to an interception. I think that one might 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.120 be on Trevor. Yeah, that's why I'm saying, I don't 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.800 know if it's Trevor back. I had to guess. Yeah, 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.840 me too, So I have no idea, but just I mean, 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:12.879 and you can even see you see it at times, 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:14.680 and I've noticed it the last couple of weeks where 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.639 you know, sometimes we see Trevor and maybe it is 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.640 Trevor sometimes that the ball is just way off target. Yeah, 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.040 I believe a number of those times is the depth 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.119 of the route is not correct because Trevor's throwing to 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.320 a spot on timing based on depth of route, like 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.880 each of these routes have like it's a twelve yard out, 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.159 it's an eighteen yard comeback. Well, if you all of 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:38.639 a sudden take that eighteen yard comeback and shorten it 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.600 at fifteen, you've changed the timing. Or if you take 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:45.680 a twelve yard out and you run it at nine yards, 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.840 the quarterbacks throwing to a twelve yard out, I mean, 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:50.520 that's just simple football. 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.760 It's you got to be precise, that's right, and you've 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:54.959 got to be consistent and you got to be dependable 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:58.560 to be able to function in an NFL offense. So 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.600 let me go to the other interception, which was down 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:06.760 the sideline. Okay, Trevor's got pressure Okay, coming up the middle, 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.240 he's got to get rid of the ball. 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:09.120 Okay. 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.440 So if you guys are playing quarterback and you know 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:15.960 that pressure's coming, your first thought is I've got to 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:16.879 get rid of this ball. 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:17.280 Correct. 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:21.360 Sure, Okay, So you're gonna really quick process in your 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.440 mind where you need to get rid of the ball. 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.719 At more than likely, you guys are probably gonna decide 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:31.200 to throw it somewhere where maybe one of your guys 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.880 has got a really good chance of beating the defender 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:35.280 one on one to make a play. 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:39.119 Correct, all you can go further, Jeff, not only I'm 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.679 gonna go. I'm gonna go somewhere where at worst I 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.720 got a fifty to fifty ball, fifty fifty ball against where, 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:46.840 And by then then I'm gonna figure out who's my 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.600 best guy should be? My best guy should be fifty 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:51.800 fifty ball should be. And I'm going there because I 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.680 got pressure, I know I got man coverage. I'm gonna 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:56.200 I'm gonna go take a shot. 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.280 All right, Well, here's the play. Trevor gets the ball 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.840 and here comes pressure the middle. He knows that Calvin 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.640 Ridley is out on the right side, and he's got 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:08.600 single coverage and he's gonna launch it. Okay, Now let's 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.120 focus in on Calvin Drought. Calvin comes off the line 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:14.399 of scrimmage, runs vertical, bends it to the outside to 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.440 go vertical once again, but the defender. 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:20.920 Stays on top. Okay, that's fine, but you still have 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:21.400 to go. 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:25.520 Okay, Well, he takes it from out of fifth gear 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.240 and puts it into fourth gear or third gear, even 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:30.120 slows down a little bit. 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:31.400 Well, the ball's on the way. 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.080 And then once he realizes the ball is on the way, 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.639 now he's trying to catch back up again. Well, the 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:39.280 defender's on top and makes an easy interception. If he 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.879 had just kept running, in my opinion, he would have 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:45.800 at the least made it tough for the defender to 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:49.760 make an interception and at best maybe he makes a 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:52.480 play or maybe he get pass interference yeah, or gets 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:53.320 a flag. 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:54.600 Right finish the play. 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:59.320 And my point is is that this year a lot 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:01.600 of people have asked the question about about then I'm 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.160 not just focusing on one guy because it's across the board, 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:07.600 not across the board, but it's it's you got issues 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:10.840 here and there. But Calvin Ridley needs to be more 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:15.320 dependable and more reliable and more consistent. I mean, if 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:18.400 you're going to be that guy, that's what you've got 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:21.159 to be. And I've noticed over the last couple of 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:24.960 weeks that they're trying to not this past game, but 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:27.160 in weeks prior, they were really trying to, I think, 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:31.760 keep him engaged and involved with the reverses and such, 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:34.760 to keep his you know, keep them involved in the game, 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:36.800 because I mean there was games where he just didn't 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:38.040 have a lot of targets, and I think part of 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.680 the reason why you're not going to target a guy 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:43.560 if you can't depend on them. This game, he had 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:47.679 thirteen targets, four catches, a Jones fourteen targets, five catches. 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:50.640 That's twenty seven targets only nine receptions between your two 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:54.359 top guys, which is a terrible catch percentage. I mean, 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:55.480 let's look at Evan. 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:58.119 Ingram are they are they our top guys? 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:01.440 Well, I mean, receiver wise, Ingram's the guy I think, 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:05.120 I mean the offense. I mean this real quick, Evan okay, 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:09.280 twelve targets, eleven receptions. Okay, And I'm not saying that 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:11.119 that's the kind of number that you expect out of 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:12.960 your top receivers every week. But I mean, if you 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:16.240 look at the top receivers in the league, their catch 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:20.360 percentage is much higher, oh yeah, than where it's at 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:23.440 for the Jaguars wide receiver. And that has to be better. 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:28.199 And it's exactly what Trevor's talking about. Trevor's talking about dependability, 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:30.480 you know, and we've got to be accountable. And look, 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:33.080 he's trying to own some of the responsibility himself and 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:35.920 making sure that he's deflecting it and owning some. 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:36.520 Of it himself. 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:41.639 But here's the problem when your quarterback starts talking about 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:42.360 that stuff. 0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:45.439 It's been going on for a little while, yeah, and 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:46.080 it's a problem. 0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:48.840 We remember early in the season when Ridley had the 0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:51.520 drop and then the next drive had a false start, 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:53.920 and then he later in the game had another drop 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:56.880 and had a second false start, and it just kind 0:22:56.880 --> 0:23:00.719 of snowballed for him in that game alone. You know, 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.480 in a game like this, same idea. Right on the 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:07.040 Parker Washington touchdown, on the other side of the play, 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:10.679 it looked like like looking at the referee on. 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:12.560 The side, I think he was arguing with the referee 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:14.439 because if if you go back to that play, that 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:22.160 was the play that the Uhmarius, None, that's Notarius Darius Smith, 0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:29.880 thank you. Zadarius Smith is off sides because he thinks 0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:33.399 we're we've moved. He's standing in the neutral zone and 0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:35.679 somehow the official doesn't call the fight. 0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:39.520 Which is terrible because he's this is worse than Tony. 0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:43.840 He's standing in the neutral zone. Yes, and and I 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:45.960 think Darius Tony is off side. This is at least 0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:48.520 is way better. This is a much yes, much more obvious. 0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:50.560 And I think Calvin, which I'm not saying he should be, 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:52.359 he should just go run, go run the it's a 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:55.800 free play if you whatever is I think it's the 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:57.320 same play. He's arguing with the official. 0:23:57.359 --> 0:23:59.760 Why the officials not going to that's what the job 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:01.440 just decription is of a coach. 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:04.280 Yeah, it's a lot going on, I mean, but let's 0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:08.199 go back to I mean, how do they fix it? 0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:10.720 By the way, real quick, On that play, Trevor didn't 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.440 throw to the right guy but turned out all right, 0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:17.440 I mean, very lucky, very lucky because that ball should 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.280 have been intercepted. But Evan Ingram was the open guy. 0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:23.479 He literally leaks out late to the right and and 0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.080 it's it's a walk in touchdown and an easy throw 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:26.560 for Trevor. 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:28.440 He Trevor missed that one. Well, he didn't want Evan 0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:29.760 to have three touchdowns. 0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:33.040 On Yeah, that's probably spread. Hey, how do they figure 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:35.560 this out though? This communication issue? Is it too late 0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:38.160 in this week fifteen? Again, like, well, you know there's 0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:39.320 four big games left. 0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:41.720 Well, we've talked about this in the past. I mean, 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:46.040 you have there's two solutions. Either players have, I mean, 0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:47.800 and both can be you can do both at the 0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:52.760 same time. Number One, it's your job. Know the playbook, 0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:57.679 be accountable to your teammates and to the to the 0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:01.720 organization you're getting paid to play for football. Know what 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.560 you are supposed to do. If you don't understand and ask, 0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:12.840 it's just simple work, study, film, practice, repeat. It's not 0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:17.119 there's no secret formula. Like these teams who are on 0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:20.320 the same page, they do something different. So it starts 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:25.080 with player of accountability, Trevor, all the receivers, offensive line, 0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:29.520 player accountability. Know your job and do your job. Secondly, 0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.520 I think it's the job of the coaching staff. I 0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:34.359 think you've got to look at say are we asking 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:36.680 too much? Because at the end of the day, your 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:38.679 job as a coach to put your players in a 0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:41.480 position to succeed and only and give them what they 0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:44.240 can handle. And I'll say the same thing on defense. 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.800 If you're having busts every game where, guys, that's not fair. 0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:49.680 Not every game, but if you're having busts that are 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:53.719 costing you games, either you have guys who aren't studying, 0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:57.840 preparing and are ready, or you're giving them too much 0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:01.359 and you have to simple fy it so guys can 0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:05.240 play fast. And I think so I think if I'm 0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:07.359 you know, if you're pressed tailor and you look at 0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:10.480 the game plan, do you take a step back and say, Okay, 0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:12.119 what are we going to put in? Because obviously we 0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:15.359 can't handle. And at the same time, I mean, this 0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:17.880 is a very simple relationship the players. You have to 0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:21.200 earn the confidence and the trust of the coaching staff. Sure, yeah, 0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:24.639 that's your job, and so they need to go And 0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:26.880 Trevor said it best look in the mirror, have an 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:30.960 honest assessment, saying getting am I doing everything I need 0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:34.679 to to be prepared for Sunday? And am I doing 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.359 my job on Sunday? And if not, you need to 0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:38.160 change those things. 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.320 Well, there's a couple solutions from a coaching standpoint. Okay, 0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.080 once you look at it and you say, okay, are 0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.359 we asking too much? And if the answer is no, okay, 0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:47.639 then you go to the player and see if you 0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:49.359 can fix it. And then if all of a sudden 0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.280 you can't fix it, then you go to another player 0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.480 to try to fix it. I mean, it's just how 0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.399 it works. I mean it's you know, you got to 0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:05.320 be able to have production to pendability, availability, reliability, accountability, production. 0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:08.560 A lot of abilities. That's a long list of abilities. Well, 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.280 and you know, when you look at the offense, it's 0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:16.440 a it's an interesting dilemma they have because they're beat 0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.200 up up front. I mean we're on our fourth left tackle. 0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:23.800 I mean maybe you know, I know, there's the way 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:27.040 it sounds like that he was cleared. Yeah, there's no 0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.960 structural damage that sounds like. And in the I guess 0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:33.960 there's some there's a possibility they might get Walker a 0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:38.200 little bit, so that would that's a good start. I mean, 0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:40.320 you need you always want your best players out there. 0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:45.119 But you look at the trend. We're on six to 0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:47.439 seven whatever games it is, eight games where we can't 0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.240 you know, we're having a hard time rushing at the 0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:52.679 length of the football. I don't think the formula for 0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.240 this team is to have fifty seven pass plays in 0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:59.159 seventeen rushes. That's not sustainable. So now you have to 0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:03.000 think about we're not going to find brand new personnel. 0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:06.720 I mean Louke Luke Fortner is a second year young 0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:12.480 player who is not playing physical. He does not move people. 0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:17.000 He's a position blocker. That's a problem if you want 0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:21.439 to run downhill. Brandon Sheriffs has had all kinds of 0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.479 lower body angers and angles at this point of his career. 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.439 He is not a smash mouth, hand in the ground, 0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:31.080 grind it, move you off the ball. He's very athletic, 0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:35.000 he's very smart. He gets like he's a good stable force. 0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.359 But that's just and so I think if you're press, 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.520 you know that you're not changing that unless you're willing 0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:43.800 to change personnel. If those if that's your center and 0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.920 that's your right guard. Got a rookie right tackle who's 0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.840 very athletic, good player. I didn't think he was his 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.360 best on Sunday. I've seen him play much better coming in, 0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:57.640 but he's a solid player. You got questions that left guard. 0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:00.920 Shatley's a guy who's been around and you got huge 0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:03.360 questions at left tackle because Blake Canser is your fourth guy. 0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:07.080 And so you get to step back and say, we're 0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.040 going into a game this week against If you think 0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:15.400 Cleveland was physical, Baltimore's front seven is two X is physical. 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:19.360 I saw a number today real quick, the forty nine Ers. 0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:21.800 I think their point differential this year is like plus 0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:27.280 two eighty and the second place team and point differential 0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:32.560 are the Ravens are like plus one sixty five point differential. Boy, gad, 0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.440 that's unbelievable good I mean for I mean both numbers. 0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:37.440 I mean the San Francisco one is just maybe I'm 0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:40.720 a little high on that, but they're clearly that is crazy. 0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:43.920 Maybe you can confirm that, JP, but I'm pretty sure 0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.000 that's what the numbers were of. And I saw that, 0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.240 and I was like, oh my gosh, because the first 0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:50.520 one that I saw was the forty nine Ers. And 0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.480 then I said, all right, well let's see who would 0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:55.880 be in second place. San franc at won seventy five 0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:59.400 net points and Dallas at one eighty eight now by 0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:02.360 the way, plus yeah overall net. 0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:03.920 Point after blowing them out last night. 0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:09.440 After Baltimore, Baltimore's yeah, right, you're you're in the right neighbors. 0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:16.720 But your point is the Jaguars are twenty two and 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:17.440 you're But your. 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:20.680 Point is you're Forget about the point, because I think 0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:25.600 it's all valid points. My biggest concern, based on how 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.760 we are playing football right now and watching how at 0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:31.560 least the field from the sense of watching tape and 0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:33.440 watching it live, that Press feels like he has to 0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:35.160 call the game right now, that he can't run the 0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.040 ball and play a physical game offensively. It's not who 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:41.960 they are, well you were now facing. I think this 0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:45.240 is a much better defense. I know Cleveland's numbers I 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:46.800 think are a little bit better. As far as yards 0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:48.720 given up per game, there were number one in Baltimores 0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:52.000 number two. I think Baltimore's better because they're better. I mean, 0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.880 they don't have Miles Garrett, but they have about three 0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:57.400 or four guys who can rush the passer and get 0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:59.160 after it. And this is a physical game. So it 0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.760 would be very interesting how do you neutralize that defensive 0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:05.320 front that you know is in me physical when that 0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:08.200 really isn't you're calling card right now as a team. 0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:10.560 We'll dig into that a little bit later on next 0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.400 week's game against the Baltimore Ravens. Sent up your furry 0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:16.160 friend for the Jaguars Official for Legged Fan Club for 0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.960 Pets presented by Forever Vets Animal Hospital. 0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:20.800 Your pet receive access. 0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:25.600 To exclusive merchandise, events and sweepstakes throughout the season. 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Putting ahead as we 0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:39.160 recap the Jaguars and the Browns, and we're in the 0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:42.000 final stretch of the regular season, only two home games left. 0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:44.240 Be there as the Jaguars go ahead to head with 0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:47.280 the Ravens this coming Sunday on Sunday Night Football. 0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.760 Grab your teal and help the Jags teal out the stands. 0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:54.040 Get your tickets to Jaguars dot com, slash tickets or 0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.440 called nine oh four six three three two thousand. We're 0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:59.960 on ten to next lam Jaguars dot com, Jaguars YouTube. 0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:03.480 So a couple of things JP, because we have not 0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:09.000 done the show since before the Bengals game a week before, 0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:13.120 because we obviously missed Monday Night. It's good, it's while 0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:18.160 it's been a while. There's a lot of noise chatter 0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:21.240 going on that frankly, you are the cause of this 0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:25.280 two games mean two game losing streaks. Yeah, because uh, 0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:29.160 you decided to jump in prior to the Bengals game, 0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:31.160 where Pete and I had a very good thing going. 0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:36.520 We've been calling wins, locking them, double locking them, and 0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:39.240 we've been right every time. And then all of a sudden, 0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:43.560 as we're leaving and going out the Monday, the week 0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:50.440 prior to the Bengals game, you scream out, triple lock. Yeah, 0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.080 and ever since the triple lock, we have not won 0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.800 a game. It's true. However, I did call the Packers. 0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.160 No one cares, No one cares. It was what it 0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:01.480 helped us out if we if we keep losing, that's 0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.760 not gonna matter. No, but I did call out, so 0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:06.080 we need to figure out. Well, I'm gonna figure this out. 0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:09.959 For JP, I will never lock anything again. Good ever, good, 0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.399 I'm off the locks. It was a one and done. 0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:14.520 I piled on a. 0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:15.880 Little too much. It was a flag. 0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:19.160 It was yeah, it was it was a yeah. I 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:20.560 would have been flagged and probably ejected. 0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:22.239 Yes, it was. So I just want to make sure 0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:26.600 that kind of a bandwagon move. No, it's fair. Triple lock. 0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:31.040 And Jeff, you know like you do exactly and you 0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:33.000 know when you feel it in the moment, like that 0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:35.560 was a bad idea, it's immediately what you said. I 0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.359 immediately told him wh he said. I said that was bad. 0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.440 It's a bad idea. I don't like you doing that. 0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:43.320 And JP, you need to learn. Yeah, well I'm learning. 0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:46.480 I'm gonna go quadruple. 0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:48.840 I had to watch those last two games to Tony, 0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.719 I'm learning, don't worry my. 0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:57.319 Good what so we just served man? Yeah, he tell 0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:58.120 you what I mean. 0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:00.400 Those guys are out there a lot because there's injuries 0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:03.840 in the second area now right. But Campbell Herndon Cisco 0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:05.759 left the game yesterday. 0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:08.480 Jeff, because remind me he was a safety in college, 0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:08.840 wasn't he? 0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:13.640 Yes, he was, well, he played safety and nickel and 0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:16.360 then in this game he played nickel. 0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:20.040 Yeah I knew this, Yeah, he played nickel. And I 0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:22.040 mean it's a small sample size. We saw him in 0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:24.279 camp and we see him a little bit in the 0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:27.440 regular season. But boy, I like, I like what I 0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:29.320 was telling you right now. I mean, I said, training 0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:31.239 camp and he has the injury though that slowed him down. 0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:31.960 This guy's stuck. 0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:36.680 He has great feet, his good speed, he's physical, Like 0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.560 I was like, Okay, not bad. 0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.520 Now, it's a small sample size. You gotta And I'd 0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.520 still at this point rather have Trey Herndon out there 0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.239 because Trey Herndon is in the right spot right time. 0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.759 He might be limited and man coverage it certain in 0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:54.000 certain matchups because but he is physical in the run game. 0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:57.000 You're starting safety next year. Probably he's a great blitzer. 0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:01.239 You're starting safeties next year. And Johnson, Yeah, I mean, 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.960 and and here's the other thing that he can do. 0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:06.400 I mean, he reminds me a lot of Kyle Hamilton, 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:08.960 you know, which is the safety for the Ravens who 0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:12.359 got dinged up I think yesterday. And he's got the 0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:16.839 length and he plays Nickel, and he's you know, most 0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:19.399 people are. I remember the first time I watched Kyle 0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:21.399 Hamilton on film and I was like, there's no way 0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:24.239 that a guy that's got the length like him can 0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.200 play Nickel in the NFL, because that's what he was 0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.120 doing a little bit of in college at Notre Dame. 0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:31.360 And then all of a sudden he gets to the 0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:34.759 NFL and Nickel I'm talking like really good at him, 0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:37.319 and I was like, holy cow, I mean, he's not 0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:40.200 many guys that have a lot of length can have 0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:43.279 the quickness to be able to play Nickel to cover 0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:48.720 a guy like a Christian Kurt and Antonio Johnson. I'm tony, folks, 0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:53.520 this guy is a really, really good acquisition and he's 0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:58.600 got a very bright future. Jaguars defense this week against 0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:02.760 this Ravens offense, Lamar Jackson is the leading rusher by yardage. 0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.239 Edwards punches it in for a touchdown. He got a 0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.560 long stretch of like nine of his ten touchdowns were 0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:10.200 in a five game stretch. Recently he had he's been 0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:10.680 in the end zone. 0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:15.920 The rookiees the rookie is a flowers. Flowers. They got 0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:20.279 a few different but they're missing their best weapon in 0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:24.120 the passing game, and that's Mark Andrews. He's if you 0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:26.480 look it back over the last several years, it dropped tackle. 0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:30.799 He is the He's this, He's the the comfort like 0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.000 the little baby blanket, the binkie. 0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:39.120 For security blanket, security blank that's what what? What was 0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:40.280 just as blanky blanket? 0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:42.120 Right? Well, like I had, like like my kids, like 0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:44.600 your booby or your bubby or whatever you call it. 0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:52.279 I'm sorry, excuse me, Bobby. The world is going on, 0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:54.120 you know what I mean? 0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:58.000 And I think you actually referred to a part of 0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:01.799 the female anatomy. There's something wrong with you, kay on 0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:04.320 this show. I mean I'm not usually here on Mondays? 0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.720 Is that what you guys do? Some different show on Monday, Jeff, 0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:08.560 men have. 0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.280 That body part as well, So like, don't be weird. 0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:17.000 My point is Mark Andrews is the guy that when 0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:19.640 it breaks down or they needed big plays or a 0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.040 big first down, he was the guy that Lamar went to. 0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:23.960 So they're not as good as they were early in 0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:26.279 the season offensively in my opinion, without Mark Andrews. But 0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:28.880 they still have a bunch of weapons, and they've changed 0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:32.480 their offense. This is not the old veer offense that 0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:35.080 Lamar ran for the first what five or six seven 0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:36.759 years of his career. I mean they is, they drop 0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:39.239 they drop back, they throw it around, and he still 0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.320 has the ability obviously to get out of the pocket 0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:43.440 and kill you with his legs. It's a good it's 0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:44.040 a good group. 0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:48.320 And and the biggest change for the big leap in 0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:51.800 offense and Lamar Jackson's performance is their new offensive coordinator, 0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:54.919 Todd Monkinah who is doing a tremendous job. 0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.600 And of course, look, Lamar Jackson just got a new. 0:38:57.440 --> 0:39:00.880 Contract, played well too, and and he he's really taken 0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:05.080 ownership with the offense. And Monkin has really made him 0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.560 take owners I don't say made him, but help get 0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:10.880 him to take ownership of the offense. And I mean 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:12.920 when you listen to Lamar Jackson now talk at the 0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:15.600 podium and I watched a couple of his interviews earlier today. 0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:19.160 It's impressive. I mean, he's very aware, much more than 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:22.200 he was in the past. And you can tell, I 0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:25.799 mean it's he's instead of talking like you know, he's 0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:29.400 in undergraduate school. You can tell that he's up his 0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:33.520 language and quarterback to graduate school or you know, working 0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:34.680 on his doctorate or whatever. 0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:34.880 You know. 0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:36.759 I mean, he's definitely taking a big step. 0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:39.239 Well, that was the big question, you know, in Greg 0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:41.719 Roman's old offense. The reason you heard a lot of 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.600 people say they were in this offense because Lamar can't 0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:48.520 be a traditional drop that guy. He can't operate that way. 0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.400 And Todd Munkins come in and said, well, you're wrong, 0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:54.960 and Lamar is saying you're wrong. I can run a 0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.319 offense more traditional. I can be a pocket passer when 0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.440 need be. And they're point, they're dangerous and they can 0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:04.360 run the ball. They can throw it now, you know. 0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.839 But that doesn't worry me. Their offense isn't my big 0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:12.279 worry JP Okay, are their defense because you have a 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:14.520 front seven that flat gets after you. 0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:18.239 We'll dig into that in the second hour. Coming up 0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:20.360 in just a little bit. 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Trevor and the 0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:58.160 receivers were a little off. 0:40:58.880 --> 0:40:59.880 You know, we had opportunities to. 0:40:59.880 --> 0:41:03.560 Make plays in the first half, didn't Obviously the turnovers, 0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:07.080 you know, are are big and you can't you can't 0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:10.560 do that. You know, we had a little success early 0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.719 run in the football, you know, were some of the 0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:17.040 things he did to keep them off balanced, but just overall, 0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:21.000 just not not enough plays made, you know, too many, 0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:24.279 too many self inflicted wounds. You know that they kept 0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:28.520 us from sustaining drives or you know, staying on the field. 0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:33.479 Sed goes Doug Peterson after the game yesterday and welcome back. 0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:36.839 We're at mister Chubby's Wings at Panavietra Beach until six 0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:40.200 o'clock is Shaguars Happy Hour. JP Shatterick, Tony Boselli, Jeff 0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:43.160 log him and Pete Prisco coming up in our number two. 0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:44.439 He's got plenty to say. 0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:48.000 I'm sure we're on tentionon XLAM Jaguars dot Com Jaguars 0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:50.320 YouTube that was immediately. 0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:54.120 After the game yesterday. Tony yeah, and Doug says something 0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:57.200 that I agree with, but I want to clarify from 0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:59.880 my perspective ways. He says, we did some good things 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:02.640 early in the run game, and you say, well, then 0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:04.720 how do you only have seventeen rushers to your running 0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:09.680 backs and under three yards of carry? And they did 0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:12.720 have some success on two pin and polls and one 0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:18.719 and one wham play. The problem with those plays. Those 0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:22.279 are plays where you because of the formation or you 0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:25.960 catch someone by surprise or the angles that you catch 0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:29.239 them in the right look that just by getting in 0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:33.680 people's way and you know you can it's more position 0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:37.080 and pull type of things you can have success. I 0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.799 don't believe those things are repeatable over the length of 0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:43.360 a sixty minute game, and we saw them try like 0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:45.719 pretty If you look at the first play of the 0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:47.560 second half that Jeff was talking about. They're trying to 0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:49.600 pull and get outside and do stuff like that. But 0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:52.920 because your center is five yards in the backfield, was 0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:56.920 that everyone gets muddled up. You know, they ran a 0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:00.239 very nice wham play, which is you know, the uh 0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:04.520 the wing back traps to tackle or the defensive tackle 0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:06.440 you work up linebackers. They did a nice job and 0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:07.960 they got like seven or eight. They tried to run 0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:12.800 it again, they got zero because like you start recognizing seamless, 0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:18.960 the defense is recognizing yet we're good run teams. What 0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.040 they do is they line up and they say, we're 0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:25.160 gonna run inside zone. We don't think you can stop it. 0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:28.680 And yeah, we'll do it out of different formations and 0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:31.040 different looks to keep you honest and keep you off. 0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:32.759 But we're just gonna line up, put our hand in 0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:34.719 the dirt. We're gonna double you up to the next linebacker. 0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:36.920 Our back's gonna take one cut and we're gonna get 0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:39.000 four yards. We're gonna get three yards, and then by 0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.640 the fourth quarter those are five to six twenty yards. 0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:44.040 And the a couple of the players that they had 0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:47.200 that were successful, they were quick snaps and so they 0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:48.399 caught Cleveland a little bit. 0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:50.400 It's kind of the trick. You had to trick them, right, 0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:51.680 you got a trick. We got to fool them. 0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:55.600 And uh, you know, the one thing that's very difficult 0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:57.440 against the Cleveland Browns is that, you know, when you 0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.439 combo block to try to get up to the next level, 0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:02.960 those line back as flow so fast that if you 0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:08.080 really can't combo block up to that next level. But 0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:11.080 the reality is is that you know, watching that game 0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:12.440 and watching the film. 0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:14.480 You actually can combo block at the next level. Ye 0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:16.080 can take the right if you're really good. 0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:21.440 But watching the Cleveland Browns and watching their two guards, 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:26.879 Wyatt Teller and Joel Botonio, those two guys are really good, 0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:31.240 and I'm talking really good Pro Bowl really like seven 0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:36.040 Pro Bowls between them, and they lost their center, Ethan Posic, 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:41.000 and then their backup center, Nick Harris, was the guy 0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.400 that actually in short yardage and stuff, he plays full 0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:46.520 back for them, so he was lined up and at 0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:48.960 the beginning of the game when Aaron shortyards that touchdown 0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:52.840 to Najoku, he was the full back lined up in 0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:55.400 the backfield. That's not something that's uncommon. He is the 0:44:55.440 --> 0:45:00.480 full back on their depth chart, which is odd your 0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.719 backup centers, you're starting fullback. 0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:04.440 The more you can do, I guess. 0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.520 But I mean that's that's a football team that is 0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:09.359 committed to running the ball, and they do a good 0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:11.360 job and option they had to be committed to running 0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:13.640 the ball over the course of the last number of 0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:17.200 weeks because of all the change at quarterback that they've had. 0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:23.240 And the other thing about that game, watching it, Miles 0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:27.520 Garrett was literally every moment that you watch him, you 0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:29.440 just go you wonder when he's just gonna turn it on, 0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:33.440 because when he turns it on, you can't. 0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:36.200 Stop the guy. But I'll say this, Jeff, if you 0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:39.560 look at the entirety of that game, he did not 0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:41.759 mess up the game. No, he didn't wreck it. He 0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:43.440 did not wreck the game. Now, the Jacks did a 0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:45.560 pretty good job. They did a good plan. I mean 0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:48.400 even the contained them. Even the sack he had in 0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:50.200 the two minute, I mean in the two point play. 0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:52.120 It was after Trevor had to whole it a Yeah, 0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:54.640 it wasn't. It wasn't just now Trevor did a good 0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:56.080 job getting rid of it a couple of times because 0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:59.680 he won. Right, why did we go for two? We 0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:02.319 can talk with another whole hour to go. By the way, 0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:04.839 wait to hold that question until Pete gets on, because 0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:08.120 people will have a field day. I'm just I'd like 0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:08.400 to know. 0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:12.479 I mean, I'm trying to understand that the mentality there. 0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:14.920 I got some theories. I'm not saying they're right, but 0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:16.480 I got some theories. We'll save it for Pete. Yeah, 0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:17.040 save for Pete. 0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:20.600 That's a good Probably a question on why they went 0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:22.720 for it and left it in field goal range too. 0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:25.360 But well, so I got there. There's a couple of 0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:28.160 game situations we'll talk about in the second hour. Yeah, 0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:31.320 the two are there's three. We went for it twice. 0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:36.319 One I know for sure the analytics say to go 0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:39.759 for it down you're talking about two points. Well, I 0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:42.920 to talk about both those situations. And then late in 0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:46.800 the game basically had three forty eight and three timeouts 0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:50.759 you're going for in fourth and six or seven that's 0:46:50.800 --> 0:46:52.960 where they used the time out. They use the timeout, 0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:57.239 but they but is it the right decision to go 0:46:57.320 --> 0:46:59.480 for it there? Or it's punning it away and playing 0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:02.640 defense getting the ball back with the chance to tie it, Well, 0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:04.520 we didn't get it. 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:05.840 And taking a delay again there and punded it and 0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:08.120 they hit a fifty five yard field goal to take 0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:09.960 a ten point lead. We'll get to that. We got 0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:12.319 a whole hour ahead. We're out to Pete Prisco. We 0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:15.200 are live at mister Chubby's Wings and Pana Vitra Beach. 0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:15.719 Come out and. 0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:19.000 Join us until six o'clock. Our one of the books 0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:22.520 Hour to next is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars 0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:23.400 Digital Network. 0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:40.439 It was not one of our cleaner games. 0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:46.440 Too many mistakes, you know, penalties, missed opportunities and miss throws, drops. 0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.240 You know, just not playing sound football. 0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:49.560 You know. 0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:51.839 I think we were just so inconsistent. 0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:55.280 It was hard to get in a rhythm. It feels 0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:57.600 like all the close plays like we didn't make that 0:47:57.680 --> 0:47:59.920 you need to get some momentum back in games, and 0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:01.600 it seemed like all those we just weren't able to 0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:02.120 make today. 0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:06.560 So, you know, we gotta watch this tape and. 0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:08.040 Really learn from it, because there's a lot on there 0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:10.840 that we got to clean up and get better from. 0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:13.279 Who was just walking off to the I just feel 0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:14.200 like we've missed so. 0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:17.000 Many opportunities and left a lot out there and really 0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:20.440 just shut ourselves in the foot over and over. 0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.760 There's the quarterback Trevor Lawrence after the game in Cleveland 0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:26.840 yesterday and welcome back. It's the second hour of Jaguars 0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:30.319 Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings. We are on 0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:34.520 location at Mister Chubby's in Pana Vidra Beach until six 0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:38.560 o'clock tonight. After a Jaguars lost to the Browns, Jake 0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:42.520 p Shadrick, Tony Boselli, Jeff Vlogoman, the Jags rop another, 0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:45.280 this time thirty one twenty seven the final. Trevor Lawrence 0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:48.080 played through the ankle in three, but he also threw 0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:51.360 three interceptions in the game. Calvin Ridley and Say Jones, 0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:55.040 the receivers combined for twenty seven targets and only nine 0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:58.440 catches in the game. The Jags defense had issues as well. 0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.560 They gave up nearly four hundred yards Joe Flacco over 0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:05.120 three hundred yards passing, but the Jaguars did not lose 0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:05.600 ground in. 0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:06.959 The AFC South Race. 0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:09.160 A game up in the Colts and Texans four to 0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:12.440 go Sunday Night football this week for the Jaguars for 0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:14.920 the first time since two thousand and eight. The Ravens 0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:17.120 come to town with the number two defense in the 0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:20.160 NFL great against the past, Number one in secks. They 0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:22.919 run the daylights out of it, Lamar Jackson and all 0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:27.000 the rest. Pete Prisco joining us now CBS Sports Senior 0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:31.800 Rider for the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. Good afternoon, Pete. 0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:37.920 How are you there's pet We can't hear you here, Pete. Sorry, Pete, 0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:40.279 you can't you're Is that a good thing? 0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:42.359 Yeah? It can be a good thing when you can't 0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:45.680 hear Pete. I sometimes like putting him on you. So 0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:49.680 we'll have to work on some technical difficulties here. But 0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:51.680 I can't wait to hear what Pete has to see. 0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:53.359 He looked good. I was gonna give him the floor 0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:55.920 and almost give him the whole segment. Just say, Pete, 0:49:56.239 --> 0:49:57.279 unload on us. 0:49:57.400 --> 0:49:59.279 All right, hey, real quick, I want to go ahead 0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:02.040 and say this Peak. We haven't we haven't said anything 0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:07.320 about this. I give Trevor a lot of credit. You 0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.439 talking about a quarterback coming back playing from a high 0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:11.160 ankle spring. 0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:14.160 I mean, how do you do that? 0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:18.240 I mean, folks, high ankle sprayings are typically anywhere between 0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:23.959 three to six weeks of inactivity of being inactive, and 0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:27.080 he was able to come back and play in. 0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:29.960 Six days, six days. 0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:33.279 I mean that that's insane and and just and to 0:50:33.320 --> 0:50:36.160 be mobile in six days, how do you do that? 0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:40.759 He has special healing powers. Wow, and he's gumby. Yeah, 0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:41.319 that's the thing. 0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:45.520 I mean, he's He's done it multiple times Detroit. Last year, 0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:47.239 you got twisted up and came back in the game. 0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:49.640 Obviously we don't happened with the knee thing this year. 0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:52.239 And coming back to play in a really short week 0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:55.399 and now somehow gets out of this one Monday night. 0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:57.360 You'd have thought he's done for you know, four or 0:50:57.360 --> 0:51:00.440 five weeks at least, and then now he's jumping buildings 0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:01.520 with a single bounce. 0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:06.440 And let me, speaking from an offensive line men's perspective, 0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:12.879 I can't even describe how far that goes when your 0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:16.840 quarterback has that mentality and that toughness and guts it 0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:19.399 out and is out there like as an offensive line 0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:21.680 you're like, that's the dude I want to bat for, 0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:23.920 That's the dude I want to go to war with. 0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:29.160 Because this isn't some prima donna or different. You know, 0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:32.239 he's a tough dude who wants he wants to play ball, 0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:33.200 he wants to win. 0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:36.520 And what you'd like to have is for those And 0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:38.960 we had mentioned this in our broadcast at the beginning, 0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:42.120 that you want those around him to elevate their level 0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:46.200 of play to make it easier to help him, and 0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:49.239 I don't think that happened. Well, now let's talk about 0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:52.439 some guys who I thought they'd played pretty well, having 0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:53.520 Ingram great day. 0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:55.960 Sude it. He's having really good days back to back. 0:51:57.760 --> 0:52:01.600 Twelve targets, eleven catches, ninety five two touchdowns for Ingram. 0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:04.600 And I'm gonna give two guys that wasn't always pretty 0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:08.960 but not easy duty. Before Ezra got hurt, agave him 0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:11.680 hadn't played one snap and foot in the NFL at 0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:14.600 left tackles going out there and blocking Miles Garrett. Now 0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:16.160 did they help him yeat, But he was also out 0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:17.960 there a couple times one on one before he got hurt. 0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:20.799 In fact, the first touchdown he is one on one 0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:24.080 when he twists his knee, but he's one on one 0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:25.920 with Miles Garrett. Miles puts a great move on it, 0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:28.520 and he sits it down and protects Trevor's backside and 0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:30.160 allows to touch and it happen. And then you have 0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:34.399 a guy in Blake hands who's sitting on the sideline 0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:36.799 and I'm sure SA getting hurt. 0:52:36.840 --> 0:52:39.920 Are He's like, are you kidding me? And he went 0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:42.680 out there and he was it pretty all the time. No, 0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:44.399 but did he go fight his tail off? 0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:47.400 Fought? He fought, And you know what, Miles, Garrett did 0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:49.080 not mess up the game. Miles. 0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:53.680 We didn't lose because we couldn't block those guys up front. 0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:57.600 We didn't lose because Trevor was getting harassed the entire game. 0:52:58.040 --> 0:53:00.200 We didn't win because we didn't run the balls as 0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:02.440 a lineman, Tony, the worst block you can have is 0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:06.360 what we call the lookout oh my goodness, which you 0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:08.880 just you get beat right away and you're beat clean 0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:12.239 and your quarterback doesn't have a chance. You want to 0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:15.439 at least slow a guy. And I thought that look 0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:19.000 Blake is in a tough matchup. But he never had 0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:22.000 a lookout block. No, there wasn't like we call him 0:53:22.000 --> 0:53:24.680 lookout block because the offensive lineman gets beat and he turns. 0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:32.240 You know what, that's bad when you have a franchise, 0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:34.560 not with anybody franchise. 0:53:34.239 --> 0:53:38.800 Quarter Yes, so I mean give him credit, and but Trevor, 0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:41.760 I mean the toughness that he's displayed in his career 0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:46.960 now forty seven consecutive games played. Uh, just impressive. And 0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:51.600 I thought he played well enough to win. And I 0:53:51.640 --> 0:53:53.560 think that this team has got up. They got to 0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:56.319 be better around him and better on the other side 0:53:56.320 --> 0:53:59.319 of the ball to get a win like that, because look, 0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:01.480 when you're on run and I can tell you this too, 0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:06.200 that's a hostile environment, trust me. Okay, oh yeah, he 0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:08.520 got to experience it first hand. 0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.560 So for those who did not listen to the broadcast yesterday, 0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:13.560 shame on you for not listening. By the way, what 0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:14.120 are you doing. 0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:17.520 Second of all, you missed out on Jeff Flagaman nearly 0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:20.160 jumping out of the booth apparently to go maybe chase 0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:21.120 down a Browns fan. 0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:23.279 What take us through what happened. I'll give you the 0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:25.719 kind of the scene and all that Jeff get into. 0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:28.080 Jeff was much more vocal with the fans. He was 0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:31.200 vocal on the air bat in the break, it was 0:54:31.239 --> 0:54:34.920 even more BASI were sitting and we had great it's 0:54:34.920 --> 0:54:38.120 a great booth, by the way, great vantage point. We're 0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:40.680 at the forty yard line and some of these newer 0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:42.520 stadiums you're kind of in the corner at times. It 0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:46.600 was great. But the fans are literally right there, like 0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:48.959 the booth is here, and Jeff and I could touch 0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:51.719 the fans. They touch top of their heads really. In fact, 0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:54.719 at one point some of the cool Brown fans asked 0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:56.640 Jeff to take a picture of them, and Jeff took 0:54:56.840 --> 0:55:00.359 a picture of them from the booth. It was an 0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:03.799 Olive brand. It was this was after well, there was 0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:05.480 one guy. They were the ones that weren't as drunk 0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:07.960 as the other. There was a couple of people together, 0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:10.960 maybe they were brothers. And like the nickname would be 0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:13.520 Summer Teeth because somewhere over there, somewhere over here, Summer 0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:17.759 Teeth and uh. And he hadn't seen it, Dennis for 0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:21.160 a while, and he was very vocal, very hammer and 0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:24.359 hammer and very vocal, very hammer. We're sitting there and 0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:26.319 Jeff and I are having fun back and forth. Well, 0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:27.920 all of a sudden we're on the air and not 0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:28.720 even paying attention. 0:55:28.880 --> 0:55:32.719 And a beer when the Browns scored touchdown, here comes 0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:33.319 a beer can. 0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:35.319 A beer can't comes flying into the booths at a 0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:37.479 high rate of speech, almost hits Frank in the head 0:55:38.640 --> 0:55:41.480 and it and it was it was Summer Teeth and 0:55:41.560 --> 0:55:45.320 his buddy Mullet. Yes, and I thought Jeff was gonna 0:55:45.680 --> 0:55:49.319 When we found out Jeff was. We had to hold 0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:51.760 them out back from jumping down out of the booth. 0:55:52.600 --> 0:55:57.240 And uh, now I'll say this, the press box attend 0:55:57.440 --> 0:56:00.759 press box attendant was outstanding. And then she came in. 0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:02.560 She heard about it. We didn't say. Someone must have 0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:05.160 told them and she came in. Oh, Dave told them 0:56:06.360 --> 0:56:10.680 David Cannas our producer runs the show in the every game. Uh. 0:56:10.800 --> 0:56:13.279 And they came and took pictures, and about ten minutes 0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:17.120 later that summer Teeth and his buddy were no longer 0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:19.720 sitting in the Summer and Mullet were gone. They were gone. 0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:22.680 Wow, they were removed from the stadium. But here and 0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:25.799 then here Jeff was great. There he Jeff got extra 0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:27.200 gear just he was ready to go. 0:56:28.160 --> 0:56:28.880 I was ready. 0:56:30.640 --> 0:56:32.640 And then and then the problem was is that once 0:56:32.680 --> 0:56:37.279 that uh summer, Teeth and Mullet left. Okay, Now his 0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:41.319 buddies are all made okay because they got tossed. But 0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:43.799 they didn't realize what they had done about throwing the 0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:46.880 beer can okay at a high raised speedy They just 0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:49.520 soft tossed it up to that a difference I was 0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:53.040 inviting them to come on in and to join us 0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:56.000 in the booth. We had plenty of room, okay, because 0:56:56.040 --> 0:56:58.319 it would have been a much better situation for me 0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:00.480 having the higher round. 0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:03.520 Yeah, I was gonna say that was one of the 0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:04.680 reasons why. 0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:04.480 Sure. 0:57:05.120 --> 0:57:08.240 It was interesting though, But back to Jeff's wayne very hostile. 0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:11.360 And here's here's the worst part. Okay, I got you know, 0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:14.399 there's a there's a glass wall to my right. Okay, 0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:17.840 I'm the I'm in the far right side of the boots. Okay, 0:57:18.240 --> 0:57:20.680 Frank's on the far left side, but Selli's in between 0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:23.360 us and Frank's got a closed wall by him because 0:57:23.640 --> 0:57:26.360 the Browns coaches are in the next boot, okay, and 0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:29.000 the booth to the our right, which has this glass wall. 0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:33.200 It's a fandom, okay. So you've got sweets that have 0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:38.320 open seating outside. There's this ten year old kid mocking 0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:39.880 Jeff that's sitting. 0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:41.640 There giving me the loser side. 0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:48.880 It was a glass the whole game, and he's pounding. 0:57:48.360 --> 0:57:50.439 On the glass. He's a hockey game. 0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:52.760 And I'm going and I look at his dad and 0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:58.040 I was like, allowing you ten year old kid to 0:57:58.080 --> 0:58:02.640 show a total lack of respect and JP. 0:58:02.840 --> 0:58:04.920 I I almost did it, but I didn't. 0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:07.840 I wanted to reach because you can our our booth 0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:09.080 is open and he was open. 0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:11.200 I was going to reach around the post and just grab. 0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:14.440 Him, just you know, just just to shock them a 0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:14.920 little bit. 0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:15.400 Uh huh. 0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:17.800 I was like, nah, better it would have been. It 0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:19.920 would have been a two man booth from after that 0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:20.520 for a while. 0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:21.880 Yeah, it might have been. 0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:24.960 But uh, the kid was great, and you know, the 0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:27.160 banner back and forth with him was fine. But the 0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:30.560 summer teeth and and mullet, yeah, it was. It was 0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:32.720 nice knowing them and it was it was nice talking 0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:35.280 to the rest of the guys after they got tossed, 0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:39.200 because it was a very pleasant conversation. This is Jaguars Happy, 0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:42.040 We are alive at mister Chubby's Wings and Panavitra attention 0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:45.640 x l A M Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. Pete Prisco, 0:58:45.840 --> 0:58:49.480 CBS Sports Senior writer. Let's give it a try again, Pete? 0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:50.840 Are you with us now? 0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:54.480 Can you hear me? Yes? 0:58:54.840 --> 0:58:58.520 We have yeah? Long last, how are you good? 0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:00.840 By the way, what is doing in my in my 0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:03.360 in that seat? He's not part of this show. This 0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:05.240 is an efficient show. I don't have to hear him 0:59:05.240 --> 0:59:08.080 talking about going to his property and stuff. 0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:08.840 I don't need that. 0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:10.880 Yeah, I see. 0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:13.280 Pete's a big fan of the show. He listened to 0:59:13.280 --> 0:59:14.520 the Outdoor Show every. 0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:19.080 I do too sometime, Pete, because you were not available 0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:21.800 the first hour, and we figured we bring in, Uh, 0:59:22.000 --> 0:59:24.760 we're in Panavid, You're at mister Chubby's. I live right 0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:26.560 down the street. Jeff lives right down the street. So 0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:28.720 Jeff's like, hey, it's a home game. I'll come join 0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:30.520 you and Pete. 0:59:30.640 --> 0:59:35.160 I mean, look, look, talk about that misery free. 0:59:35.000 --> 0:59:42.040 Wings to Pete. Why not? They are good, very good. 0:59:42.080 --> 0:59:44.520 Every Monday they bring it to our production crew at 0:59:44.520 --> 0:59:47.200 the Miller Electric Center, and now we came to them 0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:48.160 here at Mister. 0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:52.120 John They also provide food at halftime. So all right, 0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:54.600 let's let we're avoiding the situation. Pete. 0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:57.000 We want to open the floor for a few minutes 0:59:57.000 --> 1:00:00.080 for you here. What the hell happened yesterday? 1:00:01.160 --> 1:00:02.000 Well, let's be real. 1:00:02.040 --> 1:00:05.640 You got to give the quarterback credit for playing, but 1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:08.360 he was not very good at moments. But I think 1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:11.400 there were other issues at play, including you know, wide 1:00:11.440 --> 1:00:15.400 receiver running the wrong route, which Calvin Ridley clearly did. 1:00:15.480 --> 1:00:16.840 It was miscommunication there. 1:00:17.640 --> 1:00:20.680 I think that you know, defensively, they can't get to 1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:23.480 the quarterback. I mean, if Josh Allen doesn't get there, 1:00:23.560 --> 1:00:24.480 nobody's getting there. 1:00:24.800 --> 1:00:25.840 That's two weeks in a row. 1:00:25.880 --> 1:00:29.800 You made Jake Browning and Joe Flacco two backups, one 1:00:29.840 --> 1:00:34.320 almost years old, shred you throwing the football. There were 1:00:34.360 --> 1:00:37.400 way too many busts and I tried to go through 1:00:37.400 --> 1:00:39.439 and you guys might be able to watch the tape 1:00:39.480 --> 1:00:42.480 on the way home today from Kansas City. The busts 1:00:42.560 --> 1:00:47.200 in the secondary, I attribute number one to Rayshawn Jenkins, 1:00:47.840 --> 1:00:51.760 number two to a Luacan, and number three I was 1:00:51.800 --> 1:00:52.960 trying to get an idea. 1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:53.320 Who that was. 1:00:53.320 --> 1:00:56.400 It was either Darius Williams or Rayshon Jenkins. I couldn't 1:00:56.680 --> 1:00:59.280 quite figure that one out. But my gosh, you talk 1:00:59.320 --> 1:01:02.760 about guys running wide open that can't happen. 1:01:02.800 --> 1:01:04.520 And so you combine it all together. 1:01:05.200 --> 1:01:08.080 It was not a very good day for the Jacksonville 1:01:08.120 --> 1:01:09.520 Jaguars in Cleveland. 1:01:10.160 --> 1:01:13.800 In Cleveland, So I'll let Jeff Pete because we talked 1:01:13.840 --> 1:01:17.120 about those busts on defense, and I agree with you. 1:01:17.560 --> 1:01:21.320 The worst part of that game for me is really 1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:23.680 you beat yourself at the end of the day. Now, 1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:26.640 there's certain things that give Cleveland credit. They are more 1:01:26.680 --> 1:01:29.320 physicle at the line of scrimson we were they did, 1:01:29.440 --> 1:01:32.520 you know, some good things, but you take away three 1:01:32.640 --> 1:01:36.440 bus on defense, that's a completely different game. And I'll 1:01:36.520 --> 1:01:39.080 let Jeff because we talked about who's who we think, 1:01:39.160 --> 1:01:41.520 I mean, we're making some assumptions based on what we 1:01:41.520 --> 1:01:44.440 know about the defense and how they play. So I'll 1:01:44.480 --> 1:01:46.320 let Jeff kind of go through each of those and 1:01:46.480 --> 1:01:48.280 kind of what he saw on tape. 1:01:48.360 --> 1:01:51.440 All right, So the first one Pete, which was a 1:01:51.600 --> 1:01:54.120 third and one, and essentially the Browns are in a 1:01:54.160 --> 1:01:58.439 goal line personnel grouping. The Jaguars match with a goal 1:01:58.480 --> 1:02:02.360 line defensive grouping, and they're bringing pressure off the outside edges. 1:02:02.400 --> 1:02:04.600 And when you do that, a lot of times you 1:02:04.680 --> 1:02:09.080 ask a defensive end or a linebacker to play man 1:02:09.120 --> 1:02:12.600 on a tight end. And it looked like from watching 1:02:12.640 --> 1:02:17.040 it that Trayvon was in man coverage on Najoku and 1:02:17.120 --> 1:02:18.960 in order to do that. A lot of people say, well, 1:02:18.960 --> 1:02:21.240 how can you ask a guy like Trayvon to do that? Well, 1:02:21.880 --> 1:02:23.600 you beat him up at the line of scrimmage to 1:02:23.600 --> 1:02:25.880 where he can't release, and you expect him to be 1:02:25.960 --> 1:02:28.400 able to run with no Joku, because No Dajoku is 1:02:28.480 --> 1:02:31.200 not a guy that has blazing speed. I think it 1:02:31.360 --> 1:02:36.080 was on Trayvon with that one. The second one to Najoku, 1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:38.760 I think it was Foyer got too aggressive on a 1:02:38.840 --> 1:02:42.240 run read and then got caught and then he couldn't 1:02:42.320 --> 1:02:45.280 end up backing out and covering ground, and Devin Lloyd 1:02:45.320 --> 1:02:48.160 never even moved, He didn't buy the run fake. He 1:02:48.320 --> 1:02:51.280 was pointing in the direction of where the tight end 1:02:51.360 --> 1:02:54.840 was going, and Foyer was just so fast going downhill. 1:02:55.520 --> 1:02:58.840 And now the last one, which was the completion to 1:02:59.200 --> 1:03:05.040 the belt guy be be okay when when they started 1:03:05.040 --> 1:03:07.680 out the wide receiver, one of the wide receivers was 1:03:07.680 --> 1:03:11.040 out wide, and you're you're in man coverage and when 1:03:11.080 --> 1:03:14.320 the motion comes in, you're essentially playing an in and out, 1:03:14.360 --> 1:03:17.040 so you're playing man, but you're saying, okay, if one 1:03:17.040 --> 1:03:19.480 guy goes in, I got him, another guy stays at 1:03:19.480 --> 1:03:22.280 the outside, I got him. A little confusion there between 1:03:22.320 --> 1:03:24.600 Darius and ray Seawan because they both went to cover 1:03:24.680 --> 1:03:27.320 the same guy and then when Darius realized that they 1:03:27.360 --> 1:03:29.200 both were going to the same guy and that he 1:03:29.720 --> 1:03:31.880 in my opinion, he was supposed to be on the 1:03:31.920 --> 1:03:35.400 outside guy, and he realized that he plants his foot, slips, 1:03:35.440 --> 1:03:37.560 goes down to the ground, and by then it's too. 1:03:37.400 --> 1:03:41.400 Late, so that one is just miss miscommunication. Yeah, but 1:03:41.480 --> 1:03:42.120 the bottom. 1:03:41.880 --> 1:03:44.840 Line it ways, right, Jack, you could play that two 1:03:44.880 --> 1:03:45.360 different ways. 1:03:45.400 --> 1:03:47.160 You either go in and out or you just play 1:03:47.200 --> 1:03:49.400 it straight and and let the in guy go to 1:03:49.520 --> 1:03:51.840 Jenkins and and he stays with the outside guy. 1:03:51.880 --> 1:03:54.160 I mean that you could do that too, But. 1:03:54.360 --> 1:03:57.840 Yeah you can and say okay, we're staying. Yeah, it's 1:03:57.880 --> 1:03:59.720 it's you know, you can play cat coverage. I say, 1:03:59.760 --> 1:04:02.440 I got that cat. It doesn't matter what they do, right, Okay, 1:04:02.520 --> 1:04:04.400 But then you can also play okay, I got the 1:04:04.440 --> 1:04:06.160 guy that goes in, you got the guy that goes. 1:04:06.000 --> 1:04:12.640 Out Banjo, Right, Yeah. 1:04:10.840 --> 1:04:13.720 But Pete to your point though, I mean, you look 1:04:13.720 --> 1:04:18.400 at this game, and I've said I said it since 1:04:18.440 --> 1:04:22.840 the game yesterday. The Jaguars beat themselves with missed assignments, 1:04:23.240 --> 1:04:27.480 blown coverages, which is miss assignments, turnovers and stupid penalties. 1:04:27.920 --> 1:04:30.680 It wasn't like they were you know, the big fear 1:04:30.720 --> 1:04:32.880 going the game is is Miles Garrett in the you know, 1:04:33.000 --> 1:04:35.640 just gonna take over the game. Can they block them, 1:04:35.640 --> 1:04:38.240 it's gonna be just a complete mess because of the 1:04:38.240 --> 1:04:41.160 injuries offensive line, well, for the most part it was 1:04:41.200 --> 1:04:44.480 not and they Trevor had time to operate. Now, they 1:04:44.520 --> 1:04:46.840 still can't run the ball, and we talked about that already. 1:04:46.840 --> 1:04:49.240 I mean, it's like they can't run between the tackles. 1:04:49.240 --> 1:04:52.240 They physically can't do it. But as far as overall, 1:04:52.400 --> 1:04:54.800 if you don't have the missed assignments, and you know, 1:04:54.880 --> 1:04:57.920 including blown coverages, a lot of those miss assignments led 1:04:57.960 --> 1:05:01.280 to turnovers or touchdowns, that's a completely different game. 1:05:02.520 --> 1:05:04.440 But you can't you say that every week, Tony. I 1:05:04.440 --> 1:05:05.160 mean you really can. 1:05:05.200 --> 1:05:07.040 If you if you play your signmon football, you're gonna 1:05:07.040 --> 1:05:08.640 you're gonna not gonna make those mistakes. 1:05:08.640 --> 1:05:10.480 And I think they do. I mean they've been doing. 1:05:10.560 --> 1:05:12.440 And you know what else is getting worship by the way, 1:05:12.480 --> 1:05:14.440 the tackling and the secondaries get the wars. 1:05:15.080 --> 1:05:16.920 Yes, I mean you've got too bad. 1:05:17.000 --> 1:05:18.960 Turn last a couple of weeks in a row. There's 1:05:18.960 --> 1:05:20.840 been a lot of more tackling back there. 1:05:21.080 --> 1:05:22.560 You know, I want to say a couple of things 1:05:22.600 --> 1:05:25.720 real quick. I thought Antonio Johnson added some speed to 1:05:25.760 --> 1:05:28.040 that defense. They might need to get him on the 1:05:28.040 --> 1:05:30.640 field more, don't you think I mean he made a 1:05:30.640 --> 1:05:32.840 couple of plays about the tape a little bit. I 1:05:32.840 --> 1:05:34.120 think he's a guy that you need to get on 1:05:34.120 --> 1:05:34.520 the field. 1:05:35.120 --> 1:05:38.800 And then just a big fan of Antonio Johnson too. 1:05:40.080 --> 1:05:43.600 What do you hey, let's hold that thought. 1:05:43.680 --> 1:05:46.480 We'll come back and keep it real with your thoughts 1:05:46.800 --> 1:05:48.080 come of the decisions. 1:05:47.600 --> 1:05:49.320 At the end, Pete, we want to talk about that 1:05:49.640 --> 1:05:52.720 gone for two and would you have hunted or gone 1:05:52.800 --> 1:05:54.720 for it? And fourth and seven with three forty eight. 1:05:54.760 --> 1:05:57.400 Left, Hold that thought of Jaguars Happy Hour on tention 1:05:57.640 --> 1:06:01.360 xl AM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, j P Shadrick, 1:06:01.680 --> 1:06:05.880 Tony Vasselli, Jeff Blogoman At, mister Chubby's Wings and Panavietre. 1:06:05.400 --> 1:06:07.400 Beach and Pete Prisco with us. 1:06:07.400 --> 1:06:09.960 We'll keep it real when we come back on Jaguars 1:06:10.000 --> 1:06:22.680 Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings. 1:06:23.280 --> 1:06:24.960 I think it was four and ten. 1:06:25.120 --> 1:06:30.080 Yes, the fort and tree is a better chance which 1:06:30.400 --> 1:06:33.120 just pick up the first down for another one that 1:06:33.840 --> 1:06:34.520 he decided to go. 1:06:34.560 --> 1:06:35.120 A fuck out it. 1:06:37.960 --> 1:06:41.400 Head coach Doug Peterson after the game yesterday, welcome back 1:06:41.440 --> 1:06:43.920 as Jaguars Happy Hour. We are alive at mister Chubby's 1:06:43.920 --> 1:06:46.960 wings and Panavietre Beach on A one A hope you'll 1:06:47.080 --> 1:06:50.840 join us here until six o'clock. J. P. Shadwick, Hall 1:06:50.880 --> 1:06:54.400 of Famer, Tony Bisseli, Jeff Blogoman here and Pete Prisco 1:06:54.600 --> 1:06:57.160 with us on the line as always. And it's time 1:06:57.200 --> 1:07:01.080 now for keeping it Real, presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. 1:07:01.480 --> 1:07:05.400 Open up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award winning line 1:07:05.400 --> 1:07:09.120 by Robert Mandavi. And we have questions about some of 1:07:09.160 --> 1:07:12.439 the decisions toward the end of the game. And let's 1:07:12.480 --> 1:07:16.960 start with the Jaguars. With just about four minutes to go, 1:07:17.120 --> 1:07:20.360 three thirty four to play, Jaguars are facing fourth and 1:07:20.440 --> 1:07:22.600 three from their own thirty eight yard line. They had 1:07:22.640 --> 1:07:24.880 to burn a time out before the fourth down play, 1:07:25.280 --> 1:07:28.840 they decided to go for it. Lawrence throws incomplete short 1:07:28.920 --> 1:07:31.800 ripe to say Jones, they turn it over on downs. 1:07:32.160 --> 1:07:35.600 The Browns get one yard on the ensuing drive three 1:07:35.640 --> 1:07:38.480 plays and kick a fifty five yard field goal to 1:07:38.520 --> 1:07:39.680 go up ten piece. 1:07:39.720 --> 1:07:41.160 So hold on before we go to peace. So it 1:07:41.200 --> 1:07:43.480 was only fourth and three. I thought it was five 1:07:43.520 --> 1:07:46.160 and six, Okay, I was wrong. It was fourth and three. 1:07:46.280 --> 1:07:48.640 I don't change my opinion, but fourth and three, so Pete, 1:07:48.680 --> 1:07:51.640 you go first, because all right, me, I think. 1:07:54.680 --> 1:07:57.080 I mean you gotta punt them. You have to punt 1:07:57.120 --> 1:07:59.640 the football because here's why. If you don't get it, 1:07:59.640 --> 1:08:02.360 which they didn't, you're automatically giving him a field goal 1:08:02.360 --> 1:08:04.479 that puts you the game at essentially out of reach. 1:08:04.920 --> 1:08:07.040 If you punt them in let's just say flip it forward, 1:08:07.080 --> 1:08:09.560 you pun him back, and you do have the same 1:08:09.640 --> 1:08:13.520 exact situation where you limit him to one yard, then 1:08:13.560 --> 1:08:15.520 you're gonna get the football back and you're gonna have 1:08:15.560 --> 1:08:18.200 a chance to go tie the game, or maybe Doug 1:08:18.240 --> 1:08:20.200 Peterson would go for two and try and win the game. 1:08:20.560 --> 1:08:24.200 So I think I didn't like the decision. I would 1:08:24.200 --> 1:08:26.200 have punted the football right there. And I think you 1:08:26.240 --> 1:08:27.479 guys probably agree with me. 1:08:28.280 --> 1:08:31.920 Agree, And I think you're you're assuming Pete that you're 1:08:31.960 --> 1:08:34.519 gonna get a stop and also assuming that you're gonna 1:08:34.520 --> 1:08:37.200 get good field position after the stop. But that happened 1:08:37.280 --> 1:08:39.800 earlier in the game, and the guy that punts for 1:08:39.840 --> 1:08:42.800 the Cleveland Browns kicked the seventy five yard punt and 1:08:42.840 --> 1:08:44.160 you didn't get good field position. 1:08:44.320 --> 1:08:46.280 So I'm I'm I'm. 1:08:46.120 --> 1:08:48.360 Against you guys a little bit here on this, and 1:08:48.400 --> 1:08:50.840 then I'm okay with it. Fourth and three with a 1:08:50.880 --> 1:08:53.839 good quarterback and one of the best tight ends in football. 1:08:53.880 --> 1:08:55.640 I just wish he had been the primary. Yeah, I 1:08:55.640 --> 1:08:59.360 guess I understand why Doug went for it, but I 1:08:59.400 --> 1:09:01.320 just I still disagree with it. And I let me 1:09:01.360 --> 1:09:03.240 correct myself because I said earlier in the show it 1:09:03.280 --> 1:09:05.360 was like fourth or six or fourth and six or seven. 1:09:05.360 --> 1:09:08.720 I it doesn't change my perspective whether it's fourth six, 1:09:09.200 --> 1:09:11.960 fourth and six and it's still seven or fourth and three. 1:09:11.960 --> 1:09:15.160 I'm still punting it because if you don't get it 1:09:16.680 --> 1:09:20.599 because of their kicker, you're basically the game's ending, because 1:09:20.680 --> 1:09:25.160 especially because especially with the onside rules now, the chances 1:09:25.200 --> 1:09:30.320 of getting an on side kick are so low. And 1:09:30.320 --> 1:09:32.840 and you got I mean at some point, you keep 1:09:32.880 --> 1:09:36.519 your timeouts for a reason, and you like punting's part 1:09:36.520 --> 1:09:39.479 of the game. Punt it deep, get a three and out, 1:09:40.160 --> 1:09:42.280 even if he booms another one. Jeff, to your point, 1:09:42.600 --> 1:09:45.000 you're gonna get the ball at you're twenty fifteen or 1:09:45.000 --> 1:09:47.920 twenty with over two minutes left because you used all 1:09:47.920 --> 1:09:50.680 three timeouts, and that's an eternity to. 1:09:50.640 --> 1:09:54.280 Go four touchdowns and don't if you don't blow the timeout. 1:09:54.320 --> 1:09:56.120 If you make the decision right away, you have three 1:09:56.160 --> 1:09:57.639 timeouts into two minute warning. 1:09:58.560 --> 1:10:00.800 No, I would never even Yeah, I would just take 1:10:00.800 --> 1:10:01.679 a delay of game. 1:10:03.240 --> 1:10:04.280 Before the third down play. 1:10:04.320 --> 1:10:05.760 You say, if we don't get it, we're gonna punt, 1:10:05.800 --> 1:10:07.200 and then we're gonna go play there, so you don't 1:10:07.200 --> 1:10:08.599 have to use the other time out. 1:10:08.640 --> 1:10:11.080 And so, by the way, move over, BISSELLI. 1:10:11.160 --> 1:10:13.479 There's a new company man in town on the set 1:10:13.479 --> 1:10:14.759 there since Jeff Logaman. 1:10:14.840 --> 1:10:16.000 He just took over your place. 1:10:18.280 --> 1:10:21.120 No, but but Pete, I mean, now, look, Pete, if 1:10:21.120 --> 1:10:23.519 it had been fourth and six or seven or eight, 1:10:24.320 --> 1:10:26.960 I would I would think completely differently about it. But 1:10:27.080 --> 1:10:29.720 fourth and three, And here's the problem, Pete, because the 1:10:29.800 --> 1:10:33.000 Jaguars defense this year has not done a great job 1:10:33.280 --> 1:10:35.879 when they needed to give the ball back to the offense. 1:10:35.920 --> 1:10:39.320 This year, they haven't done the job in that category. Yeah, 1:10:39.360 --> 1:10:41.200 I guess I just think. 1:10:42.640 --> 1:10:46.640 The games over, because if you don't get it, the 1:10:46.680 --> 1:10:47.840 games the game's over. 1:10:47.960 --> 1:10:51.040 With three minutes left in the game, it's over. Now, 1:10:51.080 --> 1:10:53.320 here's the other decision. Hold on, hold on before I 1:10:53.320 --> 1:10:57.360 want to finish his real quick, because that's what this guy, 1:10:57.520 --> 1:11:00.880 their kicker had not missed over fifty all years, and 1:11:00.960 --> 1:11:03.519 so if you don't pick it up, you are ending 1:11:03.800 --> 1:11:06.000 the game. And I think you tried to extend the 1:11:06.040 --> 1:11:08.759 game and give yourself as many chances as you possibly 1:11:08.800 --> 1:11:11.720 can and just be let's let's go back. Let's say 1:11:11.720 --> 1:11:12.599 you get fourth and three. 1:11:13.320 --> 1:11:16.800 You still have sixty yards to go right right right, 1:11:16.960 --> 1:11:17.599 to do anything. 1:11:17.600 --> 1:11:19.759 It's not like you're going for it at the fifty, 1:11:20.240 --> 1:11:23.200 at at the plus forty five, where if you don't 1:11:23.200 --> 1:11:24.760 get it you can still get a three and out. 1:11:25.120 --> 1:11:27.479 Like I would be all for that. My problem was 1:11:27.520 --> 1:11:29.040 if you don't get it, you end the game. 1:11:29.080 --> 1:11:30.599 If they make the field, you know who you're really 1:11:30.600 --> 1:11:31.559 missing that situation. 1:11:32.280 --> 1:11:36.280 Christian kirk oh Gosha. Absolutely, yes, you could say that. Yeah, yeah, 1:11:36.280 --> 1:11:37.880 for the next few I'm sure. Hey. 1:11:37.880 --> 1:11:42.439 The other decision, the other decision that as we're keeping 1:11:42.479 --> 1:11:45.959 it real, presented by Woodbridge by Robert MUNDAVII. The Jaguars 1:11:45.960 --> 1:11:48.640 score a touchdown one thirty seven to go, Lawrence to 1:11:48.800 --> 1:11:52.720 Ingram a two yarder and so they're down four and 1:11:53.040 --> 1:11:54.080 decide to go for. 1:11:54.040 --> 1:11:57.800 Two and make it a two point game. Instead, they 1:11:57.880 --> 1:11:58.439 missed it. 1:11:58.439 --> 1:12:00.600 It was still a four point games, still needing the 1:12:00.680 --> 1:12:01.439 on side kick. 1:12:01.479 --> 1:12:03.599 Pete, what do you think that was? 1:12:03.880 --> 1:12:07.639 That makes no sense whatsoever in any way, shape or form. 1:12:07.720 --> 1:12:11.040 You cannot defend that. Doug Peterson cannot defend that. What's 1:12:11.040 --> 1:12:12.640 the point of it. Oh, we're gonna go win it. 1:12:12.720 --> 1:12:14.200 He's still gonna get the on side kick and go 1:12:14.200 --> 1:12:17.600 get the field goal. Anyways, if you will limit it 1:12:17.720 --> 1:12:21.280 by not getting that, you eliminated the chance to go 1:12:21.320 --> 1:12:23.600 get a field goal to send the game to overtime. 1:12:23.680 --> 1:12:25.760 It made no sense to me none. 1:12:26.160 --> 1:12:28.479 I will never And look, they can pull out their 1:12:28.520 --> 1:12:29.840 analytics book all they want. 1:12:30.360 --> 1:12:32.639 There's no defense of that at all. 1:12:32.800 --> 1:12:36.200 You definitely kick the extra point and then you hope 1:12:36.240 --> 1:12:37.839 you get the on side kick and go to overtime. 1:12:39.160 --> 1:12:41.040 So hold on real quick, just so I can prove 1:12:41.080 --> 1:12:42.479 the Pete that I'm not a company man. 1:12:42.840 --> 1:12:43.879 I agree with you, Pete. 1:12:44.040 --> 1:12:45.479 There you go, Jeff, I like it. 1:12:45.560 --> 1:12:51.280 I like it. There you go, Pete, Pete, I I agree. 1:12:51.400 --> 1:12:54.160 I would not have gone for it. But it bothers 1:12:54.200 --> 1:12:57.280 me less than the one the not punning it on 1:12:57.400 --> 1:13:03.080 fourth and three with three timeouts, because the reality is, well, 1:13:03.160 --> 1:13:05.240 my point is I mean, because getting it on side 1:13:05.320 --> 1:13:09.439 is such low probability in today's NFL. But let's just 1:13:09.479 --> 1:13:13.599 say you get the on side. Whether you made that 1:13:13.640 --> 1:13:16.040 two point or conversion or not, you still had a 1:13:16.080 --> 1:13:19.920 minute forty four left. It wasn't like ten seconds left, 1:13:20.520 --> 1:13:23.400 and so you can still score touchdown and win it. 1:13:23.439 --> 1:13:25.519 I did. I still I'm with you. I wouldn't have 1:13:25.560 --> 1:13:28.400 done it, but it doesn't bother me as much because 1:13:28.439 --> 1:13:33.759 the biggest risk is getting the on side and so okay, 1:13:34.080 --> 1:13:36.240 like that, Like that one inn't bother me. I did 1:13:36.240 --> 1:13:41.200 not like fourth and three three timeouts against let's call it. 1:13:41.520 --> 1:13:43.720 I mean, you talk about the defense not doing great 1:13:43.760 --> 1:13:46.920 in those situations. Take away those three explosives, which I 1:13:46.920 --> 1:13:49.120 always hate when defensive coordators do this. Except for these 1:13:49.160 --> 1:13:52.040 three plays, we were really good. But take away those 1:13:52.080 --> 1:13:56.559 three explosives. The Browns average under three under three yards 1:13:56.560 --> 1:13:58.360 of rush as well. It was two point nine and 1:13:58.400 --> 1:14:01.080 so it wasn't like they were gash you on the ground. 1:14:02.040 --> 1:14:05.719 It was broken. It was bad coverage that would killed 1:14:05.720 --> 1:14:08.519 you that day. The other remember the other seven they 1:14:08.560 --> 1:14:11.200 got to get to twenty eight, was when Parker Washington 1:14:11.240 --> 1:14:12.640 fumbled on the twenty and they only have to go 1:14:12.680 --> 1:14:15.720 twenty yards, So it wasn't like this was a Cleveland 1:14:15.840 --> 1:14:18.920 team just marching up and down the field. It was 1:14:19.280 --> 1:14:23.759 poor coverage, poor execution and turnovers that led to those points, 1:14:23.960 --> 1:14:26.000 which is another reason I would have kicked it deep 1:14:26.640 --> 1:14:29.040 and play defense. All right, you have it. That's keeping 1:14:29.040 --> 1:14:32.519 it by Yes, back to the Tony. 1:14:32.560 --> 1:14:33.280 You made a good point. 1:14:33.640 --> 1:14:36.360 Whether you got the two point player or not the 1:14:36.560 --> 1:14:39.639 once I kick was in play, you know, so what's 1:14:39.680 --> 1:14:41.800 the different Why not just why not keep your hopes 1:14:41.880 --> 1:14:43.679 up that maybe if you have a chance. 1:14:43.720 --> 1:14:45.080 I didn't get that at all. That one was. 1:14:46.600 --> 1:14:48.280 It didn't bother me as much. When I'm waiting to pete. 1:14:48.280 --> 1:14:50.800 I would have to just kicked the next point. That's 1:14:50.800 --> 1:14:51.160 how we do. 1:14:51.320 --> 1:14:54.639 Keeping it Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Open 1:14:54.720 --> 1:14:57.439 up a winner today, really INGREDI It's award winning line 1:14:57.439 --> 1:14:58.960 by Robert Mundavi. 1:14:58.920 --> 1:15:00.680 Or the rest of the way. We can take it now. 1:15:01.920 --> 1:15:03.120 The real part is on real. 1:15:03.520 --> 1:15:07.439 It's all fake from here, including fanatics fan questions. Those 1:15:07.479 --> 1:15:11.719 are Texas Jaguars Happy Hour Live from Mister Chubby's Wings 1:15:11.720 --> 1:15:12.760 at Panavitra Beach. 1:15:25.479 --> 1:15:28.439 Felt pretty good all things considered, you know, so that 1:15:28.520 --> 1:15:30.200 was a that was a positive out of today. 1:15:30.200 --> 1:15:31.400 I guess that's about the only one. 1:15:31.439 --> 1:15:34.839 But yeah, you know, I didn't didn't, you know, reinjer 1:15:34.880 --> 1:15:36.799 my ankle and didn't tweak it or anything. 1:15:37.360 --> 1:15:39.559 Felt pretty good. It held off. I was able to 1:15:39.560 --> 1:15:43.839 move when needed. So yeah, it was this is good. 1:15:44.840 --> 1:15:45.880 That's the quarterback, of course. 1:15:45.920 --> 1:15:48.559 Trevor Lawrence playing on a high ankle sprain yesterday in 1:15:48.600 --> 1:15:52.400 Cleveland and welcome back in his Jaguars happy hour. JP Shadwick, 1:15:52.439 --> 1:15:56.840 Tony Maselli, Jeff Logiman from Mister Chubby's Wings, and Panavietra Beach, 1:15:56.960 --> 1:15:59.679 Pete Priscoe on the line with us after Jaguars loss 1:16:00.320 --> 1:16:03.200 in Cleveland to the Browns thirty one twenty seven. We've 1:16:03.240 --> 1:16:07.200 got chubby style wings here outstanding. Jason Dean has loaded tots. 1:16:07.280 --> 1:16:09.960 It looks like just what you Jason, just what you need. 1:16:10.400 --> 1:16:13.040 Dave didn't get anything. Oh he's okay, it's on the way, 1:16:13.080 --> 1:16:14.000 it's en root okay. 1:16:14.000 --> 1:16:19.479 And he ordered to Andres Oh wow, aggressive okay, saying 1:16:19.520 --> 1:16:20.240 that's really good. 1:16:20.479 --> 1:16:23.240 Aggressive wow too, I mean yeah, aggressive. I mean you 1:16:23.800 --> 1:16:26.040 see him at halftime what he does with mister Chubby 1:16:26.240 --> 1:16:26.760 speak of the. 1:16:26.680 --> 1:16:28.400 Devil Here are the both on and here they are 1:16:28.439 --> 1:16:30.200 the wings. 1:16:30.200 --> 1:16:31.120 Two orders. 1:16:32.720 --> 1:16:32.960 Dave. 1:16:33.400 --> 1:16:35.920 Dave did not want one. He wanted to Can I. 1:16:35.880 --> 1:16:39.439 Get that's still evidence evidence? Let me see real quick, 1:16:39.479 --> 1:16:42.599 Come on, Dave, come on, we're proving this. Yeah, okay, 1:16:42.720 --> 1:16:44.720 Brent Reevers over here as well, he might take some 1:16:44.840 --> 1:16:47.040 of them. See that, folks, there's another plate over there, 1:16:47.040 --> 1:16:48.760 and Dave was trying to take both and now he's 1:16:48.800 --> 1:16:50.880 trying to pass it off so it doesn't look like 1:16:50.960 --> 1:16:53.880 that he's being, you know, a glutton with. 1:16:53.800 --> 1:16:56.080 All but those two close to Baseilli he's like one 1:16:56.080 --> 1:16:59.479 of those birds coming in, slipping in. I'm stealing those control. 1:16:59.600 --> 1:17:02.880 It's hard with these words. They're really good. Whatever rub 1:17:02.960 --> 1:17:05.360 they put on these things, it's secret chovy style. 1:17:06.200 --> 1:17:07.840 And I like those. 1:17:09.960 --> 1:17:13.200 They're good ones because they're not they're nice, crispy, they're like, 1:17:13.400 --> 1:17:14.240 they're not greasy. 1:17:14.280 --> 1:17:16.519 There's no grease to them. I don't think there's there. 1:17:16.680 --> 1:17:19.320 And they're not fatty greasy. They're really good. We're big 1:17:19.360 --> 1:17:21.680 wings outstanding. Yeah, I love that. 1:17:21.680 --> 1:17:24.920 Hey. Time now for the Fanatics fan questions. 1:17:25.200 --> 1:17:27.519 Jags fans, you're up at fanatics dot com with all 1:17:27.600 --> 1:17:30.639 latest DAG styles. Shop down and get today's special offer. 1:17:30.680 --> 1:17:34.600 Fanatics dot Com officially license everything. We always put the 1:17:34.640 --> 1:17:38.000 cat signal out on Twitter, and uh, we always kind 1:17:38.000 --> 1:17:39.439 of pick the best ones of the day. And I 1:17:39.479 --> 1:17:42.880 was called out before the show by a fan, yeah, 1:17:43.000 --> 1:17:44.759 saying that I never pick his question. 1:17:44.880 --> 1:17:46.960 Ever, Well, oh, I thought you did you see that? 1:17:47.000 --> 1:17:49.479 What you were called out by ruining the last two 1:17:49.520 --> 1:17:50.880 weeks because of the triple off. 1:17:50.960 --> 1:17:55.479 Yeah, that's a different story altogether. However, at Segundo's dad 1:17:55.479 --> 1:17:58.120 has the first question tonight and he's here tonight, So 1:17:58.160 --> 1:17:59.479 thanks for coming up and calling us out. 1:17:59.479 --> 1:18:00.679 We appreciate. It's a good question. 1:18:01.160 --> 1:18:04.760 Individually, the offensive line is a collection of solid players. Collectively, 1:18:05.040 --> 1:18:07.760 they aren't getting it done. Is there an explanation why 1:18:07.800 --> 1:18:10.800 the Jags can't run between the tackles and keep a 1:18:10.840 --> 1:18:20.760 clean pocket? Well, the don't point me, he started to 1:18:20.800 --> 1:18:21.519 answer the question. 1:18:21.600 --> 1:18:23.320 I was pinting you because we talked about it all 1:18:23.360 --> 1:18:27.439 the time. We're on the same page. I disagree with 1:18:27.600 --> 1:18:31.160 the clean pocket. Now they hit him twelve times, Yet 1:18:31.200 --> 1:18:34.479 they did that's a good unit. But until yesterday it 1:18:34.520 --> 1:18:36.559 was like the Bengals were all over him. It wasn't 1:18:36.600 --> 1:18:38.720 like the Texans were all over them. It wasn't like 1:18:38.840 --> 1:18:43.040 whoever we played before that. I mean, so, I'm not 1:18:43.160 --> 1:18:46.639 sure it's fair to say the protection has been bad 1:18:46.680 --> 1:18:50.040 for the last seven or eight games. The run game, 1:18:50.080 --> 1:18:54.240 I agree with, that's a good unit, and like now, 1:18:54.280 --> 1:18:55.840 he got hit too much, and there was a couple 1:18:55.880 --> 1:19:00.320 of times just unnecessaryacked in my opinion, but. 1:19:00.760 --> 1:19:02.760 In a couple of times because an offensive lineman just 1:19:02.760 --> 1:19:03.599 didn't even finish. 1:19:03.640 --> 1:19:05.880 Just finish the play, Just finish the block. You got 1:19:05.920 --> 1:19:07.080 him finish. 1:19:07.479 --> 1:19:10.960 I mean that that's not asking something that's superhuman. Finished 1:19:11.000 --> 1:19:14.240 the block. Okay, the old saying, play to the whistle, 1:19:15.479 --> 1:19:18.680 the echo, play to the whistle. I'm trying to do 1:19:18.760 --> 1:19:22.400 my best. Yes, very well done, Edwards imitation Pete. What 1:19:22.400 --> 1:19:23.200 do you think about all this? 1:19:23.840 --> 1:19:25.760 Let's talk about the run game before we go to Pete. Okay, 1:19:26.840 --> 1:19:28.080 you want to take the first shot. You want me 1:19:28.120 --> 1:19:32.120 to you started off. They do not move people. They 1:19:32.120 --> 1:19:40.200 are not a physical, downhill displace people type of offensive line. 1:19:41.400 --> 1:19:44.280 They are out of a two point most of the time. 1:19:45.120 --> 1:19:49.080 You have a center who is tall guy, but plays 1:19:49.080 --> 1:19:54.559 with the high pad level and doesn't isn't physical, isn't 1:19:54.560 --> 1:19:56.600 physical at the lion of scrimmage, isn't physical getting up 1:19:56.600 --> 1:20:01.639 to the next level. I think that the I think 1:20:02.240 --> 1:20:05.360 Brandon Sheriff is. You know, he's an older player, he's 1:20:05.360 --> 1:20:08.519 had some lower body injuries. I don't think he has 1:20:08.560 --> 1:20:12.320 the power right now to move he's he is he smart? 1:20:12.400 --> 1:20:14.880 Is he in the right place? Absolutely? Is he a 1:20:14.920 --> 1:20:17.960 good poller. But as far as just being physical and 1:20:18.040 --> 1:20:20.920 move people, and so, you look, we have an offense 1:20:20.960 --> 1:20:25.120 it's very horizontal, very position block, looking for an angle 1:20:25.479 --> 1:20:28.400 and pull guys and try to get outside and try 1:20:28.439 --> 1:20:34.280 to fabricate run lanes. It's not it's not a physical group. 1:20:34.320 --> 1:20:36.600 And when you're not a physical group, as as this 1:20:37.040 --> 1:20:40.280 season goes on, people start understanding what you're trying to 1:20:40.320 --> 1:20:43.599 do and defend it. Play against a good unit like Cleveland, 1:20:43.600 --> 1:20:46.200 they're gonna shut it down. But the reality is it's 1:20:46.240 --> 1:20:47.920 not just good units who shut us down. We've been 1:20:47.920 --> 1:20:49.240 shut down the last seven weeks. 1:20:49.680 --> 1:20:51.559 I'll be real brief and let let people talk here, 1:20:51.640 --> 1:20:54.520 but just a quick comment. This is a pass first offense, 1:20:55.120 --> 1:20:58.000 and when you're a pass first offense sometimes it's it's 1:20:58.120 --> 1:20:59.960 hard to get that mind. 1:21:01.080 --> 1:21:01.400 Okay. 1:21:01.439 --> 1:21:04.000 Now we need to be physical, okay, And so that 1:21:04.080 --> 1:21:06.800 makes it difficult, but you still have to be able 1:21:06.840 --> 1:21:07.280 to do that. 1:21:08.360 --> 1:21:10.519 Yeah, but when we get the Eagles and the way 1:21:10.520 --> 1:21:12.680 they play and they move their center and get them 1:21:12.680 --> 1:21:14.559 on the move and everything else, they play physical. 1:21:15.240 --> 1:21:16.840 They didn't last night, but they usually do. 1:21:17.400 --> 1:21:19.479 I think part of the biggest part of the problem 1:21:19.479 --> 1:21:21.719 with running the football is the center. He's not big. 1:21:22.200 --> 1:21:24.280 I mean, he's not physical. You mentioned it. Tony plays 1:21:24.280 --> 1:21:27.639 too high. He gets immediate immediately he's up and he's 1:21:27.640 --> 1:21:29.840 getting pushed. And when you can't get any push, that's 1:21:29.840 --> 1:21:32.960 a problem. Sheriff was terrible last week. He was He 1:21:33.040 --> 1:21:35.439 was a little bit better this week. I thought, you know, 1:21:36.160 --> 1:21:38.680 am I crazy to think that there's a possibility they 1:21:38.680 --> 1:21:40.720 can make a change at center and put Shatley in 1:21:40.720 --> 1:21:42.280 there if you want to really try and improve the 1:21:42.360 --> 1:21:45.519 run game or something, because they're not running the ball 1:21:45.560 --> 1:21:47.280 at all, and Tony's right, it's. 1:21:47.160 --> 1:21:49.040 A it's a pull in pot. You know, they pin 1:21:49.160 --> 1:21:49.640 and pull up. 1:21:50.200 --> 1:21:52.880 You know, offense, there's angles and get to the second 1:21:52.960 --> 1:21:55.200 level and they just don't do a good enough job 1:21:55.240 --> 1:21:57.000 of it. I don't know what the answer is, but 1:21:57.000 --> 1:21:58.880 they don't have enough bodies now to try and make 1:21:58.920 --> 1:21:59.720 any decisions. 1:21:59.720 --> 1:21:59.960 Do that. 1:22:00.240 --> 1:22:02.360 I mean, think about it. Who's gonna start this week 1:22:02.400 --> 1:22:06.360 at left tackle? Will Walker Littill be back? 1:22:06.720 --> 1:22:09.240 There's question, he's question the possibility. 1:22:09.400 --> 1:22:14.320 So if he's not, Blake can start right. 1:22:13.320 --> 1:22:16.559 The possibilit Ezra's day to day two. 1:22:16.840 --> 1:22:19.400 Let me chime in right here, because I'm a big believer, 1:22:19.680 --> 1:22:21.880 and Tony You've heard me say this for many years. 1:22:22.520 --> 1:22:25.400 I'm not a big fan of when you have an injury, 1:22:26.040 --> 1:22:29.479 that you make two position changes because of one injury. 1:22:30.240 --> 1:22:32.920 So I would have been a bigger fan of, Okay, 1:22:33.000 --> 1:22:36.160 leave Ezra Cleveland at left guard and then put Blake 1:22:36.200 --> 1:22:38.479 Canson in at left tackle, because it's a position that 1:22:38.479 --> 1:22:42.280 you're already gonna help a ton with anyway, and because 1:22:42.320 --> 1:22:46.479 I think that continuity is key there. Uh And because also, 1:22:46.680 --> 1:22:49.840 and we haven't mentioned this yet. If you have let's 1:22:49.840 --> 1:22:52.040 say Blake Canson left tackle, you help him with the 1:22:52.080 --> 1:22:54.400 tight end, and then you got to get the running 1:22:54.400 --> 1:22:56.840 backs to do a better job with the chips than 1:22:56.880 --> 1:22:58.200 what they did in this past game. 1:22:59.120 --> 1:23:00.360 It was not good name. 1:23:01.840 --> 1:23:05.800 He was unread Pete, Pete, how many times do you remember? 1:23:05.920 --> 1:23:08.519 And one of the best ever in the history of 1:23:08.560 --> 1:23:08.880 the league. 1:23:08.920 --> 1:23:11.000 Because I felt it was Eric. 1:23:10.840 --> 1:23:15.200 B enemy Okay when he used to do a chip Okay, 1:23:15.240 --> 1:23:18.280 I'm talking. He had a crosshair on ribs and he 1:23:18.400 --> 1:23:22.080 was looking to break them. Fred Taylor was awesome at it. 1:23:24.560 --> 1:23:27.840 Maurice was arguably the best in Jaguars history. 1:23:27.880 --> 1:23:31.920 We remember Shawn Merriman. Yeah, he's still feeling that what 1:23:31.960 --> 1:23:35.719 we saw yesterday was not good. Was the exact opposite 1:23:35.760 --> 1:23:39.200 of what you just described. But going back to the 1:23:39.400 --> 1:23:43.600 offense line in general is and Pete, you asked that 1:23:43.640 --> 1:23:46.559 you put Shatley at center. I don't know what you do, 1:23:47.600 --> 1:23:52.920 but there is it's I think it impacts other calling plays. 1:23:53.160 --> 1:23:55.200 And I agree Jeff. There a pass first offense, no 1:23:55.200 --> 1:23:58.240 doubt about that, but not to to the not to 1:23:58.320 --> 1:24:01.960 the level of fifty seven call passes and seventeen called 1:24:02.040 --> 1:24:05.120 runs in a game. But I don't think they have 1:24:05.120 --> 1:24:08.240 any confidence to run through in between the tackles because 1:24:08.280 --> 1:24:10.840 it's not just that we play very horizontal, very high. 1:24:11.000 --> 1:24:15.320 We're not physical. We don't finish, we don't stay on blocks, 1:24:15.360 --> 1:24:17.799 we don't even get to the next level and finish 1:24:18.160 --> 1:24:22.960 blocks that allow that next level run to break. There's 1:24:22.960 --> 1:24:25.400 a lot of watching going on. Yeah, all right, let's 1:24:25.400 --> 1:24:26.439 move along to the next question. 1:24:26.479 --> 1:24:29.080 It's get a couple more in here, guys at SSBAY 1:24:29.240 --> 1:24:32.639 underscore Z. Why does it seem like when a team 1:24:32.760 --> 1:24:36.519 uses motion or misdirection on offense, our defense looks so confused, 1:24:36.520 --> 1:24:39.160 which leads to wide open receivers. Even the fourth and 1:24:39.200 --> 1:24:40.880 three the Brown score to go up twenty eight to 1:24:40.920 --> 1:24:42.360 fourteen was a blown coverage. 1:24:44.640 --> 1:24:48.320 Jeff, you're the defensive expert. Well, I mean, here, here's 1:24:48.320 --> 1:24:48.679 the thing. 1:24:48.760 --> 1:24:51.439 The motion I think that he's referring to, which is 1:24:51.680 --> 1:24:54.360 very observant, is the one that went to Bell a 1:24:54.439 --> 1:24:58.320 wide receiver. And when you have motions, you can have 1:24:58.360 --> 1:24:59.960 the change a change of response. 1:25:00.000 --> 1:25:02.000 It's ability. And with the. 1:25:01.960 --> 1:25:04.599 Motions, there's got to be communications as soon. 1:25:04.400 --> 1:25:05.919 As that motion starts. 1:25:06.720 --> 1:25:09.280 And in the case of the long touchdown the Bell, 1:25:09.840 --> 1:25:14.439 there wasn't even so much as a glance with Darius 1:25:14.439 --> 1:25:17.880 Williams and Rayshawn Jenkins at that time, nor before the play. 1:25:18.640 --> 1:25:20.880 And you've got to be able to communicate so everybody's 1:25:20.920 --> 1:25:22.880 on the same page, so you don't have any holes. 1:25:23.400 --> 1:25:27.000 And so yeah, that's something that you don't want to see. Yes, 1:25:27.040 --> 1:25:30.719 it's been a problem before with this defense, and they've 1:25:30.720 --> 1:25:33.920 got to get that corrected, and it's just a simple 1:25:34.000 --> 1:25:38.040 matter of talking when the huddle breaks, when the formation 1:25:38.240 --> 1:25:41.000 is set, and then as quickly as you can when 1:25:41.040 --> 1:25:45.479 something changes with emotion. And clearly the Jaguars did not 1:25:45.560 --> 1:25:47.799 do a good job with it, especially on that specific 1:25:47.800 --> 1:25:50.719 play on the touchdown the bill it's a lot pete. 1:25:51.400 --> 1:25:54.639 Yeah, really football, if you take away to the three bus, 1:25:54.720 --> 1:25:57.240 they've probably played well on defense. But everybody can say that. 1:25:57.479 --> 1:25:59.720 In every game in this league nowadays, you always have 1:25:59.760 --> 1:26:00.280 going to couple of. 1:26:00.280 --> 1:26:00.800 Plays like that. 1:26:01.160 --> 1:26:04.880 My concern is, where the hell, other than Josh Allen, 1:26:05.000 --> 1:26:05.800 is the pass rush. 1:26:06.120 --> 1:26:10.320 Seriously, where is it? It's not existent, It's not there. 1:26:10.600 --> 1:26:13.360 It's and okay, a couple of those plays. 1:26:14.080 --> 1:26:16.559 You know, Flacco stood back there and I think he 1:26:16.600 --> 1:26:18.840 threw a rifle shot to the right sideline on one place, 1:26:18.920 --> 1:26:20.920 stood back there for twenty minutes. It seemed like the 1:26:21.320 --> 1:26:24.839 pass rush is non existent. They and the whole Trayvon 1:26:24.920 --> 1:26:27.200 Walker again, we're going to pile on a little bit. 1:26:27.520 --> 1:26:29.280 He had one pressure where I think he came off 1:26:29.320 --> 1:26:30.240 the edge. He beat a guy. 1:26:30.600 --> 1:26:35.440 Those are backup tackles they're working against. They're not starters. 1:26:38.439 --> 1:26:40.679 Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna argue with that because 1:26:40.840 --> 1:26:41.920 in the last couple of weeks. 1:26:41.960 --> 1:26:42.840 So you go back to the. 1:26:44.560 --> 1:26:47.880 To the Texans game, and I didn't think Trayvon played 1:26:47.960 --> 1:26:52.280 very well the Bengals game. Came out very early in 1:26:52.320 --> 1:26:55.080 the ball game and the right tackle from Alabama JP 1:26:55.400 --> 1:26:59.640 give me a name I don't know, early in the 1:27:01.520 --> 1:27:05.519 thank you Pete, and he literally centers Joonah Williams and 1:27:05.760 --> 1:27:09.280 hits him and knocks him on his can like two 1:27:09.360 --> 1:27:14.800 yards back. And I'm like, all right, okay, establish him power. Now, 1:27:15.240 --> 1:27:17.479 after you establish power and you put the fear of 1:27:17.520 --> 1:27:20.360 God in the guy, now you. 1:27:20.360 --> 1:27:23.400 Counter off of that, you don't go back to power. 1:27:23.680 --> 1:27:24.479 And it didn't happen. 1:27:25.840 --> 1:27:29.080 Well, he goes to Jeff You're right, he goes to 1:27:29.200 --> 1:27:31.200 power early in the game, and then they. 1:27:31.120 --> 1:27:31.840 All figure it out. 1:27:31.920 --> 1:27:32.240 That's all. 1:27:32.280 --> 1:27:34.240 It's gonna be his power, Tony. 1:27:34.280 --> 1:27:35.840 If you knew you had a guy there was nothing 1:27:35.880 --> 1:27:38.080 but power, what do you do? 1:27:37.680 --> 1:27:38.040 What do you do? 1:27:39.439 --> 1:27:41.120 I mean he just first of all, I'd short set 1:27:41.200 --> 1:27:43.439 him every time, and that's what Cleveland did. And he 1:27:43.640 --> 1:27:47.160 was for the most part ineffective backup tackle. For the 1:27:47.200 --> 1:27:49.080 most part. Every time he shorts out of him. It 1:27:49.200 --> 1:27:51.519 was it was over sixty six. 1:27:51.560 --> 1:27:55.400 I can't remember ye his name because the rookie, Hudson, 1:27:55.479 --> 1:27:58.160 thank you, the rookie was out with a with a 1:27:58.240 --> 1:28:01.599 knee injury. The fourth round pick tackle out of Ohio State, who, 1:28:01.600 --> 1:28:05.120 by the way, is a good football player. He's having 1:28:05.240 --> 1:28:07.400 he's yeah, he's having surgery. He's done for the year. 1:28:07.400 --> 1:28:09.840 Though they had asked that to that what happened. 1:28:11.560 --> 1:28:14.800 And and that Hudson, by the way, moments during his 1:28:14.920 --> 1:28:17.200 time playing where he's looked awful. I just want to 1:28:17.200 --> 1:28:17.880 put that out there. 1:28:17.880 --> 1:28:19.880 And he and he held more than held his own 1:28:19.920 --> 1:28:23.479 against Trayvon Walker, and again it's not working. They can 1:28:23.760 --> 1:28:25.080 talk to their blue in the face. He's a good 1:28:25.080 --> 1:28:27.120 football player, is a tough kid. He plays a run well. 1:28:27.160 --> 1:28:29.439 He's a physical guy. He does he does all that. 1:28:29.760 --> 1:28:31.880 He's not a pass rusher, and you drafted him to 1:28:31.920 --> 1:28:32.799 be a pass rusher. 1:28:34.760 --> 1:28:38.240 One more question on fanatics fan questions at jbs Nsley 1:28:38.400 --> 1:28:40.719 thoughts on the offensive a side call on the Bills 1:28:40.760 --> 1:28:43.680 Chiefs game. I thought the Chiefs showed lack of responsibility 1:28:43.680 --> 1:28:45.000 and forced sportsmanship. 1:28:45.280 --> 1:28:47.599 After the game. If he don't let you go first, 1:28:47.640 --> 1:28:49.479 you're the national guy. I got my opinions on it. 1:28:49.560 --> 1:28:50.120 Were I was. 1:28:50.400 --> 1:28:53.280 I was at that game Sunday, and uh, look, we 1:28:53.360 --> 1:28:55.200 saw it right away. He was lined up all sides. 1:28:55.240 --> 1:28:57.920 There's no doubt about it. They act like he pointed down. 1:28:57.960 --> 1:29:00.439 He just pointed. He never got a you know, information 1:29:00.560 --> 1:29:03.040 from the official, but he had done at the entire game. 1:29:03.479 --> 1:29:05.479 And so for the Chiefs to handle it the way 1:29:05.520 --> 1:29:07.720 they did it, I thought it was terrible. And for 1:29:07.880 --> 1:29:11.280 Patrick Mahomes to walk over when Josh Allen's coming over 1:29:11.360 --> 1:29:13.479 to say something to him after the game and to 1:29:13.520 --> 1:29:16.160 bring that up, I thought that was out of character 1:29:16.200 --> 1:29:17.040 and it was out of line. 1:29:17.080 --> 1:29:19.360 I thought it was ridiculous. 1:29:19.600 --> 1:29:22.439 Pete, how much of that is just the frustrations boiling 1:29:22.479 --> 1:29:26.000 over of Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes knowing that they 1:29:26.080 --> 1:29:29.240 don't have the offense that they've had in the past, 1:29:29.280 --> 1:29:31.200 that they really they got to think about how they 1:29:31.200 --> 1:29:34.360 play football because they're really a defensive first team now. 1:29:35.439 --> 1:29:37.120 No doubt about it. They're not scoring points. 1:29:37.160 --> 1:29:40.280 I mean that Buffalo defense has so many guys missing 1:29:40.280 --> 1:29:41.320 and they couldn't score points. 1:29:41.400 --> 1:29:42.200 It's a problem. 1:29:42.360 --> 1:29:44.960 And by the way, anybody who's going to finish in 1:29:45.040 --> 1:29:48.360 the second spot in the AFC you do not want 1:29:48.400 --> 1:29:50.639 to play the Buffalo Bills. I'm telling that the offense 1:29:50.680 --> 1:29:53.960 has come alive. They can score. Next week you'll see it. 1:29:54.040 --> 1:29:56.720 They play Dallas, and you do not. Of all the 1:29:56.760 --> 1:29:58.920 teams that are possibly going to be in the playoffs, 1:29:59.320 --> 1:30:03.840 Jake Brown, Thank Gardner, Minshew, the Broncos, maybe the Texans, 1:30:04.080 --> 1:30:06.920 you'd much rather play all of those teams than Josh 1:30:06.920 --> 1:30:08.120 Allen and the Buffalo Bills. 1:30:09.280 --> 1:30:11.240 Well, Pete, well the good news is we're fourth now, 1:30:11.280 --> 1:30:12.400 so we're in. It's a safe spot. 1:30:13.040 --> 1:30:15.080 And I will say that there might have been a 1:30:15.080 --> 1:30:17.439 little frustration boiling up. Isn't that the third time that 1:30:17.479 --> 1:30:21.600 Buffalo's going to Kansas City and beating beating them? 1:30:22.520 --> 1:30:24.799 Last year they did? No, Yeah, they beat him last. 1:30:24.680 --> 1:30:28.879 Year playoff game. Remember that was a couple of years ago. 1:30:28.840 --> 1:30:31.160 Right, I thought it was three times that they have 1:30:31.280 --> 1:30:34.720 beaten them in in Kansas City. All right, those are 1:30:34.720 --> 1:30:36.720 the fanatics fan questions. Did you get to the guy 1:30:36.760 --> 1:30:38.400 that you blew off for all this all year? 1:30:38.600 --> 1:30:40.519 Yeah, that was the first question. Okay, good for you. Yeah, 1:30:40.600 --> 1:30:42.080 because he came up and was like, why don't you 1:30:42.160 --> 1:30:45.120 answer my questions? Well, Pete, we started the show of 1:30:45.160 --> 1:30:49.920 me reprimanding JP for triple locking and ruining the kid. 1:30:50.760 --> 1:30:55.120 Everybody's every nobody wants hints any anymore. You're out, JP. 1:30:55.520 --> 1:30:58.280 You did I am. I've already set him out. I 1:30:58.320 --> 1:31:00.639 didn't need you to tell me I'm out that from 1:31:00.640 --> 1:31:03.200 the jump. I'm back in a moment, and we'll go 1:31:03.240 --> 1:31:04.720 around the league and pick Monday. 1:31:04.520 --> 1:31:06.719 Night Football and grab your hats. 1:31:06.720 --> 1:31:10.559 Get ready for George Straight with Chris Staples and Little 1:31:10.560 --> 1:31:13.639 Big Town May eleventh, twenty twenty four. 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Shadick, Tony Biselli, Jeff Logoman on location, 1:32:07.360 --> 1:32:10.080 Pete Prisco of course with us and for ten years, 1:32:10.080 --> 1:32:12.080 stream Finders Homes has been proud of call themselves the 1:32:12.080 --> 1:32:16.200 official homebuilder of the Jags. Visit dreamfinders homes dot com 1:32:16.320 --> 1:32:20.000 for all the available inventory and go Jags. How about 1:32:20.439 --> 1:32:22.920 Evan Ingram. He's on pace for over one hundred catches 1:32:22.960 --> 1:32:23.280 this year. 1:32:23.320 --> 1:32:25.640 He's unbelievable, way more than one hundred. That's what I'm 1:32:25.640 --> 1:32:30.280 saying right now. Unreal Now, not huge yards per catch, 1:32:30.720 --> 1:32:32.400 probably won't get to one thousand yards. 1:32:32.439 --> 1:32:35.880 But he is eleventh in the league now in receptions 1:32:36.040 --> 1:32:39.080 and out of the top twenty receivers in receptions in 1:32:39.120 --> 1:32:43.160 the National Football League. He has the highest catch percentage, 1:32:43.520 --> 1:32:44.360 which is impressive. 1:32:44.439 --> 1:32:47.160 He remember coming in from the Giants, the book on 1:32:47.240 --> 1:32:49.840 him is that he had the drops oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:32:50.040 --> 1:32:51.599 and just I mean, I know we got to get 1:32:51.600 --> 1:32:53.280 the rest of league. But real quick thing on Evan 1:32:54.000 --> 1:32:56.760 if you have maybe some of our fans already know this, 1:32:56.880 --> 1:33:00.559 but I don't think there's a harder worker in the 1:33:00.640 --> 1:33:04.240 organization right now than Evan Ingram of like, I mean, 1:33:04.360 --> 1:33:06.000 I'm not I don't know how much film he watches. 1:33:06.040 --> 1:33:07.599 I think a lot and a lot of guys are 1:33:08.080 --> 1:33:11.360 work their work ethics great on this team, but this 1:33:11.400 --> 1:33:14.040 is a guy before after practice, before the game, is 1:33:14.120 --> 1:33:17.800 working on his craft constantly and it's paying. 1:33:17.560 --> 1:33:22.120 Off one of the great acquisitions in Jaguars history and 1:33:22.160 --> 1:33:24.559 free agency. And I remember, I don't want to bring 1:33:24.640 --> 1:33:27.559 up the past, but you and I arguing because I 1:33:27.680 --> 1:33:29.680 was a big fan of that sign, and You're like, 1:33:29.840 --> 1:33:32.960 I don't know stru one. 1:33:32.840 --> 1:33:33.920 Thing that I wish with Evan. 1:33:34.160 --> 1:33:37.720 I wish more defenses treated him like a true tight end. 1:33:37.800 --> 1:33:40.720 Well, the problem they don't and they can't, and part 1:33:40.760 --> 1:33:42.599 of it is because, I mean, Evan is not an 1:33:42.600 --> 1:33:47.320 in line tight end that's going to dominate a DEFENSI end. 1:33:47.320 --> 1:33:49.720 I mean he's not George Kittle. George Kittle is a 1:33:50.200 --> 1:33:52.400 like an offensive tackle blocking. 1:33:52.040 --> 1:33:54.920 And if you get a little bit more favorable match 1:33:55.520 --> 1:33:56.799 he gets a lot of corner looks. 1:33:56.960 --> 1:33:59.680 He gets all the time, so it's not as big 1:33:59.720 --> 1:34:00.839 as the match difference. 1:34:01.000 --> 1:34:03.920 Let's take a quick look around the NFL. Let's start off, though, 1:34:03.920 --> 1:34:06.880 with the AFC playoff chase going into the night. 1:34:07.439 --> 1:34:08.920 The Ravens the number one seed. 1:34:08.960 --> 1:34:11.360 Currently, the Dolphins played a night on Monday Night Football, 1:34:11.360 --> 1:34:13.000 they're the number two. If they win tonight, they be 1:34:13.040 --> 1:34:16.760 back at number one. Chiefs Jaguars three and four, then 1:34:16.800 --> 1:34:19.760 the Browns at five in the wild card race. Then 1:34:19.800 --> 1:34:22.280 there are what six teams peate that are seven and 1:34:22.400 --> 1:34:24.559 six in the AFC. This thing is gonna go out. 1:34:24.479 --> 1:34:24.920 On the wire. 1:34:25.320 --> 1:34:27.400 Yeah, if you look at the schedules, you know some 1:34:27.560 --> 1:34:29.760 teams have are gonna end up playing each A lot 1:34:29.760 --> 1:34:32.559 of those teams play each other, you know, like you 1:34:32.600 --> 1:34:35.000 look at the Bengals play a bunch of those teams, 1:34:35.040 --> 1:34:37.800 and you know, the Texans played the Colts the end 1:34:37.840 --> 1:34:38.200 of the year. 1:34:38.439 --> 1:34:40.040 So I think it's gonna play out. 1:34:40.040 --> 1:34:43.040 But if Buffalo beats Dallas this week, they have two 1:34:43.040 --> 1:34:45.280 winnable games and then their final game of the season 1:34:45.320 --> 1:34:48.759 will be at Miami, and the question becomes will Miami 1:34:48.840 --> 1:34:49.120 need it? 1:34:49.160 --> 1:34:50.680 They probably will, but you never know. 1:34:50.840 --> 1:34:53.519 So I think Buffalo wins this week against Dallas, they're 1:34:53.520 --> 1:34:55.120 gonna get in. They're gonna be the seventh seat, and 1:34:55.120 --> 1:34:56.320 again you don't want to play them. 1:34:56.960 --> 1:34:57.160 You know. 1:34:57.240 --> 1:35:00.000 The Texan situation is interesting. They had lost that game, 1:35:00.160 --> 1:35:00.960 they were terrible. 1:35:01.120 --> 1:35:01.360 C J. 1:35:01.479 --> 1:35:04.360 Stroud was awful against the Jets on Sunday before he 1:35:04.400 --> 1:35:14.840 got hurt, and now it's even more of a problem. 1:35:11.200 --> 1:35:14.439 Behind the scenes sign language. I thought someone's gonna see 1:35:14.720 --> 1:35:15.920 I don't know all I know. 1:35:15.960 --> 1:35:18.960 It's Monday Night football. It's two for the price of one. 1:35:19.040 --> 1:35:21.240 We started in South Florida, where to a tongue of 1:35:21.280 --> 1:35:23.599 by low A Tyreek Hill and the nine and three 1:35:23.600 --> 1:35:26.080 Miami Dolphins look to stay at the top of the AFC. 1:35:26.680 --> 1:35:28.040 They entertained the four. 1:35:27.800 --> 1:35:31.559 And eight Tennessee Titans plus the six and six Green 1:35:31.640 --> 1:35:33.559 Bay Packers, with Jordan Love playing well. 1:35:33.880 --> 1:35:36.559 Visit the four and eight New York Football Giants. Oh 1:35:36.640 --> 1:35:39.360 you got in both, Tony, Wow, you nailed it. 1:35:39.479 --> 1:35:43.639 I mean, after three weeks ago completely flubbing everything, you're 1:35:43.680 --> 1:35:45.719 on a streak and you had back to back. 1:35:45.880 --> 1:35:46.719 I give you credit. 1:35:46.760 --> 1:35:47.000 Jp. 1:35:47.200 --> 1:35:49.599 I'm not locking to either one. No, you're not allowed 1:35:49.600 --> 1:35:51.559 to lock anything. I mean, I think the Dolphins boat 1:35:51.640 --> 1:35:56.360 race the Titans, and I think Green Bay is man. 1:35:56.360 --> 1:35:59.040 That's the youngest team in the NFL. Give Matt Lafure 1:35:59.360 --> 1:36:02.360 a ton of it and that young roster. They're doing 1:36:02.400 --> 1:36:04.639 a good job. And Jordan Loves starting. I mean watching 1:36:04.680 --> 1:36:07.040 him last week Monday Night football is like, my goodness, 1:36:07.080 --> 1:36:11.879 this guy's not bad. Turn out, go ahead, I'm taking Miami. 1:36:12.800 --> 1:36:15.400 I mean that's an easy Titan just can't get They 1:36:15.439 --> 1:36:17.840 can't keep pace with that feet And who's green Bay 1:36:17.840 --> 1:36:18.960 playing Giants? 1:36:19.000 --> 1:36:20.920 Because I got so distracted by your inne do you 1:36:21.000 --> 1:36:23.280 like it? I mean, you really think I'm gonna pick 1:36:23.320 --> 1:36:25.280 the Giants? We could do that on Thursdays if you want. 1:36:25.520 --> 1:36:27.439 I'm really gonna pick the Giants. I mean, is the 1:36:27.520 --> 1:36:30.040 kid that's still staying at home with his mom. 1:36:34.160 --> 1:36:34.800 Can't do that? 1:36:34.880 --> 1:36:38.960 Come on, look, I'm not I'm not picking a quarterback. Pete. 1:36:39.040 --> 1:36:41.840 Okay, that still ends up having his mom make his 1:36:41.920 --> 1:36:42.880 bed on a daily base. 1:36:42.960 --> 1:36:43.639 So you got Pete. 1:36:43.680 --> 1:36:46.880 Sorry, Hey, Tebow's dad was on the practice field every 1:36:46.920 --> 1:36:47.599 day in Florida. 1:36:47.640 --> 1:36:50.200 He wanted Heasman trophy, so he's got that going for. 1:36:52.320 --> 1:36:54.559 Didn't work for him in the NFL, though, Pete. Yeah, 1:36:54.600 --> 1:36:55.439 we're talking about. 1:36:55.240 --> 1:36:58.240 Thet I got the Dolphins, and I think the Giants 1:36:58.240 --> 1:36:59.800 will hang around. But I think green Bay wins the 1:36:59.840 --> 1:37:01.599 game again. I think it's going to be a little 1:37:01.600 --> 1:37:02.879 closer than expected. 1:37:02.960 --> 1:37:04.880 Green Bay. Keep an eye on them. They are going 1:37:04.960 --> 1:37:05.880 to make the postseason. 1:37:07.600 --> 1:37:11.439 Oh that's a call? Is that a lock? We're not 1:37:11.560 --> 1:37:14.080 walking this week. We're taking a break off. No locks, 1:37:14.120 --> 1:37:16.400 no locks this week, no locks this week. I am 1:37:18.920 --> 1:37:22.600 right now, I am not Pete. 1:37:24.280 --> 1:37:26.519 This is how we do Monday's logs. Thanks for coming out, 1:37:26.560 --> 1:37:28.760 many thanks, thanks for joining us. Thanks for the free food. 1:37:28.800 --> 1:37:30.800 That's Jeff Logan, I got you. 1:37:30.920 --> 1:37:31.599 You got your. 1:37:31.600 --> 1:37:34.280 Pete Brisco, Tony MASSELLI covered it all our entire crew 1:37:34.520 --> 1:37:36.920 here and back of the stadium. 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