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Speaker 1: It is Monday, December eleventh. This is Jetuars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now

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Speaker 1: a guy who could eat some wings. Ravens have wings,

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Speaker 1: Jay p Check and welcome.

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Speaker 2: He is Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday, December eleventh,

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Speaker 2: the first hour of Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet

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Speaker 2: Home Loans. We are live on location at mister Chubby's

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Speaker 2: Wings in Panavidre Beach. Fantastic setup for us today and

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Speaker 2: a busy two hours ahead. After a Jaguars loss to

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns yesterday thirty one to twenty seven in

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Speaker 2: the final, the Jaguars are still in the lead in

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Speaker 2: the AFC South. All the other teams chasing them lost yesterday,

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Speaker 2: so they didn't lose any ground up. Next the Baltimore

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Speaker 2: Ravens on Sunday Night football, the first Jaguars Sunday Night here.

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Speaker 2: It's since two thousand and eight. Oh yeah, a really

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Speaker 2: good football team coming in, keeping it real as we

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Speaker 2: always do. In the second hour, fanatics, fan questions, and

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Speaker 2: plenty of time for you to get down to Panaviter

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Speaker 2: Beach to join us in person. We're on tentionin XL

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Speaker 2: Amjaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube Hall of Famer Tony Vaselli

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Speaker 2: with us as always, Jags analyst Jeff Loghman stepping in.

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Speaker 2: It's a home game for both of you, guys, and

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Speaker 2: good afternoon, Tony doing good.

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Speaker 3: No PD today, he's uh traveling. Well. We might have

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Speaker 3: him on the phone in the second hour. Just yeah, No,

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Speaker 3: I mean word is he was afraid to come in

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Speaker 3: because you know, he doesn't like dissecting watses very much.

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Speaker 3: I think that he likes that more than wins.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 3: I'm being sarcastic JP. This is he was. He is

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Speaker 3: very sad that he can't be here with us today

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Speaker 3: because he he enjoys pointing out all the problems. Well, logs,

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Speaker 3: there were a lot of problems. That's the issue.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this.

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Speaker 2: The last two weeks they've lost by a combined seven points. However,

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Speaker 2: they've lost and it just feels a little uneasy.

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Speaker 3: This guy is falling, is it.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you there's a lot of things not

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Speaker 2: to be happy about, but I think the majority of

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Speaker 2: them are fixable. But challenging to fix, I think is

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Speaker 2: a good way to put it. That's a AM.

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Speaker 3: I am I being kind? No, I mean the way

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Speaker 3: I would say it is.

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Speaker 2: Because I don't want to come off as being a

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Speaker 2: guy that's just wearing the teal colored glasses here.

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Speaker 3: That's Tony we call a happy hour. The The reality

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Speaker 3: is this, You're not gonna do anything even if you

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Speaker 3: make the playoffs if you don't play better. And I

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Speaker 3: think some of it is absolutely fixable, and some of

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Speaker 3: it is reared its ugly head because of injuries and

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Speaker 3: you know, he scratching things and we'll go through the

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Speaker 3: you know, the misd assignments, the turnovers, everything else. I mean,

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Speaker 3: so this team has to start from ground zero of like,

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Speaker 3: let's start the game by not beating ourselves. We're not

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Speaker 3: good enough. And really no team in the NFL is

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Speaker 3: good enough where you beat yourself. And this team the

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Speaker 3: last two weeks has beat itself with turnovers, with missed

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Speaker 3: dessignments and just poor play. So you and I think

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Speaker 3: that's what Jeff's talking about. That is that fixable. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: those are all fixable things. I mean, if they fix

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Speaker 3: like half of them, they win. Sure, you think, I mean,

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Speaker 3: who knows, but go in with the mindset no good

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Speaker 3: team in the history of this league consistently wins. When

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Speaker 3: you beat yourself, when you have stupid penalties, stupid mistakes,

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Speaker 3: misd assignments are killing this lea killing this team. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna leading to some of the leading to some of

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Speaker 3: the turnovers, frankly, but then you go back. I also

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Speaker 3: think like we are a We're a good team. I

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Speaker 3: mean that. I said that two weeks ago after we

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Speaker 3: beat Houston. Going into these two games, I feel like

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Speaker 3: we're a good team. I feel like we can compete

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Speaker 3: with anyone in the AFC. That I have not changed

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Speaker 3: my thoughts there at all. Now it's a bigger challenge

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Speaker 3: because of the injuries we've we've had. However, I also

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Speaker 3: think sometimes when you win and the teams we were

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Speaker 3: playing and guys were making plays and the ball was

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Speaker 3: bouncing airways at times, but they were playing good football,

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Speaker 3: it also causes you to overlook some systemic issues. And

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Speaker 3: I think this team has some systemic issues that's gonna

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Speaker 3: that's gonna be a challenge for them to win in January,

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Speaker 3: and that is controlling the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and trending in the wrong direction in some key

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Speaker 3: Defensively, they're in the wrong direction. I think they had

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair, but here but here's here's the issue.

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Speaker 2: Your backs are now hurt, and then right with okay,

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Speaker 2: the the the issues up front still being there, it

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Speaker 2: makes it look even worse. And now also your quarterback's hurt.

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Speaker 2: You lost a wide receiver and your best wide receiver,

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Speaker 2: so now you've got to lean into other areas. And

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Speaker 2: the problem is right now this team is having a

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Speaker 2: hard time leaning on those other areas. And defensively, they're

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Speaker 2: not playing the way that they did earlier in the

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Speaker 2: year to where they were jam up against the run

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Speaker 2: and then finding a way to get it done against

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Speaker 2: the pass, and one of the best teams in the

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Speaker 2: league at one point on third down defense, and right

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Speaker 2: now they're not stopping and running. The last time I

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Speaker 2: checked Joe Flacco and Jake Browning, we're not exactly up

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Speaker 2: rush alan quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: They're the backups.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's the fourth quarterback of the year for

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Speaker 2: the Browns and Flacco was on the couch three weeks

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Speaker 3: So literally, that part of it for me is very concerning. Well,

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Speaker 3: I mean I think, I mean, this is game seven.

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Speaker 3: I believe that we have averaged under four yards and

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Speaker 3: carry on the ground offensively. And here's what happens when

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Speaker 3: that becomes a trend.

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Speaker 2: It was the lowest total output of the season, by

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Speaker 2: the way, fifty eight yards rushing.

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Speaker 3: And if you take away Trevor Lawrence's three rushes for

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Speaker 3: eleven yards, the backs average seven you know, two point

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Speaker 3: what you're seeing, which is super concerning, is I think

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Speaker 3: there's a complete lack of faith to run the ball

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Speaker 3: between the tackles from our play callers, I mean press

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Speaker 3: Taylor and then obviously Doug's part of that as well.

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Speaker 3: You look at everything we do it it has to

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Speaker 3: be you know, some kind of pin and pole play,

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Speaker 3: get outside misdirection with the wham, but nothing we don't

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Speaker 3: line up and run downhill. And what that is now

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Speaker 3: doing is influencing how we called the game. And we

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Speaker 3: had fifty pass attempts, only seventeen called running plays. We

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Speaker 3: had fifty three call play passing places because Trevor scramble

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Speaker 3: times was he sacked? Four times? So actually, I'm sorry

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Speaker 3: we called fifty seven pass plays. That's not ideal. We

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Speaker 3: called seventeen run plays. It was third in less than

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Speaker 3: a yard and we're an empty shotgun.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: Everyone could say press Taylor this, Press Taylor that, and

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Speaker 3: I said it this morning. I'll say it again now.

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Speaker 3: As an offensive lineman, you have to earn the right

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Speaker 3: and build confidence in your play caller that they can

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Speaker 3: call the ball, call the run, and you can go

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Speaker 3: get a yard. And somebody tell me and JP, you

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Speaker 3: know this, there's not a bigger apologist for this offense

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Speaker 3: line than me, and I always will back those guys.

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Speaker 3: But reality's reality, Jeff. When you can't get a yard

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Speaker 3: in the NFL and you can, I watch how Press

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Speaker 3: is calling plays. Now, tell me how many things we

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Speaker 3: call between the tackles downhill, wind up and run inside

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Speaker 3: outside zone, or run power and just go downhill. We

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Speaker 3: don't even try it.

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Speaker 2: Third tried it. It goes backwards, you know. And give

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Speaker 2: you a perfect example of there was one run play

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Speaker 2: that really stuck out in my mind. Yes, Antonio will

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Speaker 2: probably remember this one very well, and that Shatley at

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Speaker 3: First play of the second No, yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 2: The second half, okay, And so you're trying to get

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Speaker 2: a defensive tackle, which look, Jim Schwartz's defenses, they're taught

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Speaker 2: to get up the field.

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Speaker 3: That's what they do. And you know that, okay, you

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Speaker 3: know that there's.

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Speaker 2: Penetration and to to the point where he literally the

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Speaker 2: the minus five or minus six yard game that ETN had.

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Speaker 2: And it's like, how can you run the ball if

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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, I mean, you just you got to

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Speaker 2: be better than that. And if you're not going to

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Speaker 2: be better than that, then you go the route of

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Speaker 2: what I think Press Taylor is doing right now, which

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Speaker 2: is just saying not even going to try to run it,

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna go ahead and throw it.

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Speaker 3: Let's spread it out and throw it down the field.

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Speaker 3: But that's problematic. Oh yeah, that is the when I

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Speaker 3: say systemic problems, I think we overlook because when you're winning.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying the coaches do. I think they've I mean,

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Speaker 3: but it's us covering the game. And you know, Jeff

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Speaker 3: and I probably less because we watch the tape and

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Speaker 3: talk about it after each game. But just like as

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Speaker 3: a fan or a casual observer, even covering the team,

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Speaker 3: when you're winning. You know, I say it all the time.

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Speaker 3: Winning is like the great gravy at Thanksgiving. It can

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Speaker 3: take a dry piece of turkey and make it really

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Speaker 3: dang good if you throw a little stuffing of mass

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Speaker 3: Medale's around it. And winning is that gravy. It makes

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Speaker 3: everything better. But in a gravy, you can't figure out

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Speaker 3: what's underneath of it. That's that's exact. Great. But but

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Speaker 3: now you look at you're in December, it gets cold,

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Speaker 3: it gets harder. You're fighting for playoff. I mean, we

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Speaker 3: are playing a team yesterday that's in the playoff race,

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Speaker 3: fighting for their lives too, and now you're gonna get in.

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Speaker 3: I believe this team will still win the division. I

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Speaker 3: still think they're the best team in the division. So

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Speaker 3: you're gonna get a home playoff game. But if you

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Speaker 3: can't run the ball in the playoffs or stop the run,

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Speaker 3: it is really hard to advance.

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Speaker 2: Let's we'll get back to the offense and just a

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Speaker 2: little bit in Trevor Lawrence's performance. Well, let's touch on

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Speaker 2: that defense again. And yeah, it doesn't slow down this

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Speaker 2: week with the Ravens coming to town and the best

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Speaker 2: rushing offense in the National Football League led by the

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Speaker 2: quarterback a dual threat in Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of.

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Speaker 2: All, the Jaguars haven't done a very good job lately

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Speaker 2: against the run. And then you add in the communication issues.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you had three explosive plays in that ball

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Speaker 2: came yesterday that I mean, we're like that when you

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Speaker 2: watch the plate went, who's supposed to cover that guy?

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Speaker 3: And that's a problem.

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Speaker 2: And from the Najoku first third and one, which, oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, third and one, Cleveland Browns lined up

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Speaker 2: to run the ball, okay, and you're taking it seriously,

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Speaker 2: and then he hit a big play, right, That's kind

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Speaker 2: of what you want your offense to be able to do. Okay,

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Speaker 2: But you can't do that because nobody's gonna line up

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think it was Tillman. Tillman was nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Well it's week fifteen like issues. And I understand that.

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Speaker 3: All the time out probably idea I don't.

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Speaker 2: number two, Uh, stop explosives.

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Speaker 2: They've got to change the direction that they're going because

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Speaker 3: Bit plenty ahead.

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Speaker 2: the offensive performance. And Tony, you're gonna start naming names.

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Speaker 4: They're just too many of these communications.

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Speaker 6: You know, we've been playing, we've been playing together for

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Speaker 4: And that's just stuff that can't happen, you know, for

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Speaker 6: You know, we've got to be on the same page.

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Speaker 6: And there it seemed like all those plays that we

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Speaker 4: Get away with it and it doesn't bite you.

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Speaker 6: It seemed like this week they all did turned into

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Speaker 4: I think we're over the loo in some of.

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Speaker 6: The details, and I think that's where some of the

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Speaker 2: That is the quarterback Trevor Lawrence after the game yesterday

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Speaker 2: at Mister Chubby's Wings and Panavitra Beach. We are here

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Speaker 2: until six o'clock rehashing because we must. A Jaguars loss

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Speaker 2: to Cleveland. Miscommunications, Trever Lawrence talking about I mean, what

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Speaker 4: Me?

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Speaker 3: Let me come on. There's another way to say that.

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Speaker 3: I think that Trevor, and I'm not saying he's without

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Speaker 3: some assumption. Well, we love to hear your series, but

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Speaker 2: I mean that's what at least that's what we used

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Speaker 3: Somebody screwed up. And it is clear on certain situations

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Speaker 3: it's I believe it's first in tent on that play

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Speaker 2: Post but a very nonchalant doesn't even get his head

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Speaker 2: Much like, let's go back real quick before we go

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Speaker 3: That's right, Parker Washington.

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Speaker 2: He was expecting Parker Washington to do something and he

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Speaker 2: It's you got to be precise, that's right, and you've

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Speaker 3: Correct, all you can go further, Jeff, not only I'm

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, here's the play. Trevor gets the ball

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Speaker 3: Right finish the play.

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Speaker 2: And my point is is that this year a lot

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Speaker 2: That's twenty seven targets only nine receptions between your two

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Speaker 3: Ingram are they are they our top guys?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, receiver wise, Ingram's the guy I think,

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Speaker 2: I mean the offense. I mean this real quick, Evan okay,

439
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Speaker 2: twelve targets, eleven receptions. Okay, And I'm not saying that

440
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Speaker 2: that's the kind of number that you expect out of

441
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Speaker 2: your top receivers every week. But I mean, if you

442
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Speaker 2: look at the top receivers in the league, their catch

443
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Speaker 2: percentage is much higher, oh yeah, than where it's at

444
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Speaker 2: for the Jaguars wide receiver. And that has to be better.

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Speaker 2: And it's exactly what Trevor's talking about. Trevor's talking about dependability,

446
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Speaker 2: you know, and we've got to be accountable. And look,

447
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Speaker 2: he's trying to own some of the responsibility himself and

448
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Speaker 2: making sure that he's deflecting it and owning some.

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Speaker 3: Of it himself.

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Speaker 2: But here's the problem when your quarterback starts talking about

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Speaker 2: that stuff.

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Speaker 3: It's been going on for a little while, yeah, and

453
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Speaker 3: it's a problem.

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Speaker 2: We remember early in the season when Ridley had the

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Speaker 2: drop and then the next drive had a false start,

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Speaker 2: and then he later in the game had another drop

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Speaker 2: and had a second false start, and it just kind

458
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Speaker 2: of snowballed for him in that game alone. You know,

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Speaker 2: in a game like this, same idea. Right on the

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Speaker 2: Parker Washington touchdown, on the other side of the play,

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Speaker 2: it looked like like looking at the referee on.

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Speaker 3: The side, I think he was arguing with the referee

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Speaker 3: because if if you go back to that play, that

464
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Speaker 3: was the play that the Uhmarius, None, that's Notarius Darius Smith,

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Speaker 3: thank you. Zadarius Smith is off sides because he thinks

466
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Speaker 3: we're we've moved. He's standing in the neutral zone and

467
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Speaker 3: somehow the official doesn't call the fight.

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Speaker 2: Which is terrible because he's this is worse than Tony.

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Speaker 3: He's standing in the neutral zone. Yes, and and I

470
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Speaker 3: think Darius Tony is off side. This is at least

471
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Speaker 3: is way better. This is a much yes, much more obvious.

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Speaker 3: And I think Calvin, which I'm not saying he should be,

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Speaker 3: he should just go run, go run the it's a

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Speaker 3: free play if you whatever is I think it's the

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Speaker 3: same play. He's arguing with the official.

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Speaker 2: Why the officials not going to that's what the job

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Speaker 2: just decription is of a coach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot going on, I mean, but let's

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Speaker 3: go back to I mean, how do they fix it?

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Speaker 2: By the way, real quick, On that play, Trevor didn't

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Speaker 2: throw to the right guy but turned out all right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, very lucky, very lucky because that ball should

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Speaker 2: have been intercepted. But Evan Ingram was the open guy.

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Speaker 2: He literally leaks out late to the right and and

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Speaker 2: it's it's a walk in touchdown and an easy throw

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Speaker 2: for Trevor.

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Speaker 3: He Trevor missed that one. Well, he didn't want Evan

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Speaker 3: to have three touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: On Yeah, that's probably spread. Hey, how do they figure

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Speaker 2: this out though? This communication issue? Is it too late

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Speaker 2: in this week fifteen? Again, like, well, you know there's

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Speaker 2: four big games left.

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Speaker 3: Well, we've talked about this in the past. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you have there's two solutions. Either players have, I mean,

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Speaker 3: and both can be you can do both at the

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Speaker 3: same time. Number One, it's your job. Know the playbook,

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Speaker 3: be accountable to your teammates and to the to the

498
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Speaker 3: organization you're getting paid to play for football. Know what

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Speaker 3: you are supposed to do. If you don't understand and ask,

500
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Speaker 3: it's just simple work, study, film, practice, repeat. It's not

501
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Speaker 3: there's no secret formula. Like these teams who are on

502
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Speaker 3: the same page, they do something different. So it starts

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Speaker 3: with player of accountability, Trevor, all the receivers, offensive line,

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Speaker 3: player accountability. Know your job and do your job. Secondly,

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Speaker 3: I think it's the job of the coaching staff. I

506
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Speaker 3: think you've got to look at say are we asking

507
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Speaker 3: too much? Because at the end of the day, your

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Speaker 3: job as a coach to put your players in a

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Speaker 3: position to succeed and only and give them what they

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Speaker 3: can handle. And I'll say the same thing on defense.

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Speaker 3: If you're having busts every game where, guys, that's not fair.

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Speaker 3: Not every game, but if you're having busts that are

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Speaker 3: costing you games, either you have guys who aren't studying,

514
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Speaker 3: preparing and are ready, or you're giving them too much

515
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Speaker 3: and you have to simple fy it so guys can

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Speaker 3: play fast. And I think so I think if I'm

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Speaker 3: you know, if you're pressed tailor and you look at

518
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Speaker 3: the game plan, do you take a step back and say, Okay,

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Speaker 3: what are we going to put in? Because obviously we

520
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Speaker 3: can't handle. And at the same time, I mean, this

521
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Speaker 3: is a very simple relationship the players. You have to

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Speaker 3: earn the confidence and the trust of the coaching staff. Sure, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's your job, and so they need to go And

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Speaker 3: Trevor said it best look in the mirror, have an

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Speaker 3: honest assessment, saying getting am I doing everything I need

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Speaker 3: to to be prepared for Sunday? And am I doing

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Speaker 3: my job on Sunday? And if not, you need to

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Speaker 3: change those things.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a couple solutions from a coaching standpoint. Okay,

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Speaker 2: once you look at it and you say, okay, are

531
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Speaker 2: we asking too much? And if the answer is no, okay,

532
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Speaker 2: then you go to the player and see if you

533
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Speaker 2: can fix it. And then if all of a sudden

534
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Speaker 2: you can't fix it, then you go to another player

535
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Speaker 2: to try to fix it. I mean, it's just how

536
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Speaker 2: it works. I mean it's you know, you got to

537
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Speaker 2: be able to have production to pendability, availability, reliability, accountability, production.

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Speaker 3: A lot of abilities. That's a long list of abilities. Well,

539
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Speaker 3: and you know, when you look at the offense, it's

540
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Speaker 3: a it's an interesting dilemma they have because they're beat

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Speaker 3: up up front. I mean we're on our fourth left tackle.

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe you know, I know, there's the way

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Speaker 3: it sounds like that he was cleared. Yeah, there's no

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Speaker 3: structural damage that sounds like. And in the I guess

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Speaker 3: there's some there's a possibility they might get Walker a

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Speaker 3: little bit, so that would that's a good start. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you need you always want your best players out there.

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Speaker 3: But you look at the trend. We're on six to

549
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Speaker 3: seven whatever games it is, eight games where we can't

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Speaker 3: you know, we're having a hard time rushing at the

551
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Speaker 3: length of the football. I don't think the formula for

552
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Speaker 3: this team is to have fifty seven pass plays in

553
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Speaker 3: seventeen rushes. That's not sustainable. So now you have to

554
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Speaker 3: think about we're not going to find brand new personnel.

555
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Speaker 3: I mean Louke Luke Fortner is a second year young

556
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Speaker 3: player who is not playing physical. He does not move people.

557
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Speaker 3: He's a position blocker. That's a problem if you want

558
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Speaker 3: to run downhill. Brandon Sheriffs has had all kinds of

559
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Speaker 3: lower body angers and angles at this point of his career.

560
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Speaker 3: He is not a smash mouth, hand in the ground,

561
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Speaker 3: grind it, move you off the ball. He's very athletic,

562
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Speaker 3: he's very smart. He gets like he's a good stable force.

563
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Speaker 3: But that's just and so I think if you're press,

564
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Speaker 3: you know that you're not changing that unless you're willing

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Speaker 3: to change personnel. If those if that's your center and

566
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Speaker 3: that's your right guard. Got a rookie right tackle who's

567
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Speaker 3: very athletic, good player. I didn't think he was his

568
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Speaker 3: best on Sunday. I've seen him play much better coming in,

569
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Speaker 3: but he's a solid player. You got questions that left guard.

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Speaker 3: Shatley's a guy who's been around and you got huge

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Speaker 3: questions at left tackle because Blake Canser is your fourth guy.

572
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Speaker 3: And so you get to step back and say, we're

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Speaker 3: going into a game this week against If you think

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Speaker 3: Cleveland was physical, Baltimore's front seven is two X is physical.

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Speaker 2: I saw a number today real quick, the forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 2: I think their point differential this year is like plus

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Speaker 2: two eighty and the second place team and point differential

578
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Speaker 2: are the Ravens are like plus one sixty five point differential. Boy, gad,

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Speaker 2: that's unbelievable good I mean for I mean both numbers.

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Speaker 2: I mean the San Francisco one is just maybe I'm

581
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Speaker 2: a little high on that, but they're clearly that is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you can confirm that, JP, but I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 2: that's what the numbers were of. And I saw that,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my gosh, because the first

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Speaker 2: one that I saw was the forty nine Ers. And

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Speaker 2: then I said, all right, well let's see who would

587
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Speaker 2: be in second place. San franc at won seventy five

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Speaker 2: net points and Dallas at one eighty eight now by

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Speaker 2: the way, plus yeah overall net.

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Speaker 3: Point after blowing them out last night.

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Speaker 2: After Baltimore, Baltimore's yeah, right, you're you're in the right neighbors.

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Speaker 2: But your point is the Jaguars are twenty two and

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Speaker 2: you're But your.

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Speaker 3: Point is you're Forget about the point, because I think

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Speaker 3: it's all valid points. My biggest concern, based on how

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Speaker 3: we are playing football right now and watching how at

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Speaker 3: least the field from the sense of watching tape and

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Speaker 3: watching it live, that Press feels like he has to

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Speaker 3: call the game right now, that he can't run the

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Speaker 3: ball and play a physical game offensively. It's not who

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Speaker 3: they are, well you were now facing. I think this

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Speaker 3: is a much better defense. I know Cleveland's numbers I

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Speaker 3: think are a little bit better. As far as yards

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Speaker 3: given up per game, there were number one in Baltimores

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Speaker 3: number two. I think Baltimore's better because they're better. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they don't have Miles Garrett, but they have about three

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Speaker 3: or four guys who can rush the passer and get

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Speaker 3: after it. And this is a physical game. So it

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Speaker 3: would be very interesting how do you neutralize that defensive

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Speaker 3: front that you know is in me physical when that

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Speaker 3: really isn't you're calling card right now as a team.

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Speaker 3: So a couple of things JP, because we have not

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Speaker 3: because we obviously missed Monday Night. It's good, it's while

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Speaker 3: it's been a while. There's a lot of noise chatter

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Speaker 3: going on that frankly, you are the cause of this

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Speaker 3: two games mean two game losing streaks. Yeah, because uh,

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Speaker 3: where Pete and I had a very good thing going.

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Speaker 3: We've been calling wins, locking them, double locking them, and

652
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: we've been right every time. And then all of a sudden,

653
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Speaker 3: as we're leaving and going out the Monday, the week

654
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: prior to the Bengals game, you scream out, triple lock. Yeah,

655
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Speaker 3: and ever since the triple lock, we have not won

656
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Speaker 3: a game. It's true. However, I did call the Packers.

657
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Speaker 2: No one cares, No one cares. It was what it

658
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: helped us out if we if we keep losing, that's

659
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: not gonna matter. No, but I did call out, so

660
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: we need to figure out. Well, I'm gonna figure this out.

661
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,959
Speaker 2: For JP, I will never lock anything again. Good ever, good,

662
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 2: I'm off the locks. It was a one and done.

663
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: I piled on a.

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Speaker 3: Little too much. It was a flag.

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Speaker 2: It was yeah, it was it was a yeah. I

666
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Speaker 2: would have been flagged and probably ejected.

667
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Speaker 3: Yes, it was. So I just want to make sure

668
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 3: that kind of a bandwagon move. No, it's fair. Triple lock.

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Speaker 3: And Jeff, you know like you do exactly and you

670
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Speaker 3: know when you feel it in the moment, like that

671
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: was a bad idea, it's immediately what you said. I

672
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 3: immediately told him wh he said. I said that was bad.

673
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: It's a bad idea. I don't like you doing that.

674
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Speaker 3: And JP, you need to learn. Yeah, well I'm learning.

675
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go quadruple.

676
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Speaker 2: I had to watch those last two games to Tony,

677
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Speaker 2: I'm learning, don't worry my.

678
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Speaker 3: Good what so we just served man? Yeah, he tell

679
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Speaker 3: you what I mean.

680
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: Those guys are out there a lot because there's injuries

681
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: in the second area now right. But Campbell Herndon Cisco

682
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: left the game yesterday.

683
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Speaker 3: Jeff, because remind me he was a safety in college,

684
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Speaker 3: wasn't he?

685
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Speaker 2: Yes, he was, well, he played safety and nickel and

686
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: then in this game he played nickel.

687
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Speaker 3: Yeah I knew this, Yeah, he played nickel. And I

688
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: mean it's a small sample size. We saw him in

689
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Speaker 3: camp and we see him a little bit in the

690
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Speaker 3: regular season. But boy, I like, I like what I

691
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 3: was telling you right now. I mean, I said, training

692
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 3: camp and he has the injury though that slowed him down.

693
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: This guy's stuck.

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Speaker 2: He has great feet, his good speed, he's physical, Like

695
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Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, not bad.

696
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Speaker 3: Now, it's a small sample size. You gotta And I'd

697
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Speaker 3: still at this point rather have Trey Herndon out there

698
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: because Trey Herndon is in the right spot right time.

699
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: He might be limited and man coverage it certain in

700
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Speaker 3: certain matchups because but he is physical in the run game.

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Speaker 2: You're starting safety next year. Probably he's a great blitzer.

702
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Speaker 2: You're starting safeties next year. And Johnson, Yeah, I mean,

703
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: and and here's the other thing that he can do.

704
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: I mean, he reminds me a lot of Kyle Hamilton,

705
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Speaker 2: you know, which is the safety for the Ravens who

706
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 2: got dinged up I think yesterday. And he's got the

707
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Speaker 2: length and he plays Nickel, and he's you know, most

708
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Speaker 2: people are. I remember the first time I watched Kyle

709
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Speaker 2: Hamilton on film and I was like, there's no way

710
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Speaker 2: that a guy that's got the length like him can

711
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: play Nickel in the NFL, because that's what he was

712
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: doing a little bit of in college at Notre Dame.

713
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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden he gets to the

714
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Speaker 2: NFL and Nickel I'm talking like really good at him,

715
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Speaker 2: and I was like, holy cow, I mean, he's not

716
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Speaker 2: many guys that have a lot of length can have

717
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: the quickness to be able to play Nickel to cover

718
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Speaker 2: a guy like a Christian Kurt and Antonio Johnson. I'm tony, folks,

719
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Speaker 2: this guy is a really, really good acquisition and he's

720
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Speaker 2: got a very bright future. Jaguars defense this week against

721
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 2: this Ravens offense, Lamar Jackson is the leading rusher by yardage.

722
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: Edwards punches it in for a touchdown. He got a

723
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Speaker 2: long stretch of like nine of his ten touchdowns were

724
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Speaker 2: in a five game stretch. Recently he had he's been

725
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Speaker 2: in the end zone.

726
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: The rookiees the rookie is a flowers. Flowers. They got

727
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Speaker 3: a few different but they're missing their best weapon in

728
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: the passing game, and that's Mark Andrews. He's if you

729
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: look it back over the last several years, it dropped tackle.

730
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Speaker 3: He is the He's this, He's the the comfort like

731
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Speaker 3: the little baby blanket, the binkie.

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Speaker 2: For security blanket, security blank that's what what? What was

733
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 2: just as blanky blanket?

734
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Speaker 3: Right? Well, like I had, like like my kids, like

735
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Speaker 3: your booby or your bubby or whatever you call it.

736
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, excuse me, Bobby. The world is going on,

737
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

738
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Speaker 2: And I think you actually referred to a part of

739
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: the female anatomy. There's something wrong with you, kay on

740
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 2: this show. I mean I'm not usually here on Mondays?

741
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 2: Is that what you guys do? Some different show on Monday, Jeff,

742
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: men have.

743
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 3: That body part as well, So like, don't be weird.

744
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: My point is Mark Andrews is the guy that when

745
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: it breaks down or they needed big plays or a

746
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: big first down, he was the guy that Lamar went to.

747
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: So they're not as good as they were early in

748
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: the season offensively in my opinion, without Mark Andrews. But

749
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: they still have a bunch of weapons, and they've changed

750
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: their offense. This is not the old veer offense that

751
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: Lamar ran for the first what five or six seven

752
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: years of his career. I mean they is, they drop

753
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: they drop back, they throw it around, and he still

754
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 3: has the ability obviously to get out of the pocket

755
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 3: and kill you with his legs. It's a good it's

756
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: a good group.

757
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 2: And and the biggest change for the big leap in

758
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 2: offense and Lamar Jackson's performance is their new offensive coordinator,

759
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Speaker 2: Todd Monkinah who is doing a tremendous job.

760
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Speaker 3: And of course, look, Lamar Jackson just got a new.

761
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Speaker 2: Contract, played well too, and and he he's really taken

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Speaker 2: ownership with the offense. And Monkin has really made him

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Speaker 2: take owners I don't say made him, but help get

764
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Speaker 2: him to take ownership of the offense. And I mean

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Speaker 2: when you listen to Lamar Jackson now talk at the

766
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: podium and I watched a couple of his interviews earlier today.

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Speaker 2: It's impressive. I mean, he's very aware, much more than

768
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Speaker 2: he was in the past. And you can tell, I

769
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: mean it's he's instead of talking like you know, he's

770
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 2: in undergraduate school. You can tell that he's up his

771
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Speaker 2: language and quarterback to graduate school or you know, working

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Speaker 2: on his doctorate or whatever.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: I mean, he's definitely taking a big step.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was the big question, you know, in Greg

776
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: Roman's old offense. The reason you heard a lot of

777
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: people say they were in this offense because Lamar can't

778
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: be a traditional drop that guy. He can't operate that way.

779
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: And Todd Munkins come in and said, well, you're wrong,

780
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: and Lamar is saying you're wrong. I can run a

781
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 3: offense more traditional. I can be a pocket passer when

782
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: need be. And they're point, they're dangerous and they can

783
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: run the ball. They can throw it now, you know.

784
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Speaker 3: But that doesn't worry me. Their offense isn't my big

785
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 3: worry JP Okay, are their defense because you have a

786
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: front seven that flat gets after you.

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Speaker 2: We'll dig into that in the second hour. Coming up

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Speaker 7: Av You're a little disconnected, you know. Trevor and the

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Speaker 7: receivers were a little off.

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Speaker 4: You know, we had opportunities to.

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Speaker 7: Make plays in the first half, didn't Obviously the turnovers,

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00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 7: you know, are are big and you can't you can't

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Speaker 7: do that. You know, we had a little success early

804
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 7: run in the football, you know, were some of the

805
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 7: things he did to keep them off balanced, but just overall,

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00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 7: just not not enough plays made, you know, too many,

807
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 7: too many self inflicted wounds. You know that they kept

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Speaker 7: us from sustaining drives or you know, staying on the field.

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Speaker 2: Sed goes Doug Peterson after the game yesterday and welcome back.

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Speaker 2: We're at mister Chubby's Wings at Panavietra Beach until six

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Speaker 2: o'clock is Shaguars Happy Hour. JP Shatterick, Tony Boselli, Jeff

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Speaker 2: log him and Pete Prisco coming up in our number two.

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Speaker 3: He's got plenty to say.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we're on tentionon XLAM Jaguars dot Com Jaguars

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Speaker 2: YouTube that was immediately.

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Speaker 3: After the game yesterday. Tony yeah, and Doug says something

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Speaker 3: that I agree with, but I want to clarify from

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Speaker 3: my perspective ways. He says, we did some good things

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Speaker 3: early in the run game, and you say, well, then

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Speaker 3: how do you only have seventeen rushers to your running

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00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: backs and under three yards of carry? And they did

822
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Speaker 3: have some success on two pin and polls and one

823
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Speaker 3: and one wham play. The problem with those plays. Those

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Speaker 3: are plays where you because of the formation or you

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Speaker 3: catch someone by surprise or the angles that you catch

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Speaker 3: them in the right look that just by getting in

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Speaker 3: people's way and you know you can it's more position

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Speaker 3: and pull type of things you can have success. I

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Speaker 3: don't believe those things are repeatable over the length of

830
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Speaker 3: a sixty minute game, and we saw them try like

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Speaker 3: pretty If you look at the first play of the

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Speaker 3: second half that Jeff was talking about. They're trying to

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Speaker 3: pull and get outside and do stuff like that. But

834
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Speaker 3: because your center is five yards in the backfield, was

835
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: that everyone gets muddled up. You know, they ran a

836
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Speaker 3: very nice wham play, which is you know, the uh

837
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: the wing back traps to tackle or the defensive tackle

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Speaker 3: you work up linebackers. They did a nice job and

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Speaker 3: they got like seven or eight. They tried to run

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Speaker 3: it again, they got zero because like you start recognizing seamless,

841
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 3: the defense is recognizing yet we're good run teams. What

842
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: they do is they line up and they say, we're

843
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: gonna run inside zone. We don't think you can stop it.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, we'll do it out of different formations and

845
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: different looks to keep you honest and keep you off.

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Speaker 3: But we're just gonna line up, put our hand in

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Speaker 3: the dirt. We're gonna double you up to the next linebacker.

848
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 3: Our back's gonna take one cut and we're gonna get

849
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Speaker 3: four yards. We're gonna get three yards, and then by

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter those are five to six twenty yards.

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Speaker 2: And the a couple of the players that they had

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Speaker 2: that were successful, they were quick snaps and so they

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Speaker 2: caught Cleveland a little bit.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of the trick. You had to trick them, right,

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00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: you got a trick. We got to fool them.

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Speaker 2: And uh, you know, the one thing that's very difficult

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00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: against the Cleveland Browns is that, you know, when you

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Speaker 2: combo block to try to get up to the next level,

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00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: those line back as flow so fast that if you

860
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: really can't combo block up to that next level. But

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Speaker 2: the reality is is that you know, watching that game

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Speaker 2: and watching the film.

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Speaker 3: You actually can combo block at the next level. Ye

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Speaker 3: can take the right if you're really good.

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Speaker 2: But watching the Cleveland Browns and watching their two guards,

866
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 2: Wyatt Teller and Joel Botonio, those two guys are really good,

867
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 2: and I'm talking really good Pro Bowl really like seven

868
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: Pro Bowls between them, and they lost their center, Ethan Posic,

869
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: and then their backup center, Nick Harris, was the guy

870
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: that actually in short yardage and stuff, he plays full

871
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: back for them, so he was lined up and at

872
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: the beginning of the game when Aaron shortyards that touchdown

873
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: to Najoku, he was the full back lined up in

874
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: the backfield. That's not something that's uncommon. He is the

875
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: full back on their depth chart, which is odd your

876
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: backup centers, you're starting fullback.

877
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: The more you can do, I guess.

878
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: But I mean that's that's a football team that is

879
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 2: committed to running the ball, and they do a good

880
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: job and option they had to be committed to running

881
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: the ball over the course of the last number of

882
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: weeks because of all the change at quarterback that they've had.

883
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 2: And the other thing about that game, watching it, Miles

884
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: Garrett was literally every moment that you watch him, you

885
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: just go you wonder when he's just gonna turn it on,

886
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: because when he turns it on, you can't.

887
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: Stop the guy. But I'll say this, Jeff, if you

888
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: look at the entirety of that game, he did not

889
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 3: mess up the game. No, he didn't wreck it. He

890
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 3: did not wreck the game. Now, the Jacks did a

891
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: pretty good job. They did a good plan. I mean

892
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 3: even the contained them. Even the sack he had in

893
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 3: the two minute, I mean in the two point play.

894
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: It was after Trevor had to whole it a Yeah,

895
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: it wasn't. It wasn't just now Trevor did a good

896
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: job getting rid of it a couple of times because

897
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: he won. Right, why did we go for two? We

898
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 3: can talk with another whole hour to go. By the way,

899
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 3: wait to hold that question until Pete gets on, because

900
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: people will have a field day. I'm just I'd like

901
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 3: to know.

902
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,479
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to understand that the mentality there.

903
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: I got some theories. I'm not saying they're right, but

904
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 3: I got some theories. We'll save it for Pete. Yeah,

905
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: save for Pete.

906
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: That's a good Probably a question on why they went

907
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 2: for it and left it in field goal range too.

908
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 3: But well, so I got there. There's a couple of

909
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 3: game situations we'll talk about in the second hour. Yeah,

910
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 3: the two are there's three. We went for it twice.

911
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 3: One I know for sure the analytics say to go

912
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 3: for it down you're talking about two points. Well, I

913
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: to talk about both those situations. And then late in

914
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 3: the game basically had three forty eight and three timeouts

915
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 3: you're going for in fourth and six or seven that's

916
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 3: where they used the time out. They use the timeout,

917
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 3: but they but is it the right decision to go

918
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: for it there? Or it's punning it away and playing

919
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: defense getting the ball back with the chance to tie it, Well,

920
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: we didn't get it.

921
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: And taking a delay again there and punded it and

922
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: they hit a fifty five yard field goal to take

923
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: a ten point lead. We'll get to that. We got

924
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: a whole hour ahead. We're out to Pete Prisco. We

925
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: are live at mister Chubby's Wings and Pana Vitra Beach.

926
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 3: Come out and.

927
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: Join us until six o'clock. Our one of the books

928
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: Hour to next is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars

929
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 2: Digital Network.

930
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 4: It was not one of our cleaner games.

931
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 6: Too many mistakes, you know, penalties, missed opportunities and miss throws, drops.

932
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 4: You know, just not playing sound football.

933
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 5: You know.

934
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 4: I think we were just so inconsistent.

935
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 6: It was hard to get in a rhythm. It feels

936
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 6: like all the close plays like we didn't make that

937
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 6: you need to get some momentum back in games, and

938
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 6: it seemed like all those we just weren't able to

939
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 6: make today.

940
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 4: So, you know, we gotta watch this tape and.

941
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 6: Really learn from it, because there's a lot on there

942
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 6: that we got to clean up and get better from.

943
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 4: Who was just walking off to the I just feel

944
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 4: like we've missed so.

945
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 6: Many opportunities and left a lot out there and really

946
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 6: just shut ourselves in the foot over and over.

947
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 2: There's the quarterback Trevor Lawrence after the game in Cleveland

948
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 2: yesterday and welcome back. It's the second hour of Jaguars

949
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 2: Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings. We are on

950
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: location at Mister Chubby's in Pana Vidra Beach until six

951
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: o'clock tonight. After a Jaguars lost to the Browns, Jake

952
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: p Shadrick, Tony Boselli, Jeff Vlogoman, the Jags rop another,

953
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 2: this time thirty one twenty seven the final. Trevor Lawrence

954
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: played through the ankle in three, but he also threw

955
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: three interceptions in the game. Calvin Ridley and Say Jones,

956
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: the receivers combined for twenty seven targets and only nine

957
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: catches in the game. The Jags defense had issues as well.

958
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: They gave up nearly four hundred yards Joe Flacco over

959
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: three hundred yards passing, but the Jaguars did not lose

960
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: ground in.

961
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,959
Speaker 3: The AFC South Race.

962
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: A game up in the Colts and Texans four to

963
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 2: go Sunday Night football this week for the Jaguars for

964
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: the first time since two thousand and eight. The Ravens

965
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: come to town with the number two defense in the

966
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: NFL great against the past, Number one in secks. They

967
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 2: run the daylights out of it, Lamar Jackson and all

968
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: the rest. Pete Prisco joining us now CBS Sports Senior

969
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 2: Rider for the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. Good afternoon, Pete.

970
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: How are you there's pet We can't hear you here, Pete. Sorry, Pete,

971
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: you can't you're Is that a good thing?

972
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 3: Yeah? It can be a good thing when you can't

973
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 3: hear Pete. I sometimes like putting him on you. So

974
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: we'll have to work on some technical difficulties here. But

975
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear what Pete has to see.

976
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 3: He looked good. I was gonna give him the floor

977
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 3: and almost give him the whole segment. Just say, Pete,

978
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 3: unload on us.

979
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: All right, hey, real quick, I want to go ahead

980
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: and say this Peak. We haven't we haven't said anything

981
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 2: about this. I give Trevor a lot of credit. You

982
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 2: talking about a quarterback coming back playing from a high

983
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: ankle spring.

984
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: I mean, how do you do that?

985
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 2: I mean, folks, high ankle sprayings are typically anywhere between

986
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 2: three to six weeks of inactivity of being inactive, and

987
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: he was able to come back and play in.

988
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 3: Six days, six days.

989
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: I mean that that's insane and and just and to

990
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: be mobile in six days, how do you do that?

991
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 3: He has special healing powers. Wow, and he's gumby. Yeah,

992
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 3: that's the thing.

993
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: I mean, he's He's done it multiple times Detroit. Last year,

994
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: you got twisted up and came back in the game.

995
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: Obviously we don't happened with the knee thing this year.

996
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: And coming back to play in a really short week

997
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 2: and now somehow gets out of this one Monday night.

998
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: You'd have thought he's done for you know, four or

999
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 2: five weeks at least, and then now he's jumping buildings

1000
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: with a single bounce.

1001
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 3: And let me, speaking from an offensive line men's perspective,

1002
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 3: I can't even describe how far that goes when your

1003
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 3: quarterback has that mentality and that toughness and guts it

1004
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 3: out and is out there like as an offensive line

1005
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 3: you're like, that's the dude I want to bat for,

1006
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 3: That's the dude I want to go to war with.

1007
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: Because this isn't some prima donna or different. You know,

1008
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 3: he's a tough dude who wants he wants to play ball,

1009
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: he wants to win.

1010
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: And what you'd like to have is for those And

1011
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: we had mentioned this in our broadcast at the beginning,

1012
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: that you want those around him to elevate their level

1013
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: of play to make it easier to help him, and

1014
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 2: I don't think that happened. Well, now let's talk about

1015
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 2: some guys who I thought they'd played pretty well, having

1016
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: Ingram great day.

1017
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: Sude it. He's having really good days back to back.

1018
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: Twelve targets, eleven catches, ninety five two touchdowns for Ingram.

1019
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna give two guys that wasn't always pretty

1020
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 3: but not easy duty. Before Ezra got hurt, agave him

1021
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: hadn't played one snap and foot in the NFL at

1022
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 3: left tackles going out there and blocking Miles Garrett. Now

1023
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: did they help him yeat, But he was also out

1024
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: there a couple times one on one before he got hurt.

1025
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 3: In fact, the first touchdown he is one on one

1026
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: when he twists his knee, but he's one on one

1027
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 3: with Miles Garrett. Miles puts a great move on it,

1028
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 3: and he sits it down and protects Trevor's backside and

1029
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: allows to touch and it happen. And then you have

1030
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 3: a guy in Blake hands who's sitting on the sideline

1031
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 3: and I'm sure SA getting hurt.

1032
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: Are He's like, are you kidding me? And he went

1033
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: out there and he was it pretty all the time. No,

1034
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 2: but did he go fight his tail off?

1035
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 3: Fought? He fought, And you know what, Miles, Garrett did

1036
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: not mess up the game. Miles.

1037
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: We didn't lose because we couldn't block those guys up front.

1038
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: We didn't lose because Trevor was getting harassed the entire game.

1039
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: We didn't win because we didn't run the balls as

1040
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: a lineman, Tony, the worst block you can have is

1041
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: what we call the lookout oh my goodness, which you

1042
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 2: just you get beat right away and you're beat clean

1043
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: and your quarterback doesn't have a chance. You want to

1044
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 2: at least slow a guy. And I thought that look

1045
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: Blake is in a tough matchup. But he never had

1046
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: a lookout block. No, there wasn't like we call him

1047
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: lookout block because the offensive lineman gets beat and he turns.

1048
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 3: You know what, that's bad when you have a franchise,

1049
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 3: not with anybody franchise.

1050
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 2: Quarter Yes, so I mean give him credit, and but Trevor,

1051
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 2: I mean the toughness that he's displayed in his career

1052
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 2: now forty seven consecutive games played. Uh, just impressive. And

1053
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: I thought he played well enough to win. And I

1054
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: think that this team has got up. They got to

1055
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 2: be better around him and better on the other side

1056
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 2: of the ball to get a win like that, because look,

1057
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: when you're on run and I can tell you this too,

1058
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: that's a hostile environment, trust me. Okay, oh yeah, he

1059
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: got to experience it first hand.

1060
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: So for those who did not listen to the broadcast yesterday,

1061
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 3: shame on you for not listening. By the way, what

1062
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 3: are you doing.

1063
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: Second of all, you missed out on Jeff Flagaman nearly

1064
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: jumping out of the booth apparently to go maybe chase

1065
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: down a Browns fan.

1066
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 3: What take us through what happened. I'll give you the

1067
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 3: kind of the scene and all that Jeff get into.

1068
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 3: Jeff was much more vocal with the fans. He was

1069
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 3: vocal on the air bat in the break, it was

1070
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 3: even more BASI were sitting and we had great it's

1071
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: a great booth, by the way, great vantage point. We're

1072
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 3: at the forty yard line and some of these newer

1073
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 3: stadiums you're kind of in the corner at times. It

1074
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 3: was great. But the fans are literally right there, like

1075
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,959
Speaker 3: the booth is here, and Jeff and I could touch

1076
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 3: the fans. They touch top of their heads really. In fact,

1077
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 3: at one point some of the cool Brown fans asked

1078
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 3: Jeff to take a picture of them, and Jeff took

1079
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 3: a picture of them from the booth. It was an

1080
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 3: Olive brand. It was this was after well, there was

1081
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 3: one guy. They were the ones that weren't as drunk

1082
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 3: as the other. There was a couple of people together,

1083
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 3: maybe they were brothers. And like the nickname would be

1084
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 3: Summer Teeth because somewhere over there, somewhere over here, Summer

1085
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 3: Teeth and uh. And he hadn't seen it, Dennis for

1086
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: a while, and he was very vocal, very hammer and

1087
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 3: hammer and very vocal, very hammer. We're sitting there and

1088
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 3: Jeff and I are having fun back and forth. Well,

1089
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 3: all of a sudden we're on the air and not

1090
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 3: even paying attention.

1091
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: And a beer when the Browns scored touchdown, here comes

1092
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: a beer can.

1093
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 3: A beer can't comes flying into the booths at a

1094
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,479
Speaker 3: high rate of speech, almost hits Frank in the head

1095
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 3: and it and it was it was Summer Teeth and

1096
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 3: his buddy Mullet. Yes, and I thought Jeff was gonna

1097
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 3: When we found out Jeff was. We had to hold

1098
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 3: them out back from jumping down out of the booth.

1099
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 3: And uh, now I'll say this, the press box attend

1100
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 3: press box attendant was outstanding. And then she came in.

1101
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 3: She heard about it. We didn't say. Someone must have

1102
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 3: told them and she came in. Oh, Dave told them

1103
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 3: David Cannas our producer runs the show in the every game. Uh.

1104
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: And they came and took pictures, and about ten minutes

1105
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: later that summer Teeth and his buddy were no longer

1106
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 3: sitting in the Summer and Mullet were gone. They were gone.

1107
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 2: Wow, they were removed from the stadium. But here and

1108
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 2: then here Jeff was great. There he Jeff got extra

1109
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: gear just he was ready to go.

1110
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 3: I was ready.

1111
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: And then and then the problem was is that once

1112
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 2: that uh summer, Teeth and Mullet left. Okay, Now his

1113
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: buddies are all made okay because they got tossed. But

1114
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 2: they didn't realize what they had done about throwing the

1115
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 2: beer can okay at a high raised speedy They just

1116
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: soft tossed it up to that a difference I was

1117
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: inviting them to come on in and to join us

1118
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: in the booth. We had plenty of room, okay, because

1119
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 2: it would have been a much better situation for me

1120
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: having the higher round.

1121
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say that was one of the

1122
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 3: reasons why.

1123
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 4: Sure.

1124
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 3: It was interesting though, But back to Jeff's wayne very hostile.

1125
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 2: And here's here's the worst part. Okay, I got you know,

1126
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 2: there's a there's a glass wall to my right. Okay,

1127
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: I'm the I'm in the far right side of the boots. Okay,

1128
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: Frank's on the far left side, but Selli's in between

1129
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: us and Frank's got a closed wall by him because

1130
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: the Browns coaches are in the next boot, okay, and

1131
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: the booth to the our right, which has this glass wall.

1132
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: It's a fandom, okay. So you've got sweets that have

1133
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: open seating outside. There's this ten year old kid mocking

1134
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: Jeff that's sitting.

1135
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 3: There giving me the loser side.

1136
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: It was a glass the whole game, and he's pounding.

1137
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 3: On the glass. He's a hockey game.

1138
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: And I'm going and I look at his dad and

1139
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: I was like, allowing you ten year old kid to

1140
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: show a total lack of respect and JP.

1141
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 3: I I almost did it, but I didn't.

1142
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: I wanted to reach because you can our our booth

1143
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: is open and he was open.

1144
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 3: I was going to reach around the post and just grab.

1145
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 2: Him, just you know, just just to shock them a

1146
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 2: little bit.

1147
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 3: Uh huh.

1148
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: I was like, nah, better it would have been. It

1149
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: would have been a two man booth from after that

1150
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 2: for a while.

1151
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it might have been.

1152
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: But uh, the kid was great, and you know, the

1153
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: banner back and forth with him was fine. But the

1154
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: summer teeth and and mullet, yeah, it was. It was

1155
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 2: nice knowing them and it was it was nice talking

1156
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: to the rest of the guys after they got tossed,

1157
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: because it was a very pleasant conversation. This is Jaguars Happy,

1158
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: We are alive at mister Chubby's Wings and Panavitra attention

1159
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 2: x l A M Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. Pete Prisco,

1160
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: CBS Sports Senior writer. Let's give it a try again, Pete?

1161
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 2: Are you with us now?

1162
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 5: Can you hear me? Yes?

1163
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 3: We have yeah? Long last, how are you good?

1164
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 8: By the way, what is doing in my in my

1165
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 8: in that seat? He's not part of this show. This

1166
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 8: is an efficient show. I don't have to hear him

1167
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 8: talking about going to his property and stuff.

1168
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 5: I don't need that.

1169
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see.

1170
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: Pete's a big fan of the show. He listened to

1171
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: the Outdoor Show every.

1172
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 3: I do too sometime, Pete, because you were not available

1173
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 3: the first hour, and we figured we bring in, Uh,

1174
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 3: we're in Panavid, You're at mister Chubby's. I live right

1175
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 3: down the street. Jeff lives right down the street. So

1176
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 3: Jeff's like, hey, it's a home game. I'll come join

1177
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 3: you and Pete.

1178
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 5: I mean, look, look, talk about that misery free.

1179
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 3: Wings to Pete. Why not? They are good, very good.

1180
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: Every Monday they bring it to our production crew at

1181
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: the Miller Electric Center, and now we came to them

1182
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: here at Mister.

1183
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 3: John They also provide food at halftime. So all right,

1184
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 3: let's let we're avoiding the situation. Pete.

1185
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: We want to open the floor for a few minutes

1186
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 2: for you here. What the hell happened yesterday?

1187
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 5: Well, let's be real.

1188
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 8: You got to give the quarterback credit for playing, but

1189
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 8: he was not very good at moments. But I think

1190
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 8: there were other issues at play, including you know, wide

1191
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 8: receiver running the wrong route, which Calvin Ridley clearly did.

1192
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 5: It was miscommunication there.

1193
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 8: I think that you know, defensively, they can't get to

1194
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 8: the quarterback. I mean, if Josh Allen doesn't get there,

1195
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 8: nobody's getting there.

1196
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 5: That's two weeks in a row.

1197
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 8: You made Jake Browning and Joe Flacco two backups, one

1198
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 8: almost years old, shred you throwing the football. There were

1199
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 8: way too many busts and I tried to go through

1200
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 8: and you guys might be able to watch the tape

1201
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 8: on the way home today from Kansas City. The busts

1202
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 8: in the secondary, I attribute number one to Rayshawn Jenkins,

1203
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 8: number two to a Luacan, and number three I was

1204
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 8: trying to get an idea.

1205
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 5: Who that was.

1206
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 8: It was either Darius Williams or Rayshon Jenkins. I couldn't

1207
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 8: quite figure that one out. But my gosh, you talk

1208
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 8: about guys running wide open that can't happen.

1209
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 5: And so you combine it all together.

1210
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 8: It was not a very good day for the Jacksonville

1211
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 8: Jaguars in Cleveland.

1212
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 3: In Cleveland, So I'll let Jeff Pete because we talked

1213
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 3: about those busts on defense, and I agree with you.

1214
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 3: The worst part of that game for me is really

1215
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 3: you beat yourself at the end of the day. Now,

1216
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 3: there's certain things that give Cleveland credit. They are more

1217
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 3: physicle at the line of scrimson we were they did,

1218
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 3: you know, some good things, but you take away three

1219
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 3: bus on defense, that's a completely different game. And I'll

1220
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 3: let Jeff because we talked about who's who we think,

1221
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 3: I mean, we're making some assumptions based on what we

1222
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 3: know about the defense and how they play. So I'll

1223
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 3: let Jeff kind of go through each of those and

1224
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 3: kind of what he saw on tape.

1225
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 2: All right, So the first one Pete, which was a

1226
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: third and one, and essentially the Browns are in a

1227
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 2: goal line personnel grouping. The Jaguars match with a goal

1228
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: line defensive grouping, and they're bringing pressure off the outside edges.

1229
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: And when you do that, a lot of times you

1230
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: ask a defensive end or a linebacker to play man

1231
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 2: on a tight end. And it looked like from watching

1232
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 2: it that Trayvon was in man coverage on Najoku and

1233
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 2: in order to do that. A lot of people say, well,

1234
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 2: how can you ask a guy like Trayvon to do that? Well,

1235
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 2: you beat him up at the line of scrimmage to

1236
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 2: where he can't release, and you expect him to be

1237
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 2: able to run with no Joku, because No Dajoku is

1238
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 2: not a guy that has blazing speed. I think it

1239
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: was on Trayvon with that one. The second one to Najoku,

1240
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: I think it was Foyer got too aggressive on a

1241
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: run read and then got caught and then he couldn't

1242
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 2: end up backing out and covering ground, and Devin Lloyd

1243
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: never even moved, He didn't buy the run fake. He

1244
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 2: was pointing in the direction of where the tight end

1245
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: was going, and Foyer was just so fast going downhill.

1246
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 2: And now the last one, which was the completion to

1247
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 2: the belt guy be be okay when when they started

1248
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 2: out the wide receiver, one of the wide receivers was

1249
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 2: out wide, and you're you're in man coverage and when

1250
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 2: the motion comes in, you're essentially playing an in and out,

1251
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: so you're playing man, but you're saying, okay, if one

1252
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 2: guy goes in, I got him, another guy stays at

1253
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 2: the outside, I got him. A little confusion there between

1254
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 2: Darius and ray Seawan because they both went to cover

1255
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 2: the same guy and then when Darius realized that they

1256
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: both were going to the same guy and that he

1257
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: in my opinion, he was supposed to be on the

1258
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 2: outside guy, and he realized that he plants his foot, slips,

1259
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 2: goes down to the ground, and by then it's too.

1260
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 3: Late, so that one is just miss miscommunication. Yeah, but

1261
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 3: the bottom.

1262
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 5: Line it ways, right, Jack, you could play that two

1263
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 5: different ways.

1264
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 8: You either go in and out or you just play

1265
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 8: it straight and and let the in guy go to

1266
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 8: Jenkins and and he stays with the outside guy.

1267
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 5: I mean that you could do that too, But.

1268
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah you can and say okay, we're staying. Yeah, it's

1269
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: it's you know, you can play cat coverage. I say,

1270
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 2: I got that cat. It doesn't matter what they do, right, Okay,

1271
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: But then you can also play okay, I got the

1272
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 2: guy that goes in, you got the guy that goes.

1273
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 8: Out Banjo, Right, Yeah.

1274
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 3: But Pete to your point though, I mean, you look

1275
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 3: at this game, and I've said I said it since

1276
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 3: the game yesterday. The Jaguars beat themselves with missed assignments,

1277
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 3: blown coverages, which is miss assignments, turnovers and stupid penalties.

1278
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 3: It wasn't like they were you know, the big fear

1279
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 3: going the game is is Miles Garrett in the you know,

1280
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 3: just gonna take over the game. Can they block them,

1281
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 3: it's gonna be just a complete mess because of the

1282
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 3: injuries offensive line, well, for the most part it was

1283
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 3: not and they Trevor had time to operate. Now, they

1284
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 3: still can't run the ball, and we talked about that already.

1285
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like they can't run between the tackles.

1286
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 3: They physically can't do it. But as far as overall,

1287
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: if you don't have the missed assignments, and you know,

1288
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 3: including blown coverages, a lot of those miss assignments led

1289
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 3: to turnovers or touchdowns, that's a completely different game.

1290
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 5: But you can't you say that every week, Tony. I

1291
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 5: mean you really can.

1292
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 8: If you if you play your signmon football, you're gonna

1293
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 8: you're gonna not gonna make those mistakes.

1294
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Speaker 5: And I think they do. I mean they've been doing.

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Speaker 8: And you know what else is getting worship by the way,

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Speaker 8: the tackling and the secondaries get the wars.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean you've got too bad.

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Speaker 5: Turn last a couple of weeks in a row. There's

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Speaker 5: been a lot of more tackling back there.

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Speaker 8: You know, I want to say a couple of things

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Speaker 8: real quick. I thought Antonio Johnson added some speed to

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Speaker 8: that defense. They might need to get him on the

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Speaker 8: field more, don't you think I mean he made a

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Speaker 8: couple of plays about the tape a little bit. I

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01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 8: think he's a guy that you need to get on

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Speaker 8: the field.

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Speaker 3: And then just a big fan of Antonio Johnson too.

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Speaker 3: What do you hey, let's hold that thought.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back and keep it real with your thoughts

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01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: come of the decisions.

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Speaker 3: At the end, Pete, we want to talk about that

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01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 3: gone for two and would you have hunted or gone

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01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 3: for it? And fourth and seven with three forty eight.

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Speaker 2: Left, Hold that thought of Jaguars Happy Hour on tention

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Speaker 3: Beach and Pete Prisco with us.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep it real when we come back on Jaguars

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Speaker 2: Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings.

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Speaker 4: I think it was four and ten.

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Speaker 7: Yes, the fort and tree is a better chance which

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01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 7: just pick up the first down for another one that

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Speaker 7: he decided to go.

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Speaker 4: A fuck out it.

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Speaker 2: Head coach Doug Peterson after the game yesterday, welcome back

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Speaker 2: as Jaguars Happy Hour. We are alive at mister Chubby's

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01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 2: wings and Panavietre Beach on A one A hope you'll

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01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 2: join us here until six o'clock. J. P. Shadwick, Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer, Tony Bisseli, Jeff Blogoman here and Pete Prisco

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01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 2: with us on the line as always. And it's time

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01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 2: now for keeping it Real, presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi.

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01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: Open up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award winning line

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01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 2: by Robert Mandavi. And we have questions about some of

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01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,439
Speaker 2: the decisions toward the end of the game. And let's

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Speaker 2: start with the Jaguars. With just about four minutes to go,

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Speaker 2: three thirty four to play, Jaguars are facing fourth and

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01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 2: three from their own thirty eight yard line. They had

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01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: to burn a time out before the fourth down play,

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01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 2: they decided to go for it. Lawrence throws incomplete short

1340
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 2: ripe to say Jones, they turn it over on downs.

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01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 2: The Browns get one yard on the ensuing drive three

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01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 2: plays and kick a fifty five yard field goal to

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Speaker 2: go up ten piece.

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Speaker 3: So hold on before we go to peace. So it

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01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 3: was only fourth and three. I thought it was five

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01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 3: and six, Okay, I was wrong. It was fourth and three.

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Speaker 3: I don't change my opinion, but fourth and three, so Pete,

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01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 3: you go first, because all right, me, I think.

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01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 8: I mean you gotta punt them. You have to punt

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01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 8: the football because here's why. If you don't get it,

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01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 8: which they didn't, you're automatically giving him a field goal

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01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,479
Speaker 8: that puts you the game at essentially out of reach.

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01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 8: If you punt them in let's just say flip it forward,

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01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 8: you pun him back, and you do have the same

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01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 8: exact situation where you limit him to one yard, then

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01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 8: you're gonna get the football back and you're gonna have

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01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 8: a chance to go tie the game, or maybe Doug

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01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 8: Peterson would go for two and try and win the game.

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Speaker 8: So I think I didn't like the decision. I would

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01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 8: have punted the football right there. And I think you

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01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 8: guys probably agree with me.

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Speaker 2: Agree, And I think you're you're assuming Pete that you're

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01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 2: gonna get a stop and also assuming that you're gonna

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01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: get good field position after the stop. But that happened

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01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 2: earlier in the game, and the guy that punts for

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01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns kicked the seventy five yard punt and

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01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 2: you didn't get good field position.

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Speaker 3: So I'm I'm I'm.

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Speaker 2: Against you guys a little bit here on this, and

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Speaker 2: then I'm okay with it. Fourth and three with a

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Speaker 2: good quarterback and one of the best tight ends in football.

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Speaker 3: I just wish he had been the primary. Yeah, I

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01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 3: guess I understand why Doug went for it, but I

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01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 3: just I still disagree with it. And I let me

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01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 3: correct myself because I said earlier in the show it

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Speaker 3: was like fourth or six or fourth and six or seven.

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Speaker 3: I it doesn't change my perspective whether it's fourth six,

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01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 3: fourth and six and it's still seven or fourth and three.

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01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 3: I'm still punting it because if you don't get it

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01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 3: because of their kicker, you're basically the game's ending, because

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Speaker 3: especially because especially with the onside rules now, the chances

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01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 3: of getting an on side kick are so low. And

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01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 3: and you got I mean at some point, you keep

1384
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 3: your timeouts for a reason, and you like punting's part

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01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 3: of the game. Punt it deep, get a three and out,

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01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 3: even if he booms another one. Jeff, to your point,

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01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 3: you're gonna get the ball at you're twenty fifteen or

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01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 3: twenty with over two minutes left because you used all

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Speaker 3: three timeouts, and that's an eternity to.

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Speaker 5: Go four touchdowns and don't if you don't blow the timeout.

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Speaker 8: If you make the decision right away, you have three

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Speaker 8: timeouts into two minute warning.

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Speaker 3: No, I would never even Yeah, I would just take

1394
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 3: a delay of game.

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01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 5: Before the third down play.

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Speaker 8: You say, if we don't get it, we're gonna punt,

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01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 8: and then we're gonna go play there, so you don't

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01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 8: have to use the other time out.

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Speaker 5: And so, by the way, move over, BISSELLI.

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Speaker 8: There's a new company man in town on the set

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01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:14,759
Speaker 8: there since Jeff Logaman.

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01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 5: He just took over your place.

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01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 2: No, but but Pete, I mean, now, look, Pete, if

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01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 2: it had been fourth and six or seven or eight,

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01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 2: I would I would think completely differently about it. But

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01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 2: fourth and three, And here's the problem, Pete, because the

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01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: Jaguars defense this year has not done a great job

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01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,879
Speaker 2: when they needed to give the ball back to the offense.

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01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 3: This year, they haven't done the job in that category. Yeah,

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01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 3: I guess I just think.

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Speaker 2: The games over, because if you don't get it, the

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01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 2: games the game's over.

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01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 3: With three minutes left in the game, it's over. Now,

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01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 3: here's the other decision. Hold on, hold on before I

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01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 3: want to finish his real quick, because that's what this guy,

1416
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 3: their kicker had not missed over fifty all years, and

1417
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 3: so if you don't pick it up, you are ending

1418
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 3: the game. And I think you tried to extend the

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01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 3: game and give yourself as many chances as you possibly

1420
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 3: can and just be let's let's go back. Let's say

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01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 3: you get fourth and three.

1422
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 5: You still have sixty yards to go right right right,

1423
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 5: to do anything.

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01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 2: It's not like you're going for it at the fifty,

1425
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 2: at at the plus forty five, where if you don't

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01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 2: get it you can still get a three and out.

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01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 3: Like I would be all for that. My problem was

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01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 3: if you don't get it, you end the game.

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01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 2: If they make the field, you know who you're really

1430
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 2: missing that situation.

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01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 3: Christian kirk oh Gosha. Absolutely, yes, you could say that. Yeah, yeah,

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01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 3: for the next few I'm sure. Hey.

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01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 2: The other decision, the other decision that as we're keeping

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01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,959
Speaker 2: it real, presented by Woodbridge by Robert MUNDAVII. The Jaguars

1435
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 2: score a touchdown one thirty seven to go, Lawrence to

1436
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 2: Ingram a two yarder and so they're down four and

1437
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 2: decide to go for.

1438
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 3: Two and make it a two point game. Instead, they

1439
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 3: missed it.

1440
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 2: It was still a four point games, still needing the

1441
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 2: on side kick.

1442
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 3: Pete, what do you think that was?

1443
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 8: That makes no sense whatsoever in any way, shape or form.

1444
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 8: You cannot defend that. Doug Peterson cannot defend that. What's

1445
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 8: the point of it. Oh, we're gonna go win it.

1446
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 8: He's still gonna get the on side kick and go

1447
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 8: get the field goal. Anyways, if you will limit it

1448
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 8: by not getting that, you eliminated the chance to go

1449
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 8: get a field goal to send the game to overtime.

1450
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 5: It made no sense to me none.

1451
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 8: I will never And look, they can pull out their

1452
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 8: analytics book all they want.

1453
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 5: There's no defense of that at all.

1454
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 8: You definitely kick the extra point and then you hope

1455
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:37,839
Speaker 8: you get the on side kick and go to overtime.

1456
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 2: So hold on real quick, just so I can prove

1457
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 2: the Pete that I'm not a company man.

1458
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:43,879
Speaker 3: I agree with you, Pete.

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01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 5: There you go, Jeff, I like it.

1460
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 3: I like it. There you go, Pete, Pete, I I agree.

1461
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 3: I would not have gone for it. But it bothers

1462
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 3: me less than the one the not punning it on

1463
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 3: fourth and three with three timeouts, because the reality is, well,

1464
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 3: my point is I mean, because getting it on side

1465
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 3: is such low probability in today's NFL. But let's just

1466
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 3: say you get the on side. Whether you made that

1467
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 3: two point or conversion or not, you still had a

1468
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 3: minute forty four left. It wasn't like ten seconds left,

1469
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 3: and so you can still score touchdown and win it.

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01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 3: I did. I still I'm with you. I wouldn't have

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01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 3: done it, but it doesn't bother me as much because

1472
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:33,759
Speaker 3: the biggest risk is getting the on side and so okay,

1473
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 3: like that, Like that one inn't bother me. I did

1474
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 3: not like fourth and three three timeouts against let's call it.

1475
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 3: I mean, you talk about the defense not doing great

1476
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 3: in those situations. Take away those three explosives, which I

1477
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 3: always hate when defensive coordators do this. Except for these

1478
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 3: three plays, we were really good. But take away those

1479
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 3: three explosives. The Browns average under three under three yards

1480
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 3: of rush as well. It was two point nine and

1481
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 3: so it wasn't like they were gash you on the ground.

1482
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,719
Speaker 3: It was broken. It was bad coverage that would killed

1483
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 3: you that day. The other remember the other seven they

1484
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 3: got to get to twenty eight, was when Parker Washington

1485
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 3: fumbled on the twenty and they only have to go

1486
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 3: twenty yards, So it wasn't like this was a Cleveland

1487
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 3: team just marching up and down the field. It was

1488
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:23,759
Speaker 3: poor coverage, poor execution and turnovers that led to those points,

1489
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 3: which is another reason I would have kicked it deep

1490
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 3: and play defense. All right, you have it. That's keeping

1491
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 3: it by Yes, back to the Tony.

1492
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 5: You made a good point.

1493
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 9: Whether you got the two point player or not the

1494
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 9: once I kick was in play, you know, so what's

1495
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 9: the different Why not just why not keep your hopes

1496
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 9: up that maybe if you have a chance.

1497
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 5: I didn't get that at all. That one was.

1498
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 3: It didn't bother me as much. When I'm waiting to pete.

1499
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 3: I would have to just kicked the next point. That's

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01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 3: how we do.

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01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 2: Keeping it Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Open

1502
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: up a winner today, really INGREDI It's award winning line

1503
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 2: by Robert Mundavi.

1504
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 3: Or the rest of the way. We can take it now.

1505
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 3: The real part is on real.

1506
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 2: It's all fake from here, including fanatics fan questions. Those

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Speaker 2: are Texas Jaguars Happy Hour Live from Mister Chubby's Wings

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Speaker 2: at Panavitra Beach.

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Speaker 6: Felt pretty good all things considered, you know, so that

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Speaker 6: was a that was a positive out of today.

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Speaker 4: I guess that's about the only one.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, you know, I didn't didn't, you know, reinjer

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Speaker 6: my ankle and didn't tweak it or anything.

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Speaker 4: Felt pretty good. It held off. I was able to

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Speaker 4: move when needed. So yeah, it was this is good.

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Speaker 3: That's the quarterback, of course.

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence playing on a high ankle sprain yesterday in

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Speaker 2: Cleveland and welcome back in his Jaguars happy hour. JP Shadwick,

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Speaker 2: Tony Maselli, Jeff Logiman from Mister Chubby's Wings, and Panavietra Beach,

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Speaker 2: Pete Priscoe on the line with us after Jaguars loss

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Speaker 2: in Cleveland to the Browns thirty one twenty seven. We've

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Speaker 2: got chubby style wings here outstanding. Jason Dean has loaded tots.

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Speaker 3: It looks like just what you Jason, just what you need.

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Speaker 3: Dave didn't get anything. Oh he's okay, it's on the way,

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Speaker 3: it's en root okay.

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Speaker 2: And he ordered to Andres Oh wow, aggressive okay, saying

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Speaker 2: that's really good.

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Speaker 3: Aggressive wow too, I mean yeah, aggressive. I mean you

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Speaker 3: see him at halftime what he does with mister Chubby

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Speaker 3: speak of the.

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Speaker 2: Devil Here are the both on and here they are

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Speaker 2: the wings.

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Speaker 3: Two orders.

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Speaker 5: Dave.

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Speaker 3: Dave did not want one. He wanted to Can I.

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Speaker 2: Get that's still evidence evidence? Let me see real quick,

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Speaker 2: Come on, Dave, come on, we're proving this. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: Brent Reevers over here as well, he might take some

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Speaker 2: of them. See that, folks, there's another plate over there,

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Speaker 2: and Dave was trying to take both and now he's

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Speaker 2: trying to pass it off so it doesn't look like

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Speaker 2: that he's being, you know, a glutton with.

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Speaker 3: All but those two close to Baseilli he's like one

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Speaker 3: of those birds coming in, slipping in. I'm stealing those control.

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Speaker 3: It's hard with these words. They're really good. Whatever rub

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Speaker 3: they put on these things, it's secret chovy style.

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Speaker 5: And I like those.

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Speaker 3: They're good ones because they're not they're nice, crispy, they're like,

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Speaker 3: they're not greasy.

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Speaker 2: There's no grease to them. I don't think there's there.

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Speaker 2: And they're not fatty greasy. They're really good. We're big

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Speaker 2: wings outstanding. Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 3: Hey. Time now for the Fanatics fan questions.

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Speaker 2: Jags fans, you're up at fanatics dot com with all

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Speaker 2: latest DAG styles. Shop down and get today's special offer.

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Speaker 2: Fanatics dot Com officially license everything. We always put the

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Speaker 2: cat signal out on Twitter, and uh, we always kind

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Speaker 2: of pick the best ones of the day. And I

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Speaker 2: was called out before the show by a fan, yeah,

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Speaker 2: saying that I never pick his question.

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Speaker 3: Ever, Well, oh, I thought you did you see that?

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Speaker 3: What you were called out by ruining the last two

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Speaker 3: weeks because of the triple off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a different story altogether. However, at Segundo's dad

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Speaker 2: has the first question tonight and he's here tonight, So

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Speaker 2: thanks for coming up and calling us out.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate. It's a good question.

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Speaker 2: Individually, the offensive line is a collection of solid players. Collectively,

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Speaker 2: they aren't getting it done. Is there an explanation why

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Speaker 2: the Jags can't run between the tackles and keep a

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Speaker 2: clean pocket? Well, the don't point me, he started to

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Speaker 2: answer the question.

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Speaker 3: I was pinting you because we talked about it all

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Speaker 3: the time. We're on the same page. I disagree with

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Speaker 3: the clean pocket. Now they hit him twelve times, Yet

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Speaker 3: they did that's a good unit. But until yesterday it

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Speaker 3: was like the Bengals were all over him. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: like the Texans were all over them. It wasn't like

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Speaker 3: whoever we played before that. I mean, so, I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure it's fair to say the protection has been bad

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Speaker 3: for the last seven or eight games. The run game,

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Speaker 3: I agree with, that's a good unit, and like now,

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Speaker 3: he got hit too much, and there was a couple

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Speaker 3: of times just unnecessaryacked in my opinion, but.

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Speaker 2: In a couple of times because an offensive lineman just

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Speaker 2: didn't even finish.

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Speaker 3: Just finish the play, Just finish the block. You got

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Speaker 3: him finish.

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Speaker 2: I mean that that's not asking something that's superhuman. Finished

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Speaker 2: the block. Okay, the old saying, play to the whistle,

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Speaker 2: the echo, play to the whistle. I'm trying to do

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Speaker 2: my best. Yes, very well done, Edwards imitation Pete. What

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Speaker 2: do you think about all this?

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about the run game before we go to Pete. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you want to take the first shot. You want me

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Speaker 3: to you started off. They do not move people. They

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Speaker 3: are not a physical, downhill displace people type of offensive line.

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Speaker 3: They are out of a two point most of the time.

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Speaker 3: You have a center who is tall guy, but plays

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Speaker 3: with the high pad level and doesn't isn't physical, isn't

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Speaker 3: physical at the lion of scrimmage, isn't physical getting up

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Speaker 3: to the next level. I think that the I think

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Speaker 3: Brandon Sheriff is. You know, he's an older player, he's

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Speaker 3: had some lower body injuries. I don't think he has

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Speaker 3: the power right now to move he's he is he smart?

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Speaker 3: Is he in the right place? Absolutely? Is he a

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Speaker 3: good poller. But as far as just being physical and

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Speaker 3: move people, and so, you look, we have an offense

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Speaker 3: it's very horizontal, very position block, looking for an angle

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Speaker 3: and pull guys and try to get outside and try

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Speaker 3: to fabricate run lanes. It's not it's not a physical group.

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Speaker 3: And when you're not a physical group, as as this

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Speaker 3: season goes on, people start understanding what you're trying to

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Speaker 3: do and defend it. Play against a good unit like Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna shut it down. But the reality is it's

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Speaker 3: not just good units who shut us down. We've been

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Speaker 3: shut down the last seven weeks.

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Speaker 2: I'll be real brief and let let people talk here,

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Speaker 2: but just a quick comment. This is a pass first offense,

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Speaker 2: and when you're a pass first offense sometimes it's it's

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Speaker 2: hard to get that mind.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Now we need to be physical, okay, And so that

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Speaker 2: makes it difficult, but you still have to be able

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Speaker 2: to do that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but when we get the Eagles and the way

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Speaker 8: they play and they move their center and get them

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Speaker 8: on the move and everything else, they play physical.

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Speaker 5: They didn't last night, but they usually do.

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Speaker 8: I think part of the biggest part of the problem

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Speaker 8: with running the football is the center. He's not big.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he's not physical. You mentioned it. Tony plays

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Speaker 8: too high. He gets immediate immediately he's up and he's

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Speaker 8: getting pushed. And when you can't get any push, that's

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Speaker 8: a problem. Sheriff was terrible last week. He was He

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Speaker 8: was a little bit better this week. I thought, you know,

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Speaker 8: am I crazy to think that there's a possibility they

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Speaker 8: can make a change at center and put Shatley in

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Speaker 8: there if you want to really try and improve the

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Speaker 8: run game or something, because they're not running the ball

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Speaker 8: at all, and Tony's right, it's.

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Speaker 5: A it's a pull in pot. You know, they pin

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Speaker 5: and pull up.

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Speaker 8: You know, offense, there's angles and get to the second

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Speaker 8: level and they just don't do a good enough job

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Speaker 8: of it. I don't know what the answer is, but

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Speaker 8: they don't have enough bodies now to try and make

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Speaker 8: any decisions.

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Speaker 4: Do that.

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Speaker 8: I mean, think about it. Who's gonna start this week

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Speaker 8: at left tackle? Will Walker Littill be back?

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Speaker 3: There's question, he's question the possibility.

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Speaker 8: So if he's not, Blake can start right.

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Speaker 3: The possibilit Ezra's day to day two.

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Speaker 2: Let me chime in right here, because I'm a big believer,

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Speaker 2: and Tony You've heard me say this for many years.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of when you have an injury,

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Speaker 2: that you make two position changes because of one injury.

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Speaker 2: So I would have been a bigger fan of, Okay,

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Speaker 2: leave Ezra Cleveland at left guard and then put Blake

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Speaker 2: Canson in at left tackle, because it's a position that

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Speaker 2: you're already gonna help a ton with anyway, and because

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Speaker 2: I think that continuity is key there. Uh And because also,

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Speaker 2: and we haven't mentioned this yet. If you have let's

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Speaker 2: say Blake Canson left tackle, you help him with the

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Speaker 2: tight end, and then you got to get the running

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Speaker 2: backs to do a better job with the chips than

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Speaker 2: what they did in this past game.

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Speaker 3: It was not good name.

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Speaker 2: He was unread Pete, Pete, how many times do you remember?

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Speaker 2: And one of the best ever in the history of

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Speaker 2: the league.

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Speaker 3: Because I felt it was Eric.

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Speaker 2: B enemy Okay when he used to do a chip Okay,

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01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 2: I'm talking. He had a crosshair on ribs and he

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01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 2: was looking to break them. Fred Taylor was awesome at it.

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01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: Maurice was arguably the best in Jaguars history.

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Speaker 3: We remember Shawn Merriman. Yeah, he's still feeling that what

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Speaker 3: we saw yesterday was not good. Was the exact opposite

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Speaker 3: of what you just described. But going back to the

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Speaker 3: offense line in general is and Pete, you asked that

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Speaker 3: you put Shatley at center. I don't know what you do,

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01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 3: but there is it's I think it impacts other calling plays.

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Speaker 3: And I agree Jeff. There a pass first offense, no

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Speaker 3: doubt about that, but not to to the not to

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Speaker 3: the level of fifty seven call passes and seventeen called

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Speaker 3: runs in a game. But I don't think they have

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Speaker 3: any confidence to run through in between the tackles because

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Speaker 3: it's not just that we play very horizontal, very high.

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01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 3: We're not physical. We don't finish, we don't stay on blocks,

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Speaker 3: we don't even get to the next level and finish

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01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 3: blocks that allow that next level run to break. There's

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Speaker 3: a lot of watching going on. Yeah, all right, let's

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Speaker 3: move along to the next question.

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Speaker 2: It's get a couple more in here, guys at SSBAY

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01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 2: underscore Z. Why does it seem like when a team

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Speaker 2: uses motion or misdirection on offense, our defense looks so confused,

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01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 2: which leads to wide open receivers. Even the fourth and

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01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 2: three the Brown score to go up twenty eight to

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Speaker 2: fourteen was a blown coverage.

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Speaker 3: Jeff, you're the defensive expert. Well, I mean, here, here's

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Speaker 3: the thing.

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Speaker 2: The motion I think that he's referring to, which is

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Speaker 2: very observant, is the one that went to Bell a

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Speaker 2: wide receiver. And when you have motions, you can have

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01:24:58,360 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 2: the change a change of response.

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Speaker 3: It's ability. And with the.

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Speaker 2: Motions, there's got to be communications as soon.

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01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:05,919
Speaker 3: As that motion starts.

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01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 2: And in the case of the long touchdown the Bell,

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01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 2: there wasn't even so much as a glance with Darius

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01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 2: Williams and Rayshawn Jenkins at that time, nor before the play.

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01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 2: And you've got to be able to communicate so everybody's

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01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 2: on the same page, so you don't have any holes.

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01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 2: And so yeah, that's something that you don't want to see. Yes,

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01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,719
Speaker 2: it's been a problem before with this defense, and they've

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01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 2: got to get that corrected, and it's just a simple

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01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 2: matter of talking when the huddle breaks, when the formation

1719
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 2: is set, and then as quickly as you can when

1720
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 2: something changes with emotion. And clearly the Jaguars did not

1721
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,799
Speaker 2: do a good job with it, especially on that specific

1722
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 2: play on the touchdown the bill it's a lot pete.

1723
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, really football, if you take away to the three bus,

1724
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 8: they've probably played well on defense. But everybody can say that.

1725
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 8: In every game in this league nowadays, you always have

1726
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 8: going to couple of.

1727
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 5: Plays like that.

1728
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 8: My concern is, where the hell, other than Josh Allen,

1729
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 8: is the pass rush.

1730
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 5: Seriously, where is it? It's not existent, It's not there.

1731
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 5: It's and okay, a couple of those plays.

1732
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 8: You know, Flacco stood back there and I think he

1733
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 8: threw a rifle shot to the right sideline on one place,

1734
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 8: stood back there for twenty minutes. It seemed like the

1735
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,839
Speaker 8: pass rush is non existent. They and the whole Trayvon

1736
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 8: Walker again, we're going to pile on a little bit.

1737
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 8: He had one pressure where I think he came off

1738
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 8: the edge. He beat a guy.

1739
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:35,440
Speaker 5: Those are backup tackles they're working against. They're not starters.

1740
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna argue with that because

1741
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 2: in the last couple of weeks.

1742
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 3: So you go back to the.

1743
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 2: To the Texans game, and I didn't think Trayvon played

1744
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 2: very well the Bengals game. Came out very early in

1745
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 2: the ball game and the right tackle from Alabama JP

1746
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 2: give me a name I don't know, early in the

1747
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 2: thank you Pete, and he literally centers Joonah Williams and

1748
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: hits him and knocks him on his can like two

1749
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 2: yards back. And I'm like, all right, okay, establish him power. Now,

1750
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 2: after you establish power and you put the fear of

1751
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 2: God in the guy, now you.

1752
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 3: Counter off of that, you don't go back to power.

1753
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 3: And it didn't happen.

1754
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 8: Well, he goes to Jeff You're right, he goes to

1755
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 8: power early in the game, and then they.

1756
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 5: All figure it out.

1757
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 3: That's all.

1758
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 5: It's gonna be his power, Tony.

1759
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 8: If you knew you had a guy there was nothing

1760
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 8: but power, what do you do?

1761
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 5: What do you do?

1762
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 3: I mean he just first of all, I'd short set

1763
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 3: him every time, and that's what Cleveland did. And he

1764
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 3: was for the most part ineffective backup tackle. For the

1765
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 3: most part. Every time he shorts out of him. It

1766
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 3: was it was over sixty six.

1767
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 2: I can't remember ye his name because the rookie, Hudson,

1768
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 2: thank you, the rookie was out with a with a

1769
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 2: knee injury. The fourth round pick tackle out of Ohio State, who,

1770
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 2: by the way, is a good football player. He's having

1771
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 2: he's yeah, he's having surgery. He's done for the year.

1772
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 2: Though they had asked that to that what happened.

1773
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 5: And and that Hudson, by the way, moments during his

1774
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 5: time playing where he's looked awful. I just want to

1775
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 5: put that out there.

1776
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 8: And he and he held more than held his own

1777
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 8: against Trayvon Walker, and again it's not working. They can

1778
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 8: talk to their blue in the face. He's a good

1779
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 8: football player, is a tough kid. He plays a run well.

1780
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 8: He's a physical guy. He does he does all that.

1781
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 8: He's not a pass rusher, and you drafted him to

1782
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:32,799
Speaker 8: be a pass rusher.

1783
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 2: One more question on fanatics fan questions at jbs Nsley

1784
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,719
Speaker 2: thoughts on the offensive a side call on the Bills

1785
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 2: Chiefs game. I thought the Chiefs showed lack of responsibility

1786
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 2: and forced sportsmanship.

1787
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 3: After the game. If he don't let you go first,

1788
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 3: you're the national guy. I got my opinions on it.

1789
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 5: Were I was.

1790
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 8: I was at that game Sunday, and uh, look, we

1791
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 8: saw it right away. He was lined up all sides.

1792
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 8: There's no doubt about it. They act like he pointed down.

1793
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 8: He just pointed. He never got a you know, information

1794
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 8: from the official, but he had done at the entire game.

1795
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 8: And so for the Chiefs to handle it the way

1796
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 8: they did it, I thought it was terrible. And for

1797
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomes to walk over when Josh Allen's coming over

1798
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 8: to say something to him after the game and to

1799
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 8: bring that up, I thought that was out of character

1800
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 8: and it was out of line.

1801
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 5: I thought it was ridiculous.

1802
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 2: Pete, how much of that is just the frustrations boiling

1803
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 2: over of Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes knowing that they

1804
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 2: don't have the offense that they've had in the past,

1805
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 2: that they really they got to think about how they

1806
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 2: play football because they're really a defensive first team now.

1807
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 5: No doubt about it. They're not scoring points.

1808
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 8: I mean that Buffalo defense has so many guys missing

1809
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 8: and they couldn't score points.

1810
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 5: It's a problem.

1811
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 8: And by the way, anybody who's going to finish in

1812
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 8: the second spot in the AFC you do not want

1813
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 8: to play the Buffalo Bills. I'm telling that the offense

1814
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 8: has come alive. They can score. Next week you'll see it.

1815
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 8: They play Dallas, and you do not. Of all the

1816
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 8: teams that are possibly going to be in the playoffs,

1817
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 8: Jake Brown, Thank Gardner, Minshew, the Broncos, maybe the Texans,

1818
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 8: you'd much rather play all of those teams than Josh

1819
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 8: Allen and the Buffalo Bills.

1820
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 3: Well, Pete, well the good news is we're fourth now,

1821
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 3: so we're in. It's a safe spot.

1822
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 2: And I will say that there might have been a

1823
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 2: little frustration boiling up. Isn't that the third time that

1824
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:21,600
Speaker 2: Buffalo's going to Kansas City and beating beating them?

1825
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:24,799
Speaker 3: Last year they did? No, Yeah, they beat him last.

1826
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:28,879
Speaker 5: Year playoff game. Remember that was a couple of years ago.

1827
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 2: Right, I thought it was three times that they have

1828
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 2: beaten them in in Kansas City. All right, those are

1829
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 2: the fanatics fan questions. Did you get to the guy

1830
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 2: that you blew off for all this all year?

1831
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the first question. Okay, good for you. Yeah,

1832
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 3: because he came up and was like, why don't you

1833
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 3: answer my questions? Well, Pete, we started the show of

1834
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 3: me reprimanding JP for triple locking and ruining the kid.

1835
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 5: Everybody's every nobody wants hints any anymore. You're out, JP.

1836
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 2: You did I am. I've already set him out. I

1837
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 2: didn't need you to tell me I'm out that from

1838
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 2: the jump. I'm back in a moment, and we'll go

1839
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 2: around the league and pick Monday.

1840
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:06,719
Speaker 3: Night Football and grab your hats.

1841
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 2: Get ready for George Straight with Chris Staples and Little

1842
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,639
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1845
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Speaker 4: You're doing that, You're gonna start off the flowings are

1846
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 4: gonna happen.

1847
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 6: We were in a position, we were in many positions

1848
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 6: to tie the game and then take over the game.

1849
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 3: We didn't do it.

1850
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 5: So you know, you gotta you gotta kind of roll

1851
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 5: with the punches sometimes but finish in the end.

1852
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:50,480
Speaker 6: We have most opportunities and just didn't get it done.

1853
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 2: Evan Ingram Jaguars tight end twelve targets, eleven catches, ninety

1854
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 2: five yards and two touchdowns in the loss yesterday in Cleveland,

1855
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:02,880
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1856
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1857
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Speaker 2: Pete Prisco of course with us and for ten years,

1858
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1859
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1860
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Speaker 2: for all the available inventory and go Jags. How about

1861
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 2: Evan Ingram. He's on pace for over one hundred catches

1862
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 2: this year.

1863
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 3: He's unbelievable, way more than one hundred. That's what I'm

1864
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 3: saying right now. Unreal Now, not huge yards per catch,

1865
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 3: probably won't get to one thousand yards.

1866
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 2: But he is eleventh in the league now in receptions

1867
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 2: and out of the top twenty receivers in receptions in

1868
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 2: the National Football League. He has the highest catch percentage,

1869
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 2: which is impressive.

1870
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 3: He remember coming in from the Giants, the book on

1871
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 3: him is that he had the drops oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1872
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 3: and just I mean, I know we got to get

1873
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 3: the rest of league. But real quick thing on Evan

1874
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 3: if you have maybe some of our fans already know this,

1875
01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 3: but I don't think there's a harder worker in the

1876
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 3: organization right now than Evan Ingram of like, I mean,

1877
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 3: I'm not I don't know how much film he watches.

1878
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 3: I think a lot and a lot of guys are

1879
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 3: work their work ethics great on this team, but this

1880
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 3: is a guy before after practice, before the game, is

1881
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 3: working on his craft constantly and it's paying.

1882
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 2: Off one of the great acquisitions in Jaguars history and

1883
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 2: free agency. And I remember, I don't want to bring

1884
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 2: up the past, but you and I arguing because I

1885
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 2: was a big fan of that sign, and You're like,

1886
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't know stru one.

1887
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 3: Thing that I wish with Evan.

1888
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 2: I wish more defenses treated him like a true tight end.

1889
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 3: Well, the problem they don't and they can't, and part

1890
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 3: of it is because, I mean, Evan is not an

1891
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 3: in line tight end that's going to dominate a DEFENSI end.

1892
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:49,720
Speaker 3: I mean he's not George Kittle. George Kittle is a

1893
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 3: like an offensive tackle blocking.

1894
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 2: And if you get a little bit more favorable match

1895
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:56,799
Speaker 2: he gets a lot of corner looks.

1896
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 3: He gets all the time, so it's not as big

1897
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:00,839
Speaker 3: as the match difference.

1898
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick look around the NFL. Let's start off, though,

1899
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 2: with the AFC playoff chase going into the night.

1900
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 3: The Ravens the number one seed.

1901
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 2: Currently, the Dolphins played a night on Monday Night Football,

1902
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 2: they're the number two. If they win tonight, they be

1903
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 2: back at number one. Chiefs Jaguars three and four, then

1904
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 2: the Browns at five in the wild card race. Then

1905
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 2: there are what six teams peate that are seven and

1906
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 2: six in the AFC. This thing is gonna go out.

1907
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 3: On the wire.

1908
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, if you look at the schedules, you know some

1909
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:29,760
Speaker 8: teams have are gonna end up playing each A lot

1910
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 8: of those teams play each other, you know, like you

1911
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 8: look at the Bengals play a bunch of those teams,

1912
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 8: and you know, the Texans played the Colts the end

1913
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 8: of the year.

1914
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 5: So I think it's gonna play out.

1915
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 8: But if Buffalo beats Dallas this week, they have two

1916
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 8: winnable games and then their final game of the season

1917
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:48,759
Speaker 8: will be at Miami, and the question becomes will Miami

1918
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 8: need it?

1919
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:50,680
Speaker 5: They probably will, but you never know.

1920
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 8: So I think Buffalo wins this week against Dallas, they're

1921
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 8: gonna get in. They're gonna be the seventh seat, and

1922
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 8: again you don't want to play them.

1923
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 3: You know.

1924
01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 8: The Texan situation is interesting. They had lost that game,

1925
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 8: they were terrible.

1926
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 6: C J.

1927
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 8: Stroud was awful against the Jets on Sunday before he

1928
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 8: got hurt, and now it's even more of a problem.

1929
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 3: Behind the scenes sign language. I thought someone's gonna see

1930
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 3: I don't know all I know.

1931
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 2: It's Monday Night football. It's two for the price of one.

1932
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 2: We started in South Florida, where to a tongue of

1933
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 2: by low A Tyreek Hill and the nine and three

1934
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins look to stay at the top of the AFC.

1935
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 3: They entertained the four.

1936
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 2: And eight Tennessee Titans plus the six and six Green

1937
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,559
Speaker 2: Bay Packers, with Jordan Love playing well.

1938
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 3: Visit the four and eight New York Football Giants. Oh

1939
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 3: you got in both, Tony, Wow, you nailed it.

1940
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 2: I mean, after three weeks ago completely flubbing everything, you're

1941
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:45,719
Speaker 2: on a streak and you had back to back.

1942
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:46,719
Speaker 3: I give you credit.

1943
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 5: Jp.

1944
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 3: I'm not locking to either one. No, you're not allowed

1945
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 3: to lock anything. I mean, I think the Dolphins boat

1946
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 3: race the Titans, and I think Green Bay is man.

1947
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 3: That's the youngest team in the NFL. Give Matt Lafure

1948
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 3: a ton of it and that young roster. They're doing

1949
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 3: a good job. And Jordan Loves starting. I mean watching

1950
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 3: him last week Monday Night football is like, my goodness,

1951
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:11,879
Speaker 3: this guy's not bad. Turn out, go ahead, I'm taking Miami.

1952
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 2: I mean that's an easy Titan just can't get They

1953
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 2: can't keep pace with that feet And who's green Bay

1954
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 2: playing Giants?

1955
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 3: Because I got so distracted by your inne do you

1956
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 3: like it? I mean, you really think I'm gonna pick

1957
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 3: the Giants? We could do that on Thursdays if you want.

1958
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 3: I'm really gonna pick the Giants. I mean, is the

1959
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 3: kid that's still staying at home with his mom.

1960
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 5: Can't do that?

1961
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 3: Come on, look, I'm not I'm not picking a quarterback. Pete.

1962
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 2: Okay, that still ends up having his mom make his

1963
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 2: bed on a daily base.

1964
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 3: So you got Pete.

1965
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 8: Sorry, Hey, Tebow's dad was on the practice field every

1966
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 8: day in Florida.

1967
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 5: He wanted Heasman trophy, so he's got that going for.

1968
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,559
Speaker 3: Didn't work for him in the NFL, though, Pete. Yeah,

1969
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 3: we're talking about.

1970
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 8: Thet I got the Dolphins, and I think the Giants

1971
01:36:58,240 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 8: will hang around. But I think green Bay wins the

1972
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 8: game again. I think it's going to be a little

1973
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:02,879
Speaker 8: closer than expected.

1974
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 5: Green Bay. Keep an eye on them. They are going

1975
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 5: to make the postseason.

1976
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 3: Oh that's a call? Is that a lock? We're not

1977
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 3: walking this week. We're taking a break off. No locks,

1978
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 3: no locks this week, no locks this week. I am

1979
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:22,600
Speaker 3: right now, I am not Pete.

1980
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 2: This is how we do Monday's logs. Thanks for coming out,

1981
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 2: many thanks, thanks for joining us. Thanks for the free food.

1982
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 2: That's Jeff Logan, I got you.

1983
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 3: You got your.

1984
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 2: Pete Brisco, Tony MASSELLI covered it all our entire crew

1985
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 2: here and back of the stadium. Thanks for coming out

1986
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 2: to mister Chubby's wings. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.