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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. Coming to you

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Speaker 1: from inside NRG Stadium Hyunday, Texans Radio studio across the

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Speaker 1: hall from the locker room. I'm Mark Vandermarron. Tonight, John McLean,

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Speaker 1: the General from the Houston Chronicle with us in studio.

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Speaker 1: All right, General, I really enjoyed being in the NFL

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Speaker 1: regular season. Didn't enjoy the loss the other night. But hey,

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Speaker 1: you move on. You got fifteen more of these. Let's

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Speaker 1: see where it takes them as they get ready for

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville this Sunday. And I know there were a lot

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Speaker 1: of good encouraging things that went on in that game.

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Speaker 1: On Monday night. I watched the Jacksonville game, and it's

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Speaker 1: amazing to me that they scored twenty six with a

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. But Gardner, minsh, you played great. I'm writing

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Speaker 1: about him in Friday's Chronicle. And and then they gave

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Speaker 1: up that defense, didn't get a sack, gave up forty

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Speaker 1: points even though Tyree Hill only had two catches for

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Speaker 1: eighteen yards before he went out with the shoulder injury.

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Speaker 1: I think it means anybody, as long as my homes

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Speaker 1: is there, he can make magic with anybody. And the

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Speaker 1: thing we learned about the Texans. You know, where did

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Speaker 1: the running game come from? One hundred and eighty yards

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Speaker 1: seven point carried with no ninety seven yard run? And

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Speaker 1: then also what you and I talked about and for

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Speaker 1: three years now, as long as Watson's got the ball,

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Speaker 1: you had a chance. Yep, You're never out of it.

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Speaker 1: Problem is that's the fourth time in his career that

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Speaker 1: he's put the Texans ahead late and then a quarter

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Speaker 1: A great quarterback comes from behind against the defense. New

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Speaker 1: England and Seattle is rookie year, Philadelphia last year, and

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Speaker 1: then Drew Brees this year, all on the road, all

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Speaker 1: against teams that I'm assuming that they'll go to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs this year. Here, well, what are those quarterbacks have

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Speaker 1: in common? All four of them have won Super Bowls? Yep,

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Speaker 1: and two of them are top five all time. Not

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Speaker 1: that that's an excuse, but hey, you lost to some

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Speaker 1: good people. At least two of them are going to

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame and a third, Russell Wilson could

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Speaker 1: But to be an elite team, as Bill O'Brien pointed out,

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Speaker 1: you got to win those games. And until they win

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Speaker 1: those games, make a stop. They're not going to be

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Speaker 1: an elite team. And tell you something I heard very interesting.

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Speaker 1: I like to listen to Brett Farves weekly segment on

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Speaker 1: the NFL radio. He watched the game and he was

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Speaker 1: talking about something and Bill O'Brien said this. But you know, fans,

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Speaker 1: they may or may not listen. But when Brett Farves

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Speaker 1: says it, and he's got no dog in the hunt.

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Speaker 1: He said, Deshaun Watson style, he's gonna get it a lot.

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Speaker 1: He said, I played that style. I got it a lot.

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Speaker 1: I knew if I stayed in the pocket all the time,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't get hit as much. But that's not my game.

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Speaker 1: He said. You can't make Watson stay in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: That's not his game. So the way he plays, he's

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Speaker 1: going to get hit, whether it's moving around away from

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Speaker 1: the protection, whether it's running, that's just his style. He said.

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Speaker 1: He will learn as I did, though, little things you

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Speaker 1: can do to help either avoid a hit or not

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Speaker 1: take a direct hit, and that comes with experience. And

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Speaker 1: he said, I would not try to change the way

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Speaker 1: he plays. What he's got to do his work on

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Speaker 1: his body. Build up that body gets stronger, add a

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Speaker 1: little weight, put muscle on. He helps you withstead all

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Speaker 1: the hits you're gonna get in your career. Well, let's

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Speaker 1: see if you can do that. Now, John the quarterback

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Speaker 1: on the other side. You mentioned Minshew, he's a rookie.

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Speaker 1: He looked pretty good in relief. That's an understatement. Yeah

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Speaker 1: and yeah, so we'll see what he can do. Now.

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Speaker 1: The Texans have lost to rookies before. They've lost to

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Speaker 1: rookies before at home, and it's so it's happened not

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Speaker 1: under Romeo Grenew, not under Romeo. So that's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: You're going back, what to the dinosaur age? Yeah, dinosaur age. Well,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'll give you two of them. You know,

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Speaker 1: I say this to kind of get everybody. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to scare everybody by want I do want everybody

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Speaker 1: to know that it's an NFL game and anything can happen.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna scare anybody talking about something that happened

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Speaker 1: in the dark ages. Okay, what rookie one here? Ryan Fitzpatrick. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Ryan did in two thousand and five. Maybe I was

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Speaker 1: I was at the game, you were a child. Maybe

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Speaker 1: the best game of his career could be. But came

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Speaker 1: off the bench for James Mark Romeo Cornell nine and one.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you another one. Mark Sanchez in two thousand

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Speaker 1: was that was like it's ten years ago, literally, So

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Speaker 1: what could you being mister? No, I'm not being negative.

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Speaker 1: I just point this out to say this is tough.

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Speaker 1: And look, I think I should be in the team meeting.

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Speaker 1: I think I should be in the squad room. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it can happen, I can't, So you better

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Speaker 1: be on your toes. Not that they wouldn't be, but

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Speaker 1: I'd like to remind them. Well, I don't think they

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Speaker 1: need reminding because they know these two words. Jacobe and Brasette,

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Speaker 1: who humiliated them even though Ali did was run didn't

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Speaker 1: turn it over twenty seven to nothing? Was that a

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Speaker 1: primetime game? And Day just were awful. But the others

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Speaker 1: last year beat Baker Mayfield, Sam Darneld and Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: three number one pigs. In two thy fourteen, they bent

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Speaker 1: beat Watch's good friend Zach Mattenburger twice. Yeah, but last

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Speaker 1: year was a bigger test because those guys were first

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Speaker 1: round picks. They're all starters, and Darneld played really well.

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Speaker 1: Mayfield was great in the second half. Alan was better

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Speaker 1: But the fact is Romeo is nine and one against

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks and what has been a fiend And I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing since JJ just came up goose eggs on the

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Speaker 1: stat sheet for the first time in his career, said

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Speaker 1: he played bad, took the blame that he's going to

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Speaker 1: come back quite with a vengeance against the Jaguars and

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Speaker 1: rookie offensive Toime Bael Joan Taylor. I know Whitney Mercillis

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Speaker 1: had a sack the other night, but another pass rusher

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Speaker 1: to watch possibly is Jake Martin. John Harris, my good buddy,

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Speaker 1: pointed out that lad in the game, Martin had a

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Speaker 1: hit on Drew Brees. The ball comes out but almost doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Martin gets there, but you know, Breeze is so good

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Speaker 1: at getting rid of it. He's the least sacked quarterback

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Speaker 1: to find a way. But I'm eager to see what

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Speaker 1: Martin can do as a pass rusher. I believe I

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Speaker 1: told you this last week after they made the trade

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Speaker 1: and Romeo Canal said he has speed off the edge

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Speaker 1: is what you love when you're a three fourth coach

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Speaker 1: like Romeo is. And the other thing is in Seattle's

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Speaker 1: in the last six games that Jake and Martin played

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Speaker 1: his rookie he had three sacks. Now that would have

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Speaker 1: he was one of the key components. Burt Kiva's men go,

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Speaker 1: when they need him. But Martin who played at Temple,

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Speaker 1: Matt Rule, who went on and on about his speed,

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Speaker 1: his quickness, his eagerness to learn, his coachability, and he

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Speaker 1: said on special teams that kid it will hit and run. Well,

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Speaker 1: they liked that on pass rushing too. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: guess over the second half of the season, Jacob Martin's

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Speaker 1: without Aaron Colvin slock corner a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: mystery going in. Of course, they're practicing behind closed doors,

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Speaker 1: so it could be a surprise or not. What do

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Speaker 1: you think they're gonna try to do here? I think

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Speaker 1: Lonnie Johnson will play and Bradley Roby will go inside,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Joseph will stay outside, and then I also believe

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Speaker 1: the Keion crossing and came from New England and they

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Speaker 1: thought he played well in that first game, and he's

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Speaker 1: played inside and out. You'll see him play inside as well.

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Speaker 1: I think is gonna be like on offense. You know

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Speaker 1: last week you look up Hopkins inside steals his inside.

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Speaker 1: Fuller's on the inside, Duke Johnson's on the outside. Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien called formations in which those guys didn't line up.

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Speaker 1: I don't think two plays in a row in the

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Speaker 1: that on defense, so they can't focus one guy. Roby

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Speaker 1: an inside receiver. And J Joe always stay outside. And

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Speaker 1: Philip Gaines, who ran a four three eight coming out

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Speaker 1: they can get. I believe he'll get some blame time

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Speaker 1: because it's not that hard tell a corner, go out

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Speaker 1: there and cover this guy as long as you're not

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Speaker 1: making him think too much and gains A smart guy

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Speaker 1: and he's an experience. I expect him to get on

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Speaker 1: his kid on crossing. All right, So John, back to

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Speaker 1: for instance, Duke Johnson and there was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: just a communication thing. And the loud super dome. Overall,

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Speaker 1: when you run for one eighty, you're doing a lot

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Speaker 1: of things right. And I know there were six sacks

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Speaker 1: throw it a lot and it was a hostile environment

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Speaker 1: and they got a lot done on offense. Okay, let

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Speaker 1: me point this out to the listeners, because the offensive

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Speaker 1: lines getting killed all over the country by people at

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Speaker 1: see six sacks and they blame the line. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying the line played well because I didn't expect it

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Speaker 1: to because they haven't been together. Tonsil just got here,

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Speaker 1: but the other lineman didn't play together in preseason because

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Speaker 1: of injuries. They didn't have the regular lineup in there.

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Speaker 1: One time, Sean Drill Henderson playing his first game since

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Speaker 1: first quarter of last season, and he looked like it.

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Speaker 1: But out of those six sacks were the Lions fault

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Speaker 1: one tight end to Watson. People around the country are

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Speaker 1: not looking that stuff up. They just see six. I've

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Speaker 1: been reading the boil. Their lines terrible again, and it's

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Speaker 1: going to get better, you know, once they get their

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Speaker 1: you're playing in a loud environment, they're going to get better.

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Speaker 1: But the running game, as I mentioned earlier, I watched

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Speaker 1: the game twice and I stop action it and I

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Speaker 1: run it one step at a time. And it's not

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Speaker 1: like there was a ninety seven yard run, you know.

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Speaker 1: For Carlos, I'd get eighty three yards on ten carries

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Speaker 1: and he had good vision mark he would have a hole,

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Speaker 1: but then it would close and he would make a

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Speaker 1: quick cut to his left and need to do the

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Speaker 1: same thing to the right. Duke Johnson had the thirty

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Speaker 1: two yard run. Duke is not an inside runner, at

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Speaker 1: least he wasn't in that one. In Jacksonville's defense, despite

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Speaker 1: giving up forty and not have any sacks, is better

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Speaker 1: Carlos Hide very well because they had him last year

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Speaker 1: Texans have tape of Gardner Minshew, they have tape of

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Speaker 1: the running game. But the lineman did a terrific job

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Speaker 1: doesn't surprise us at all considering the Trees got all

427
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Speaker 1: of his boys are in coaching or scouting. John, how

428
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Speaker 1: good are the Saints And what's the Saints Rams game

429
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Speaker 1: gonna be? Like? Well, you think that's a revenge game.

430
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Speaker 1: The Rams went across country, didn't low out Carolina want

431
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Speaker 1: to close one but their home to cause sim's gonna

432
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Speaker 1: be sold out. I thought it was cute of so

433
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Speaker 1: many people and the Saints fans wearing reference officials jerseys

434
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Speaker 1: yes as their own protest. I saw him downtown doing that.

435
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Speaker 1: I thought that was a great idea. And I don't

436
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Speaker 1: see the Saints coming off such a nail biter and

437
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Speaker 1: which you win with a fifty eight yard field goal

438
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: with no time left, going out and beating and beating

439
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Speaker 1: the Rams. The Rams are still good as interesting to

440
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 1: see how they played Todd Gurley and at the end

441
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Speaker 1: and at McVeigh I saw some people say they thought

442
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: they would take a step back. Why look at his

443
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: first two years. If anything, they're gonna win a Super Bowl.

444
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Speaker 1: I don't see him taking a step back at all.

445
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Speaker 1: And I think they're gonna beat the Saints, Hey Chargers

446
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: at Lions. What do you think of? La said it

447
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: right this time. I love La. We're not gonna see La.

448
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna be in Carson. Yeah, I know, which is

449
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: at the confluence of three freeways closes. I gives stay

450
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: in La, La X and flying in and out there Detroit.

451
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: It feels like a lass to blow that game in

452
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: Arizona and end up in a tie. I felt like

453
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: a victory for the Cardinals and a laws. What can

454
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: we do about that? Can we please have the overtime

455
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: go at least fifteen minutes? I mean when they changed it,

456
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Speaker 1: we ask at the NFL meetings Rich McKay, president of

457
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Speaker 1: the Competition Committee, you're gonna have more times, he said,

458
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Speaker 1: So we know it. We don't care. Both teams feel awful, Yes, awful.

459
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 1: They'd rather lose until the networks in this next negotiation,

460
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: I say we don't want any more ties. Yeah, because

461
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: if it's extended people and more people are gonna watch

462
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: and the ratings are gonna go up. What do you

463
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Speaker 1: have going out to the chronicle? General, Um, I am

464
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Speaker 1: writing let's see for Friday about what the Texans are

465
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Speaker 1: gonna do about a rookie quarterback and how we talked

466
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: about Romeo Cornell is faired. We have two podcasts looking

467
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Speaker 1: back at the Saints the Strategy and another one coming up.

468
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Speaker 1: We're looking ahead to the Jaguars. And thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: I always have a good time being on the air

470
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Speaker 1: with you. Always a pleasure, General. We really appreciate the visit.

471
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Mark. Next up, John Harris is

472
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Speaker 1: going to join me for a little bit. We'll also

473
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Speaker 1: talk injuries. What about turf toe? What about that injury?

474
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Speaker 1: Houston Methodist Minutes coming up. They calling all Houston area teachers.

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Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to have your listening to Texans All Access.

483
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Speaker 1: In the Thursday night game after this show, it'll be

484
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Speaker 1: Carol Outa and Tampa Bay a divisional game, and John

485
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: Harris joins us now in the Hunday Texans Radio Studio

486
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: and Johnny I wrote about this when coaches say divisional

487
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: games are more important than the other games. Obviously in

488
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: the standings, this is true, but they also talk about,

489
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna paraphrase here, these are throw the records

490
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Speaker 1: out games. Circumstances don't matter. These are divisional games. And

491
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: I think you gotta believe the coaches. It's not just

492
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: coach speak. It's true. They know you better than anybody.

493
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: There's a reason why you sign guys in your division

494
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Speaker 1: more than other guys, or people tend to do that,

495
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: teams tend to do that. It's because the familiarity. And

496
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: here we are, here are our old friends, the Jacksonville Jaguars.

497
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Speaker 1: I don't care who's playing quarterback, what they're doing. In fact,

498
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Speaker 1: this guy could be pretty dangerous. Your thoughts, well, where's

499
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: Jort's has a mustache? And where's Aviator sunglasses? So there's

500
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Speaker 1: a start. It's funny because I was actually listening to

501
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Speaker 1: Landry Locker this morning and he made a funny comment.

502
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Speaker 1: He's like, I'm looking for every reason to vilify Gardner

503
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: Minshew and he's like, I can't find it, can't find it.

504
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: I like, he's a very likable guy, and I really

505
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: like his story. Well, we have a likable quarterback. No,

506
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: there's no question, but I mean there's the opponents have

507
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: to feel that way, like, oh man, I really like Watson.

508
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: I know, it's not like I hate Tom Brady. Well

509
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: some people like him, but you know what I'm saying.

510
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: You know what it really resonated with me about that

511
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: was Seattle to watch the Seahawks literally lining up the

512
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: defensive Seahawks defensive players lining up to shake his hand

513
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: and tell him nobody's ever done that to us before.

514
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean, to see that you really you understood the

515
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: gravity of a guy like DeShawn Watson. But I listen,

516
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: he's a sixth rounder, and you know, people like, oh,

517
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Speaker 1: could he be the next Tom Brady? You know, at

518
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Speaker 1: the time somebody comes to the sixth round, I think,

519
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: could he be? Look the guy with twenty two of

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Speaker 1: twenty five against the defense that's supposed to be improved

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City. I say supposed to because I don't

522
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: know how much it actually is improved. But when you

523
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Speaker 1: do that NFL game, you got some jobs, you know,

524
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: and I think helped him. This is gonna be strange.

525
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: He was one guy that benefited from playing all those

526
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: preseason games. Yeah, he played a ton because Falls didn't play.

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Speaker 1: He got a ton of reps. And yeah he was

528
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: going against some twos and some threes and maybe a

529
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: few ones bixed in, but he got a bunch a

530
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Speaker 1: bunch of reps. So it's a different ball game obviously

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Speaker 1: when you have to prepare as the guy. And I

532
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: talked to Clint Sterner yesterday and on All Access on

533
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Speaker 1: Wednesday night about that when you know you're the guy

534
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: versus somebody just got hurt, grab your helmet and go in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Because as a player and a coach, I've kind of

536
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: been in those situations in both ways. Like you're a player,

537
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: you just run out there and you're like, I don't

538
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Speaker 1: really know what I'm doing. I'm just playing, yeah, and

539
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: then and then you just like do things like man,

540
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Speaker 1: I don't even know why I'm doing this, but I'm

541
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Speaker 1: just doing it. As a coach. You then go, all right, well,

542
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Speaker 1: how do I adjust? What do I do? And I

543
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 1: had it happened to me as a coach One night

544
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: my quarterback who was a just my all star, he

545
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: was my version to Shaun Watson. I lost him in

546
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Speaker 1: the first quarter and I was were a small school

547
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: and so I really didn't have a backup quarterback, and

548
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Speaker 1: so I had him a decision to make, and that was,

549
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Speaker 1: do I take the kid who is one of my

550
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Speaker 1: starting receivers and we would use him as a backup quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Do I move him there? Or do I take my

552
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: running back? Wait? What did you do? I took my

553
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: running back and I put him in shotgun the whole game,

554
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: and he had him just run and then we just ran.

555
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: Did you throw any passes? He threw one pass. We

556
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: got a pass interference out of it. But it was

557
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: the only game in my entire life ever that I've

558
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: ever been involved with. We threw for zero yards. But

559
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Speaker 1: I remember having this conversation when I'm walking out to

560
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Speaker 1: go see and check up on my quarterback out in

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Speaker 1: the field, and I'm going to check up on him,

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Speaker 1: and I'm talking to my coach upstairs. I'm like, what

563
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Speaker 1: do I do? Do I go with the receiver or

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00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: do I put Yeah? And it was weird because that

565
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Speaker 1: we could practice. I had actually just messed around with

566
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Speaker 1: putting my running back at quarterback. Just what would happen

567
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Speaker 1: if I did it? Oh? Wow, you spoken into being?

568
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: And then and then I did it, spoken into being

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Speaker 1: and then I was I grabbed him. His name was John,

570
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: but we all his nickname was Bubba because we're at

571
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: this hoity toity private school and he he was from

572
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: Clay County and a little rough round the edges, but

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Speaker 1: we call him Bubba. I was like, Bubba, here's what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're round these five plays. Basically, you

575
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: know him because you run him at running back. And

576
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: that's what we got the rest of the night, and

577
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: we ran for like four hundred eighty yards. They couldn't

578
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: stop it, and they couldn't stop it. But the thing

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Speaker 1: was is, as a coach, I had to I had

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Speaker 1: to figure out, Okay, what can I run with him? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What can I What can I do with him? And

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Speaker 1: I think that's what John D. Philippo did the other

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Speaker 1: day with Gardner Minshew. Now, he obviously he's a quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: so he's been at every meeting, so he probably knew

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Speaker 1: there was an expanded playbook that he could run with him.

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Speaker 1: But he also knew there were some things probably that

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have to pull back from. And I would

588
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Speaker 1: imagine against us this week, he's gonna do that too.

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00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna pull a few things out. He might

590
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: put a few things in. But I think to underestimate

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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, that's a mistake. I think the other thing

592
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: to do. The other thing that's a mistake is if

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Speaker 1: you underestimate these wide receivers because I don't think there

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Speaker 1: are any all pros or pro bowler in this group,

595
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: but I do think it's a group of guys that

596
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: can run Conley Westbrook chart. These are all guys that

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00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: can run. It's no day off for the secondary. There's

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00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: no question. There's no day off. Now, you do not

599
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: have in Gardner Minshew a guy that is used to

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Speaker 1: having heat in his face and having to deliver the

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00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: ball on time and deep down the field and eye

602
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But I would imagine there's gonna come

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Speaker 1: a time where they're gonna test down the field with

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Speaker 1: their speed, and they did the other day against the

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00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: Chiefs and it hit and that's the play that Foals

606
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: got knocked out. But with Westbrook, Conley and Chark, you

607
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: got some dudes that can get down the field, so

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Speaker 1: you can't underestimate them. I still think the key is

609
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Speaker 1: you gotta shut down twenty seven. You gotta shut down Fournette.

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Speaker 1: You gotta match your physical with him. And you've only

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Speaker 1: faced him one time in the two years plus that

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00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: he's been in the league, so you've got to shut

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Speaker 1: him down. You gotta shut down the run. You can't

614
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: give him any alleys. But Gardner Minshew thrown the ball deep.

615
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: Does worry me a little bit because they've got guys

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Speaker 1: that can go get it. What about accurately too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Sean brought up a good point this morning talking about, man,

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Speaker 1: you don't want Fournette that a good day in there

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Speaker 1: and third and four a lot third and third and

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00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: short issue where he can complete a short pass. He

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Speaker 1: would chains move in and I said chains as opposed

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Speaker 1: to change. I went to get to my own thing.

623
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Speaker 1: But I do that on the shows. You know the

624
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: game I'm all about formality. Well, very true, but you're right,

625
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: and in the opener in twenty seventeen, think that was

626
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: the exact formula. Let Fournette pound, He's not gonna lose yardage.

627
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: He let him pound and get the third and four,

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00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: and then Bortles would make a short completion. Let Fournette

629
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Speaker 1: pound portals short completion, you know, get the third down,

630
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Speaker 1: and that's how that's how they put together a couple

631
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Speaker 1: of scoring drives. And then eventually, when Fournette keeps pounding at,

632
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, pounding at, the rocket's gonna break. And then

633
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: he pops one for fifty yards and you're like, oh man,

634
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: we thought we had this thing under control, and before

635
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: you know it, they're up seventeen nothing. So that's what

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Speaker 1: you cannot you cannot allow to happen in any way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form. You've got to remind Gardner Minshew that yes,

638
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Speaker 1: he is a rookie, and yeah he belongs in the league,

639
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: but he doesn't belong on your level. What you've got

640
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Speaker 1: to make sure that you impose that will on him.

641
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Speaker 1: On Sunday afternoon, all right, let me throw a couple

642
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: of college football things that you're really quick, because this

643
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: is really a phenomenal weekend. I know you talked about

644
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Speaker 1: it with Fletch last night and it's been discussed this week,

645
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Speaker 1: but maybe not a big enough deal as being made

646
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Speaker 1: of the fact that in this building in three days

647
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Speaker 1: you get the University of Texas, Rice, the University of Houston,

648
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Speaker 1: Washington State visiting. Okay, I mean if you had the

649
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Speaker 1: Aggies here or something like that that we so unbelieved,

650
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Speaker 1: even Baylor or whatever, you know, another Texas school would

651
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: be great. But but you have these two Houston D

652
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Speaker 1: one programs Texas and and Leach coming back to the

653
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: lone star state. It's a huge weekend against you h

654
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Speaker 1: this Washington State Cougar matchup, Cougars versus the Cougars take. Yeah,

655
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Speaker 1: then then you're assured something something positive because they'll be

656
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Speaker 1: in overtime all night if they have to. It's college football.

657
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Speaker 1: What do you think of this one? Well, I think

658
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Speaker 1: Gavin and anybody working on the videoboard might need to

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Speaker 1: keep the LED's hot, really, because I think there will

660
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Speaker 1: be some points. There'll be some points. Now, I think

661
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Speaker 1: Washington defense a little underrated. The Washington State defense one

662
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Speaker 1: of the toughest aspects of Washington State was they lost

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00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: their safety Jayleen Thompson, who was a really good player,

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Speaker 1: I mean really good player, probably the best defensive player

665
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: that watched the state was gonna have back, but he

666
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: had to go to the supplemental draft. I can't. I

667
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: don't know if it was an ineligibility. I can't. I

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00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: think it was he was ineligible and so he ended

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Speaker 1: up going into the supplemental draft. That her Washington State.

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Speaker 1: But Washington State moves its front a lot. They do

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Speaker 1: a lot of movement. They're not the biggest group in

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Speaker 1: the world. But don't get afterward. They they their defense

673
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: is underrated because Leech in the offense get all get

674
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: all the run, and in the offense gets that run

675
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: with for a good reason. But University Uson can move

676
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: the ball. Garrett King as as good a dual threat

677
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: college quarterback as you're gonna find, and hasn't the strongest

678
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: arm in the world, but he's still coming off that

679
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: acl he's still trying to find himself calling DeShawn was

680
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: last year and still kind of get to that point

681
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: where he he was prior to the injury. But he's dynamic,

682
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: and you know they're gonna put points on the board.

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Speaker 1: What I worry about from university. Houston's can stop Washington State,

684
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Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna know what Washington State does.

685
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Dana knows it backwards and forwards. They're gonna

686
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: know what Washington State does. But there's a difference in

687
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Speaker 1: knowing what they do and then seeing it stopping it

688
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: for a group that that has struggled a little bit.

689
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Oklahoma is a tough That's a tough one

690
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: right out of the gate because Oklahoma can throw you

691
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: some different things. But I think the Houston defense will

692
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: get better. But I think this is gonna end up

693
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: being a shootout, a big time shootout. I think it

694
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: gets into the maybe the forties for each team. But

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00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of what you want in a neutral site game,

696
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Speaker 1: especially if you're running like man, we want points. The

697
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: Texas Bowl last year, Vanderbilton and Baylor put on a

698
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: show man. They put on points, big plays. Everybody was

699
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: excited about that. Listen. I love defense, and I played defense,

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00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: so I want to see some defense in the game,

701
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: but points get exciting. Does Rice have a snowball's chance

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00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: of keeping a close? Texas is good offensively, I mean

703
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: really upset really good. And Rice's quarterback Whyley Green got

704
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: hurt at the goal line last week against Wake Forrest

705
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: and he was trying to get in the end zone

706
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: and right as he was, he was kind of lunging

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Speaker 1: for it and look like he was gonna make it,

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00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: and then right as he lunched, he kind of got

709
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: hitting his helmet and neck kind of snapped a little

710
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: bit and they had to card him off. So Rice

711
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: is having to deal with with that aspect, so that

712
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: that's gonna be tough. But what Rice will do is,

713
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to say ugly up the game, but

714
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna Stanford up the game. They're gonna pound and

715
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: pound and pound and make Texas have to stop it

716
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: and they're gonna shorten a game that way. That's that's

717
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: the bloom grind style coming from Stanford where he coached

718
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: David schaff for a long time. So that's the way

719
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna do it. But Texas has so many different weapons,

720
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: so many different weapons, and an Ellinger was so good

721
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Speaker 1: against LSU. The receivers was so good against LSU against

722
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: a really good secondary. I just don't know that Rice

723
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: can stop them fully. And I think that's gonna be

724
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: the issue. How good is LSU well, now that they

725
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: have an offense, My gosh, I like that quarterback. Now

726
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: that they have an offense, Joe Burrow, holy smokes. Those

727
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: three receiver that it was a it was. It was

728
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: three receivers on each side. It was Eagles Colin Johnson

729
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: and Devin du vernand Texas and it was Jamar Chase Jordan,

730
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson and uh, gosh, I forgot the third receiver

731
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: for LSU. But those guys put on a show, and

732
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: Burrow and Ellinger were just sitting mac dealing and it

733
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: was fun, fun to watch. LSU's got an offense. Now,

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Speaker 1: holy smokes, the secondary is one of the best in

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00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: the country. If the front can just hold up a

736
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: little bit better, Elsho's gonna be a nasty out man.

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00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: I didn't hear the whole interview with Fletch David Fletcher,

738
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: general manager a Lone Star Sports and Entertainment, But did

739
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: you guys talk about the change over in the building

740
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: and how busy people inside this building are gonna be

741
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: with three football games hosted in three days? I said,

742
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: how how are you going to pull us off? And

743
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: he just kind of chuckled and said we'll find a way. Yeah,

744
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: And I mean that's the thing we always find away.

745
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: And the one thing I didn't get a chance to

746
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: say to him, but I would. I'll say it now.

747
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: If there's any organization that could pull it off, it's

748
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: it's ours and it's LSS doing it all together. I mean,

749
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Speaker 1: we're the only organization that I would that would be

750
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: able to pull this off. That if people didn't know

751
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: that there were two college games on Friday and Saturday,

752
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: then when Texans fans come in here on Sunday, they're like,

753
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: they wouldn't know any different, right. But and that's that's

754
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: the whole goal, and that's that the Texans game day

755
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: experience remains the best in the NFL. Like it's been

756
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: named by many third parties. Johnny, thanks a lot, Johnny Harris.

757
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: Follow him on Twitter at Jay Harris Football. Hey, if

758
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: the Texans score two or more touchdowns like they did

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00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: on Monday, head dear closest jack in the box the

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00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: next day for your free Texans jumbo Jack with a

761
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: large drink purchase. That is awesome. You know it's not

762
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: awesome turf toe. So let's talk about it now with

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Speaker 1: doctor Pedro cost good duel up Houston Methodist minutes. How's

764
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: it going, doctor, I'm doing well. How about yourself? Doing well?

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00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: And part of the reason is I don't have turf toe.

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Speaker 1: Turf toe is an injury we hear so much about.

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00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: I think one of the Texans was suffering from this recently.

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Speaker 1: And is this the worst named injury in that Yeah,

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00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: it's a toe, but a toe is basically the foot.

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00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: It's such a large part of the foot. What are

771
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: you thinking here? Why does it sound so benign yet

772
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: it can be so tough to recover from. Well, we're

773
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: not talking about just any toe. It's the great toe.

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00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: It's the big toe, the great one, the great one.

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00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: So it's an injury that happens somewhat commonly, and it's

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00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: called turf toe because it was first identifying in players

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00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: that we're playing on a artificial surface. And what we

778
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: think happens is that there's a much larger amount of

779
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: friction between the shoe and the turf, and that lends

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00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: itself to this injury. When the patient has the player

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00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: in this case, has the foot bent down with the

782
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: toe planted on the floor and receives an axial load

783
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: or a player lands on the back of their foot

784
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: and that drives that big toe up, causing an injury

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00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: to the ligament on the bottom of the foot in

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00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: that particular joint. So what's the recovery like. What's the

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00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: treatment like for this? Is it surgical or is it

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00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: something like rest and ice and that sort of thing.

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00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: How do you get better? Well, it all depends on

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00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: the degree of the injury. The majority of these are

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00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: mild sprains. In other words, they stretch the ligaments but

792
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: don't tear them. And those cases we can treat them

793
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: with a period of rest, icing, compression, elevation, and then

794
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: physical therapy to work on that motion and that strengthening.

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Speaker 1: As the injury worsens, and then you have tearing of

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00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: the ligaments and in some cases fractures of the two

797
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: little bones, and they need the big toe, the sesamoid bones.

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Speaker 1: You can actually go down the path to where you

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00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: create instability of the big toe and some of these

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00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: neat surgery. Now, as far as prevention goes, stretching, I

801
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: gotta imagine it helps with everything, but a lot of

802
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: this is based on just accidental contact that causes it, right, correct,

803
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: And so it's really hard to prevent, but there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of research being done by the NFL as well

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00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: as other pointing organizations and looking at that interaction between

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00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: the shoes that we wear and the surfaces that we're

807
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: playing on. So the thought goes that a little bit

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00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: of flippage is actually pretty good. So if that patient

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00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: or that player has that foot down and someone lands

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00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: on our foot and they slip a little bit, actually

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Speaker 1: may protect us from that injury, as opposed to when

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00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of friction that is held to the

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00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: ground by the interaction between the rubber and the surface,

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00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: which can then lead to this type of injury. Great information, doctor,

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate the time. Thank you, You're welcome. Doctor

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Speaker 1: pedro Coscu Duela from Houston Methodist Orthopedics and Sports Medicine

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Speaker 1: hosting sports injury Clinics Saturdays for student athletes across the

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Speaker 1: Greater Houston area. Athletes of all levels can be evaluated

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Speaker 1: by a physician, have X rays or other imaging as needed,

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Speaker 1: all design to get you back into the game as

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Speaker 1: quickly as possible. For more information, log ont to Houston

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Speaker 1: Methodist dot org. Slash Athlete, the official healthcare provider of

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, Houston Methodist leading medicine that's going to

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Speaker 1: do it for the show tonight thanks to John Harris,

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Speaker 1: thanks to John McClain. We'll be back tomorrow at six

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Speaker 1: with all the activity. And don't forget about our doubleheaders

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Speaker 1: shows on Saturday night after the late news on ABC thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Texans Extra Points, Texans Buzz catch him every weekend. Have

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Speaker 1: a great night everyone, and go Texans.