WEBVTT - Mark Sanchez: Jets “Hard Knocks” life, the White House dinner fiasco, broadcast stardom

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<v Speaker 2>And uh yeah, you like that intro? Right, that was

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<v Speaker 2>a good one I did.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more of a blend. It's not really a dalmation.

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<v Speaker 1>My hair's not spotted, but it definitely blends well.

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<v Speaker 1>to tell a friend, to tell a friend, now, Peanut, Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>who is our guests this morning in this beautiful studio.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a good one today. We got a good

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<v Speaker 1>one today. Fred's he's local, you know, he's out of California.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the number five overall draft pick in a

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and nine draft taken by the j E

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<v Speaker 1>t X Jets, Jets, Jets. All right, yes, played ten season,

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<v Speaker 1>four different teams. He's one of only two quarterbacks in

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<v Speaker 1>their first two years to go to the AFC Championship Game.

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<v Speaker 1>He worked for Fox Sports. He calls games now. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a USC m F and legend. Y'all please welcome in

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Sanchez, ladies showman, thank you, thank you. I promise

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<v Speaker 1>she will never get another intro like that ever again.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you do TV, but that is like one

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<v Speaker 1>of the you know that is that is a big

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<v Speaker 1>time energy.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel good now you feel that energy. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know when I walked in. I was a little worried

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<v Speaker 3>watching the whole setup. Yeah no, we just and then

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<v Speaker 3>the intro scared me before the you know, the Dalmatian

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<v Speaker 3>and then but we're good now I'm on.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my uncle though, man, like he this is

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<v Speaker 2>my uncle.

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<v Speaker 1>This the deacon. You gotta think when you first saw

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, he didn't not look so I'm actually yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like he looks like he's like one of those deep

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<v Speaker 1>southern families. Were like, yeah, I'm the uncle that's younger

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<v Speaker 1>than you know what I'm saying, like, this is where

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<v Speaker 1>we're at, right, now, so it's all good, it's all acceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>But Mark, this is my my first question. It's very current.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you were on Hard Knocks at one point

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<v Speaker 1>in time. Have you watched the Hard Knocks this year

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<v Speaker 1>and have you been keeping up with it? Knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Jets. A lot of people didn't want the Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers didn't want to be on there, and we

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<v Speaker 1>all kind of have our ways about Hard Knocks until

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden you're on there.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's give me your opinion on it.

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<v Speaker 3>So it is interesting, and there is a shift I

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<v Speaker 3>think from the lead up to it and then once

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<v Speaker 3>you're on it. I think the lead up is a

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<v Speaker 3>little scarier and bigger, and you know these big, bad

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<v Speaker 3>cameras are going to be in there. But then when

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<v Speaker 3>you're actually on it, you're so laser focused. And you

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<v Speaker 3>guys know this as former players. You're just trying to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you guys are trying to get the ball back,

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<v Speaker 3>we're trying to score points like that. Yeah, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>even think about it, and you say the same silly

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that you normally would. I think, are you miked up?

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<v Speaker 3>So it's most of the time like everybody who's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of mic or do you know, but in the game,

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<v Speaker 3>certain players, right like specifically generally the quarterback, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for this one, it's Scarett Wilson, it's Sauce Gardner, it's

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<v Speaker 3>Quinn Williams. They want, you know, the superstars, and then

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<v Speaker 3>they'll throw the mics on some of the guys competing

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<v Speaker 3>for jobs, and that'll be the you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>feel good story of the guy trying to make the

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<v Speaker 3>team and he could be a special teamer and injuries

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<v Speaker 3>could happen, you know, all the same drama that they

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<v Speaker 3>love to unfold. It inevitably unfolds in thirty two locker

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<v Speaker 3>rooms around the league. They just capture one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, I have been watching only because we were

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<v Speaker 3>on it before. They do such a great job of,

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<v Speaker 3>most importantly just making the players and the stories more

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<v Speaker 3>of who they are, right right. Like you know, people

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<v Speaker 3>think like, Okay, money changes you. No, I think it

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<v Speaker 3>just makes you more of who you are. If you're

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<v Speaker 3>charitable with one hundred doll you're gonna be charitable with

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<v Speaker 3>a million dollars, you know what I mean. So this

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<v Speaker 3>show should make you more of who you are. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're the raw, raw guy. If you're the breakdown

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<v Speaker 3>the team guy, you know what I mean, If that's

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<v Speaker 3>your role on the team, it's going to be even

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<v Speaker 3>sexier on this show. Well if you're not that guy

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<v Speaker 3>and you try to be that guy, oh dude, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like the worst. You know, like when somebody just tries

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<v Speaker 3>to break it down and you're just like, ooh, that

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<v Speaker 3>guy couldn't even motivate me to eat a sandwich, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, Like this is a free sandwich

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<v Speaker 3>at that So it's I'm happy for Aaron because I've

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<v Speaker 3>known him for a while. It's been a polarizing character

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<v Speaker 3>in the NFL soap opera that is every season, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and now people are starting to get a chance to

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<v Speaker 3>see him the way he is as a teammate behind

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<v Speaker 3>closed doors without you know, when you check all of

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<v Speaker 3>your own personal political agenda, baggage, all the stuff at

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<v Speaker 3>the door and you can just focus on football and

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<v Speaker 3>being a good teammate and working hard and trying to

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<v Speaker 3>win games. I mean, what else do you want? The

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<v Speaker 3>dude's unbelievable to camp last week, they yes, Decker was there.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a dude. The kid makes a cameo in

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<v Speaker 3>Hard Knocks and Braylan Edwards is just blocking my visual

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<v Speaker 3>the whole time. Dude, I'm you know this was this

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<v Speaker 3>was about me? It was it was funny. They were

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<v Speaker 3>doing the targets right yeah, yeah? Was this after or

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<v Speaker 3>doing this was during practice and they're walking over to

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<v Speaker 3>start scrimmaging with the Buccaneers and they're doing all these

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<v Speaker 3>targets and Zach Wilson might have hit one in like

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<v Speaker 3>all thirty of the throws from three quarterbacks, but in

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<v Speaker 3>the episode the night before, I'm like, dude, you guys

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't miss. So what's going on with the editing here?

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<v Speaker 1>What are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>So I gave him a hard time and then Braylan

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<v Speaker 3>blocked my visual on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there ever a moment that caught you off guard

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<v Speaker 1>when you did the hard Yes? So I did it

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<v Speaker 1>with Rex right one, yes, and he was already He's

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<v Speaker 1>like for the camera. Oh he was bill for it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I think that's so important

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. It was like Phil wants to get

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<v Speaker 1>a team. That's they want to show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they want Yes, you want to let's go get

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<v Speaker 3>some and ice cream exactly. And that was that was

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<v Speaker 3>very Rex just off the cuff and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as defensive guys, you'll appreciate this. As offensive guys, it

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<v Speaker 3>kind of freaked me out. But Rex was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't care if we play the game. I don't care

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<v Speaker 3>if we just fight in the parking lot, like, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>just figure it out. And I'm like, well, offense doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>work like that. Okay, that worked for half the team.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll go study a little bit. You guys go kick

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<v Speaker 3>everyone's ass. We'll be there to try and score.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But Rex was perfect for it, and I think the

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<v Speaker 3>guys on it are are shining the way they're supposed to,

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<v Speaker 3>and it just gives it really is for the fans,

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<v Speaker 3>and it gives them such insight on on what the

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<v Speaker 3>players are like. When you, you know, make fun of

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<v Speaker 3>other guys. The rookies have to do their rookie show.

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<v Speaker 3>Their rookie show was terrible this year. It was terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes twice. I mean one of the guys went up

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<v Speaker 3>and did the the eight mile b Rabbit thing and

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<v Speaker 3>that was fine, but I just I was, you know, unimpressed.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta do the coaches meeting. Yeah, that's like the

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<v Speaker 3>standard rookie show is right. You make fun of all

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<v Speaker 3>the coaches and maybe throw one or two players in there.

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<v Speaker 1>So they didn't do what we did. I did a

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<v Speaker 1>whole physio ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Under my shirt for Rex because this was before he

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<v Speaker 3>had the surgery, right right, and he was real big.

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<v Speaker 3>He was always snacking, so I had all these snacks

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<v Speaker 3>in the top of the phisio ball under my thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I put baby powder in my hair because he was

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<v Speaker 3>all great at you know, Oh dude, we had a

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<v Speaker 3>great team meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>People understand like that how much that brings teams together

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<v Speaker 1>when you have a good rookie show.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not in the ladder, you don't understand that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to tell that it does matter. Teams they

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<v Speaker 1>have great locker room.

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<v Speaker 3>There is something. Okay, you have a great locker room,

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<v Speaker 3>you have a great rookie show, and you generally have

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<v Speaker 3>a good chaplain and a good chapel service. Yes, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>am I right? The best teams?

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<v Speaker 2>I bet?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Yes, he does talk about your first those teams matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Those solid Our rookie show is legit. The rookies from

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<v Speaker 3>the year before would help the guys when they and

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<v Speaker 3>then here's kind of what we did. Check this out

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<v Speaker 3>might want to think about this. Here's some idea. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you give them a little material just to make it good,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know you want everybody to enjoy it. The

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<v Speaker 3>tightest locker rooms are the best teams. When it becomes

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<v Speaker 3>different than just a job, when you're not clocking in

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<v Speaker 3>and clocking out, you transcend football and become a family.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys know. That's when it's like, okay, we have

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity at least to make a run at this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love that at the rookie show, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to beat a dead horse, but like, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to give effort. Oh and the veterans are going to

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<v Speaker 1>sign off with your terrible singer. It's all about the

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<v Speaker 1>effort did you put in?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you try? It's the older brother, yeah, yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 3>a passage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know we all had to do it, and

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<v Speaker 1>so what kind of effort did you There's always that

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<v Speaker 1>one rookie that was like, I went to school to cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not jumping up the I'm not gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Sing like just like, come on, man, that's how you

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<v Speaker 1>gain the respect.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody pick on me. You're gonna get the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get it. You're definitely gonna get it. We

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<v Speaker 1>had we had a couple of guys like that. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that that locker room, that foundation is what I think

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<v Speaker 1>is what brings you together. Me and you, Carolina. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we had a great year, our good run. We're good teammates.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you had some good teammates. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of switch it. So two thousand, what was that?

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<v Speaker 1>I think twenty twelve I was I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the White House, did an internship with FEMA,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh my, I guess my boss for the day

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<v Speaker 1>or for the for the week, got me in, went

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<v Speaker 1>to the White House, mass saw some some really cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Situation room. Now I know you went back in twenty ten. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I got a T shirt on and you thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a dang you thought it was a steak.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta.

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<v Speaker 1>So deep break like talk to me about what he's

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<v Speaker 1>your plus one?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? How many buttons you got on that yeat?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's the Steve Hart.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a different time. We didn't have the euro

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<v Speaker 3>cut back then. Yeah, okay, so this is you guys

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<v Speaker 3>at this we get invited, This is at the State st.

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<v Speaker 1>A t Yes, Hillary Clinton State dinner, right, No, it

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<v Speaker 1>was Obamama, Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Mexican president was going to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying This is a totally different side story. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>even worry. Totally different side story. He's trying to reach.

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<v Speaker 1>He's reached, don't worry about it. That's an inside joke over.

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas is laughing back there because he knows this is

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<v Speaker 1>a reach.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna let that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he owes us. He's gonna lose a bet too.

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<v Speaker 2>He's lose a bit off that.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to see it in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Invited to the state dinner. Barack Obama, the President of Mexico,

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be there, and they're in the receiving line.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole deal. Well, I remember getting this invitation and

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<v Speaker 3>the Jets telling me about it in the PR office

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<v Speaker 3>and like there's a big deal. It's in the off season.

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<v Speaker 3>Worse you can make it. You know, they got a

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<v Speaker 3>private plane and all this stuff. I was like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 3>this is legit. So I called my brother and I

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<v Speaker 3>said my oldest brother Nick, who's an attorney, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, dude, we have a steak dinner at the

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<v Speaker 3>White House. And he goes what I said a steak dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>I get to go eat and like hang out at

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<v Speaker 3>the White House and he goes, did you just say

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<v Speaker 3>steak dinner? And I said yeah, they invited me to

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<v Speaker 3>a steak dinner and said, you idiot. I was like what.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, state like United States like State of the

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<v Speaker 3>Union stat. I was like, oh, okay, well either way,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure they have food.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, steak dinner. What are you gonna bring a

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<v Speaker 3>knife in a one sauce? God, You're done? You know.

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<v Speaker 3>He just give me a hard time. So he informs

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<v Speaker 3>me on exactly what it is we take. I invited

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<v Speaker 3>Brick because I knew he'd be all over that. He's

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<v Speaker 3>been on the podcast, right, Yes, yeah, he's awesome, so

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<v Speaker 3>and and so, you know, diplomatic. He was just so

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<v Speaker 3>well put together. And I was like, this is the

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<v Speaker 3>prolific like kind of hang out for me and my

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<v Speaker 3>man Brick. So we go. Dude, we're on the plane

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<v Speaker 3>and I left my shirt and I left my shirt

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the terminal to leave on this private

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<v Speaker 3>plane in the FBO right, how like an idiot? And

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<v Speaker 3>I have a T shirt on, I have everything else.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, well, I don't want to wrinkle it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll put it up. Boom, I'll take the jacket. I

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<v Speaker 3>just left it in the stall. So we're in the

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<v Speaker 3>air and I tell the airplane pilot, hey, we have

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<v Speaker 3>a problem. The wrong thing to tell the guy because

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<v Speaker 3>it was just about clothing, not like there's a problem

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<v Speaker 3>with the plane. He like went into freak out mode

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<v Speaker 3>for a second. We had to calm him down. Boom,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, hey, I'm missing a shirt. Whatever he calls

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<v Speaker 3>like ground control. They start calling around to men's warehouses

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<v Speaker 3>or like other places I could go. So we go

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<v Speaker 3>find a place I can get a shirt. I walked

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<v Speaker 3>into the store. It's a men's warehouse in DC close

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<v Speaker 3>to the White House, packed with people because it's freaking

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<v Speaker 3>prom for high school. So I'm like, I got like

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred bucks in my pocket. Hauller at the manager.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yo, dude, my name's Mark Sanchez. I'm with

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<v Speaker 3>the Jazz. I gotta go to the White House right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It is like an emergency. I left a suit, blah

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<v Speaker 3>blah blah. He's like, you're gonna have to get the

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<v Speaker 3>whole getting kaboodle deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all we got.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, all right, I'm trying on this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I ripped one of the jackets. It was horrible. It

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<v Speaker 3>was horrible. Just to get to those pictures was such

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<v Speaker 3>an adventure, and Brick was just like, dude, this is

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<v Speaker 3>my chance to meet Barack Obama. You're gonna blow it.

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<v Speaker 3>So uh, it was an adventure to say the least.

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<v Speaker 3>But we had a ball. And you know, he loves

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<v Speaker 3>the Bears. Man, Barrocco loves the Bears. He does get

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<v Speaker 3>him to I try to look. He is Aago guy.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't mess around. He said, no, I can't be

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<v Speaker 3>rooting for the jetson I'm a Bears guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, so who I heard Beyonce performed?

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<v Speaker 1>He had to stay dinner this. I don't know she

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<v Speaker 1>was married to jay Z at the time, either, was she.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know in ten eleven she was married.

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize so, but I don't know if they became

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<v Speaker 1>like the couple at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not, they are now. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that that concert just happened in like this

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<v Speaker 3>outdoor ten I mean, dude, the whole night was surreal.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm like thinking, like, oh, can I take

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<v Speaker 3>the silver we're with me, I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>then I'm gonna be on like the FBI's wanted. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what to do there, You just try and

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<v Speaker 3>act natural. And I felt like such a square.

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<v Speaker 1>But was this like the top of the like the

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<v Speaker 1>food chain at this point time in your life, Like

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<v Speaker 1>had you done anything even close to this? And then

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<v Speaker 1>how do you ever like measure up to this again?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm still trying, man, and it's been a failing effort.

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<v Speaker 3>So thanks for reminding me that it was. It was

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<v Speaker 3>pretty I mean that whole time with the Jets, especially

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<v Speaker 3>the first couple of years, were this incredible blur of

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<v Speaker 3>some failures but mostly successes, and like that, like almost

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<v Speaker 3>top of the mountaintop, trying to get to a super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 3>meeting people like that, meeting people out in public after

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<v Speaker 3>games with my family that we've been fans of. Yea,

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<v Speaker 3>you know freaking Leonardo DiCaprio. You see anybody else or

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<v Speaker 3>people when they start to know your name, yes, or

0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.520
<v Speaker 3>you're you see somebody and they're like, yo, see Shack

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<v Speaker 3>at like a pool party in Vegas. He's like such

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<v Speaker 3>a on the mike. I'm like, dude, are you kidding me,

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<v Speaker 3>shock Doug, like we made it, you know, like it's

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<v Speaker 3>just uh, it was a it was a really cool feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was no different so being the overall you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth overall pick in the in the draft was

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<v Speaker 1>a two thousand and nine, being the fifth overall pick,

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<v Speaker 1>and then going to those two AFC championships your first

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<v Speaker 1>two years. Like, what do you think your greatest NFL

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<v Speaker 1>accomplishment pofs.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great question. God, I think I think those

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<v Speaker 3>couple of those playoff games on the road were some

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<v Speaker 3>of my favorite. I remember I remember Thomas Jones almost

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<v Speaker 3>beating me up.

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<v Speaker 1>T Jones, Yes, Thomas q C.

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<v Speaker 3>He threatened to kick my ass because I tried to

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<v Speaker 3>throw like a little one step slam on the goal

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<v Speaker 3>line against the Bengals in the first round of the

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<v Speaker 3>playoffs in the wild card.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like a lookie run call and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do your own thing, and it was just.

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<v Speaker 3>A walk in touchdown for we scored on the next play.

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<v Speaker 3>But he grabbed me by the face mask and he said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, with much stronger language, but if you ever

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<v Speaker 3>do that again, I'm gonna kick your ass in front

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<v Speaker 3>of everybody. Yeah, it's like, yes, sir. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>let's just hand this off. The San Diego game we

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<v Speaker 3>played against the Chargers. Gosh, I think I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 3>I played for free that game because I bought like

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred plus tickets. Oh and then after the game,

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<v Speaker 3>Thomas Jones got mad at me again because I got

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<v Speaker 3>to say hi to all my family members. Thomas. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's he can act. He's like and he's

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<v Speaker 3>really funny, but he's just quiet and doesn't like he's

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<v Speaker 3>not as outgoing, you know, he's not as I don't know,

0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.040
<v Speaker 3>he's not as bubbly as love people. You always got

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<v Speaker 3>this tough exterior. Well, when he wants to joke with you,

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<v Speaker 3>he's funny and so I'm holding up the bus and

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<v Speaker 3>so he cause people are like honking the horn, like dude,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go. We got to fly back home. We got

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<v Speaker 3>a game next with like all right onto the next

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and I'm still like, wow, this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you Aunt Linda, you know, saying hello to everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>and he goes, man, get your rookie ass on the bus.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care about all your skater friends for.

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<v Speaker 1>The sick game, bro, just.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole bus is just laughing at me. So it was,

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<v Speaker 3>it was those are great times with those playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to be really cool being a rookie quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>on that type of team, big veteran presence, great defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>all these big personalities, including your coach, and you're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the the cog that's kind of making it go.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh what was it like being a rookie in that moment?

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I listened to a couple of your other podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>things you were talking about, and you got vets like

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<v Speaker 1>Alfanka didn't even talk to.

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<v Speaker 3>You, right, dude until the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you like, he didn't even talk to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even He just didn't talk to rookies.

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<v Speaker 2>And he would talk to somebody else to talk to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, hey, let's switch up the stats down Al wants this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we did.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows I'm here right ted Washington to this second.

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<v Speaker 3>I do something. Yeah, that's I mean, it's a vet thing.

0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.600
<v Speaker 3>You gotta you gotta earn the respect whatever that means.

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<v Speaker 3>That's old school vet though it is very you won't

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<v Speaker 3>see that today, like you lose over time.

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<v Speaker 1>Rubin Ruben did that? He tell ay, go tell that rookie.

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<v Speaker 1>I want so one exact Hey, rook So, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>you don't you don't see that. That's I'm not gonna

0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:21.600
<v Speaker 1>say that's when the NFL was fun. But that was

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<v Speaker 1>just a different time, a different times. It's a different time,

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<v Speaker 1>a different a different hazing. Well, I think it's so

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<v Speaker 1>different also because uh and you covered college. We'll probably

0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:31.960
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna dive into that a little bit too. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, a lot of more players nowadays. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't grow up knowing each other, right, we didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>each other and so when you played a different color jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>you were just the enemy. That's the only way I

0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.600
<v Speaker 1>knew you was just an enemy versus now everybody's recruited

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<v Speaker 1>the same. Everybody's sure social media, so like the season

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<v Speaker 1>to reach out to they kind of know each other.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a little bit different, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting maybe you had a maybe it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>that with all the Southern California quarterbacks that all play

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<v Speaker 1>find their wayl at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you see each other growing up. You see

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<v Speaker 3>the lineage when it started with really like I mean

0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Marinovitch way back, but like Carson, Carson Palmer, Matt Liner,

0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.840
<v Speaker 3>and then John David Booty ended up coming in from

0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Louisiana played two years and then I got to play.

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<v Speaker 3>But then Barkley, Cody Kestler, like that Southern California group

0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.800
<v Speaker 3>of guys, and so you look up to all those guys,

0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:29.200
<v Speaker 3>darnold all of them, and it's important. It means something

0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:33.000
<v Speaker 3>that in your community, in your region, that you know

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<v Speaker 3>you're the guy and they're comparing you to the guys

0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:38.240
<v Speaker 3>who've come before you. Yeah, warned that Cardinal and Gold, Like,

0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:40.720
<v Speaker 3>that's a big deal running down in the coliseum. That's

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<v Speaker 3>a historic spot with you know, popes and the best

0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:49.800
<v Speaker 3>in rock and roll, in music, Olympics, USC football, like

0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:54.280
<v Speaker 3>there's some Super Bowls, Like there's some serious heritage and

0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:58.760
<v Speaker 3>tradition with the coliseum. So that there was always something like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>you're just proud to be a part of it, and

0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:02.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to let anybody down, you know, there

0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:05.520
<v Speaker 3>was there was that feeling like I got a responsibility here,

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<v Speaker 3>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Fact, go ahead.

0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:12.960
<v Speaker 1>My wife Jackie, her grandfather was a usc UH student

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<v Speaker 1>body president when he went there.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go back in. I don't know what year. I

0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.159
<v Speaker 2>don't know what year it was, but it was he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a big time of lump, like goes to every game.

0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:26.720
<v Speaker 1>When y'all play Notre Dame, y'all got a game, he

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<v Speaker 1>is there, Like when I tell you, spends millions of

0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:35.760
<v Speaker 1>dollars on USC over the years. He loves USC so

0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:39.480
<v Speaker 1>much he named his son. His grandson's name is Troy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how much he loves you. As I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>the way to liven Hey. I mean you guys all

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<v Speaker 1>in yea all that's the only way.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm a guy from small country town, was never

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<v Speaker 1>really in the spotlight until really I got to like

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<v Speaker 1>the league.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you in Alabama, but you're.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy high school spotlight, college spotlight, NFL spotlight, rookie spotlight.

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<v Speaker 1>Even now you're kind of somewhat stolen it in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>What is what has that taught you over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's a white hot spotlight, especially when

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:20.760
<v Speaker 3>you get somewhere like the Jets. I think your unique

0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:24.960
<v Speaker 3>upbringing is not exploited but brought to the forefront, like

0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 3>being a Mexican American, Hispanic American. That's been huge for

0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:32.160
<v Speaker 3>me and that kind of support from a very loyal

0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:35.119
<v Speaker 3>fan base that I mean, they don't care whether you well, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Look great different, right, Like that's the thing, right, that's

0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:39.920
<v Speaker 1>another selling point.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark was going to New York.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm trying. Yeah, So you know, it's it just

0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.679
<v Speaker 3>becomes what you sign up for and you always remember that, right.

0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:55.680
<v Speaker 3>And I think one of the biggest lessons is, you know,

0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:59.119
<v Speaker 3>you can't don't ever complain about the spotlight when that

0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.800
<v Speaker 3>same spotlight has given you or afforded you opportunities that

0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:05.320
<v Speaker 3>you otherwise wouldn't have, whether it's you know, eating at

0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:08.400
<v Speaker 3>specific restaurants or doing these cool experiences, or being able

0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.040
<v Speaker 3>to go to the White House or whatever that is.

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<v Speaker 3>If I was playing for some other team, maybe that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't happen if it's not New York, you know, and

0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:18.480
<v Speaker 3>if you're not the quarterback, maybe that doesn't happen to

0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:22.879
<v Speaker 3>you in that specific you know example. So you know,

0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.240
<v Speaker 3>you can't complain about it if you get something from

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<v Speaker 3>it and do your best to you know, try and

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<v Speaker 3>remain humble. And the thing I've found that brought me

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of joy when you're in those scenarios of

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<v Speaker 3>being the guy or in the spotlight, is when you

0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:40.760
<v Speaker 3>bring your teammates or your family, right, like you get

0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:43.320
<v Speaker 3>you get hooked up for Broadway tickets and you get

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<v Speaker 3>to go to the premieres, or you get to go

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:47.040
<v Speaker 3>to the premiers of all these cool movies that you

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<v Speaker 3>know in New York City. Well, yeah, I'd love to go,

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:52.119
<v Speaker 3>and I understand you only have two tickets, but I

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:53.440
<v Speaker 3>got to bring at least two or three of the

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:56.000
<v Speaker 3>old linemen and their wives. So yeah, if we're coming,

0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.119
<v Speaker 3>we're coming as a group, but you know whatever, And

0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:00.879
<v Speaker 3>they'd always come back and say, yeah, okay, you're all coming.

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 3>So the guys would walk the red carpet with their

0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:05.879
<v Speaker 3>wives and then you know, on the other end, it

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.240
<v Speaker 3>gives you a free night out with the boys later on. Yeah,

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:09.920
<v Speaker 3>the wife they were happy they got to see a

0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:12.119
<v Speaker 3>Bronx show, you know, and then the guys can hang

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.439
<v Speaker 3>one night. So but I think it's I think it's

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:16.760
<v Speaker 3>important to bring the people either that helped you get

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.200
<v Speaker 3>there along with you, or you know, the people you're

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 3>sharing that spotlight with, to make sure you deflect some

0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 3>of it and make sure they get some love to.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you've always come off. Marc is one of

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:27.440
<v Speaker 1>those guys, is like like you said, you are in

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the spotlight. You every You've been in every large market

0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.200
<v Speaker 1>that's possible, like you've grown up in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. This is like when I started bouncing around.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Chicago, yeah, d C. All huge market and I

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:46.240
<v Speaker 1>just built it like like where's all the people? Where

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<v Speaker 1>the people at? And I played and I'm the only

0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 1>one up here that played in small markets like you

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 1>played in Chicago, huge market.

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<v Speaker 3>That's huge.

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:54.359
<v Speaker 1>But I didn't have the spotlight like that.

0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:57.400
<v Speaker 3>I know you're pretty big.

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<v Speaker 1>With all that being said, though, yeah, because you can

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 1>kind did a lot for the game people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, and every time I might punch the ball out,

0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:08.400
<v Speaker 2>they mentioned your name very much.

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 1>They mentioned your name all the time. So, uh, the

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 1>way you handled all that though, your humility, the ability

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 1>to be able to you know, take the spotlight and

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 1>then push it out on everybody else. I think that's

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 1>a talent and a lot of quarterbacks maybe they don't

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 1>understand that, or just people in general, what it's like

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:28.360
<v Speaker 1>to be, you know, with all the pressure that comes

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>with being the quarterback, the responsibility as well.

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh it's uh, it's a lot of pressure. But that's

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 3>once again, like you sign up from that or for

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 3>that from the jump, the good, the bad, the ugly,

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:44.440
<v Speaker 3>everything in between, and looking back, it's like, you know,

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 3>what would I change? What would I try and do different?

0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:48.720
<v Speaker 3>How have I grown from all this stuff? I think

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 3>one of the biggest things is I just didn't really

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 3>face true adversity publicly like that until I got to

0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 3>the NFL. Right because I'm I'm getting good grades in school,

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm homecoming king, you know, I got a scholarship to USC.

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be the quarterback at SC. I play

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 3>at SC, we win the Rose Bowl, I'm an MVP.

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Boom.

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Now you're in the NFL, and it's just like, oh man,

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.880
<v Speaker 3>this is just awesome. Yeah, well, you know, go win

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 3>win eight games and missed the playoffs in New York

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 3>and then you're like, whoa, this isn't the real world. Wow, yeah,

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 3>what happened whereever he go? How did what happened to

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:25.399
<v Speaker 3>all the fun stuff? Nobody's smiling anymore. People are pissed,

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, and you learn a lot about life and

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 3>people and a little bit of adversity, and then you

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 3>have to adjust. Okay, well now what you know? And

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 3>so those are now that I'm a dad, I got

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 3>a boy who's going to be seven, Those are like

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:43.880
<v Speaker 3>valuable lessons And I'm trying to import on him about dude,

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna have so many advantages growing up, you know.

0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:48.399
<v Speaker 3>And we used to say this in travel basketball. But

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.640
<v Speaker 3>my dad's like, ah, we're thinking about adding this kid

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:55.160
<v Speaker 3>to the team. But he's a three car garage kid,

0:25:56.840 --> 0:26:00.639
<v Speaker 3>meaning like, is he really gonna grind? Yeah, a scrap

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:02.680
<v Speaker 3>for a loose ball? Is he gonna dive? Is he

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:04.680
<v Speaker 3>like you know, does he get a cramp and come

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 3>out like and it was a thing, and so that

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 3>is you know, now that I know some of the

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 3>drawbacks of all those things going your way from the

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:19.640
<v Speaker 3>jump and becoming this star in New York or whatever. Well, okay,

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:22.199
<v Speaker 3>what are my fears for the next one coming up?

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:22.399
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 3>Like for my son, I'm like, oh, shoot, dude, we

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 3>wake up and we're looking at the ocean. Come on, dog,

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 3>this is bad. We need to go get an apartment

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 3>like somewhere else.

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 2>How's he going grind?

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Like, how do I teach him? Like this stuff doesn't

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 3>just happen? Like me and Grandpa and your uncles were

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:40.640
<v Speaker 3>outside all the time throwing the football fielding ground balls,

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 3>shooting layups. I mean we went to Chargers camp the

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 3>other day. I almost had this crazy flashback because I

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 3>remember at Coasta Mesa High school where they practice, they

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 3>did their joint practice or whatever. At Jack Hammett whatever,

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:55.440
<v Speaker 3>well that gym there, Dude. I almost had like a

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 3>full on flashback because I remember my dad was gone.

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 3>He was doing something as a firefighter. My brother took

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:03.240
<v Speaker 3>me to that basketball tournament in that gym in the

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.360
<v Speaker 3>parking lot next to where they're practicing, so I see

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 3>the mustangs on the wall whatever, and I was like,

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, I remember this place, dude. My brother

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 3>kept me after the game because I missed two breakaway

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 3>layups in our game and we lost by like a

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 3>point or something. Dude. We went up and down the

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 3>court and he would just launch the ball all the

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 3>way down so I could run by myself. After the

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 3>gym had cleared out for like two hours, I must

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 3>have shot three hundred freaking breakaway layups and I was gassed.

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 3>But it was like just a reminder of like, dang, grin,

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.359
<v Speaker 3>that's where it is. That's that's where it really starts.

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 3>That's where that's who you really are. If you commit

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 3>to it and then the rest you know, you do

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 3>your best.

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a short break and we'll be

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 2>back in a minute. All right, tell me about this.

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:46.719
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.640
<v Speaker 1>So number one, when did you know it was time

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>to retire? And number two, let's talk about that transition afterwards.

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 1>You know you really didn't take any time off. Yeah,

0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you went straight into doing TV and now you're doing

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the broadcasting And let's let's kind of dive it out

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 1>because we worked with some of the same people.

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, on the broadcasting side.

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 3>So I think after Washington it was pretty hectic. Things

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 3>were getting hectic at home my son and you know,

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 3>my son's mom and I co parent him. So if

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be gone, uh, you know most of

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 3>the year, like when am I going to see him?

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 3>What does this next chapter of life look like? And

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 3>it was It was just the right time. So, yeah,

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 3>am I going to try and grind this out one

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 3>more year with all this other stuff on my mind?

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm doing a disservice to the team I'm trying

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 3>to make and maybe to myself. Let's roll, let's let's

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 3>pack up and figure this thing out. This next chapter.

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 3>I got a lot of stuff too, so you were ready.

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I was.

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I was ready.

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 3>I knew I was really going to miss it, but

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 3>I was ready, and I think at any point I

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 3>was really going to miss it, so I don't think

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 3>anything would have changed there. And then it was like, okay,

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 3>now what I can't just be in my opinion, I

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 3>didn't feel comble with nothing to do for my son

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 3>to see, you know what I mean, like I didn't

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 3>want him to see it at that time, he was

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 3>like three years old, but I didn't want him to see.

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, my dad used to play football. He made

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of money. And now we just kind of

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 3>hang out like I don't know, and there's nothing wrong

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 3>with that. Is that is totally fine. It just was like,

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, maybe I don't have to put on a

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 3>suit and tie every day, but i'd like to be

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 3>doing something. I'd like him see me going to work,

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 3>whether it was consulting or real estate or something. And

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't really be coaching, although I'd love to coach.

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 3>I was like, that's just going to go way too far,

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.719
<v Speaker 3>and I know, like I'll go full send on coaching

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 3>and then yeah, exactly, so I'm like I might as

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 3>well try and play again. Those are two of the

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 3>same things. So I was like, all right, let's try

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 3>this broadcasting boot camp. Tracy Peerlman, Jerry Maddalon, a lot

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 3>of people help get that set up, and that was

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 3>really eye opening for me on what some opportunities could be.

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 3>And so we go through the broadcasting boot camp, which

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 3>I highly encourage players. I wish I had done it

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 3>my third year in the league, you know, like that

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 3>really breaks my heart that I didn't do that, and

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 3>I hope the players if you have any interest in

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 3>any of those boot camps, like public Service Announcement, I

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 3>highly recommend going to one of those. It's free, they

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 3>hook up your travel, You learn so much, you meet

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 3>all the people you're gonna meet anyway that are important

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 3>to know for your next endeavor if you choose that forum.

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 3>So important, but they basically tape everything that you do there.

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 3>They send out all your essentially like your demos. And

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 3>and then we got calls from ESPN. I had to

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 3>go audition for them, and ABC jumped in that role

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 3>with Jonathan Vilma. The last time I had talked to

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Jonathan Vilma was my rookie year. We played you Guys

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Game four in New Orleans.

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I get picked off by House. It gets better because

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 1>he got the pedal, dude.

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 3>And finally so Sharp's too far ahead or he's behind me,

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 3>and I'm trying to like create a pile. You're taught

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 3>just create a pile, right, So I kind of just

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:11.719
<v Speaker 3>dive near Vilma.

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 2>He chopped.

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 3>In hindsight, it's a little bit too violent. It should

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 3>have been more of like a tuck and roll, and

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 3>it was a little more like direct at Vilma. You know,

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 3>he's horizontal, he's pissed whatever. And then I get fined.

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 3>And then the next time I talked to him was

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 3>to call him and tell him, Hey, I got the job.

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting next to you on the desk at College

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 3>Football ABC. So I was like, bro, I'm sorry, should

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 3>we just talk about this now? He's like, hell, yeah,

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna talk about it. So Vilma, I thought he

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.479
<v Speaker 3>was gonna whoop my ass the first day in the studio.

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 3>He didn't, thankfully, and he's been a great dude to

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 3>me and just helped me a ton with just like

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 3>in football, like you you look at the older guys

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 3>on the team, if that's on the team, they're like

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 3>your big brothers. It's the same thing in television media whatever.

0:31:56.800 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 3>Like Kevin M. Gandhi and Jonathan Vilma were so by

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 3>the end of my time there at sc or at

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 3>at Sports Center or ESPN for two years, I was

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 3>staying in the Gandhi's house in the basement. And his

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 3>kids are like crazy Philly fans just like him. So

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 3>all they wanted to talk about is, uh, Brent seleck

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 3>zach Ertz, Leashan McCoy, you know, tell me about playing

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 3>with this guy, tell me about playing this guy. So

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 3>we'd be playing like knee football and knee basketball in

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 3>the basement with his little kids. And that's how close

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 3>we became. Same thing we mentioned with football, when a

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 3>broadcast or a crew becomes more than just a job

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 3>and it's like your family. We had some great shows

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 3>with the IT.

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Shows on TV because I I leaned on Vilma so

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>much when I was first starting to get into it.

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 1>He's just he's honest. He's brutally honest. Sometimes he's not

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>that nice of a person. He's a great guy, but

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>he's but you want his opinion. Yeah, you respect people

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>say yeah, hey, you're doing great, You're doing great, and

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>you don't get honest feet that difference between but that's

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the difference between you or us as athletes and professionals.

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>When you make it to the highest level.

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 3>You're extracting critique.

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>One criticism, and I think that's what makes us who

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>we are as people. Right when you go to the

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>real world and a regular I guess, a regular job,

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>you want people just to tell you how good you are,

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 1>like a yes man or yes woman or whatever.

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Like it just doesn't make.

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Dude, you can't say that, yes, we got to get better.

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to grow. I'm a plus minus guy. I'm

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>everything in my life and I can move on everything

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I want just plus minu. So I guess I am.

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I try to do the boot camp. I tried it

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>twice and they like was like, no, we're not We're

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>not taking your application. I don't know if my my home's.

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 3>Answer.

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 2>I was just like I did the broadcast boot camp.

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a big thumbs up, two thumbs twice,

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, no, maybe I didn't beg enough

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 1>because you said that I did. I did, application was

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>late and then I just wrote like a really nice

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>little personal thing at the end.

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 2>They let me in last one in and they let me.

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 2>They said it was full.

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Then I wrote another followback email and it worked out anyways,

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>and then next you know, I'm doing what I'm doing now.

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 1>And uh, it's it's funny though, Mark, Cuz because you

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 1>went right into it. Yeah, Peanut went right into it.

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Me, I took a whole year off.

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 1>I took three hundred and sixty five days and said

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to do anything, just really decompress and

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>then I figure out, trust me, what I want to do.

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:33.720
<v Speaker 2>My situation was different.

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what I mean.

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>And you got your job pretty quick though, right They

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 1>offered you like right away.

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 3>Well I did have to go interview or audition, yes,

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 3>at ESPN. But that's kind of why it happened so fast,

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 3>right because of the demos that went out from boot camp.

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.280
<v Speaker 3>It was like, okay, you have a couple of different

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 3>options here. You can do USC radio, you can do

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:55.359
<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah. So I was like, oh, shoot, okay,

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 3>we're starting like this fall then this.

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Is this is real, okay, And I don't think everybody

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>understand it's not just like, oh you're good, you get

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>to get hired like you can be good and not

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>get a hired.

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 2>It's all about hiring cycles.

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>It's timing. It's it's just like playing Tom Brady. Oh

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>we're signing him.

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.879
<v Speaker 3>And that and those names, those on field accolades will

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 3>get you in the door. But if you don't study,

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 3>you're not keeping current with the game, if you're not

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.279
<v Speaker 3>talking to coaches and players and all that and you know,

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 3>fine tuning your skills, you get passed by, right like

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 3>the next new sexy guy. Who's hey, man, this guy.

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, when I retired, I literally did the same.

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Literally, it happened just like you had a had a

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>media agent with CIA and well, I'm thinking about it maybe,

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and then I retired and then I was here interviewing

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>for Fox Sports, and I did the interview and was like.

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, I guess I'm doing this.

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>And then two weeks later it's like, yeah, they want you,

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>they want you to do and I was a choice,

0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>damn okay, this is And that was how I got

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>into doing that.

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, at that point, you can't be like, all right,

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:03.399
<v Speaker 3>give me one year.

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:04.399
<v Speaker 2>No you can't.

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Mine was just kind of he's totally different than

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody else out there. It was the six seven six rings.

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>They got him out here in the walls at the

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>NFL studios. Have you seen Tom Brady on the wall.

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 3>He looks like a Game of Thrones, like a yes,

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:22.880
<v Speaker 3>iron man see it.

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I mean, he was in Tampa Bay though,

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 1>That's my only thing. I mean that he wanted to see.

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 3>The most. It's recency biased. You know what have you

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 3>done for me lately?

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:35.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm with that. I can I can respect that. I

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:37.879
<v Speaker 2>can respect that. I just I just was thrown off.

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I was listening to you talking about Kevin Na Gandhi too,

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and maybe you give everybody else some advice that want

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to get into the broadcasting or the analysts work. And

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:48.760
<v Speaker 1>you said, the thing that really helped you with the Gandhi,

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:50.320
<v Speaker 1>how he just took you on his wing, was that,

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, He's like, look, don't focus on anything else.

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 1>You just deliver what you know, the knowledge that you

0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>know being a quarterback, the eyes in which you see

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the football game, the game through is what we want

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 1>to see and be able to break that down for

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>people's like I'm just going to ask you football questions.

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and you just give me a football answers that's it, yeah,

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 3>and like just stay in that lane, funny, and you

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 3>will shine in this business. And it's so true. And

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 3>then along the way you're gonna learn different skills and

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 3>they seem kind of silly, but like, how long is

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:22.400
<v Speaker 3>a thirty second answer?

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I agree?

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.240
<v Speaker 3>How long is a minute? How long is a minute

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:26.959
<v Speaker 3>and a half? How long is a five minute debate

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 3>with four panelists three panelists, Like, so until you're in

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:33.240
<v Speaker 3>those situations, you're not going to know. But the biggest

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 3>thing to try and understand early is like this economy

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:39.720
<v Speaker 3>of words. How can you say you know without talking

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 3>over people? And if you drop a little terminology, be

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 3>ready to explain it quickly, like how can you get

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 3>your message across and articulate your point? And Kevin was

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:55.280
<v Speaker 3>so good with that because during the breaks sometimes we'd

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 3>be doing rap shows, so basically we're talking over highlights yep,

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 3>and you know, oh, I could see like whoa, the

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 3>left tackles way or bam that that running back has

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:06.839
<v Speaker 3>to block that guy or whatever. He goes great, I'm

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 3>coming to you. You go with this film, good with

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 3>this one, bam. And so he would set us up

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 3>like a point guard all the time with like just

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 3>a nasty pass boom we're.

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>In exactly, yeah, and could not miss.

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Your brother helped you out, mother helped you out exactly.

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 3>So he was he was great. But I mean the

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:29.320
<v Speaker 3>sooner you get those reps and that's really what it

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 3>comes down to.

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:33.399
<v Speaker 1>We that's what you learn at the local Well, that's

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.320
<v Speaker 1>what you learned at broadcast boots, dude, Like, that's what

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you learn. It's so I want to hear. Just give

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:43.839
<v Speaker 1>me a quick thirty second story on something you did

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>at the broadcast bout camp where you just trash or

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 1>no or not. Have you ever just fill flat on

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>your face live TV? Yeah, I mean give me give

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>me one of them stories as a player.

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Second that as a player, as a as an analyst.

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Be in there. Let's see as an analyst.

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Golly, it is something you were just like, man, that's

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 1>live TV. I totally messed that up. I've been there,

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 1>oh a million, I mean, oh my god, a million

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 1>times where you just kind of blank. I've watched my

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 1>prior broadcast before and you're kind of like your point

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 1>just kind of it's like dangling thing and you're I'm like,

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 1>who are you talking? And sometimes I find myself saying

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. I hear my dad saying to me,

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, like like we're watching in warm ups or

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:36.800
<v Speaker 1>something like that, and I'm glad it didn't make the broadcast.

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 1>But like you see guys throwing the ball and it's

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>like routes on air. They're basically playing catch, and you

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 1>see him like drop three in a row or miss

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>three in a row. You're just like, what do we

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 1>call this game? Catch or chase? What are we doing here? Yeah?

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, so I'll say stuff like that or you know,

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:51.240
<v Speaker 3>my dad.

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 2>You didn't even know you were listening to.

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:55.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, and it was so weird. But he

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 3>would say, you know, he dropped him like a bad habit,

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 3>or he dropped him like a that transmission, or you know,

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 3>he just have these weird sayings. And I've set him

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 3>on air before and I immediately like hit the talkback

0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 3>button to mute myself and I'm like, you idiot, and

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:12.800
<v Speaker 3>my producers like, I love it. I love it. You

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 3>sound like you're seventy years old. I'm like, great, thanks,

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to remember. I talked about Kirk Cousins one time,

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 3>and similar to Aaron Rodgers I think this Quarterback show

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 3>that he's been on has really helped his BRANDI.

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because everybody thinks he's beyond boring, yes, and he's not.

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 3>He's like pretty funny and interesting dude, but he's he's

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 3>super nerdy owns. Yeah, but it's him, But it's him,

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 3>it's him. And then on the field, he's like a

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 3>stone cold killer dog, like he wants to win just

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 3>like everybody else, if not more. Well, I made a

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 3>comment because he got all out pressure. They had a

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.479
<v Speaker 3>little tight end, shallow cross and he flips it across

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 3>his body all the way to the opposite sideline, gets

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 3>his completion, first down, crucial first down, and they end

0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 3>up kicking a field goal to win against Seattle. A

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 3>couple of years ago in Minnesota. One of my games

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 3>for for Minnesota on Fox, Well, I said, listen, say

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 3>what you want about Kirk Cousins. He might call his

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 3>pants trousers. He might wear those said trousers up to

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 3>his navel. I don't care. He's a stone cold killer.

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 3>And those are the kind of third down plays against

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 3>pressure in the red zone you have to execute if

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 3>you're going to fill at a defense. And that's what

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 3>he just did and that was like one of my

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:31.239
<v Speaker 3>favorite things that you gotta be cool with Kirk, Like

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:33.279
<v Speaker 3>you can't pay him out to be a nerd. I'm like, guy,

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 3>he is, he is a nerd.

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 2>He is like that.

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>It's funny like that because like players recognize it, right,

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 1>we know. And it's the same way with like Russell Wilson.

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>You never had anybody say how great or how cool

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 1>he is.

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 2>He's a great player, great player. He's so cool.

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 1>He's he comes across to every other player. We're like, dude,

0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean that guy, he's that guy he is.

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:00.720
<v Speaker 2>It's okay, you like everybody.

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 1>That's the best thing about the locker room is like

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>nobody really wants you to be anybody but yourself, but

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:06.760
<v Speaker 1>be yourself.

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 3>And it's open game.

0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Everything's fair. Yeah, it's like everything fair.

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Every there's yeah everything.

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I was going to tell some stories, but I think

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 1>we'll do that off family.

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I won't stop crying, you know. I cried as soon

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:26.359
<v Speaker 1>as I laught having a good podcast. Every every time,

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:30.400
<v Speaker 1>every time I cry, like crist.

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:32.359
<v Speaker 3>It's the thing.

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 2>So this is what this is our second year doing

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:38.880
<v Speaker 2>the show. I think we're heading like we're rolling.

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 1>In, ascending into our second years, and our goal is

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 1>to get this thing be national. We're trying to kill

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>it right now. We're trying to you know, wear our

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 1>trousers up to our navels or whatever. They focus and

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>we're just super laser focused. You've been in the broadcast business.

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>What are some of your goals as a broadcaster? How

0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 1>far are you trying to go? Where are you trying

0:42:58.719 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 1>to take this?

0:42:59.520 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 2>You're trying to.

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 3>Emmy's Tony's listen. I think that stuff would happen on

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 3>its own. I think these first two years have been

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 3>a great foundation for me. This is a third year,

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 3>contract year, you know, so contract year. Yeah, yeah, we go, so,

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:20.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, I feel like I'm really coming into my own.

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.839
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I was my first year. I felt

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 3>like I was treading water a little bit, like any

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 3>rookie at anything.

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:30.799
<v Speaker 3>And the next year, which was this past year, once

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.879
<v Speaker 3>Kevin Coogler and I my partner, and Laura Oakman, who

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 3>both of them I love to death. They we were

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 3>in London and we call this awesome game the first round,

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.320
<v Speaker 3>and we get to stay for like sixteen days in

0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 3>London and do the second game because Fox took those

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:49.799
<v Speaker 3>games last year, both really good games. One of them

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 3>was a Saints and it was we finally like clicked,

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 3>me and keV. At least I felt it totally click.

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 3>And keV was a little tight before because this was

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 3>to be the biggest broadcast he'd ever been on. I

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 3>was definitely nervous, but I've also walked out on the

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:06.720
<v Speaker 3>field in the Coliseum and the Rose Bowl and Anti

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 3>Championship game. I'm like, dude, spotlight, Yeah, I'm scared, but

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 3>this is gonna be awesome because somebody's getting their ask

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 3>kicked in it amy. You know, let's roll, you know,

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 3>you just get into that mode of whatever, right, And

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 3>so I start massaging Kevin's shoulders like I'm his cut

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 3>man in boxing. I'm like, let's go champ. We read

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:25.840
<v Speaker 3>a champ. We don't feed it to him today, you know.

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 3>And I'm just messing with him and trying to loosen

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.319
<v Speaker 3>him up. And he has this awesome call and after

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 3>the game, I just gave him a huge hug. I'm like, dude,

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 3>you freaking nailed it. You freaking nailed it. I knew

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 3>you were super nervous, but you nail this dog. We

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:39.480
<v Speaker 3>got this like, let's roll. We're not looking back anymore.

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:41.840
<v Speaker 3>We've kind of hit our stride here, let's go. And

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 3>so ever since then, which was about October of the

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 3>last season, I felt like we're on this great trajectory together.

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Now after this year, who knows what's gonna happen, but

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 3>it just feels like, hey, let's just keep stacking them,

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:56.400
<v Speaker 3>just keep adding another one to the can. As soon

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 3>as we put in the can after the game, I

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 3>want a fist bump. We do our quick rap up,

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 3>and then like boom, let's get onto the next week.

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Let's do it again. I want to be, you know,

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 3>get better each time. Tell me when I'm off, I'll

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 3>tell you when you're off. And so we have such

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:11.239
<v Speaker 3>a good rapport now it's like, let's see how far

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 3>we can take it. You know, I'll go as long

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 3>as they do, you know, as long as they'll let

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 3>me hang around. I'm ready.

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I love that.

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I love that attitude. The podcast that you do with

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Nick Mangle, I love it. First of all, the name

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sold in exchange.

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 3>The name is important. Who came up with the name, Yeah,

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 3>I think it was me. That was somebody at the Jets.

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 3>I think it was Matt Sikoff beautiful doun.

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>It's the most important thing element of the game that

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:35.799
<v Speaker 1>nobody talks about.

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Centaert to quarterback extreme.

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean it starts the whole play. Nothing happens till

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 3>the quarterback says go and the center's got to give

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 3>a great sound.

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, doesn't his sister play center? No, No, she's

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:49.240
<v Speaker 1>a weightlifter, she's Olympian.

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 2>She was like sports.

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I knew, I knew she played sports strong as hell. Yeah, sorry, man,

0:45:57.400 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 1>just throw it out.

0:45:57.920 --> 0:45:59.439
<v Speaker 2>There, bro. So it may be the stick.

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>It's over the same thing with the Hillary, the same

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:03.280
<v Speaker 1>thing with the Hillary comment earlier.

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 2>It's just like.

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:07.879
<v Speaker 3>Now starting.

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 2>Pen tillman, throw it out there.

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Just whatever, let's try it has has that element up

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 1>your game and other parts? Yeah, I think of your

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 1>game like, what is a podcast? How does that help

0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:21.359
<v Speaker 1>elevate your game?

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:23.879
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting. So you have so much time to really

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 3>expand and tell these stories on podcasts, and that's one

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 3>of the things you learn at broadcasting boot camp. But

0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:33.800
<v Speaker 3>story sell people want to hear the stories. You know,

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:37.239
<v Speaker 3>we're going up to do Gino Smith his first game.

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's gonna be awesome.

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:41.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how about his rams at Gino? But it's like, Okay,

0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Geno was the comeback player of the Okay, why tell

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 3>me why. Everybody's going to say he's the comeback player

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 3>of the year, but why So that's been like my

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:50.320
<v Speaker 3>off season project a little bit. As soon as we

0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:52.439
<v Speaker 3>got this game is okay, I need to go find

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 3>some specific plays of why and where I've seen him

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 3>improve whatever well with with Nick on that show. That's

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 3>what it becomes. You try and like fine tune your

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:05.880
<v Speaker 3>skills for that forum and one of the other you know, uh,

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 3>we're giving away all the broadcasting boot camp secrets, but

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:12.359
<v Speaker 3>understanding the forum, who's the audience, where are you, what's

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 3>the setting, like who are you, who are you with?

0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 3>And then who's watching, who's listening? Are they watching it all?

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:20.400
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? And so those kind of

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 3>things help me stay sharp for when I do studio

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 3>with Fox or call a game, because that's very, very different.

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:29.759
<v Speaker 3>When you go do speak for yourself or speak now

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:33.399
<v Speaker 3>at Fox with Emmanuel Otto, that's different than sitting down

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.759
<v Speaker 3>with Colin Coward and just a totally different show, a

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:39.399
<v Speaker 3>totally different audience, and so you got to be ready

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 3>to go, Like, I've never been as nervous as I

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 3>am walking up to the speak set because Marcella's you know,

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 3>joy Ocho. I need a couple extra like on my

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 3>belt loop, you know what I mean, Like I need

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 3>a couple extra points just in case I get into

0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 3>back and forth.

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:47:56.920 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, for Colin Coward, it's okay, tell me a great

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:01.880
<v Speaker 3>story about this, tell me your experience about this. How

0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 3>can you relate to that player that I'm asking you

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 3>about whatever? With Mangold, we're just hanging talking to these

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 3>people that love the Jets, and so okay, this is

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 3>a little more softball than a lot of stuff. We're

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:14.839
<v Speaker 3>not breaking new you know, we're not trying to get

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:17.320
<v Speaker 3>gotcha on the podcast like ha, you said it on

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:19.400
<v Speaker 3>ours and we got all the news. Now, that's not

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 3>really our vibe there, you know. So I think a

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:25.239
<v Speaker 3>lot of it's being able to be versatile once again.

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:27.359
<v Speaker 3>Na Gandhi. He does Little League World Series, he does

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Sports Center, he does Saturday College Football, He you know,

0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:33.320
<v Speaker 3>hosts different shows for them, award shows, all that. He

0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 3>can do it all, Like I want to be able

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:38.320
<v Speaker 3>to do it all a lot for you know, whatever

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:40.800
<v Speaker 3>company wants to hire me, and it just gives you

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 3>more opportunities, the more you can do.

0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:44.480
<v Speaker 2>No, I love that, and all right, so now to

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 2>the funny stuff.

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:49.719
<v Speaker 1>All right, Oh boy, number one, what was the most

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.959
<v Speaker 1>outrageous purchase you had when you got to the league,

0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:55.399
<v Speaker 1>And don't tell me about no abought my mama house.

0:48:55.400 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to hear about it.

0:48:56.360 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 3>Give me, give me somebody, Okay. Remember this is why

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 3>my wife now hates when I buy stuff on Instagram

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:07.279
<v Speaker 3>because I'm a complete sucker for those stupid ads that

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:07.840
<v Speaker 3>come up on it.

0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 1>They pop up a lot more now too, Coach in

0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the moment, Oh.

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Dude, I'm all over them. So before that, for this

0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 3>younger generation, there was a thing called sky Mall. Remember

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:25.359
<v Speaker 3>sky Mall on the planes when you Yeah, I had

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:29.120
<v Speaker 3>stuff crapped from the sharper, stuff from you name it.

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 3>They had it all right. So I finally had a

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 3>little bit of money, and I had seen these damn

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:38.720
<v Speaker 3>magazines forever since I was a little kid and stuff,

0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:40.319
<v Speaker 3>and I was just like, that would be so cool

0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:42.319
<v Speaker 3>to one day, just like if I ever made money,

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:44.880
<v Speaker 3>just go through Skymall and just start circling everything I

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:49.400
<v Speaker 3>wanted to get coud. I got Harry Potter wands I

0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:52.279
<v Speaker 3>got I put I lived on a golf course. I

0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:55.720
<v Speaker 3>got like a six foot Bigfoot statue.

0:49:55.840 --> 0:49:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I remember the Bigfoot statue.

0:49:57.400 --> 0:49:59.799
<v Speaker 3>I bought one and put it out on the golf

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:01.839
<v Speaker 3>It was just a mess with the golfers, like kind

0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:04.040
<v Speaker 3>of hiding me on a tree. Never picked it up,

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:08.719
<v Speaker 3>just left it left if anybody got scared. There was

0:50:09.480 --> 0:50:11.920
<v Speaker 3>remember Gallum from Lord of the Rings. Yeah, there's one

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:13.920
<v Speaker 3>of him crawling out of the ground that looked like

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:16.400
<v Speaker 3>it was a statue. It was like this big got that.

0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:22.839
<v Speaker 3>Remember the cryptex oh from the Angels and Demons or whatever. Yeah,

0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:25.799
<v Speaker 3>Tom Cruise, Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks, Yeah that thing got

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 3>one of those I saw.

0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I remember that, dude. Yeah, I mean it's so lost

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:31.759
<v Speaker 1>right now. Yeah, clearly you are reading.

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:32.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm clearly.

0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:35.719
<v Speaker 3>I got a clear Potter wand and it was like

0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 3>eight hundred and fifty dollars. The worst thing I've ever

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:41.759
<v Speaker 3>bought was a stick that said like Harry Potter on it.

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:44.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I could have made this, but regardless, I

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 3>just was so excited. Big kid, Yeah, like a big kid.

0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:50.360
<v Speaker 3>He just bought some really dumb.

0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm excited about that you paid eight hundred dollars

0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:55.840
<v Speaker 1>because I bought my kids those same wanes at like

0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Universal Studios last summer for like eighty five, and I

0:50:58.680 --> 0:50:58.960
<v Speaker 1>was mad.

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Then this was mine doesn't work?

0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:05.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this was like, well, there's at least makes noise?

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:07.319
<v Speaker 1>Did you have? And if you're in the.

0:51:09.040 --> 0:51:10.360
<v Speaker 3>This was in two thousand and nine, this is my

0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:10.920
<v Speaker 3>rookie year.

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Just I'm like, oh, this is just living. I need

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:18.440
<v Speaker 3>one of those. Yeah. Dumb, just dumbstuck.

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:21.200
<v Speaker 2>So my rookie I had my NFL repraisement.

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:23.879
<v Speaker 1>You know where Ted Washington put me in this card,

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:26.239
<v Speaker 1>made me drive around, pushed me, made me make all

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:28.200
<v Speaker 1>these sounds, and at the end he finally picks it

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:30.960
<v Speaker 1>up and he throws it with me in it. Welcome

0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:34.280
<v Speaker 1>to the NFL, rookie, give me your welcome to the NFL.

0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the NFL moment.

0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:42.359
<v Speaker 3>So well, my first practice with Bart Scott, I mean

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:47.399
<v Speaker 3>he like he was leaning over the center, like over Nick,

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 3>and so immediately I was like, is there no outside?

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:57.760
<v Speaker 3>And so he's just screaming you Richie Valens bleabamba looking nacho,

0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:00.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna call you nao. And I can't even say

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 3>the snap because and everybody was just like crying, laughing.

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:11.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to get just get the first snap, you know,

0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:14.640
<v Speaker 3>hand off like lead zone week, you know, day one

0:52:14.760 --> 0:52:17.440
<v Speaker 3>install type stuff, and we could barely get that off

0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:19.880
<v Speaker 3>the ground. The very first time I gone the stadium

0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:23.680
<v Speaker 3>against the Rams at the Old Giant Stadium, we played

0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:25.920
<v Speaker 3>our preseason game and I come in and as soon

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 3>as I said said hut, my mouthpiece falls out of

0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:31.640
<v Speaker 3>my mouth. Freaking defensive guys are like, what an idiot?

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:35.040
<v Speaker 3>So that was embarrassing. And then I think one of

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:38.279
<v Speaker 3>the worst ones was it was my second year I

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 3>got these for Mike, Petton and Rex in the defensive room.

0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 3>I put a bunch of stink bombs everywhere and crushed

0:52:45.600 --> 0:52:49.080
<v Speaker 3>them in their room right before meeting. And dude, they

0:52:49.120 --> 0:52:52.080
<v Speaker 3>were pissed, so pissed that they got the keys to

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.920
<v Speaker 3>my car when we were out of practice, undid the

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 3>sun roof and had this guy show up at the

0:52:57.000 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 3>facility and then flooded my entire car. They fill the

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:04.160
<v Speaker 3>entire car with pats and then closed it so when

0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:08.600
<v Speaker 3>I opened the doors, just flooded peanuts. So yeah, that

0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:10.919
<v Speaker 3>was that was a good little welcome to the NFL

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:13.319
<v Speaker 3>and don't mess at the defensive room kind of deal.

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:16.719
<v Speaker 2>So I just love the creativity of the hazing and

0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:17.800
<v Speaker 2>the get backs.

0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the unlimited amount of money we're willing to

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:23.560
<v Speaker 1>spend to get you back, Like there is no end,

0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:27.080
<v Speaker 1>but that will spend thousands of dollars, yes, to prove

0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:27.399
<v Speaker 1>a point.

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Remember the alligator.

0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:30.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you cut an alligator.

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 2>He got reviewing with the alligator.

0:53:32.920 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 1>That's a whole in his personal hour, like peanuts up

0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:36.960
<v Speaker 1>at like five am.

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:38.520
<v Speaker 2>That's pull off.

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:40.560
<v Speaker 3>It's so worth it.

0:53:40.719 --> 0:53:43.280
<v Speaker 1>It is so worth it. Fake big old fake alligator,

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:46.400
<v Speaker 1>like a five foot alligator just looks very real too.

0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:48.800
<v Speaker 2>He scared everybody for a whole day in the house. Also,

0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:49.839
<v Speaker 2>it's great.

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:52.800
<v Speaker 1>All right, you talked about your welcome to the NFL.

0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:56.640
<v Speaker 1>How about your your welcome to marriage?

0:53:57.000 --> 0:53:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh moment?

0:53:57.960 --> 0:53:58.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what was like?

0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:02.000
<v Speaker 2>And do you have any advice because we all stink at.

0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 3>It over here, so like I'm an expert, I'm like

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:04.400
<v Speaker 3>three months.

0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:05.160
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that's what I'm saying.

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:08.160
<v Speaker 2>That nothing You're not gonna get any better than where

0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:08.719
<v Speaker 2>you're at right now.

0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:14.880
<v Speaker 3>I think Ry Perry plant an incredible an incredible wedding,

0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:18.360
<v Speaker 3>and my thing was like I was just happy she

0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:18.920
<v Speaker 3>invited me.

0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:22.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, like video looked great, she uh colors, she

0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:23.600
<v Speaker 1>nailed all that.

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 3>And she picked out like ninety nine percent of it.

0:54:26.160 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Every occasionally I'd get to input a little bit, give

0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:32.840
<v Speaker 3>a little input, but she dialed it all in. And

0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:35.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm so lucky to have somebody who balances me out right,

0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:37.960
<v Speaker 3>because I can go like hard charger, no feelings, just

0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:40.040
<v Speaker 3>like I got to get this done, like let's go.

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:42.080
<v Speaker 3>We want to be the best broadcast team, you know.

0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:45.040
<v Speaker 3>And she's just such a good balance of like, hey,

0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:47.880
<v Speaker 3>let's take a step back, relax minute, the world's not

0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:50.080
<v Speaker 3>over today, Like let's just hang in there and just

0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 3>give a little time to the fam. Let's, you know,

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:54.080
<v Speaker 3>do some other stuff. Get your mind off of that

0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:56.279
<v Speaker 3>for a second, and then you'll be refreshed ready to roll.

0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:59.680
<v Speaker 3>So she's perfect balance for me. And we had so

0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:02.800
<v Speaker 3>much fun, so much fun at the wedding. Honeymoon we

0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 3>went to Safari in Africa, which was incredible. Dude, I

0:55:06.640 --> 0:55:10.920
<v Speaker 3>highly recommend if you guys haven't gone, but I've never

0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:14.200
<v Speaker 3>seen like nature like that. It's like watching in Africa.

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:18.120
<v Speaker 3>We went Kenya, and Tanzania. Okay, and so it's we

0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:20.960
<v Speaker 3>saw the great migration of the wilde beest. Two million

0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:25.600
<v Speaker 3>wildebeest in every direction that you can see through binoculars

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:27.640
<v Speaker 3>and in front of your face, like it's like twenty

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 3>five feet they're right next to you and they just

0:55:30.280 --> 0:55:33.320
<v Speaker 3>go NonStop and they're moving through the camp. And it

0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:37.120
<v Speaker 3>was incredible, man, watching these lions hunt. And it was

0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 3>you see giraffes nursing baby lion cubs nursing like it

0:55:41.560 --> 0:55:43.360
<v Speaker 3>was beautiful, man, it was. It was really cool. And

0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:45.960
<v Speaker 3>that was once again her, she planned it all with

0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:49.480
<v Speaker 3>this incredible travel planner. So now time, what were the

0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 3>mosquitos like, No mosquito.

0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:54.560
<v Speaker 1>They were bad, not as bad as that was a

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:57.360
<v Speaker 1>question I never would have thought about.

0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Are they on you like that? Because they're usually on

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:04.480
<v Speaker 3>her too. They attack certain people. I think it's the thing.

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:06.960
<v Speaker 3>It's either a blood type or like your temperature. It's

0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 3>something they like black people. I guess I don't know, dude,

0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:13.239
<v Speaker 3>I get ate up. See I'm not terrible. My wife is.

0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:16.800
<v Speaker 3>She gets it so bad. But they have all the

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:19.920
<v Speaker 3>plays out there. Nobody has off or like any of

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:21.880
<v Speaker 3>the stuff we sell here in the us. You know

0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:24.880
<v Speaker 3>what they have, like the regular stuff that's in plants,

0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:27.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, and they like strip down some plans and

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 3>rub it on you. They got the peppermint, like natural

0:56:30.320 --> 0:56:33.320
<v Speaker 3>vanilla this or whatever. And it was like, oh, you

0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:34.520
<v Speaker 3>don't need all that other stuff.

0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:35.680
<v Speaker 2>We don't even need it.

0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so waste money, dude. And it was it was

0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:40.360
<v Speaker 1>it was really cool to see that.

0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:42.759
<v Speaker 3>You know, you literally see the mosquitos come near and

0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 3>it's like the natural stuff and there's you making you

0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:47.120
<v Speaker 3>turn gone. It was really cool.

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:50.840
<v Speaker 2>That's cool. So Mount Rushmore four people?

0:56:51.280 --> 0:56:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what is your personal Mount Rushmore of people that

0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:59.720
<v Speaker 1>have had success in childhood, high school, college, NFL just out.

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Your entire life?

0:57:01.880 --> 0:57:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Good lord, I mean, sheesh, Pop's got to be on there.

0:57:08.560 --> 0:57:10.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's four places, which is perfect because I

0:57:10.600 --> 0:57:12.919
<v Speaker 3>have two brothers, my dad and my mom. That's that's

0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:19.280
<v Speaker 3>a no brainer. I think man like mentors and stuff.

0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Coach Carrol's got to be on there. I think Bob Johnson,

0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:25.400
<v Speaker 3>my high school coach, has got to be on there.

0:57:26.840 --> 0:57:31.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh man, this is a hard one. Yeah. When it

0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:36.600
<v Speaker 3>comes to just straight up football, I mean whether it's

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:42.360
<v Speaker 3>Aaron or Tom Brady, a man, I think ability throwing

0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:45.520
<v Speaker 3>the ball. Wise, it's got to be Aaron. If it's

0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:48.840
<v Speaker 3>accomplishments and super Bowls and winning and all the records,

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:50.160
<v Speaker 3>he said, it's got to be Tom.

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:57:53.640 --> 0:57:56.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to think. Yeah, because all the time, all time,

0:57:56.200 --> 0:58:00.600
<v Speaker 3>all time favorite athlete ever was Kobe Bryant. Probably second

0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:03.160
<v Speaker 3>would be Carson Palmer. And I was Carson's ball boy

0:58:03.240 --> 0:58:05.280
<v Speaker 3>and water boy when he was in high school. Really yeah,

0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:08.320
<v Speaker 3>like I Carson was like my dog. So Coach Carroll

0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:11.800
<v Speaker 3>had to make this tape, this highlight tape of plays

0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:14.200
<v Speaker 3>that Carson ran and plays that I ran when I

0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:16.880
<v Speaker 3>filled in for John David Boody for three games moving

0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:18.520
<v Speaker 3>into the next year. Because I would only go in

0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:20.800
<v Speaker 3>the office and watch Carson tape. I would watch all

0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:24.800
<v Speaker 3>old film of him, Norm Chow and all these guys,

0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Big Tom West, Coast, Kelly Freaking Mike Williams, like all

0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:33.600
<v Speaker 3>these guys. Right. So Pete had to make this like

0:58:33.760 --> 0:58:37.080
<v Speaker 3>fifteen play clip and it went, Carson play my play,

0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:39.479
<v Speaker 3>Carson played my play, And they're almost identical plays because

0:58:39.480 --> 0:58:41.440
<v Speaker 3>we're running the same offense. So it's like, you know,

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:43.520
<v Speaker 3>play action to left, boot out to the right, throw

0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:45.560
<v Speaker 3>the deep comeback on the run, boom, Carson does it.

0:58:45.680 --> 0:58:48.600
<v Speaker 3>I do it. And so after the the matchup or

0:58:48.680 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 3>after the mashup of the tape, Coach Carrol's like, what

0:58:51.320 --> 0:58:55.480
<v Speaker 3>did you see? And I said, Carson's awesome. He goes,

0:58:56.040 --> 0:58:59.320
<v Speaker 3>all right, every play we put in there like look,

0:58:59.360 --> 0:59:02.600
<v Speaker 3>and he showed me the description of all the place.

0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:05.240
<v Speaker 3>He's like, you did exactly what Carson did. I need

0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:07.040
<v Speaker 3>you to be our quarterback. I need you to be

0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Mark Sanchez, not Mark Sanchez trying to be Carson Palmer.

0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Take Carson off the pedestel, and I need you to

0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:14.200
<v Speaker 3>be yourself and be our starter because you're gonna be

0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:15.920
<v Speaker 3>our starter this year. And that's kind of how he

0:59:16.040 --> 0:59:18.200
<v Speaker 3>told me, like that was and I was like, damn,

0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:22.000
<v Speaker 3>so like that is how I resonate with or how

0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Coach Carrol resonates with.

0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Yah.

0:59:23.480 --> 0:59:27.320
<v Speaker 3>Sure, ever, forget that of him making me me and go.

0:59:28.160 --> 0:59:29.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, I had to get through something to get

0:59:29.880 --> 0:59:31.680
<v Speaker 3>where I wanted to go, and he knew part of

0:59:31.760 --> 0:59:34.800
<v Speaker 3>that was taking Carson down well, respecting him of course,

0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:38.080
<v Speaker 3>but so yeah, that that kind of encompasses two of

0:59:38.120 --> 0:59:38.960
<v Speaker 3>those guys that I love.

0:59:40.120 --> 0:59:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it's really cool how sometimes not all people

0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:48.040
<v Speaker 1>have like this over this confidence to where we still

0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:48.960
<v Speaker 1>need to be told we.

0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Do it, that we can achieve.

0:59:50.520 --> 0:59:54.760
<v Speaker 1>It's okay, believe in yourself and that you got it all.

0:59:55.000 --> 0:59:57.640
<v Speaker 2>We just need you to go do it. So that's

0:59:57.720 --> 0:59:58.640
<v Speaker 2>that's really special. Man.

0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Appreciate you showing sharing all your stories. Mark Man, it's

1:00:02.040 --> 1:00:03.840
<v Speaker 1>been a it's been a blessing man. Thank you, Bro,

1:00:04.040 --> 1:00:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys. We're gonna hang out more. You guys

1:00:05.760 --> 1:00:08.120
<v Speaker 1>are in something. Yeah, I'm winning. We ain't doing nothing

1:00:08.120 --> 1:00:08.280
<v Speaker 1>to that.

1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:09.680
<v Speaker 2>I need to go to Dana Point I used to

1:00:09.720 --> 1:00:12.320
<v Speaker 2>live on. So yeah, that's what's up. That's what's up.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey man, I'm just trying to go appreciate it. I'm

1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:16.840
<v Speaker 1>just trying to go, who am I kid? We're gonna

1:00:16.880 --> 1:00:18.640
<v Speaker 1>get three holes for you? Yeah, for sure, we're gonna

1:00:18.640 --> 1:00:20.000
<v Speaker 1>get We're gonna get three or four holes for you.

1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:21.440
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get around and golf at the hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks man. Hey, I'm Peanut Tubman.

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