1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: So we have not actually exchanged our takes and opinions. Um, 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: we don't stand next to each other during practice. We 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: both have different vantage points. So I figure this would 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: be a good time for us to kind of review 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: in live time with you what we saw at practice, 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: what we think, and of course we'll take your questions 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: and calls. It to a one four or five one three. 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: It's all presented by corps light. All right, Paul, I'll 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: let you go first, give me your take number one. Okay, Uh, 10 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: first things first, we'll go right to the quarterback. Why 11 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: not Daniel Jones through the ball extremely well, mostly short stuff. 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: In the two days that we were allowed to see, 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: did you watch yesterday was not allowed? They did have 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: a morning practice yesterday. It wasn't very thorough. My guess 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: is that it was abbreviated. I'm sure. Yeah. They did 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: not have a separate walkthrough and practice. It was all 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: back to back, so I'm guessing that it was very truncated. Yeah, 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: So let's let let John and I give you a 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: little asters first off, saying that we only got to 20 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: watch on Friday and Saturday. So having seen those practices, 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: I thought during the course of both days Daniel Jones 22 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: through the ball. Well, he throws a nice spiral. We 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: knew that he's got some touch on the ball. He 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: can get the ball deep. Look, the weather was good, 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: you guys know, the typical meadow Lands winds that usually 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: hit in November and December can be really nasty. It 27 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: was a little moist though, Yeah, but it wasn't really windy. No, 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't so so to to just make it clear, 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones threw the ball fine. I think he threw 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: all the routes again, mostly short stuff, but I did 31 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: see him go through all the different routes and I 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: did not see him have any trouble getting the ball 33 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: where it had to go. Again, wasn't much of a 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: wind though, and I think it's important to let people 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, I agree with that. Um My general 36 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: take and then I'll specifically give you mine on Jones 37 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: was that none of the players surprised me. I think 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: what I hate to see. And it mayzed because I 39 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: didn't more film work this year, but in years past 40 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: the Giants might have drafted somebody. They show up, you 41 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: have a preconceived notion of what the player is. Then 42 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: you see him out and you're like, oh, that's not 43 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: what I was told. You know what I mean? But 44 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: this year, pretty much all the guys that were here 45 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: that I had previously watched, It's like, okay, yeah, I 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: saw that there. I saw that on tape. I saw 47 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: that on tape. Yeah, this guy looks like the guy 48 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: that I scouted and looked like, looks like the guy 49 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: that the team described to me in the in the 50 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: post draft press conferences. So I thought everybody was exactly 51 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: kind of what I thought they were going to be. 52 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: To be quite honest with you, no one surprised me. 53 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: Next advertised correct. Now, for Daniel Jones, I have no 54 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: concerns about the kid's arm strength. I don't think he 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: has a prime Eli Manning caliber arm even I'll say 56 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: this for you know, a guy that we watched closely 57 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: for a couple of years. I don't think he has 58 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: an arm as good as Davis Webb, for example. But 59 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: his arm is good enough to make all the throws um. 60 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: He puts good spin on the ball, throws a nice spiral. 61 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: Probably those are better spiral than Eli did when he 62 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: was younger quarterback here who and he still frankly doesn't 63 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: throw a great spile from time to time, all the time. No, 64 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: absolutely not. So I think he certainly has a good 65 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: enough for to make all the throws. What's gonna determine 66 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: there are two things for me for Daniel Jones, and 67 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: what I saw in practice again is what I saw 68 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: on tape. Two things are gonna be what's gonna determine 69 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: his success in the NFL. One how consistently accurate he's 70 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: going to be down the field. We saw him throw 71 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: some high balls over the course of the two days 72 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: of practice, which is surprising because that wasn't something he 73 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: actually did it duke much at all. I think maybe 74 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: he was a little bit juiced up. He did overthrow 75 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: a couple of deep passes. Now, he did throw one 76 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: interception on a great play by DeAndre Baker, and when 77 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that later. He deflected it to the safety, 78 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: but he turned around a great coverage, made a nice 79 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: play on the ball whinfield got the interception, And evenother 80 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: ball that could have been picked they got dropped in 81 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: the flat. So it's consistent accuracy and decision making and 82 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: throwing the ball on the coverage. If he can get 83 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: those two things figured out, he's going to be fine. Um, 84 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: he moved around. Okay, he didn't really. Obviously you're not 85 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: gonna run with the ball at a quarterback at these practices. 86 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: He did get out and scramble once. He still has 87 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: the athleticism. He's certainly big enough to make all the 88 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: throws and what you said, And I think maybe this 89 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: is why people dinged his arm strength as much as 90 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: they did when he was at Duke. He controls his 91 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: throw velocity well. He will not just fire a ball 92 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: in there for the sake of firing it. He will 93 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: try to put some touch on it for a more 94 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: catchable ball if the throw allows it. And I think 95 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: those are good things. And I think maybe something that 96 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: might have frightened somebody from watching the Duke tape, Well, 97 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't have the big arm to you know, 98 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: zip the ball everywhere, but maybe he wasn't trying to 99 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: zip the ball. Everybody didn't have to One thing that 100 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: I thought was important, John, and it really kind of 101 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: went unnoticed I think by most observers. But for a 102 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: guy who didn't do a lot of stuff from under center, 103 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: his footwork on his jobs for great point, I didn't 104 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: see him trip over himself once or look awkward or 105 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: be off balance on the pocket once. Now, he did 106 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: do some stuff from under center or duke, but it 107 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: was primariment to shotgun limited. And you know, from from 108 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: my experiences and I've talked to offensive coordinators for for 109 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: three decades, okay, they will always tell you that, especially 110 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 1: a shotgun quarterback, the footwork is absolutely priority number one 111 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: because to take that ball from center and then to 112 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: get the footwork down properly in the pocket is a 113 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: very unnatural feel for these guys because they've been going 114 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: through their college careers without doing it. And so the 115 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: fact that he was so smooth at John not once 116 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: that I look and say, oh, there's the feet, not once. 117 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: I agree with that. Everything was smooth and when you 118 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: don't notice it, that's good. And there was one fumbled snap, 119 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: but it wasn't his and it was one of the 120 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks that fumbled the center exchange right not to 121 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: good point checking all the boxes today, as far as 122 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: the boxes he can check. Yeah, Physically, I feel fine 123 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: about him. And as we talked about in the Showman Times, 124 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: what makes a quarterback great is what's going on between 125 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: the ears and accuracy, which is one physical thing that's 126 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: very important, um. And but you know, we'll see as 127 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: he gets on the field, he gets more playing time, 128 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: we'll see how he's able to, you know, read defenses 129 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: on the fly, decision making once he has the balls 130 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: in his hands, ball in his hands, and do all 131 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: those different things that quarterbacks have to do when they 132 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: run to play, make split second decisions, redefensive quickly, make 133 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: good decisions when I can't know that until he gets 134 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: on the fire and games. So that's where we're at 135 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: with him. We should throw one other thing out there, 136 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: go ahead. His poise in handling the entire media circus, 137 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: and there was a media circus here I thought was 138 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: also very well done, which is also not surprising what 139 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: we expected. We saw him at the combine, both of us. 140 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: I saw him at the senior ball too, and I 141 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: mean he he handles things exactly as Ely would. He 142 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: is so smooth, He is so nonchalant in terms of okay, fine, 143 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: what's the question, were right out of the Eli manning, Yes, 144 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: they he's and I am, And I'm going to do 145 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: my best to try to not make that comparison because 146 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair, and I think a lot 147 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: of people think Oh, well, they picked him because he 148 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: looks like Eli. You know, they picked him because he 149 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: think they think he's a good football. But the demeanor 150 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: comparison is fair, and that's not doing him an injustice. 151 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: No it's not, it's not. But because of all the 152 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: noise and negativity around that comparison that people have, that's 153 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: why I want to try to stay awake, you know 154 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: what I mean. Well, let's just say he was poised. 155 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: Then how about that? And again, I don't disagree with 156 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: the actual comparison at all. I think you're right on 157 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: about it. And I said to myself, is his answer 158 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: sounding something like you would hear? But very very smooth 159 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: comparison I'm gonna try to stay away from just because 160 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: I think people will take it the wrong way. And 161 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: you know what else, to let me just throw out 162 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: this other word humble. Yes, he does not show any 163 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: cockiness at all, very humble. You don't see him and 164 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: his dad, you know, forming an entertainment company twenty four 165 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: hours after he got drafted. I'm just saying, let's move 166 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: on um Baker, since we mentioned him already, let's go 167 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: him next again. Exactly what I saw on Taple, I 168 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: saw him struggle on on a couple of reps where 169 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: he was playing off coverage. There was a double move 170 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: he got nailed on on off coverage. Now it was 171 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: under thrown pass by the quarterback. It was in jones 172 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: with somebody else and he got beat. But when you 173 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: got him up in press, he stuck to the receiver. 174 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: He had two or three pass breakups over the course 175 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: of a couple of days. Very sticky. Now, the problem 176 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: is that a lot of the stickiness and you see 177 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: jerseys getting pulled, You see him grabbing and tugging, and 178 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: that first day on Friday especially, we saw a lot 179 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: of flags get thrown on the secondary. It got cleaned 180 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: up a little bit on Saturday. It wasn't nearly as bad, 181 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: but it's something we saw. If you look at his 182 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: tape at Georgia, you saw it there too, where he 183 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: doesn't get his head around great sometimes and he gets 184 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: a little gray, he gets a little tuggy, gets a 185 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: little sticky. But that's something. The only thing that I 186 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: worry about Baker is that, um everything else. You know, 187 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: he he's a good look. If you put him in 188 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: bumping run coverage, he's going to be a good player 189 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: for you. Bottom line, I saw one thing about him 190 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: that I really really, really really really liked, and that 191 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: is they not They latched him up in eleven on 192 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: eleven three different times against Reggie White Junior for a 193 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: month now. Reggie White Jr. Is not a a an 194 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: accomplished guy in that he played at an FCS school, right, 195 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: we agree with that. However, it's important to see how 196 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: Baker stylistically try to guard the much larger received. He's 197 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: about six to Reggie White Jr. I think they think 198 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: him sixth three or six six? What do they list 199 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: him at? They list him at They list h at 200 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: six too. Okay, point is length and height much much 201 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: bigger than Baker. That's a mismatch. And if you're an 202 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and you see DeAndre Baker out there, that's 203 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: what you're gonna try to do. A bigger six ft 204 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: flat right barely. I know he might not be out. 205 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: I'll check his combine measurements. In fact, I gonna check 206 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: them right in front of me. You're saying, Okay, so 207 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: that's the mismatch you're gonna try to create, right, Okay? 208 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: What did he do against when? What did he do 209 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: against White? When he was in one on one with him. 210 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: I saw him give up one catch all of the 211 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: two days that I watched, though not a whole lot. 212 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: What I what I liked was the way he used 213 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: leverage on him. He twisted his hips, he got his 214 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: back pedal going, he was using his on bar to 215 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: make sure that he pushed White to the without without 216 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: necessarily getting too physical with him. Made sure that he 217 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: ran him out of room, ran him off to the sideline, 218 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: and gave White no room to operate in his route. 219 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: And that is exactly what he's gonna have to do 220 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: against bigger receivers when he's playing a regular season game 221 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. He's gonna constantly go get 222 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: up against guys like that, and he's gonna have to 223 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: make sure that he squashes their space, and he's gonna 224 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: have to use technique to do it. I saw that 225 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: during Rocky Manicamp, and that made me feel very good. 226 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: Baker's five eleven zero, by the way, so he's five 227 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: eleven on the nose. That's from the combine, So I 228 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: think that's probably the best measurement uh that week. I'm 229 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: trying to find it right now. If he's on he's 230 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: got him buy at least three or four inches. I 231 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: do not have his measurements in front of me. I 232 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: can look them up on the NFL dot com weps. Okay, 233 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: but um yeah, Baker, look you see what I'm getting 234 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: at and what you're gonna see Baker do is is 235 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: when he's in that man to man folks, he's gonna 236 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: play inside leverage. He's gonna try to trap the wide 237 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: receiver on the sideline. He's gonna get leverage. He's gonna 238 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: try to use that inside leverage try to take away 239 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: the slant of the deep in cuts and he's gonna 240 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: try to play those sideline back shoulder fades, deep goes, 241 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: all that stuff and post he's gonna try to take 242 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 1: that away with his ability to locate the ball and 243 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: being physical. But he's gonna try to trap the guy 244 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: in the cyline and that's how he's going to try 245 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: to cover. The technique looked really really good to me, 246 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: and and that that's good. I I don't want to 247 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: see him have to be coached up a tremendous amount. 248 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: He's a number one pick. I'd like to think that 249 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: he's close to being ready made with water, close to 250 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: and I think he showed some of that to me, 251 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: you would hope. Um. A couple other things to point 252 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: out as we move along here, Dexter Lawrence obviously no pads. 253 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: Tough to really see with him, but very He's listen 254 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: at three forty and he looks lean, which to me 255 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: is doesn't Yeah, he doesn't look like he's three forty. 256 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: He wears that nineties seven and it kind of I 257 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: get his body type reminds me a little bit of 258 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: Linval Joseph, That's what it reminds me of. After Joseph 259 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: was here a couple of years and kinda when when 260 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: got here, he's little, little chunky. I think it might 261 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: be fair. Yeah, but that baby fat, baby baby fat 262 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: after a couple of years kind of went away. And 263 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: Lawrence looks like he's went away Clemson already, so he 264 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: can move. He's big, but he can't really see much 265 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: of that. The pads on a practice the only thing 266 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: from him that I was able to notice. And you're 267 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: absolutely right, John, the guys in the trenches, I mean, 268 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: come on, no pads, no contact, no nothing. What are 269 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: you gonna say? But here's what I will say against 270 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: the stand up dummies in the defensive line drills. His 271 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: hands were extremely quick, very very quick in terms of 272 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: the slapping as he was going through the dummies. How 273 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: do and how do you know that? Well, because they 274 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: would send six or seven of the guys one of 275 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: the time through the line, and if you watched, you 276 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: could see, well, that guy does it faster than that guy. 277 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: That guy is slower than that guy. Lawrence would come 278 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: through and he was licking. He split with his arms 279 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: in his hands, very very quick upper body. Um, that's 280 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: a good sign for me. It's not a bad sign, certainly, 281 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: So we'll keep an eye In text to Lawrence hasn't 282 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: moved alone. The Brookie's, by the way, are gone this week. 283 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: They're back next week and then they'll be here for 284 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: the duration throughout the rest of o ts in minicamp, 285 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: which begin the fourth week third Becam May, the week 286 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: before Memorial Day. That's get going. Um, a couple other 287 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: guys I want touch on very quickly. O'Shane Zimmenez. Again, 288 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: you saw his hands and that's what impressed me the 289 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: most about him. He has a lot of good hand 290 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: movement on his pass rush to get offensive linement off 291 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: of him. But again without pads, I want to see 292 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: him go against power and strengthen contact. He has the 293 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: physical quickness and hands that to get it done. But 294 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: we knew that already, right, so we gotta show him 295 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: in pads against somebody else. And I don't know if 296 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: I saw him in coverage much. He was pretty much 297 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: going after the quarter. That's what they wanted him to do. Yeah, 298 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: it's it's safe to say that. And I at extra Lawrence, 299 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: by the way, did play all across the defensive line. 300 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't just a nose tackle. He was at the 301 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: three technique and the five technique as well. UM a 302 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: couple other guys that I noticed that I thought were interesting. 303 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: You know. Dave Geentleman mentioned safety is a possibility for 304 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: Julian Love at the press conference. I was thinking, okay, 305 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: down the line, maybe you're using there right now. Well, 306 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: they took care to use him at outside corner, slock corner, 307 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: and it's safety. So I think if you get through O. 308 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: T A. S and Minica him now and you're like, 309 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: all right, well, Grant Hanley, we think he can be 310 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: a really good slot corner frost, you might do. Julian 311 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: Love competing with Antoine bethet To be the free safety, 312 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: and you understand why they think that he was better 313 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: as an off player at Notre Dame. He breaks on 314 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: the ball really well, he's smart, he's a good tackler, 315 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: and again all his times getting his hands on the 316 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: ball in college as a coverage guy lends itself and 317 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: his intelligence to playing free safety. So I get what 318 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: they're trying to do. I think it'll be interesting to 319 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: see how and where they use him and how often 320 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: throts in minicamp, and then they'll decide where they're at, 321 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: they'll reset, and then where he opens up in training 322 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: camp I think will be really really telling Yeah, based 323 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: on the fact that he got as many safety snaps 324 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: as he did over the week. I was telling my 325 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: dad the other day, I wouldn't be shocked if they 326 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: start training him that way during training camp with the 327 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: intention that maybe a month to the regular season he 328 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: might supplant. But they's the starter. It wouldn't shock me, John, 329 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: because the sky's the limit for the kid. He's got 330 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: tremendous ability and we know his attitude checks all the boxes, 331 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: So why hold him back If he proves that he 332 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: can actually wrestle that spot away, give him a chance 333 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah. Absolutely, we'll see what happens with him. 334 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: Ryan Connelly again, middle linebacker. He did seem to be 335 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: making all the calls as the mic. He covered a 336 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: couple of guys in the flat. Um. Again, hard to 337 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: really see the middle linebackers. Did you pick anything up 338 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: with him specifically? I did not see anything other than 339 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: the the one pass in the right flat where he 340 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: read it. It would have been a pick six on 341 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones as a matter of fact, right in his hands, 342 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: and he dropped the ball. That's that's about all. Darius 343 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: Layton showed off his speed. Uh, yes, bought the ball 344 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yes, I'll use the kind verbiage on 345 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: consistent hands is the way I'm going to I think 346 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: he probably dropped around three or four Daniel Jones passes. See. 347 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: My theory is that he was just trying to make 348 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones feel at home, like he was back at Duke. 349 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: You know, maybe he was feeling uncomfortable here, so he's like, 350 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: all right, I'll drop a few to make could seem 351 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: like you're back and due to make you feel a 352 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: bit more comfortable. Um. I understand the thought, John, because 353 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: there were those in the press corps who were saying 354 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: the same thing. I'm obviously joking, folks, Yes, yes he 355 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: is kid is kidding, But the snickers coming from the 356 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: writers was was long those lines. Here's what I will say, though, Uh, 357 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: he's got no trouble beating guy's deep. First play of 358 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: one on one, first play of one on one. I 359 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: forget number who who's number twenty nine? Who wasn't well? 360 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: Who was number twenty nine? And rookie minicamp. He's gone, 361 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: he's not here anymore. No, but he was, he was, 362 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: He was on the roster right what was his name? No, 363 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: because Cameron Moore is twenty nine and Kevin Moore was 364 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: not here. Oh okay, so the guy the guys now gone. 365 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: This is the new this is the new ros Oh 366 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: that's that's not the rookie. This is this morning roster. 367 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't get that yet. Well, number twenty 368 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: nine a rookie mini caamp. He lined up one on 369 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: one with Darius Layton the first play, the first play 370 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: of rookie the first one on one drove rookie mini 371 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: camp and he just ran right past him and Daniel 372 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: Jones to a beautiful pass to him for what would 373 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: have been a touchdown. So he's all this being in 374 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: the world, but maybe he's got to work on those hands. 375 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: DeAndre Elliott six ft from Colorado State, Yeah, he had. 376 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: He had trouble staying with Darius Slayton on that first 377 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 1: deep rout of one on once yea, and Elliott did 378 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: not get signed by the way over the weekend, So 379 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: you want to update the folks on some of the 380 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: guys that did. Uh. There was a punter Anderson, Ryan Anderson, 381 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: and they like to have a couple of legs that 382 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: those special team spots in here over the off season. 383 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: I would not think Riley Dixon's job is no, no, no, 384 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,479 Speaker 1: no no. There was a defensive lineman Alex Jenkins who 385 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: has been in camp with the Saints for a couple 386 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: of years. He's an Englishman in the international NFL program 387 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: and I was on the practice squad with the Saints. 388 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: He's intriguing to me, John, did you watch him at 389 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 1: all specifically? I did? And the reason why he's like 390 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 1: six five eight five, I mean his body, his frame 391 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: is really impressive. So he was more of a five tech. 392 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: He was more of a down lineman than he was 393 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: an outside line back. There's no question. There's no question. 394 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: Let me see where did it away? When where they 395 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: put him? Alex Jenketts they listened to six four, they 396 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: listen to if he's two fifty eight, he can be. 397 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: I think he's bigger than that. I thought he was 398 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: bigger that when I looked at him. Now the good 399 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: news for you, I heard, since he might be on 400 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: the roster, they're actually gonna relocate one of our games 401 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: to London. I don't ever think that again. That's in fact, 402 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: if you speak that again, okay, I will be forced 403 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: to capitate you. That's strong. That's strong. Ironically, Paul did 404 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: not watch Game of Thrones last night, which somebody didn't 405 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: happen one of these, one of the main characters got decapitated, 406 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: which is why might think you're referencing that. But he's not. 407 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: He just wants the old school with the captain. I 408 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: believe in the game of throws, as in quarterbacks who 409 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: throw the ball anyway. By the way, that was also 410 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: a joke. Paul just doesn't like going overseas two five three, 411 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: I got I got one more thing I was going 412 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: to ask him before I went to the cause of you. 413 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: Another thing I did one more thing. I really, I 414 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: really wanted to say this because shout out to an 415 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: FCS guy who we covered in the NBC. Now, Harry 416 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: Crawford from Duquesne did not let one ball drop and 417 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: he got everything he would. He was getting open, he 418 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: was running his routes swell. He caught everything somehow, Alas 419 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: he did not get signed. And I feel bad about 420 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: that because that was a guy who, in my opinion, 421 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: showed a lot during this rookie minicamp. I also thought 422 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: that the c J. Conrad to me look like very 423 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: soft hands. The guy is stacked and thick and built 424 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: tight end by the way, Yes, and I I right 425 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: now he is my rookie minicamp sleeper to at least 426 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: be on the practice squad, c J. Conrad. And I'm 427 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: saying that without any contact because obviously they don't do that. 428 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put an asterisk next to him. But 429 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: c J. Conrad is a guy to watch for me. 430 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: Now I'm done to four five on three. Let's go 431 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: to Marco in Connecticut. He'll lead us off today on 432 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: Big Blue Kick Off Live. Hey Marcos, I'm not too much. 433 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm just so excited that we had a little week 434 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: end of talking about some guys there. That was fun 435 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: to read the reports. Um. I over the weekend, I 436 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: would have in one of many debates with some Giant 437 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: fans and also fans friends that are not fans of 438 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: the team. Uh, and they just everyone's bringing up hey, 439 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: you know basically what you're hearing on the radio, like, oh, 440 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: what is Ghettoman's plan? There was a plan. Now there 441 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be a plan, which I really don't 442 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: subscribe to it all, and and it's really dumb. And 443 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: I was like, I broke it down with some with 444 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: some friends and on what I thought. But I wanted 445 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: to call you guys and and talk about this. I 446 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: think the biggest competitive advantage now in the NFL, UM 447 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: are these teams that have quarterbacks on the rookie contracts, 448 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: and especially if those rookies are playing pretty good, and 449 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: then you can go in there and really surround the 450 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: team with great players and make a run for it. 451 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: And you see a lot of teams doing it. Um. 452 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: I think when it comes to a plan, I think 453 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: that obviously the Giants know that, and they know the 454 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: number six pick and what kind of contract he's going 455 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: to have. It's all out there now and it's not 456 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: like it used to be years ago. So I think 457 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen like probably, I would guess, and my 458 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: prediction is going to be next year or the year after. 459 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: But here's where I like, I think when you're talking 460 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: to other people and they have thrown off because get 461 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: him In does throw out a few different models, and 462 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: what I explained to some of my buddies, I'm like, 463 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: he's just giving you examples of the way teams have 464 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: done it with rookie quarterbacks, not saying like the Giants 465 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: are going to do it one way or another. I 466 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: don't think I'd be really shocked. I would be pleasantly 467 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: surprised for it this way. By the way, if Eli 468 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: has a great year and then he was to resign 469 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: and now you have Jones who are sitting for two 470 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: or three years, I don't this has nothing to do, 471 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: nothing to do with Eli. I just don't think is 472 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: going to happen based on what I said the competitive advantage, 473 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: But I guess I'm trying to I want to ask you, guys, 474 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: do you feel like there's an advantage of letting the 475 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: kid play and letting these rookies play right away, whether 476 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: it's five games in or from the get go, or 477 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: or even a little bit towards the end of the year. 478 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: I think it depends on the player, Marco. I think 479 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: some guys are more ready to go than others. I 480 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: think some guys, um maybe physically aren't there yet, and 481 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: putting them out there when they're not ready physically can 482 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: only hurt them. Um. I'm not sure if any of 483 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: the Giants guys, in my opinion, necessarily fall into that category. 484 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: I think most of these guys, you know, physically and mentally, 485 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: can can handle the game. I don't see any big 486 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: time projects. Maybe Corey Balentine coming from Washburn is gonna 487 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 1: need some times now, who knows how long with this injury, 488 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: you know how long he's gonna get back. But I 489 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: don't think that there's anybody that you have to hold 490 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: back because of an injury or or any problem like that. Um, 491 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: other than of course, you know a better player being 492 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: in front of him. Are you talking specific quarterback or 493 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: any position specifically quarter oh specifically quarterback. I wasn't. I 494 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,239 Speaker 1: wasn't sure which way you were going on that. For me, 495 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: it's case by case basis. I I mean, it's short 496 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: and sweet and simple, case by case basis, Marco, and 497 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: I'll say, yes, I think every quarterback is helped by 498 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: waiting a little bit. I'd prefer that too, But sometimes 499 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: you don't have the luxury. Correct, Sometimes you don't have 500 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: the luxury because if you go back, Marco and you 501 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: take a look at the seasons of rookie quarterbacks over 502 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: the past fifteen to twenty years, you don't find many 503 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: good ones in there. I mean, Carson Wentz started his 504 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: career off with two or three really good ones, then 505 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: he played frankly poorly the rest of the year. Baker 506 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: Mayfield probably in one of the best rookie quarterback years 507 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: that we've seen. But you go back, there are not 508 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: many really good rookie you know who actually had one 509 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: of the best rookie quarterback seasons that Prescott. If you 510 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: look at the numbers, he's probably one of the guys 511 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: that's up there, But there really aren't many others. So yeah, 512 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: I think there's certainly is a benefit to a rookie 513 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: quarter act, to sitting and watching for a certain amount 514 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: of time. And yes, at the end of the year, 515 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: do I think it's good for them to get what 516 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: behind the years and get some snaps in. Yeah, I 517 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: think that's a good thing too. Here's here's here's my 518 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: last point. Um you guys comments you know, if you 519 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: if you can't, if you can, I'd love to hear 520 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: your take on it. But um geentleman has done an 521 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: awesome job of eliminating as many distractions as he could 522 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: out of the locker room. He's he's put so many 523 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: good guys and quality leaders in the in the building. 524 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: And you could tell what's going on here. I think 525 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: a story that and I don't. I don't know how. 526 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: Here's my question. I don't know how the giants get 527 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: away from this story all year that if Eli has 528 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: a good year, they're gonna ask about him on last 529 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 1: year's contract. They're gonna ask about Ben and Philip Rivers 530 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: being resigned if he if he comes out and even 531 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: struggles in the least bit, you know what they're gonna 532 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: be calling for. Of course, I don't know. I don't 533 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: know how you get away from that distraction. This year 534 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: is try to go out and here's how you're doing. 535 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: Here's how you're doing. All right? You draft Daniel Jones, 536 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: who is like Manning Brother number four, these two guys 537 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: will not allow that storyline to be a distraction. No 538 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: matter how much the writers beg and plead and throw 539 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: fish on the end of the hook and throw chum 540 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: in the water for the sharks, it's not going to happen. 541 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: These two guys will not let it. Yes, that's the thing, Marco. 542 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: The questions will be asked. You're absolutely right, and no 543 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: one's gonna stop the questions being asked. But if when 544 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: the question is asked, both guys answer the same way 545 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: every single time, Well, you know what, I'm gonna go 546 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: out there if you're if you're Eli, I'm gonna go 547 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: out there. I'm gonna play my best. The team will 548 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: make a decision when they make a team. Until then, 549 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: I consider myself to starter and I'm gonna do my 550 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: best to play good football. And Daniel Jones says, I'm 551 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: here to learn. I will do whatever the team asked 552 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: me to do. I'm happy to sit behind Eli. I'm 553 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: growing a lot, and I love being a member of 554 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. If those two guys answer that 555 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: question that way every single time, every time they're asked, 556 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: guess what, there's not going to be a story because 557 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: the controversy is going to come from the way those 558 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: guys answer the question, not necessarily whether or not the 559 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: question is asked. Now. Don't get me wrong, Marco. Don't 560 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: get me wrong. The writers will try to twist it. 561 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: They will take stuff out of context, they will make 562 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: stuff up if they have to. But for the most part, 563 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: the two players involved will be able to diffuse that. 564 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: I hope. So thank you, thank you, Marco. And by 565 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: the way, I'll say this too, like Davids Webb always 566 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: answered those questions pretty well, you don't. And by the way, 567 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: I'll say this too. And I don't think this gets 568 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: said enough because I know a lot of people have 569 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: negative opinions of him because of his time with the 570 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 1: other team here. I thought, when he was here in 571 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: the building, as awkward of a situation as it was, 572 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: I thought Gino Smith handled that whole thing with Eli 573 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: really really well. I think he answered questions really well. 574 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: I thought I thought he handled that like a pro. 575 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: A couple of things he's tweeted since then I could 576 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: live without. But I think while he was here in 577 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: the building dealing with it, I think he dealt with 578 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: that controversion and the way he answered questions pretty well, 579 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: I'll let you go to the next goal. Two oh 580 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: one four five one three. Let's go to Christian and 581 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: New York Christians up next, say Christian. Hey, guys, I 582 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about the quarterbacks going into this year, 583 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: but I wanted to mention uh DeAndre Baker first because 584 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: I think his attitude is like very different than most 585 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: guys that he's bringing in. But I really don't mind 586 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: it because I think he was willing to, you know, 587 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: get a guy that's a little more uh feisty and 588 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: might not be exactly a choir boy, but because he 589 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: is so Christian Christian, I want to interrupt you for 590 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: a second. There is an idea out there that Dave 591 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: Gutman's drafting players simply because they're good people. It's the 592 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: biggest load of garbage I've ever heard. He drafts him 593 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: because they're good football players. If they happen to check 594 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: that other box, that's great, But if they're not really 595 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: good football players, he's not going to pick them. Well, 596 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: I I think he is putting the talent first two, 597 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: but I think he is making them check that box. Also, Um, 598 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think that there's I think 599 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: that's an added box. It is part of the evaluation, 600 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: but it is a minor part of the evalue. Christian. 601 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: Let me just add one thing here, and I think 602 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: it's very important until you meet these guys. And I'm 603 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: going to assume that you haven't met any of the 604 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: giants draft picks in person. For you to make any 605 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: assumptions about what kind of people they are would be 606 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: really wrong for you to do. You know, honestly, I've 607 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: met these guys. I've talked to these guys. I can 608 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: tell you they're all good guys. And I can tell 609 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: you that DeAndre Baker does have a cornerbacks mentality, and 610 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: that is throw the ball to me. Come on, I 611 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: dare you to throw the ball at me because I'm 612 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna make a play. And you know what, 613 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: that's good. I don't. I don't see the negative in that. No, 614 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: I know, I mean, I like that, But I know 615 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: he had some questionable visits with some teams. I mean, 616 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: there's not a ton of details that came out about him, 617 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: but uh, there are definitely teams that you know had 618 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: some questions, you know, the one, the one, the one 619 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: thing I heard from about him, Christian is that he 620 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: came out and apparently when he showed up then the combine, 621 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: he did not do a lot of the preparation for 622 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: maybe some of the physical events that a lot of 623 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: other guys that he kind of came in and kind 624 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: of wung it a little bit, and I think that 625 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: maybe rubbed some teams the wrong way. Yeah, all I'm 626 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: gonna say is it's really best to gauge your opinions 627 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: about somebody off of a firsthand account. My personal I 628 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: witnessed firsthand account of this guy to this point does 629 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: not indicate anything of what you're trying to suggest about 630 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: him being anything less than a good guy. Saying that 631 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: he I think that he has uh you know, I 632 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: know he did have a bad visit with a team, 633 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: and uh, I think he doesn't have quite as high 634 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: of characters most of the guys. They Again, you're making 635 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: assumptions that I'm not I'm not willing to go there 636 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: until I know the guy better. I'm sorry, that's that's 637 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: just wrong to do, all right. Uh Well, yeah, that's 638 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: that's fair. But um, you know, I was mainly calling 639 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,719 Speaker 1: about the quarterbacks and last year, Uh, Sherman really wanted 640 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: a veteran backup on the team, and uh, that kind 641 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: of makes a tricky situation this year with law Letta 642 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: because it sounds like he wouldn't want Jones and law 643 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: Letta to back up Eli because there's not much experience there. So, uh, 644 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they expect just to hire Floor with 645 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: such a high draft pick, and they're okay with Jones 646 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: and law Letta, but you know, if if they feel 647 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: like they got to move on from law Letta, I 648 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: hope they get something back. Competition Christian. That's what it's 649 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: gonna be. If Jones can prove he can be the backup, 650 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: that's great. I don't think there's a guarantee that's going 651 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: to be the case. I think it's gonna be a 652 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: wait and see how the guys developed type of situation. Um, 653 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe lo lett can prove that that 654 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: that that he's good enough to any absorbed enough last 655 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: year to be that guy too, So I think that'll 656 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: be a competition. I do think they like with Tanny 657 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: Brains is the veteran. I think he's almost like a 658 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: second quarterback coach and in a lot of ways in 659 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: that room too. So we'll we'll wait and see. That'll 660 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: be a very much something that will be decided over 661 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: the course of the summer. And thanks for the call, Christian, 662 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Yeah, John, you know, um, I think 663 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: you know. My feeling going into this offseason was that 664 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: they would probably even if they didn't draft a quarterback, 665 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: they would probably bring in someone else for competition anyway. 666 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: And as far as I'm concerned, going in, Eli Manning 667 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: and now Daniel Jones are the only two quarterbacks who 668 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: are guaranteed spots on his roster. I think Tanny has 669 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: to compete. I think lo Letta has to compete. And 670 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: that's not a knock on those guys, it's simply a 671 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: matter of fact. It's reality. We think the Giants might 672 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: keep three this year, but what if they decided they 673 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: are gonna keep too. I don't think that's gonna happen. 674 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: But if they decide to only keep two, guess what 675 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: Jones is number two? Baby Well Live is presented by 676 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: Corps Light one of the things on the quarterbacks very 677 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: quickly before we get to Pete Washington Heights. Pete, you'll 678 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: be up in about a minute here. In terms of 679 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: how they try to usher Jones in this year. And 680 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: this is how I look at it. There, Eli Manning, 681 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: if he does two things, he's gonna keep Daniel Jones 682 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: off the field, if he plays well and the team 683 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: win games. And if as long as they're in it mathematically, 684 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: and Eli Manning is playing well bar a fourth quarter blowout, 685 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: and they want to give Jones some snaps just for 686 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: the sake of getting him snaps. Man He's gonna play once. 687 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: If they become eliminated from playoff contention, then who knows, 688 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: maybe we'll see Jones in there. Even if Eli is 689 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: playing well a little bit, they get the guys some run, 690 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: get him some reps. But it's gonna be the termed 691 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: by how the team performs and how the quarterback performs. 692 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: And it's really that simple. When I was on with 693 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: Joe and Evan on the fan the other day, they 694 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: came up with a number out of Nevada that said, 695 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: over or under Daniel Jones plays or makes seven and 696 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: a half starts a season. That's an easy under one 697 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: for me. And I said, give me five million on 698 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: the under, and and and Evan laughed, and I said, 699 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: that's all right. Ben a goal on me the money 700 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: and she was like, no, no, no, pull, that's not happening. 701 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: I don't help that. Uh you know, come on, really, 702 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: that's a high number. I thought, yeah, that's a high number. 703 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: That's the number they gave me and they asked me 704 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: for it, and I said, well, I'm going under. Then 705 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: that's not that's not hard. Yeah. If I was creating 706 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: that question for our over under competition, you would probably 707 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: say something like three. I would put two and a 708 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: half or three and a half. I figured that that's 709 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: why I would put it. And then that's I think 710 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: it gets tricky there. Well, only because you don't know 711 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: exactly a what Hell's help is going to be, right, 712 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I don't don't need to see 713 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: him getting sacked forty five times again this year. He's 714 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: also never missed a game because any and then the 715 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: other thing is too you just don't know how the 716 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 1: division is going to shake out. Now you don't exactly 717 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: I mean, what if or the wild card for that matter, 718 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: what if either the john Ants are in the playoffs 719 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: are out of the playoffs with two weeks left in 720 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: the season, It's absolutely possible that Daniel Jones could get 721 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: could get rotten Jerry could uh and so in this 722 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: division right now, in my opinion, is just so great. 723 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't handicap it. I can't. I just can't. 724 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: Five on three, Pete and Washington Heights as promised. Pete, 725 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: what's up? How are you doing? Guys? Thanks for taking 726 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: the call. I just wanna first of all, pull great 727 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: invitation of job and Ingle. By the way, no, no, 728 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: that was durrible kill. Once in my life, the Jets 729 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: would have Super Bowl. All right, guys, I want to 730 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: go against the media narrative and in favor of the 731 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: ghettoman narrative here with the six pick. First of all, 732 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: if you look at our our second round and first 733 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: round picks, they're both better than Pittsburgh. So even if 734 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: it's supposedly happened after six, we should have got the 735 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: ten from them because we more to offer time out. 736 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: What are you talking about with Pittsburgh? I'm lost? Yeah, 737 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: where are you going? Denver? I'm sorry, Denver traded out 738 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: of ten Pittsburgh? Okay, okay. And and the narrative is 739 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: that that that our quarterback Jones, you know, was going 740 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: to be available, la blah blah blah. I think Edelman 741 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: knew that he wasn't going to be available because it 742 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: was at six that he spoke with Denver. When we 743 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: had six and we had both Alan and Jones available. 744 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: That's when he called Denver, and you know, people have relationships. 745 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: Maybe always said to him, you know, you better pick 746 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: the quarterback because if you picked the pass rusher, I'm 747 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: not gonna let you have all right, because I liked 748 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: the quarter time out a second time out a second 749 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: Did you understand it to be that way? I did 750 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: not know, because Giants, I think Michael Eisen on giants 751 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: dot Com actually reported that they talked after the Giants 752 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: selected corrects about the Giants moving up. I believe your 753 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: timeline is erroneous. Sorry, yeah, but let me ask you. 754 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: Why would after the Giants selected, and the Giants had 755 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 1: a better offer than Pittsburgh. They didn't had sevent versus 756 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: twenty and thirty seven verses fifty two in the second round. Yes, 757 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: he said, nova time out Nova pete. Pittsburgh included up 758 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: draft picking next season, they included round pick. Giants weren't 759 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: doing that. The Giants were not looking to trade anything 760 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: out of the Giants. We're going to give him better 761 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: picks in the first and second round, but not the 762 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: not the pick next year. No, we don't know that 763 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: for a fact. But but you you brought up that 764 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 1: the two picks in this year's draft or superior. You're 765 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: correct about that. But Pittsburgh offered an additional pick in 766 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: next year's draft, which, again I don't know this for 767 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: a fact, but my guests would be that's what made 768 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: their offer better. Yeah, Dad Gettlman had been asked before 769 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: the draft if he was willing to deal something from twenty, 770 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: if he had to move up in this Dry said maybe, 771 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: and he was like maybe, But I didn't get the 772 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: impression he was too anxious to do that. He's a 773 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: guy who really values his picks. He does not like 774 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 1: in fact, what did he say? What was this one thing? 775 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: He said, I don't like to push her, kick the 776 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 1: can down, kick the can down the road? Which which which? 777 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: In which? What he was using that phrase to describe 778 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: trading future draft picks. He doesn't like to do it? Right, No, 779 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: I understand that. My only point is that he may 780 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: have had an inkling that that um Elway indeed did 781 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones, and that's why Elway maybe you know 782 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't make the trade. And that's why I think he 783 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 1: maybe did it when the Giant. I think I think 784 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: the media maybe getting it wrong. I'll just say this 785 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: very quickly. Um, the Giants in those conversations for ten, 786 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily about a quarterback there, and I'll just 787 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: leave it at that. No, I know, it wasn't about 788 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: a quarterback. No, it was about the defensive player absolutely well, 789 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: because they had already taken Jones at six. Defensive player 790 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: was going to be next. So that's what Elway was 791 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: doing at ten with Jones is irrelevant because they talked 792 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: to Denver about the pick after they already secured Jones, right, Um, 793 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: you know, And that's my theory. My theory is that 794 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: that's not the case. And that's how that that's how 795 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 1: he knows Denver was the other team. Here's here's here's 796 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: the problem. Here's the problem. Here's the problem with what 797 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: you're saying. Dave Gettelman had Michael Eisen, He allowed him 798 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: in the room to write a chronology of how things 799 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: went down, which you can read on Giants dot com. 800 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 1: You also can go back and read Peter King's account. 801 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: He was with Elway in Denver's draft room, and l 802 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: Way told him the Giants have have have called us 803 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: and asked us about number ten. Everything jibs. So do 804 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: you for you to assume that the timeline is inaccurate? 805 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: I think is erroneous on your pink. Given that Eisen 806 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: was in the room and the Giants front office approved 807 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 1: that he got printed, something tells me it's probably accurate. 808 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's not smoking mirrors here. You're 809 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: you're you're thinking, is that you know the Giants maybe 810 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: because it was like thirty seven to fifty two in 811 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: the second round the picks, and then seventeen twenty even 812 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: with those picks, and if the Giants threw in one 813 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: of their later picks from this year, you don't think 814 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: we would have given it up. Well, maybe maybe the 815 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,439 Speaker 1: Giants were willing to throw in another later pick. Pete, 816 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: thanks for the call. I honestly don't know. I don't 817 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: know what the exact negotiation. Yeah, I don't know. Um, 818 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: we're guessing, and my guess is that what's set the 819 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: Steelers offer a part was that they were willing to 820 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: offer a pick from next year's draft. That's my guests, 821 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: it's a likely scenario. I have no idea if it's 822 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: true or not, but that would be my thought in 823 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: terms of what they were looking at for the trade 824 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: off there. That's an educated guest, and my guest the 825 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: Giants liked some players that were falling down past where 826 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: they thought they should have fallen, and they said, oh wow, 827 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: we can get this guy attend. Maybe we can go 828 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: talk about and make it happen. So in any event, 829 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, it's it's so like water 830 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: under the bridge for me right now. Honestly, the draft 831 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: is so far in my rear view mirror. I'm just 832 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: interested in seeing what the guys do as they get 833 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: to uh mini camp and training camp and then the season, 834 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: and folks, look, the bottom line is that there's no 835 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: way to know whether Jones is gonna be there at 836 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: seventeen or not. Geentleman did not think he was going 837 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: to be um and he had to operate that way. 838 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: And if you don't know for sure, you have to 839 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: make sure you get the quarterback that you love. And 840 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: by the way, there's also a chance that after the fact, 841 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 1: a couple of GM sent him a Texas At all point, David, 842 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: you know you're real lucky this. You know, he didn't 843 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: give that answer on Thursday night after they made the pick. 844 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: By the way, remember that, so maybe a couple of 845 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: gms between one and seventeen. Seven Texas was like, you know, 846 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: nobody knew we were thinking about doing this, but Dave, 847 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: good thing that you picked him there because there's no 848 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: way he was gonna be You know, these guys are friends, 849 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: They talk to each other, that's what happens. So I 850 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: have no idea what the case might be. What I 851 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: do know is that there's no way anyone knows if 852 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: he was going to be there at seventeen. So if 853 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: you liked the quarterback that much at six and the 854 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,959 Speaker 1: Giants had him graded that high on their board, that's 855 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 1: where you picked him. I'll give you one final thought, John, 856 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,240 Speaker 1: after the fact. I didn't know this before the fact. 857 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: I was told three days after the draft from someone 858 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: outside the building with absolutely no connection or interest to 859 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: the Giants whatsoever. The dude is totally independent, said to me, 860 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: I know for a fact he was not going to 861 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: be there at seventeen because I know one team for 862 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: sure that was going to take him before seventeen, and 863 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go anywhere further with that, because it's 864 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: not my business to do it. Jim Jim Naggy told 865 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: us that he was gonna be there. David told me. 866 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: I had people before the draft say they didn't think 867 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: he was going to get to the Giants in seventeen. 868 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: So the bottom is like nobody knows because there is 869 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: no earth too. And it's by the way, it's not 870 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: relevant now it's done. There is no earth to like 871 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: they had in the Avengers end game, where you have 872 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: a different series of events happened and you're gonna know 873 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: exactly what would it went down. You don't know that. 874 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: So that's where we're at, folks, And let's just see 875 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 1: how the kid plays. That's what matters now. Scott in 876 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: New Mexico is up next, Scotty do how are you? Hi? Guys? 877 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 1: Are you doing today? Doing well? Alight? Two for you? 878 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 1: You sort of addressed it already. I was curious about 879 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: if anybody impressed of the undrafted free agents in them 880 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: in Echamp. But I also have another question, Uh, if 881 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: you had to pick out a group that still needs work, 882 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: and what I mean by that is if you had 883 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: to pick out one specific group like a linebacking corps 884 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: or the defensive line. Which group needs the most work? 885 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: In other words, which one is the most deficient on 886 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: the Giants right now? And whatever group you pick. I 887 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: was just curious as to your rationalist to why that 888 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: would need the most. Are you talking like depth at 889 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: those groups, Scott, or like overall, like high end? Well? 890 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: I think those are I think those are two separate questions. Um, 891 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: it's a good question though. I mean, they have so 892 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: many corners now they can maybe use a little bit 893 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: more depth at safety depending on how you look at 894 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: Julian love Um wide receivers, they have depth. Look, high end, 895 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 1: you still don't have that established. You know, twelve sacked 896 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: pass rushers. Talking about high end starting you're looking at that. 897 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: You're gonna write tackle in terms of high end starting deal. Um, 898 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: how about death wives, Paul? Where do you think right now? 899 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,720 Speaker 1: The Giants probably could still use a little bit more depth. 900 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: There's no question it's gonna be on the offensive line 901 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be on the defensive line. I don't 902 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: think they have enough of proven guys. They've got bodies 903 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: at a number of positions, but where are the proven guys, 904 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: for example, at safety? Right. We think Julian Love could 905 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: very easily compete in maybe but but but Chandler is 906 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 1: very unproven. He had a couple of coffee last year 907 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 1: in the last month of the season, but he's kind 908 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: of unproven in the spot. Julian Love is unproven in 909 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 1: the spot. So who were the proven safeties behind Bathet 910 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 1: and Peppers and who? Nobody? Right? Absolutely so, So there 911 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: are positions like that at defensive end. You could talk 912 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 1: that way inside linebackers, the same inside linebackers stoopar and 913 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,800 Speaker 1: and uh and Tray and Connolly and Davis, Hey, Davis, 914 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: Hey Davis. I mean these guys, there's not exactly a 915 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: huge resume, you know on these guys tables that say 916 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: oh they're bringing this. The Giants have a lot of 917 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: bodies and a lot of spots, and a bunch of 918 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: those depth chart guys are kind of unproven. But the 919 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: spot to me that is as thin as tissue paper 920 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: is the right tackle spot that that to me is 921 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 1: still the obvious one that I don't know if they 922 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 1: have the answers there are we sure that Chad Wheeler 923 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 1: hasn't improved enough to still reclaim the starting position yet 924 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: or maybe imp at this point. Oh yeah, I mean Scott. 925 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: We haven't seen Chad wheel to play football since January 926 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: and December, just like you, so we have both wait 927 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: and see. Here's the safe way to say it. Offensive 928 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,800 Speaker 1: tackle is very thin. And when you say it that way, okay, 929 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 1: even if Chad Wheeler is good enough to start, who 930 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 1: who's your swing guy? I have no idea and you 931 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: better have an answer for who number three is. Grego's 932 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: not here. Grego's not here, and how and and p 933 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: O is not a tackle and neither was Greco. By 934 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: the way, no offensive tackle would probably be the position. 935 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: I agree with that that that's clean. Next thing, right, well, 936 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,399 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It was just curious to good stuff. 937 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: Appreciate the call. It's all presented by Corps Light. We'll 938 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 1: take a two or three more calls before we take 939 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: good by. I's gonna Mike and Fort Myers. Who's up next? Hey? Mike? Hey, guys, 940 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: you started to cover one of the questions I was 941 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: going to ask. But I've seen this trailer on some 942 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: of the sports shows where it says that the fifth 943 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 1: year option is declined and they list some players. Hey, 944 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: can you explain what that means? B are there any 945 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,280 Speaker 1: opportunities there for the Giants to pick up qualified players. Basically, 946 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: what that means when you draft a player in the 947 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: first round of the draft, you have them on a 948 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 1: four year contract, but the team has a fifth year 949 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: option on those players. Depending on where they're drafted determines 950 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: what the salary amounts on that fifth year option is. 951 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: So the team must decide before the player plays in 952 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 1: their fourth season whether or not they're going to pick 953 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: up the fifth year option. So you might have saw 954 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: that the Titans declined Jack Conklin's fifth year option, the 955 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,399 Speaker 1: Saints declined Eli Apple's fifth year option. Well, those guys 956 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: are heading into the fourth year of their career, so 957 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 1: they're still going to play their fourth year with those 958 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: teams now, but they will now become an unrestricted free 959 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 1: agent after their fourth year instead of playing under the 960 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: fifth year option of their rookie deal, which the team 961 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: has an option as to whether or not they want 962 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: to activate it. Very good, Hey, I want to pick 963 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: up and from the previous question, we've heard of that 964 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:53,800 Speaker 1: guards can go to a training event off off campus 965 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 1: and that there are there are people that will train, 966 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, guards how to fight in a phone booth. 967 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 1: Is there any such schools for right tackles? Sure? Yeah, yeah, Mike, 968 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: I mean offensive line schools for all the positions. Uh la. 969 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: Charles Bentley has one of those correct exos runs all 970 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: sorts of defensive line camps. So yeah, there are all 971 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,720 Speaker 1: sorts of camps out there and facilities that do training 972 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: for all sorts of positions. They'll hire former NFL position 973 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 1: coaches or former NFL lineman to come in and kind 974 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: of helped train the guys in that respect. And I 975 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 1: should add, by the way, Chad Wheeler has busted his 976 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 1: butt this offseason, Yeah, I should add that, because he 977 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 1: has worked extremely hard to try to improve. And I 978 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: think I saw him the other day and I said, Chad, 979 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: I think you got bigger in bulky or up top 980 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,439 Speaker 1: a little wider. He looks like he put on some 981 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: some strength and some muscle. What ah. He kind of shucks. 982 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: You know. He's a very humble guy, very very humble guy, 983 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: and and doesn't really say a whole lot, but he's 984 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: a pleasant fellow, and I know he has worked very 985 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: very hard, and quite honestly, I think he understands the 986 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 1: competition is it's right there in front of them, and 987 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 1: we'll see if it translates when he gets on the field. Yeah, 988 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,399 Speaker 1: but you don't know if Wheeler has gone to any 989 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: one of those schools. I do not know that technique. 990 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: I do not know. I don't know that either. Okay. 991 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 1: So the thing to look for, I guess in the 992 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: coming six to ten weeks is if any right tackle 993 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: prospects come out from training camps or whatever. Yeah. That, 994 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 1: and there are also some veterans out there, Mike like, 995 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: for example, a guy that David Gettlan mentioned that at 996 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 1: his last press conference. Mike Gramer's who he's familiar with 997 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: from Carolina. Pat Shermer's familiar with from Minnesota. He's a 998 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 1: right tackle. If he can rehab that back injury and 999 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: he can pass the physical, he's someone that could be 1000 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,760 Speaker 1: an option down the road to what what's the option? 1001 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: What's the probability of people who play a tackle position 1002 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:55,919 Speaker 1: getting their back one shape and to play sixteen games? 1003 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: To me, it seems like that's more hopeful than realism. 1004 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,760 Speaker 1: Many thanks back problems during their career and and wind 1005 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: up playing many more years after that. I mean, it's 1006 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: it's a case by case basis. I have no idea, 1007 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 1: what the details of the injury were. It's impossible to know. 1008 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 1: Just to go over the roster as of this morning. 1009 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 1: John Victor Silaco was the guy who was actually a 1010 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 1: rookie minicamp right, Yeah, Brian is still on the roster. 1011 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: Picked him up from the Lions practice squad last year. 1012 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 1: He's like six eight and a half, right, he's big, big, 1013 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 1: big George the seventh round pick out of Kentucky. Uh, 1014 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: he is. He is a tackle who was listed on 1015 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:37,280 Speaker 1: the roster. And actually that is all they're actually listing 1016 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,919 Speaker 1: is tackles on the roster as we speak right now. 1017 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 1: So as you can tell, I'm not being insulting or 1018 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 1: disrespectful to any of them. The tackle spot is tissue 1019 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 1: paper thin to a one five on three Julian and Florida. Hey, Julian, Hey, guys, 1020 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: how you doing okay? Perfect? So I just wanted to 1021 00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: kind of go off with a statement here. I'm just 1022 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: gonna give you guys my opinion on something, and by 1023 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: any means that you want to cut in and let 1024 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: me know if I'm wrong or what not. But this 1025 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: is truly my opinion. And I was at a draft 1026 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 1: at a at a Giant's bar down here in Fort Lauderdale, 1027 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,240 Speaker 1: and I happened to be next to an older gentleman 1028 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,879 Speaker 1: that I had been talking to the whole time about 1029 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 1: the draft, I mean before it even started. We're having 1030 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 1: a couple of beers, and you know, he was talking 1031 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 1: about the old days, and when I'm very old school, 1032 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 1: reminded me a lot of you, PAULI um, just the 1033 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 1: old school mentality, not not because of his aggs, just 1034 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: because of his mentality and jo It's okay, Paul knows 1035 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 1: that he's old. It's fine. I get it, I get it, 1036 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 1: got it. So I mean, guys, when that pick happens, 1037 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,360 Speaker 1: every single Giant fan felt to the floor like oh 1038 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 1: my god, and including me, my mouth dropped. And I'm 1039 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,880 Speaker 1: looking at this gentleman and he's shaking his head up 1040 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 1: and down like yep, okay, and I'm like, can you 1041 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: believe that we didn't get Josh Allen. He goes this, 1042 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: this is the perfect pick for us, and I'm looking 1043 00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 1: at him and I'm like, you gotta explain yourself to 1044 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 1: what's going on, and he was like, this is the 1045 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 1: perfect New York fits. Now my buddy next to me 1046 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: is like, are you crazy, what are you talking about? 1047 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: We couldn't And then he goes, you gotta be from 1048 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: New York to understand why Gettleman made this pick. This 1049 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 1: guy has that personality that no matter what the media does, 1050 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 1: no matter what they say, he's got that personality that 1051 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: he can handle the New York media. He's like, I 1052 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 1: can just tell by looking at this kid, and I've 1053 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 1: heard rumors about this kid, and he's talented, and this 1054 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: is the type of guy that that Mari wants and 1055 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: Fish wants, and this is your franchise type of quarterback, 1056 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,839 Speaker 1: the guy that can handle the New York media and 1057 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 1: be talented at the same time. And when he said that, 1058 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 1: I kind of looked at him, like, you know what, 1059 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 1: He's right. This is like that Eli Manning type of personality. 1060 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,720 Speaker 1: This is that Derek Jeter type of personality, the guy 1061 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: that just doesn't budge to media. You already know. I mean, 1062 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 1: if anything could happen, but you can just tell this 1063 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 1: kid's a good kid, not gonna get in trouble. I mean, 1064 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: like I said, I'm just I'm not predicting the future, 1065 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: but you can just tell that's the personality that they wanted. 1066 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 1: If someone's going to leave your franchise at a quarterback. 1067 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 1: You want to have that type of well lead the 1068 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 1: franch in a New York market. That's the kind of 1069 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 1: guy you need. You know. If I may just kind 1070 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,280 Speaker 1: of build upon what you said a second ago, and 1071 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: I've said this ever since two thousand four, Philip Rivers 1072 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 1: would not have been good here. Ben Roethlisberger would not 1073 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: have been good here. Eli Manning was the right guy 1074 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,839 Speaker 1: for this team. Roethlisberger might be out of the lead. 1075 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: Big Ben was the right guy for Pittsburgh. Absolutely, Rivers 1076 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: was the right guy for San Diego. Guys all wound 1077 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 1: up where they were supposed to want exactly, And that's 1078 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 1: part of it. Do you guys see now I said 1079 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 1: that her mind the apol Well, it's it's look, I 1080 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: get it all right. You have to look at the 1081 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,799 Speaker 1: scouting report, You have to look at the tape. That's 1082 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: where you base your decisions off of. But then you 1083 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 1: have to go to the other part of the personnel 1084 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 1: folder and that other page or the other side of 1085 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: the folder that says, Okay, can we check work ethic, 1086 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 1: can we check demeanor, can we check poison handling the media? 1087 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,399 Speaker 1: Can we check stay out? Of trouble. Can we check 1088 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 1: good character? Can we check good leadership skills? In the 1089 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: locker room? All those boxes are on the other side 1090 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: of the personnel pro profile folder, and it helps when 1091 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: you can check all those two. Now, the most important 1092 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,919 Speaker 1: part of it is that Rivers, Manning, and Roethlisberger could 1093 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,479 Speaker 1: all play at a really high level. Where you find 1094 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 1: out now, of course, with this group, whether or not 1095 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,359 Speaker 1: they're up to that level in terms of playability. Yep. 1096 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm just so happy I was next to that gentleman guys, 1097 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 1: because I think if I'm you know, I'm twenty years old, 1098 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 1: I was around a bunch of people my age and 1099 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 1: older gentleman whatnot. But the guy made it like he 1100 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 1: made it very clear for me and made me understand, 1101 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 1: like that's what you need now if you really think 1102 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: about it, Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald, all those guys just 1103 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 1: like you guys are comparing Eli, I mean, Ben Roethlisberger 1104 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 1: and Philip Bird. I don't think they can last in 1105 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 1: the New York media. I don't think Baker Maysield could 1106 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 1: have laughed in the New York media. He was one apart, 1107 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'm just going paste off his personality. 1108 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: You know, the way he is. This is the guy. 1109 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: This is the guy. And I'm going to leave off 1110 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: with one last thing. Guys. I always, I feel like 1111 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 1: I always call you in to tell you I always 1112 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:12,840 Speaker 1: run into a football player. I don't know if you 1113 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: guys remember anyfo or not, but I told you, guys, 1114 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 1: I ran into Rob Cockrail about a year ago at 1115 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 1: a diner and then I spoke to him a little bit. 1116 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 1: And then last year I ran into Rashad Jennings, who 1117 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,880 Speaker 1: I had the most amazing conversation with about thirty minutes. 1118 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 1: He was the coolest guy, literally talk to me about everything, 1119 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 1: and I mean it's easy to do. Yeah, he's a 1120 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: he's a good dude man. I mean like he was. 1121 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 1: He made it. He didn't seem like he was a 1122 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 1: football player. Just seemed like a normal dude. But I 1123 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 1: was in public. It's a supermarket down here, and now 1124 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 1: I was in the sub line and standing right in 1125 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 1: front of me, not too tall, was Michael Vick and 1126 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: I didn't want to approach him because he seemed like 1127 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 1: you were just getting a sandwich or whatnot. And then 1128 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 1: he moved to the side, and you know, we kind 1129 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,239 Speaker 1: of locked guys. For a second. I looked at him, 1130 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 1: he looked at me, and I just had to say it. 1131 00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm a big fan man. He goes, 1132 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: thank you, and I was like, yeah, I mean, what 1133 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 1: did you think about the draft? Like, I just wanted 1134 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,320 Speaker 1: to start a conversation with him. He was like it 1135 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: was crazy, but it was good. You know. He's like 1136 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 1: he's like a lot of defense. And I was like, yeah, 1137 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,319 Speaker 1: I'm a Giants fan man. And then he looked at 1138 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 1: me and goes, I like Jones, And I said, interested 1139 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,240 Speaker 1: in Hapkins. I said that, I said, better than Hapkins. 1140 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: He looked at me again and said, I like Jones. 1141 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,359 Speaker 1: So I wanted to leave that off with you guys. 1142 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 1: That's interesting. Thank you, Julian. It's funny you can just 1143 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 1: randomly get these little nuggets sometimes from people. You know. 1144 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 1: The funny thing you know, and that's people. I don't 1145 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 1: think think about this a lot, but you know, Jones 1146 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 1: better better athlete than people give him credit for going 1147 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 1: back to the eye like Jones thing from Vic and 1148 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 1: Vic obviously was was was a better athlete than he 1149 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 1: was a quarterback. I think, you know, I think um 1150 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray checks both boxes. Unbelievable athlete, and he can 1151 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 1: throw the ball with extreme accuracy. And Russell Wilson's in 1152 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: that same category unbelievable athlete, but he can accurately throw 1153 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 1: the ball with with anybody on the planet. So it's interesting. 1154 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 1: And look, that's the thing, guys, quarterback evaluation. Quarterback play 1155 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: is is affected so much by what happens around you 1156 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 1: and the players around you in the scheme around you, 1157 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 1: that you know, predicting what they're gonna do on the 1158 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,440 Speaker 1: next level can be very, very tough. This is one 1159 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,919 Speaker 1: area where the Eli Manning stereotype hurts Daniel Jones. Correct. Yeah, 1160 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: that's right, because we all know Eli to be a 1161 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: statue in the pocket and and has some escapability back there, 1162 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 1: but not really what you would call mobile. He think 1163 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 1: he is pocket mobility. Correct. Now, when people compare Jones 1164 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 1: to him all the time, the immediate thought is, okay, 1165 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: pocket passer, all the other things that we said before, 1166 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 1: but oh yeah, by the way, he's not going to 1167 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 1: escape the pass rush. Well, that's really unfair to Daniel 1168 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 1: Jones because, as we have seen many times on tape 1169 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 1: and in person, Daniel Jones can roll out and by 1170 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 1: the way, I should add this to the beginning. We 1171 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 1: kind of wrap up our show. Daniel Jones also did 1172 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 1: a you throws while he was on the move and 1173 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 1: had no problem planting the foot, getting the balance down 1174 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 1: and making an accurate throw while he was on the rollout. 1175 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 1: And you know that's a good thing too. He had 1176 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: to sixty plus the yard runs in North Carolina. Yeah, hellies, 1177 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 1: not running for sixty yards. No, maybe maybe over the 1178 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 1: course of the whole year. You're gonna combine him together 1179 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 1: or or on the treadmill. That's true, all right for 1180 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: called Tino, I'm John Smell. That's Big boot kickoff live 1181 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 1: for this Monday. Enjoy the rest of your day. We'll 1182 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. We're back in noon Audios.