Speaker 1: Oh, if you remember Grandma wars on this show, then
Speaker 1: you are in for a treat today. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Second Date Podcast.
Speaker 2: We've got your update update.
Speaker 1: That's where we check in with a couple that was
Speaker 1: on our show and actually win out again after being
Speaker 1: on a second date and see what's happened since. So
Speaker 1: if you remember how this works, we play the original,
Speaker 1: so everybody's up to speed.
Speaker 2: And then on part three, I know you gotta listen
Speaker 2: to the commercials or commercial get for.
Speaker 1: Them, we get them back on the phone. Yes, so
Speaker 1: you definitely want to stay around for the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And first, of course comments.
Speaker 2: Ellen for Mike said, no offense to anyone.
Speaker 1: But my favorite nickname that Jeffrey used for Brook was
Speaker 1: money bags Brook.
Speaker 2: My brother I loved it so much that we call each.
Speaker 3: Other that now money bags Brook or just money bags
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 2: I hope money bugs Brooke.
Speaker 4: Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it all right, your second
Speaker 2: date starts right now.
Speaker 3: When you talk about typical red flag moments that ruin
Speaker 3: first dates, normally we hear about a disagreement over who
Speaker 3: pays the bill. Yeah, somebody lied in their profile about
Speaker 3: their age, height or marital status or their date's mom
Speaker 3: showed up unexpectedly and was way hotter and more fun
Speaker 3: than her daughter ever.
Speaker 2: Could be my worst nightmare.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this may be the only time the red
Speaker 3: flag involved a fight over a casserole recipe. Who never
Speaker 3: thought so much drama could come from one old family meal,
Speaker 3: But it's led us to this where the couples decided
Speaker 3: to come back on our show for a special second
Speaker 3: date update update. We'll do it.
Speaker 5: Next Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning, Second date Updates.
Speaker 3: What are the percentages of how people meet when they
Speaker 3: come to us it's Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 2: I'd say.
Speaker 4: Dating apps.
Speaker 3: I think a couple of years ago that was up
Speaker 3: to like ninety, but lately people have been starting to
Speaker 3: grow tired of that. They're finding new ways to connect,
Speaker 3: and you hear about more people meeting at run clubs
Speaker 3: and yoga classes. One couple even met at the dentist's
Speaker 3: office in the lobby when they were both high on
Speaker 3: nitros waiting for the rides to take them home.
Speaker 6: Maybe just your personal story, Yeah, I'm still sexy and
Speaker 6: worth mentioning, But we don't get a lot of folks
Speaker 6: on this segment who already knew each other for years
Speaker 6: before they ever went out on a date.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know they'd be comfortable enough to like
Speaker 2: check in and see what was going on.
Speaker 3: That's what you think. But we're doing it today with
Speaker 3: our listener, Jillian. So, Jillian, welcome to the show.
Speaker 7: Hi, thank you for taking a call.
Speaker 1: I'm like, so, like, you got ghosted by someone who
Speaker 1: is your friend?
Speaker 3: Like, hell, that makes it worse.
Speaker 4: How is how long were they were your friend for?
Speaker 7: So Thomas and I have known each other for almost
Speaker 7: twenty years.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, how how do you guys know each other?
Speaker 7: So we grew up in a say, neighborhood. He could
Speaker 7: be hung out together all the time, you know, the
Speaker 7: barbecues and all that.
Speaker 2: Oh that's like really interwoven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, was he your first kiss ever as as a
Speaker 3: kid growing up.
Speaker 7: No, he did ask me out, like multiple times, like
Speaker 7: over the years he'd asked me out, and I said no,
Speaker 7: not because I don't like him, but just because I
Speaker 7: thought it might be awkward for our families, you know, Like, yeah,
Speaker 7: I didn't want to get.
Speaker 4: Weird families get that close.
Speaker 3: I had somebody who I thought was my cousin my
Speaker 3: whole life and like literally like five ten years ago,
Speaker 3: our parents were like, that's not your cousin, a good
Speaker 3: family friend. I'm like, wait, marias.
Speaker 7: Not my cousin.
Speaker 8: I just.
Speaker 7: Grow up to.
Speaker 2: I mean they feel like blood like you on that one.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: So he was trying for it and you kept shooting
Speaker 3: him down for years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what changed?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 7: I saw him a couple of weeks ago and I
Speaker 7: picnic my family was hosting. It has been a while
Speaker 7: since I've seen him, and I'm just gonna lie. He
Speaker 7: looked really good, Thomas, and that.
Speaker 4: Changed your mind?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was like, forget weird, let's just go for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, so wait, how did you guys turn it
Speaker 1: into a romantic date though?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 7: I hit him up. I hit him up and I
Speaker 7: was just like, hey, you want to meet up hang out?
Speaker 7: And he kind of freaked up a little, you know,
Speaker 7: he was like, when are.
Speaker 8: You free let me cook your dinner.
Speaker 2: Wait, He's like, I waited.
Speaker 5: My whole life, get it all with you.
Speaker 2: That'd be weird.
Speaker 3: It's because you rejected him for so long. No wonder
Speaker 3: he was like totally caught back by it.
Speaker 1: Well, I thought he'd be confused that maybe they were
Speaker 1: just going to hang out as friends. But his response
Speaker 1: definitely doesn't sound like that.
Speaker 3: You said the word date, obviously, you like made it clear.
Speaker 7: I think it was more like in my energy and
Speaker 7: my tone, and that kind.
Speaker 3: Of made it like, Yeah, yeah, let's the eighteen hard
Speaker 3: emojis at the end of the text message and the
Speaker 3: kissing emoji.
Speaker 2: That wasn't the emoji she was using.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's cool.
Speaker 4: He wanted to cook for you. How did that go?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 8: It's great.
Speaker 7: We had a fabulous meal.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 7: I did the whole like hanging out in the kitchen
Speaker 7: watching him cook.
Speaker 8: It was like like a coconut curry cast role.
Speaker 1: Was there any awkwardness, because sometimes when you turn these
Speaker 1: friendships into something romantic like there can be I don't know,
Speaker 1: just funny moments, you know.
Speaker 7: To be honest, I was amazed at how comfortable it felt.
Speaker 8: The conversation was really good.
Speaker 7: We did end up like a little makeout session of it.
Speaker 1: Maybe his mind is just still blown and he hasn't
Speaker 1: like come to realize that this wasn't a dream.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did that really happen?
Speaker 4: What happened after the kiss?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 8: I did go home.
Speaker 5: I was a good girl, okay.
Speaker 7: But I got a couple of nice texts from him afterwards,
Speaker 7: you know, thanking me for coming over. But then I've
Speaker 7: texted him a few more times with just sort of
Speaker 7: like some invitations, what are you doing, want to grab
Speaker 7: a drink, et cetera. And he's been sending back the
Speaker 7: word busy.
Speaker 5: Oh, just the word yes.
Speaker 7: Like the total attitude and energy and all of it
Speaker 7: has just changed, and I have no idea what's going
Speaker 7: on with him?
Speaker 1: Do you think he's trying to play hard to get now?
Speaker 1: I think it's really bad at him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the script, so does him just texting the
Speaker 3: word busy to you over and over?
Speaker 4: Is that worse than just getting straight up ghosted.
Speaker 8: I don't think he.
Speaker 7: Ghosts, because, like our family is just king really weird.
Speaker 3: But just saying one word busy it implies that he's
Speaker 3: mad at you or something's wrong.
Speaker 2: Though funny busy.
Speaker 3: We're actually kind of busy right now. So we should
Speaker 3: probably move on to the second part of this call,
Speaker 3: where we reach out to Thomas for you and try
Speaker 3: to figure out what's going on.
Speaker 1: Well, he's honestly not super busy.
Speaker 4: It's really important.
Speaker 3: We'll find out where we do your second date update
Speaker 3: right after this.
Speaker 5: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning Second Date Update.
Speaker 1: You're in the middle of a second date update update,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna find out how the couple is doing
Speaker 1: right after you.
Speaker 2: Here part two.
Speaker 3: If you're just joining us, quick recap of Jillian's date
Speaker 3: with Thomas, a guy she's known for twenty years as
Speaker 3: a fan, family friend, and Thomas has actually asked her
Speaker 3: out several times before. She always would say no to
Speaker 3: him until he showed up to a family picnic looking
Speaker 3: like a total snack and she gave Tommy boy the
Speaker 3: old green light. After that if they wanted to sit
Speaker 3: down next to the potato salad. Oh yeah, it doesn't
Speaker 3: get any hotter. So eventually went over to his place.
Speaker 3: He cooked a meal for her.
Speaker 2: It's so sweet.
Speaker 4: It sounds like a lot.
Speaker 3: Of their family gatherings are kind of based around food,
Speaker 3: so that sounds normal. But since then he's only been
Speaker 3: replying to her text with one word busy.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 3: It's really cold and Jillian doesn't understand why, so we're
Speaker 3: trying to help figure that out.
Speaker 4: Jillian, I'm curious.
Speaker 3: Just going back to the date night, you said he
Speaker 3: cooked like a coconut curry thing for you When you
Speaker 3: bit into it, did you make a weird face or
Speaker 3: something that could have been taken the wrong way by
Speaker 3: him where maybe he got offended.
Speaker 7: No, No, there's no way. Like his coconut curry was amazing.
Speaker 7: I was like gushing if anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they had a makeout session afterwards.
Speaker 3: Well, I've made up with people angrily before when I've
Speaker 3: been mad at them.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you settle differences there. If you're a manager and
Speaker 4: Jeff asked for the manager, do not come.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going the way you think you're about to
Speaker 3: get a piece of my mind and my tongue.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that their first kiss was like crazy,
Speaker 2: because it's like twenty years in the baking. That's wild.
Speaker 3: You even said it all felt natural, the kids felt natural,
Speaker 3: the chemistry, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, there is potential in this if we can
Speaker 1: get hint weird keep going.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So let's just dial his number.
Speaker 3: Hopefully he's not too busy to pick up, and we'll
Speaker 3: see if we can get some answers.
Speaker 7: Out of him.
Speaker 3: But I'm dying right now.
Speaker 5: Hello.
Speaker 4: Hey is this Thomas?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Who's this?
Speaker 3: Hey man? We're a radio show. We're called Brook and
Speaker 3: Jeffrey in the morning. Hello, morning, Okay, we're just.
Speaker 4: Going to brag.
Speaker 1: We're yeah, we are very excited to talk to you.
Speaker 3: I am any We've actually we've heard a lot about
Speaker 3: you from someone who asked us to reach out to
Speaker 3: you named Jillian.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay. We know you know her for a
Speaker 3: long time, and this is a segment we do call
Speaker 3: the second Date Update, because we're trying to figure out
Speaker 3: why after you two hung out the other night and
Speaker 3: had dinner together. I mean, she feels like there should
Speaker 3: be another hangout session and you're not responding.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't really know if I'm comfortable talking about this.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I gotta Well, she had the date went
Speaker 4: so well? Did it not go well in your eyes?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's such a cute story you two.
Speaker 4: Yeah's been like in the making.
Speaker 1: Right twenty years you finally get out of the friend zone,
Speaker 1: which impresses every man.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I had.
Speaker 5: I was looking forward to it and it went really well.
Speaker 5: But well, there's just a violation of trust. Unfortunately.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, I.
Speaker 2: I don't think she's aware of that at all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she probably isn't.
Speaker 3: Well, if you are such good family friends going back
Speaker 3: twenty years. I feel like you should be comfortable enough
Speaker 3: to reach out and talk to her if there was
Speaker 3: an issue, a violation of some sort.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not sure like how malicious it was,
Speaker 5: but it's just it's complicated. Unfortunately, because of her, my
Speaker 5: grandmother won't talk to me.
Speaker 1: Right now, Wait, what what what does your grandma have
Speaker 1: to do with Jillian?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I didn't realize at the time, but she
Speaker 5: came over and I wanted to treat her right, right,
Speaker 5: So I busted out Grandma's secret recipe. You know. It's
Speaker 5: like this amazing dish that we always make for special
Speaker 5: occasions of coconut curry castle role right. And I guess
Speaker 5: while I was in the kitchen, cooking and doing my thing,
Speaker 5: at some point, I must have had my back turned
Speaker 5: and the family recipe book is just sitting there open.
Speaker 5: It's not supposed to be shared with anybody or anything
Speaker 5: like that. At some point she must have taken a
Speaker 5: photo of the recipe and forwarded it to her grandmother. No, yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know if she meant to steal it,
Speaker 5: like maliciously or for whatever reason, but picture of it
Speaker 5: it's now a thing where her grandmother is holding it
Speaker 5: over my grandmother's head. Now, my grandmother's mad at me.
Speaker 5: She's like, why would you share that? You know, she's hissed.
Speaker 4: A petty grandma, right going on.
Speaker 2: Dude, this feels not that petty to me though.
Speaker 1: Like you got you get a signature dish that you
Speaker 1: bring to every event, and everybody wants to know what
Speaker 1: it is, and you can't tell them because then they're
Speaker 1: going to bring it, and then you have to ask like,
Speaker 1: oh are you bringing it?
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring it. It's a whole thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I just I feel like at the very least
Speaker 5: you should have like said something or asked me before.
Speaker 5: But like now because of the way it went down
Speaker 5: and I didn't realize and then like you know, these
Speaker 5: these grandma's they they if they got claws.
Speaker 2: You know, did you tell her it was a secret
Speaker 2: recpee before the photo?
Speaker 5: Like she knew, Oh yeah, oh yeah, she knows it's
Speaker 5: my grandma's secret recipe aboutely. Okay, Now my grandmother's like,
Speaker 5: you let some temptress come in and see you.
Speaker 7: Okay, hello, hello, Hello, I'm here, Thomas.
Speaker 3: Okay, hell shoot, all right, yeah, Thomas. That's Jilly, and
Speaker 3: she's been waiting on the other line wanting.
Speaker 4: To talk to you.
Speaker 5: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, that's that's how this segment works. It's kind
Speaker 4: of sneaky, just like grandma.
Speaker 7: No. No, So listen, I didn't know I think it
Speaker 7: was going to be that big of a deal. I
Speaker 7: had no idea that my grandma was going to share
Speaker 7: it with your grandma like that and like literally taunt her.
Speaker 7: I did not know that she was going to do that.
Speaker 5: Well, you've met our grandmothers. They they are like, well,
Speaker 5: they got like old school beef with each other.
Speaker 7: Oh, but I'm thinking it was going to be more
Speaker 7: like like a funny thing. Like I didn't realize there
Speaker 7: was going to be like that, elevated emotionally.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's hilarious. Now she won't even like answer my
Speaker 5: phone calls.
Speaker 2: Oh that's bad.
Speaker 3: Well you don't really want to answer any grandma phone
Speaker 3: calls to be honest.
Speaker 2: That you should check the will because somebody may be
Speaker 2: written out.
Speaker 7: I mean, maybe I could talk to her.
Speaker 8: Maybe I can talk to her.
Speaker 5: Trust me, she does not want to talk to you.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, but.
Speaker 1: But I think there's only one way out of this,
Speaker 1: and that's Jullian. You have to go get your grandmother's
Speaker 1: secret recipe and.
Speaker 2: Give it to Thomas's grandmother. It's like tit for tat.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 8: Wait, wait, guys, I don't know. Maybe that's a little
Speaker 8: too far.
Speaker 4: Oh that's too far. But what you did was innocent.
Speaker 8: I think that might actually work.
Speaker 5: I think I know what recipe my grandmother would want.
Speaker 7: Really tell us, don't say it, please, Thomas, Please don't.
Speaker 5: Say it, Grandpa Jones bourbon pecan.
Speaker 3: Pie, pecan pie. That it would be a solution to
Speaker 3: balance things out and restore peace to the neighborhood, into
Speaker 3: the grandma versus.
Speaker 2: If you have to sneak it, I think it's worth it.
Speaker 2: Remember how hot Thomas got?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 4: You didn't hear that, Thomas. By the way, never mind.
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't believe we're doing this.
Speaker 3: But Jillian, is it possible that you'd be able to
Speaker 3: give one leash, one family recipe in order to make
Speaker 3: things good with Thomas?
Speaker 2: That's right, the peacan pie.
Speaker 8: It's possible.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: Just quick correction, it's not just the peacan pie recipe.
Speaker 5: It is a bourbon peacmpire.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: All right, that's the one we want a Jillian says
Speaker 3: she's willing to betray her own grandmother and give it
Speaker 3: up to you.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm going to have to ask her, and I'm
Speaker 8: going to take some work, but I'm willing to give
Speaker 8: it a try.
Speaker 3: Well, there you go. Will you say yes to a
Speaker 3: second date? Because if you do, we would pay for it.
Speaker 5: I mean, how can I say?
Speaker 7: I know?
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, all right.
Speaker 4: After that pecan pie.
Speaker 7: Curry. There you go.
Speaker 2: I'm hungry and turned on.
Speaker 4: That's normal.
Speaker 8: Thank you coming. I want you forward to it.
Speaker 2: Cute. You guys are gonna be cute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 5: And if you come over again, I got the rest
Speaker 5: of your book out. Just promise me you'll you'll ask
Speaker 5: me to close it or no? No wandering eyes?
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, you temptress.
Speaker 6: Rook and Jeffrey in the morning, No surprise.
Speaker 3: That was one of our most popular second date calls
Speaker 3: of last year. And we've got both Thomas and Jillian
Speaker 3: back on the phone with us today for any update updates.
Speaker 2: I didn't know if I wanted them or the Grandma's
Speaker 2: on the phone more.
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, we just got Tom and Jill today.
Speaker 3: But let's go right to Jillian and ask, because everybody
Speaker 3: wants to know. Did you betray your grandfather and give
Speaker 3: away his secret pie recipe to Thomas?
Speaker 8: Okay, so I didn't give him the recipes, but we
Speaker 8: did reach a compromise where I would bake the pie
Speaker 8: in front of him.
Speaker 2: I didn't tell her grandpa.
Speaker 3: But Thomas, you said you were cool with it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I was cool with that.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's seriously taking notes in the background. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean some guys just like to sit back and watch.
Speaker 3: I get that, and we we do love food drama,
Speaker 3: but I think we're more interested wondering are you two
Speaker 3: actually dating? Now?
Speaker 5: Well, there's so much competition between our families over the
Speaker 5: food stuff. We kind of agreed that if we went out,
Speaker 5: we needed to do it in secret and not tell anyone.
Speaker 3: Oh, you families couldn't know.
Speaker 2: Kind of like a Romeo and Juliet thing with a
Speaker 2: Waring family.
Speaker 3: It's kind of hot.
Speaker 2: Actually, wait, so were you secretly dating?
Speaker 8: Then? Well it has been six months and we are
Speaker 8: still going strong.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 8: We wanted to use this podcast to tell everybody to
Speaker 8: tell our families. Oh so we are officially together.
Speaker 1: Oh so you're either going to get congrats or angry texts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we're gonna play the podcast for our families separately,
Speaker 5: ok yeah itself.
Speaker 4: Yeah that makes sense. Okay, so now yeah, you're official.
Speaker 4: That must feel good.
Speaker 8: It does. Oh my gosh, it's so good to not
Speaker 8: be having to make up stories about how I have
Speaker 8: to go meet a friend for coffee or there was
Speaker 8: the one I was like, I have a job interview
Speaker 8: at seven pm.
Speaker 7: You know, it's just ridiculous, remember, But.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I feel like we need another update
Speaker 1: to see how the families react.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we'll see, you know, if they have
Speaker 5: a problem with it this, so it's gonna be okay.
Speaker 2: Just serve them really good food.
Speaker 1: The family recipes while they listen to the podcast.
Speaker 3: It's like a modern today Thanksgiving, we made peace. Well,
Speaker 3: it's cool to hear from you guys, and you're still together.
Speaker 3: Definitely keep us updated on your relationship, but we appreciate
Speaker 3: you coming back on the show. Abs, It's Brook and
Speaker 3: Jeffrey in the morning.