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My next guest, he's an a specu 36 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: gra graduate of Hampton University. He obtained his bachelor's degree 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: in two thousand four, master's degree in two thousand five, 38 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: followed by his PhD. He's a doctor, y'all. He has 39 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: dedicated his professional career to education, specializing in serving schools 40 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: and organizations that serve urban and culturally diverse communities. Teach, hustle, 41 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: inspire offers driven and passionate educators a transformatal a transformational 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: experience in a way that is fun, engaging in life changing. 43 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 1: Please work for the money made conversation for the very 44 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: first time, Dr Sean Woodley, thank you so so much 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: for having me. I'm excited to be here. I'm I 46 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: tell you that everything right though, you know, you know, 47 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: I gotta make sure I brought you, brought you the forefront, 48 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: right doctor. That's all I'm saying. Man, you are very 49 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: nicely now, appreciate that. Thank you, sir. What what where 50 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: are yet right now in this in this in this 51 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: country of America? Where yet right now? Sir? I'm not 52 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: too far from you here in Atlanta? Okay? Great? Great? Um. 53 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: You know education, I know I come from Houston, Texas, 54 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: born in fifth ward. Uh my degrees in the mathematics 55 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: and my minor and sociology, so I know the important 56 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: of continued education. I always tell people who always tell 57 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: young people just go to college and just just see 58 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: what college has to offer to you. How it changed 59 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: my life. Education changed my life. I would not be 60 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: talking to you because when I came out of high school, Sean, 61 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a forklift driver and got a 62 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: job for forklift driver. That was my dream because that 63 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: was those were my mentors. My mentors were guys who 64 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: don't load the trucks. From our fifteen sixty years old 65 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: I saw it. I went, wow, this is cool, and 66 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: I stayed in my mind. Despite having my best friend 67 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: she graduated. She with the rights and graduated. My other 68 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: best friends she went to Purdue and graduate. So it 69 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: wasn't like I was. I was surrounded by a bunch 70 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: of dummies. My whole little core was smart and I 71 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: was smart too. But I wanted to take the easy 72 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: way out, a comfortable way out. I felt, you know, 73 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: get to that get to that finish line real quick. 74 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: But but what But that wasn't the right finish line 75 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: for me. So when we talking about education, that's your passion, 76 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: I just wanted to tee it up for the type 77 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: of conversation I'm gonna have with you, and we're gonna 78 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: go into a lot of things and these UH in 79 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: this call we have today. But I want to let 80 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: you know the guy you're talking to was the guy 81 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: who who was was was not there. I was not that, 82 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: I was not motivated to pursue a four year opportunity 83 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: in academics and and and it changed my life. So 84 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: talk to us about UH education and from your standpoint, 85 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: I firmly believe that education and is just really it's 86 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: a key that can unlock so many doors in so 87 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: many different directions. One of the limiting things that I'm 88 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: working very very hard for, particularly in urban and culturally 89 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: diverse schools, as you mentioned, is exposure. We need to 90 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: be sure that we the bright young scholars in these 91 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: four walls, in the four walls of these classrooms across 92 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: this country are being exposed so that they have something 93 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: to shoot for, and education can do that. What are 94 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: we exposing them to, what are we allowing them to see? 95 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: And more importantly, what are we allowing them to see 96 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: and how they think into that as it can be 97 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: a contributing member to society. What are we showing them, 98 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: what are we putting them and how does it connect 99 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: to their everyday lives. Whether we understand the value and 100 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: importance of that or not, it is absolutely critical. We 101 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: need to make sure that we are showing these students 102 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: what is possible. And that's why I work so hard 103 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: so that they can see something to shoot for. Let 104 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: that service the engine that drives them, whether it is 105 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: that four year degree, whether it is that a two 106 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: year degree, whether it is a trade, something beyond just 107 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: going to do the quote, Well, they're minimal and making 108 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: sex absolutely because I always tell people that, you know, 109 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: you can't reapa or degree. Okay, my degree in that wall. 110 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna come back and gay, Hey man, you know 111 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: some I'm gonna take that back. They can't do that. 112 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: I earned that. You know you can. You can't call 113 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: me stupid, you can't call me a dumby. It's right there. Okay, 114 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: what story are you telling it? That I've been recognized 115 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: as a person who knows how to apply himself. I'm 116 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: goal oriented, okay, and I know how to finish what 117 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: I start. That's what the degree means to me. And 118 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: when I talk about listen to your passion is a 119 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: passion that I didn't have because I didn't understand and 120 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: so and we know that the stop gap or the 121 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: the or the jump off point in this game of 122 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: competition that we call in this country we call America 123 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: is education because it's not equal. Education not equal, and 124 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: so which leads to a different story. And I think 125 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: that private secret, private sector should come in and stop 126 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: trying that we should stop trying to get the government 127 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: to fix the situation. And I believe that the sexual 128 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: chector come in because they're the ones who seek our 129 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: money in movies, seek our money, and android phones they 130 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: seek our money, and technology, they seek our money, and 131 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: grocery stores. They seek our money in so many different ways, 132 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: but they don't return that money to us when it 133 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: comes to lifestyle, when it comes to education, making a 134 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: difference in our community because they've they've they've, they've, they've 135 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: they've they've, they've developed a nice system, they keep the money. 136 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: They don't help out anybody but themselves, okay, And then 137 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: they said the government is supposed to do that. So 138 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: so that's one of the things that we know when 139 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: I look at this change in our community is civil unrest, 140 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: the pandemic. You know, I'm sitting down trying to create 141 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: an agenda, a plan of action, and the plan of 142 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: action is the old way ain't gonna work for the 143 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 1: new way. So we have to hit a new plan 144 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: in place for the new way to even have a 145 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: shot at working. And it has to include the private sector. 146 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: And that's that's a that's a statement from me. And 147 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: when I talked to me, to worldly people like you, 148 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: educated people like you, who know what I'm talking about 149 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: when I say education is not equal because it's tied 150 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: to it's tied to property tax. You know, it's tied 151 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: to the lot of program in each state, which doesn't 152 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: really do anything for education, like they say, because most 153 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: of the program going, most of the money goes to 154 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: the company that sets up a lot of and so 155 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: and so these things drive me. You know, I've been fortunate. Man. 156 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: You can google my name and there's a lot of 157 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: things come up about me, So you have you have 158 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: an image of who I am or idea who I am? 159 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: Who is Dr Seaun Woodley? Let me tell you something, 160 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: Dr Sean Woodley is. I'm a husband, I am a father, 161 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: I am a believer, and I am an educator. I 162 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: do a lot of things under that education umbrella, but 163 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: it all boils that back down to being an educator. 164 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: I get to leverage my creativity in what I do, 165 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: and that has that fuels my passion for entrepreneurship. I've 166 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: been able to uniquely combine the field of education and 167 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: entrepreneurship to not only do what I love, but serve 168 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: others while doing it. It's like the it's it's like 169 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: a beautiful mix that allows me to be who I 170 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: authentically am at this while at the same time giving 171 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: back and contributing to society, making a difference in the 172 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: lives of teachers who evidently make a difference in the 173 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: lives of their students. That that is who I am, 174 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: and that is how I think. That is what I 175 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: believe God to give to me is to give to 176 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: the world. Right. You know when I when I look 177 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: at your HBCU grad I said that your critic is 178 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: Hampton State University. Hey, you don't just tell you this, doctor, 179 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: Dr Sean. I get a lot of HBCU Ampton guests 180 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: on my show. I think it because of the executive 181 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: producer the show. She graduated from Hampton University. I think 182 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: that really she graduated and I seem to get a 183 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of I'm not disappointed at the 184 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: end of the guest, I'm just telling you straight out 185 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: standing like you come on my show from Happy University. 186 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: But I think I think she's using my brand to 187 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: promote the brand of Hampton University, which is an outstand 188 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: at HBCU school. So tell us about your HBCU experience 189 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: and the value of attending a school like an HBCU 190 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: school like Hampton University. Let me tell you something. Hampton 191 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: University is my family. I stand by it, and it 192 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: was absolutely one of the best decisions I've ever made. 193 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: The reason that I ended up at Hampton or I. 194 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: I grew up in New York and my father raising 195 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: us in the church. She was a musician to Hampton 196 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 1: University every year during the summer has a ministers and 197 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: musicians conference that my father attend all the time. He's 198 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: the one that told me about Hampton University. And this 199 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: goes back to what you mentioned earlier about kind of 200 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: why how we can promote the idea of education to 201 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: the youth. I was never told in high school about HBCUs, 202 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: about what schools like Hampton A and t Spellman Morehouse. 203 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: I would never exposed to those things other than what 204 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: my family told me. And I'm so glad that my 205 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: dad put that battery in my back at a young 206 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: age to be aware of what Hampton was doing and 207 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: how it could benefit me. Uh. He took me down 208 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: there to take the tour of the campus. We went 209 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: as a family, my mom, my brothers, and after that 210 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: we you know, I have two uh younger siblings actually 211 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: three excuse me, that r HBCU attended and or graduates. 212 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: So like, this is something that I feel I was 213 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: able to set an example for them because of what 214 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: my dad and my mom showed me and my as 215 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: we like to say, my matriculation. That's wonderful, you know, 216 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: it was. It was life altering for me, if I 217 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: could say, because I mean what I've learned there, who 218 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: I met, it was. It was a microcosm of just 219 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: really love and education, um that you yearned for that 220 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: you cannot get at another p w Y and you 221 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: can't get that. I ask any HBCU grab and they'll 222 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: tell you about that family element that you just you 223 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: can you can imitate, but you can't duplicate that. I 224 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: love it. I love it. I'm talking to my man, 225 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: Dr Sean Woodley. He is a half the universe. The 226 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: hbc U two thousand four bachelor's good huh, two thousand 227 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: and four bachelor's degree, two thousand five, Masters degree, then 228 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: following up with his PhD. We're gonna be back in 229 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: more to our about his brand of education, his books, 230 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: all those great things, and first of all, he know 231 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: now about money making conversation. You know a lot of 232 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: people called my show. They call, you know, people tell 233 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: them it's to show the call. But once they get here, 234 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: I talked, they here my passion. His brother right here, 235 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: he's on my list now. So when I called when 236 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: he when he called me to be on this show, 237 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: I was absolutely with a Okay, let'll be right back there. 238 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: Said Hi, this was Sean McDonald and you're listening to 239 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: the money Making Conversation. I've been having a good old 240 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: time with Dr Sean Woodley about his brand education. You 241 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: know how he started in the education, what the education 242 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: means to him, what it means to me, the passion 243 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: behind education. It took me seven years to get my degree. Uh. 244 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: I was arrogant. I thought I'd be in and out. 245 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: But what I did when I went to college, I 246 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: was just trying I'm gona tell you something, Dr Sean. 247 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: I was just trying to go to. I was trying 248 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: to find an easy degree. Okay, the first four and 249 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: a half yeard, I was looking for the easy degree. 250 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: My friends go easy, an easy teaching. He's an easy teach. 251 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: I went to and when they had no symbols of 252 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: what they had to do with my degree plans, I 253 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: was trying to find easy teachers. I found them all 254 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: and then I found one easy teaching in physics that 255 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: gave me an elf that woked me up. That woked 256 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: me up because they realized that you have to work. 257 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: Life is about working hard and being consistent. And when 258 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: I look at your brand, when you talk about education, 259 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: you have to be consistent and you have to create 260 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: a model that people can believe it and can use 261 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: to teach other people. Talk about your brain a little bit. 262 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: Dr Sean Sure, Sure, I'm I preach and teach, teach, hustle, inspire, 263 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: and and here's what it means. Teach, hustle, inspire is 264 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: not just three particular words that I randomly put together 265 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: and threw it up as a logo. They have intention 266 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: behind each of those. When I talk about teach, it's 267 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: about how we unlock our students and our own intellectual treasure. 268 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: That's what it means. How can we create trans forman 269 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: of learning experiences for ourselves, for our students in our classroom. 270 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: That hustle park, that's that's my favorite part. That hustle 271 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: is about how we can't stop that won't stop learning. 272 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: Mr McDonald's here and it kind of has that nineties 273 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: d D bad boy vibe twins to it just a 274 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: little bit. That's that's my personality being there in there 275 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. But how do we keep how do 276 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: we stay on top of the current research, How do 277 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: we stay on top of what we need to know 278 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: to continue because see, education don't stop, Education does not stop. 279 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: How do we continue to learn to be the best 280 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: we can for ourselves and our students? And that inspire 281 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: It means to spread love and like what we do 282 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: with educators, that can be a thankless profession. Sometimes with 283 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: the inequities in the curriculums that we see, with the 284 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: inequities and distribution of funds, we sometimes we feel like 285 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: we're all we have. So we have to be sure 286 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: that we're spreading that love and life to one another, 287 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: pouring back into ourselves and taking care of our soaps 288 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: so that we can take care of our families. You 289 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: can't give from well de dempty. 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That's O T T E R. 324 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 1: Dot ai. It's really amazing when I when I think 325 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: about it, you know, when we still talk about unequal education, 326 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 1: and we still talk about, you know, denying people an 327 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: opportunity to get an equal education, and that's usually tied 328 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: to the community that you grow up in and you're 329 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, me in the South, and you know that 330 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: what you really was the reason we have hbc US 331 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 1: because it was a time where the southern schools wouldn't 332 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: let a black person in the school and then the 333 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: northern school headquarters or limitations. So it was out of 334 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: necessity that we had to create these hbc used which 335 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: are now the backbone of education, especially for African American 336 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: success stores in this country today. That's one of the 337 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: reasons why I take the time to be able to 338 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: articulate the value and the need. Now when you talk 339 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: about education and you you you broke down the whole 340 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: teach hustle inspired whether all about? But how did they 341 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: come about? You know what what the what? What? What? What? 342 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: What launched it? Though? Dr Sean? What launched did? That 343 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: came from a need for me to try and find 344 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: a unique and creative way to pour into the lives 345 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: of educators and give back. I am, I'm a speaker 346 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: and consultant and you know all in the under the 347 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: umbrella of educating that is that is what I do. 348 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to find something that could connect us in 349 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: the education world, something especially those of us that serve 350 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: in urban and culturally diverse communities because there are specific 351 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: challenges that we are simply at a fundamental level not 352 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: prepared to deal with. And again it's not because something 353 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: is wrong, it's just that we are not prepared. So 354 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: I created this with the mind with the mindset of 355 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: how can I help prepare dedicated and talented educators to 356 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: face the challenges that can arise in urban and culturally 357 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: diverse communities so that we can now move this agenda 358 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: forward and balance these scales a little bit. But it 359 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: really just came from my desire to what to serve, 360 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: to want to unite and start a movement, and I 361 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: just it's it's not something that I just thought of 362 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: one particular day to teach hustle inspire. Kind of it 363 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: seems like it came out of nowhere. But what you're 364 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: seeing are the results of years, years of research, years 365 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: of practice, and years of trial error, failing, fail again, 366 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 1: fail forward, fail some more, try it again. That's what 367 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: you're seeing now are the results of that. And this 368 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: is just the beginning. That's that's powerful words, um and 369 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: so those are some of the when you say obstacles, 370 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: you know it is one of these over to me. 371 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: Um is are the obstacles, Uh, Disbelievers are obstacles yourself 372 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: sometimes doubting whether this is this will be received? What 373 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: exactly are the obstacles that you're talking about. Some of 374 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: the obstacles UM definitely do come in the form of 375 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: self sabotage and questioning whether or not you are the 376 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: one that should be doing this. As far as t 377 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: hustle inspired inspire is concerned that that can the obstacles 378 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: can start from within and if I am not careful, 379 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: if I am not emotionally aware enough to examine that 380 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: it is nothing more than just self sabotage and that 381 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: I can overcome, that it can be something that consumes me. 382 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,239 Speaker 1: But my passion and desire and understanding to know that 383 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm called to do this outweighs those obstacles and makes 384 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: them speed bumps at the post hurdles. So now out 385 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: what I can do is with the understanding that and 386 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: not to get church on you. But God doesn't call 387 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: to qualify, He qualifies the call. I understand that this 388 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: is a mission for me and now I'm growing and 389 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: that as long as I stay true to who I 390 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: am and what the Good Lord has for me. I 391 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: can't tell us, Oh no, you won't, you won't. That's 392 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: why I set up this show. My friend is passionate driven, 393 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: and the information that I give through my faith and 394 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: through my passion, I educate people who listen and follow 395 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: my brand. So we're on the same page. Now, tell 396 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: us about your artcoming um conference for urban educators. Sure. Sure. 397 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: I wanted to create a unique experience called the Super 398 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 1: Teachers Summit. And what happens is this is going to 399 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: be a unique online virtual event. We we you know, 400 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: we have to be cautious with everything happening coronavirus wise, 401 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: about large gatherings and so forth, but that's still doesn't 402 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: put a stop on the work that needs to be done, 403 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: because come August September, there are still children that are 404 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: going to need to be educated. So I wanted to 405 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: come up with a unique way to garner educators attention 406 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: to help solve some of the problems that they will 407 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: inevitably face. And I created this unique event to be 408 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: an online, interactive virtual experience more than just someone sitting 409 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: in front of a screen and then now alright, everything 410 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: is going in one ear and out of the other. 411 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to make this a little bit more than 412 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: simply just your average teacher conference, if you will, And 413 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: so I I gave it a theme. I embedded some 414 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: of the research and some phenomenal speakers that I know 415 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: of that are really doing the work in this field. 416 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: And I'm putting together what I know will be a 417 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: Dynamites event in August. So is there any set date 418 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,239 Speaker 1: for aug yet or just all the still planning. It's 419 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: still planning. It's going to be the first weekend in 420 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: August that you want to make sure. I want to 421 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: be a part of that. Whatever I can do to 422 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: promote it through my social or my newsletter goes a 423 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: weekly every Friday at nine am. I'll make you're part 424 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 1: of that conversation. Before I was a couple of things. 425 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: But I want to talk to about before we leaves. 426 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: I wanted I did not read your best selling book 427 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: MC means Move the class, How the spark engagement and 428 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: motivation and urban and culturally diverse classroom? Tell us about that? 429 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: And then I also want to close and response from 430 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: you about what's going on in America right now. Okay, absolutely, 431 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: the book for me came from my experiences teaching. I 432 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: spent ten years UM teaching in urban schools, and while 433 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: doing that, because I was I knew that there were 434 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: things that I wanted to do. I had a side 435 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: hustle at the DJ. So literally Ms McDonald, I would 436 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: pull up to the schoolyard and teach during the day 437 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: and being the club at night with my turn tables 438 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: in the literal, and it was it was so fund yeah. 439 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about parties, clubs, weddings, bar mits, 440 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: was barbecues, It doesn't matter if they had if they 441 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: were paying and needed music services. I was in there. 442 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: And so what I began to notice is that I 443 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: was growing as a DJ and growing as an educator simultaneously, 444 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: and some coincidental not my coincidental, some emerging commonalities started 445 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: to really make way about both professions, about being a teacher, 446 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: about being in DJ, and so really that that mc see. 447 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: You know, back in the day when I grew, I 448 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: grew up on Long Island and Eric being rock Cam 449 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: had from Eric B as president the song um excuse 450 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: me um, Eric B as president, not second verse where 451 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: our cam talks about Eric B on the cut scratching 452 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: the medicine, no mistakes allowed. Because to me, mc means 453 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: moved the problem. And that line always stuck to me. 454 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: It really because what stands out about that is what 455 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: rock Him was telling us is that his his role 456 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: as an m C it's it's not just a position, 457 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: it's a responsibility. Mr McDonald, that's that's my responsibility to 458 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: move this crowd. So I took that and and with 459 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: that same mindset, it's my responsibility to move this class 460 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: and as a DJ, as a as a teacher. You know, 461 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: in both roles, I'm a motivator. I am the reason 462 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: that you're going to in this club dance or I'm 463 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: the reason in this classroom you're going to learn. In 464 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: both roles, I curate specific content so that when in 465 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: the timing of winning his place, to create an absolute 466 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: experience for either the people in the club or the 467 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: students in my classroom, making real time decisions, making sure 468 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: that I am on top of everything, and making sure 469 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: that I can change when needed. Making those ah sumans 470 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: to really read the crowd and feed off of that energy. 471 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: It becomes sick. Wow, that's hot. You know that's hot 472 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: because I hear the passion, I hear the planning out here. 473 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: It's a it's authentic. That's what I hear the most, doctor, 474 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: and that's why, that's why, that's why it works, because 475 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: it's not something you made up. It's tied to a journey. 476 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: You know. The journey in the world that we're living 477 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: in right now is um I did an interview this 478 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: morning and I was telling them that one out of 479 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: one thousand black men and boys will be killed by 480 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: a police officer. That's one out of one thousand. That's 481 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: two point five times higher than white men and white boys. 482 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: And when people ask us, why, why the unrest, why 483 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: the protests, what is your response? Dr Shaun Woodley, Hello, 484 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: do you cannot tell the oppressed? Essentially, It's been quoted 485 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: and said so many times, but you can't tell the 486 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: oppressed how to respond to their oppression. You can't do that. 487 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: What you're seeing are the results of years of years 488 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: and years, hundreds of years of outcries, hundreds of years 489 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: of just simply making a plea not to be treated better, 490 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: Mr McDonald, for being treated the same. That's all we want, 491 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: that's that's at the end of the day. We just 492 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: wanted to be treated the same. And so now what 493 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: has resulted from that is the the emotional outburst of 494 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 1: the people that has been held down far too long. Absolutely, 495 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: I always tell people I just want my child to 496 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: have a better life than our hands. And I think 497 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: that anybody who's not my color wants the same thing. 498 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: So just give me my shot. But when I'm stopped 499 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: by the pot, least, don't allow a lobby not to 500 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: be afraid. Now, allow me to not believe that this 501 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: might be a stop I'm drive away from. That's all 502 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm asking. And when I say one out of one thousand, 503 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: that's an incredible number. Two publicly say this documented story 504 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: came out of the Los Angeles time I read it 505 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: and then have and I've been horrified ever since. Dr Sean. 506 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: Would I hope you enjoyed coming on my show. It's 507 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: a it's a journey. It's a journey about it's your journey. 508 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to share with my listeners on money making conversations. 509 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: And no, you have a friend and uh and when 510 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: the when the conference comes out, the Urban Educator's Conference 511 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: comes out in August. If you want to come back, 512 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: the doors open, if you want to just send banners, 513 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: the doors open. And I would promise you. 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