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Speaker 1: Coming up in about twenty eight minutes, Calvin Watkins, the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Morning News Cowboys reporter. Calvin's been around for a

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Speaker 1: long time. I know him in New York. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: with him. Cowboys ride high all of a sudden, Yes

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Speaker 1: they are. That big win against Philadelphia and another big

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Speaker 1: win against the Chiefs. Wow, ain't nobody talking about Jerry Jones?

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Speaker 1: Is moron.

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Speaker 3: We haven't heard that, lady. Yeah, they're just waiting. They're

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Speaker 3: just waiting for another chance, but right now they cannot

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Speaker 3: do it. I like the Cowboys right now, I mean

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Speaker 3: and offensively like. I like them in Detroit next Thursday

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Speaker 3: against the Line. If they win that one, I think

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Speaker 3: they're they're gonna run the table. Yeah, I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: a big game. And the Lions are scuffling a little bit.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be without some of their weapons and they

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Speaker 1: can't get any pressure on the quarterback right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm just Jordan Love had all day he did No.

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Speaker 3: The Lions are in trouble. You fall, you fall in line,

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Speaker 3: and you start losing some of those games you're supposed

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Speaker 3: to win early, and they catch up to you.

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Speaker 2: They sure do.

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Speaker 1: Also, Fuzzy Zeller, the golfer has passed a where we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about his legacy and you know where it fits

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Speaker 1: in what should be there, what shouldn't be there. So

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Speaker 1: we got a lot of stuff to get to. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, talk about a bummer of a game to watch.

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Speaker 2: Forget about.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't that one of the Bengals to win or lose,

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Speaker 1: Just was a terrible game from the turnover standpoint, and

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Speaker 1: Lamar was awful. Just three turnovers. They lose a game

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Speaker 1: thirty two to fourteen. I don't know that a couple

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Speaker 1: of touchdowns, taking off the board, fumbles just Lamar tossed

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it was, but there Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Lost four fumbles, including two by Lamar, and he also

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Speaker 1: a really bad game. There's six and six in second place.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with you, Carrie. I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 1: here to defend Lamar, but I'm not so sure that

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Speaker 1: it's just Lamar. When I see how bad the Ravens

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Speaker 3: Yeah it isn't. But this game, I'm putting it on Lamar. Okay,

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Speaker 3: and you know, you know I'm a big Lamar supporter

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Speaker 3: from day one. This is the worst Lamar has played

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Speaker 2: He has no touchdowns the last the last three five interceptions.

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Speaker 2: Is that it or five.

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Speaker 3: Turnover five interceptions? Yeah, five turnovers. But this is the

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's health, and I'm not going

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Speaker 1: Was a big game. You know what, the Bengals at home.

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Speaker 3: And Rob those games happen, but when you are one

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Speaker 2: You gotta be perfect from here on out. And so the.

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Speaker 3: Casual nature of the way that he played in that game,

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Speaker 3: he was missing easy throws, he wasn't on time.

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Speaker 2: It did not look good at all.

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Speaker 3: And so for this Ravens team, I know a lot

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Speaker 3: of people are gonna try to bury him.

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Speaker 2: Obviously they're six and six and they don't look like

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Speaker 3: When we talked about them having all the success they have,

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Speaker 3: we give Lamar allow the credit. When they lose this way,

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Speaker 3: you gotta give him some blame too. And so I'm

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Speaker 2: That's fair.

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Speaker 1: But I got somebody else on you to heat some

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Speaker 1: blame on you got John Harbaugh, because you know why,

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Speaker 1: it ain't just about the offense. They couldn't get off

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Speaker 1: one of the season they had they scored forty points.

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Speaker 1: Lamar put on a clintic of course, Okay, yeah, fump turnovers, fumbles,

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Speaker 1: defense couldn't stop the bill. I mean, like, let's be

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Speaker 1: it has been an awful year for all facets of

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. At some point, can you stop saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: John Harball won a Super Bowl back ten years, eight

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Speaker 1: years ago, whenever it was like it was a long

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Speaker 1: time ago to me every year since they had Lamar

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Speaker 1: been able to get to that next step. How long

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Speaker 1: do you keep doing the same thing with John Harball

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Speaker 1: and not trying to make a fix or change. And

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Speaker 1: did win, So I understand that for the first few years. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you still believe, well, he won, he got us there,

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Speaker 1: let's give him a shot. But you remember in Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay with Tony Dungee couldn't win, like they had an

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Speaker 1: unbelievable defense, had everything. Tony Dungee every year couldn't win.

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Speaker 1: Finally said okay, they let him go, bought and John

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Speaker 1: Gruden and he won the Super Bowl, like like I've

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Speaker 1: seen this happen and one guy might be able to

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Speaker 1: get you to a certain point. But he had since

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Speaker 1: he's had Lamar, they haven't done sloppy play, just mistakes

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Speaker 1: in that AFC game championship game wasn't a championship game

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Speaker 1: against the against Kansas City in Baltimore was eight flowers

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Speaker 1: like fumbled at the like they always make the mistakes

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Speaker 1: uh last year against uh the Buffalo Mark and like

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Speaker 1: like in their stars, these aren't random players like right

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Speaker 1: to them, Like seriously, everybody, owe the throat. No no, no,

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Speaker 1: catch that ball. That ball thrown to you, Okay, you're open,

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Speaker 1: catch the ball. Like this keeps happening. And you could say, well,

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Speaker 1: you you can't blame the coach because the players aren't

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Speaker 1: making plays. But let me tell you this, yes you can,

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Speaker 1: because when the players make plays, we give the coach credit.

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Speaker 1: Oh he got them broughting up, he got them ready

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Speaker 1: to play. Right, So we give the coach credit when

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Speaker 1: stuff goes good, he gets a new contract, he gets

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Speaker 1: a raise, all of this, but when his players aren't focused,

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Speaker 1: One goes with the other. It's not either or unless

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Speaker 1: they win the Super Bowl. I would fire John Harball

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season. I would I need

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Speaker 1: somebody new. I don't want to waste another year with Lamar. Okay, Like,

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Speaker 1: don't kid yourself. The Packers didn't do what they needed

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Speaker 1: to do during Aaron Rodgers. After they won to twenty ten,

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Speaker 1: they never got back. How many times did we watch

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Speaker 1: could go talk about Aaron Rodgers and this dude, how

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Speaker 1: many how how many times did they lose where Aaron

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Speaker 2: Oh, Rob, you just love it. I'm telling you, I

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Speaker 2: watched the game.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about where he There was

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Speaker 1: a game against Arizona those a year they went to

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Speaker 1: remember that to tie the game Arizona against the ball.

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Speaker 1: They marched down and win the game. He never touched them.

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Speaker 1: And then you go, well, Aaron Rodgers fail in.

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Speaker 3: The playoffs, the one against Tom Brady, you kick a

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Speaker 3: field goal or not, thank you ball hand to win

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how Matt Lafortunately have been run out of Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I want Aaron Rodgers to throw an interception

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And so all I'm saying is, at some point, Lamar

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Speaker 2: At some point.

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Speaker 3: And right now it's not looking pretty on the longevity

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Speaker 3: of what he can do as being the Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: He's getting hurt and we knew that.

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Speaker 3: We knew that was gonna be a possibility with all

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Speaker 3: the running he's doing one hundred, So you're definitely right,

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Speaker 3: you have to maximize the kid.

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Speaker 1: I'm at this point I think you have to start

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Speaker 1: and not working? It's just not it doesn't feel good,

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Speaker 1: the chemistry. Something is off on that team, and I

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Speaker 1: give it. I'm with you, and I love to watch

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Speaker 1: Lamar play.

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Speaker 2: It was painful to watch that kid.

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Speaker 3: It was it was right, yes, like I in my

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Speaker 3: mind whenever I see situations like that happen, especially with

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Speaker 3: people that have been targeted in the past about their

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Speaker 3: play or their style of play or what they can

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Speaker 3: do what they can't do, the fact that he was

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Speaker 3: so bad, Like I knew today was going to be

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Speaker 3: a terrible day, like for me, Like I was like, right,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna they're gonna dissect this and be like I

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Speaker 3: told you, like I don't.

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Speaker 2: Want to hear all that.

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Speaker 3: You know how good in the kid is, but you

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Speaker 3: have one bad game like this and it's just magnified too.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and and and you if you want to referendum

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Speaker 1: on his career, stop. Okay, the MVPs he should have

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Speaker 1: Is this a Lamar issue? Is this a John Harbar issue?

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Speaker 5: Thank you for taking my call? Fine, Happy holidays, you know,

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Speaker 5: Carry and Rob. I enjoy your show because I have

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Speaker 5: very often enjoyed your analysis. It seems spot on about

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Speaker 7: How you doing?

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Speaker 4: Thanks creaking the call isten Happy belated Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 7: I couldn't be with you yesterday, but I wanted you know.

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Speaker 4: We know that Rob Parker, he don't take the holidays,

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Speaker 4: When I checked my feet, I saw you were handling business.

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Speaker 4: for me to blame his on Lamar Jackson, the two

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Speaker 4: But for him, his window and the excuses that they're

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Speaker 3: We got Alice and Pittsburgh couple.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing?

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Speaker 7: Hi, guys?

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Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving? Alice? You know I gotta asked, did you

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Speaker 11: I did? I made a whole. I made a thirteen

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Speaker 2: Atl Not a minute for two people a thirteen pound turkey.

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Speaker 2: She could have invited us, we would have. He would

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Speaker 7: I made.

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Speaker 11: I make candy jams, I made stuffing, I made corn

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Speaker 11: But I was a really good dinner. Yeah, if I

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Speaker 1: All right, next time I come through Pittsburgh because I

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Speaker 2: Maybe we meet down at the ballpark. Okay, okay, all right, cook,

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Speaker 2: I'm Polish.

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Speaker 7: Good day.

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Speaker 11: But anyway, I don't think that it was just all

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Speaker 11: It was like a team effort. Derrick Henry didn't even

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Speaker 2: They defensively, they couldn't stop the Bengals could that.

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Speaker 10: I just they looked off yesterday.

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Speaker 7: But Alice, this season is what.

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Speaker 11: I expected, Alice, I thought the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Alice.

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 2: And now he did not, I'll give you that.

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Speaker 7: No, he did peel terrible.

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Speaker 11: He looked terrible and he's and then he had he's

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Speaker 7: All right, Alice, I don't know what.

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Speaker 11: Well, do you know what, guys, next time you come

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Speaker 10: I'm doing good man? That's doing it?

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Speaker 4: Rob?

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Speaker 7: How was that lost for mac and cheese?

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Speaker 2: No, we didn't get any of you know what happened?

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Speaker 1: Rob g went to Costcos and he got there early

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Speaker 1: We didn't get done all. Yeah, being Alex, we were

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Speaker 10: We were ripening it up all all week. I was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bummed out, bummed dang.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, on the mar it's his fault man. Look,

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Speaker 10: And I think he rushed coming back. I think he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of things. Yeah, appreciate the call.

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Speaker 1: Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, will squeeze one

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Speaker 2: What's up right?

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Speaker 7: How are you doing?

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Speaker 5: Brother?

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Speaker 7: I'd love listening to your radio show.

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Speaker 12: Okay, I just was related by my Bears are doing good.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you heard me go crazy to start the show.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you did. He was running hot,

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Speaker 2: he was running hot earlier.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I'm I'm I'm a I'm born and raised to speak

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Speaker 6: for a mass but ironically I'm a Bears fan, coach fan,

447
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Speaker 6: and a Chicago Blackhawks fan. And people ask me if

448
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Speaker 6: I'm from Chicago, but no, because a Bears, well, one

449
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Speaker 6: of my favorite any animals. And I'm half Indian.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so nice, you know, But I'm just.

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Speaker 12: I'm just glad that we're doing good and hopefully, you know,

452
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Speaker 12: we overcome the chief heads and finally, like you know,

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Speaker 12: Calen Williams is playing good, better than he did last year.

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Speaker 12: He's not getting sacked as many times, but you know

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Speaker 12: the one again.

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Speaker 2: No doubt. Thanks, thanks for the call, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: We know the Bears are doing doing well and that

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Speaker 1: was a big win, right as big as he gets huge?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. All right, Uh, let's get you caught up.

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Speaker 1: We got Calvin Watkins coming up from the Dallas Morning

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Speaker 1: News befirst Steve de Seger.

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Speaker 13: Let's start with college football. They just ended the first

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Speaker 13: quarter Number two ranked and undefeated Indiana only leads seven

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Speaker 13: to three at Purdue and end of the first quarter.

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Speaker 13: Number three and undefeated Texas A and MS scoreless at

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Speaker 13: sixteenth ranked Texas. Marcel Reid, star quarterback for the Aggies,

467
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Speaker 13: left with what appeared to be a non contact leg

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Speaker 13: injury in the opening period. Arch Manning of Texas so

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Speaker 13: far just four of eleven passing for twenty one yards.

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Speaker 13: Coming up in a half an hour on Fox TV

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Speaker 13: Top twenty five matchup Arizona at Arizona State, Number four

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Speaker 13: Georgia A winner at Georgia Tech sixteen to nine. Seventh

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Speaker 13: ranked Old Miss won at Mississippi State thirty eight. Nineteen

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Speaker 13: Mississippi coach Lane Kiffin will decide tomorrow if he's leaving

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Speaker 13: for LSU or not. Trinidad. Chambliss of Old Miss had

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Speaker 13: four touchdown passes today, three hundred and fifty nine yards

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Speaker 13: through the air. Thirteenth ranked Utah with three touchdowns in

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Speaker 13: the fourth quarter one at Kansas thirty one. Twenty one

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Speaker 13: Iowa won at Nebraska Eastley, New Mexico in double overtime,

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Speaker 13: defeated San Diego State, Boise State edged Utah State, Vanderbilt

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Speaker 13: gave coach Clark Lee a new six year contract. The

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Speaker 13: Chicago Bears are now nine and three after winning at

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Speaker 13: Philadelphia today twenty four to fifteen. Eagles offense on their

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Speaker 13: first nine drives, had only seven first downs and they

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Speaker 13: were trailing twenty four to nine at the time. Kyle

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Speaker 13: Manungai one hundred and thirty yards rushing in a touchdown.

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Speaker 13: DeAndre Swift one hundred and twenty five yards rushing in

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Speaker 13: a score for the Bears. Dealers quarterback Aaron Rodgers will

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Speaker 13: return to play Sunday with the broken left wrists. The

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Speaker 13: Bucks say quarterback Baker Mayfield is trending toward playing this

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Speaker 13: weekend despite a spraying left shoulder. Texans quarterback c J.

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Speaker 13: Stroud will start. He's clear concussion protocol. The Vikings will

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Speaker 13: start rookie Max sprosmer As. JJ McCarthy is still in protocol.

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Speaker 13: Giants quarterback Jackson Dart will start Monday night after missing

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Speaker 13: time with a concussion. Among the eleven NBA games tonight,

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Speaker 13: Cleveland is leading fifty six fifty five late first half

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Speaker 13: at Atlanta twenty points for Donovan Mitchell and men's college

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Speaker 13: hoops at Madison Square Garden number five, Connecticut beat thirteenth

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Speaker 13: ranked Illinois seventy four to sixty one, and NHL shootout

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Speaker 13: wins for Anaheim, Philadelphia and Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you, Steve, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: It is the odd couple on a funky flashback Friday.

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Speaker 1: Rob Parker and Carrie Rhoads in for kelvin Washington. The

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Speaker 1: crew will be back in full of fac on Monday

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Speaker 1: after to the holiday, but.

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Speaker 2: Right now, let's welcome in. Calvin Watkins.

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Morning News covers the Cowboys for forever.

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Speaker 2: In the day.

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Speaker 1: I know, Calvin, Uh, your left came back, but you've

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Speaker 1: been covering the Cowboys for how many years now?

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Speaker 7: I think that's his number sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable number sixteen, saying how to carry Rhoads? What's going on?

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Speaker 2: What's that big cal what's that big Calvin? How you doing?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, happy Thanksgiving to you and the family.

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Speaker 7: Everything good, you got, everybody's good, everybody's there, everybody's good.

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Speaker 7: My son's visited that I made some ducks DU's breast.

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Speaker 7: He loved it.

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Speaker 2: Very nice, very nice. I've had duck too.

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Speaker 1: I had uh Buffalo duck wings and New Wallan were

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Speaker 1: really good at Emeralds restaurant, of course, buff buffalo duck wing.

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Speaker 2: Don't look don't look at me like that. I don't

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Speaker 2: want it.

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Speaker 7: Making that big money, Calvin.

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Speaker 2: I ain't doing it on the duck though, I ain't

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Speaker 2: doing it.

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Speaker 1: And when I've been into when I've been in the

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Speaker 1: mine of my wings, I thought I was biting on

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Speaker 1: the daffy duck.

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Speaker 2: But oh man, Calvin, do not laugh at him.

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Speaker 8: Don't give it.

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Speaker 2: Don't give him that sad I forget. You know it,

533
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Speaker 2: You know it.

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Speaker 7: It is sad. It is sad because I saw a

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Speaker 7: whole dunk and I couldn't buy it.

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Speaker 2: Come on, you know what, Calvin, always remember this.

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Speaker 1: Ducks don't go to college, they don't get married, and

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Speaker 1: they don't buy houses.

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Speaker 2: What else are they here for? You know, they're here

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Speaker 2: for us? All right?

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Speaker 1: Anyway, let's go here. And what about them Cowboys? My goodness, gracious,

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Speaker 1: what a win against the Chiefs. I mean, that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a huge win and a blow to the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: but also a big boost to the Dallas Cowboys. And

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Speaker 1: they're playing, well, that's back to back. They're down twenty

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Speaker 1: one nothing to Philadelphia. They win that game and then

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Speaker 1: they followed that up with a game against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Right now, their confidence has to be sky high.

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Speaker 7: It really is. They've won their last three games. Going

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Speaker 7: into this stretch, they were like three five and one.

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Speaker 7: They had not won consecutive games all year. They had

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Speaker 7: not been the team for a plus five hundred record,

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Speaker 7: and they've done that. Now they beat the Eagles and

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Speaker 7: they beat the Chiefs. Two teams have in the Super

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Speaker 7: Bowl last year. This is the first time they've won

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Speaker 7: three in a row since the twenty twenty three season.

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Speaker 7: And they're in pretty good shape now. They still got

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Speaker 7: a lot of work to do. If they went out,

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Speaker 7: they have a chance to win the division. That would

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Speaker 7: give them eleven wins. They can afford one more loss maybe,

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Speaker 7: but they still got work to do to get to

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Speaker 7: the wildcard. But they're in good shape.

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Speaker 1: How about I'm going to be in Detroit. You'll be

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Speaker 1: there right when they played? Yeah, So I'll see you

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Speaker 1: in Detroit going to that game. Yeah, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: that game.

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Speaker 2: Say that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go there. I want to go to

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Speaker 1: the funeral. I mean I want to here we go, there,

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Speaker 1: we go.

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Speaker 7: Well, you're gonna wear black, you know? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: There you go. Well, I just want you to know Calvin.

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Speaker 1: Before the season started, I did say Lion's no playoffs.

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Speaker 2: And Chiefs no playoffs. That's not bad.

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Speaker 1: Okay, before the season. Before the season anyway, just talk

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Speaker 1: about the matchup. The Lions are hurting a little bit.

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Speaker 1: They lost. They got a gift from the Giants. They

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Speaker 1: should have lost that game too, and they they gotta

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Speaker 1: do some winning. This is a huge game in Detroit.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 7: He didn't say how Dan Campbell was like winter Hole

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Speaker 7: and I think there's seven and five and he understands

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Speaker 7: the significance of that loss. That was a tough loss

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Speaker 7: to have. And now here come the resurgence of the

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Speaker 7: Cowboys that they have to handle. And the same Brown,

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Speaker 7: he's got an ankle injury.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be out for a couple of weeks, out.

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Speaker 7: A couple of weeks. You know. Ever since he did

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Speaker 7: that dance, everything's been downhill.

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Speaker 2: That's right, no doubt about it. We need to make

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Speaker 2: sure we put that out.

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Speaker 7: There out there. But I think the biggest issue with

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Speaker 7: the Lions is that they lost two of their coordinators.

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Speaker 7: One is with the Jets, one with the Bears. And

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Speaker 7: as much as we talk about you losing players, losing coaches,

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Speaker 7: especially the coordinators. To me, also a detriment to your club.

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Speaker 7: And I think Dan Campbell still calling the plays. This

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Speaker 7: is this is still a good game. This is still

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Speaker 7: a good football team. So let's not make it seem like.

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Speaker 2: They're Yeah, but they're now fifteen and two like they

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Speaker 2: were you that's.

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Speaker 7: Why not Yeah, they're not. No, but this is like

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Speaker 7: a playoff game. It has to be. Calvi is fighting

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Speaker 7: for their lives here and the Lions are too in

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Speaker 7: a lot of ways.

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Speaker 3: Calvin, I got I got two things for you. I

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Speaker 3: want to first talk about the I guess the impact

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Speaker 3: that Brian Schottenheimer's had there. Obviously, when people heard about

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Speaker 3: the higher there's a lot of pushbacks saying he was

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Speaker 3: the wrong guy and so well, a lot of people said,

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Speaker 3: I think you were on that train. No, no, But

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Speaker 3: I want to talk about him and the culture change

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Speaker 3: within an organization. It looks like the guys are really

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Speaker 3: buying into what he has to say, and he's been

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Speaker 3: masterful calling games as the coordinator as well. Talk about

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Speaker 3: that part of it. But also I want to talk

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Speaker 3: about the defensive turned around too. Obviously, this defense was

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Speaker 3: Abismo to start the season. Right now, seems like they've

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Speaker 3: gotten the flow and they you know, they've figured out

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Speaker 3: who they want to be defensively as well.

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Speaker 7: Bryan Schanhammer has always been a good people person and

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Speaker 7: he relates well to the players. As you guys know,

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Speaker 7: his dad was a head coach. He was a players coach,

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Speaker 7: old school and shot. He's kind of old school for

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Speaker 7: a lot of new school principles, so he resonates with

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Speaker 7: the players. He's always been a good play caller. When

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Speaker 7: he's with the Jets of Seattle, he always knows what

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Speaker 7: he's doing there. And then he's got two Dynamics deceivers

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Speaker 7: and George Pickers and city Land to help defensively. The

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Speaker 7: trade getting Clinton Williams and Logan Wilson was this. This

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00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 7: was a major boost to the Cowboys and also getting

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Speaker 7: some guys who were injured back on the field line

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Speaker 7: back of Tomorrow and Obashan coming back. Getting savonn Revel

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Speaker 7: who's a rookie in a big corner and you know

635
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 7: you need big corners these days. And they got him

636
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Speaker 7: in the third round out of East Carolina, and they

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Speaker 7: love how he plays, and he finally came back. So

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Speaker 7: getting some guys back on the field helps the scheme.

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Speaker 7: They made a little tweak to the scheme. They get

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Speaker 7: over a five man front.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so you got.

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Speaker 7: Kenny Clark, Quinton Williams and Olsa the Yazoo just rushing

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Speaker 7: the passer. Normally we say you rush the pastor from

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Speaker 7: the edges. Right. The Cowboys said, well, we don't have

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Speaker 7: a good great edge rushers. We got him up front

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Speaker 7: in the interior and and and they are just it's

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Speaker 7: been a fantastic turnaround defensively for this team.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And the only issue I have is with the last

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Speaker 1: name Shottenheim. Are any big playoff games?

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Speaker 3: I want you to oh Man trying to make a

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Speaker 3: legacy thing.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing? He could he could, no.

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Speaker 7: He could not. He talked about that was his dad.

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Speaker 7: The Cowboys are going to Denver, uh, and you know

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Speaker 7: they got they got tore up off the frame in Denver.

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Speaker 7: And he said, I had some bad memories in Denver.

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Speaker 7: He meant that with his dad, you know. Yeah so.

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Speaker 7: But but one of the interesting things about him is

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Speaker 7: that we were talking to him today and he says,

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Speaker 7: I can't worry about the past, right, And Kerry knows

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Speaker 7: this to be played. Just what happened.

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Speaker 2: He played for the Jets, That's all you need to know.

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Speaker 2: So he a little too hard.

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Speaker 3: Calvin Hey, that was from New York too.

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Speaker 2: He we winning years, guys were all right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he didn't play for Rex. Yeah, and so so Shan.

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Speaker 7: He understands the dynamic of you know what, it's a

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Speaker 7: one week at a time business.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 7: But some of these losses that they had early in

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Speaker 7: the years, like Carolina and Chicago and even Arizona, and

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Speaker 7: that was a bad loss. That was a whole in Arizona.

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Speaker 7: And they don't even have Colin Murray, right, they might

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Speaker 7: bite them down the stretch. If they would have wanted

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Speaker 7: these he would have been the Arizona. They're on a

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Speaker 7: four game one street and they're much better. They in

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Speaker 7: a much better position right right now. The need a

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Speaker 7: little bit of help and they gotta win out almost.

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Speaker 2: All right, last thing, we got less than a minute.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Dak Prescott has a chance at the MVP, because

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Speaker 1: I expect Matthew Stafford to start hearing that point. At

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Speaker 1: some point there'll be one or two bad stakers and

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys might run the table. I'm just telling you

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Speaker 1: that people are going to look because Dak has played

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Speaker 1: really well this year.

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Speaker 7: Yes he has, Yes he has. Only in the year.

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Speaker 7: I thought he was an MVP candidate. Then he got

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Speaker 7: slumped off a little bit. I think he might it

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Speaker 7: might be more realistic for him to get the Comeback

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Speaker 7: Player of the Year award and clashes. You know, he

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Speaker 7: tore his hamshare. He must like the last seven eight games.

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Speaker 7: But I think he did come Back Player of the Year.

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Speaker 2: All right, there you go. He would not be winning

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Speaker 2: the MVP. I'm all right.

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Speaker 7: Calvin, pray for carry.

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Speaker 1: Calvin Wackets of course find Dallas Cowboys beat writer for

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Morning News.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend. We appreciate you. I have a

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Speaker 2: going cal Thank you. All right. Coming up next, we'll talk.

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Speaker 1: About Fuzzy Zella, the golfer who's passed away and his legacy.

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Speaker 1: What should or shouldn't be included. We're gonna have that conversation. Next,

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Speaker 1: it is the Odd Couple on a Funky Flashback Friday.

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Speaker 8: Oh, be sure to catch live editions of the Odd

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Speaker 1: Now, this is funky Flashback Friday right here. Nice job, Alex.

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Speaker 1: It is the odd couple Rob Parker Kerry Rhodes in

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Speaker 1: had the passing of Fuzzy.

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Speaker 2: Zeller, the golf m right who. I think he won

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Speaker 2: two majors.

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Speaker 3: He won the Masters in his first appearance, right yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was only one of three.

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Speaker 1: And this struck me because you went to he was

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00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: seventy four years old, and of course I read his

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00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 1: bio and include in his bio was one of those

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Speaker 1: moments in your life where I'm just going to read it.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, well, what the part that's in here?

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Speaker 1: I should say this?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Whose career basically the two time Master's champ, whose career

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Speaker 1: was tainted by a racially insensitive joke about Tiger Woods,

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Speaker 1: has died. According to a longtime colleague, he was seventy four.

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Speaker 1: But my point is that was included in the lead

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Speaker 1: of his obituary. Yeah, inbounds, out of bounds where you

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Speaker 1: want to man.

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Speaker 3: That thing is very sensitive because obviously we all make

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Speaker 3: mistakes and we do things, we say things that we regret.

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Speaker 2: As a human. That shouldn't be the lead of his obituary.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if that's it's not the it's not

741
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Speaker 3: the lead, But you mean so it shouldn't be included

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Speaker 3: in the lead at all. No, Okay, I don't think

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Speaker 3: that's I don't think that's in I don't think you

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Speaker 3: can just say with one moment that that's indicative of

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Speaker 3: who he is, and so to say that his the

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Speaker 3: whole arc of his life in his career as a professional,

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Speaker 3: that being being included in it.

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Speaker 2: It can be a footnote, I think, but it's bigger.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say it's bigger than a footnote.

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Speaker 1: You think it's bigger than This was against Tiger Woods

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Speaker 1: at a time where he wanted to make Fried chicken

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Speaker 1: and watermelon jokes and whatnot, which was really at that time,

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Speaker 1: you got to remember where we were in this country,

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Speaker 1: what was going on. Okay, here's this young black golfer

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Speaker 1: who is just you know, taking the world by storm,

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Speaker 1: and he lost his endorsements.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he.

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Speaker 3: Suffered, that's on point. He paid for it. So why

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Speaker 3: did you talk about that in his obituary?

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Speaker 1: Because when you're do an obituary about somebody, it's your

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Speaker 1: whole life, good, bad or indifferent.

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Speaker 2: Yes it is.

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Speaker 3: I have not seen a lot of people with the

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Speaker 3: negative things they've done in their life and obituary. Oh yes,

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Speaker 3: really you reading, I've seen a lot of them, A

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Speaker 3: lot of people that you.

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Speaker 1: Think that when they put Richard Nixon's obituary, that you think,

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Speaker 1: despite he was president whatever, that that him stepping down

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Speaker 1: because of the Watergates scandal is not in the lead

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Speaker 1: of his Yes, who was forced to resign as president,

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Speaker 1: that that that's going to lead the obituary no matter what.

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Speaker 1: Because as a president, to have to be forced to resign,

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Speaker 1: which is really what happens, it's a huge part of

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Speaker 1: the story. And I'm just saying, like it can't be

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Speaker 1: just all these other great accolades.

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Speaker 2: That's not what obituary is.

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Speaker 1: Obituary is now, I'm not talking about your family obituary

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Speaker 1: who's written by or your uncle and they don't talk

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Speaker 1: about that your cousin was in rehab or anything. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's not that's a family obitu that's different. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about a obituary written by journalists who are looking at

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Speaker 1: and you cannot Despite Fuzzy Zeller's two masters, which you

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Speaker 1: just pointed out, it's not it does. It says two

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Speaker 1: times a winner, right, So it's not like that was

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Speaker 1: eliminated and the only thing they talked about was Tiger Wood, but.

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Speaker 2: It has to be included.

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Speaker 1: It was such a big deal, such a big uh

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Speaker 1: point in his career, and I think what hurt him

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Speaker 1: is that he never won again after that, to maybe

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Speaker 1: have a redemption story and where he's able to be

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Speaker 1: like who overcame something that could attain it his career.

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Speaker 3: Do you understand? That's what and yes, and that's how

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Speaker 3: I feel. Right, I'm like, that can't be the lead.

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Speaker 3: That can't be the guy's lead, because yes, we live

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Speaker 3: and we all make mistakes, but we're gonna pass away.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna talk about the thing that we did bad

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Speaker 3: and that's gonna be the lead thing like that.

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Speaker 1: Not not everybody, but it would have to be depending

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Speaker 1: on how big it is. I'm just saying not everything,

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Speaker 1: like if you had a hiccup or something, sure, but

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Speaker 1: in that case with Tiger Woods, want goes on to

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Speaker 1: be one of the greatest callers of all time at

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Speaker 1: that at that time, it was such a slap and

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Speaker 1: it was just him being racist, like really with the

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Speaker 1: fried chicken, Like, look like that was so what like,

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Speaker 1: really is that what you're coming with? And I think

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Speaker 1: that's why people like it really hurt him and the

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Speaker 1: way people looked at him. They used to love the

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Speaker 1: guy's personality and he was all this just it just

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Speaker 1: came off really bad and it's something that people stuck

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Speaker 1: with him.

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Speaker 3: And that's yeah, when you say it that way, with

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Speaker 3: the media like or right reporters making that right that call,

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Speaker 3: I can see it's no doubt.

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Speaker 2: All right, odd couple our number three