Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to your brand new Second Date podcast. Thanks
Speaker 1: for being here. And yesterday, I love when people dive
Speaker 1: into our comment section and tell us how they feel
Speaker 1: about the episode. Yeah, yesterday's hit a lot of strings.
Speaker 1: Yeah is that the right word for the right analogy?
Speaker 2: Strings?
Speaker 3: We'll never correct with sayings here anyways to make a burrow.
Speaker 1: All right, So, okay, if you didn't hear yesterday's episode,
Speaker 1: go back and listen to it. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: anger at the end. It was a big miscommunication over
Speaker 1: who gave this woman flowers, and it turned out it
Speaker 1: was the gym worker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who lied and assumed. Yeah, we had mixed reviews.
Speaker 3: One person said, I work at a gym, and I
Speaker 3: understand that you are categorized. Is just a gym employee.
Speaker 3: Someone else said I was hoping for a fifty Shades
Speaker 3: kind of story.
Speaker 4: Someone with a rich guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, tum into my helicopter.
Speaker 3: We need more men like Mitchell, brave, creatageous, and ready
Speaker 3: to chase a woman down in a parking lot. True
Speaker 3: love is one parking lot surprise away then, which someone
Speaker 3: replied and said, helll Brave, he lies to hung up
Speaker 3: on her on the show.
Speaker 4: He had to catfish. Nobody wants a guy.
Speaker 5: Like this.
Speaker 6: Chase a girl down in a parking.
Speaker 1: Lot that, hopefully in the daylight, makes it better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't grab her from behind, figuratively grab her heart.
Speaker 3: Yes, anyways, I love reading those though.
Speaker 7: Thanks guys.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll get some more comments about how you feel
Speaker 1: about today's Awkward Tuesday, because it's brand new and it
Speaker 1: starts right now.
Speaker 4: Having a best friend is a real blessing. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: to have someone who would do anything for you. They
Speaker 4: lend you money, they'll let you crash on their couch. Yeah,
Speaker 4: if not free, a really small sum. They'll be brutally
Speaker 4: honest about how that outfit you're wearing really looks on you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Someone needs to be yeah.
Speaker 4: Right, because they've got your back. And that's why our
Speaker 4: listener thought she was doing the right thing when she
Speaker 4: lied to her boss and to her entire company to
Speaker 4: help her best friend get hired.
Speaker 7: Ah.
Speaker 4: Well, now in retrospect, it may have been the worst
Speaker 4: decision that she has ever made. You're gonna understand why
Speaker 4: she had no choice but to reach out to us
Speaker 4: in your brand new awkward Tuesday phone call.
Speaker 8: Next, it's awkward, It's Tuesday. It's awkward Tuesday phone call.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of sayings that warn people about how
Speaker 4: you shouldn't date people that you work with. Office romances
Speaker 4: never end well, sayings that Brooke has completely ignored over
Speaker 4: the years, which is why all of our promo guys
Speaker 4: at our radio station never seemed to last.
Speaker 1: Girls they should be available as well. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm getting I really don't think it's that big of
Speaker 1: a deal.
Speaker 4: We could tell.
Speaker 1: I mean, they do, as long as it's not like
Speaker 1: a weird boss like situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I am curious. Are there any warnings about don't
Speaker 4: hire your friends to work with you at your company?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, friends in business don't mix. That is literally
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 4: Well, somebody didn't know about that, saying Brooke, because one
Speaker 4: of our listeners, Kristen, emailed saying she got one of
Speaker 4: her friends hired at her work. Now she has to
Speaker 4: make an awkward Tuesday phone call about it. That's actually
Speaker 4: where I do the line.
Speaker 1: I don't do friends and business stuff, but it ruins
Speaker 1: friendships every time.
Speaker 4: That's right. So, Kristen, welcome to the show.
Speaker 9: Hey, thanks for having me. Oh goodness.
Speaker 1: So wait, you're the one that got your friend the job.
Speaker 4: Yeah, tell us the story.
Speaker 7: So I have actually been at the same company for
Speaker 7: seven years, and I mean it's the longest job I've
Speaker 7: ever had. Things are going really well, but I love it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can keep a job.
Speaker 7: That long, right, Yeah, I'm doing something, right, I think.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: But then out of nowhere, I had an assistant quit
Speaker 7: and she was great, very solid, independable. It was just
Speaker 7: like a life choice change. Nothing. Oh, no su for
Speaker 7: dramatic or anything.
Speaker 5: The thought of one of.
Speaker 2: My assistants quit.
Speaker 4: I mean, if I hooked up with them first, then
Speaker 4: that's a thing, but just putting out of the blue.
Speaker 1: No, It's one thing to get a friend a job
Speaker 1: for like somebody else in the company, a different department.
Speaker 1: Are you saying you got your friend an assistant job
Speaker 1: and you're the boss.
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 7: Yes, this happens. And I'm like out to happy hour
Speaker 7: with my.
Speaker 9: Best friend Matt, and I tell him.
Speaker 7: About it and like gets so enthusiastic, freaks out, and
Speaker 7: he's like, oh my god, you have to pick me.
Speaker 7: I would be a great assistant.
Speaker 1: No, No, that would be a terrible assistant because you're
Speaker 1: best friends. Yeah, I mean, honestly, like, he may be
Speaker 1: a great assistant to anyone else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he just thinks, like.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, we'll be hanging.
Speaker 4: Out all day.
Speaker 2: It would be great.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I I wish you guys were at the
Speaker 7: happy hour that day. That would have helped my brain
Speaker 7: a little bit. Oh no, that's okay. I was thinking
Speaker 7: the same thing, like I don't know.
Speaker 4: About this, yeah, hesitation before you went through with it.
Speaker 7: But what happened totally totally, And so he's like really
Speaker 7: pleading for me to give him a chance, so against
Speaker 7: my better judgment and that little voice in my head
Speaker 7: that apparently is all of you, but you weren't there.
Speaker 7: I did. I hired him.
Speaker 4: What's happened since you hired him?
Speaker 7: Well, the most important thing was that when I hired him,
Speaker 7: it was under one stipulation, and it was that no
Speaker 7: one at the company could know that we were.
Speaker 4: Friends, because that would look bad, right, Yeah.
Speaker 7: And like I don't need anyone to know that. I
Speaker 7: don't need to bring my personal life in. But we
Speaker 7: put time to like not know each other. And the
Speaker 7: plan was that he could work there with me for
Speaker 7: a few months just as a way to get his
Speaker 7: foot in the door, and then he could apply to
Speaker 7: another position. Within a company and that would be good
Speaker 7: for him and then good for me and just like
Speaker 7: in the in between.
Speaker 1: So there was an end date too.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we could have a few fun months. But
Speaker 7: that was three years ago and he's sell my assistance.
Speaker 1: How's the friendship?
Speaker 9: I bet it's great. Yo, it is horrible.
Speaker 1: Oh no, who hates two more?
Speaker 7: I mean it's not that we hate each other, it's
Speaker 7: just like he's taken advantage of the situation. That's the problem.
Speaker 7: Like he's gotten to the pattern of skipping meetings or
Speaker 7: taking long lunches, or forgetting to do like little task
Speaker 7: like not huge things that would get fired, but just
Speaker 7: like little things here and there. And it's just it's
Speaker 7: not great. And I have been hinting at him for
Speaker 7: months to move on. I send him emails for applications
Speaker 7: and he just won't do it. He has like no initiative,
Speaker 7: And I'm like, did I make this too comfortable?
Speaker 1: Well, he's not getting reprimanded for anything. It sounds like
Speaker 1: a sweet job. He's taking a long lunch what he.
Speaker 4: Wants to like, Yeah, I mean at this point, you said,
Speaker 4: like you're completely frustrated, like you've totally had it with
Speaker 4: your friend.
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, it's striving crazy. I can't work with
Speaker 7: him anymore, and I just I.
Speaker 9: Guess I'm the point where I need help delivering the message,
Speaker 9: like very.
Speaker 7: Loud, very clear, it's time for you to move on
Speaker 7: without her inner friendship because I do love him and
Speaker 7: he still is my best friend, but with also not
Speaker 7: being his boss anymore.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're going to talk to him as his
Speaker 1: best friend, not as his boss.
Speaker 7: I think so. I think that's the idea because I
Speaker 7: don't want to fire him. I guess that would be
Speaker 7: the boss conversation would be that.
Speaker 4: Would he care if he got fired?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 4: Does he?
Speaker 7: I hope so?
Speaker 1: In unemployment if you get fired?
Speaker 6: Okay, so now, but you're right, I mean, still, that's
Speaker 6: all of his benefits.
Speaker 4: I'm sure he loves like collecting this paycheck of this nice,
Speaker 4: cushy job that he has and not having to work
Speaker 4: very much for all that money. But how do you
Speaker 4: politely deliver that message? That's on us? And I'm afraid
Speaker 4: of what Brooke is going to say.
Speaker 1: I'm a little more direct than you are, That's what I'm.
Speaker 4: Saying, and I like that. I don't know if there's
Speaker 4: away for Brooks to kindly tell a man you're not
Speaker 4: good enough right now.
Speaker 1: Be direct without being mean. And she's obviously been hinting
Speaker 1: for a long time, and the hinting isn't working. Like
Speaker 1: it's better for him, it's better for her, it's better
Speaker 1: for everybody.
Speaker 4: I cannot wait to see what that advice looks like.
Speaker 10: Coming from your brook Oh my god, I am dying
Speaker 10: to hear what we have to say to help you
Speaker 10: politely tell your friend slash assistant that he needs to
Speaker 10: move on from his job.
Speaker 7: I'm a guess looking forward to it too. I just
Speaker 7: want to.
Speaker 4: When we come back, give your advice and let you
Speaker 4: make your awkward Tuesday phone call coming up right after this.
Speaker 8: It's awkward, it's sad. It's awkward Tuesday phone call.
Speaker 4: I may not know much about my coworkers, but I
Speaker 4: know this. Nothing makes Brooks smile like the idea of
Speaker 4: a woman shaming her male counterpart telling him he's not
Speaker 4: doing good enough and he to get his act together.
Speaker 4: What did I do wrong there?
Speaker 1: I do not shame mail counterparts. They just shame you. Yes,
Speaker 1: And I also spend over a decade with you telling
Speaker 1: you how great you are.
Speaker 4: Not to my face, I've never heard that.
Speaker 1: You are such a pain.
Speaker 6: In my butt.
Speaker 4: And that's exactly what made one of our listeners email
Speaker 4: us for help. Our listener, Kristen secretly got her friend
Speaker 4: Matt hired to be her new assistant. Of course, they
Speaker 4: didn't tell anyone at the company they knew each other
Speaker 4: because I was just supposed to be a way to
Speaker 4: get his foot in the door and then he could
Speaker 4: climb the company ladder. But three years later, Matt is
Speaker 4: still her assistant and seems to be taking advantage of
Speaker 4: their friendship because he's skipping meetings, missing tasks that he's
Speaker 4: supposed to be doing. So at this point, Kristen's finally
Speaker 4: had enough. She needs advice on how to politely but
Speaker 4: firmly tell him time to saddle up pony boy, or
Speaker 4: however corporate people talk.
Speaker 1: I don't think they say that that's the email problem.
Speaker 4: I'm sure I don't really know.
Speaker 1: That's how the bosses emailed.
Speaker 4: Jeff so Brook, here's your moment. Tell Kristen how you
Speaker 4: would lay the hammer down on your mail count.
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to lay the hammer down
Speaker 1: like this is your best friend, Like a best friend
Speaker 1: is so important and that's what you want to keep
Speaker 1: at the end of this. So here, here's what you do.
Speaker 1: You say to him, Matt, you deserve more money. Everybody
Speaker 1: wants more money. And I'm sure Matt wants more money.
Speaker 4: Am I right?
Speaker 7: I would assume so everybody does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you're like, listen, I'm going to help you
Speaker 1: get more money. We are going to find you a
Speaker 1: better job in this company, and we are going to
Speaker 1: get you paid. We're going to get you what you deserve.
Speaker 1: Because then you're hyping him up and helping them move on.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess just making money the focus of it.
Speaker 7: Maybe we'll help his ears perk up a bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually like you. You're looking out for his
Speaker 4: financial interest to distract from your trying to get rid
Speaker 4: of him. So, Jose, what's your advice.
Speaker 6: Well, there's a famous line that says absence makes the
Speaker 6: heart grow fonder. So right now, you guys are just
Speaker 6: too close. Tell him you miss missing him? Huh right,
Speaker 6: you miss those times where you went wes without seeing him, Right.
Speaker 1: Now, that's gonna make someone feel good.
Speaker 4: You just don't appreciate him because he's there every day.
Speaker 6: Help him get a new job, and then you guys,
Speaker 6: can rekindle your best friendship.
Speaker 4: Christen, what do you think?
Speaker 7: Yeah, we are around each other a lot, so let's
Speaker 7: maybe that us.
Speaker 4: And a little laughter, little humor could help lighten the
Speaker 4: message of what we're really trying to say beneath the
Speaker 4: surface here, which is get the f out. So I
Speaker 4: feel like that was actually some pretty good advice we
Speaker 4: gave you. You can do that you want with it.
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna dial your assistant slash best friend Matt's number.
Speaker 4: Hopefully this awkward Tuesday phone call goes smooth. He's on
Speaker 4: the job right now.
Speaker 2: Right, he's on the clock.
Speaker 4: Yeah, here we go. Good luck. We'll jump and feel
Speaker 4: like you need some help. But I'm dialing here right now.
Speaker 7: Hello, Hey Matt, It's Kristen.
Speaker 5: Oh hey girl, he disappeared on me earlier.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just had to step out for a second.
Speaker 5: Right, So whose one are you calling you from?
Speaker 7: I can't tell you that right now.
Speaker 5: I am your insistent you know, if you remember, you
Speaker 5: do have to tell me things.
Speaker 7: Oh, yes, I remember. No, I'm just I'm dealing with
Speaker 7: I'm just dealing with something.
Speaker 2: Do you want to spill some tea on something in
Speaker 2: the office?
Speaker 9: No, it's not about our co workers.
Speaker 7: It's Matt. It's actually about you and me.
Speaker 5: What what about you and me? Wait? Are you mad?
Speaker 5: I missed the budget meeting yesterday? I told you. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I forgot to tell you. I was just getting a haircut.
Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, that's a good example.
Speaker 7: But I uh, that's well. You know, I love you
Speaker 7: as a friend first and foremost.
Speaker 9: Right, girl, I.
Speaker 5: Don't like the tone of your voice right now.
Speaker 7: I just want to remind you, like, rewind three years
Speaker 7: about our whole like work arrangements when you got here, right, yeah, that.
Speaker 5: Was like decades ago. We were literally baby, it.
Speaker 7: Was three years ago. But look, this position was supposed
Speaker 7: to get your foot in the door, and like, how
Speaker 7: you haven't moved on?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 9: What are you?
Speaker 5: What are you saying?
Speaker 7: I'm saying you need to go out there. You need
Speaker 7: to be making more money. Okay.
Speaker 2: I just can't hide it anymore from you, I guess
Speaker 2: because I've been feeling a little guilty myself. And I'm
Speaker 2: actually in the final interviews for the director of Business Development,
Speaker 2: and you know, I've been wanting to tell you, but
Speaker 2: I was like scared to tell you. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: does this have something to do with that, like did
Speaker 2: you find out or wait?
Speaker 7: What what are you talking about?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 2: I knew they knew you were going to probably be
Speaker 2: jealous because that position makes more money than you, and
Speaker 2: I just didn't know really how to go about you know.
Speaker 7: Wait what, Oh my.
Speaker 4: God, that's great news. Congratulation, it's good for him.
Speaker 5: Wait what what is going on?
Speaker 9: Wait?
Speaker 4: I don't let me jump in first here, Kristen, because
Speaker 4: I need to tell Matt. Hey, dude, you're on the
Speaker 4: radio right now.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to confute. Am I getting a trip
Speaker 5: or something?
Speaker 9: What's going on?
Speaker 1: I wish you're could do those things.
Speaker 4: You really like to read into stuff deeply, don't you, Matt.
Speaker 4: But this is just a radio show called Brooke and
Speaker 4: Jeffrey in the Morning, and this segment is called the
Speaker 4: Awkward Tuesday Phone.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's awkward.
Speaker 2: So so we could she know about my new jobs?
Speaker 4: I don't think so, especially not the way that Kristen
Speaker 4: was reacting. Kristen, do you want to talk to him
Speaker 4: and tell him what?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Thank you? Sorry, I'm like fuming. I don't really
Speaker 7: understand did you even apply for it?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 7: How long have you known? I'm just very confused right now. No.
Speaker 2: I I literally was having lunch with your boss a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, and he just started asking me
Speaker 2: more about my career, and you know, the job opening,
Speaker 2: like it just kind of came up naturally, and he
Speaker 2: was insisted, So who.
Speaker 7: Is my assistant is going to be? You're going to
Speaker 7: be my superior. That's what's happening right now.
Speaker 2: I mean, not like directly, but I'm going to be
Speaker 2: making more money than you.
Speaker 4: So but that's what she says you wanted for him, right, Kristen,
Speaker 4: for him to make more money.
Speaker 7: Wait a minute, okay, yeah, hang on, wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Brook, what good advice?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, is this a job you wanted, Kristen?
Speaker 1: Were you going after this position?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 7: I hadn't gone after because this hasn't even been listed yet.
Speaker 7: This was not public information.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 2: I am just like a bit confused now because I
Speaker 2: thought you knew about the job, But now it's just
Speaker 2: sounding like.
Speaker 5: You're, I don't know, a bit jealous or something.
Speaker 7: Oh I'm not jealous. Okay, So if you saw I
Speaker 7: knew about the job, why didn't you bring it up?
Speaker 7: Why would you keep.
Speaker 2: That You told me not to say anything and he
Speaker 2: said specifically that it wasn't going to be posted. It
Speaker 2: was kind of like an internal thing. They were trying
Speaker 2: to make things smooth and easy. And then I kind
Speaker 2: of thought, that's what this call was about when you
Speaker 2: were calling me, like you had found out or something.
Speaker 5: But what were you even calling for? Oh, I I.
Speaker 7: Was gonna say. I was gonna say a lot of things.
Speaker 7: I guess I was going to say, you deserve more money.
Speaker 4: But I sounds like exactly what you wanted for your
Speaker 4: friend is now happening for your friend in an even
Speaker 4: better way than could have ever imagined.
Speaker 2: I mean, Kristin, and we're being completely honest here, Like
Speaker 2: I just feel like it was starting to get a
Speaker 2: bit stale, like even our relationship, our friendship dynamic, and
Speaker 2: I really just needed a place to grow, and I
Speaker 2: just feel like I wasn't really growing anymore with you
Speaker 2: as my boss.
Speaker 4: Well that's not Apparently your hair was growing enough where
Speaker 4: you needed to get a haircut during the last meeting
Speaker 4: that you're supposed.
Speaker 2: To be at.
Speaker 4: But still you had already known about this promotion before that.
Speaker 2: I mean I only missed like a handful of meetings
Speaker 2: probably in the last month, and they weren't really important,
Speaker 2: so what meeting is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, I mean, Kristin, I'm taking your silence as
Speaker 4: you're totally thrilled with how this call is going and it's.
Speaker 7: Just insane crazy, and I think I'm just gonna have
Speaker 7: to take the day. I love you all you've been
Speaker 7: to help, but I'm I'm seeking were here.
Speaker 5: Girl, you need to take the day. I mean we
Speaker 5: have we have drinks to get and celebrate and.
Speaker 1: I love that, well drinks on that this time since
Speaker 1: he can afford it, and it's a.
Speaker 7: Wonder for you.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't even be here right now. So you helped
Speaker 5: me into this point in my life too, So I
Speaker 5: don't know why you're so pressed.
Speaker 7: Uh huh.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, it sounds like you're now your friendship
Speaker 4: is going to be back in a better place now
Speaker 4: that Matt's going to be moving on and up the
Speaker 4: company ladder, and Kristin, you sound totally happy with where
Speaker 4: you are, so that's awesome.
Speaker 7: You guys are funny. You guys are really funny.
Speaker 1: Freaking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 4: You know, Matt definitely seemed confused there, probably because he
Speaker 4: didn't get to fully understand the whole reason why Kristin
Speaker 4: was calling and needing help. In this conversation, It's probably
Speaker 4: for the best that we didn't get into the details.
Speaker 6: Of the listeners got all the details, and he still
Speaker 6: doesn't understand.
Speaker 1: And I'm really hoping that she's upset at her boss
Speaker 1: and not at mad like I think. Once Yeah, once
Speaker 1: she processes everything, I'm sure she'll be really happy for.
Speaker 4: Her best friend. I mean, he was her assistant for
Speaker 4: three whole years, and it might take her another three
Speaker 4: years just to get over the sudden promotion out.
Speaker 9: Of the blue.
Speaker 4: But in the end, it sounds like they have a
Speaker 4: really tight bond and this will actually be a good
Speaker 4: thing for their friendship.
Speaker 1: Yes, it'll be good for her career, but it be
Speaker 1: good for their friendship for sure.
Speaker 6: I'll be great for Matt's.
Speaker 4: Career based on his work habits that we heard. I
Speaker 4: don't know if he's going to be able to handle
Speaker 4: that director job.
Speaker 1: I don't know so far. I think that's the thing
Speaker 1: about directors. Have you not noticed they don't care? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't go to things.
Speaker 6: Or was she setting up pointless meeting because he was like, yeah.
Speaker 4: And I'm over here thriving. Yeah, everybody the company loves me.
Speaker 1: It's a power move to skip stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so just remember, if you want to get an
Speaker 4: awkward Tuesday phone call, you can always do it email
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