1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: From luck and load. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Strategies viving and thriving in this way. The first one 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: is the serenity prayer. Understand that you cannot change broken people. 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: This was a lesson that took me a good part 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: of my life. 6 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: To accept. 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: Because I think I'm superman. I can fix any problem. 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: I can solve anything. People come to me with all 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: sorts of problems and I solve them all day. It's 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: very rewarding. You get a god complex. Look at me, 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: I can do this, And I realized that's a drug 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: I feed off of and I've had to learn it'll 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: also take you down. But I also realized over a 14 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: period of time that you cannot change people from their core. 15 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: It's a fool's errand but more than that, it's diving 16 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: into the water to save someone that's going to drown 17 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 2: you too. You can throw them a lifeline and if 18 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: they kick it back, you can recognize that's a decision 19 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: they made. They have agency, they have authority over their 20 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: decision making, whatever that may be, and at some point 21 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: you have to live with that. It's hard because we 22 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: want to fix people, we want to change people, and 23 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: that is one of the core problems with human relations. 24 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: Desire to change other people. And in many cases, the 25 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: desire to change other people is really the desire to 26 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: control other people. And that gets to our basic animal 27 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: instinct of control and dominance. It's natural throughout the animal kingdom. 28 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: That's what the hierarchy of species is all about. The 29 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: predator prey. The desire to change someone is the desire 30 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: to control someone. But here's the part that's important. You 31 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: got to figure out which fights are worth fighting. You 32 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: got to figure out which behaviors are worth defending. Is 33 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: it worth it if you think that people ought to 34 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: be allowed to cut? Is it worth to go into 35 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: a children's school dropping f bombs? I hope you wouldn't 36 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: do that, even if you don't think there's anything wrong 37 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: with it's just another word. You're picking a fight. It 38 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: really has no benefit to you to win. And I 39 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: see this all the time. You're picking a fight over 40 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: a principle. It's not even really a deep principle. You 41 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: didn't change anybody's mind. You just showed that you were 42 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: willing to thwart the rule. What did you gain? No 43 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: one was inspired by you. Whatever their level of respect 44 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: for you was, they have less of it now than 45 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: they did before, So you have to decide what do 46 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: I want to offer my opinion on, what do I 47 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: want to say publicly? 48 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: Who do I. 49 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: Want to be that I think it's very important people 50 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: understand that. That me showing that, expressing that. I think 51 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: a lot of people get themselves in trouble on social 52 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: media by saying things for shock value because they're kind 53 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: of curious if it will. 54 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: Cause them a and by the time it does cause 55 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: them a problem, it's too late. Well that was dumb. 56 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: How many times do we do that, we provoke something 57 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: just to see what will happen? First time, Mom told 58 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: you don't don't touch the flame. Oh I got to 59 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: touch slave now? 60 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: Oh damn? 61 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: And then what do they say, idiot? We told you, 62 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: I know. But this will be Mom, This will be 63 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: a lifelong problem for me. I will be warned not 64 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: to touch the flame, and I will touch the flame. 65 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: But here's the part that's very important, and that is 66 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: understanding that we are complicit, which means involved in allowing 67 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: this to happen. And the reason is for all our 68 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: tough talk about how we won't bid to me, we 69 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: also won't lift a finger to help another person. I 70 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: watched this all the time. Let me tell you how 71 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: this plays out. There's a group of guys got their lunchbox. 72 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: Their wives made them send them to work. They work 73 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: for a big company, but they're out at the job site. 74 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: Somebody makes a comment, somebody adds to the comment. It's 75 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: like telephone game. It starts going. It's all guys and 76 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: they're going around, and then finally somebody says something that 77 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: someone else views as offensive and they run tell. Because 78 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: that's what people do. They run tell, And then the 79 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: question becomes what do you do about it? The question 80 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 2: becomes do you say that man is not at fault 81 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 2: unless everyone is fired, he shouldn't be fired. Most people 82 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: don't do that. Most people hide, And here's how they justified. 83 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm all for telling Joe's but man, he 84 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: went too far? Did he Have you never told that 85 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: same joke? Well, yeah, I mean yeah, I guess I have. 86 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: So why didn't you say that that's a joke. Everybody 87 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 2: in the group is told, Well, he was an idiot 88 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: for telling it at the time. 89 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: You could have told him at the time, but you didn't. 90 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: That's the real that's the real interesting study of how 91 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: many people will judge another person for getting a DWI 92 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: when but for pure luck, they don't have one, they 93 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: could have had twenty five. Most people, I'll bet you 94 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: ninety of people who drink at all. If you don't drink, 95 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: you're probably not going to run the riskiness. But for 96 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: people who drink at all, I think over ninety percent 97 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: of people if they're honest, especially as low as the 98 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: number has come now, I think it's point oh eight. 99 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: Over ninety percent of people would have blown hot. And 100 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: always you have no idea, get yourself a breathalyzer. You'd 101 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: be shocked, tough as but you don't feel any compassion 102 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: for that person at that moment. 103 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: You know, we've been talking about fire. 104 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: And indeed the incompetence of Los Angeles government, in California government, 105 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: the snail darter and the reservoirs that weren't full, and 106 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: the hydrants that didn't have any water, and now the 107 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: zoning restrictions and the development and all of this. We'veen 108 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: talking about the failures of so many people and the 109 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: criminal actions by people who've started these fires, and the 110 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: idiots who want to blame it on climate change, a 111 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: global warming, when much of it is man made. But 112 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: I want to make sure that in so doing, we 113 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: don't miss out on something else that is very important, 114 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: and that is the good people, very good people who 115 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 2: jumped in there to fight the fires, many of them citizens, 116 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: many of them homeowners themselves, and the people who do 117 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: it for a living, which makes it no less noble. 118 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: There are people from my state and from many states. 119 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 2: Texas sent a lot of folks to help fight those fires. 120 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: I have a nephew who's also named Michael Berry, who's 121 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: a firefighter, and I'm incredibly proud of him. It's what 122 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 2: he's wanted to do since he was a kid. Is 123 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: fight fires, be a fireman. It's a culture. It's a calling, 124 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: it really is. It is a ministry. It is a calling. 125 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: It is a service. A listener named Martha sent me 126 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: an email a few days ago and asked if I 127 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: had ever heard Paul Harvey's tribute to Fireman. 128 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: I had, but she wouldn't know this. 129 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm a bit obsessive when it comes to studying radio grades, 130 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: and Paul Harvey is a radio great. Now that doesn't 131 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: mean we're not going to play it, Ramon. I'm just 132 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: answering her question. Yes, of course I had heard of 133 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: Paul Harvey. No, I don't think that makes me a 134 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: big shot? Can I tell my story? I love Paul Harvey. 135 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: I love everything about it. I actually thought, and I'm 136 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: in the minority in this. I actually thought that when 137 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: his son took over for him when he died, and 138 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: his son did a pretty good job at it. 139 00:09:58,960 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: He writes, like. 140 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: Jimmy Mike Rowe, Mike Row's whole deal is patterned on 141 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: Paul Harvey. Okay, yeah, Ramon has it and he wants 142 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: me to play it and he wants me to stop talking. 143 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: So here it is. 144 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 2: It's it's Paul Harvey's rest of the story on the fireman. 145 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 4: Nobody knows why fireman or fireman. Not even they can 146 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 4: tell you why, but. 147 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 5: It is signed. Somebody try. 148 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 4: Firefighting is the most risky of all good ended jobs, 149 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 4: yet also the one where most workers are most likely 150 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 4: to punch you in the early It's hard enough to 151 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 4: believe that it's impossible to explain it. 152 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: Fire and ice. 153 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 4: Are uncomfortable separately or together. Wives hate the hours, kids 154 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 4: love the noise, fire and ice. Any day at the 155 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 4: firehouse to beil from Hell puts their stature on the 156 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 4: horn with a them a kinder box addressed into bunker pens, rubber, 157 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 4: turnout coat, grab the mask and go. 158 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 5: Minutes later you're on. 159 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 4: Site as others run out, you go in. If you 160 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: need all you can carry, the four pound acts of 161 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 4: six foot poop, the halligan pry bar, the ceiling concealing 162 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 4: the smoldering has to come down, and it's one of 163 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 4: those stubborn tin ones. In the scary dark, with heat 164 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 4: eating your ears, you're gouging out and carrying loose and 165 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 4: pulling apart, dumping hair and tasting black. Your windpipe is 166 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 4: closing and you've lost. 167 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 5: Track of which way is out. Is it really worth it? 168 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 4: They budgeted and cut your ladder company from six men 169 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: to five, so now everything you do is sixteen point 170 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 4: sixty seven percent more difficult and more dangers. Your air 171 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: is low inside your mask, you're throwing up. There's a 172 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 4: searing pember down your neck, touring gloves exposed, a smashed hand. 173 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 4: So you emerge from the holocaust hugging with your elbows. 174 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 4: Somebody sings kitten. If you had minutes of exhilaration un 175 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: the bouncing rear, amount of the screening one hundred foot 176 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: sea grave, hours of using all you've learned and learning more. 177 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 5: Now you're back at the station house. 178 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 4: And you've unstuffed your nostrils with soapy fingers. You can 179 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: almost breathe again. Next time the tedious hours as you 180 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 4: and Willow getg up on grimy tools, they clean up 181 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 4: crew at the firehouses. You when windows need washing and 182 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: toilets need cleaning, and floors need mopping, and deads need making, 183 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 4: you do it. Fire and ice they both go with 184 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 4: the job. Then there's that night another engine company gets 185 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 4: there first. You see this web. Hear rookie hot dogging ahead. 186 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 4: His academy boots are still shining. You're losing inside the 187 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 4: crackling dart. You forget about him until your helmet warning 188 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 4: bell says, get out. The battalion chief is calling you off. 189 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 5: You get out. The other guy didn't. 190 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 4: He'd heard a scream from the bottom of burning basement 191 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 4: stairs and he'd headed down there. Went on the bubbling 192 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 4: tar paper roof the three ton compressor broke through that day. 193 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 4: We lost two orious firemen. Cry, but only briefly, because 194 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: now comes the inevitable and ever more paperwork, just in 195 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 4: case Osha complains or somebody sees is. 196 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 5: It worth it? 197 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: Your b crew pumper swapped his day shift so some 198 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 4: family guy could be home for his kid's birthday, and 199 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 4: then out down toward a falso arm. Ever, body gets 200 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 4: blindsided by a hot rod driven by a drunk fire 201 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 4: and ice. 202 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 5: The intercom marks again, this time at the. 203 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 4: Warehouse and that multiple blaze probably torched on side. Engine 204 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: man drake with icicles dagging a three quarter preconnect pros 205 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: hose are waiting for your big line. Latterman can't make 206 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 4: the building without you, search, rescue, ventilate. Eventually it's over 207 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 4: and out. He smokes margitant sleepers and brung out of 208 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 4: this one. You won behind the graffiti walls. You saved 209 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 4: what you could, but the raging plays that wanted to 210 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 4: consume adjacent buildings did not, And it did not because 211 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: you were there. 212 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 5: Stag get to buy a house before clean up. 213 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 4: You and the guys should have spelled tired but stimulated, 214 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 4: drinking coffee, laughing, feeling good about one another. Nobody outside 215 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: your world. 216 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 5: Can ever know this feeling. 217 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 4: In any other uniform, you get streets named after you 218 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 4: for killing people. In this one, you risk your life 219 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: to save people until one day you run out of 220 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 4: chances and in one final tire. 221 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 5: Either you buy it or you don't. 222 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 4: If you don't, it's only eventually they brushed off with 223 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 4: the punity pension. And yet there is no third way 224 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 4: that you've ever leave this job. And you're dogging even 225 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 4: God knows why. You're out of the shower. Now most 226 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: of the grime and some of the centenceism are down 227 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 4: the drain. When you hear a strangely come in your 228 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 4: voice saying it is worth it, It is worth it. 229 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 4: And you're hearing this voice, and there's nobody there but you. 230 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: It's a quiet voice from nowhere saying, for salvage and 231 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 4: things and people. 232 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: From planes, I have to rely on your hands. 233 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: And you look around still nobody. But when you get 234 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 4: over your incredula be you feel better. Suddenly, Today's crew 235 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 4: cook in the kitchen, hollers chow. It's trying to eat 236 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 4: snows by gross beef today. 237 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 5: That'll be good. You'll eat fast. You'll want to eat 238 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 5: fast for any next salon. You'll want to be ready. 239 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 5: Paul Harvey. 240 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 4: Good, Then, kiss of the World as we know it 241 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 4: to Michael buries you the world. 242 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: Just and we just played Paul Harvey's tribute to fireman, 243 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: and I will tell you this. I could play Paul 244 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: Harvey for you all day long, because there's two types 245 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: of people. The people who've never heard Paul Harvey and 246 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: they're going to go, Wow, that's interesting. And then there's 247 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: the people who did hear Paul Harvey and listen to 248 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: him every morning, and they miss him, just as we 249 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: do with Rush Limbaugh. We honor and pay tribute to 250 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: those who came before us, not just because we make 251 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: a living doing what they did, but because they are icons. 252 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: They're part of our lives, they're part of our histories. 253 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: I would like to play a rest of the story 254 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: from Paul Harvey. We pay tribute to Paul Harvey. We 255 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: haven't done it in a while a fair amount, because 256 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: he's part of the reason we get to do what 257 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: we do, and we think it's important to do that, 258 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: but also because we find it very entertaining, and we 259 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: think you will too. I've said all along, I don't 260 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: believe a quote unquote talk show has to only be 261 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: the host talking and giving his opinions the entire time, 262 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: or interviewing guests the entire time. What I've always wanted 263 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: to be is kind of the conductor of an orchestra 264 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 2: of awesome things happening on the radio. So if it's 265 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: a guest who has something interesting to say, even if 266 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: I already know a fair amount about that subject, but 267 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: they can offer a perspective, then we're going to do that. 268 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: But that's also why we spend a lot of time 269 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 2: consuming other content and sharing with you things that were 270 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: said by other people in their own voice, because I 271 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: think I think that's how you pay tribute. I think 272 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: that's how you honor those people. I really do so. 273 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: In the course of an average show, especially the show, 274 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: we will play five to ten audio clips, sometimes more 275 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 2: than that. 276 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: And some people think, are you being lazy? 277 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: You don't know me? Ask my family, ask my friends. 278 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: I can talk all day, every day, and I love 279 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: to do it, but I feel it's a little dishonest 280 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: when I'm listening to someone's opinion on something and I go, 281 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: that's a very interesting point, and then I steal it 282 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 2: as my own. A lot of people in media do that. 283 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: I think it's a bad thing. 284 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: I really do. I think it's a bad thing to do. 285 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: I think it is. 286 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: It is a plagiarism at a minimum, and I think 287 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: it's deceitful. I think it's a sign, because look, everything 288 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: is derivative of something else. None of us landed here 289 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: the smartest person in the history of the world, and 290 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 2: none of us arrived at our own opinions completely on 291 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 2: our own. No man is an island Milton sort of stuff. 292 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: We had teachers, parents, coaches, writers, novelists, movie characters, and 293 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 2: from those things we developed our opinions. And and many times, 294 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: you know, it's funny. 295 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: I go back and listen to a lot of old 296 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: audio of Rush, of Paul Harvey. 297 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 2: And many as the time I will hear them say 298 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 2: something that I almost think to myself, you ripped me off, 299 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: Paul Harvey, I said that, Or you ripped me off Rush, 300 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: I said that, And then I realized, no, I ripped 301 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: him off. Didn't even realize it. How many times? How 302 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: many times have you said something that when you said it, 303 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: you heard. 304 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: Your mom or your dad, or your grandma or your grandpa. 305 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 2: Or your coach or your teacher or your first boss, 306 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: you heard their voice in you realize that stuck. I 307 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: didn't intentionally mimick that person, It just kind of stuck. 308 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: Isn't that weird? How that happens? 309 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: But that's how we all ended up here. This isn't 310 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: a you didn't build that moment. This is a I'm 311 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: giving credit to the people who are really good at 312 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 2: what they do that helped form what we do. Plus 313 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: I hope I'm sharing something with you that you go, well, 314 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: this is a this is a great way to get 315 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: home today, Michael. You don't have to talk politics all 316 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: day every day now. The rest of the story. 317 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 6: Mr Was a twenty one year young inmate at San Quentin, 318 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 6: charging restlessly in his cart after lights out. He'd set 319 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 6: foot on the road to prison years before. It had 320 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 6: started with petty theft and bad checks and then stolen cars. 321 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 6: Finally got himself drunk and tried to knock over the 322 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 6: roadhouse near Bakersfield, and that's what brought him as stretch 323 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 6: and a joint. By now, there had been several months 324 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 6: long enough to see it all. He'd seen one con 325 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 6: kill another over a simple insult, yet another inmate purposedly 326 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 6: scalded to death in the prison laundry. 327 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: And the more such he saw, the more. 328 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 6: He wondered whether he'd ever see the other side of 329 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 6: those tall gray walls again. So Mr was lying awake 330 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 6: that night, tossing and turning, trying to fight off every 331 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 6: thought but the plane at hand. 332 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: Because although in. 333 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 6: Thirteen years there had not been an escape from San Quin, 334 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 6: come sent up em I would have his chance to 335 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 6: do just that. You see in the prison furniture factory, 336 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 6: inmate craftsmen had been making a desk for a judge's 337 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 6: chamber in San Francisco, an enormous desk weighed about one thousand, 338 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 6: five hundred pounds. Next morning it was due to be 339 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 6: picked up and trucked down. But what prison authorities did 340 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 6: not know was there were roomen that urge desk for 341 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 6: two full grown men to hide. One of the cons 342 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 6: already he booked for passage was Jim Hendrix, known to 343 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 6: his buddies as Rabbit, and the other that's. 344 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: Right, the other was Mr. 345 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 6: Rabbit Liked Mr did his best to talk the younger 346 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 6: Cohn out of escaping. The elder, seventy two five to 347 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 6: life sentences back to back, felt that he had nothing 348 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 6: to lose, but Mr. Well, he'd be out in a 349 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 6: couple of years. The risk wasn't worth it. But MR's 350 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 6: mind was made up. He'd been over and over the plan. 351 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 3: In his mind. He was sure there was no way. 352 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: It could fail, and it did not. 353 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 6: The judge's desk was picked up on time, the presiding 354 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 6: gate opened wide for the delivery truck to get away 355 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 6: car was waiting near Oakland to Bay Bridge, and so 356 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 6: Rabbit became the first con in thirteen years to break 357 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 6: out a San Quentin and m are. He stayed behind 358 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 6: funny thing. He was all set to go. Look he 359 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 6: poured to his freedom, but at the last moment he 360 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 6: got cold feet and turned it down. Weeks later, a 361 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 6: highway patrolman stopped Rebbit for a minor traffic violation. Grabbit panic, 362 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 6: He shot the officer dead, and not long after that 363 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 6: they caught Rebbit and sent him to the vast chamber. 364 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 3: Now that Mr. 365 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 6: Escaped with Rebbit, he'd probably have been there when his 366 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 6: buddy pulled the trigger, and that would have made him 367 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 6: an accessory. But instead, when Revit ran, Mr stayed and 368 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 6: served his time to a parole two years later, and 369 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 6: he went straight. It would have been so easy to 370 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 6: sneak out in the judge's desk. 371 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: But when Mr came to the crossroads, he chose the 372 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: right road. 373 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 6: He lived to build a career which has thrilled the 374 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 6: country music covers ever since, for more than forty years, 375 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 6: you have been humming the tune of Mr Merle Ronald Haggard. 376 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 6: That's right, Merle Haggard, only now you know them Mourish, 377 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 6: love the story they are jobs. 378 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: Don't use that tone to me. Not a joke. 379 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 6: That's sarcastic, contemptuous tone. That means you know everything because 380 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 6: you're a man, and I know nothing because I'm a woman. 381 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: That is not a joke. That is a natural fact. 382 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 2: The Michael By Show, we heard The Michael Berry Show 383 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 2: love Paul Harvey, and we have decided to play some 384 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: more Paul Harvey for you today, mostly because we also 385 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: want to listen to it. The craft of storytelling, which 386 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: I believe to be a very important thing. Many of 387 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: you have heard me say this again and again and again. 388 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 2: Teach your children to tell stories. 389 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: And people. We emi with how I do that? 390 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: Okay, If I told you raise your child to be 391 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: a self respecting adult, you got to figure it out. 392 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: But once it's planted in your mind how important this 393 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: is to do, then you will start thinking about ways 394 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: to do it. What I do with my kids is 395 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: start with tell me about your day, and I know 396 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: what you're gonna say, Michael, when I asked my kids 397 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 2: tell me about that? 398 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: It is fine? What happened nothing? What'd you do? Not much? 399 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: You've got to get better at asking your questions, and 400 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: you've got to tell them, hey, look, I'm gonna find 401 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: out what happened today, And then the process, you're gonna 402 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 2: get better at answering questions. Because you're gonna have to 403 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: answer questions from your spouse, from your kids, Why Daddy, 404 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: why mama? 405 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: Why? 406 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to answer questions during an interview, You're 407 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 2: gonna have to answer questions your entire life, from your boss. 408 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: You might as well learn to get good at it. 409 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 2: So let's take a new approach, because I'm going to 410 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: sit here and ask these questions a one hundred different ways. 411 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: And part of me being a parent is teaching you 412 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 2: to respond to questions. Now, if you can do it 413 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 2: in such a way that you tell a story, oh 414 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: the meek shall inherit the earth. But I think the storytellers, 415 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 2: I think they just grab hold of it and take it. 416 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 2: A good salesman is always a good storyteller. A good 417 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: pastor is always a good storyteller. A good coach, storyteller. 418 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: When you wooed your girlfriend to be your wife, you 419 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: told a story. You don't realize that you might not 420 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: have call to the story, but that's what you were doing. 421 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 2: I study Paul Harvey. I want you to listen, to enjoy, 422 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 2: but I also want you to think about how he 423 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: tells a story. 424 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: How have previous. 425 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: Nations gone from being strong, prosperous nations to a rumbling 426 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 2: shell of their former selves. Here is Paul Harvey giving 427 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: a history lesson in a piece called Freedom to Chains. 428 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: This is as good. Mark this one. 429 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: Go look it up on YouTube or rumble or wherever 430 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: you get your content. 431 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: And share it because this one, this is good right 432 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: here now. 433 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 3: Then what makes a nation strong? Taxes? There's nothing new 434 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 3: about those either. 435 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 6: The first income tax was paid by Abraham, was written 436 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 6: on a rock by the hand of Divinity and handed 437 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 6: to Moses at the top of Mount Signia. And you 438 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 6: might want to remember this. It was at the flat 439 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 6: rate of ten percent. It promised the wrath of God 440 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 6: on anybody who tampered with or violated that law. Christ 441 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 6: was born in Bethlehem because Joseph was on his way 442 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 6: to pay his taxes. Joseph was a relatively well to 443 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 6: do landowner of the house and lineage of David. Yet 444 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 6: the taxes exacted by Caesar Augustus were so exorbitant that 445 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 6: he didn't have enough money left over to employ a 446 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 6: trusted messenger for the mission. So though his wife was 447 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 6: great with child, he made the journey himself. And Christ 448 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 6: was born in Bethlehem because Joseph was on his way 449 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 6: to pay his taxes. 450 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 3: And Christ was. 451 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 6: Born in a manger because there was a housing shortage 452 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 6: when he got there. 453 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: Our problems are not new. 454 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 6: At Runnymead, the Magna Carter was handed to King John 455 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 6: on the end of a sword, denying to royalty the 456 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 6: right of unlimited taxation. Yet you know it was for us, 457 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 6: the American people, to become the first and recorded history 458 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 6: ever voluntarily to surrender our rights to private property. 459 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 3: Yes, we did with. 460 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 6: An innocent sounding constitutional amendment, the sixteenth, which says that 461 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 6: Congress will have the power to lay and collect taxes 462 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 6: on incomes from whatever source derived. And we forgot to 463 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 6: put any limit on the extent to which we could 464 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 6: tax ourselves. Conceivably, we could be taxed out of all 465 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 6: private property. We could be taxed up ninety percent, but 466 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 6: one hundred percent. We could awaken one morning and find 467 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 6: that the government owns the farm, and the house and 468 00:28:55,280 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 6: the car, and has a mortgage on the church. Legally, historically, 469 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 6: whenever any nation has taxed its people more than twenty 470 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 6: five percent of their national income, the initiative was destroyed 471 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 6: and that nation was headed for economic eclipse. Presently, the 472 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 6: American people are being texted thirty three percent of their 473 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 6: total income. History says, We'll roll forward on momentum for 474 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 6: a little while, but we'd better get some more gas 475 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 6: in the tank pretty quick. You see, ours is not 476 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 6: the first by George good government. 477 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: To arise on the world stage. 478 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 6: There have been several Rome, Spain, and Greece and China, 479 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 6: and each enjoyed about one hundred and fifty years at 480 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 6: its zenith, that's just about our time in the New World, 481 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 6: and then each decayed away. Not one of them was 482 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 6: ever destroyed by anybody else's marching legions. Each wrought it 483 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 6: away morally, socially, culturally, economically simultaneously. 484 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 3: You know, one of the most cruel paradoxes of history 485 00:29:59,400 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: is this. 486 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 6: Because each was a good government, it bore bountiful fruit, 487 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 6: and when it bore bountiful fruit, the people got fat. 488 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 6: And when they got fat, they got lazy. When they 489 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 6: got lazy, they began to want to absolve themselves of 490 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 6: personal responsibility and turn over the government to do for 491 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 6: them things which traditionally they had been doing for themselves. 492 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 6: At first, there appears to be nothing wrong asking government 493 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 6: to perform some extra service for you. But if you 494 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 6: ask government for extra services, government, in order to perform 495 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 6: its increasing function, has. 496 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 3: To get bigger. 497 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 6: Right, And as government gets bigger, in order to support 498 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 6: its increasing size, it has to what tax the individual 499 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 6: more so the individual gets littler, and to collect the 500 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 6: increased taxes requires more tax collectors. 501 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 3: So the government gets bigger. 502 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 6: In order to pay the additional tax collectors, it has 503 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 6: to tax the individual more. So the government gets bigger, 504 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 6: and the individual gets littler. And the government gets bigger, 505 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 6: the individual gets littler. Until the government is all powerful 506 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 6: the vidual that is hardly anything at all. 507 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 3: The government is all powerful, the people are cattle. 508 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 6: Some believe that the need is for a vigorous strong 509 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 6: man to arise on the scene to regulate and regiment 510 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 6: the affairs of men. Yet history tells us there have 511 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 6: been several such. Once upon a time there was a 512 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 6: nation great and powerful and good. 513 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 3: She was suffering from. 514 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 6: The aftermath of war, from a depression, And then came 515 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 6: upon the scene of leader and idealist, self confident, intolerant 516 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 6: of criticism. Wisely, he limited his early activities to combating 517 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 6: the financial depression. Nobody could argue with that. But in 518 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 6: a while he began to regulate business and establish new 519 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 6: rules to govern commerce and finance, some of them in 520 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 6: diametrical disagreement with the God made laws of supply and demand. 521 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 6: But anybody who disagreed with those new rules was promptly fired. 522 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 3: The new leader saw. 523 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 6: That under the old system of free enterprise, landlords prospered, 524 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 6: so he levied new taxes to take away their profits 525 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 6: and destroy what he called the monopoly of capital. To 526 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 6: police laborers, he controlled prices. To win the favor of 527 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 6: the farmers, he gave him loans and subsidies. 528 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 3: The national death mounted alarmingly. 529 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 6: Whenever anybody tried to tell him the government's even as 530 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 6: people can go broke when they spend beyond their incomes, 531 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:26,239 Speaker 6: he said, they just didn't understand deficit finance. What do 532 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 6: you say, did he build on rock or on sand? 533 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 6: I say on sand. For you see, this was the 534 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 6: story of Emperor t Su tung Po, who led China 535 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 6: to its doom more than a thousand years ago. 536 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: I am satisfied with all my heart 537 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 6: That if Uncle Sam ever does get whipped here too, 538 00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 6: it will have been an inside child.