WEBVTT - Episode 483 w/ Erick Sermon 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.960 He is Drinks Chests, motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queens rapper. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:18.800 He ain't agreed as your boy in O r E. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.759 He's a Miami hip hop pyoneer put up as. 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:22.640 DJ E f N. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.240 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:29.760 players you me and the most professional unprofessional podcast and 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:31.880 your number one source for drunk. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:34.280 Drinks chants mother fu posy ds new yu C. 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.160 That's it's time for drink Champs. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.199 Drink up, motherfuck mother fuck. 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.000 Eric Sherman, you said, hell bro, come on, start to 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:47.760 fucking in y'all. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.360 No, you can do yo. Check this out, y'all. 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.320 We at the Museum of Graffiti, the Art of Hip Hop, Yes, 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:56.240 Art Basil twenty twenty five. Yeah. 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.880 And this is motherfucking Drink Champs in the building. Yeahs. 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:06.240 And today we have a very very special gun a legend. 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:10.520 I can't I come. The motherfucking tycoon makes some noise 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:19.600 for Eric summon. I'm gonna be honest with you. Don't lie. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:21.839 I watched the documentary this morning. 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.200 This documentary you're speaking of these people. Some people might 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.040 not call it is right where he goes right into this. 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.280 No, I mean be honest. I've literally watched it twenty 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:31.800 minutes ago. 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:33.360 Yeah, that's why he was late. 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:38.680 Yeah, I had to do research, but I couldn't believe 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:43.319 because I know you. You got green eyes, but you're 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:47.480 a tough motherfucker. You're a tough dude. You are not 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.600 no sucker. A lot of people don't know that. And 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.160 for you to say that, puff daddy punchs you in 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:54.520 the face and y'all walked around. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:58.560 He swung on me, he swung on all right, let's 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:00.480 make that clear of this. That's clear it all right? 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.040 So what could I was clear? Oh no, no, okay. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.320 It sounds like it's oh no, no, no, no, okay. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:07.960 So he didn't punch you. No, all right, So let's 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.320 let's break that down. Because this is the hottest thing 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:14.240 on the market. Everyone is watching it, number one on Netflix. 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.480 So what happened? Now? Papa is actually my friend, So 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:20.400 he was my friend. It didn't look like that in 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:21.040 the documentary. 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.560 I'm just yeah, but I ain't say nothing bad. All 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.960 I talked about was the story that you spoke your truth. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.680 Let that happen. It wasn't that I was bashing him. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:31.160 This the fact that it happened because of the situation, 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:35.160 just saying what was told already by Jean. 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.240 It was outen deal period. 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:40.040 But he already put that out a couple of years ago. 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.519 So when they asked me the question, I just confirmed 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.520 it by saying what happened that day. 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.840 But the gene already said this story. 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:50.679 Yeah, he said that, you know two years ago that 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.480 you know, Homie got mad when he found out that 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:56.560 I was talking to home talking to. 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.880 Her visa right, and and then you know something went on. 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:04.280 But again that what happened with me and him was 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:05.880 just a person who was mad. 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.200 He was my friend. He was mad. 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.359 That's why I said get in the car and let's 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.080 go around the corner, because I knew that in front 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.519 of somebody you probably would act a certain way. 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:19.000 So around the corner things changed. And I want to 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:19.520 I want to. 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.720 I want to make clear too about the Biggie Smalls tape. 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.600 Of course, Biggie wasn't out yet, so it was new. 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.960 So the ignorant people who're saying it don't add up. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.840 Of course it adds up if it's brand new. It 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.560 was played to me in the beginning by him before 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.120 we heard the album come out. 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:41.480 It was ready to die that he showed you like 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:42.320 before it came out. 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:43.360 Do you remember what. 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:50.320 Songs No, give me the loot and I think machine. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:56.800 Gun funk, machine gun funk Baby. I died for the funk. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.960 I died for the bunk. 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:00.880 You have the best story in the in the fucking 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:02.160 hip hop man. 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:03.360 Can I just give you that. 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.560 I don't have this stories. My shit is all truthful. 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.040 I try to make as much truth as possible. Again, 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:10.640 you see when I did the last drink Champ, I 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:11.360 was about to bring it. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.040 I was waiting for somebody to say yo. 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.560 He capped on that there's no need for me to 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.840 cat and plus, nobody's gonna say ship to my face. 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.560 You got people that talk behind the computer and you. 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.839 Got green eyes. No one, No one beats some beautiful. 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:25.720 But why did they say you can? 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.880 Because of the stuff talking about the publishing. 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.159 Just everything. Every time, everybody lies. 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.280 So I wait for that to happen for me, for 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.719 them to come back and say, yo, oh No, what 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:37.760 he said was not that you know what I'm saying, 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.159 but I'm it's just truthful with me. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.880 No, But I'm gonna be honest with you as a producer. 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:49.640 Are you done with the other ship. Yeah, okay, around, 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:50.760 I just wanted to get that out. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.359 Okay, great, But because of course you you the hottest 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:54.159 nigga right now. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.880 Don't say I'm not I'm in two episodes. For two minutes, 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.320 he said, you got a reoccurring role in you look 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.479 like you were in the whole documentary. Yeah, but I'm not. 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.640 I'm not in three or four. I know that's why 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:09.160 I got a player. 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.719 But when you did that episode, I have never got 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:19.479 so much love from producers. Producers will hit me and 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.800 be like, yo, what is Eric Sherman talking about? Like 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.040 why did Eric Sherman say that? And the thing about 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:28.560 it is a lot of people didn't understand or they 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.720 didn't relate what you were saying. So I was like, 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.679 on what part? On on the part that you're saying, 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.240 like yo, I produced for Yeah, it was. 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:41.040 The publishing the residuals like that, Like, so, I. 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.200 Gotta are you going back to the first one? Yes, okay, 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:43.920 go ahead, I gotta. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:50.760 I got a rhyme right now where I say I say, 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:59.200 I say, I say, uh, still I get residuals off catalog? 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:06.520 And then I say, open back skeleton, still getting money 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:10.039 off my catalog? And people don't understand what I'm saying. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.800 Right, And you know how fast a million dollar goes 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:15.720 toys economy. 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:17.760 It goes quick. I used to do that. I used 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.359 to have four credit cards. This is not the flex. 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.560 I used to have four credit cards and on four 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.760 credit cards for thirty thousand dollars apiece. So I used 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.000 to just do that just on a regular basis, for 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.520 like four or five years straight. You know what I'm saying, 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.159 Like not, I didn't say one. I said four credit 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:38.479 cards of just swiping. I swiped my Lexus coops on 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.160 a credit card. Two short was with me one day 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.080 when I swiped the whole studio on a credit card, 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:45.839 and he tells the story. 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:47.920 You ask him. He said, I watched Eric swipe a 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:52.280 whole studio, the board, the speakers, the fucking amps, the 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.440 fucking outboard gear, the whole nine. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.080 I just swipe it on cards. That's how it was. 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:01.400 It's easy to see two hundred and fifty thousand dollars 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:05.359 go really in about a month or either forty days. 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:06.880 You can do it with no problem. 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:11.800 So let me ask you, because you you gave the 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:15.520 secret to producers. You gave the secret. You was like Yo, 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.240 all you gotta do is like produce for the right 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.240 people and the right residuals will come. 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:27.080 Well, the right people can be of course, the big stars. 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:31.000 But it's also for you to own your publishing. So 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.880 just in case, knowing you wants to sample it, you're 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:34.640 already just that. 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:38.640 Own your motherfucking published it. 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.120 Because at the end of the day, for those who 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.920 didn't watch the first Drink Champs, it kind of fucked 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:45.280 me up to you know when I said it, Ye, 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:46.720 my phone started ringing. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.679 Yeah, your phone was always ringing. 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:52.520 So because I was just trying to tell people, if 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.840 you own your own publishing, here's something that can happen 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:57.520 later on in life. 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.280 Forever, you get paid forever. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:01.520 You know, when you own, when you have publishing, no 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.560 matter what if you might get, you know, a check 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.760 for twenty dollars or a check for two hundred thousand dollars, 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:10.800 or say it a series takes your record and it 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:11.560 license it. 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.800 You know, you can make all types of money. 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.080 I just happen to be sampled by the Weekend, which 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:18.480 is the most you. 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.840 Know sampled arts in the world. You know what I'm saying. 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.880 So that's why I was able to get that bulk 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:28.240 of money because he was streaming one point nine billion streams. 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:31.120 So along with that came that type of money, type 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:32.880 of money. But only your publisher. 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.440 Though, So you would recommend not to get publishing deals then, 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:36.480 or would you? 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:38.199 Yeah, that's that's the Great Cort Act. 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:42.720 Then we did publishing deals effort because the money wasn't coming. 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:47.360 So once your career starts drying up and stuff ain't 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.679 moving the same, you have your real estate, which is publishing. 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.760 That's your real estate. So it's worth so much money. 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.560 As you can see right now, the masters listen, man, 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.880 the owner of Spotify. 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.319 Right, I don't own Spoty. I don't know who that. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.880 Is it is, right right, but I know the president 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:09.680 of Spotify and twenty twenty four he made three hundred million. 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:14.000 Dollars and he don't artists make. He don't own it. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.520 He's just the worker. He made three hundred million. 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:23.320 So imagine what everybody the owners making, or everybody else 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.079 is making. And then the artist is not making nowhere 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:29.959 near that. The labels are making these deals and everybody 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.240 else is eating but us, you know, But I'm just 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:36.319 giving you. The president made three hundred million and twenty 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:36.880 twenty four. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.760 That's the streaming math, though not on the publishing side. 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.520 I'm just saying what Spotify doing is streaming as far 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:49.600 as how what happens with you having the master too? 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.760 If you can own the master too along with along 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.640 with the publisher, what you really can be making because 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:56.520 look what they're making. 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:03.480 Artist has been taking a a job forever forever. Right 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.319 when I look at a young brother, like like, I 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:15.920 admire This is gonna sound crazy. 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.960 But I admire NB a young boy young and what's 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:19.480 his name? NB, a young young boy. 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:23.040 I admire him because I felt like he brung the 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:27.440 labels to him right bite their versa, Like when we 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.880 was trying to get signed, we went to the label. 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.560 Of course, I feel like NBA young boys. Uh, I 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:38.400 praise him. I admire him, and I can't actually honored 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.600 this guy because I feel like he was the first 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:45.040 one that made the labels come to us. Do you 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:49.079 think our young brothers should continue that that that that 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:49.880 that success. 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:56.600 Everybody that's listening right now, listen. The people that's talking 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.440 in the back get the fun Jesus man, come on, 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.480 they get get the fuck out the building because they 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:04.839 But for those that want to listen, and want to 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.480 learn something real quick. Back then, when me and Norway 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.960 came out the record, labels is all we had because 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.720 they was the bank to be able to promote and 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:18.040 push the record. We needed them, right, We don't need 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.600 them anymore. We just know that at the end of 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:26.320 the day, if Spotify is only paying us zero zero 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.400 zero four less than one cent, and they just passed 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.480 some fucking they passed some type of law just now 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.520 that gave us a penny, right, So at a penny 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:40.880 if we sell, if we stream one hundred thousand pieces, right, 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:46.040 it's fourteen thousand dollars, right, No, No, a million is 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:46.880 fourteen thousand. 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:48.240 A million is right. 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:53.840 If you stream two hundred thousand streams, right, you get 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:54.920 two hundred dollars. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:55.559 Right. 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.880 Okay, Now listen to what I'm saying y'all again. If 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.920 you stream a million, you get fourteen grand. If it's 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:07.360 a penny. If you stream two hundred thousand, you get 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.600 paid two hundred dollars. 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.040 Right, So what would you rather do? 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:16.280 So if I ask you for one dollar to buy 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:21.679 my record, and eight thousand people by give me one dollar, 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:23.080 it's eight grand. 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.480 So what would you rather do? Because because you're only 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:27.120 making two. 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:31.520 One hundred dollars, and but you gotta stream one hundred 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:36.560 thousand doesn't matter, right, And to get a million streams, 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:41.640 you get fourteen thousand dollars. So if I go direct 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.840 to consumer and tell them to pay me five dollars 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:51.680 five times four, it's twenty right. So now I'm making 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:59.200 twenty thousand dollars right, going by myself, I'm nowhere near that. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.960 When I'm when I'm streaming, I'm streaming for what to 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:08.320 get what? So I'm I'm just saying for me. If 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.760 it was me, I would do this, I would go 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:15.920 direct to consumer and whatever fans you have on your 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:19.960 social media, fuck with them so because cause they would, 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:20.319 because they. 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:23.280 Would pay you. Because listen, no numbers don't lie. 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:27.680 Yes, if I get if I only got eight thousand fans, 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.040 fuck five hundred thousand, two hundred thousand, one hundred thousand fans. 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.920 If I got eight thousand people paying me one hundred dollars, 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.320 it's eight hundred thousand dollars. 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.520 Are y'all understanding where I'm coming from. If I got eight. 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:49.439 Thousand, all I need is eight thousand people to give 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:50.920 me two hundred dollars. 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.480 It's one point six million dollars. 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.400 I don't understand how you how you not trying to 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.199 do this right? And you and you trying to get popular? 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.880 Fuck popular, trying to like I want the world to 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:04.640 hit my music. 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.800 Fuck all that. You're not hear making music for fun. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.200 You're here trying to eat. So let me ask you, 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:12.280 but hold up, but really quick. 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:16.480 It seems like there's an information war that's convincing artists 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:17.960 to do otherwise. 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:19.720 Like this is the way to go. You gotta go 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:20.160 with these. 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.080 Platforms the same way that we all bought into social media. 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:28.200 Each person is a product, and we're all being juiced 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.520 by these social media corporations and not to our benefit 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:32.240 at the end of the day. 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:33.800 Is what Noah said earlier. 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.840 I can give you the advance, but advance only comes 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:37.320 one time. 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:38.920 That's my problem. 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.800 Once you're done with that advance, money is over. They 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.560 own your likeness. You can't make a T shirt, you 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.080 can't do shit. All of it belongs to them. 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.920 I mean, I've been telling him Indie versus Major all 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:51.440 day long. 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.400 Oh no, before, before, before, it probably would have been 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.520 fifty to fifty. Right now, it's only the way that 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.640 you should go, especially the ones who. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:01.080 Have a name. 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.520 If you have a name, there should be no question 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.120 that they should be coming to you, buying your merch 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:07.120 and buying. 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:08.840 Whatever you're selling them. Then people will take. 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:09.120 Care of you. 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:15.200 Me and EFN, I'm talking about you like you're not here, sorry, okay, 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:19.400 But me and EFN we offer people deals right now 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:24.240 right for Drink Champs Network. We don't want one, not 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:28.560 one artist to sign to us and to have a complaint, 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.680 right Me and him both came together and we was like, 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.760 we're going to give every artist their own platform, okay, 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:40.080 and we're gonna make sure every artist owns their shit. 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:41.880 So if you don't want to. 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.600 Do that, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. You're not 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:46.360 for us. 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.520 And with term limits, term limits, we don't. We want 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.840 to be the catalyst for you to sign giving. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:55.200 People one year deals and we're saying to you so 0:15:55.400 --> 0:16:00.240 when that deal is up, you can say I don't 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.160 want to be here no more, or I want to 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.080 be here, and then we can continue to make you. 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:11.240 We it's the first podcast platform that is going to 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:15.160 be the biggest part class platform because. 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:21.440 We're making everybody bosses. Right. Is that cool? That's very cool. 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.600 That's very cool. Yeah. 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:31.800 Yeah, so even Bleak from Bleak, we got Bleak Angela Simmons. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.040 I got the homie right there. I don't I don't 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:34.520 know if he. 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:39.800 Motherfucking got his own thing going, but d One. 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.040 Like, yeah, yeah, d one, Yes, I definitely come fuck 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:43.400 with us. 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.400 Yes, And I want to show every We want to 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:47.880 show everybody how. 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:51.360 To be a boss, right like. And I don't think 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:55.680 hip hop has ever had that, No, don't. 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:59.400 Not not people who try to let everybody else eat. Yeah, 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.960 what's over is one Listen, man, we want to be 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:04.360 the boss, and we want to be the. 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.879 Only ones business. We want to be the only ones. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:08.600 I can't have you. 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.960 I forgot the loads of power so that I must 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.600 not feed them because I must have them always looking 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:17.679 for me to get money from or always have to 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:18.320 depend on me. 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.520 That's the way the ship works. And people they think 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:23.160 like that, not knowing that. 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:28.400 Listen man, When epm D came out, right, everybody that 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:30.480 came after us was so. 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.520 More records than me. But see how you look at 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.760 it like that, But it made me. 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:41.760 It was longevity and it turned out to be something 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:48.000 great because that just made me a more profitable person. 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.960 When I got all these groups, I don't care they. 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.600 Sell them more records to me. They under me who 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:59.040 were talking about Redman. They was all and then Keith 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.560 Murray came. They all so more records than me, as 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:03.560 far as when they came out as soloist, as far 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.600 as for EPMD. But it made EPMD bigger because. 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.960 Then when Coursover came out, it was our biggest record 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:10.320 because God's Effects. 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.960 Was platinum, so they had another whole audience. So but 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.640 I don't get mad. I'm bringing niggas in because you 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.400 can't keep showing up to the party by yourself. 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.440 And I'm assuming they had better deals than the deal 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:23.240 you originally got. 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:26.560 I got TIGN for fifteen hundred dollars me and pass 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:27.439 got five thousand. 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.879 No, you made me feel gooven fifty nigga Wait seven 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:32.600 hundred and fifty dollars a piece? 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.920 Wait yeah, wait, so y'all split the fifteen fifteen hundred. Yes. 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.240 I went to the grocery store. I went to. Yes, 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.600 I did. We went. I went to that. I got 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:42.960 some grocery pops. Come a long way. 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:44.520 I want to got some groceries for my moms. And 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:46.440 I went to marshals and got me an outfit. 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.679 And the legend was born. Apra rex I got an 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:52.879 ao rex cool. That's five grand, though I thought I 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.359 was we half five grand. Don't forget you coming in. 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.840 You coming in in late nine ninety eight, ninety seven, 0:18:58.920 --> 0:18:59.919 ninety seven s. 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:04.240 And five thousand is disrespectful. In nineties ninety six that disrespectful. 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:06.600 Fifteen hundred was no. 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:08.680 Seven fifty now, but NOI came in Indy. 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.440 You came in super in. Fifteen hundred is nineteen eighty eight. 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:15.600 Nigga nineteen eighty eight, ninety five, five thousand is disrespectful. 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:17.680 God damn it. He's right. 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:19.480 Well, you guys kind of came in Indy too, because 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:19.760 what was it? 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:23.240 Payday? No seeming back records, fresh records, okay, fresh one. 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.680 Because we had the three The three wordst contracts was EPMD, 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:28.120 bismal Key and Kane. 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:30.760 I did not never hear that. Yeah, but we had 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:31.439 the three lowest. 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:36.200 So I have to ask what was Kane and Bismark? 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:36.560 I don't know. 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:40.359 I think it was around that same Platney sign for 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:42.840 fifteen hundred. Listen, nigga, we want to be on the radio. 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:44.840 It don't matter how much money we was getting. We 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.080 wanted to be famous. I did same shit, We don't 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:47.639 matter about that. 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:48.400 And how old were you. 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.879 Fifteen, eighteen, eighteen eighty yeah, y'all was kids, man, I 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:55.359 was seventeen past was eighteen. 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:57.560 So that's why I was able to get out of 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.320 that deal when Russell came and brought us for one 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.159 point six million dollars because I was under age when. 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.280 I throw that out there at one point six? Yeah, 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:08.199 did y'all not hear that? That one point six? Yeah? Ye, 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:11.159 throw that out there. God, they ain't coming. I mean, 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:15.680 I ain't get all of it, but that's something right right, But. 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:23.280 You got to see depth jam, yes, transition right yeah, 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:24.600