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Speaker 1: He is Drinks Chests, motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queens rapper.

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Speaker 1: He ain't agreed as your boy in O r E.

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Speaker 2: He's a Miami hip hop pyoneer put up as.

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Speaker 1: DJ E f N.

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Speaker 3: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest

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Speaker 3: players you me and the most professional unprofessional podcast and

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Speaker 3: your number one source for drunk.

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Speaker 1: Drinks chants mother fu posy ds new yu C.

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Speaker 2: That's it's time for drink Champs.

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Speaker 1: Drink up, motherfuck mother fuck.

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Speaker 3: Eric Sherman, you said, hell bro, come on, start to

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Speaker 3: fucking in y'all.

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Speaker 1: No, you can do yo. Check this out, y'all.

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Speaker 2: We at the Museum of Graffiti, the Art of Hip Hop, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Art Basil twenty twenty five. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And this is motherfucking Drink Champs in the building. Yeahs.

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Speaker 2: And today we have a very very special gun a legend.

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Speaker 1: I can't I come. The motherfucking tycoon makes some noise

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Speaker 1: for Eric summon. I'm gonna be honest with you. Don't lie.

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Speaker 1: I watched the documentary this morning.

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Speaker 2: This documentary you're speaking of these people. Some people might

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Speaker 2: not call it is right where he goes right into this.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean be honest. I've literally watched it twenty

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Speaker 3: minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why he was late.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to do research, but I couldn't believe

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Speaker 3: because I know you. You got green eyes, but you're

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Speaker 3: a tough motherfucker. You're a tough dude. You are not

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Speaker 3: no sucker. A lot of people don't know that. And

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Speaker 3: for you to say that, puff daddy punchs you in

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Speaker 3: the face and y'all walked around.

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Speaker 1: He swung on me, he swung on all right, let's

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Speaker 1: make that clear of this. That's clear it all right?

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Speaker 1: So what could I was clear? Oh no, no, okay.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like it's oh no, no, no, no, okay.

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Speaker 3: So he didn't punch you. No, all right, So let's

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Speaker 3: let's break that down. Because this is the hottest thing

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Speaker 3: on the market. Everyone is watching it, number one on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: So what happened? Now? Papa is actually my friend, So

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Speaker 1: he was my friend. It didn't look like that in

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Speaker 1: the documentary.

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Speaker 4: I'm just yeah, but I ain't say nothing bad. All

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Speaker 4: I talked about was the story that you spoke your truth.

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Speaker 2: Let that happen. It wasn't that I was bashing him.

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Speaker 4: This the fact that it happened because of the situation,

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Speaker 4: just saying what was told already by Jean.

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Speaker 1: It was outen deal period.

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Speaker 4: But he already put that out a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 4: So when they asked me the question, I just confirmed

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Speaker 4: it by saying what happened that day.

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Speaker 1: But the gene already said this story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he said that, you know two years ago that

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Speaker 4: you know, Homie got mad when he found out that

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Speaker 4: I was talking to home talking to.

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Speaker 1: Her visa right, and and then you know something went on.

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Speaker 2: But again that what happened with me and him was

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Speaker 1: He was my friend. He was mad.

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Speaker 4: That's why I said get in the car and let's

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Speaker 2: So around the corner things changed. And I want to

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Speaker 4: I want to make clear too about the Biggie Smalls tape.

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Speaker 4: Of course, Biggie wasn't out yet, so it was new.

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Speaker 4: So the ignorant people who're saying it don't add up.

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Speaker 4: Of course it adds up if it's brand new. It

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Speaker 4: was played to me in the beginning by him before

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Speaker 2: It was ready to die that he showed you like

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Speaker 1: Do you remember what.

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Speaker 2: Songs No, give me the loot and I think machine.

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Speaker 1: Gun funk, machine gun funk Baby. I died for the funk.

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Speaker 1: I died for the bunk.

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Speaker 3: You have the best story in the in the fucking

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Speaker 1: Can I just give you that.

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Speaker 4: I don't have this stories. My shit is all truthful.

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Speaker 4: I try to make as much truth as possible. Again,

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Speaker 4: you see when I did the last drink Champ, I

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Speaker 1: I was waiting for somebody to say yo.

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Speaker 4: He capped on that there's no need for me to

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Speaker 1: You got people that talk behind the computer and you.

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Speaker 3: Got green eyes. No one, No one beats some beautiful.

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Speaker 1: But why did they say you can?

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Speaker 2: Because of the stuff talking about the publishing.

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Speaker 1: Just everything. Every time, everybody lies.

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Speaker 2: So I wait for that to happen for me, for

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Speaker 2: them to come back and say, yo, oh No, what

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Speaker 2: he said was not that you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: but I'm it's just truthful with me.

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Speaker 3: No, But I'm gonna be honest with you as a producer.

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Speaker 1: Are you done with the other ship. Yeah, okay, around,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to get that out.

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Speaker 3: Okay, great, But because of course you you the hottest

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Speaker 3: nigga right now.

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Speaker 1: Don't say I'm not I'm in two episodes. For two minutes,

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Speaker 1: he said, you got a reoccurring role in you look

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Speaker 1: like you were in the whole documentary. Yeah, but I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not in three or four. I know that's why

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Speaker 3: But when you did that episode, I have never got

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Speaker 3: so much love from producers. Producers will hit me and

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Speaker 3: be like, yo, what is Eric Sherman talking about? Like

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Speaker 3: why did Eric Sherman say that? And the thing about

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Speaker 3: didn't relate what you were saying. So I was like,

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Speaker 3: on what part? On on the part that you're saying,

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Speaker 3: like yo, I produced for Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: The publishing the residuals like that, Like, so, I.

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Speaker 1: Gotta are you going back to the first one? Yes, okay,

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Speaker 3: I got a rhyme right now where I say I say,

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Speaker 3: And then I say, open back skeleton, still getting money

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Speaker 2: Right, And you know how fast a million dollar goes

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Speaker 1: It goes quick. I used to do that. I used

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Speaker 4: I used to have four credit cards and on four

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Speaker 4: Like not, I didn't say one. I said four credit

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Speaker 4: and he tells the story.

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Speaker 1: You ask him. He said, I watched Eric swipe a

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Speaker 1: whole studio, the board, the speakers, the fucking amps, the

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Speaker 4: I just swipe it on cards. That's how it was.

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Speaker 4: It's easy to see two hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you, because you you gave the

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Speaker 4: Well, the right people can be of course, the big stars.

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Speaker 4: But it's also for you to own your publishing. So

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Speaker 4: just in case, knowing you wants to sample it, you're

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Speaker 4: already just that.

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Speaker 1: Own your motherfucking published it.

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Speaker 4: Because at the end of the day, for those who

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Speaker 4: me up to you know when I said it, Ye,

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Speaker 4: my phone started ringing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your phone was always ringing.

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Speaker 4: So because I was just trying to tell people, if

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Speaker 4: later on in life.

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Speaker 1: Forever, you get paid forever.

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Speaker 4: You know, when you own, when you have publishing, no

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Speaker 4: matter what if you might get, you know, a check

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Speaker 4: or say it a series takes your record and it

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Speaker 4: license it.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can make all types of money.

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Speaker 4: I just happen to be sampled by the Weekend, which

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Speaker 1: Know sampled arts in the world. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So that's why I was able to get that bulk

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Speaker 4: So along with that came that type of money, type

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Speaker 2: Though, So you would recommend not to get publishing deals then,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the Great Cort Act.

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Speaker 4: Then we did publishing deals effort because the money wasn't coming.

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Speaker 4: So once your career starts drying up and stuff ain't

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Speaker 4: moving the same, you have your real estate, which is publishing.

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Speaker 4: That's your real estate. So it's worth so much money.

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Speaker 4: As you can see right now, the masters listen, man,

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Speaker 4: the owner of Spotify.

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Speaker 1: Right, I don't own Spoty. I don't know who that.

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Speaker 2: Is it is, right right, but I know the president

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Speaker 1: Dollars and he don't artists make. He don't own it.

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Speaker 1: He's just the worker. He made three hundred million.

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Speaker 4: So imagine what everybody the owners making, or everybody else

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Speaker 4: near that. The labels are making these deals and everybody

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Speaker 4: else is eating but us, you know, But I'm just

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Speaker 4: giving you. The president made three hundred million and twenty

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Speaker 2: That's the streaming math, though not on the publishing side.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying what Spotify doing is streaming as far

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Speaker 4: as how what happens with you having the master too?

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Speaker 4: If you can own the master too along with along

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Speaker 3: Artist has been taking a a job forever forever. Right

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Speaker 1: But I admire NB a young boy young and what's

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Speaker 3: I admire him because I felt like he brung the

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Speaker 4: Everybody that's listening right now, listen. The people that's talking

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Speaker 4: But for those that want to listen, and want to

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Speaker 4: I don't understand how you how you not trying to

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Speaker 1: Fuck all that. You're not hear making music for fun.

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Speaker 2: It seems like there's an information war that's convincing artists

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Speaker 2: Platforms the same way that we all bought into social media.

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Speaker 1: Is what Noah said earlier.

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Speaker 4: Once you're done with that advance, money is over. They

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Speaker 2: Whatever you're selling them. Then people will take.

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Speaker 3: Me and EFN, I'm talking about you like you're not here, sorry, okay,

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Speaker 1: Do that, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. You're not

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Speaker 2: And with term limits, term limits, we don't. We want

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Speaker 3: People one year deals and we're saying to you so

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Speaker 3: We it's the first podcast platform that is going to

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Speaker 1: We're making everybody bosses. Right. Is that cool? That's very cool.

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Speaker 1: That's very cool. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so even Bleak from Bleak, we got Bleak Angela Simmons.

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Speaker 1: I got the homie right there. I don't I don't

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Speaker 3: Motherfucking got his own thing going, but d One.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And I want to show every We want to

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Speaker 1: To be a boss, right like. And I don't think

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Speaker 4: Not not people who try to let everybody else eat. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Only ones business. We want to be the only ones.

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Speaker 1: I can't have you.

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Speaker 4: I forgot the loads of power so that I must

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Speaker 1: That's the way the ship works. And people they think

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Speaker 4: Listen man, When epm D came out, right, everybody that

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Speaker 1: More records than me. But see how you look at

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Speaker 4: It was longevity and it turned out to be something

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Speaker 4: When I got all these groups, I don't care they.

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Speaker 1: Sell them more records to me. They under me who

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Speaker 1: were talking about Redman. They was all and then Keith

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Speaker 1: far as when they came out as soloist, as far

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Speaker 4: Then when Coursover came out, it was our biggest record

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Speaker 2: And I'm assuming they had better deals than the deal

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Speaker 1: I got TIGN for fifteen hundred dollars me and pass

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Speaker 2: No, you made me feel gooven fifty nigga Wait seven

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Speaker 4: I want to got some groceries for my moms. And

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Speaker 1: And the legend was born. Apra rex I got an

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Speaker 1: ao rex cool. That's five grand, though I thought I

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Speaker 1: was we half five grand. Don't forget you coming in.

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Speaker 1: You coming in in late nine ninety eight, ninety seven,

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Speaker 4: And five thousand is disrespectful. In nineties ninety six that disrespectful.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen hundred was no.

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Speaker 2: Seven fifty now, but NOI came in Indy.

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Speaker 1: You came in super in. Fifteen hundred is nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 1: Nigga nineteen eighty eight, ninety five, five thousand is disrespectful.

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Speaker 1: God damn it. He's right.

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Speaker 2: Well, you guys kind of came in Indy too, because

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Speaker 2: what was it?

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Speaker 1: Payday? No seeming back records, fresh records, okay, fresh one.

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Speaker 4: Because we had the three The three wordst contracts was EPMD,

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Speaker 1: I did not never hear that. Yeah, but we had

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Speaker 3: So I have to ask what was Kane and Bismark?

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Speaker 4: I think it was around that same Platney sign for

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Speaker 4: It don't matter how much money we was getting. We

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Speaker 1: And how old were you.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen, eighteen, eighteen eighty yeah, y'all was kids, man, I

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Speaker 4: So that's why I was able to get out of

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Speaker 4: point six million dollars because I was under age when.

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Speaker 1: I throw that out there at one point six? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: did y'all not hear that? That one point six? Yeah? Ye,

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Speaker 1: throw that out there. God, they ain't coming. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I ain't get all of it, but that's something right right, But.

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Speaker 3: You got to see depth jam, yes, transition right yeah,

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Speaker 3: before depth jam.

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Speaker 2: Rush was before the actual well we was all signed

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Speaker 2: to rush right rush.

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Speaker 1: Every major artists manage Rush management before the label right yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well what what death sham was there?

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Speaker 4: Because Russell had depth Sham So the BC Boys was

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Speaker 4: on and LLLL was on there day, but they had

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Speaker 1: Was signed Profile Records. Yeah, well, did you say Orange

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Speaker 1: Tommy Boy. I saw You Walk in the Rain two.

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Speaker 1: I think it was on I know it's on Depth Cham.

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Speaker 1: Oh it was on Jam.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we don't have to google that. It was Russell's boy.

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Speaker 4: I might be but I was Russell's best friend. Maybe

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Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure.

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Speaker 1: You might. You might be right. He might be right. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was on Tommy Boy. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You've been getting a lot of money for a long time.

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Speaker 1: You might be right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I know the Pact Boys and Heloja started Depth Cham.

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Speaker 2: Those were the first two acts on Deaths And how

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Speaker 1: Was there any russis just management?

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Speaker 2: I know, but did it feel any Was there any

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Speaker 2: awkwardness and that that people that are doing the management

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Speaker 1: Nah? They had Death Jam first.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, was there anything anybody with any of the artists?

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Speaker 4: Now everybody was again, there was the biggest, there was

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Speaker 4: the hottest out so again everybody. I remember there's a

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Speaker 4: picture out with all of us on the Elizabeth Street

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Speaker 4: in Manhattan, how where the first office was. So Rock

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Speaker 4: Kim was out there was out we out there to

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Speaker 1: Somebody was signed to rush except KOs one.

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Speaker 3: So let's let's let's get into this legendary Long Island beef.

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Speaker 3: Legendary you know you guys, let's.

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Speaker 1: Let's coming down with the We're used to this were

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Speaker 1: used to, but I'm not used to it.

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00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, okay, it's okay, this is this is hip hop.

445
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they got to shut up and get the.

446
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 3: Fire every right, everybody pay attention please, But you guys

447
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 3: got into beef with the legendary Rock Him.

448
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 1: How the funk does this happen? It's just the neighborhoods

449
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: is well, Long Island again, you know, is a is

450
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: a bunch of rappists, you know right? Well coming through was.

451
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 4: The beginning was rock Him in the beginning. So here's

452
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 4: the reason why I really kept rapping because he rhymed slow,

453
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 4: so I had a list, so I had to rhym

454
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 4: slow anyway. But he was roming slow, you know, because

455
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 4: that's how the style was. But Rock Him made this

456
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 4: song called I Ain't No.

457
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 3: Joke, and I always wanted to ask you this right.

458
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 3: I do not think he did.

459
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: Y'all on that. Yeah, but he didn't. This is on that, okay.

460
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 4: Is the fact that when he said you can get

461
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 4: a smack for this, I ain't no joke. It just

462
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 4: happened that your customer came out afterwards. It's like a

463
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 4: Digama smack, you smacked me, and I smack you back.

464
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: It's not you guys were talking about him right right,

465
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 2: because you.

466
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 4: Can get a smack for this. I ain't no joke.

467
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 4: It's like a Dgama smack. You smacked me and I

468
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 4: smack you back. So the neighborhoods took it like, oh shit,

469
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 4: rock him, EPM these this shoe.

470
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 2: But to be clear, you weren't no and what neighborhood

471
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 2: off from Brentwood?

472
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 3: Brittwood that's right next to wander Him who town's over

473
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 3: two towns.

474
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 4: So then Rock Kim came back with a butter said

475
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 4: Dick and I never dug it. He couldn't have followed

476
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 4: leader long enough, so I drug him in the danes

477
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 4: of zone. You could have rand. He just kept going,

478
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I'm like a I

479
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 4: told po, we can't we can't beat him. You know,

480
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 4: we no way, we can't. We can't beat him. So

481
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 4: so eventually the beef got squashed. But it started from

482
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 4: the neighbor The neighborhood started to beef. But we was

483
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 4: never trying to go out of him. It just happened

484
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 4: that Paris Rhyme had that in it and they took it.

485
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 4: How serious of that? Did it get serious or not?

486
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: Really?

487
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it got serious, there was it got it got

488
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 4: it was bad, you know, but again it got squashed eventually.

489
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 3: You know, do you do you realize Eric Sherman is

490
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 3: top five one of the best producers in hip hop?

491
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: Ever, I don't know. I mean, hey man, I mean

492
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: there you go make some noise feric sermon.

493
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: Now because I know you you my friend, like like

494
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 3: so this is it's weird because.

495
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: I always want you to know that.

496
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, there's a guy named Larry Smith

497
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 4: that came before me, right, Larry Smith did sucking Ce's

498
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 4: Adventures a Slickering, which is children's story.

499
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: He did Houdini.

500
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 4: So again, then you got Mally Maul, who if he

501
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 4: didn't sample, we wouldn't be here. So I automatically have

502
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 4: to look at those two before I even look at

503
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 4: down the line or where we all all of us

504
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 4: come afterwards. I can tell you this, I don't think it.

505
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 4: I don't think niggas is as much work as I did.

506
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 4: You know, as far as as far as producing, as

507
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 4: far as groups, wrap and R and B music, that

508
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 4: I know that nobody does as much work as I did.

509
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 4: Now being a producer, I'm not. I never claim the

510
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 4: best be the best beat maker.

511
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm a record producer.

512
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 4: That means I tell you that that beat is dope,

513
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 4: but that beat ain't for you, that versus dope, but

514
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 4: that verse don't belong here, that versus dope, but it

515
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 4: should go third, and that should go second, that chorus

516
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 4: don't match. That means that a producer, I'm making the

517
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 4: I'm making the best record possible for the artists. So

518
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 4: beat makers make beats. I'm not that Quincy Jones. I'm

519
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 4: a producer, you know. So it's a big difference.

520
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: But you do make beat I'm not a beast.

521
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 4: No, No, I am a producer. But you got to

522
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 4: say the two things you want the distinction to be

523
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 4: a beat maker just makes beats. I'm not that I

524
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 4: make A producer is everything everything okay.

525
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: And you. You don't look at yourself as a producer

526
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: as a producer.

527
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I'm gonna be honest with you.

528
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: You get you.

529
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: You gave me a record one time and Red Man

530
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 3: used this ship And this is the biggest miss This

531
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: is probably one of the biggest mistakes of my career.

532
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: What record is this? I'm what is the a rap?

533
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: I did you send me that record?

534
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: That ship was? I don't know if you made it

535
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: for me?

536
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 4: No, No, I didn't make to be it's just blaze.

537
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 4: I just wanted you to be on the record. And

538
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 4: I thought it was dope for you.

539
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I thought it was dope for you.

540
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: And I I was on tour or something. I was

541
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 3: just like, just just busy. And when I look and

542
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: then Red Man used this ship, I was so mad.

543
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm not listen.

544
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 4: I'm not mad because when I was doing fifty cent

545
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 4: and I did the heat Waves, I was happy you

546
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 4: got on the record because because the chorus needed that

547
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 4: what what we don't tell niggas out like I need

548
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 4: that that keep.

549
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: Going here going.

550
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: I was the first person on fifty cents project when

551
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: everybody did not believe in fifty cent.

552
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: I was the first Hoy Day local man.

553
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: I was the first person fifty cents first feature.

554
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: And guess what two of them? I did two of them.

555
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: So thank you for that. They said that here, Yeah,

556
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: because once once, how the rob came.

557
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 4: He got signed, so no one wanted to guy so

558
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 4: he Wade was the first single and then he got shot.

559
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 4: So so so that was.

560
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: So hold up real quick because actually we asked people

561
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: on Twitter, on xCE, on Facebook for some questions for you,

562
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: and that was actually one of the questions that they

563
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: said that did you do you feel like you.

564
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: Passed on fifty or what? What didn't work out? Like

565
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: why didn't you sign fifty? Cory Rooney lived next door

566
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: to me.

567
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 4: That's what trap masters Krey Rooney, So Coy knocked on

568
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: my Corey really knocked on my door and kind of like,

569
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 4: you know, handed me fifty.

570
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: So we did make records, Like I said, four what

571
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: a CD?

572
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: No him, No, like I brought it personally to you know,

573
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: he came with him. Yes, I don't think a lot

574
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: of people know this correlation.

575
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

576
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 4: I don't know the same with him. So fifty would

577
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: come over every day. We would make records.

578
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: The whole nine, and I think we made like five records,

579
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: That's what I said. Listen, it was in my basement,

580
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: so of course you had to be on heat wave.

581
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: This is done at my house, you know what I'm saying.

582
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: So, but at the end of the end of the day,

583
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 4: he was already signed the Trap Masses and I was Sony,

584
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 4: so I didn't have an opportunity to get that my boy.

585
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 4: But Nod was managing him, you know. So that's where

586
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: the connection came out from. But I didn't have an

587
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 4: opportunity to sign him, so I didn't pass. I just

588
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 4: did the work as a producer.

589
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: You know, when when he did, you step up and

590
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: try to say, yo.

591
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: He's already signed.

592
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: But after Track Masters, because that there was that time

593
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: frame before Eminem that you oh.

594
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: No, yeah, yeah.

595
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 4: But but he was again, he was be cooping, doing things,

596
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 4: you know whatever. He was up up in the Poconos

597
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 4: at the time, the whole one, so he was getting

598
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: this ship together to come out and destroy the world,

599
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

600
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: So I didn't have contact after that. After somebody gets shot.

601
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: They ain't fucking with nobody, So that changes things for sure.

602
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: So well, I think I mean, honestly, I just think

603
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: that not many people have heard that connection of fifty

604
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: and Eric Sermon.

605
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: So well. You got to.

606
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 4: Understand though, too. This is another thing where people don't

607
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 4: understand about me. I could have signed Ludacris. I could

608
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 4: have signed Game. I could have signed Wu Tang going down.

609
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: Let's break break that down. Ludacris, tell me how you

610
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: could have signed Ludacris.

611
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 1: I moved to Atlanta. You were the first artists from

612
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: New York to be all up in Atlanta. Was the

613
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: the first so to Atlanta.

614
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 3: Right, So, my man, Greg, you knew that was black

615
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 3: Hollywood in the LANDA So too Short came after you

616
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: because I know too Short ended up there.

617
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 4: Came after everybody came after when they saw me in

618
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 4: a source magazine and saw I was in Georgia. They

619
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 4: all came after him, scar faced the whole nine. And

620
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 4: Tupac was at the rim shop too, so he was

621
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 4: already kind of coming in and out, you know what

622
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So but but Lucris would comes with the

623
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 4: crib and play his was he Chris Lover at the time,

624
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 4: right christ Radio and poooning Daddy Daddy on and pulling

625
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 4: level of love on radio.

626
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: So again I just thought.

627
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 4: It was more of a red Man thing, even though

628
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 4: he was nice, right, but he had to fro he

629
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 4: had the whole nines, this, that, that, this, But he

630
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 4: was nice and matter of fact. When Lula Chris got signed,

631
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 4: he called my phone and said, Eric, should I signed

632
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 4: with Sylvia Rome or soiund with death Sham?

633
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: I said, sound with death sham? You know, no, cap

634
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: go and ask him.

635
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: Wait, but when you say he's more of a red

636
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: Man thing, like you like for Redman to take him

637
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: on as an artist, No, I already had somebody like

638
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: oh you you already had a Ludicris Jason type artists

639
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: right right, I got it.

640
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: I would say I'm in.

641
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 4: But he was nice as I cam in front of me,

642
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 4: nice as hell. But I just you know, again, I'm

643
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: just getting to Georgia.

644
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm new, you know what I mean. But I but

645
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: I saw that you got Players Club every night. I'm

646
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: making it rain.

647
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 4: No, I ain't ever gonna a stripped a dime, but

648
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: as far as I saw that part of him, so

649
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 4: that's why. But again, the respect level was there when

650
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 4: he got signed to ask me like, yo, should I

651
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 4: go here? Go here even though Sylvia Rohne was offering

652
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 4: him a million dollars and death Sham offered them seven fifty.

653
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: I just say go with death Sham. It's a better

654
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: look with death Jam. And this is Russ Leon. Julie

655
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: Green was a better look for him. He's an MC

656
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: and it was a great look. Look, great look.

657
00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

658
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: So wait, we gotta talk about Wu Tang. How does

659
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: this wait? Wait did you say yeah, we said Wu Tang.

660
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: You said you had a chance to sign Wu Tang.

661
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: So but no, Alexander again my best friend, but no,

662
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 4: father he deserved had their church. Drinker had a church

663
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: in Staten Island. Yeah, the church right, so he was

664
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 4: the pastor. But now I've been going to church. His

665
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 4: father had this church for twenty years. I been drinking

666
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: with Banar. How are you out of the church.

667
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: Right, So he's a he's a son of a pastor.

668
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, church.

669
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: So but now it took me to go see Ray Kwan.

670
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: His name was Sean Lai. Yes, you went to stant Island.

671
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: Nobody told you Staten Island. Nobody went to stant Island

672
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: back of the day, but I did. I got robbing

673
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: stant Island too. But but but don't tell me for

674
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: a girl. Yeah, for a girl. I watched you episode

675
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: with mit Blee.

676
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: I did. I got dropped.

677
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: It's always a girl. But I came back your green

678
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: eyes fuck you up with visins.

679
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: So listen. When he heard the woo, you don't yeah,

680
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: come on give us the who taste.

681
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: So I talked to ray Kwon and and Raykwon tell

682
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 4: the story. I was gonna sound ray Kon by himself

683
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 4: right right. But there's a picture on my eye rock

684
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 4: with all the Wu Tang members right on the I rock.

685
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 4: It's a dope picture. I don't know where his pick at,

686
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 4: but it was out at one time. But but I

687
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 4: was too young to know. You know what I'm saying, begause,

688
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 4: I'm brand new myself. This is nineteen eighty nine.

689
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: Wait, this is eighty nine when you meet Raykon?

690
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,959
Speaker 1: Right A nine?

691
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 5: Wow?

692
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 4: That super early for all who A nine yeah, A

693
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 4: nine ninety. So I see Raykon again. I go back

694
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 4: to start now and I see him walking.

695
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: I stop him. I give him my number.

696
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 4: Ray Kon told me that he put the number in

697
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 4: the dresser and didn't look.

698
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: At it for two weeks.

699
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: Wow, because he was because he't know if he wanted

700
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: to call or not.

701
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: So time go by.

702
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, I go to Jack to rapper,

703
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: I hit protect your neck out of here.

704
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But again you know whatever.

705
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: But but but but if I if I would have

706
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: known what I knew, I would have had Wu Tang clan.

707
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: Yes, man makes some noise for that. Listen any it

708
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: real quick. I know he's a dream Chance of alumni.

709
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: He's been, he's gotten his flowers. But still we got

710
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: to give him something we can he can't leave upty

711
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: handed flowers.

712
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: Yo.

713
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: Well we got something for you, Eric. Okay, that's the

714
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: new for our simon.

715
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,959
Speaker 1: Please. No one's never had those flowers. Give it to you.

716
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: Never had that case though. Yeah, this is that. That's

717
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: the truth. Okay, that's the road. Yo. With the Rolex watch,

718
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: nigga like, I'm like that's I was looking at the watch.

719
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: What watches that? That's black?

720
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: This is gradual Okay, yeah, this is five right, it's fire.

721
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: Listen. We got a quick quick time with line.

722
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: I got a couple of a quick quick time and

723
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: then he wants a designated drinker, which he already picked.

724
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: Sonny. Sonny step up to the play. Oh god, wait

725
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: wait wait, I ain't tell you about the other rappers.

726
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, get the community, but Sonny get ready gets get

727
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: into Wu Tang and then you said said ludicrous Wu

728
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: Tang and then who else?

729
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: Then there's the game, the game Game right.

730
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: You could have signed Game before doctor dre.

731
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: Yes, give us the year, so it's more context of

732
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: when you meet these people.

733
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: Well, I meet Game early too. Again.

734
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 4: My boy d Mac with had Game and Game met

735
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 4: me at the Fox Hills mall right, and I told.

736
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: Him, mall that's the Black Mare right in California, the

737
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: Black Mare, right, black One.

738
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 4: And I told him to spit sixteen for me, but

739
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: he didn't know what I what I meant to spit

740
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 4: sixteen bars?

741
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: Wait, behold the hold up? So you randomly meet in

742
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: the mall, just random? No, my boy brought him there, Oh,

743
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 2: brought him, not to meet you, Okay.

744
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: I just told you. My boy d Mack brought him

745
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: to the mall to me me.

746
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 4: So James tells this story too, and one of the

747
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 4: magazine says, I was want to sign with Eric but

748
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 4: he wasn't ready, so I signed with fifty.

749
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: And that's crazy that the triangle that it was agree

750
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: with that story.

751
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 4: You wasn't ready, Yeah, I was. I told you I didn't. No, Yeah,

752
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 4: I was doing me. You gotta understand, I was really,

753
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I had a lot of deals, with a

754
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 4: lot of.

755
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: Shit's going on. I was, you know, it was outside.

756
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: I was in the I was in these labels.

757
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 4: Now, Tony Draper bought me Rick Ross right in the beginning.

758
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 2: Remember when Tony was messing with real right, so now

759
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: our house. Now his name was Teflon, right, yep, Teflon.

760
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 4: So Teflon was on my nineteen ninety nine album as Teflon. Right,

761
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 4: it was writing a lot for Trina and then back then.

762
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: Too, right.

763
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: So so Rick Ross was on your nineteen ninety nine

764
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: out right as Teflon as Teflon.

765
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was active back yeah, holy moly, guacamole.

766
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 4: Then and then he came ato my crib and slept

767
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: on my floor and the baby right on the not

768
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: on the floor, but he was in my basement. He

769
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 4: tells the story. I was at Eric Summon's house for

770
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 4: months making records. Right, So again I could have probably

771
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 4: signed Ross even though he was signed the Draper. I

772
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 4: just didn't know how to make that move. At the time,

773
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 4: and I had my own artists.

774
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: Again.

775
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 4: I love your story, man, Yeah yeah, but do you

776
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 4: understand the people who was in front of me. Somebody

777
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 4: bought Biggie Smalls to me, asked Benaud. Bernard said, somebody

778
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 4: bought Biggie Smalls to me to the barbershop.

779
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: Next thing you're gonna say, Michael Jackson came to you.

780
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: Fine, listen, I don't got no cap with you.

781
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: Somebody brought Biggie Smalls to the barbershop and I didn't

782
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 4: listen to him.

783
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: This is before this before this is.

784
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: Before a party and bull when he was definitely Biggie

785
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: small body.

786
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 3: It was nobody and they all right, so let's describe

787
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 3: that situation.

788
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: What did they say? This is the next dude from Brooklyn.

789
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know who. No, I bring

790
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: your ass over. I don't know who was it? But

791
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: who barbershop I was at? But but I don't know who.

792
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: Mike he gonna no, yes, yes, he said, oh.

793
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 4: Guess the ball, but that's where he was at. He

794
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 4: was bought and somebody said, yo, check him out. I

795
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 4: just didn't get I wasn't there. I was getting their

796
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 4: hair cut. Go see something problem.

797
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 3: You was getting so much money that you ain't see

798
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 3: so much more money.

799
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 4: Not the money I was going to see whatever girl

800
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 4: I was going to go see.

801
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: Yo, I ain't gonna lie. You got a lot of

802
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: girl problems.

803
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: I will watch you a Memphis Big podcast because it

804
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: ain't even out yet, and.

805
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: I washed it wasn't a girl, Pam was any rapper?

806
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: You was new. It's what you did. That's your green eyes. Yes,

807
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: what you did?

808
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: You you Every girl wanted green eyes babies.

809
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 1: Is there any other rapper? Any other people eyes?

810
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 6: No?

811
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: My father got green I went the first one to

812
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: work with Acon too. Damn man, he just he just

813
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 1: he just slipped the script. What's that we asked about

814
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: Africa at all?

815
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 4: It's Atlanta. My boy, Divine had him. Nobody knew what

816
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 4: to do. So I was just doing the fath for

817
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: my boy. So I was making records with him.

818
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: So what was the first record with you and A kon? No?

819
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: Nothing came out until but no again.

820
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: But that tell ya something.

821
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to not say the word nigga no more.

822
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: Right, So I'm kind of like fucked up because I

823
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: don't want to say I really want to be a

824
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 3: better person as an individual. And I don't want to

825
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: say nigga no more, but.

826
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 4: But no that nigga listen man, but Nah brought me

827
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 4: the Foujies. I turned him down, Jesus, but Nah brought

828
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 4: me Nas. Nas came to the studio and I didn't.

829
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 4: I didn't understand it.

830
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: So you're found. I m's not getting mad at you

831
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: right now. So so I gave him. I gave him.

832
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: I hated in the stand them stop. Wait, no, I

833
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: need to I need to know. I need to know

834
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 1: Ana story. How did that happen?

835
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 4: So Banar was managing at the management company too that

836
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 4: he was at what's that big man company, what's the

837
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 4: big man be coming?

838
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: He was working for. He had DOSC Communications, had.

839
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 4: All these groups, all these big group Fuuji's Nas and

840
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 4: all these other rock groups. They was all signed to

841
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 4: where Bernard was managing that. So Nah was making illmatic

842
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 4: at the time. So he comes to Long Island. So

843
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 4: I sit with him, but I'm not playing him nothing

844
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 4: that is explosive. I'm playing them seedless beats. Don't forget.

845
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 4: I got Redman, I got dos effects, I got case solo.

846
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 4: So the type of enrhymement I'm hearing is people that

847
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 4: got technique and styling doing something different.

848
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: I'm mad at you, I'm mad at myself. He was

849
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: in a hit squad mentality, right, So when Nas was.

850
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. But I'm still mad ahead.

851
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 4: So when Nads was coming with the whatever Queensbridge was

852
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: and how how he was coming up, it wasn't registering

853
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 4: with me, so I didn't take it seriously.

854
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: So so after he left me, but not take him

855
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: to Pete Rock's house and the rest is history.

856
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 4: For that's the only fuck up that I'm mad that

857
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 4: I didn't understand.

858
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 2: Gret fucking move Bernard, Thank god for Bernard Man.

859
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: He makes a noise, That's the only one I know

860
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: that's boo boo.

861
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: Let me ask you as a as as a person, right,

862
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 3: as a person, Yeah, as a person.

863
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: Because so many times.

864
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 3: It's been the opportunity that has been presented in me

865
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: and like it's like, you know, I'm I'm a runner

866
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: right now, right, And I know, I know you don't know.

867
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: Run champs yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, run champs healthy high, yes, yes,

868
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: healthy high.

869
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 3: So I'm a I'm a runner, right, but uh, sometimes

870
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: the opportunity to that be presented to me, and I

871
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 3: just turned this shit down because I don't really need that.

872
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 3: What made you turn knaves down or what made you

873
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: not see nas?

874
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 4: I just told you I did stand see where y'all

875
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 4: come from. Almost got frobbed and the left rack mall.

876
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: Some we sent to maw. Yeah.

877
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 3: Some girl told me girl girls, you have girl problems.

878
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: Some girls said I'm gonna say, listen, you gotta turn

879
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 4: around because niggas is looking at you and they come

880
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 4: to get you.

881
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: No, lie, I'm so sorry. I wished that should have

882
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: my phone number. Back then. You wasn't around. I wasn't around.

883
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: I would have had to back anywhere, but anyway I wouldn't.

884
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

885
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: Again, you had red men with the ship that he

886
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 4: was doing you know, you know he was doing.

887
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: You know I got it going on.

888
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 4: I'm not like to flex because I mean Duran, that's

889
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 4: effects was bigger do you want?

890
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: And then you had solo work. When I speak it

891
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: so all my rhymes, I get it other shit.

892
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 4: So my mind wasn't at that type of mentality. So Queensbridge,

893
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not from the city. I'm from

894
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 4: Long Island, so I couldn't understand where he was coming from.

895
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 4: That's the only thing I could think of.

896
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, Eric Sherman, Queensbridge is the most

897
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: important projects in New York City. I got to know

898
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: where Queensbridge is. And I'm from left Rack, I'm not

899
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: from Okay. But queens Bridge is the only hood in

900
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 3: Queens that is next to Manhattan.

901
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: Right, it is adjacent to Manhattan. Right, you got to

902
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: cross over in Queensbridge.

903
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 3: Actually, I forget what hood it is in Compton that

904
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 3: has the same as that.

905
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: View, but Queensbridge.

906
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: So if you're from queen Bridge and you see Manhattan

907
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: every single day, do you understand how much that is

908
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: for you to be a black child child growing up

909
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 3: and seeing you see the money, right, it's right there,

910
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 3: and you gotta grow up still poor and still drink.

911
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 3: I et a hero today, just so you know what

912
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: a hero?

913
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: What kind turkey and cheese? All right?

914
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 3: Just to make sure that I could level myself the

915
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 3: fuck out.

916
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah, cause you got money too, I

917
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: said too.

918
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: But I would have loved to see that moment that

919
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,479
Speaker 3: you know you see nas So you didn't you didn't,

920
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: you didn't you didn't tell him no.

921
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 2: No, it's just you didn't see this an understanding.

922
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 4: Yes, listen, Dave Rock and real studios got burnt down.

923
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 4: But I wish I had those tapes because I can't

924
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 4: even play the dass play the old music that we

925
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: did so I can.

926
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: We did three records for y'all, recording, recorded, recorded.

927
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just told you. It wasn't. It

928
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: wasn't the dope beats though he's still rhymeing out of it.

929
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: You gave him the throwaways.

930
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 3: Talking about so you saying you didn't deliver on your part.

931
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't because I didn't, and you gave him

932
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: the okie dough I did.

933
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: He's so not of a real one. I think you

934
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: did deliver. I think it was I didn't.

935
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 2: I think he's honest, which is telling you real.

936
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 4: Because I had a crew, I had to save it

937
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 4: for my niggas.

938
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, and I will say this behind

939
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: your back when I'm gonna say it to your face.

940
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: I've never heard a whack Eric Shermon beat.

941
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, bro, I'm sorry.

942
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 1: There is no whack erics Hermon beat that exists. I don't.

943
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: I just wanted to, but it wasn't. It wasn't for

944
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: that time, he said, No, I knew it wasn't that

945
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: I knew what I was playing. No, I knew what

946
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: I was playing.

947
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I knew I wasn't playing your C grade beats right.

948
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: Okay.

949
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: On another note, Eric, rest in peace to Hurricane Ge.

950
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: I just wanted to know how'd you guys connect? Originally

951
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 2: I met her.

952
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 4: I met her at a spot and Llo Cuj was

953
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 4: dancing with a.

954
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: What yeah, and then LL went tout your story. I

955
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: just once once they once it was over, I said something.

956
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 3: To him that was like the hardest Puerto Rican female before.

957
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was. She was ill man and for theaxt

958
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: that huh, what makes you my toy? Is gonna be

959
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: so happy? I've always been No.

960
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 2: No, I connected with Hurricane G while she was around

961
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: as a big tape DJ and being Latino of course

962
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: man Hurricane like she was.

963
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: I know.

964
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 4: I talked to stretching Barbito and a song called Milky

965
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 4: is still one of their favorite songs that they still

966
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 4: play from.

967
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: Hurricane as the Underground from America.

968
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: I got her stuff that she did with Ola Records,

969
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 2: like I got those white labels.

970
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: All of the I love hurricane. My daughter's gonna be

971
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: so happy. Yeah, brought this up. Let it brought up man.

972
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: We love hurricane g Man, those hurricane that's my daughter,

973
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: the daughter.

974
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: They got a kid together, kids. Oh ship, I got

975
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: that part. Yeah man, Now rest in piece of hurricane.

976
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 3: G I forgot you was outside. Yeah, you've been outside

977
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: for a long time. Everything about you is about girl.

978
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I spiritted you.

979
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: I spiritted God fIF bleak because I'm from Long Island, right,

980
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: I know you from when I first went to the

981
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: Apollo on Everything I Love.

982
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 1: No, I lost my mind. I called my mom a mom.

983
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: There's so many black people out here because because don't

984
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 4: forget me from Long Island, so it's mixed Puerto.

985
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: Rican, white and black. Forgot that part.

986
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: So when I went to the city, I lost my

987
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: mind and apollow up Harlem.

988
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: That's Harlem.

989
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: Then I found out about the Bronx, and my first

990
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: love was in the Bronx.

991
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: So I was on Western Avenue.

992
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 4: Yes, Cindy worked at the label at at Fresh Records.

993
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 4: She was one of the one of the receptionists.

994
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: Now know how you got the deal right? No? No,

995
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: he didn't have no do Then he was romance in

996
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 1: the Stone.

997
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 4: Well then now all my families and pink houses, so

998
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 4: I'm near every day, so pink house, so now I'm

999
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 4: near every day. So now I get a hold of Brooklyn.

1000
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 4: And then I went to best Guy and it was Curtains.

1001
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 4: I'm like every they had to know he was sick.

1002
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 4: The only part didn't master. I didn't master the Queens.

1003
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 4: Like after that thing happened to me, I didn't go

1004
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 4: back to the Queens. But every every other borough and

1005
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 4: Staten Island where I got robbed at was me going

1006
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 4: back for seconds.

1007
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 1: I love Eric Shervan so much. Quick Time with Sliming

1008
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: ready for it?

1009
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: Come on up, you gotta desiinate a drinker, Okay, yes,

1010
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: come on, Sonny money come in.

1011
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: And you picked the hay Ship. That's very that was

1012
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 3: very strategic. You picked the Haitian.

1013
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: Anybody drinking with us out there, anybody got ready to

1014
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: do quick time with sign with us? So you know

1015
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: the rules, right, Yeah.

1016
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 4: But I want to make sure you said something that

1017
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 4: people would learn from so we can get so when

1018
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 4: we do the clips that it's exciting, Yeah, No, that

1019
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 4: we say something that is worth.

1020
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we at viral moments. Yeah, we're not good, and Eric,

1021
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: we're not done. Man, We're good. You're my brother, Man,

1022
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: I got you.

1023
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: We gonna take We're good. Listen to the rules for

1024
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: the audience and for Eric sermon. We will give you

1025
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 2: two choices, okay, if you pick one, we don't drink.

1026
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: Nobody drinks. Okay, I mean y'all could drink, though, if

1027
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 2: you say both or neither, like you don't want to

1028
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: answer the question, we all take a shot. Sonny d

1029
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: and r E myself and y'all if y'all want to

1030
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: drink with us.

1031
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, drink.

1032
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: We want stories more than anything else. This is about

1033
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: stories with anybody who mentioned drink.

1034
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: All right, not about negativity.

1035
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 2: You ready, Sonny? You got your drink? Let's go, Sonny?

1036
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 2: Are you a professional drinker?

1037
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: Was going on? Bro? Is that can say the drink?

1038
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 3: Man?

1039
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: He? Okay, no, realize, but you should? You should? You ready?

1040
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: Right now? Man? All right? Go ahead?

1041
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: Red Man or k Solo? Oh my god, why y'all

1042
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 3: do that? That's not me, that's not me.

1043
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Reggie.

1044
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: You picked red Man. I gotta pick it. You gotta

1045
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: pick Reggie. I'm gonna take it. Sht even though Solo, Oh,

1046
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 1: my god, but but it's red man.

1047
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 3: He was all right, let me ask you, because this

1048
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: is something DMX is not here to actually say that.

1049
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 3: I asked DMX what the fuck was DMX and k

1050
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 3: Solo's beef about? Do you remember now?

1051
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 4: It was happened in jail because they said that in

1052
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 4: jail that they was both spelling spell Bound spelling.

1053
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: So DMX claimed that that he started, Yes, he started

1054
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: Spellbound in jail, and Solo stole it from him show

1055
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: and DMX was adamant too.

1056
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 4: Solo was also adamant too. So if somebody comes and

1057
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 4: does it and somebody doesn't do it, it's.

1058
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: Kind of hard to believe because DMX didn't do it.

1059
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: Solo did it. So if you did do.

1060
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 4: It, you know, why didn't you do it at least

1061
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 4: one time?

1062
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 6: You know?

1063
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: But DMX was like adamant, like nah, that's me. Yeah,

1064
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, and I believe both

1065
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: of them. I kind of do. I kind of do

1066
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: like if you ain't if you locked up, And Nigga.

1067
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: Is like, you know what them no, because that's effects

1068
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 4: was the same way. One guy was doing this style

1069
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 4: not knowing that this other guy that what they told

1070
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 4: me they didn't know that both of them, guys.

1071
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: The group members, didn't know that each other would put

1072
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: a similar style.

1073
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: Oh each other.

1074
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: That's yes, to make it the diggity styles for lack

1075
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 2: of a better lunch room.

1076
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 4: They found out that each other, each of them rap,

1077
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 4: and then they got introduced to each other. Now I

1078
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 4: think the ignity style came with the both of them.

1079
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 4: But they met to somebody saying, my.

1080
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: Boy rap, that's wow, that's crazy. I heard that story

1081
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: that was meant to be that I didn't.

1082
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 2: I didn't understand that story. Okay, go ahead, go ahead,

1083
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: let's get all right, major or independent independent? Now all right,

1084
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: mob deeper MP, Oh my god, you gotta drink. Take

1085
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: a shot, Take a drink if you got one, guys, cheers.

1086
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 4: There is no way I'm going to be able to

1087
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 4: differentiate that. Not those to b Yeah, and both of

1088
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 4: them was on my new project coming out Friday.

1089
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: The Duels.

1090
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 2: Probably we're gonna get into that before when we're done

1091
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 2: here Dayla sol or Tripe call quest. Oh my god,

1092
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: hey yo.

1093
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 4: It's so crazy because I gotta go. You know what

1094
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 4: day I saw from Long Island and then fight Dogs.

1095
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: Favorite group is EPMD. You gotta drink cheer Share Salu

1096
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: drink up with us coming out on Friday on the

1097
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: Project Foul Nigga. You you know I gave you be

1098
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: so you on Volume two. You ain't want to look

1099
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: at You're killing me over here, you know.

1100
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: And the New Day Last Soul album is incredible and fantastic,

1101
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 2: one of the best albums I've heard in a long time.

1102
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: It's incredible, fantastic, the bat that movie.

1103
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 4: Even though they might look at us as as old heads,

1104
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 4: we know, listen, listen. I tell people all the time,

1105
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 4: if you can still do it, then do it. If

1106
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 4: you can't, then don't do it. But I don't give

1107
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 4: a fuck how old you are. If you can rap,

1108
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 4: still rap, and if you mad, then you gotta step

1109
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 4: your game up. That's all about that.

1110
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: There's no age on the art man, no doubt period

1111
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 2: it Since you had that big l or Biggie Biggie Smalls.

1112
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 1: Rest in peace, you said, Biggie Smalls, Biggy, I gotta

1113
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: give it to Biggie.

1114
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: Smalls, all right, Cain or jay Z no leading the witness.

1115
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: You gotta say because because you don't forget jay Z.

1116
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: Came through that way, right jay Z would say, Kane,

1117
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: that's the way I look at it.

1118
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: Is the who we jay Z is a problem. But

1119
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: I got to give it to a Kine because he

1120
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: came from there first first.

1121
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: So all right, so big Daddy came doz effects or

1122
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: the artifacts I mean, I thinks you're gonna say, even

1123
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: though Tanane won them as piece of ta no doubt

1124
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: the artifacts off the chain Rockefeller or rough riders.

1125
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: While you got a man.

1126
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 4: Okay, listen, now you're talking about the rough riders.

1127
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: With the locks, then listen is whatever in your mind

1128
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: makes you pick, but you're talking about I'm not talking

1129
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 2: about things your Christ here Christ and.

1130
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: Nee freeway Jay God damn. And then you got d

1131
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: and yeah you gotta drink.

1132
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 2: Cheers, y'all.

1133
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: Cheers, cheers salou yo. Those are yo, those are good,

1134
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: those good ones. All right, No you're drinking. No, no, no,

1135
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: I'm not nas or rock him. Rock him.

1136
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 4: He's the reason why rhyme. He's the reason why everybody rhymes.

1137
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 4: He changed the game, even though you against them. After

1138
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 4: see I ain't never dim After run DMC style came him.

1139
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: He changed everything. Everything that we hear and see now

1140
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: is from that man. And rock him is still doing

1141
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: it at a high level too.

1142
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 3: You know what, you know what, I want to say

1143
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 3: something real quick that you just said he said at

1144
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 3: the Run DMC and I went to Puerto Rico. And

1145
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 3: when I went to Puerto Rico, I seen Bad Bunny

1146
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 3: perform and it was the best concert I've ever seen

1147
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: in my life, right besides Run DMC.

1148
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: Wow.

1149
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 3: So I went to dinner and ironically, I'm here for

1150
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 3: DJ College today. I'm gonna go to Contessa to go

1151
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 3: see DJ College today. And DJ College said this is

1152
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 3: the best concert he ever saw in his life. And

1153
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 3: I corrected him immediately. I said, did you ever see

1154
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 3: Run DMC perform?

1155
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: Wow?

1156
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 3: He said no, And I was like, that's why you

1157
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: said it. But I ain't gonna lie to you. Bad Bunny,

1158
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: wherever the fuck you are, whatever the fuck you doing, Yes.

1159
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: You all.

1160
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 3: One of the motherfucking best concerts I've ever seen. Like

1161
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 3: I've never seen like this guy walked around. He he

1162
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 3: did everything as a hip hop artist, as a reggae

1163
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 3: throne artist, like he did everything that I wanted to see.

1164
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: Wow. And then I sat in his seat, by mistake,

1165
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: you said in his seat. Yeah.

1166
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 3: I was like, like so he comes in the in

1167
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 3: the casito casita.

1168
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, you know you're the fakest Puerto Rican in

1169
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: the history. Really you are.

1170
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 3: I was so I sat there and then he looked

1171
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 3: at me and he gave me the biggest five. He

1172
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 3: was like, Nori, thank you for sitting there, like basically

1173
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 3: sitting in my seat. And I got up and I

1174
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 3: gave it to him and he kept continuing performing it

1175
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 3: and then is one of the best concerts I've ever

1176
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 3: seen in my life, like next to run DMC. Okay,

1177
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 3: because if you're from Queens.

1178
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: It's everything.

1179
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 3: And you see run DMC performed right like I was

1180
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 3: at the garden when they pulled up that motherfucking when

1181
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 3: they pulled up that you was there. I was a

1182
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: child when I was there. God bless my mama.

1183
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: You see back then, No, not not at that time.

1184
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: It was run DMC first, I got you.

1185
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 3: So, but that's the second best concert I've ever seen

1186
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 3: in my life. Bad Bunny, wherever you at, I respect you.

1187
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: I want you to know that that I.

1188
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 3: I love how you represent Puerto Rican people. I love

1189
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 3: how you represent our culture. And I'm gonna always I'm

1190
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 3: gonna always support you. Bad Bundy, whatever the fuck you at.

1191
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 3: And I don't even know if you fuck like. He's

1192
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 3: always showed me love every time I seen him. He

1193
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 3: he grabbed me and took a picture with me.

1194
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I know it was kind of

1195
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, he's not really a Puerto

1196
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: Rican like that. But yeah, I mean, all right, let's

1197
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: see if they love that.

1198
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 2: Lets if there's any Puerto Ricans in the building.

1199
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico.

1200
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 3: I love that, so many Puerto Ricans here. Let me

1201
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 3: tell you something. I love that, and I'm gonna address

1202
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: that real if you can speak a.

1203
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: Whole paragraph, right hold on, hold on, hold on, I

1204
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: speak hard, I speak hard.

1205
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: You ready? You ready? You know?

1206
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 3: You know I've risked my whole career to prove that

1207
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 3: I'm Puerto Rican. I know, come on, I've risked my

1208
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 3: whole career. Do you understand? The man setting to the

1209
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 3: right of me is my closest I love e FN

1210
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 3: so much, I love Fat Joe so much. And they

1211
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,479
Speaker 3: both pulled me to the side, and they both said,

1212
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 3: do not do reggae throne. I was not fucking with

1213
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: regae first one. You were the first one to.

1214
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: Ever they both told me, don't do it, and you

1215
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: know what I did? Did it? He's a I did it.

1216
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 3: And guess what, I look like the smartest person at

1217
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 3: the table right now because because I love it. I

1218
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 3: didn't tell him chance.

1219
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: No, I love you.

1220
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 3: I love you, bro, I know sometimes I don't. We

1221
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 3: don't even speak, so you No, I love I love him,

1222
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,439
Speaker 3: and I knew what he was trying. He was trying

1223
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 3: to protect me, okay, fat Joe was trying to protect me, okay,

1224
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 3: But I was trying to go to the next I

1225
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 3: saw it he did. I saw where reggae throne is

1226
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 3: gonna be. I saw who bad buddy is.

1227
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: This motherfucker's perform for the Super Bowl? Do you think

1228
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: that happens without body? That happens without me? No?

1229
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,959
Speaker 3: Now guess what, No, And guess what, motherfucker.

1230
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm claiming it. That's my ship.

1231
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 3: I was the one that said, Yo, Reggae doone is

1232
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 3: gonna move the whole world. So then, now you got

1233
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 3: Whizzed and Yandell. Now you got Zion and Linux. Now

1234
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 3: you got Daddy Yankee. Now you got Dango God Dolom.

1235
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 3: Now you got Donald Maar. Now you got all of them.

1236
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: That doesn't exist without the yalla. Okay, see without the yalla.

1237
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: When the y'allop put it, I put my whole career.

1238
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: You know what black people told me? Or now you're

1239
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican? You know when mother damn somebody say fuck me, nigga.

1240
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: I woke him up. See, I woke him up to

1241
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: get that that flex I did. That's he thank you,

1242
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: thank you.

1243
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 3: They was telling me, yo, are you sure this is

1244
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 3: what you want to do? Efn In fact, Joe came

1245
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 3: from uh love, right, they came from love. Everybody else

1246
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 3: didn't come from love. Everybody else was like, you're gonna

1247
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 3: fuck up. You did the war report?

1248
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: How can you do?

1249
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 2: Oh?

1250
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: You meddo? It doesn't make sense? And you know what,

1251
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: I still did it.

1252
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 3: And guess what bad Bunny is performing at the fucking

1253
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 3: super Bowl.

1254
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: I was right. I was right.

1255
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: But let me tell you, like a lesson to be

1256
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 2: learned with Nori's journey with Reggaeton is that to be

1257
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 2: the first in the door. And it's not to say

1258
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 2: first in Reggadon, the first in the door to break

1259
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 2: down the English markets openness to Reggeddon, to see that

1260
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 2: first person through the door, that first person usually has

1261
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 2: to be Crucif bruggles, it doesn't get the you know,

1262
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 2: the accolades that deserve. It's now that all these artists

1263
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 2: that are that are successful and reggadon can look back

1264
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 2: and say, yes, thank you, Nori, Yes, thank you for

1265
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 2: helping us.

1266
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: Know.

1267
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, that nigga sweat. No, you're like, what Yola?

1268
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 2: The other day, I swear to God.

1269
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 3: The other day I mean Dovado Puerto Rico and I

1270
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 3: see Zion Andalynux, I see Zion. Excuse me why I

1271
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 3: put them both into like they two people and Zion

1272
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 3: sees me and we just hug each other.

1273
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: That's it.

1274
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 3: We didn't have to say nothing, right, I'm just I

1275
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 3: gave him a hug, he gave me a hug, and

1276
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 3: that was it. But I sacrificed my whole career Eric Sherman,

1277
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 3: to put my Puerto Rican people front line.

1278
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: I did that. I did that as a friend. I

1279
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: can say whatever to you please. I'm glad I spopped

1280
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: you up and got you. You got me, hype, you

1281
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: got me. So now the world can see how you

1282
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: started this.

1283
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 2: I did that.

1284
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: Love that next question and.

1285
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 2: Real quick and without getting into too much detail. Had

1286
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 2: he not broken down those barriers and struggled with it,

1287
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 2: struggled with struggle. He struggled with it, there might not

1288
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 2: be a drink chance today had he not struggled with it.

1289
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 2: Because he came to Miami, he knew I wasn't like

1290
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 2: a dun't guy. He's like, let's do hip hop shit again.

1291
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 2: And then drink chance was born amongst that world that

1292
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: we we we created, okay, all right?

1293
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 3: And yeah and after after reggad Dome, my man sitting

1294
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 3: here to me to the right, said we did milertainment,

1295
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 3: crazy role radio, satellite radio.

1296
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: Let's bring that ship back. And he did that. And

1297
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: this is why we hear right now, I got so

1298
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: all right, we almost we almost done with quick time.

1299
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead, all right, hit squad or death squad?

1300
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 2: Wait?

1301
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: What do the people say? What do you say?

1302
01:05:58,360 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 3: Man?

1303
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: You better not picked His squad was a huge inspiration

1304
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: to me because I come from the first one. So

1305
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: you gotta drink it.

1306
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, nah, this squad was a huge inspiration squad.

1307
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 4: Because it's started it, you know, the breakup and and

1308
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 4: then the death squad came.

1309
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: But all right, are we making a noise for his squad? No, no, no,

1310
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: no it make the noise, no.

1311
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: Nose all right, Keith Murray or Prodigy, come on recipees

1312
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 2: of Prodigy, guys.

1313
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't wake these questions. I got you know what

1314
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 1: you got more, got a lot of more and more work.

1315
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: But there's no way I can pick between those two.

1316
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: So we drink. Drink, y'all drinking with us, tell y'alla

1317
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: with us. That's both Long Island. If you think about it,

1318
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: we drinking there they are.

1319
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody, no, Murry, nobody, No. Probably want to say

1320
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 2: this one more time.

1321
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: I know. I think he got his own podcast. No,

1322
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would like to get on go

1323
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: on his part to keepry each Yeah. Yeah, he announced

1324
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: that he had apart when I don't. I don't know,

1325
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: but you know I saw him come on your show,

1326
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: you know, I saw I know your squash and I

1327
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: ran up on him.

1328
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 3: I tried to like take because he had he had

1329
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 3: the po sisty mask on and I was like get off,

1330
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 3: and he was like no.

1331
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, how can we tell people that

1332
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: we squashed it?

1333
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 3: If you got the sty and so Keith Mary, I

1334
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 3: just want you to know wherever you at. I want

1335
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 3: being able saying, want to support your career. I want

1336
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 3: to support what you're doing.

1337
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 2: He's a legends, a legend.

1338
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 3: I know, I know, like like it was a little

1339
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 3: bit miss understanding, but I want to be the person

1340
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 3: that takes care.

1341
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 1: Just squashed it already, and I got you. I got

1342
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: your back. I'll do your show and I want you

1343
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: to do my show. That's right. It's real ship. Thank you,

1344
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: thank you. That's real real, Okay. I gotta take some

1345
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: noise for that.

1346
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 2: I gotta be you heard nor say Keith Murray on drinks,

1347
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 2: chances're gonna.

1348
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: Make it happen. Drink chance, all right, New York or Atlanta,

1349
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: New York. All right, DJ Scratcher kick Capri rink. Yeah,

1350
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: you gotta drink.

1351
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 4: You gotta drink because again kicking pre startup as scratches

1352
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 4: my DJ too.

1353
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 1: But kick started. I don't make these questions.

1354
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 2: Good uh, second to last, capone or Noriega.

1355
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: You got your drink. Drink, Thank you for it, Thank

1356
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: you because I might pick your pone good nigga. Oh yeah, damn,

1357
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: here's my majuana hitting right now. All right, last one,

1358
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 1: go for it, buddy. Loyalty or respect? Respect, He said

1359
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: that quick yeah, I've.

1360
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: Never heard something. Then he rushed into the bathroom. Can

1361
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 2: he gets to carry to help study to the bathroom?

1362
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 4: Because loyalty can be compromised, meaning again, you can't really

1363
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 4: trust the loyalty. Somebody can say, Yo, they be loyal.

1364
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,560
Speaker 4: They can easily be compromised.

1365
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 2: But wouldn't that not be loyalty at that point? Yeah,

1366
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 2: but again they can say they're loyal. Respect, you can't.

1367
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 2: You got to earn that.

1368
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: You can't just just can't get respect like that. You know,

1369
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: you have to earn that loyal You can at like

1370
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: he's loyal, and then somebody can come to you with

1371
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 1: a proposition and say some shit to you, and you

1372
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: can easily just switch it quickly.

1373
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I want both respect automatically. A loyal nigga is

1374
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: not really loyal all the time. He can easily be compromised.

1375
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: Anderstand what I'm saying. I got what you're saying.

1376
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: I'm using bathrock. Jesus Christmas.

1377
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 2: Now we are win win, all right, Eric sermon, let's

1378
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 2: talk a about this duo's project.

1379
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: Okay, how is the project? I thought Copona Oriego was

1380
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: you talked about it here with us? What he said

1381
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: CNN is not on the project, not this one. I

1382
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: gave him Nori to beat, but no, he's busy, right,

1383
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: So I had the record made. You know that I

1384
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: want them to rock on, but it'll be volume two though.

1385
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: Sot For the people that don't know, can you explain

1386
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: what the project is?

1387
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, before before Nas was doing what he's doing, about

1388
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 4: three and a half years ago, I thought that my colleagues,

1389
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 4: I was wondering why they stopped making records.

1390
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: So I didn't like that.

1391
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 4: So I said, you know what, maybe they don't have

1392
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 4: nobody to influence them or somebody to make records for them,

1393
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 4: or probably you know, they feel.

1394
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 1: Like they don't have to do it or they can't

1395
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: do it. So I said, I'm going to look at

1396
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: all the rap groups that was out and I'm going

1397
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: to make new records on them, strictly duels, right, just

1398
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 1: due just duels two rappers. There's like twenty four of

1399
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: them in the game.

1400
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 4: If you if you look up twenty the dual partnership

1401
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 4: is about twenty four rap groups. So I started with

1402
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 4: making a couple of d ms, some phone calls on

1403
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 4: certain people and then start putting them in my head

1404
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 4: who I wanted to produce and the ones who I didn't,

1405
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 4: who I never produced before, you know. So I think

1406
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 4: the first record I won, of the first records I did,

1407
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 4: was know You by Nature, right, but Know You by

1408
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 4: Nation is not on this project. And then I did

1409
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 4: like you said, you did, you did a record with them,

1410
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 4: it's just not on this break right, And I did

1411
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 4: Lost the Lost the Underground. I did the record with

1412
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 4: them too. They didn't make this one neither, right, So

1413
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 4: time starts going by. COVID comes in after that. Then

1414
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 4: COVID came down.

1415
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: Was two years.

1416
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 4: So then when when I was signed at three hundred,

1417
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 4: like how to deal with Kevin Lyles, then they sold

1418
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 4: three hundred, so that took time off. So now it's

1419
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 4: three years now, you know. So once Warner picked it

1420
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:27,759
Speaker 4: back up again and DNA, which is another my partners

1421
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 4: who I'm with, I started going back again and saying,

1422
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 4: you know what, let me finish the project up. So

1423
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 4: Dynamic Duo comes out December fifth, Dynamic Duel right, volume one,

1424
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 4: and you're spinning on all the records too.

1425
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: I'm not ryman, just production this production. So I put

1426
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:48,919
Speaker 1: out mop joints.

1427
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 4: Up I put out a TUPAC and Bigie record first, right,

1428
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 4: that's out now, right, that's out now. And then I

1429
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 4: put out the Red Man that Metamn record out second right.

1430
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 4: Then I put out the Snoop Dogg Nate Dog record

1431
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 4: out too, just snippers of them, oh okay, okay, and

1432
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 4: now I got the the MP coming on the release

1433
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 4: of Friday with a video looks.

1434
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: Crazy, crazy, looks crazy.

1435
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 4: This album, I was definitely trying to fill the void

1436
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 4: of hip hop. So it's way before Na's mass appeal

1437
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 4: what he's doing now, you know what I'm saying. So,

1438
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 4: but on this project that's coming December fifth, Dynamic Duos.

1439
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 2: Three days, so it's out now by the time this

1440
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: comes out.

1441
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 4: Snoop Dogg, Nate Dog, Helter Skelter, Mob Deep, rhdther Meth

1442
01:13:54,800 --> 01:14:01,839
Speaker 4: Dog Pound, Cyprus Hills, ep M D, n uh Ship, Conway,

1443
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 4: the Machine, Lil Wayne, Game, am missing somebody. It's Conwayne,

1444
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 4: who the Conway, Little Wayne and Game is on the

1445
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 4: same record. That's my that's my bonus of volume two.

1446
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 4: I'll be putting other rappers together that making my own

1447
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 4: dynamic duos too.

1448
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 2: You got you got you so but again componing Noriega

1449
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 2: with Smith and Western or something like that No, no,

1450
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:27,839
Speaker 2: it's supposed to be componing Noriega.

1451
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: No no, no, like Yellow Group, meaning that taking some

1452
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: other rappers that are in the group. It would be.

1453
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 2: But he's thinking that you're putting duels with duals, duels

1454
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:38,799
Speaker 2: with duals.

1455
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. But on the volume two, I

1456
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: got Black Star raing ghosts Um componing Jaysa styles me. Hey, Jonna, lie,

1457
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: I really wanted to be on this project.

1458
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 2: I really did. I tell you that something what happened.

1459
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 2: I was so busy with this busy. I was so

1460
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 2: busy with this ship that and I told him, I said, yo,

1461
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 2: I said, Volume one is heavy. You see the names.

1462
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: I said, listen, I'm like, nigga, you see what I'm

1463
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: working with.

1464
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna know what you told me. I'm gonna tell

1465
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:17,839
Speaker 3: you what you told me. You said you're gonna regret

1466
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 3: this ship. And I'm here look at you now, right hey,

1467
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 3: But but you know what I'm here right now regret.

1468
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 4: The Volume two is strong because again I got ael

1469
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 4: M J g U g K. So I kind of

1470
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 4: I kind of mixed the fuck, you know on listen, man,

1471
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,560
Speaker 4: I was already doing this. I gotta keep saying this

1472
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 4: but you said yes, So I was always listen man.

1473
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 4: I was able to get Sean Price, I was able

1474
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 4: to get new priory vocals. I was able to get

1475
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 4: new knag vocals like I didn't like, this is not

1476
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 4: no ship that you hearing is gonna be like yo,

1477
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 4: we heard that, nah, nigga, this ship. I really put

1478
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 4: this ship together to make sure that I did the

1479
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 4: right thing.

1480
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: I was telling Nori, you're gonna regret this ship, nigga

1481
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 1: like yo. But volume two at that strong, he said

1482
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 1: you're gonna and I was just like December fifth Friday.

1483
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: And then God bless me for the moment.

1484
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 3: Me and Capone wasn't on the same level, so I

1485
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 3: just didn't want to like I know, and then then

1486
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 3: me a Capone.

1487
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: Is so much great right now, we're so you all

1488
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: get we all have that. The ep m D almost

1489
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 1: didn't make it so again, I understand, Yeah, you.

1490
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 3: Gotta say this. This this is our last question. Everyone

1491
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 3: thinks it's so like crazy to be like like a

1492
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 3: Wu tang group nine people. People don't understand.

1493
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 1: Two people is just just Lee, just a leeth listen tretching.

1494
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: Vinnie don't work no more. Pete rockins CEO, don't work

1495
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: no more. You got I'm naming I missing a lot

1496
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: of groups.

1497
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, not Lord Jamar, even though that there

1498
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 2: were a trio with.

1499
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: What's his name.

1500
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 4: It's just people that grand people of the trip, people

1501
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 4: that are doing business. Will we bring we out here

1502
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 4: doing business. There's a lot of people who you would

1503
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 4: never see again because it got so bad, like being

1504
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 4: rock him and you know, you know sometimes it might,

1505
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 4: but again it happens like Norway said, you got to two,

1506
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 4: like you think nine is two?

1507
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 2: People like that that it can I mean, it gets

1508
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 2: like and it's people starting to work at a young

1509
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 2: age and then maturing and grown.

1510
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: Now it gets like that, but like you know, we

1511
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 1: all move on and we're doing what we're doing.

1512
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,560
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie to you. When when I was

1513
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 3: a uh and I was a child kind of like

1514
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 3: when y'all kind of like was breaking up or like

1515
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 3: doing that, I was like, man, what's wrong with these

1516
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 3: two people? And then I went through it myself, and

1517
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:49,799
Speaker 3: I always owed you a policy.

1518
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 1: Always groups, man, no matter what it's a rock group

1519
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 1: is a sustant group. It's always groups. Either somebody break

1520
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: off or do their own thing. Just the fact. And

1521
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 1: again I'm gonna say this one thing though too.

1522
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know about y'all, but it's always

1523
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,799
Speaker 4: got something to do with financials, you know, like somebody

1524
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 4: is not doing the money right. You know, somebody is

1525
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,600
Speaker 4: doing and then it could be your fault on my

1526
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 4: fault that I'm not handling my business, so I can't

1527
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 4: fault the other person. It's probably me didn't do the

1528
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 4: right thing. But then you can't have two presidents. Somebody

1529
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 4: have to be the president and somebody has to be

1530
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 4: the other one that you teach, and so when you

1531
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 4: fall back, you.

1532
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: Don't get taught.

1533
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 4: You know everything, and somebody else is exceeding, you know.

1534
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 4: So you know, I tell everybody too, this game is

1535
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 4: a fucking business. Do not look at people do not

1536
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 4: like you. The labels don't like you, Your lawyers don't

1537
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 4: like you, your managers don't like you. This shit is

1538
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 4: a business.

1539
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm not saying for everybody, but the majority that be key,

1540
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 2: Key and haha.

1541
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 4: Not your friends. They are here for a purpose, they

1542
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 4: have an a Just know that you do shit. Try

1543
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 4: to do shit yourself. Try to get somebody who you know,

1544
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 4: like how you got fn somebody who you trust, but

1545
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 4: do not put your trust in these people because they

1546
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck about you.

1547
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 1: These people are trying to get paid. Period. If I

1548
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: would have known that earlier, I probably wouldn't have been way, way,

1549
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 1: way off in that.

1550
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 4: But we all got jerky pause in the beginning. No

1551
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 4: matter what, we all caught it because we don't know.

1552
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 4: The game wasn't built for us. It wasn't made for us.

1553
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 4: It was made for them to do what they had

1554
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 4: to do.

1555
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 1: So just know that, yo, man, I want to thank

1556
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 1: you so much. Man.

1557
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 4: Okay, before I go, did we get anything that's going

1558
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 4: to be able to.

1559
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: The fact of everything? No, because I look at that,

1560
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: I look at everything. The thing is this is this

1561
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: is a live crowd.

1562
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a different This is a different

1563
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 2: We don't do this often, but we're glad we're here.

1564
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1565
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:01,919
Speaker 3: I mean, so guess what bigger big up to everybody

1566
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 3: that's in the crowd. Up to Monster shout Bobby say

1567
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 3: one thing.

1568
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 4: Everybody that's listening, I'm telling you right now, because everybody

1569
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 4: that make beats and that rhyme and that's in the studio,

1570
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 4: it doesn't have to be a habit, y'all.

1571
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: Can make money with just the people that follow you.

1572
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,719
Speaker 2: Five hundred people who will your community, who are your fans?

1573
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,799
Speaker 2: Five hundred people they all pay for you, they're your fans.

1574
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 2: To just know that again, just with one thousand people

1575
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 2: giving you five dollars, it's five grand. Imagine making that

1576
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 2: every month.

1577
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:42,560
Speaker 1: Who makes that? You know what you got to go

1578
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: to work for to do that?

1579
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 4: Like to go so imagine these people who are making

1580
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 4: thirty grand a month. It's not a fucking dream. If

1581
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 4: you just take the chance and say, Okay, here's my community,

1582
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,600
Speaker 4: I'm about to build them up, and whatever I do,

1583
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 4: they following me. And I'm gonna make sure that I'm

1584
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 4: not doing this just for my just for my health.

1585
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 4: The computer is out there for y'all. The fucking system

1586
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 4: that we do with the web is out there for y'all.

1587
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 4: The platform that you able to get is out there

1588
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 4: for y'all. But you got to look at it and

1589
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,719
Speaker 4: just look at it as fuck this other system, fuck

1590
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 4: everything else, fuck trying to be worldwide.

1591
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: Take your community and.

1592
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 4: Then and then focus on them, and they would pay

1593
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,839
Speaker 4: you as long as you out there period.

1594
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 1: That's right.

1595
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 2: Be a leader, not a follower. Do you want to

1596
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 2: bring my homie up and saying that be a leader,

1597
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 2: not a follower. D One is a is a perfect

1598
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 2: example of that. Oh d One, Yo, I'm so damn

1599
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 2: my bad, you know. Uh, I'm gonna say this. I'm

1600
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 2: so much of a fan of you.

1601
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 3: I'm so much a fan of your positivity, right because

1602
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 3: I wake up like you and.

1603
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: I've become somebody else, a monster.

1604
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 2: Afterwards, it wakes up Victor turns into Noriega.

1605
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 1: Damn wow. But but what I want to tell you

1606
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: is how much you mean.

1607
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 3: You're really a positive brother, and you really like like,

1608
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 3: you really like talk to the people. So I just

1609
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 3: want to, like, I just want to, I just want

1610
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 3: you to do Holy shit, Look, that's the devil.

1611
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: That's the devil. Yeah, it's definitely the devil.

1612
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 5: Because a man of guard is in a building right now.

1613
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: You heard me make some noise. If you got loved

1614
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 1: for God, you heard me. Yeah. And you're from New Orleans.

1615
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm from that five oh four all day you heard

1616
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 1: me listen all day.

1617
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 3: You probably from I'm sorry, you're probably from the worst

1618
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 3: hood ever.

1619
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 5: But lead ad, I mean, we're from the We were

1620
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 5: truly from a place where you're an underdog from the

1621
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 5: time you're born in New Orleans, you feel me you're

1622
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 5: an underdog from the time you're born. With that being said, man,

1623
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 5: I made it out because I kept God first in

1624
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 5: my life. But I did something very simple, y'all. We

1625
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 5: all have a slingshot, right. Y'all know David defeated Goliath.

1626
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 5: You know the story that David and Goliath that you go,

1627
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 5: David defeated Goliath using the what a slingshot?

1628
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: In life?

1629
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 5: Everybody has a slingshot, and we all got to figure

1630
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 5: out what's our slingshot.

1631
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 1: What's your gift, what's your passion.

1632
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 5: What's that gift that you could use to defeat the

1633
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 5: goliaths in your life?

1634
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 1: Right?

1635
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 5: So I recognize that the goliaths in my life like racism,

1636
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 5: like poverty, like discrimination, hatred.

1637
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: All these things. Man, hip hop is my slingshot.

1638
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 5: So I gotta figure out how could I use hip

1639
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 5: hop and use this powerful platform to defeat all the

1640
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 5: demons in this world. And that's why we can't be

1641
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 5: making a hip hop that's making it sound.

1642
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: Cool to murder your fellow black man. We can't be

1643
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:56,799
Speaker 1: making hip.

1644
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 5: Hop that's making it sound cool to sell dope to

1645
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 5: your community. You feel me, we can't be making hip

1646
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 5: hop that's making it sound cool to disrespect women, But

1647
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 5: then we turn around and call them queens. That don't

1648
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 5: make sense. We cry when rappers die, but we love

1649
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 5: when they glorify murder when they're alive, and it don't

1650
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 5: make sense. So I don't mind going against the grain

1651
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 5: because David was the underdog. You heard me, So me

1652
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 5: being the underdog in this rap game. I'm gonna do

1653
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 5: it my way. I'm not gonna curse in my music.

1654
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep God first and everything I do, I'm

1655
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 5: gonna stand on business if I gotta disagree with people

1656
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 5: at sometime.

1657
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: Rick Ross's people like that. I love you, but I

1658
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 1: squashed it. There you go.

1659
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 5: I love you, but I gotta be honest with you.

1660
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 5: Jim Jones, we squashed it, you heard me. Meek mill

1661
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 5: Is love you a Meek.

1662
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 1: I remember you're squashing it as well.

1663
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 5: But it's okay if you disagree sometimes as long as

1664
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 5: the reason why you're disagreeing is because you're trying to grow.

1665
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: At the end, you feel me, Yeah.

1666
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 3: What, yes, But I didn't know you will be here

1667
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 3: because had I knew you to have been here how

1668
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 3: to get you your flowers as well?

1669
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 1: Oh man, I could come back. I could this.

1670
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 3: You deserve this, man. I wake up online and I

1671
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 3: look forward to your messages. I look forward to what

1672
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:22,600
Speaker 3: you're saying. I look forward, Dang, I look forward like

1673
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 3: I look, I look, I look, I look. I'll be like,

1674
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 3: all right, cool, that's what I want to hear. And

1675
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 3: you know I grew up being against the rapper, right,

1676
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 3: that's what they called me.

1677
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: Right, That's not who I want to be. Come on,

1678
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: talk your talk, man.

1679
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 3: That's not who I want to industry. Don't want to

1680
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 3: be there. That's not who I want to be. And

1681
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 3: when I look at your messages and I look at

1682
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 3: your positivity, and I look at how you are addressing

1683
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 3: our community, I always love that you think you you

1684
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 3: think you maybe you thought you thought you wanted to

1685
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 3: meet me today. I wanted to meet you today.

1686
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,679
Speaker 5: Lord have mercy man, all glory to God.

1687
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: Man.

1688
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing too, I could have. I

1689
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 2: could have signed D one. You've been fucking up. Hey,

1690
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 2: you ain't signed nobody? You better you better hurry out?

1691
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 1: No, no better, hurry up? Signed D one?

1692
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 4: I met D one on the podcast right how many

1693
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 4: years ago, two years ago, two years ago he got here,

1694
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:33,600
Speaker 4: he had two thousand followers, wow wow, and now he

1695
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 4: got almost a million. So so everybody can say that

1696
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 4: they don't want to hear what he's saying, but how the.

1697
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: Fuck did he get them? Followers?

1698
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 2: Happening because but hind closed doors, everybody wants to be

1699
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 2: on this side, but they don't want to show it

1700
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 2: because it's not I don't want to switch. Is not

1701
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 2: cool to talk about that, but he Norwich. I was

1702
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 2: just about to say that any words, but I'm not

1703
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 2: gonna say that word.

1704
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm gonna tell you. We all

1705
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: need you, yet the game does nah. Hear me the

1706
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: fuck out. We all need you. That's why me squashed

1707
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 1: it with you. That's why I raw squashed it with you.

1708
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 3: That's why everybody because after you, you hear your plight

1709
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 3: and you hear your story, it makes sense, makes sense,

1710
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 3: So continue to do what the fuck you doing?

1711
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 1: The new Juvenile singles out right. Oh yeah, I'm.

1712
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 5: Featured on Juvenile new single yeah me and man in

1713
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 5: Fresh Yeah, and I got a new single out feature

1714
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,759
Speaker 5: of Boosy and I got a new single out.

1715
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 1: Feature of Fredo Bang we're shooting.

1716
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:45,560
Speaker 5: The video tomorrow, and man, it is no and I

1717
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 5: don't even know if I'm allowed to say this yet

1718
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 5: say it, oh man, say it? No, I legally, I

1719
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 5: don't know if I'm allowed to say it. Nor you're

1720
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 5: about to give me in trouble man, Sorry, hey man,

1721
01:27:58,200 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 5: Just know that I'm also a.

1722
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: Professor college professor as well. Hear man for that.

1723
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 5: And I need yeah, yeah, I need y'all to know

1724
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 5: that Norriid just did something that changed my life forever.

1725
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 5: He is an og in the game who has the

1726
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 5: power to change people's lives by co signing it. Most

1727
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 5: people will be a fan of you behind closed doors,

1728
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 5: but secretly they're secretly selfish, so they don't want to

1729
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 5: change somebody's life. Norwidy chose to pull me from the

1730
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 5: side of the stage and come up here and change

1731
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 5: my life by giving me his co sign right here.

1732
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 5: Pop is changing, right now, hip hop is changing. You

1733
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,560
Speaker 5: will get left behind if you want to hold on

1734
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 5: to the old way of doing things, robbing the artists,

1735
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 5: glorifying murder, glorifying drug dealing, disrespecting women. We are all

1736
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 5: a work in progress. We're all trying to grow. But

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01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 5: if you're not trying to grow like Norry is, like

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01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 5: EFN is, like e sermon is like d one is.

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01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 5: You're gonna get left behind. Make some noise, man, let's go.

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Speaker 1: I know I know my wife. I know my wife

1741
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:00,879
Speaker 1: his head somewhere.

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01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,839
Speaker 3: And Angie Martinez told me, she said, you should promote

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01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 3: this more, right, But I have never spent the night

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01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 3: out ever, not once. My wife is I don't know

1745
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 3: where she at. She better she better step up something, right, right,

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01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 3: But I've never spent And I don't know how to

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01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 3: promote being a loyal man. I don't know how to

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01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 3: promote because that there's no platform for that. There's no

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01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 3: platform for that. You have never you have never heard

1750
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 3: that like So I said that to Anngie Martinez, and

1751
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 3: Antie Martinez is like, yo, you have to start promoting that.

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01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:42,600
Speaker 3: My wife is there somewhere, and I know she, I

1753
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 3: know she, I know she she happy. I know she

1754
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,639
Speaker 3: gotta be because you know why you read the truth. Yes,

1755
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 3: it's the truth.

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01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 1: No, I have never spent the night out, not once,

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01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:58,640
Speaker 1: not once in my whole time of being with her.

1758
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: That girl love her like that, the women I love

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01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 1: that like that.

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01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 3: So but again, let me just end this with this,

1761
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 3: like I really respect you. I respect you. I know

1762
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 3: what you're doing and I want you to continue to

1763
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 3: do it. Eric Sherman, you my you, my brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother,

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01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 3: brother brother.

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01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 1: I moved to Miami because of you. I don't like

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01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 1: it like you did. I feel like you did. I

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01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: feel anyway. Let's go, So everybody here. I love y'all.

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01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: Thank y'all for coming here, y'all for coming out mansa

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01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 1: monster monster, Thank y'all. Every gonna come out there. Drink

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01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: with y'all.

1771
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 2: Take no, let's take a picture right here with everybody

1772
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 2: behind us, Let's go, Let's do it.

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