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Speaker 1: Welcome to the official Colts Podcast Off. Jeffrey Gorman joined

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Speaker 1: week in and week out from Colts dot com. Colts

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Speaker 1: senior writer. This is JJ Stankomits and of course miss

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Speaker 1: Lera Overton. These two do it all when it comes

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Speaker 1: to following the Colts and the latest updates, and we've

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Speaker 1: got a lot for you today. We're gonna look at

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Speaker 1: the in house free agents, who's gonna be back next year,

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Speaker 1: some familiar faces who may not be back next year,

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Speaker 1: But most importantly the news of this week, it has

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Speaker 1: been announced lou Anarumo is the new defensive coordinator for

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Speaker 1: the Colts defense under Shane Steiken. JJ, let me start

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Speaker 1: with you. He came from Cincinnati. This is a gentleman

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Speaker 1: that spent six years coaching defensive backs in West Lafayette

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Speaker 1: at Purdue back in the day from two thousand and

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Speaker 1: four to twenty eleven, and obviously had some great success

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Speaker 1: with that Super Bowl reaching team in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: two with Cincinnati. Why is this a twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: What did I say two thousand and two? Sorry, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty twenty one season? Why is this a

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Speaker 1: great higher for Colts defense?

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Speaker 2: So let's get this out of the way. The Bengals

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Speaker 2: defense last year is not very good. I think anyone

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Speaker 2: who watched a single Bengals game last year, you know,

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Speaker 2: you probably watching one of those games on Thursday night

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Speaker 2: where they're playing the Ravens and they couldn't stop anyone.

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Speaker 2: That is that That is something that I've kind of

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Speaker 2: had to look at and Okay, why were they maybe

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Speaker 2: not that good? And I think the general thing that

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Speaker 2: I've seen and I've read and I've learned is that

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Speaker 2: that defense was a little devoid of talent. Trey Hendrickson's

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Speaker 2: an awesome football player. He had seventeen and a half

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Speaker 2: sacks in the last two seasons, in each of the

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Speaker 2: last two seasons, but beyond that, I think they maybe

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Speaker 2: struggled to find guys who were, you know, above average

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Speaker 2: NFL players. I think this Colts defense is more talent baseline.

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Speaker 2: And look, any it doesn't matter how great a defensive

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Speaker 2: to win. Vic Fangio came into Chicago. Vic Fangio considered

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Speaker 2: probably the best defensive coordinator of this generation. His first

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Speaker 2: two years in Chicago, that defense stunk because they had

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Speaker 2: So get lou Anarumo some more players, I think baseline,

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Speaker 2: that's where I start. Okay, I think you can see

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Speaker 2: more of what we saw out of him when that

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Speaker 2: Bengals defense was rolling in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: two than last year. And look, the Bengals have I

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Speaker 2: had to invest a lot of money in their offense

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Speaker 2: and that offensive line in Joe Burrow soon to be

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Speaker 2: in Jamar Chase. That means you can't put as much

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Speaker 2: replenish some of those vets that really defined you know

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Speaker 2: that that era of Bengals football, Like they lose Jesse

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Speaker 2: So that doesn't mean lou Anarumo just gets a total

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Speaker 2: pass on the whole thing. But I do think that's

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Speaker 2: important context. If you're saying why the cole tier, a

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Speaker 2: defensive guy who just got fired in their defense stunk

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Speaker 2: last year, there's more. There's more context here, there's more nuance.

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Speaker 2: It's not as black and white.

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Speaker 1: Lara Listen, new defensive coordinator comes in, the general manager

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Speaker 1: in the front office, They know what kind of They

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Speaker 1: know what kind of player that this defensive coordinator wants.

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Speaker 1: And that's a direct shout out to Chris Ballard working

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Speaker 1: hand in hand with lou Anarumo as far as what's

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Speaker 1: going to be successful in his defense. And according to

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Speaker 3: And it kind of feels similar to, Hey, you brought

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Speaker 4: I do think that you're going.

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Speaker 3: To give a lot of that power to lou Ana

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Speaker 3: Roumo in terms of examining who's available in free agency,

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Speaker 3: who's going to be available within the draft. Who are

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Speaker 4: Out what you're going to try to do.

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Speaker 3: One thing about this particular announcement, though, is the timing

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Speaker 4: I think is really interesting because it happens so quick.

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Speaker 3: There are a number of really attractive defenseensive coordinator openings

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Speaker 3: I think that's a huge indication of what he sees

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Speaker 3: in the potential for this defense and immediately because we

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Speaker 3: immediate returns from last season, a huge improvement versus the

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Speaker 2: I think it also shows the Colts were aggressive in this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that this to me is a it's a win

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Speaker 2: Dennis Allen. Yeah he as DC and it looks like

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Speaker 2: it might be Dennis Allen in Chicago. But you know,

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Speaker 2: you're getting mentioned with one of the best or the

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Speaker 2: hey come and be the DC. A lot of other

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Speaker 2: for the Colts to get this deal done, I think

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Speaker 2: that that is a win for Chris Ballard, that's a

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Speaker 2: to go out and get this thing done now as

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Speaker 2: opposed to waiting because you never know what might happen.

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Speaker 2: You know, Detroit has an opening, Aaron Runn goes to

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Speaker 2: great job.

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Speaker 4: That's right there.

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Speaker 2: He Dan Campbell had lou Anarumo as his interim defensive

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Speaker 2: Miami Dalphins. It's like, there's stuff here that could have

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Speaker 2: wound up happening that the Colts just said, no, we're

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Speaker 2: getting this thing done. Lou Anarumo clearly saw a good

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, if we want to talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit about his scheme too, like I love what

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Speaker 2: he did over his six years in Cincinnati, just making

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Speaker 3: I'm going to make two points really quickly. One thing

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Speaker 3: I really like about this too, is now you have

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Speaker 3: recently taken teams to Super Bowls. Shane Steichen was an

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Speaker 3: Lou Anarriumo was a decordinator that took Cincinnati to a

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Speaker 3: Shane to work with. Right, that experience that lou is

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Speaker 3: going to bring in, bringing, you know, some outside philosophies

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Speaker 4: And this is going to lend itself to some scheme things.

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Speaker 3: One area in which the Colts really struggled last season

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Speaker 3: was second half adjustments closing out games. Right, we kind

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Speaker 3: of saw that that was the tale of many situations

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Speaker 3: across the twenty twenty fourth season. For in terms of

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Speaker 3: halftime adjustments with lou Anarumo's defenses, they allowed touchdowns on

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Speaker 2: There we go, okay, so he can ten above all.

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Speaker 2: You want to talk about second half adjustments. He maybe

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Speaker 4: The AFC Championship, Right, So I.

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Speaker 2: Pulled up those numbers. So Mahomes in the first half

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Speaker 2: He had a passer rating of like thirty. And what

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Speaker 2: ana Arumo did was he dropped eight guys into coverage.

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Speaker 2: This is like kind of a famous thing around the NFL. Now,

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Speaker 2: like lou Anarumo dropping eight guys into coverage against Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: he dropped eight players into coverage on twelve snaps in

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Speaker 2: the second half in a ver time. On those plays,

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Speaker 2: Mahomes had a passer rating of I believe it was

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Speaker 2: like ten point seven. Who he threw two picks, he

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't why hold on one second, I'm not doubting

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. It's interesting as all get out. Wh

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Speaker 1: wouldn't they run a ball more? Why wouldn't Mahomes and

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid say, Hey, if they're dropping eight back in

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Speaker 2: Because they they still were, like the Bengals are still

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Speaker 2: excuse me, those plays, even though they were dropping eight guys,

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Speaker 2: it was you know, they were dropping a spy. They

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Speaker 2: Hubbard gets a sack on third down where he's dropping

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Speaker 2: I looked it up. They ran twelve plays where they

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Speaker 2: No team in the last five years has dropped eight

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Speaker 2: entire playoff game. So you want to talk about like

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Speaker 2: the change up, Jeffrey, that was like, yeah, that was

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Speaker 2: like Pedro Martinez, the level change up right.

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Speaker 3: There, usage of the nickel again, I'm drawing upon my girl, Cynthia.

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Speaker 3: Cynthia Freeland is gonna have to give her the credit here.

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Speaker 3: She was talking about specifically Mike Hilton, who joined Cincinnati

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Speaker 4: I guess the other one, Oh please, I hope. I

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Speaker 4: was hoping you would ask Kenny Moore the second there.

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Speaker 1: You go there it is sure tackler.

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Speaker 2: And Mike Hilton will blitz. Kenny I think has a

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Speaker 1: You're way in front of me now, j Jam jumping

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Speaker 1: ahead of the under. I'm setting this up for you.

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Speaker 1: We know what we had.

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Speaker 4: We anticipated your game plan, so we made our adjustment.

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Speaker 1: That's true, but we know what we had. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: but we know what we had. With Gus Bradley's defense,

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Speaker 1: it was it wasn't stale, it wasn't this, but you know,

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Speaker 1: he I'm gonna play you this way. There's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be many hooks and ladders and not many different things

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Speaker 1: that are there. It's pretty basic. You know what you're getting.

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Speaker 1: That's not the same with lou Anarumo. That is not

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Speaker 1: the same because he's been compared to you know, the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys had brought it up earlier. He's

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Speaker 2: Jalen Jones, a Juju brantsa Kenny Moore the second Nick

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Speaker 2: Cross those.

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Speaker 3: Guys, and with a group that has so much prided

435
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Speaker 3: itself on taking the ball away. I'm looking to this

436
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Speaker 3: right here. They forced one and a half turnovers on

437
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 3: average per game from twenty three to twenty four.

438
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Speaker 4: Which was tied for six in the NFL.

439
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Speaker 3: And I would say, not even with as much talent

440
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Speaker 3: as you currently have right when you just look, you know,

441
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 3: kind of par for par position by position. So yeah,

442
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Speaker 3: I think that is really going to be, you know,

443
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Speaker 3: a nice fit. A nice marriage with you know, the

444
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 3: talent that you have, what you have seen, what they've

445
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Speaker 3: produced us far, and then also that scheme and the resume.

446
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Speaker 4: That he brings on.

447
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Speaker 1: Give me the stats again with Trey Hendrickson. Remember you

448
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Speaker 1: did that in a little minute ago. Yeah, there's a

449
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Speaker 1: reason on this. All he did was get in the backfield.

450
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Speaker 1: All he did was get after the quarterback. When he's

451
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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, Trey hendricks In, Okay, what'd you have him at?

452
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Speaker 1: Seventeen and a half?

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Speaker 2: Seventeen and a half sacks in each of the last

454
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Speaker 2: two years. This year he was a first team APL pro.

455
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Speaker 2: He led the NFL with those seventeen and a half sacks.

456
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Speaker 1: So we saw what he did in Cincinnati. Who is

457
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Speaker 1: that guy? And who is that guy? Who's our Trey Hendrickson?

458
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 1: Who will lou Annarumo? And I know that's right?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you'd like it to be lat toot

460
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Speaker 2: to right.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna get those right, hey, twelve to fifteen tackle

462
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Speaker 1: or excuse me, saxsonny year.

463
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Speaker 2: But okay, but here here's the thing, Trey Hendrickson, it

464
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Speaker 2: took him for that. I mean, yeah, he had six

465
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Speaker 2: and a half sacks in his three years in the NFL.

466
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Speaker 2: First three years of New Orleans, then he hit thirteen

467
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Speaker 2: and a half sacks, signed with the Bengals the next year,

468
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Speaker 2: and then went fourteen eight, seventeen and a half, seventeen

469
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Speaker 2: and a half. It just hiring. Hiring lou Anrumo is

470
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Speaker 2: not going to like wave pixie dust to Lato and

471
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Speaker 2: tournament to Trey Hendrickson. But I do think hopefully you

472
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Speaker 2: see some more gains. I think you saw good things

473
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Speaker 2: from lat too. Where the Colts defense really struggled last

474
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Speaker 2: year was that they allowed so many quick passes of

475
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Speaker 2: just like get the ball out and lat too beat

476
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Speaker 2: the guy in front of him and the ball be

477
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Speaker 2: whizzen by his ear because you know, teams new let's

478
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Speaker 2: just get this ball out quick, because the Colts are

479
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Speaker 2: going to struggle to tackle. And you also saw a

480
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Speaker 2: lot of six man protections where you have a tight end,

481
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Speaker 2: you have a running back whatever staying home to basically

482
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Speaker 2: just say, if you're gonna rush for you're not going

483
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Speaker 2: to get home against this there's no shot. So that's

484
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Speaker 2: where if teams are going to keep doing that, which

485
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Speaker 2: they probably won't against the lou Anromo defense. But if

486
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Speaker 2: they do. Okay, how do we attack this differently? I

487
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 2: think you saw Gus Bradley try to sprinkle some new

488
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: stuff in with sim pressures this year, but the Colts

489
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 2: are still near the bottom of the NFL in SIM

490
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Speaker 2: pressure rate and in blitz rate. You might be bottom fifteen,

491
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Speaker 2: bottom half of the league with lou Anarumo, but I

492
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Speaker 2: do think those blitzer are going to be a little

493
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Speaker 2: bit different in how they look. And you know, Gus

494
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: Bradley never really was a cover zero guy. Lou Anarumo

495
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Speaker 2: will sprink sprinkle in some cover zero. There's gonna pull

496
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Speaker 2: out blitzes.

497
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Speaker 1: There will be some mad scientists at work. Can I

498
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Speaker 1: just ask you what would you like to see, Lara?

499
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Speaker 1: I mean, what would you like to see? Overall? The

500
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Speaker 1: main thing that lou Anirumo brings into this defense that

501
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Speaker 1: we have been lacking for the last couple of years,

502
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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 3: It's just kind of an overall intensity urgency, like just

504
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Speaker 3: feel like a tone, you know, like just setting that

505
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Speaker 3: tone is really what I'm like, And that's something And

506
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Speaker 3: the reason I kind of go that way is because

507
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Speaker 3: that's something that you can gauge early on, you know,

508
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Speaker 3: even before you get into training camp and all of

509
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 3: those periods, Like really, as guys kind of start coming

510
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 3: back in for some of the OTA's Mini camp and

511
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 3: all that, that's where you can see some of that

512
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Speaker 3: established where you're maximizing a lot of that just in

513
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Speaker 3: terms of what you're implementing, what the expectation is, and

514
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Speaker 3: how guys are responding to it as well.

515
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Speaker 4: What do you think?

516
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Speaker 1: What do you think overall? Just the biggest difference from

517
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Speaker 1: this Gus Bradley led defense that we've seen the last

518
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Speaker 1: couple of years to this Louon Arumo defense. The biggest

519
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Speaker 1: difference that you'd like to see.

520
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Speaker 2: It's just gonna be less static. You're gonna see more

521
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Speaker 2: of the picture changing on the back end more consistently.

522
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Speaker 2: And again I don't Gus Bradley did do some of that. Sure,

523
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: it wasn't like he was just we're playing Hawk three

524
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Speaker 2: and like that's it. You know, he did do some

525
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Speaker 2: things that were different. He did change stuff up. But

526
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Speaker 2: Lou and Aruma, I think, will crank that to a

527
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 2: different level in terms of the different coverages. You'll see

528
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Speaker 2: how he disguises them just to try to make because

529
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Speaker 2: the as you're trying to make the quarterback Hitch with

530
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Speaker 2: throwing something different at them, changing the picture post snap.

531
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Speaker 2: I think you have a defense to Lari's point that

532
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Speaker 2: that really does pride itself and taking the ball away.

533
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Speaker 2: You've got guys who we've seen take the ball away.

534
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Speaker 2: You get that quarterback to Hitch all of a sudden,

535
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Speaker 2: I think, you know, you might see some some real

536
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Speaker 2: big numbers out of like guy like Kenny, you know

537
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Speaker 2: where he could be a real impact guy. I think

538
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Speaker 2: in this defense you again, you brought up Mike Mike

539
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Speaker 2: Hilton Lera like Mike Hilton is a really good player. Yeah,

540
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 2: on those Bengals defenses a couple of years ago. Like

541
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Speaker 2: I could see Kenny. We know he's a really good player.

542
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Speaker 2: I could see Kenny having a you know, a couple

543
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Speaker 2: of really good years here with lou Anaruma if things go.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, wait, he does have some talent impact there.

545
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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what we are going to talk

546
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Speaker 1: about some talent now. Obviously we'll have the latest with

547
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Speaker 1: lou Anarumo. And by the way, these two will be

548
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Speaker 1: speaking with the defensive coordinator in the upcoming days. Colts

549
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Speaker 1: dot com, oo Kerry and all social medias that you

550
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,239
Speaker 1: follow your colts on they'll have it as well. So

551
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: look for JJ and Lara to be sitting down with

552
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Speaker 1: coach lou Anarumo and going over some of his defensive

553
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Speaker 1: philosophies and some of the questions that you're hearing right there.

554
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: They will ask the defensive coordinator as well. So, guys, now,

555
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to get into the free agency

556
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 1: of the in house free agents. Who knows what Chris

557
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: Ballard and company are going to do on the outside stuff,

558
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: but it's the in house free agents. But JJ, I

559
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: need to start with you.

560
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Speaker 4: Where are we?

561
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Speaker 1: I think I know the basic area we're at with

562
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: salary cap and what we have as far as that

563
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: forty million, forty four million I'm getting from SPO Track

564
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: or whatever it's called, and then I get another one

565
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: from so we're in that sort of general ballpark. Do

566
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Speaker 1: you see that as the same total as far as

567
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Speaker 1: availability when it comes to salary cap a couple of

568
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Speaker 1: months from now, and if not, what will change that figure?

569
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Speaker 2: Usually? What changes that figure? You know you have guys

570
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Speaker 2: who could be released. The colts traditionally haven't done a

571
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: ton of that. What usually, like you kind of have

572
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: to keep in mind with that salary cap figure is like, Okay,

573
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 2: this guy's due for an extension coming down the pike, right.

574
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: The Colts don't have a ton of that right now.

575
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have a guy like in

576
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: previous years with like Quentin Nelson, right, yeah, who's just

577
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: you know they got to Forrest Buckner and Zire Franklin

578
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 2: done last offseason. It's like, I don't know if you

579
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 2: have that guy who's like screaming, like coming down the pike.

580
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 2: I think Bernard Ryman might be the closest on that,

581
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: but usually sometimes it's like, Okay, you have this figure,

582
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: but you got to set some of it away because

583
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: you need to get this guy done or whatever it

584
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: might be. So that part of it is going to

585
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: be interesting in how that might impact the Colts spending

586
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: this offseason and how aggressive they get if they say, yeah,

587
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 2: maybe we need to get something done with a couple

588
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: of guys next year, but for right now, let's just

589
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: maybe maybe that is a change with it, because again,

590
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Speaker 2: in previous years, it's all the Colts aren't spending in

591
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Speaker 2: free agency. Well they were, it's because they were taking

592
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Speaker 2: care of their own guys, and maybe you don't have

593
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: as many of those guys who you're like circling of,

594
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Speaker 2: like we cannot afford to lose this guy. So maybe

595
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Speaker 2: that leads to a different strategy. I don't know.

596
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see, and definitely going to lead to

597
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: a different looking locker room. It just is what it

598
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: is the NFL. From one season to the next, new faces,

599
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: change guys. I'm gonna start here. This is going to

600
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: be a fun little exercise. It's it's touchy, it's a

601
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: slippery slope because some of these players we love, we

602
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: want them to stay in the building and be colts

603
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: for the rest of their career, but it just doesn't

604
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: happen in the NFL. So I want to go over

605
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: some of these in house free agents with you, and

606
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: I'll start with you Lea about what they bring to

607
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: the team, what they would bring to the team next year,

608
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: and understand that we possibly could lose these to another franchise.

609
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Speaker 1: I want to start off right, we're talking defense with

610
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Speaker 1: lou An Aruma. Let's talk with EJ. Speed first and foremost.

611
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Speaker 1: Right there a guy who's up like that and a

612
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Speaker 1: guy who's been a wingman for Zaire Franklin for a

613
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Speaker 1: couple of years now start there there's a possibility we

614
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Speaker 1: lose EJ.

615
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Speaker 3: Speed Man, and that dynamic with that linebacker group is

616
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: always just so fun. And when you know another guy

617
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 3: you talk about development. You know, he was pretty raw,

618
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 3: but the Cold Seams saw something in him early on

619
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Speaker 3: that draft process that they invested in and then you know,

620
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Speaker 3: continue to invest in him. You know, there's like there's

621
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Speaker 3: an energy that Zaire and EJ have in compliment to

622
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Speaker 3: one another, like on the field with the way that

623
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Speaker 3: they play. I mean, when you drafted DJ speed whoever

624
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Speaker 3: would have thought that you wouldn't have you know, Shaq

625
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: Leonard in twenty twenty four, right, And so I think

626
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: the role with which he has had to step into

627
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Speaker 3: and embraced, you know, as you go back to you know,

628
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 3: midway point of the twenty three season. Yeah, I mean

629
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Speaker 3: it's it's pretty it's significant. Like we've seen EJ be

630
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 3: a playmaker. We've you know, seen him be able to

631
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Speaker 3: be versatile you know within the defense with the different

632
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Speaker 3: things that he's been.

633
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Speaker 4: Able to do. So Yeah, plus he's just so much

634
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 4: darn fun to talk to. That's the other thing.

635
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think the one thing to keep

636
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: in mind here is the Colts have in years past.

637
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: They have in years past kind of replenish that linebacker room.

638
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: They let Bobby Okarake go, you let Anthony Walker Junior go.

639
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: You know, hey, we've got younger guys coming through. Do

640
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: the Colts do that again with EJ. Speed where he

641
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: got a jail and Carlison the roster and say, maybe,

642
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: you know what, maybe we just want to bring him

643
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: along and not spend as much at that linebacker position.

644
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Speaker 3: EJ.

645
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: Go, get that contract that you deserve, but maybe you

646
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: just won't be from here. I don't know. We'll see,

647
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: We're gonna see there is a precedent for that if

648
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Speaker 2: the Colts go that route.

649
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: And one thing to Carla's I was really impressed that

650
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: he had the extended obviously time away given you know,

651
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: the injury he you know, was out what I don't know,

652
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: seven weeks.

653
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah about and came back and it came.

654
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: Came back and had a career game like right off

655
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: of that.

656
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: Like, I think that was one of the really impressive

657
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: aspects for me.

658
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 4: That indicated, you know.

659
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: The type of pro that he is, the type of

660
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: player that he is with you know, seeing that opportunity

661
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: and making sure And that's one of the things that

662
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: in talking to him after that game, he was just saying, like,

663
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: I wanted to be sure that I could show the

664
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Speaker 3: guys that they could trust me. If I'm out there,

665
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: they can trust me to make plays on the field.

666
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: All Right, guys, I'm gonna throw some more names at

667
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: you that are up this year. Double dip right here,

668
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: Julian Blackman, Dio a Dangbo j you're rough. What do

669
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: you think these guys are on the open market right now?

670
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: And we saw Julian last year on the open market.

671
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: Colts went back and signed him for another year.

672
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dio Dio is going to be an interesting one

673
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: because the Colts really really liked him coming out in

674
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, right like, and they knew this is

675
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: going to be a process with Dio Dangbo coming off

676
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: that Achilles it it maybe stunted his growth at least

677
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. And you know, he he, he

678
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: took a step back in terms of his production this year,

679
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: going from what was a nine eight and a half

680
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: nine sacks last year to a couple this year. So

681
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: you know, how much does that play into it? How

682
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: much does a new I think for everyone on defense

683
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: now it's you got a fresh set eyes here. You

684
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: got Lou and arumoh Heiti. You know you want to

685
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: keep this guy or not. You know, we'll see what

686
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: Dio he He mostly was a rotational guy over his

687
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: time here. But I do wonder if some team is like,

688
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: you know, they're looking at his tape in twenty twenty

689
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: three and saying, yeah, we can work with that. He's

690
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: six six, two eighty six. We liked him in the

691
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: draft too. I wonder if that that might play into it.

692
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: If we're to get another opportunity j J.

693
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: Whether it's here or somewhere else, this young man gets paid.

694
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: I agreed.

695
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: Defensive lineman, I mean, look, Samson Ebucom got a pretty

696
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: good contractor for the Colts. His career hind sacks was

697
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: I think four and a half or five, and then

698
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: he went out and said, you know he almost double that,

699
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: right with nine and a half and twenty three. So

700
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: defensive lineman like Diowa Dangbo usually get paid.

701
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

702
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 3: Usually there's a ferocity in you know, his play on

703
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: the field. You know, every time he's out there, just

704
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: looked it up like thirty one tackles, including three sacks,

705
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: two forced fumbles, and a recovered fumble over seventeen regular

706
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 3: season games.

707
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 4: Like pretty impressive.

708
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: Just like what you know, what he has done in

709
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: the time he has been on the field.

710
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I wonder how much him going from

711
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: eight sacks to three sacks he is going to impact. Yeah,

712
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: you know, because I think last year you looked at

713
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: him and Okay, he's got eight sacks, Like, yeah, JJ,

714
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: can he take off here and then he kind of

715
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: drops back to three.

716
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure there follows up with eight sacks after eight

717
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: sacks the year before, he's getting young man is getting

718
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: a lot more. You're absolutely right on this. Julian Blackman.

719
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: I got to jump there the veteran and we were

720
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: talking about lou Ana Rumo a lot a lot this

721
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: this podcast. He starts from the back working forward, Like

722
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: we talked about, he was loaded with that Super Bowl

723
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: run that he had defensive backfield, but he had the

724
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: safety position and an hon A Rumo defense. It's huge.

725
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: It's obviously huge. We saw what he had with Jesse

726
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: Bates down in Cincinnati. But where does Julian Blackman fit

727
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: in with his age, his injuries. You know where he's been,

728
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: He's been here for more than a few years now.

729
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: Does is that a fit that you could see coming back?

730
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: Well?

731
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 4: I think you do.

732
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 3: Always value a veteran presence at that position, right, There's

733
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: something to be said for that, especially a defensive coordinator

734
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 3: with that dB type of background. But one of the

735
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: things that Julian admitted going into, you know, exploring the

736
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: market last offseason was, you know, the market for safeties

737
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: wasn't maybe as hot as what they what he anticipated

738
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: or what I should say his agent advised him, or

739
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: you know, what they explored.

740
00:32:59,160 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: It to be.

741
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: So it'll be really interesting with how they approach that

742
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: particular position, maybe not necessarily because of Julian himself, but

743
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: just because of certain trends that you see with different

744
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 3: positions like that, that there wasn't necessarily as much money

745
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: you know, maybe out there in the pool for the

746
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: taking among the guys that were available.

747
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: The one thing I would say here is Luann Arumo

748
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: has valued veteran safeties in the past, Jesse Bates, von Bell,

749
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: and when those guys left Cincinnati, that back end maybe

750
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: struggled a little bit, and maybe that goes into him

751
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: varying his coverages and stuff. So maybe Julian Blackman, given

752
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: he's got experience playing both strong and the free, playing

753
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: some different kinds of coverages there, maybe that even though

754
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: it's a new defensive coordinator. I do wonder if that

755
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: might impact this. And the Colts obviously know too what

756
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: Julian was dealing with the shoulder, all right, so I

757
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: wonder if that might play into Julian maybe being a

758
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: guy who does come back off of that defense last.

759
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: Just like you said that, veteran leadership is so important

760
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL locker room and a huddle, for I don't.

761
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: Necessarily know that you have anyone like it when you

762
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 3: talk about okay with the linebacker room, like you obviously

763
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: drafted Jail and Carlis, I don't know that you really

764
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 3: have an air apparent.

765
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not an intern.

766
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: That, yeah, exactly.

767
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 3: And so maybe for you know, the price point you

768
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 3: were able to get Julian last year, if you can

769
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 3: find a way to do something similar, you know, this year,

770
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: and you know, make it a somewhat team friendly deal,

771
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 3: could be a really attractive situation.

772
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: I do think too, whatever the Colts do, if they

773
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: do get a veteran safety to kind of pair with

774
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: nit Cross. That probably wouldn't preclude them from taking a

775
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 2: safety in the year's draft.

776
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. However it might look keep an eye

777
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: on that guys. One last name on the defense, I'll

778
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: flip over to the offense. An important player, I'm sorry,

779
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: an important player. Grant Stewart, a guy that's a special

780
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: team's ace. We saw what he did when when EJ

781
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 1: was out, we saw that Carlis was out during that time.

782
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: He goes in what such a season record I think

783
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: it was what it was in nineteen or twenty total

784
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: tackles one on special teams in night team while playing

785
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: on the field. So Grant Stewart is up, a guy

786
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: that you you know they got in to trade a

787
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: couple of years ago from Tampa and an important guy

788
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: in the special teams.

789
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: I can see a guy like that coming back. Yeah, yeah,

790
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: good depth, Yeah, you know obviously he's shown it. And

791
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: a guy who's a special teamer who you trust. I

792
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 2: would I would say, yeah, that's a guy you might

793
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: circle and say you might want to bring that guy back.

794
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 4: And when you hear the stories about him, like in practice, like.

795
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 3: They have to like dial it back like you're like

796
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: when it's when you're having to like pull the reins back,

797
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: like they love the intensity. Shane Steichen, I remember, like,

798
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: you know, a few months back and doing a three

799
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: sixty episode and asking him about just.

800
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 4: Grant Stewart and you know, his play and his approach.

801
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: He's like relentless effort every single time. It's reletting you

802
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: know you love you know how much Shane loves that,

803
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 3: And like I feel like that, I'm not sure that

804
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: there's really, you know, a guy who kind of embodies that,

805
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: Like I mean, you could probably pull train, but like

806
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 3: to me, I just have this visual of like Grant

807
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 3: and the way that you know he attacks on the field,

808
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: whether it's on special teams, whether it's on defense. So

809
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: you feel like too that I mean, all indications are too.

810
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: I do think he wants to be back here. He's

811
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: found a good fit here, he sounds a home here,

812
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 3: built his family, you know here, grown his family here.

813
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: So I do think that, you know, it's for him

814
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: wanting to find a way to make it work.

815
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: But for all those reasons, there are going to be

816
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: other teams probably interesting.

817
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: Interested in him to a good call. JJ are absolutely right.

818
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: And by the way, one of the greatest stories in

819
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: the NFL. Look it up, Google it, do what you

820
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: have to do. Grant Stewart shouldn't be playing in the NFL,

821
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: but he is. It's a great story, hopefully a Disney movie. Guys,

822
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: let's go to the offense. I want to start with

823
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: one of the captains up front, Ryan Kelly. We saw

824
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: him play, you know. I said it to the young

825
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: man a couple of weeks ago. I said, you were

826
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: off for a month and all of a sudden, you

827
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 1: come back and you rush for three hundred and thirty

828
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: five yards. Is there a connection here? JJ, start with you,

829
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly. What he means to this offense? And I

830
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: know he's a guy that's going to command a big dollar.

831
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: This is a guy that's proven it and he's been

832
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: a pro bowler and a you know, all pro in

833
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: his day and been a captain for a long time,

834
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly. And where we're at. We saw what happened

835
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: last year in the draft of Tanner Bordolini. Where do

836
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: you think the Colts are with the veteran like that.

837
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: It's a really good question, because the Colts have value.

838
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: What Ryan Kelly's brought to this franchise for the last

839
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: almost a decade. At this point, Ryan Kelly can still

840
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: play really good football. I think there's value in having

841
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: a veteran center with a young quarterback like Anthony Richardson.

842
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 2: Having said that, you did draft Tanne Bordolini last year

843
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: and we saw, you know, him, have some decent moments

844
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: when he got in there. So that one is going

845
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: to be a really interesting one to sort out. I

846
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: don't have a feel for how it's going to go.

847
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: I could easily see the logic in either path that

848
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: the Colts take.

849
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: Not surprised. If the team says, that's our guy, we

850
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: want him, give us two years Ryan and we're happy,

851
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: or if he comes back here, you're not surprised either.

852
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: That's what.

853
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what.

854
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: I just don't think the young man's done playing top

855
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: quality football. Yeah, you know, as far.

856
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 4: As Ryan Kelly goes agree, Oh absolutely, Yeah.

857
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go there. This is a fun one. I'm

858
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: going to the offense here. I'm gonna double up on

859
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: these guys. Now we'll get to Will Fryes. Don't worry.

860
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 1: I know you guys love Will fries But the tight

861
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: end room Kylon Grants and Mowalley Cox. We've seen, well

862
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: what have we seen out of our tight ends in

863
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: the last couple of years? This one, I I know,

864
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's like the Shane Stikeen's offense. I

865
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: guess what I'm trying to ask you is is there

866
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: a guy? Is it gonna be like a brock Bowers

867
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: type of a tight end that is going I think

868
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: if you have the guy, If you have the guy,

869
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: then he can be the guy, but you can't make

870
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: him into something that he's not type things. So where

871
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: does that leave us with Grant? Ye?

872
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: If there are brock Bowers just available, you know, like

873
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: there's a reason he is, you know, as sad as

874
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 3: the season he has.

875
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 4: What do you think?

876
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: So?

877
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: I know the production has not just it hasn't been there.

878
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: There's no way to spin it or sugarcoat it. The

879
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: production from the tight end room has not been there.

880
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: There's a world where Moley Cox is a good fit

881
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: on this football team still for what he does as

882
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: a run blocker. I don't want to discount that. Now.

883
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 2: At the end of the season, he said, you know,

884
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: he's kind of looking for somewhere he can go that

885
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: he can win. Maybe that's Indie, maybe that's not. I

886
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: think Moe is over his career. He's played quite a

887
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: bit of football and he can probably find uh, he

888
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 2: can probably find a place that'll that'll have him. I

889
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: think absolutely, because he is a good run blocker. I know,

890
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 2: you know, you say, oh, you know, you get seven

891
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: catches a year, but that's not what his job should be.

892
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: His job should primarily be a run blocker who's, by

893
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: the way, really good at it. And I think if

894
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 2: the Colts were to bring him back, I know what's

895
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 2: gonna happen. If the Colts bring him back, there's gonna

896
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: be this huge opera on social media. What are they doing?

897
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 2: Bring these stinking guy? Yeah right, you can still draft

898
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: to guy. But also don't think about Marley Cox as

899
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: a tight end who should be the next Dallas Goddard.

900
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: You know, think about Marley Cox is a guy who's

901
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: a really valuable run blocker on this team, who's unselfish.

902
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: Hope he doesn't go on.

903
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 3: I mean, a good run blocker and a really great

904
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: red zone threat too when you need to.

905
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 2: Bring it, even if you only catch this one touchdown.

906
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's what I'm saying. Is at least the option

907
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 4: is there.

908
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: You've got it right like you can you can go

909
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: to that, you've got that in your arsenal that you

910
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 3: can rely upon when needed.

911
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: Guys Kylin grantson direct opposite if you will, in my

912
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: opinion of what Moiley Cox is who's a large target,

913
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: a big man and blacker. Kylen Granson also a good blocker.

914
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: I know that he gets in there. Where does a

915
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: guy like that fit in this offense? As far as

916
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: like Kylin granted a veteran who's done it and JJ

917
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: again we said these guys just didn't get their hands

918
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: on the ball, but when he did, there's a lot

919
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: of splash with Kylin.

920
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are also a couple drops in there. I

921
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 2: mean that that, you know, I think about that one

922
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: in New England. He's a guy who I do know

923
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: that coaches have really liked him. Know, coaches over the

924
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 2: years from Frank Reich to Jeff Saturday to Shane Steichen

925
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: have been like, this guy's got something. So, you know,

926
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't totally discount that either. But I do think when

927
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: you look at this tight end room, you can't keep

928
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: running it back with the same guys you got to

929
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: come up with you. You gotta find more production, however

930
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: you find it. Because what the Colts got out of

931
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: it last year in terms of the passing game, it

932
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 2: wasn't good enough.

933
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: And there was no secret they coveted the brock Bauers, right,

934
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they they looked at that guy as an

935
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: offensive piece. So I think I think a lot of

936
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: teams different if they were to get it, you know,

937
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: their hands their hands on him last year in the

938
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: draft that I think they probably would have went there. So, okay, guys,

939
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: we talked about Ryan Kelly, the importance of it. I'm

940
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: gonna go to a younger version of Brian Kelly will Fries,

941
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: a guy who's going to get paid something like this.

942
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: We saw the gruesome injury that took him down, but

943
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: the last two years playing some quality, quality football, and

944
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: I'd love to see him and love what he brings

945
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: to the offense and loves what he brings to the

946
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: locker room. Even nice young man, but another guy that's

947
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: going to get paid right there, and there's a lot

948
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: of there's a lot of dollar bills over the front

949
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: of that Colts offensive line. Is that somebody that they

950
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: go and say whatever it takes, we're going to resign

951
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: Will fries Well, I.

952
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 4: Mean there's the obvious factor that I think to some degree,

953
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 4: whatever he does.

954
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: It's going to be a little bit of a prove

955
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 3: it situation because teams are going to need to gauge

956
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 3: where he is coming off of the injury and just

957
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 3: you know, exactly if he is full strength to start.

958
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 4: The year where he is.

959
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: So this is a situation in which I think there's

960
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 3: a lot of variance. I think maybe in versus where

961
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 3: he was prior to that versus what it.

962
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 4: Might command now.

963
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 3: And I can tell you, like you know, coaches have

964
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: had some you know, time and different things where like

965
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: you know, they don't say I have to be in

966
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 3: the building. Tony Soprano has been in the build like

967
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: I can. I can assure you that as these conversations

968
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 3: are happening and exploring these like Tony Sperano is going

969
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: to make a case for these guys and the roles

970
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: that they're going to play. And I think he is

971
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: going to be pretty uh a pretty heavily weighted way

972
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,959
Speaker 3: voice in terms of these evaluations and what he sees

973
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: with that group.

974
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's an intriguing one. I would like to

975
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: find a way to get Will back for sure.

976
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be interesting what is market is

977
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: going to be because you know, coming off an injury

978
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: where you know, the the Colts know better than any

979
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: other team what his timetable is going to be. He's

980
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: been in the building, he's been working his butt off here.

981
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 2: Could that lead to yeah, maybe stick around here.

982
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: The whole time discount? Maybe?

983
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: Maybe? But I mean I wouldn't begrudge a guy if

984
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: he didn't, like you know, yeah, I think that. Yeah,

985
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: But I do think that there have been cases where

986
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: guys have been coming off significant injuries and they hit

987
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: the market and you're like, Okay, let's see how this goes.

988
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, I think about when

989
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: I Carver the Bears. You know, Ellen Robinson had a

990
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: little more consistent production prior, but he tore his ACL

991
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen. Bear started to do a big deal

992
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: that off season, like nothing happened, and if you're a

993
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: good player, you still can get paid nice year, right,

994
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: And Will Fryes had a really good year. Yeah, for sure,

995
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: he got hurt. So that's gonna be that That one

996
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: is going to be very interesting. I also selfish. You

997
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: would love to have Will back, right. I think he's

998
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: a great football player. He's physical, he's a punisher in there.

999
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: He's a tone center gets bigger every time I see him,

1000
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: we're standing next to him. I'm not kidding you. He's

1001
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: that guy. He's like, every time I'm standing next to Wolfries,

1002
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, how did you get bigger? You got wider,

1003
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: you got taller. I don't know, your fingers got longer,

1004
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: something I know.

1005
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 3: But then it's also it's so funny because he's so

1006
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 3: massive and imposing, but then he's just like kind of

1007
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 3: like gentle.

1008
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 4: Creature, Like he's just like, well, yeah, like he's just

1009
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 4: like he's very level. He's like, you know, just he's

1010
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 4: just cool. Like it's just he's just he's great.

1011
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: All right, guys, now buckle up for this one. Here

1012
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: we go in house free agents, Sam Ellinger, Joseph Flacco.

1013
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: What do we do with the quarterback situation? The reason

1014
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm bringing this up is we heard general manager Chris

1015
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: Ballard talked about competition, competition, competition, not just in the

1016
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: quarterback room, all across the field on this roster, but

1017
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: that includes the quarterback position. Guys, let me start with you,

1018
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: j J. Where do you think we're at with the

1019
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: situation with this quarterback room right now? Because on contract only,

1020
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: we have one quarterback for the for the Indianapolis Colts

1021
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: right now, and that is Anthony Richardson. He's under contract.

1022
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 2: I think you probably are going to see a different

1023
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: backup come in. Based on what Chris Ballard said, someone

1024
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: who you know, Joe Flacco, came in to Hey, if

1025
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: we need him to play for Anthony, he can play.

1026
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: From the sounds of it, the Colts are going to

1027
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: bring in someone who can push Anthony and compete with Anthony.

1028
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: I'm not sure either of those guys. We'll give you

1029
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: a name, JJ, come on, give you a name. I'm

1030
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: not giving you a name, give me a name. Not

1031
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: giving not yet, not yet.

1032
00:44:59,120 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: Not yet.

1033
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: I think, though, if you can read between the lines

1034
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: and you look at who's available in free agency, it

1035
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: won't take you very long to circle a player who's

1036
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 2: like yep, that makes a lot of sense.

1037
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: Might be that.

1038
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: Sam's gonna be interesting, though. I think he'd like to

1039
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: have him back, but I would now, I don't think

1040
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: anyone in this building would begrudge Sam if he signed

1041
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: with the team to be their back. Sure, that's what

1042
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: I was probably looking at a third string again here.

1043
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: But he's a guy who I think he might have

1044
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: some fans around the league.

1045
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, I think both guys will

1046
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 3: have interest from other teams across the league.

1047
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you will see.

1048
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: And on Flacco, he can still play good football, man,

1049
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: I don't playing somewhere right. Whether you're seeing Joe throw

1050
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: some passes in twenty twenty five, is a forty absolutely.

1051
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: As a forty year old is correct, I'll forget. Who

1052
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 1: knows what happens with another forty year old, isn't. Aaron

1053
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: Rodgers is going to be on the market soon. So

1054
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: that a couple of forty year old quarterbacks looking. I'm

1055
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: just saying, if they.

1056
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: Move away from whatever like that so well, I guess

1057
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 3: depends on who they were, which struts, which.

1058
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: Direction they go a lot of directions. We're gonna be

1059
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: following direction season obviously it starts. I want to thank

1060
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: everyone that's watching on the all our YouTube viewers as

1061
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: well as the Colts Audio Network listening in Lara Overton,

1062
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: JJ Sankovitz, I'm Jeffrey Gorman. We're bringing you through the

1063
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: in house free agents and of course lou Anrumo getting

1064
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,959
Speaker 1: up close and personal and meeting the defensive coordinator. Finally, guys,

1065
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna kind of end with this a couple of things.

1066
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk playoffs, but I want to talk Berlin Man,

1067
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 1: I start with you. Berlin was announced last week another

1068
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: German game. Yeah, we've had one year in Frankfurt, then

1069
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: a year no travel, and then twenty twenty five the

1070
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: Colts will be playing an unnamed opponent in Berlin as

1071
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: the home team. Lara, your thoughts on that.

1072
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 4: Cool to have, like, finally a home opportunity.

1073
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: Obviously, the Colts played in London and played in Frankfurt

1074
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 3: as the visiting team, so now you get an opportunity

1075
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 3: to put your staff on on that market. And obviously,

1076
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 3: like in Berlin, there's so much history you know there,

1077
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Speaker 3: especially like with the venue and all of those things.

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Speaker 3: So and I, I mean, you know, we've heard a

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Speaker 3: lot from a lot of international fans, their excitement. I

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00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: was overwhelmed when we went to Frankfurt at the number

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Speaker 3: of Colts fans and we encountered and who showed up.

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Speaker 4: So it's great to see that.

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00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: When you saw there is this opportunity to build upon

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00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: some of that momentum from two years ago the Colts

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00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 3: so quickly going back, you know, and then also to

1086
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: be able to be the home team, to capitalize on

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00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: that opportunity to continue to grow and expand that fan.

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00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 4: Base that is already there. It's already well established.

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Speaker 3: Now you're just going to continue to build upon it.

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Speaker 3: And I also I know that it's a lot of

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Speaker 3: travel right like in the middle of the season. There

1092
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: are so many factors at play. I genuinely think the

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00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: players have enjoyed the experience, those who have gotten the

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Speaker 3: opportunity to do it. When you look back to Frankfurt

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Speaker 3: and then I think that Berlin is going to be,

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Speaker 3: you know, just another one of those opportunities for them,

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Speaker 3: because it's one of those where I don't know that

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Speaker 3: you ever take it for granted when you know, Sunday

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Speaker 3: in and Sunday out, you're going to different stadiums, and that's.

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Speaker 4: What you're doing. You're living your childhood dream.

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Speaker 3: But I do think it's different when you go and

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Speaker 3: you drop yourself into a place thousands of miles away

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00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: and it's all completely new, and it just almost is

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Speaker 3: like rejuvenating. I think to just see that excitement from

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00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: a you know, totally different side of the world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited for it. I mean talked to Born

1107
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: Werner last week for a podcast on Instant Reaction and

1108
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: what he said about Berlin being kind of this like

1109
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: multicultural city. Like I know, it's got a big like

1110
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: art scene. I'm not a big art guy, but like,

1111
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: you know, I can I guess I can get into it.

1112
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 2: Although when I went to Florence on my honeymoon, I've

1113
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: literally fell asleep in the Hall of David. So I

1114
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe it might be lost on really how

1115
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 2: about that? Yeah, it was jet lagged, it was really hot.

1116
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: There was just all his background noise.

1117
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 4: What did Betsy do?

1118
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 2: Punched me in the ribs?

1119
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 4: Wake you up?

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Speaker 2: I had a couple of glasses, a wi.

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Speaker 3: All.

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00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: That just kind of yeah, So the art part of

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00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: it might be lost on.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's gonna be and I'm obviously, Uh, there's ticket

1125
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: packages available. Colts dot Com will have the information if

1126
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: you want to go watch your Colt season ticket holders

1127
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: are going to get a chance to go over there

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Speaker 1: as well. And uh, like I said, a couple of

1129
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: big parties pregame that'll you'll be invited to if you

1130
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: go over there anyway, Just be patient. More information will

1131
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: be coming about the Colts playing and who will be

1132
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: playing in Berlin, Germany. Colts dot com has all the

1133
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: latest guys playoff football. I just need some winners right now.

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00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with you. Let's start at three o'clock.

1135
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Jade and Daniels taking on Jalen Hurts

1136
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: and the Eagles with say, Coon Barkley, who do you

1137
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: like coming out of the NFC Championship?

1138
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 3: How do you pick against Washington right now? I know,

1139
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: I I just it's such a fun story.

1140
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: Taking the rookie.

1141
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm going through.

1142
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Philly.

1143
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: Are you gonna take the veterans?

1144
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: I like, I love what Jane Daniels has done. Man,

1145
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: it's been fun. But like the run, GI, gimme Vic

1146
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: Fangio at home dial something.

1147
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to some of those NSE are like soul

1148
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 3: destroyers for defense.

1149
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: I think that's a game where if if Washington is

1150
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: not able to get out to a really quick start

1151
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: and Philly's able to kind of twist the screws defensively

1152
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: on Jane Daniels. I think it might be not a

1153
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 2: long night for a long afternoon for Washington, but maybe

1154
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: it's like twenty four to thirteen, just something where it's

1155
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: like it's not the highest scoring game, but Philly's got

1156
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 2: control of it for most of them.

1157
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 3: One thing I like about Washington is like, obviously we

1158
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 3: talked about, you know, the immediate turnaround from them, but

1159
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: then I also look to like it's a team that

1160
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 3: made an investment in bringing some outside guys in and

1161
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: you know, focused on getting the right guys folks on

1162
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 3: a guy like Bobby Wagner, a guy like Austin Eckler, Like,

1163
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Speaker 3: I mean, there are more those.

1164
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Speaker 2: On the offensive line. You know, they went outside, a

1165
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 2: bunch of vets like Nick Aliaghretty, and all of a

1166
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 2: sudden their line turns into a good unit.

1167
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1168
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: So I just that's kind of one of the factors

1169
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 3: there that it's like, oh, like you know, when you

1170
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 3: do that, when you have you know, an approach and

1171
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: a system strategy not.

1172
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: About spending the most money, it's about spending it right.

1173
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Tip the hat to the Washington and look at.

1174
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: Look at the Eagles too, where their best offseason free

1175
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 2: agent signing was Zach Bond and they paid like a

1176
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: million bucks. Two guys.

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00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 4: What a guy?

1178
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? I know, wow, Yeah, that thing did work out.

1179
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: That's great.

1180
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: Okay, the showdown. Let's go to it. Buffalo on the

1181
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: road taking the Chiefs. In case it's a six thirty kickoff.

1182
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be cold, it'll be snowy. Who do you like?

1183
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: You like Josh Allen? You like Patrick Mahomes?

1184
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 4: Toss me through the table top right now? The Bills?

1185
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, all right, I'll be contralling here. I

1186
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 2: want trust me, I want the Bills. The team that

1187
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 2: right now is playing the best football of any team

1188
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 2: left in the playoffs is the Kansas City Chiefs.

1189
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough, not gonna they are they are, They.

1190
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: Are peaking at the right time. Travis Kelcey like that

1191
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: was a slam dunk that he was gonna go for

1192
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: one hundred against the Texans.

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Speaker 1: Keep him on the shelf for seven exact weeks or

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00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: sixteen weeks, one good game and then all of a

1195
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: sudden playoffs. He's always ready.

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Speaker 2: For the whole Seriously, of the four teams that are playing,

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00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 2: to me, the Chiefs are playing the best football on

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Speaker 2: both sides of the ball of all four of those teams.

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Speaker 2: So we got a rematch of the Super Ball from

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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, Chiefs and Eagles. I think

1201
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 2: that's the one America wants the least, Is that right?

1202
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1203
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: I think I think most football fans would love to

1204
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: see Bills and Commanders.

1205
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: But Chiefs got a lot out there.

1206
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 2: Okay, they're pretty they're pretty popular. She got a good

1207
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: fu like me, would rather see Bills.

1208
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: Oh that would be fun.

1209
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 4: M v P, m v P, m v P.

1210
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes going against a rookie quarterback. That'd be kind

1211
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: of cool seeing that up there, and.

1212
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: A weird color scape. Super Bowl. You'd have two teams

1213
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: that's very similar.

1214
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true.

1215
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: Right, Oh yeah, yeah, once ketchup and mustard and yeah,

1216
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: and then the other's a little bit more of a maroo.

1217
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 2: Maybe a Chipotle ketchup and mustard.

1218
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: There you go, Hey, more Chipotle next week. Right here

1219
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: on the official Colts podcast listen, Colts dot Com has

1220
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: got you covered with the latest, especially from these two.

1221
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna be sitting down with lou Anarumo very shortly.

1222
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Speaker 1: I don't know whether it's today, it could be tomorrow,

1223
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: but it will be available on those out yeah on

1224
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: social media as well as Colts dot com. You will

1225
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: have a chance to get to meet the Colt's new

1226
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. That is the biggest storyline going right now.

1227
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: Colts are filling some positions and obviously gonna get you

1228
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Speaker 1: ready for the upcoming draft as well. Colts dot com

1229
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 1: has you covered. A big thank you behind the camera

1230
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: today Kevin Connors for doing this. Learra over to Latte

1231
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: Larra in the house today, JJ Stankobitz appreciate you guys

1232
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: sitting down and talking about it. But we'll have more

1233
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: answers next week because you know what, lou Anarumo will

1234
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: be in the building right now. We'll have some du

1235
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: talks on who's gonna be playing in the Super Bowl,

1236
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 1: maybe some more Berlin stuff, maybe some new free agent stuff.

1237
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: So the point is we're here all off season for you.

1238
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere for JJ and Learra. I'm Jeffrey Gorman.

1239
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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week.