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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to Indianapolis. Mark Van damerin John

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Speaker 1: Harris will be with us as we broadcast from the

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Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine, Day two for us here and an

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Speaker 1: exciting day bench press activity going on behind our broadcast area.

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Speaker 1: So we heard a lot of huffing and puffing and

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Speaker 1: numbers being called out. It's actually pretty compelling stuff to watch.

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Speaker 1: Some of you might have caught some of that on

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Speaker 1: NFL Network. Later on in the show, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: John McClain from the Houston Chronicle all his thoughts on

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Speaker 1: what Bill O'Brien and Brian Gaine have had to say

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of days. Mike Keith, voice of

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, his thoughts on not just the Titans,

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Speaker 1: but the Colts, the AFC South in general, because this

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Speaker 1: was the best division in football last year and we

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Speaker 1: want to talk about how it might be in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Of Course, some other things we're gonna cover. Brian Gaine,

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Speaker 1: he was up at the podium today. I think the

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Speaker 1: biggest takeaway was Aaron Colvin, how they feel about him,

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Speaker 1: They're expecting a much better season. It didn't go so

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Speaker 1: he came back from the injury and he wasn't playing

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Speaker 1: he was a healthy scratch. But they expect bigger things

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Speaker 1: from him in twenty nineteen. But we like to get

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Speaker 1: into it how the combine goes for a guy like

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Speaker 1: Brian Gaine, how he goes about his business. So let's

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Speaker 1: hear from the general manager of your tech sends Brian,

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Speaker 1: great to have you with us. So year two for

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Speaker 1: you as a GM, how has that changed versus last

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Speaker 1: year at all? It's exciting, Mark, It's really exciting because

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Speaker 1: they have the full year and in place with our

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Speaker 1: current scouting staff, obviously, the relationships with the coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: to putting a full year plan in place, not having

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Speaker 1: been here just in January and playing catchup, but having

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Speaker 1: a full season, the impact that the ability to evaluate

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Speaker 1: our own roster and then to externally look externally, look

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Speaker 1: at both free agency and the draft and try to

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Speaker 1: put all those pieces in place. Having a full year

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Speaker 1: under your belt certainly as an advantageous situation for me.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine before you became the GM. You thought

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Speaker 1: about being a chimp for a long time once you

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Speaker 1: got into the GM role. I'm sure there'll reply you

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Speaker 1: some things that you didn't even think, Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: I have to do that. Oh I didn't even think

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Speaker 1: about doing that. Was there one thing that you went

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Speaker 1: through the first year is that GM went man. I

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Speaker 1: didn't even see that comment. Was there something that not

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Speaker 1: me shocked you, surprise you, but you were like, WHOA,

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Speaker 1: I didn't really know that I needed to do that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Number one, just extremely thankful and appreciative and humble that

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Speaker 1: the McNair family gave me the opportunity to be the

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Speaker 1: general manager of the Texans. You know. The second thing

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Speaker 1: is I've had great mentors in my career from coach

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Speaker 1: and I learned a ton from under them and studying

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Speaker 1: them and working with them and taking direction and trying

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Speaker 1: to learn as much as I could before I was

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Speaker 1: ever put into this position. I think at the end

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Speaker 1: experience and to a degree, your instincts. You know. The

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Speaker 1: other part two is you got to have a quality staff.

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Speaker 1: You got to have people that you can trust and

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Speaker 1: I think when you have your own team in place

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Speaker 1: to be more delegation. And the other part is just

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Speaker 1: the all encompassing football operation. It's not just about picking players.

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Speaker 1: It's about putting the apparatus in place and the structure

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Speaker 1: both on and off the field. And that takes a

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Speaker 1: lot of time. It takes a lot of relationships. You

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Speaker 1: got to have good people working for you and working

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Speaker 1: What are you looking at? What kinds of things are

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Speaker 1: you observing? Because you get a lot of data on

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Speaker 1: whatever we can glean from the athletic movements as it

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Speaker 1: the fall Brian, the interview aspect of it. People will

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Speaker 1: we're prepared to vet out any potential character that we

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Speaker 1: the business of football doesn't always let you keep those guys.

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Speaker 1: How tough have you found that as being the general

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Speaker 1: the business of football is important in this as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a critical part and Chris Wilson, our VP of

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Speaker 1: in our front office. And then equally our scouting program,

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Speaker 1: our evaluation program, our system, our scouting system, our scouting methodology.

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Speaker 1: Wis constant communication between the two in terms of evaluating

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Speaker 1: the long term. So that's the delicate balance between the two.

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Speaker 1: how you value draft picks, how you value free agency,

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Speaker 1: and Chris Olson are a VP of Football Administrations and

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Speaker 1: a technical part of that. Brian, I know that doctors

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Speaker 1: who might have some durability concerns. You know, the guys

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Speaker 1: you're getting Bryant. This draft class, at particular twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk about the defensive line.

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Speaker 1: in this draft, is there anyone in particular that stands

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Speaker 1: the draft this year as it relates to playing four

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Speaker 1: terms of edged players. We think that there's some volume

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Speaker 1: lot of great opportunities for us to get what we

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Speaker 1: think is four players in the top eighty six selections.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get four at bats here before the third

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Speaker 1: round ends, and that excites us. So we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: two and a second obviously a very good player at

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Speaker 1: twenty three and at pick eighty six, We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a great chance here to upgrade the roster four impactful players,

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Speaker 1: and that excites us as a Scotic staff. Right, are

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Speaker 1: a lot of draft day trades, not necessarily pre arranged,

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Speaker 1: but the hypotheticals are maybe lay something out just in

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Speaker 1: to be a lot of different ways you can approach this.

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Speaker 1: them because they were fantastically talented, but that style, I mean,

431
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Speaker 1: they'd have gotten a penalty almost every other play for something.

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00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 1: But in the playoffs, it's sort of back to that

433
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Speaker 1: old way. That's that's what we've seen Mike. You mentioned

434
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Speaker 1: a little while ago our experience with Mike Vrabel, Nashville

435
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Speaker 1: gets gets him for a year. What's been a thought

436
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Speaker 1: on Mike and how he's done with this team. I've

437
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 1: never been around a first year coach in any sport

438
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: that was as prepared as Mike Vrabel was, and that

439
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 1: shocked me because most of them, even really good ones,

440
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 1: have moments that you're like, m what was that again?

441
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 1: You know, he knew exactly what he wanted to do.

442
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 1: He had plan for everything, never lost because of a

443
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 1: lack of preparation, never lost because of a moment of confusion.

444
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,679
Speaker 1: Had the locker room. The guys really like him, and

445
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Speaker 1: I think his message to upfront was it was really important.

446
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: He walked in and he told guys, he said, listen,

447
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: he says, when we're in the building, we're all pals,

448
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 1: we're all grown men. This is pro football, this is

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Speaker 1: what we do. Don't have to worry about where you sit.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna play mine and I'm paraphrasing it, We're

451
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,439
Speaker 1: not gonna play mind games with you to try to

452
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Speaker 1: motivate you in certain ways. But we're on the practice field.

453
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Speaker 1: Nobody's your friend because you want to be coached hard,

454
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Speaker 1: because if you're coached hard, you'll be prepared. We'll all

455
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Speaker 1: win games, and guess what, you'll play longer and you'll

456
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: make more money. And if you care, then that's what

457
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: this is about. And so the difference was stark. I mean,

458
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: there was nobody who was safe on the practice this field,

459
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 1: and you get on the quarterback, Hey about throwing it

460
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: to the guy who's open, you know, Derrick Henry, how

461
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: about you know, let's score a touchdown to be great.

462
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: I mean, he had a little quip for everybody, and

463
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: guys took it well because he did exactly what he said.

464
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Speaker 1: And I think in anything, if a coach is consistent,

465
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: then that's all you ask for. You know what you're getting.

466
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: He cared about dudes and their families and their kids

467
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Speaker 1: and all of this, but on the field, it was

468
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: all about ball. And it was really really impressive to

469
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: watching the fact that he's kept ninety percent of the

470
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: staff for a year two I think shows a lot

471
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: about the staff he picked because he made it clear

472
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Speaker 1: because I'm not picking pals because I don't have any pals.

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Speaker 1: I'm not interested in. This certainly has not changed, No,

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Speaker 1: I mean you guys, you know, I mean, you know him.

475
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: He's crusty. Um. You know, doing his radio a TV

476
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 1: show could be a challenge more after wins than after losses,

477
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Speaker 1: you know, because he's like, oh, you're making it sound

478
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: like we're you know, yeah, And that's okay. I mean,

479
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: I told him finally, I told him because why do

480
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: you always ask me about the quarterback? I go, because

481
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: you have to ask the coach about the quarterback's quarterbacks

482
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: kind of big deal coach, if he if he left

483
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: the game with an injury, I've got to ask you.

484
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: I said, that's what the fans want to But that's okay,

485
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, But but I like, I like knowing what

486
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get with the head coach. And it was

487
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: really it was my second I'd say at twenty one years.

488
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: It was top two or top three in terms of

489
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Speaker 1: fun to watch this guy do it and to interact

490
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Speaker 1: with him in this way. Mike, Nashville is such a

491
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Speaker 1: popular road trip for the traveling Texans when they can

492
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Speaker 1: get tickets to the Texans Titans game. What about Nashville

493
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Speaker 1: as a city since you've been working with the Titans,

494
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: how it's evolved. It's really exploded. Well, I go, I

495
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Speaker 1: go back even further because I grew up just outside

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Speaker 1: of Nashville, and when I got my driver's license, my

497
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Speaker 1: dad told me, he goes, whatever you do, don't go

498
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Speaker 1: down on Broadway. First Avenue, second Avenue, third Avenue. I

499
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 1: mean it was rough, rough rough, I mean like nasty

500
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: rough um And in less than two much they're going

501
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: to host the Draft in exactly that spot. And so

502
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: for a guy who's a local to see it come

503
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: that far, it's like the coolest thing ever. I mean,

504
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 1: it's a it's a beautiful thing to think not just

505
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: the country, but the global community is going to be

506
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: the NFL drafts the second biggest event that the league holds,

507
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Speaker 1: and it is gonna be massive. And to think about

508
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: where we were and when we first started having national

509
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: people come for Titans games in the late nineties, people

510
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: would say things like, you know, this is uh, this

511
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: is actually a nice time. And translation, you guys actually

512
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: have like roads and schools and and they're you know,

513
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: because they expected they thought they were going to be

514
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Speaker 1: seeing the clamp its. Yeah they Granny and everybody. But

515
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: when they saw he haw right and and that's what

516
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: they thought. It was, and we live in Texas, so

517
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: we're familiar with this. Well, you understand what I'm saying

518
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Speaker 1: is that there's a perception and Nashville still has the

519
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: Grand Ol operation, and it still has the Honky Tonks,

520
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: and it's still I mean, there's still a lot of

521
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: fun things that you could do, but it's a lot

522
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: more cosmopolitan than it ever was before and people coming

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Speaker 1: from other parts of the country. When Nissan came in

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Speaker 1: and Bridgestone came in and put their North American headquarters

525
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 1: in that area, Uh, it's it's really transformed it. So

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Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun. Who's the most authentic

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Speaker 1: celebrity Titans fan, like they're a real fan and they're

528
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: a country music celebrity or or a sell other celebrity

529
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Speaker 1: could be Tim mcgrawl. Oh yeah, Tim McGraw. Seriously, his wife,

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Speaker 1: Faith Hill might be even more serious. She at one point,

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Speaker 1: before their kids got older, she had a box. And

532
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: part of the reason she had the boxes she wanted

533
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Speaker 1: to be in a place where she could watch the

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Speaker 1: game without being Faith Hill, right, she could just be

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Speaker 1: Faith Tim's wife watching the ball game. She wanted to

536
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Speaker 1: be a normal person because she's a sports fan. He's

537
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Speaker 1: for Stard Mississippi. I think she was an athlete growing up,

538
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Speaker 1: and I mean she was into it. Then their kids

539
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 1: got older and she was she was really hardcore. I thought,

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Speaker 1: you're going to ask me who the most authentic country

541
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Speaker 1: music person was, period, and I have a good answer

542
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Speaker 1: for that is that Luke Bryan. Luke Bryan maybe as

543
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: nice a human being, true nice person as you'll ever

544
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Speaker 1: meet anywhere. He has just seen him at the rodeo.

545
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: He is a special guy. The stories about what he's

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Speaker 1: done for his extended family and what he's done for

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Speaker 1: people in the community. I mean, he is the real

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Speaker 1: deal for joining. Yeah, it's fun. Thanks for having on.

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Speaker 1: That's Mike Keith, voice of the Tennessee Titans. Coming up,

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Speaker 1: John McClain, what does he think about the Texans offseason?

551
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Speaker 1: The free agents, who's going where, who's coming back? He's

552
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: got his opinions. You know you want to hear them.

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Speaker 1: And that is next on Texans Radio. From the scouting

554
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: Combine in Indianapolis, Mark vandermir and John Harris on Radio Row,

555
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Speaker 1: joined by the General John McClay for the Houston Chronicle.

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Speaker 1: He's been busy. He's here with us now. We thank

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Speaker 1: you for taking some time. General. What was your primary

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Speaker 1: takeaway from anything Bill O'Brien and Brian Gaine had to

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Speaker 1: say this week. I wrote that I expect Kevin Johnson

560
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: to be released, and there's a good chance Kareem Jackson

561
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Speaker 1: will sign somewhere else unless Bruce Arians and Todd Balls,

562
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: who coached Tyron Matthew at Arizona and love him and

563
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: need his safety in Tampa, unless they pay him enough money.

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Speaker 1: Now the Bucks have SAP cap problems, the Texans do not,

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Speaker 1: and I know they're not going to get in the

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Speaker 1: bidding war over one of their players, and so I

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Speaker 1: believe Matthew will resign, and I think corners Brian Gaine

568
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: talked about receivers are getting bigger, taller, and you got

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Speaker 1: to be able to keep up with him, and I

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00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: think size is important to him. Speed is always important.

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Speaker 1: But they've got an upgrade death position. You know Aaron

572
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: Colvin will be back playing a slot, but in Kareem's

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Speaker 1: really a safety. You don't need four safeties and they've

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Speaker 1: got four if they race signed Matthew. That's why I

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00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: think Kareem will go somewhere else because of his versatility

576
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: and he's thirty one, but he's gonna be thirty one,

577
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Speaker 1: but he's coming off his best season, all right, A

578
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: lot of things he just threw out there. And before

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Speaker 1: we get to the next question, I just got to

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Speaker 1: clear this up because I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: have felt the way I felt. What business does Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay have having cap problems? I mean, if anybody shouldn't

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00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: have cap problems, it should be Tampa Bay. If anything

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00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: constructive should have been accomplished, it should have been that

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Speaker 1: that you have space to do things. Well, you ever

586
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: been down Maybury Street, Dale Maybury You can lose a

587
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: lot of money that. Oh way, we're talking sorry, yes, yeah, yeah,

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00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: we're talking about football stuff. Yeah, I don't know. I

589
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: don't know. Jerald mccoi. I mean, they're bringing Jerald McCoy back,

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00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: Jameis winstdon't I mean, but oh my gosh, I don't know. Well,

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Speaker 1: I just talked to one of their guys, and they

592
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: do have cap issues, all right, and they do want

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Speaker 1: to veterans safety, but they just can't afford to pay

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Speaker 1: a lot of money on like they have on some

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00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: players in the past. You would think a team that's

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00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: been bad so often would do like Jacksonville did and

597
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: just In Cleveland and the Jets just stockpiled cap dollars.

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Speaker 1: How poorly are you run if you're a bad team

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Speaker 1: and you got a cap problems. One thing you said, though, John,

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Speaker 1: about you expect that Matthew could sign with Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: if they could clear some room. Could but you expect

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Speaker 1: him to resign with the Texans. But you also have

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Speaker 1: him hitting the market. If Tampa Bay is gonna be

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Speaker 1: any kind of player of all at all, that means

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Speaker 1: he hits the market. I don't know whether they'll resign

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Speaker 1: him by the deadline of March the thirteenth, but uh,

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Speaker 1: and I think he'll resign here. That don't know. Field

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Speaker 1: test the market though. You know, if I'm a free

609
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Speaker 1: agent less you knock me over with an offer, and

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of the money, I want to

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Speaker 1: check the market and see what goes on. And right now,

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Speaker 1: if they were to resign Matthew and Jackson, they got

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Speaker 1: Justin Reid and he's gonna start right And then Andrea Hall,

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Speaker 1: you know, what he did was miraculous last season, not

615
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Speaker 1: just to come back, but to make some big plays.

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Speaker 1: So this time last year we're talking about man. They

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Speaker 1: need to help at safety. They got Andre Hall and

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Speaker 1: Corey Moore and Curtis Drummond, and then I believe they

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Speaker 1: Brian Gane and Bill Bill O'Brien will do at corner

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Speaker 1: what they did this time last year with safety. John,

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Speaker 1: do you think with oh, I don't know, anywhere between

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Speaker 1: seventy five to eighty million dollars in cap room, how

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Speaker 1: many outside the building free agents come in. I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking like mid level or a I'm talking how many

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Speaker 1: i'll say high priced free agents. Do you think they'll

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Speaker 1: bring in? Well, John, that depends on what you call

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Speaker 1: hi price. They're not gonna pay Levion Bell to make

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Speaker 1: him the highest paid running back in history. He wants

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Speaker 1: to make more, and then Todd Gurley got forty five

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Speaker 1: million guaranteed. They're just not gonna do it. He had

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Speaker 1: problems in a corner, get problems offensive line. They need

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00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: an inside pass rusher and a third running back and

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00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: forth receiver, whether it's in free agency or the draft.

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00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: So they offered Nate Soldiers sixteen to a half million,

635
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: and he wanted to go to the Giants, but he

636
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: was a proven guy. Even though he turned thirty. A

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00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: lot of people say, man, they got to back up

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00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: the brinks truck to Trent Brown. It's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna he wants to be the highest paid tackle.

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Speaker 1: It's just not gonna happen. After one year of success

641
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: playing with a quarterback and got rid of the ball

642
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: faster and he ever has in his career. And so

643
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: Brian mentioned they want Seantrel Henderson to be the starter

644
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: right tackle. Okay, and but they need a new left tackle.

645
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's gonna be a first round pick. And

646
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: I still think they'll sign a veteran. I've been talking

647
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: to people that have offensive lineman Donovan Smith. He's not

648
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 1: going anywhere. They're trying to re signing or they'll franchise him.

649
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: I think they'll sign somebody. I think if they were

650
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: going to spend a whole lot of money, who would

651
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: it be on. I think it might be another position,

652
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: Like say, if there's an inside rusher, they need to

653
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: do like get lucky like Indie did with Autry last

654
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: year and find a guy who who was just on

655
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: the precipice and needed a new new zip code, different system,

656
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: and find a guy who can give them something inside

657
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: What I'm curious about if the first two pigs are

658
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: tackling a corner, could the third one in the second

659
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: round be a pass rusher from inside? Could it be

660
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: a running back as a receiver. I don't think so

661
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: because they're healthy, and I know it's big if you're

662
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: still a fourth receiver, if Fuller and QT stay healthy,

663
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: well that was gonna be. My question to you is

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Speaker 1: that if you do handle those two needs, if you

665
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: do find it outside the building free agent, whether it's

666
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: a I mean, I would imagine this trumper, I might

667
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: know that's really the loss of line demand. There's a

668
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: lot of demand and there's not as much supply, especially

669
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: as it pertains a free agents. But in a draft

670
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: it's a little different. But if they're able to do that,

671
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: if they're able to satisfy some of that, do they

672
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 1: look at it interior pass rusher? Because if if it is,

673
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: this is the year to do it. I will say this.

674
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: I think a guy that we forget about in all this,

675
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: and I watched him the other day against Philadelphia. It's

676
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins. Now, Carlos was not active for a lot

677
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: of the year, but he's going into third year and

678
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: I think he's on a situation where I'm gonna make

679
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: sure I say this right. It's it's Tom Pooper. Get off. Yes,

680
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: there you go. That's better than wat He's got to

681
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: be because there's a chance Covington and Blackson are gonna

682
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: sign somewhere else. And even though those guys play an

683
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: instrumental role in a great run defense, if they believe

684
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: Watkins was ready to step up and be that defensive

685
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: end where well readers a defensive end and done start

686
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: on the nose people call reader nose, but most of

687
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: the season he started outside. But when you go to

688
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: the passing situation, need an inside russher. So it could

689
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: be is a second round pick, it could be a

690
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: third round pick because this is such a deep draft.

691
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: But the one thing they don't need is another outside

692
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: russher right now, John, what's the vibe you get from

693
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: others in the industry, whether it be football operations or

694
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: even national media about the Houston Texans the way it

695
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: went down, of what the future might be in this division.

696
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: Everybody loves Watson. Everybody was skeptical because of the schedule.

697
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: People who were starting to believe in the Texans after

698
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: the way they came out and played against the Colts.

699
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: People are like, ah, we'll see next year, and I

700
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: think that's good. Like I was talking to a member

701
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: of the Colts yesterday, So, you guys are going to

702
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: be favored to win the division. There's a lot of

703
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: people probably pick you to go to the super Bowl

704
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: like they did two years ago. He said, well, we

705
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: don't want that role, you know, we'd we'd rather have

706
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: the role where you're we're nipping at somebody these seals

707
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: and said, well, you shouldn't have looked so good. So

708
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: I think that the Texans, most people probably pick them

709
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: to win a wild card in Indianapolis, to win a division,

710
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: depending on what they do in the offensive line. It's

711
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: such a good draft for left tackles at the area

712
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: where the Texans are drafting now, I have six knowing

713
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: in the first round because we talk about all these

714
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: pass rushers and what a great year it is, Well,

715
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: who's gonna stop them? It's the offensive tackles. And there's

716
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: some good inside rushers as well. But I can't imagine

717
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: that Texans would use the first round pick on a

718
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: defensive lineman when they have what and what they have

719
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: what Clowney reader. It's not a big a need as

720
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: it is. An offensive tackle. A god i'd love to

721
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: see him get is Andre Dillard from Washington State. Aaron

722
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: Wilson wants Greg a little from old mess. They're the

723
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: two best pure left tackles. They don't need a guy

724
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: can move inside. Martinez Ankins moving inside. I think you'll

725
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: play left guard. They need pure tackles. They basically need

726
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: football line by it doesn't matter. I mean, I don't care.

727
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: Drop the best offensive linement you got, whichever one you

728
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: can to help that offensive line, and then you can

729
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: figure it out at that point. But I'm with you, John,

730
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a huge Honre Dillard Fani's I'm on

731
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: tibe and on top of him for a few years,

732
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: so I love and would love. I told him at

733
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl that we gave up sixty two sacks

734
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: and he looked at me like I had three heads.

735
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he just couldn't believe. He couldn't believe it.

736
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: He's like really, And I was like, yeah, Um, we've

737
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: we've kind of gone this long without talking about Won Clowney, John,

738
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: what is your what is your sense on a the

739
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: franchise tag be long term deal. I have not changed

740
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: my opinions since August when I said that he will

741
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: not reach an agreement on a long term deal or

742
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: whenever mcindonald said, was that August or September? Whenever they

743
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: signed those deem early September. Agents say, okay, that's the barometer.

744
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: But because Jadevian is not a premier pass rusher like

745
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: Donald and my car, but he's great against the run

746
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: and he's good against the past, he's not gonna get

747
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: that much money, and so he'll get it. He'll have

748
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: to turn down an hundred million. So I think he'll

749
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: be franchised on Tuesday, and they will continue to negotiate

750
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: with buzz Cook. Most of the time, they don't even

751
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: get serious in contract negotiations teams and agents till they

752
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: get here. And that's kind of thing parameters late at

753
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: night and the bars and stuff, and then they go

754
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: home talk about it some more, and then it really

755
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: heats up the closer we get to free agency. But

756
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: I've seen some national media people go, I'm not gonna

757
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: say who this guy was, because I like him. He said,

758
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think Clowney'd be back. I think

759
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna let him walk, And I'm like, why would

760
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: you think that? What have you ever possibly seen? It

761
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: would make you think all of a sudden they became morons.

762
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna lack one of the best defensive players, their

763
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: second best defensive play, their second most disruptive defensive player,

764
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: just walk away. There's no way he will be back.

765
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: When he comes back and we see him, now that's different. Well,

766
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: I think the other question is would a team Not

767
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: that you would do the deal, but if your franchise said,

768
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: would a team give up a first RINDE draft choice

769
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: for you mean two number one? Well you don't have to,

770
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: though you can make him a agreement. You can do what.

771
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure a team would give up a one for Clowney,

772
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: but the Texans wouldn't take a one for him. You

773
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: know who out there that you know is going to

774
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: step in and be as disruptive as clown Nobody as

775
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: good as those guys are. Nick Bosa was hurt last year,

776
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: his brother's been hurt. He's going to be the first

777
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: overall big unless they go with Kyler Murray. And after

778
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: the way he weighed and measured his hand size and everything. Today,

779
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: everybody's like, Wow, they were expecting so much less. And

780
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: I think that Kyler Murray now is going to be

781
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: in a running for that top pig. And but you know,

782
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: Quinnon Williams one year starter? Would you take him over

783
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: a clowney? Would you take Bosa? A great talent? But

784
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, I just clown He's a proven product. Coming

785
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,479
Speaker 1: back that thing about him like he doesn't work hard?

786
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: You know, that thing goes back to me and it

787
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: just blows me away that how can you not be

788
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: a hard worker if you come back from microfracture surgery

789
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: and you come back from two other knee surgeries, Well

790
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: that proved that he could do it. Are you? Are

791
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: you comparing him to what? How many guys? How many

792
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: guys work out? You can't compare people to wat. It's

793
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: like comparing teams to the Patriots. You just can't compare

794
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: individuals to what. I mean. Yeah, he's the gold, gold,

795
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: platinum standard if you will. If they didn't think you

796
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: weren't hard enough, they wouldn't be trying to sign him

797
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: to a long term deal. That's a good point, John,

798
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: What about Jason Witten? I'm guessing ESPN's bags contract, right,

799
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's coming back to the venture minimum that.

800
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: That was the first reaction I had. Johnny and I

801
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: were having lunch. We saw it on the monitor, and

802
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: I said, boy, how happy is ESPN right now that

803
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 1: they don't have to deal with Witten and the growing pains,

804
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: any criticism. And he's thirty five years thirty's gonna be

805
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: thirty six or he is thirty six, which puts him

806
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: two years. Mind Antonio Gates. Isn't an amazing how guys

807
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: are in such good shape and take such great care

808
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: of themselves and the medical knowledge that they can play

809
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: it in age where ten years ago we were what

810
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: the tight ends are gonna play there in the late

811
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: thirties and quarterbacks gonna play in the forties. There's no

812
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: way great for winning. The media loves it in Dallas

813
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: because he's a great quote. But I just you know

814
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: what if they have to cut him, Oh, it'll be

815
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: too late to go back to ESPN. Yeah, certainly be

816
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: too late by that. I mean talk about when you're

817
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: talking about a guy who, let's see, he's fourth of

818
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: the all time receptions list. He's behind Larry Fitzgerald, who's

819
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: still playing. Look, he's not gonna catch Larry he's not

820
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: gonna He's one hundred and fifty behind Larry and this

821
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: is not gonna happen. This delays his Hall of Fame eligibility. Now, yeah,

822
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: that's why I was gonna say, what if? But what

823
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: if he doesn't? What if he gets cut? Well, then, uh,

824
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: that's a great question. We've never been in a situation.

825
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: He still if he gets cut, he was not on

826
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: the roster, so it'll be five years he can always

827
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, I've never seen that, but it's five

828
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: years after you retire or your cut, or you leave

829
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: the league, and he would be leaving the league. I

830
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: thought he was asking about his career chances. He could

831
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: be the sideline reporter for Andrea Kramer and Hannah Storm

832
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: on Amazon on the Thursday Night Passage or something. I'm

833
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: not sure. I don't know, but honestly, that was one

834
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: of the first things I thought about was Hall of Fame,

835
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: and I thought, I thought about John when does he

836
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: now become ultimate for the Hall of Fame? Man? That

837
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: pushes him now back? But that actually could help you, guys,

838
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: because you got you're starting to get backlogs at imagine

839
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: that they would sign him if they thought there was

840
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: even a chance he'd be cut because that would make

841
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: him look terrible. Yeah, and didn't make them look terrible too.

842
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine they're one hundred percent sure he's

843
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: gonna be who he was or enough of who he

844
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: was last year. Yeah. I mean, it's just crazy. They

845
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: drifted basket Bar in the second round hoping to replace him,

846
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: and that guy bombed out. So I hope they don't

847
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: go into the offseason thing and we don't need a

848
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: tight end you have, Well they might, they're the Cowboys.

849
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: It's just too much fun. John, What do you have

850
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: going out of the Houston Chronicle, Well, we have a

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Speaker 1: fourth monk draft up, and I think I have the

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Speaker 1: Texans taking in Georgia cornerback DeAndre Baker in the first

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Speaker 1: round and two tackles in the second round. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to do guys different every week based on systems,

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Speaker 1: and I can't remember the two that I put down,

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Speaker 1: but it wouldn't surprise me because tackles so deep. If

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Speaker 1: they took it, if there's a corner there they had

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Speaker 1: rated way ahead of a tackle, I think they'd take him,

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Speaker 1: and they say we can get better value in the

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Speaker 1: second Brian Gaine's not gonna trade up. He's not going

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Speaker 1: to sacrifice something to trade up. But I could see

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Speaker 1: him possibly trade down if there were three or four

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Speaker 1: tackle selections he liked, and that would be smart. You know,

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Speaker 1: he'd like to get another two. He'd obviously get more

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Speaker 1: than the four back And I've been doing five takeaways.

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Speaker 1: I did five with the game today and now I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do five in the NFL led by Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: and I'm doing Trevion Williams remain him for Sunday. Ed

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Speaker 1: Oliver is going to be done by Aaron I'm doing

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. So we got all kinds of stuff in

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Speaker 1: the Chronicle, Texas Sports Nation Euston Chronicle dot com. John

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Speaker 1: thanks a lot for joining us. Hey Mark, John, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. Enjoy the rescue. Stay always a pleasure. John,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for being on the show. Tomorrow

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Speaker 1: we will broadcast from here again. Greg co Sell from

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Speaker 1: NFL Films will be on the program. I'll be on

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Speaker 1: for a segment with the guys in the morning on

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Speaker 1: Mad Radio. Don't Forget about Texans three sixties Saturday nights

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Speaker 1: at eleven on EBC thirteen. Thanks for listening everyone, have

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Speaker 1: a great night and go Texans.