Speaker 1: Breaking news right now, and no, this is not a drill.
Speaker 1: Just moments ago, the Seattle Seahawks have agreed to terms
Speaker 1: with the Las Vegas Raiders on a blockbuster trade, sending
Speaker 1: their starting quarterback Gino Smith, a two time pro bowler,
Speaker 1: to Las Vegas in exchange for a twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: third round pick. We've got this covered from all angles
Speaker 1: right now. Welcome inside with the insiders alongside Ian Rappoport
Speaker 1: and Mike Girafolo. I am Tom Peliicero. This has all
Speaker 1: kinds of domino effects across the rest of the quarterback market.
Speaker 1: Let's dig into it right now. Ian, starting out with
Speaker 1: the fact that this trade came together. My understanding has
Speaker 1: been the Seahawks were in talks with Gino Smith about
Speaker 1: a new contract. They stood willing to give him a
Speaker 1: raise in twenty twenty five, give him a new deal,
Speaker 1: but they were not able to come to an agreement.
Speaker 1: So what do you know, His old coach Pete Carroll,
Speaker 1: who gave him the starting opportunity in Seattle, revived Gino
Speaker 1: Smith's career. Now those two reunite once again in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: That's right, a reunion.
Speaker 3: The Las Vegas Raiders have a quarterback. Gino Smith is
Speaker 3: now their quarterback and for the Las Vegas Raiders, we'll
Speaker 3: start with their side of it. Guys, it has been
Speaker 3: quite a winding road. Of course, we know they're one
Speaker 3: of the teams the team to try to trade for
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford. He eventually stayed with the Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker 3: They explored plenty of options, but it really seemed they
Speaker 3: just weren't set on anyone at the combine. The first
Speaker 3: conversation happened between the Raiders and the Seahawks. Hey, could
Speaker 3: this actually happened? Obviously they know each other, Pete Carroll
Speaker 3: with the Seahawks, the sides are friendly, everyone on the
Speaker 3: same page. Or could this happen and not really? Let's
Speaker 3: sort of check back, maybe stay in touch. Then contract
Speaker 3: talks really got no With Seattle. They re engaged yesterday.
Speaker 3: Had a meeting this morning between new general manager John
Speaker 3: Spytech Seahawks general manager John Snyder got together on a deal.
Speaker 3: It is Geno Smith headed to the Raiders, a third
Speaker 3: round pick going to Seattle and Mike Seattle now needs
Speaker 3: a quarterback. Lucky for them, it's before free agency. Every
Speaker 3: option is available besides the quarterbacks you're already spoken for.
Speaker 3: That would be surprised if they target Sam Donald among others.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sam Donald a possibility. Klint Kubiak up there. His
Speaker 4: quarterback last year was Derek Carr. We're still waiting to
Speaker 4: see what's going to happen in New Orleans with that situation.
Speaker 4: I know the Saint said they want them back, but
Speaker 4: they've got to come to some kind of financial agreement there. Yes,
Speaker 4: the contract negotiations with Gino Smith go back to last
Speaker 4: year when we reported that there were conversations or Geno
Speaker 4: Smith tried to have conversations about a contract last year
Speaker 4: and the Seahawks said not with two.
Speaker 2: Years left on your deal.
Speaker 4: He confirmed it to the media, did not seem very
Speaker 4: happy at the time that he didn't get an extension.
Speaker 4: So coming into this offseason, feeling like he proved it again,
Speaker 4: wanted an even bigger number this time around from the Seahawks.
Speaker 4: There was a gulf between the sides from our understanding
Speaker 4: here with regard to the financials on this one. So
Speaker 4: in the end, the Seahawks say, well, if we're gonna
Speaker 4: go and spend the money, let's get a pickback in return.
Speaker 2: So they're getting a third round pick back in return.
Speaker 4: And yeah, the Raiders had an extra third round pick
Speaker 4: because of that Devonte Adams trade when they traded Davonte
Speaker 4: to the Jets in the middle of last season, So
Speaker 4: that gave them the flexibility this new regime to still
Speaker 4: have a third round pick after making this trade with
Speaker 4: the Seattle Seahawks. So Pete Carroll gets his reunion with
Speaker 4: Gino Smith. We know he thinks highly of him, and
Speaker 4: we know that there are two. There's one of them,
Speaker 4: Dk Metcalf, the other one being Tyler Lockett, two wide
Speaker 4: receivers that Gino Smith threw to in Seattle while Pete
Speaker 4: Carroll was the coach. I'd say pretty sure at least
Speaker 4: one of them is going to land in Vegas, Tyler
Speaker 4: Lockett being the other one. He is a free agent.
Speaker 4: We'll see even both. Maybe a reunion of all three
Speaker 4: of them with their.
Speaker 2: Head coach, Pete Carroll. We'll see.
Speaker 1: So again, this is going to set off a lot
Speaker 1: of different dominoes here, but let's focus in first on
Speaker 1: the two teams involved. I'll start out with Seattle. You
Speaker 1: were asking yourself, probably right now, what is that as
Speaker 1: a Seahawks plan after going ten and seven, the only
Speaker 1: double digit win team that missed the playoffs last season.
Speaker 1: They have DK Metcalf, who is in the middle right
Speaker 1: now of a trade request and they are exploring trades
Speaker 1: for DK Metcalf. They released Tyler Lockett and now they're
Speaker 1: training their quarterback Gino Smith to Las Vegas for a
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five third round draft pick. Well, starting out
Speaker 1: with Gino here again, they were willing to give him
Speaker 1: a raise over the roughly twenty seven million dollars that
Speaker 1: he was doing in twenty twenty five. They offered him
Speaker 1: that they had conversations, but they had one conversation yesterday
Speaker 1: and which it became a parent From my understanding that
Speaker 1: Gino Smith was not happy with the state of things.
Speaker 1: He felt like he should be making a lot more money,
Speaker 1: and that opened the door to potentially then saying okay,
Speaker 1: I was like Matthew Stafford a few weeks ago, go
Speaker 1: out and see what else is out there for Gino Smith.
Speaker 1: They have not yet done a new deal in Las
Speaker 1: Vegas with Gino. You would anticipate that that is something
Speaker 1: that's coming before Seattle. Not only Ian, do they now
Speaker 1: have the flexibility to go out and sign another quarterback.
Speaker 1: They may well be able to sign another quarterback for
Speaker 1: the same amount or less than they stood willing to
Speaker 1: pay Gino Smith in twenty twenty five, while also picking
Speaker 1: up a third round draft pick that's going to help
Speaker 1: them build this thing the way that Mike McDonald envisions
Speaker 1: it looking as he heads into his second year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and my understanding of Seattle did make a good
Speaker 3: faith offer to Gino Smith from what I'm told around
Speaker 3: the Baker Mayfield area, so up into the thirties. For
Speaker 3: Gino it was met with a this is just not enough.
Speaker 3: And if you're an organization of a starting quarterback and
Speaker 3: you are just not on the same page with value
Speaker 3: and you can somehow, some way get an option that
Speaker 3: you considered to be the same or maybe even better,
Speaker 3: or if it ends up being Sam Donald, a lot
Speaker 3: hunger with plenty of potential, this is the time to
Speaker 3: do a trade and look for Seattle. It's a risk, right,
Speaker 3: you go into free agency knowing that you do not
Speaker 3: have a quarterback, and it's a risk, But there's not
Speaker 3: that many chairs available and there's not that many quarterbacks available.
Speaker 2: So if you're Seattle, you know.
Speaker 3: You got a pretty good chance at someone like Darnald,
Speaker 3: if you can outbid the Vikings, who have said publicly
Speaker 3: and probably that they want him back. This is an
Speaker 3: interesting situation for Seattle, but John Shaider, the general manager,
Speaker 3: one of the best to do it in the NFL,
Speaker 3: for sure, has a plan for how to make this happen.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Sorry if I look like I'm getting text from my
Speaker 4: friends saying what are you so confused about?
Speaker 5: I'm trying.
Speaker 4: We're told which picket is. I'm just trying to figure
Speaker 4: out if it makes sense. You guys, work on that.
Speaker 4: I texted you that there Gino Smith the yeah, please,
Speaker 4: what are you looking at me for?
Speaker 2: Le start figuring it out. I'm on in Utah.
Speaker 4: In here, yes, with Gino Smith here the old the
Speaker 4: quote from him after that game. You know they me off,
Speaker 4: but I didn't write back. It was a great story.
Speaker 4: It was a great It was a great job by
Speaker 4: him to restart his career here after being with the Giants,
Speaker 4: I believe with the Giants previously before him. You know,
Speaker 4: Gino had two stops in New York heads to Seattle.
Speaker 4: There now restarts in Vegas. This is a guy that
Speaker 4: has played with a lot of pride throughout his entire
Speaker 4: career and pride helped really restart things in Seattle. He
Speaker 4: kept those mental notes in his head of everything that
Speaker 4: people had said through him throughout his career. And you
Speaker 4: know that Pete Carroll is going to feed into that.
Speaker 4: He is going to make sure that Geno Smith knows
Speaker 4: that people are rating him off, probably once again, and
Speaker 4: motivate him to once again restart his career.
Speaker 2: They're working on getting more targets there.
Speaker 4: We talked about the possibility of adding some wide receivers,
Speaker 4: but you know, having brock Bauers there and what we
Speaker 4: saw from him and his rookie career, his rookie season,
Speaker 4: excuse me, not a bad start from Geno Smith right there.
Speaker 3: You know one thing I wanted to mention as you
Speaker 3: look at this new Raiders regime, Obviously they're getting a
Speaker 3: starting quarterback they have wanted one in his mid thirties.
Speaker 3: We'll see how long this ends up lasting. But to me,
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll is trying to set the culture here. Gino
Speaker 3: Smith has been in it. He is a leader. He
Speaker 3: is a guy that the other guys in the locker
Speaker 3: room considered to be one.
Speaker 2: Of those dudes. Right.
Speaker 3: He can go a long way in helping Max Krosby, who,
Speaker 3: by the way, just tweeted LFG which I'm not going
Speaker 3: to translate, but it means he's very excited he can
Speaker 3: help Max Krawsby kind of set this culture in Las
Speaker 3: Vegas and really be some of the translators through Pete Carroll.
Speaker 3: So so important when you have a new regime and
Speaker 3: a new coach.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a look at some of the
Speaker 1: other ramifications here. Again, the breaking news tonight is Gino
Speaker 1: Smith traded from the Seattle Seahawks to the Las Vegas
Speaker 1: Raiders in exchange for a twenty twenty five third round
Speaker 1: draft pick. This is significant in so many different ways. Again,
Speaker 1: we'll get to the fallout on the rest of the
Speaker 1: quarterback market as this continues to go on. We also
Speaker 1: know Las Vegas Raiders all of a sudden have so
Speaker 1: that Max Cross have been waiting for, which is a
Speaker 1: quarterback saying let's go with another word in there, at
Speaker 1: say sign that he's very excited one day after he
Speaker 1: signed that monster contract extension. Now the Raiders are hoping
Speaker 1: that they have found their quarterback. For more on this,
Speaker 1: let's bring in our Brian Baldinger as well. As Steve
Speaker 1: Weich into the conversation. Steve, I'll start out with you here.
Speaker 1: When you hear this news of this trade, what do
Speaker 1: you make of it? Knowing the dynamics of what the
Speaker 1: Raiders have been trying to accomplish in this offseas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tom, you guys are getting the real high notes
Speaker 2: right here. Look. I saw Raiders owner Mark Davis at
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: He told me we have got to get a quarterback,
Speaker 6: and real quick to go to that Max cross between
Speaker 6: LFG the guy helping them quarterback Tom help him find
Speaker 6: the quarterback Tom Brady. That was a big thing for
Speaker 6: him too, and Mark Davis said they were going to
Speaker 6: lean on Tom. So now, as Ian said, they've got
Speaker 6: a veteran quarterback hen here with the experience that can
Speaker 6: help them level up and change the culture, much like
Speaker 6: the Chargers did last year. Look look at how top
Speaker 6: that division is. They had to get a quarterback with
Speaker 6: some skins on the wall who's still got some time
Speaker 6: left in his career to get things turned around. Now,
Speaker 6: Chip Kelly, the new offensive coordinator, can start designing an
Speaker 6: offense that plays the Gino's strengths and just historically, what
Speaker 6: are the Raiders like to do.
Speaker 2: They like to throw the deep ball. We know Gino
Speaker 2: can throw the deep ball.
Speaker 6: So he checks some of the boxes organizationally, but more
Speaker 6: so culturally as Pete Carroll tries to turn it around.
Speaker 6: And then we'll get to the Seahawks ind of things
Speaker 6: a little bit later.
Speaker 7: Well, see if he goes from the NFC West to
Speaker 7: the AFC West here, and you know, when you look
Speaker 7: at Chip Kelly and when he came to Philadelphia the
Speaker 7: first time, it was everything that he did at Oregon.
Speaker 5: It was up tempo, it was spread.
Speaker 7: Well that's the offense that Gino Smith grew up in
Speaker 7: a West Virginia.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's exactly the same offense.
Speaker 7: So he understands tempo, he understands shotgun, he understands getting
Speaker 7: the ball out of his hands fast.
Speaker 5: So I think there's a matterag there.
Speaker 7: Just going back to when Gino got that job with Seattle.
Speaker 7: I remember there was a quarterback battle him and Drew
Speaker 7: Lock and Gino won that battle. And I remember talking
Speaker 7: to Gino at that time and he said, for the
Speaker 7: first time in his whole career, he felt like the
Speaker 7: organization had his back, and Pete Carroll has his back
Speaker 7: in this deal right here.
Speaker 5: So you got you got Pete, You've.
Speaker 7: Got Chip, you got Gino, and they've got a quarterback
Speaker 7: here that is lined up two for more yards this
Speaker 7: year with a you know, with a coordinator that's not
Speaker 7: even in the league anymore in Ryan Grubb than he
Speaker 7: had ever thrown in his career. So he's coming off healthy,
Speaker 7: a good year, a year where they won ten games.
Speaker 7: I think it's a good win here for the Raiders
Speaker 7: right now.
Speaker 1: And of course they also have another key player on
Speaker 1: the trade block, Steve dk Metcalf, who met with team
Speaker 1: officials a couple of days ago. The decision made that
Speaker 1: DK wanted to have a trade. The Seahawks said they
Speaker 1: are going to work at that. Minus staying is they've
Speaker 1: been in contact with a bunch of different teams here,
Speaker 1: so a chance not just to add a high draft
Speaker 1: pick for Gino, but perhaps another high pick or two.
Speaker 1: What does the Geno trade make you think about how
Speaker 1: the snow plays out with Dk?
Speaker 6: Well, this is intriguing right now because Tom, you know,
Speaker 6: they're not going to move dk Metcalf unless these are
Speaker 6: very worthy draft picks. I spoke to someone up there today.
Speaker 6: They don't want to get rid of DK Metcalf. He's
Speaker 6: only twenty seven years old. He was only eight yard
Speaker 6: shive from having his third consecutive one thousand yard season.
Speaker 2: And when every coordinator innervated for the interview.
Speaker 6: For the OC job this year, one of the first
Speaker 6: topics I was told that came up with every one
Speaker 6: of them is how are we going to get dk
Speaker 6: Metcalf involved in this offense? That said, this dynamic, maybe
Speaker 6: it is a reset for Seattle when they see that
Speaker 6: this division, this NFC West, could be open. Let's say
Speaker 6: they get into the Sam Darnold sweepstakes, they get him
Speaker 6: in here, they get him some other wide receivers, because
Speaker 6: Seattle's going to have to draft a wide receiver to
Speaker 6: go at Jackie Smith and Jigba, whether DK Metcalf is
Speaker 6: there or not, They've got to build up that area.
Speaker 6: So by stacking draft picks, and if they add more
Speaker 6: with DK Metcalf, this could be a reset of sorts.
Speaker 6: But at the same time, Tom, as you alluded to,
Speaker 6: this is a ten win team and people out there
Speaker 6: think they're much closer than a lot of other people do.
Speaker 6: Maybe they go ahead and get a veteran, you know,
Speaker 6: a veteran widere's even Amari Cooper or someone like that,
Speaker 6: if they get rid of DK Metcalf to add to
Speaker 6: a draft pick. But I think there's a lot of
Speaker 6: layers to this now that Gino Smith is no longer
Speaker 6: part of the equation.
Speaker 7: Baldy Steve, Let's be very clear about this. DK Metcalf
Speaker 7: is a straight dog. Yes, there's you could put him
Speaker 7: in every offense in this league and he would he
Speaker 7: would upgrade your pass game. I was amazed last year
Speaker 7: at games where they just ignored him and went away
Speaker 7: from him, like he is a nightmare for any corner
Speaker 7: if you're playing man coverage, like he's got you beat
Speaker 7: right off the bat, whether it's his release, whether it's
Speaker 7: jump ball skills, whether it's his route running, whether it's
Speaker 7: his hunger for the ball. Like, this guy is a
Speaker 7: straight dog. And so there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 7: teams that are interested. I mean, Seattle, I don't know
Speaker 7: what they're gonna do at this point. If he once out,
Speaker 7: there's gonna be a lot takers out there that would
Speaker 7: give up a lot to go and get him and
Speaker 7: insert him at the extra receiver in anybody's offense.
Speaker 1: Baldy Steve thank you very much. A lot more from
Speaker 1: you guys on free agency and other topics. As this
Speaker 1: show continues to roll on, once again breaking news, I
Speaker 1: will reiterate this is real. These Seahawks training their two
Speaker 1: time Pro Bowl quarterback Gino Smith to the Raiders for
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty five third round draft pick reunion. Of course,
Speaker 1: for Pete Carroll is in the background. They're wearing some
Speaker 1: sunglasses in his Seattle days. He was the guy who
Speaker 1: gave Gino Smith the opportunity to be a starter again,
Speaker 1: and now Gino set to rejoin his old coach in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, which, in turn, guys, is quite possibly the
Speaker 1: first proverbial domino in a quarterback market that everybody within
Speaker 1: the league was waiting on a few things. They're waiting
Speaker 1: to see how things are going to work out in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: whereas Ian told us a couple of days ago, here
Speaker 1: justin field seems like the most likely option, but there's
Speaker 1: nothing done there. It's Derek Carr, which Mike mentioned, they've
Speaker 1: been trying to figure out is there were revised content right.
Speaker 1: And then it is in Seattle where this really started
Speaker 1: to materialize and become real within the past twenty four
Speaker 1: to forty eight hours here Gino now headed to Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: We set off the top ian that Sam Darnold, from
Speaker 1: what I am told, is a minimum a leading candidate
Speaker 1: to be the next quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks. If
Speaker 1: that indeed is the case, that means the Vikings now
Speaker 1: potentially could pivot to Daniel Jones, but he might have
Speaker 1: options elsewhere where do we stand?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's go right there, because this is the
Speaker 3: biggest domino that we've seen in the quarterback world, even
Speaker 3: I would say even bigger than Matthew Stafford or somewhere
Speaker 3: in that realm, just because of what it means for
Speaker 3: so many other places.
Speaker 2: We'll start in Seattle, I would agree.
Speaker 3: It does feel to me feel like Sam Donald would
Speaker 3: be the first one target today if they could beat
Speaker 3: the Minnesota offer, which you know, if he's going to
Speaker 3: be their starting quarterback and they don't have someone like
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy they're waiting, maybe Seattle would come in over Minnesota.
Speaker 3: If that's where he wants to play, then surely that
Speaker 3: makes sense. And then the Vikings have Daniel Jones, who
Speaker 3: they really like, did a really nice job for them,
Speaker 3: but does he have other opportunities the Indianapolis Colts, who
Speaker 3: have Anthony Richardson, who want to bring in competition, They
Speaker 3: would make a lot of sense for Daniel Jones as well.
Speaker 3: And if he goes, if he wants to really come
Speaker 3: in and compete for a starting job and potentially have
Speaker 3: it long term, is Indianapolis a better place in Minnesota?
Speaker 3: Or does he want to go with Kevin O'Connell and
Speaker 3: this Minnesota Viking team that is so well coached and
Speaker 3: did such a good job with Donald last year. So
Speaker 3: that's sort of where we're at, Mike, is the different
Speaker 3: variables of like who would choose where based on how
Speaker 3: much playing time and whether they could start, and so
Speaker 3: much has to play out next week.
Speaker 4: Let's follow the bouncing ball and let's fill it in
Speaker 4: with some of the things that we have been talking
Speaker 4: about the last couple of days. If Sam Donald does
Speaker 4: wind up in Seattle as the next starting quarterback of
Speaker 4: the Seahawks, the fallback to which the Vikings started to
Speaker 4: work on last year is Daniel Jones, whom they brought
Speaker 4: in late last season. But Jones has other options as well.
Speaker 4: It seems as the start of the league year is approaching,
Speaker 4: so let's say he heads somewhere else.
Speaker 2: So now the Vikings are going to.
Speaker 4: Want some kind of competition for JJ McCarthy, a bridge quarterback,
Speaker 4: kind of what they did last year with Sam Darnold
Speaker 4: before McCarthy got injured. I had mentioned at some point
Speaker 4: that I had been told Aaron Rodgers would be interested
Speaker 4: in returning to the NFC North. We know Rogers has
Speaker 4: been in talks with the New York Giants about potentially
Speaker 4: winding up there. But if Rogers heads to Minnesota, then
Speaker 4: where did the Giants wind up. We've got so many
Speaker 4: more holes to fill in here, and this being the
Speaker 4: first domino that's really going to get things going here,
Speaker 4: and now we're gonna have to wait until Monday when
Speaker 4: the teams can talk to some of these guys as well.
Speaker 4: But this being a domino that could really have a
Speaker 4: ripple down effect that could affect the Vikings, could affect
Speaker 4: the Giants, could affect the Steelers, could affect all these
Speaker 4: the Browns. I didn't mention them Indianapolis looking for someone
Speaker 4: with Anthony Richardson as well. It is going to be
Speaker 4: a fun couple of days. Ian You say it all
Speaker 4: the time, you root for chaos. This is the beginning
Speaker 4: of some chaos, I believe.
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say besides Geno Smith and
Speaker 1: obviously the Raiders, the biggest beneficiary of what's taking place
Speaker 1: in the last hour, without a doubt, is Sam Darnold,
Speaker 1: who had a one year offer from the Vikings that
Speaker 1: he's been sitting on. Through the course of the week,
Speaker 1: there was some sense within the league that perhaps the
Speaker 1: Dnald market was not going to be as lucrative as
Speaker 1: it otherwise might have been projected. Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: with Seattle in the mix, running an offense that with
Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak calling it is pretty similar to the one
Speaker 1: in which Sam Darnold just had the best season of
Speaker 1: his career in Minnesota, he suddenly becomes that much more
Speaker 1: in demand. And I would also mention too, because again,
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of moving parts here. If somebody
Speaker 1: else steps up now for Sam Darnald, prevents him from
Speaker 1: going to Seattle, could Aaron Rodgers even be an option
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks and reunite with one of the guys
Speaker 1: who was in Green Bay when he drafted him General
Speaker 1: manager John Schnyder. These are all possibilities. These are all
Speaker 1: things that we're going to be sorting out as we
Speaker 1: move forward. Here, We've got a lot more on free agency,
Speaker 1: a lot more on the quarterback carousel, a lot more
Speaker 1: on the night's top story. As this edition of The
Speaker 1: Insiders rolls on once again, Gino Smith is heading to
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders, and the Seahawks need a new quarterback.
Speaker 1: Somebody's going to get this guy. James Pierce Junior one
Speaker 1: of these standouts at the scouting combine. He runs faster
Speaker 1: in a hood than anybody since James Jones is going
Speaker 1: to run all the way to our set with us.
Speaker 2: Next on The.
Speaker 1: Insiders, breaking news tonight, the Las Vegas Raiders have their quarterback,
Speaker 1: which happens to be their new coach, Pete Carroll's old quarterback.
Speaker 1: Within the past hour, the Seattle Seahawks and Las Vegas
Speaker 1: Raiders finalizing a trade, sending Gino Smith to Las Vegas
Speaker 1: in exchange for a twenty twenty five third round draft pick,
Speaker 1: an opportunity for Seattle to continue to make over that
Speaker 1: team as coach Mike McDonald enters his second season coming
Speaker 1: off of a ten and seven campaign in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: The Raiders had been in on Matthew Stafford before he
Speaker 1: decided to stay with the Rams. They wanted a veteran
Speaker 1: quarterback as Pete Carroll tries to turn around the culture.
Speaker 1: They got one in Gino Smith, who has been to
Speaker 1: a couple of Pro Bowls as part of a career
Speaker 1: renaissance that began when Pete Carroll gave him the nod
Speaker 1: as their starting quarterback several years ago. A lot more
Speaker 1: on this story and all the fallout for all the
Speaker 1: other quarterback needy teams as this episode of The Insiders
Speaker 1: rolls on. But first, there's some fast guys in this
Speaker 1: year's draft.
Speaker 8: He doesn't have the compression shirt on. He's one of
Speaker 8: the few that's got the well I meant action you
Speaker 8: were call see two whoez forty. That's like me running
Speaker 8: with my my sports hube. You know, I like parachute.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: I don't think it mattered based off that start.
Speaker 2: Wow, okayp Lear In the Hoodie James that shows up
Speaker 2: on tape, he is explosive.
Speaker 8: His first three steps as a rusher. He goes, he
Speaker 8: covers ground, and he goes.
Speaker 5: And he is relaxed. Look at the hoodie flowing.
Speaker 1: How fast is James Pierce Junior a full tenth of
Speaker 1: a second faster at any other defensive end who attended
Speaker 1: this year's scouting combine. So fast, in fact, that he
Speaker 1: just wrapped up a workout and sped over here to
Speaker 1: join us on the Insiders with me Don Pellicero as
Speaker 1: well as Ian Ravenport. Thanks for being here, James. A
Speaker 1: lot to discuss with you here, but let's start out
Speaker 1: with this. There's a lot of fascination as you heard
Speaker 1: there from Rich Eyes and Daniel Jeremiah on the hoodie.
Speaker 1: Is the hoodie always present? Did you have any concerns
Speaker 1: about it being like a wind resistance type of a thing.
Speaker 1: Obviously didn't stop you, But tell me the backstory here.
Speaker 9: Uh No, I just I was working out anything what
Speaker 9: I had on all day and what I was warming
Speaker 9: up in, and then I just look at tank top
Speaker 9: from off from underneath off. But when I FaceTime Coach
Speaker 9: Moen before I ran, he was like, what's up with
Speaker 9: the hoodie? Like that's gonna show you down. I'm like,
Speaker 9: this is all I got and it was go time.
Speaker 9: Then all I had to run.
Speaker 3: Man, you could have been like like point one second
Speaker 3: faster then you would have just been everyone like just
Speaker 3: a little bit more. One of the fun things that happened, well,
Speaker 3: you know, one of the fun things that happens when
Speaker 3: you run really fast at the combine is we do
Speaker 3: the simulcast right simulcams, and like you could see you
Speaker 3: beating like Saquon and aj from the Eagles, and it's
Speaker 3: like kind of a fun thing for us. Did you
Speaker 3: get to see Oh, he's a right here literally? Uh,
Speaker 3: Jalen hurts too, Did you get to see any of this?
Speaker 3: And what do you think when you see your forty
Speaker 3: times compared to all these superstars?
Speaker 2: Uh? Like yeah, like you said, like, I know.
Speaker 9: I'm running, but then that just me running with superstars,
Speaker 9: and so it just shows like my speed among superstars.
Speaker 1: So, James, tell us more just about you your game.
Speaker 1: Do you watch certain guys in the NFL? Do you
Speaker 1: do you emulate certain people? Just just take us through
Speaker 1: what somebody in the NFL is getting from James Pierce
Speaker 1: the football player.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, it's just getting a great pass rusher, a
Speaker 9: great run defend of, a great overall defense defensive player,
Speaker 9: a dog on the defensive side. Yeah, I really don't
Speaker 9: watch like path rushers like just one on one pack rusher.
Speaker 9: I watched groups, but I watched Laura Taylor as well.
Speaker 9: That's probably one of my favorite pack rusher I watch.
Speaker 3: That's a guy who's got some speed as well. You
Speaker 3: also met with a bunch of teams in India. I
Speaker 3: know that's a huge part of this process. What's been
Speaker 3: your message to teams as they try to get to
Speaker 3: know you? Like, what what about you? Do you want
Speaker 3: teams to know during.
Speaker 2: This process.
Speaker 9: That first of all, like that I'm just a great person,
Speaker 9: great teammate, great ball player.
Speaker 8: And then they gained everything that.
Speaker 9: They need, a dominant edge, a dominant player.
Speaker 5: And so on so forward.
Speaker 2: Jams been reading your bio.
Speaker 1: One of the interesting things that jumps out is you
Speaker 1: ended up being a five star recruit, top fifteen recruit nationally,
Speaker 1: but you did not have a Power five offer until
Speaker 1: March of twenty twenty one, basically right before the signing period.
Speaker 5: Do you have a growth spurt?
Speaker 2: Did you suddenly find your game? Like? What changed there
Speaker 2: right at the end of the recruiting process.
Speaker 9: Probably just not putting myself out there as much, Probably
Speaker 9: just been laid back, probably just letting my talents speak
Speaker 9: for yourself, probably not just really selling the talent. And
Speaker 9: then I also graduated class twenty twenty two of my
Speaker 9: high school of my high school career, so I think
Speaker 9: that was going into my senior year, my junior year summer, so.
Speaker 2: Just a lot of people Washington.
Speaker 3: Then, you know, when I was when I was covering
Speaker 3: the SEC, which is a long time to go, way
Speaker 3: before you were there, I was covering Alabama and Tennessee
Speaker 3: was not very good. Alabama would just beat them basically
Speaker 3: all the time. They would get to smoke the cigars
Speaker 3: in the locker room and it was a whole big thing.
Speaker 3: Since you were at Tennessee, Tennessee has won a ton
Speaker 3: more than I can ever remember, including last year. What
Speaker 3: do you think, Look, you're going to go into the
Speaker 3: NFL and you're going to be on a team they're
Speaker 3: going to.
Speaker 2: Talk about culture.
Speaker 3: What did you learn about culture with what Tennessee now
Speaker 3: has built over the last several years by winning like
Speaker 3: they've done.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Like before I got there, were super close to winning,
Speaker 9: super close to getting over at home, super close to
Speaker 9: just becoming a powerhouse.
Speaker 2: So like it taught me a lot doing culture.
Speaker 9: And I just especially even on the big games you
Speaker 9: talk about Thursdaturday on October.
Speaker 2: It was a lot, just the.
Speaker 9: Whole college steem and structure of everything, just being a powerhouse,
Speaker 9: like got one hundred and two thousand fans streaming in
Speaker 9: there and everybody on your side, and it just goes down.
Speaker 2: So it'll teach you a lot about culture, a lot
Speaker 2: about how to stick together.
Speaker 9: Through the ups and down after the long years of
Speaker 9: Alabama beating.
Speaker 2: Us a lot and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Last thing for you here, James. You know right now,
Speaker 1: if you search the internet, you're in every mock draft.
Speaker 2: You're somewhere.
Speaker 1: Some you're higher, some you're lower. Do you pay much
Speaker 1: attention to what people are projecting for you? And where
Speaker 1: do you want to end up in late April here?
Speaker 2: I really don't pay much attention to it.
Speaker 9: It really don't bother me as long as I'm working
Speaker 9: and being at the place I'm at right now in
Speaker 9: the gym. Just got done, getting some work in, Just
Speaker 9: keep putting one foot in front of another, and just
Speaker 9: keep showing the scouts and the teams type of player
Speaker 9: around and I just keep putting out there. I feel
Speaker 9: like everything everything could go well, and I probably want
Speaker 9: to end up I feel like I'm the dam edge
Speaker 9: in the draft.
Speaker 2: I've been there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I've been the best edge in the draft. Home
Speaker 9: in college for the last two years. How do you
Speaker 9: want to keep proving that? Keep showing on that production
Speaker 9: numbers down a little bit this year, but missed.
Speaker 2: A couple of sacks when I got home. But that's
Speaker 2: not about nothing, not about too much.
Speaker 1: Only forty eight more days, man, forty eight more days wondering,
Speaker 1: and I can see. I mean, you're literally on with
Speaker 1: us from the gym. I have a feeling most of
Speaker 1: your time is going to be spent right there. So
Speaker 1: best of luck, man. I can't wait to see you
Speaker 1: find out your home here in the twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: NFL Draft that should be here.
Speaker 2: Thanks James, Yes, sir, thank you for having the truth.
Speaker 2: Shay John as a fast man who is still wearing
Speaker 2: a hoodie right now.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five NFL Draft all kicks off Thursday, April
Speaker 1: twenty fourth in Green Bay, Wisconsin. The likes of Abdul
Speaker 1: Carter Shudor Sanders, Travis Hunter, Ashton genty, and so many
Speaker 1: more like James Pierce Junior. We'll have full coverage all
Speaker 1: the way leading up to that breaking news tonight within
Speaker 1: the past hour or a blockbuster trade three days before
Speaker 1: free agency begins. The Raiders have landed their quarterback, and
Speaker 1: it's Pete Carroll's old quarterback, Gino Smith, traded from the
Speaker 1: Seahawks to the Raiders in exchange for a twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five third round draft pick. We had some fun off
Speaker 1: the top of the show because this news broke about
Speaker 1: two minutes before we were on the air. But exactly
Speaker 1: which of the raiders many third round picks this involved, Mike,
Speaker 1: We have finally a firm and final answer on which
Speaker 1: pick it is.
Speaker 4: So if you were looking earlier at me, well this
Speaker 4: is I was like this, looking like, what's you know?
Speaker 2: And because we were told he was number ninety two.
Speaker 4: But if you go anywhere on the internet and search
Speaker 4: for NFL draft order, you see number ninety two come
Speaker 4: up as the Jets pick, and it says that number
Speaker 4: seventy three was traded from the Jets to the Raiders.
Speaker 4: That is not accurate, apparently number ninety two, So adjust
Speaker 4: your mock drafts now number ninety two belonged to the Raiders.
Speaker 2: After the DeVante trade.
Speaker 4: That is the pick that is going from Vegas to
Speaker 4: Seattle as part.
Speaker 2: Of this trade.
Speaker 4: Right here, it's very dramatic. Again, the Jets have number
Speaker 4: seventy three. The Seahawks now have number ninety two. Your
Speaker 4: three round box are all topsy terraby right now. You're
Speaker 4: just gonna have to. I'm sorry to make you work
Speaker 4: on a Friday night, so we do three round box sure.
Speaker 4: Ninety two, by the way, was originally Detroit's pick. Here's
Speaker 4: your trivia question.
Speaker 1: Togel during the break bike. How did the Jets get
Speaker 1: that pick that they traded to the Raiders? Will find
Speaker 1: out more from you there.
Speaker 5: It was a trade back.
Speaker 4: No, I already thoget that it was a trade back
Speaker 4: during the draft last year.
Speaker 2: Here you go, trade back on it.
Speaker 1: That's how they got it. We will, We'll get the
Speaker 1: full web of everything. But there could be more draft
Speaker 1: picks on the move if the Browns ever changed their
Speaker 1: mind about their Superstar pass rusher Miles Garrett. As I
Speaker 1: reported this morning, Miles Garrett recently requested a meeting with
Speaker 1: Browns owner Jimmy Haslam, who declined to speak directly with
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett amidst his ongoing trade requests. Both sides at
Speaker 1: this point remain dug In. The Browns have made clear
Speaker 1: publicly and privately they are not trading Miles Garrett under
Speaker 1: any circumstances. They are aligned in that off season plan. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett has also made clear, as he did with
Speaker 1: his public trade requests a month or so ago, that
Speaker 1: he intends to continue his Hall of Fame caliber career elsewhere. Obviously, Mike,
Speaker 1: there's different layers to this right now. We said it
Speaker 1: a month ago. This was going to take some time
Speaker 1: to work through it. Jimmy Haslam deferred to Andrew Berry,
Speaker 1: saying he's the football decision maker. If you're Miles Garrett,
Speaker 1: you're also going. But I know he's not doing anything.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm coming to you. What does it all mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's.
Speaker 4: Look, the Browns stance on this one and Jimmy Haslam's
Speaker 4: stance on this one was I trust Andrew Berry to
Speaker 4: handle this situation.
Speaker 2: You've been dealing with him. He's the general manager.
Speaker 4: He makes the decisions on these things, and we are
Speaker 4: in locker step from the owner down to the general
Speaker 4: manager down to the head coach. Heck, I'm sure the
Speaker 4: janitor is on board as well, saying we want to
Speaker 4: keep Miles Garrett with the Cleveland Browns this year. They
Speaker 4: have been adamant publicly. They have been adamant privately as
Speaker 4: well on this one. And Jimmy Haslem saying, no, you're
Speaker 4: not going to go around Andrew Berry.
Speaker 2: Now you can disagree with that.
Speaker 5: And I saw a.
Speaker 4: Report from our buddy Albert Breer earlier today saying that
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins got himself a meeting with ownership down in Atlanta,
Speaker 4: and Arthur Blank took that meeting. That's a different way
Speaker 4: of approaching it. In the case of the Browns, they
Speaker 4: have been criticized in the past. Jimmy Haslam has been
Speaker 4: criticized saying he medals too much. This is the opposite
Speaker 4: of meddling. I guess I know a lot of people
Speaker 4: are still going to.
Speaker 2: Disagree with that.
Speaker 4: I'm just telling you that that is my understanding of
Speaker 4: where the Browns stance was on this one.
Speaker 3: I never understand how an owner can meddle. It's literally
Speaker 3: his team. It's like saying the CEO medals it's like
Speaker 3: they're in charge anyway. Whatever, That's a different soowbox for it.
Speaker 2: Every day.
Speaker 3: I want to focus in on the edge market here,
Speaker 3: focus in on what Tom and I mentioned yesterday, which
Speaker 3: is that Trey Hendrickson does have permission to seek a trade.
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett wants per mission to seek a trade and
Speaker 3: wants to be traded, Trey Henderson actually has it. And
Speaker 3: my understanding here, guys, is that when Trey Hendrickson went
Speaker 3: to the Bengals with this saying I would like to
Speaker 3: be traded, I'd like to explore, the thought was that
Speaker 3: he could go for a first round pick, he could
Speaker 3: go for a premium pick, and so the Bengals were
Speaker 3: basically like, if you can go for a first round pick,
Speaker 3: explore that. Talk to teams. They certainly have had some
Speaker 3: level of interest the Bengals have. But these veteran trades,
Speaker 3: just like the trade oh, I don't know we told
Speaker 3: you about earlier in the show, which you know Smith
Speaker 3: going for just a third, they're never quite as much
Speaker 3: as you think they are because a lot of times
Speaker 3: they're with older players trading. Since surely an older player
Speaker 3: the NFL sack leader, yes, for sure, but also wants
Speaker 3: a new contract. It's not impossible, it's not impossible, it
Speaker 3: can be done. But for the Bengals to get a
Speaker 3: premium pick for Trey Hendrickson and agree to move on
Speaker 3: from a lot of things need to happen.
Speaker 1: This is all part of the summer of the pass
Speaker 1: rushers we talked about on Super Bowl Sunday, because he
Speaker 1: got five or six guys who are all going to
Speaker 1: be trying to be the highest paid non quarterback in
Speaker 1: the NFL. That guy at the top, Miles Garrett, certainly
Speaker 1: has a good argument in the Browns, not for nothing,
Speaker 1: are prepared to pay him if Miles Garrett changes his
Speaker 1: mind about returning to Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Michael Parson's up for a new contract.
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson, Denil Hunter two would talk much about him,
Speaker 1: but certainly he's going to be looking for additional years
Speaker 1: only one year left on his contract. As we bring
Speaker 1: back our Brian Ballninger and Steve Watch. Okay, Baldy, you
Speaker 1: study line play more than probably literally anybody else on
Speaker 1: planet Earth. When you talk about and Trey Hendrickson potentially
Speaker 1: being available, we talk about a Miles Garrett asking for
Speaker 1: a trade. If you're their existing teams, the Browns and
Speaker 1: the Bengals, what do you.
Speaker 7: Think, Well, I mean, I wouldn't trade either player if
Speaker 7: I was both Cleveland or Cincinnati because they're pillars. That's
Speaker 7: what you want on your defense. You want guys that
Speaker 7: can affect the quarterback on any him passed. That being said,
Speaker 7: this happens to be a great draft and a deep
Speaker 7: draft for defensive lineman if Cleveland. Now, look, if Miles
Speaker 7: doesn't want to be there and he wants out, I
Speaker 7: mean Andrew Barry should pick up the phone and talk
Speaker 7: some teams in this league to see what he could
Speaker 7: get for Miles Garrett. Because if you look at you
Speaker 7: know what the Rams have done over the last two years,
Speaker 7: where they have completely rebuilt their defensive line and they
Speaker 7: got four studs in the last two years.
Speaker 5: You could do that this year. There's those level of players.
Speaker 7: Now, I'm not saying anybody is ever going to be
Speaker 7: as good as Miles Garrett is draft, but there's gonna
Speaker 7: be a lot of really good players tackles, ends, edge guys,
Speaker 7: and for Trey Henderson, like only TJ. Watt over the
Speaker 7: last five years has more sacks than Trey Hendrickson. He's
Speaker 7: from a popka, Florida and Steve. If you're from a
Speaker 7: popka like Warren Sapp or Jalen Carter, you show up
Speaker 7: and you show out. And that's what Trey Henderson has
Speaker 7: been doing in Cincinnati. They just don't recognize his value.
Speaker 7: He helped them get to a super Bowl and within
Speaker 7: drive of winning your Super Bowl, and he was a
Speaker 7: key component to that defense.
Speaker 6: But Baldi, you know to that point, I don't First off,
Speaker 6: I don't think either team should trade either guy.
Speaker 5: But I'm with you on this.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 6: It's kind of the time to strike because Miles Garrett
Speaker 6: did worked last year, as did Trey Hendrickson, and guess what,
Speaker 6: neither team made the playoffs. This could be one where
Speaker 6: leadership says, you know what, we can lose without you,
Speaker 6: and at the same time we can restock. And we
Speaker 6: know in terms of the Cincinnati Bengals, that defense has
Speaker 6: not been good. You know it was not good last year.
Speaker 6: Lou Ana Rumo, he is now in Indianapolis. Hey, maybe
Speaker 6: pick up the phone and call the Colts if you
Speaker 6: want to see if you can get if you can
Speaker 6: move Trey Henderson to Indianapolis or maybe you know, some
Speaker 6: other teams. I think they need to explore some opportunities
Speaker 6: in the fact that the Bengals are saying, hey, Trey,
Speaker 6: go go see what's out there.
Speaker 2: Okay, see what the market is. Maybe it's not what
Speaker 2: he thinks it is.
Speaker 6: In terms of Miles Garrett, this is a different thing
Speaker 6: because he seems dug in to the point where he
Speaker 6: will hold out. He will not be in the summer then,
Speaker 6: like he just does not want to be there anymore.
Speaker 6: And that might be one where teams will wait and
Speaker 6: wait and wait. So, if you're Cleveland, do you want
Speaker 6: to restock on compensation for this year's draft or do
Speaker 6: you want to wait and see? I think this is
Speaker 6: gonna be an interesting staredown because I'm sure a team
Speaker 6: like Washington and a couple other teams would love to
Speaker 6: have Miles Garrett coming off the edge feeling that they're
Speaker 6: pretty darn.
Speaker 1: Close, Baldy, Steve, thank you very much. Tight A lot
Speaker 1: more news to come throughout the course of this show.
Speaker 1: We already had a big trade in the NFL. Geno
Speaker 1: Smith headed to the Las Vegas Raiders. Could Sam Darnold
Speaker 1: be the next quarterback of the Seahawks? Our guy Adam
Speaker 1: rankleb be here next to play Max Maker for all
Speaker 1: the different moving quarterback parts. With the first big domino
Speaker 1: having fallen, stick around. A lot more to coming see
Speaker 1: in centers.
Speaker 3: Our top story of the day didn't really get any
Speaker 3: bigger than massive quarterback trades. Exactly what we had to
Speaker 3: start this very show to Gino Smith gets traded to
Speaker 3: the Las Vegas Raiders. I could have some sort of
Speaker 3: pun about how the Raiders called and then Gino called back,
Speaker 3: but it doesn't really make sense in my head right now.
Speaker 3: Should just know this, Gino is the new starting quarterback
Speaker 3: for the Raiders. Seattle needs one and we need to
Speaker 3: make sense of it.
Speaker 5: So no one better to.
Speaker 3: Make sense of it than Adam Rank Right there, Mike
Speaker 3: Grifo with him.
Speaker 2: Two bald guys. Two bald guys are here to talk
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 3: We know about Geno Smith, right, Let's start with you
Speaker 3: right there, Gino Smith to the Raiders, what do you think?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I love this move, you know? Or last night I'm
Speaker 2: sitting there pouring over spending hours in trying to figure
Speaker 2: out the certain matchmakers, like who would be the best
Speaker 2: fit for the Las Vegas Raiders, not thinking about justin
Speaker 2: fields and stuff like that. But Gino Smith ultimately makes
Speaker 2: the most Smith because, of course Pete Carroll probably wrote
Speaker 2: to him. Gino Smith did right back to Pete Carroll
Speaker 2: and said yes, I will come down to Sin City
Speaker 2: and guide your offense. And of course, right when this happens,
Speaker 2: I'm sitting down, you guys are doing the A block there,
Speaker 2: and then I'm getting texts like, hey, where do I
Speaker 2: take brock Bowers? Now? In my fantasy, that's where we are,
Speaker 2: that's where we.
Speaker 5: Are in life.
Speaker 2: Where do I draft Bryar? Like rock Bowers excelled last
Speaker 2: year with less than spectacular quarterback play, And you might
Speaker 2: look at Geno Smith's time in Seattle and be like,
Speaker 2: no Ah Fan wasn't necessarily tearing up the league. But
Speaker 2: I think that brock Bowers is It's slightly above Noah Fan.
Speaker 2: He's going to be the most targeted player in that offense.
Speaker 2: Jacobe Myers is also going to be another guy that
Speaker 2: you want. The one thing that I'm really interested to see,
Speaker 2: And I know this isn't part of it. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm blowing up the rundown a little bit. Ashen ashit Genty.
Speaker 2: I wonder if this is going to be something that
Speaker 2: allows the Raiders now to take a look at somebody
Speaker 2: like that. They're trying to get some skill guys around there.
Speaker 2: Obviously you know what they've got they got their wide receiver,
Speaker 2: they got the tight end. Do they make a move
Speaker 2: for Ashton Genty? A lot of people are really excited
Speaker 2: about him. We saw what happened with Saquon this year,
Speaker 2: what he meant to the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 5: Could that be something?
Speaker 2: Could this be the big thing? So much to look
Speaker 2: forward to in the next couple of months.
Speaker 4: We talked about Tyler Lockett potentially coming in as well,
Speaker 4: to the Raiders reuniting with Pete care Bring Marshaun Lynch back.
Speaker 2: Bring all reunite there. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's so easy, just take you can just come here,
Speaker 4: come come practice, Let's play free agent matchmaker.
Speaker 2: I feel like this. You talk about blowing up the rundown.
Speaker 2: We blow up the rundown like right before the show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I get the rundowns. I feel like this got like
Speaker 2: easier for you.
Speaker 4: So just take the layup, Sam Donald, let's match make
Speaker 4: Sam Darnald with the team.
Speaker 2: Well, you guys did such a great job of laying
Speaker 2: it out in the A block. Again, sorry to use
Speaker 2: the television parlance as well, but listen, Seattle makes a
Speaker 2: lot of sense. You got the same system. Kubiak's going
Speaker 2: to be there. Last night when I was putting this together,
Speaker 2: trying to think about a good place for Sam Darnold. Now,
Speaker 2: obviously a couple of weeks ago, I was on this
Speaker 2: show saying his best his best situation is staying with Minnesota,
Speaker 2: staying with the coach that got you where you needed
Speaker 2: to go. I do believe that if he is going
Speaker 2: to leave the Minnesota Vikings, don't go to one of
Speaker 2: the New York teams. Don't go to an uncertain situation.
Speaker 2: I believe that Pittsburgh makes a lot of sense if
Speaker 2: you look at a team that could go out there
Speaker 2: and give you a lot of success. The Steelers, you know,
Speaker 2: they're going to be in the mix of the playoffs.
Speaker 2: They're going to be above five hundred, as they always are.
Speaker 2: They've got a great defense, depending on what they do
Speaker 2: with George Pickens. They always find a way to be competitive,
Speaker 2: especially offensively. Don't take don't just take anything. Don't get
Speaker 2: If the Tennessee Titans call, be like, yeah, hold on,
Speaker 2: I got somebody on the other line. I'll call you
Speaker 2: back later. Don't right back to that one. Sam Darnold
Speaker 2: may be a little judicious, you know, put some thought
Speaker 2: of this I think Seattle and Pittsburgh are probably the
Speaker 2: only two spots that makes sense for him in Minnesota,
Speaker 2: Seattle and Pits.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Jets involvement in this whole thing, by the
Speaker 4: way that DeVante Adams trade that pick being a part
Speaker 4: of this trade with a former Jets quarterback being traded away,
Speaker 4: potentially a former Jets quarterback filling in here. It's always
Speaker 4: Brian Costello tweet. It always comes back to the Jets,
Speaker 4: and it always comes back to Adam Rank. Thank you, brother,
Speaker 4: We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: New today, Falcons quarterback still Kirk Cousins met this week
Speaker 1: with owner Arthur Blank. Made clear that he would like
Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to start somewhere in the NFL
Speaker 1: this season. My understanding, however, good meeting, but the Falcons
Speaker 1: are not budging. Still not going to release Cousins, remember,
Speaker 1: does have a no trade clause. Levante David also not
Speaker 1: going anywhere. He is back for year fourteen with the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers of green in terms on a one year,
Speaker 1: ten million dollar contract. Earlier today, while the Titans moving
Speaker 1: on from Harold Landry, their pass rusher whos had about
Speaker 1: fifty sacks to the course of his career. They tried
Speaker 1: to trade him, no takers. He was due a big number,
Speaker 1: but now he's still young. Pass rusher set to hit
Speaker 1: the market. Breaking news tonight, the Seattle Seahawks have traded
Speaker 1: Geno Smith to the Las Vegas Raiders in exchange for
Speaker 1: a third round pick, number ninety two overall in next
Speaker 1: month's NFL Draft. Like all trades, this cannot become final
Speaker 1: and official until Wednesday, giving Geno Smith time to pass
Speaker 1: a physical and whatnot. But all kinds of falloup that's
Speaker 1: now going to impact everything else we're talking about. With
Speaker 1: a special Insiders coming up Sunday night, seven BM Easter Time,
Speaker 1: we are on All Day Freezy Frenzy on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Are you were jobbing the segment? I'm ready, let's go.
Speaker 2: We're started tonight. Gino got traded. Are your phone's working?
Speaker 2: That's really the key.
Speaker 1: Us do.
Speaker 2: We'll find out. It's gonna be fun. See