1 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Breaking news right now, and no, this is not a drill. 2 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Just moments ago, the Seattle Seahawks have agreed to terms 3 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: with the Las Vegas Raiders on a blockbuster trade, sending 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: their starting quarterback Gino Smith, a two time pro bowler, 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: to Las Vegas in exchange for a twenty twenty five 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: third round pick. We've got this covered from all angles 7 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: right now. Welcome inside with the insiders alongside Ian Rappoport 8 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: and Mike Girafolo. I am Tom Peliicero. This has all 9 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: kinds of domino effects across the rest of the quarterback market. 10 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: Let's dig into it right now. Ian, starting out with 11 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: the fact that this trade came together. My understanding has 12 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: been the Seahawks were in talks with Gino Smith about 13 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: a new contract. They stood willing to give him a 14 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: raise in twenty twenty five, give him a new deal, 15 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: but they were not able to come to an agreement. 16 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: So what do you know, His old coach Pete Carroll, 17 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: who gave him the starting opportunity in Seattle, revived Gino 18 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: Smith's career. Now those two reunite once again in Las Vegas. 19 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: That's right, a reunion. 20 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: The Las Vegas Raiders have a quarterback. Gino Smith is 21 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: now their quarterback and for the Las Vegas Raiders, we'll 22 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: start with their side of it. Guys, it has been 23 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 3: quite a winding road. Of course, we know they're one 24 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: of the teams the team to try to trade for 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford. He eventually stayed with the Los Angeles Rams. 26 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 3: They explored plenty of options, but it really seemed they 27 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 3: just weren't set on anyone at the combine. The first 28 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: conversation happened between the Raiders and the Seahawks. Hey, could 29 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: this actually happened? Obviously they know each other, Pete Carroll 30 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: with the Seahawks, the sides are friendly, everyone on the 31 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: same page. Or could this happen and not really? Let's 32 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: sort of check back, maybe stay in touch. Then contract 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: talks really got no With Seattle. They re engaged yesterday. 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: Had a meeting this morning between new general manager John 35 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 3: Spytech Seahawks general manager John Snyder got together on a deal. 36 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 3: It is Geno Smith headed to the Raiders, a third 37 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: round pick going to Seattle and Mike Seattle now needs 38 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: a quarterback. Lucky for them, it's before free agency. Every 39 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: option is available besides the quarterbacks you're already spoken for. 40 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: That would be surprised if they target Sam Donald among others. 41 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Sam Donald a possibility. Klint Kubiak up there. His 42 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 4: quarterback last year was Derek Carr. We're still waiting to 43 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 4: see what's going to happen in New Orleans with that situation. 44 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 4: I know the Saint said they want them back, but 45 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 4: they've got to come to some kind of financial agreement there. Yes, 46 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: the contract negotiations with Gino Smith go back to last 47 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 4: year when we reported that there were conversations or Geno 48 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 4: Smith tried to have conversations about a contract last year 49 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 4: and the Seahawks said not with two. 50 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: Years left on your deal. 51 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: He confirmed it to the media, did not seem very 52 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 4: happy at the time that he didn't get an extension. 53 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: So coming into this offseason, feeling like he proved it again, 54 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 4: wanted an even bigger number this time around from the Seahawks. 55 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 4: There was a gulf between the sides from our understanding 56 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 4: here with regard to the financials on this one. So 57 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: in the end, the Seahawks say, well, if we're gonna 58 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: go and spend the money, let's get a pickback in return. 59 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: So they're getting a third round pick back in return. 60 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 4: And yeah, the Raiders had an extra third round pick 61 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: because of that Devonte Adams trade when they traded Davonte 62 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 4: to the Jets in the middle of last season, So 63 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 4: that gave them the flexibility this new regime to still 64 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: have a third round pick after making this trade with 65 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 4: the Seattle Seahawks. So Pete Carroll gets his reunion with 66 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 4: Gino Smith. We know he thinks highly of him, and 67 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 4: we know that there are two. There's one of them, 68 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 4: Dk Metcalf, the other one being Tyler Lockett, two wide 69 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 4: receivers that Gino Smith threw to in Seattle while Pete 70 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: Carroll was the coach. I'd say pretty sure at least 71 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 4: one of them is going to land in Vegas, Tyler 72 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: Lockett being the other one. He is a free agent. 73 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 4: We'll see even both. Maybe a reunion of all three 74 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: of them with their. 75 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: Head coach, Pete Carroll. We'll see. 76 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: So again, this is going to set off a lot 77 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: of different dominoes here, but let's focus in first on 78 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: the two teams involved. I'll start out with Seattle. You 79 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: were asking yourself, probably right now, what is that as 80 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: a Seahawks plan after going ten and seven, the only 81 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: double digit win team that missed the playoffs last season. 82 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: They have DK Metcalf, who is in the middle right 83 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: now of a trade request and they are exploring trades 84 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: for DK Metcalf. They released Tyler Lockett and now they're 85 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: training their quarterback Gino Smith to Las Vegas for a 86 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five third round draft pick. Well, starting out 87 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: with Gino here again, they were willing to give him 88 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: a raise over the roughly twenty seven million dollars that 89 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: he was doing in twenty twenty five. They offered him 90 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: that they had conversations, but they had one conversation yesterday 91 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: and which it became a parent From my understanding that 92 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: Gino Smith was not happy with the state of things. 93 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: He felt like he should be making a lot more money, 94 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: and that opened the door to potentially then saying okay, 95 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: I was like Matthew Stafford a few weeks ago, go 96 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: out and see what else is out there for Gino Smith. 97 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: They have not yet done a new deal in Las 98 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: Vegas with Gino. You would anticipate that that is something 99 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: that's coming before Seattle. Not only Ian, do they now 100 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 1: have the flexibility to go out and sign another quarterback. 101 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: They may well be able to sign another quarterback for 102 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: the same amount or less than they stood willing to 103 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: pay Gino Smith in twenty twenty five, while also picking 104 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: up a third round draft pick that's going to help 105 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: them build this thing the way that Mike McDonald envisions 106 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: it looking as he heads into his second year. 107 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and my understanding of Seattle did make a good 108 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: faith offer to Gino Smith from what I'm told around 109 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: the Baker Mayfield area, so up into the thirties. For 110 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: Gino it was met with a this is just not enough. 111 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 3: And if you're an organization of a starting quarterback and 112 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: you are just not on the same page with value 113 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: and you can somehow, some way get an option that 114 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: you considered to be the same or maybe even better, 115 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: or if it ends up being Sam Donald, a lot 116 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 3: hunger with plenty of potential, this is the time to 117 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: do a trade and look for Seattle. It's a risk, right, 118 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: you go into free agency knowing that you do not 119 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: have a quarterback, and it's a risk, But there's not 120 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: that many chairs available and there's not that many quarterbacks available. 121 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: So if you're Seattle, you know. 122 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 3: You got a pretty good chance at someone like Darnald, 123 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: if you can outbid the Vikings, who have said publicly 124 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: and probably that they want him back. This is an 125 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 3: interesting situation for Seattle, but John Shaider, the general manager, 126 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: one of the best to do it in the NFL, 127 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: for sure, has a plan for how to make this happen. 128 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 129 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 4: Sorry if I look like I'm getting text from my 130 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 4: friends saying what are you so confused about? 131 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 5: I'm trying. 132 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 4: We're told which picket is. I'm just trying to figure 133 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 4: out if it makes sense. You guys, work on that. 134 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 4: I texted you that there Gino Smith the yeah, please, 135 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 4: what are you looking at me for? 136 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: Le start figuring it out. I'm on in Utah. 137 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 4: In here, yes, with Gino Smith here the old the 138 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 4: quote from him after that game. You know they me off, 139 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: but I didn't write back. It was a great story. 140 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 4: It was a great It was a great job by 141 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: him to restart his career here after being with the Giants, 142 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 4: I believe with the Giants previously before him. You know, 143 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 4: Gino had two stops in New York heads to Seattle. 144 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: There now restarts in Vegas. This is a guy that 145 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 4: has played with a lot of pride throughout his entire 146 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 4: career and pride helped really restart things in Seattle. He 147 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 4: kept those mental notes in his head of everything that 148 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 4: people had said through him throughout his career. And you 149 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: know that Pete Carroll is going to feed into that. 150 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 4: He is going to make sure that Geno Smith knows 151 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 4: that people are rating him off, probably once again, and 152 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: motivate him to once again restart his career. 153 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: They're working on getting more targets there. 154 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 4: We talked about the possibility of adding some wide receivers, 155 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: but you know, having brock Bauers there and what we 156 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: saw from him and his rookie career, his rookie season, 157 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 4: excuse me, not a bad start from Geno Smith right there. 158 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: You know one thing I wanted to mention as you 159 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: look at this new Raiders regime, Obviously they're getting a 160 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: starting quarterback they have wanted one in his mid thirties. 161 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: We'll see how long this ends up lasting. But to me, 162 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: Pete Carroll is trying to set the culture here. Gino 163 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: Smith has been in it. He is a leader. He 164 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: is a guy that the other guys in the locker 165 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: room considered to be one. 166 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: Of those dudes. Right. 167 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: He can go a long way in helping Max Krosby, who, 168 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: by the way, just tweeted LFG which I'm not going 169 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: to translate, but it means he's very excited he can 170 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: help Max Krawsby kind of set this culture in Las 171 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: Vegas and really be some of the translators through Pete Carroll. 172 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: So so important when you have a new regime and 173 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: a new coach. 174 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a look at some of the 175 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: other ramifications here. Again, the breaking news tonight is Gino 176 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: Smith traded from the Seattle Seahawks to the Las Vegas 177 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: Raiders in exchange for a twenty twenty five third round 178 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: draft pick. This is significant in so many different ways. Again, 179 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: we'll get to the fallout on the rest of the 180 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: quarterback market as this continues to go on. We also 181 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: know Las Vegas Raiders all of a sudden have so 182 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: that Max Cross have been waiting for, which is a 183 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: quarterback saying let's go with another word in there, at 184 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: say sign that he's very excited one day after he 185 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: signed that monster contract extension. Now the Raiders are hoping 186 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: that they have found their quarterback. For more on this, 187 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: let's bring in our Brian Baldinger as well. As Steve 188 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: Weich into the conversation. Steve, I'll start out with you here. 189 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: When you hear this news of this trade, what do 190 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: you make of it? Knowing the dynamics of what the 191 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: Raiders have been trying to accomplish in this offseas. 192 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tom, you guys are getting the real high notes 193 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: right here. Look. I saw Raiders owner Mark Davis at 194 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. 195 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 6: He told me we have got to get a quarterback, 196 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 6: and real quick to go to that Max cross between 197 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 6: LFG the guy helping them quarterback Tom help him find 198 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 6: the quarterback Tom Brady. That was a big thing for 199 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 6: him too, and Mark Davis said they were going to 200 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 6: lean on Tom. So now, as Ian said, they've got 201 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 6: a veteran quarterback hen here with the experience that can 202 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 6: help them level up and change the culture, much like 203 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 6: the Chargers did last year. Look look at how top 204 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 6: that division is. They had to get a quarterback with 205 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 6: some skins on the wall who's still got some time 206 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 6: left in his career to get things turned around. Now, 207 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 6: Chip Kelly, the new offensive coordinator, can start designing an 208 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 6: offense that plays the Gino's strengths and just historically, what 209 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 6: are the Raiders like to do. 210 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: They like to throw the deep ball. We know Gino 211 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 2: can throw the deep ball. 212 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 6: So he checks some of the boxes organizationally, but more 213 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 6: so culturally as Pete Carroll tries to turn it around. 214 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 6: And then we'll get to the Seahawks ind of things 215 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 6: a little bit later. 216 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 7: Well, see if he goes from the NFC West to 217 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 7: the AFC West here, and you know, when you look 218 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 7: at Chip Kelly and when he came to Philadelphia the 219 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 7: first time, it was everything that he did at Oregon. 220 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 5: It was up tempo, it was spread. 221 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 7: Well that's the offense that Gino Smith grew up in 222 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 7: a West Virginia. 223 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 5: I mean, it's exactly the same offense. 224 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 7: So he understands tempo, he understands shotgun, he understands getting 225 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 7: the ball out of his hands fast. 226 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 5: So I think there's a matterag there. 227 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 7: Just going back to when Gino got that job with Seattle. 228 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 7: I remember there was a quarterback battle him and Drew 229 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 7: Lock and Gino won that battle. And I remember talking 230 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 7: to Gino at that time and he said, for the 231 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 7: first time in his whole career, he felt like the 232 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 7: organization had his back, and Pete Carroll has his back 233 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 7: in this deal right here. 234 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 5: So you got you got Pete, You've. 235 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 7: Got Chip, you got Gino, and they've got a quarterback 236 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 7: here that is lined up two for more yards this 237 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 7: year with a you know, with a coordinator that's not 238 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 7: even in the league anymore in Ryan Grubb than he 239 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 7: had ever thrown in his career. So he's coming off healthy, 240 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 7: a good year, a year where they won ten games. 241 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 7: I think it's a good win here for the Raiders 242 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 7: right now. 243 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: And of course they also have another key player on 244 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: the trade block, Steve dk Metcalf, who met with team 245 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: officials a couple of days ago. The decision made that 246 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: DK wanted to have a trade. The Seahawks said they 247 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: are going to work at that. Minus staying is they've 248 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: been in contact with a bunch of different teams here, 249 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: so a chance not just to add a high draft 250 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: pick for Gino, but perhaps another high pick or two. 251 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: What does the Geno trade make you think about how 252 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: the snow plays out with Dk? 253 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 6: Well, this is intriguing right now because Tom, you know, 254 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 6: they're not going to move dk Metcalf unless these are 255 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 6: very worthy draft picks. I spoke to someone up there today. 256 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 6: They don't want to get rid of DK Metcalf. He's 257 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 6: only twenty seven years old. He was only eight yard 258 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 6: shive from having his third consecutive one thousand yard season. 259 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: And when every coordinator innervated for the interview. 260 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 6: For the OC job this year, one of the first 261 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 6: topics I was told that came up with every one 262 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 6: of them is how are we going to get dk 263 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 6: Metcalf involved in this offense? That said, this dynamic, maybe 264 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 6: it is a reset for Seattle when they see that 265 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 6: this division, this NFC West, could be open. Let's say 266 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 6: they get into the Sam Darnold sweepstakes, they get him 267 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 6: in here, they get him some other wide receivers, because 268 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 6: Seattle's going to have to draft a wide receiver to 269 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 6: go at Jackie Smith and Jigba, whether DK Metcalf is 270 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 6: there or not, They've got to build up that area. 271 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 6: So by stacking draft picks, and if they add more 272 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 6: with DK Metcalf, this could be a reset of sorts. 273 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 6: But at the same time, Tom, as you alluded to, 274 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 6: this is a ten win team and people out there 275 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 6: think they're much closer than a lot of other people do. 276 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 6: Maybe they go ahead and get a veteran, you know, 277 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 6: a veteran widere's even Amari Cooper or someone like that, 278 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 6: if they get rid of DK Metcalf to add to 279 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 6: a draft pick. But I think there's a lot of 280 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 6: layers to this now that Gino Smith is no longer 281 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 6: part of the equation. 282 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 7: Baldy Steve, Let's be very clear about this. DK Metcalf 283 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 7: is a straight dog. Yes, there's you could put him 284 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 7: in every offense in this league and he would he 285 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 7: would upgrade your pass game. I was amazed last year 286 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 7: at games where they just ignored him and went away 287 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 7: from him, like he is a nightmare for any corner 288 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 7: if you're playing man coverage, like he's got you beat 289 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 7: right off the bat, whether it's his release, whether it's 290 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 7: jump ball skills, whether it's his route running, whether it's 291 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 7: his hunger for the ball. Like, this guy is a 292 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 7: straight dog. And so there's gonna be a lot of 293 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 7: teams that are interested. I mean, Seattle, I don't know 294 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 7: what they're gonna do at this point. If he once out, 295 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 7: there's gonna be a lot takers out there that would 296 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 7: give up a lot to go and get him and 297 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 7: insert him at the extra receiver in anybody's offense. 298 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: Baldy Steve thank you very much. A lot more from 299 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: you guys on free agency and other topics. As this 300 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: show continues to roll on, once again breaking news, I 301 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: will reiterate this is real. These Seahawks training their two 302 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: time Pro Bowl quarterback Gino Smith to the Raiders for 303 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: a twenty twenty five third round draft pick reunion. Of course, 304 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: for Pete Carroll is in the background. They're wearing some 305 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: sunglasses in his Seattle days. He was the guy who 306 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: gave Gino Smith the opportunity to be a starter again, 307 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: and now Gino set to rejoin his old coach in 308 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, which, in turn, guys, is quite possibly the 309 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: first proverbial domino in a quarterback market that everybody within 310 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: the league was waiting on a few things. They're waiting 311 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: to see how things are going to work out in Pittsburgh, 312 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: whereas Ian told us a couple of days ago, here 313 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: justin field seems like the most likely option, but there's 314 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: nothing done there. It's Derek Carr, which Mike mentioned, they've 315 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: been trying to figure out is there were revised content right. 316 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: And then it is in Seattle where this really started 317 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: to materialize and become real within the past twenty four 318 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: to forty eight hours here Gino now headed to Las Vegas. 319 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: We set off the top ian that Sam Darnold, from 320 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: what I am told, is a minimum a leading candidate 321 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: to be the next quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks. If 322 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: that indeed is the case, that means the Vikings now 323 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: potentially could pivot to Daniel Jones, but he might have 324 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: options elsewhere where do we stand? 325 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's go right there, because this is the 326 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: biggest domino that we've seen in the quarterback world, even 327 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: I would say even bigger than Matthew Stafford or somewhere 328 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: in that realm, just because of what it means for 329 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: so many other places. 330 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: We'll start in Seattle, I would agree. 331 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: It does feel to me feel like Sam Donald would 332 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: be the first one target today if they could beat 333 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: the Minnesota offer, which you know, if he's going to 334 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: be their starting quarterback and they don't have someone like 335 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy they're waiting, maybe Seattle would come in over Minnesota. 336 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: If that's where he wants to play, then surely that 337 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: makes sense. And then the Vikings have Daniel Jones, who 338 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: they really like, did a really nice job for them, 339 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: but does he have other opportunities the Indianapolis Colts, who 340 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 3: have Anthony Richardson, who want to bring in competition, They 341 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: would make a lot of sense for Daniel Jones as well. 342 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: And if he goes, if he wants to really come 343 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: in and compete for a starting job and potentially have 344 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: it long term, is Indianapolis a better place in Minnesota? 345 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: Or does he want to go with Kevin O'Connell and 346 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: this Minnesota Viking team that is so well coached and 347 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: did such a good job with Donald last year. So 348 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 3: that's sort of where we're at, Mike, is the different 349 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: variables of like who would choose where based on how 350 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: much playing time and whether they could start, and so 351 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: much has to play out next week. 352 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 4: Let's follow the bouncing ball and let's fill it in 353 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 4: with some of the things that we have been talking 354 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 4: about the last couple of days. If Sam Donald does 355 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 4: wind up in Seattle as the next starting quarterback of 356 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 4: the Seahawks, the fallback to which the Vikings started to 357 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: work on last year is Daniel Jones, whom they brought 358 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: in late last season. But Jones has other options as well. 359 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: It seems as the start of the league year is approaching, 360 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 4: so let's say he heads somewhere else. 361 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 2: So now the Vikings are going to. 362 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 4: Want some kind of competition for JJ McCarthy, a bridge quarterback, 363 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 4: kind of what they did last year with Sam Darnold 364 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 4: before McCarthy got injured. I had mentioned at some point 365 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: that I had been told Aaron Rodgers would be interested 366 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 4: in returning to the NFC North. We know Rogers has 367 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: been in talks with the New York Giants about potentially 368 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 4: winding up there. But if Rogers heads to Minnesota, then 369 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 4: where did the Giants wind up. We've got so many 370 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 4: more holes to fill in here, and this being the 371 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 4: first domino that's really going to get things going here, 372 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 4: and now we're gonna have to wait until Monday when 373 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 4: the teams can talk to some of these guys as well. 374 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 4: But this being a domino that could really have a 375 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 4: ripple down effect that could affect the Vikings, could affect 376 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 4: the Giants, could affect the Steelers, could affect all these 377 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 4: the Browns. I didn't mention them Indianapolis looking for someone 378 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 4: with Anthony Richardson as well. It is going to be 379 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 4: a fun couple of days. Ian You say it all 380 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 4: the time, you root for chaos. This is the beginning 381 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 4: of some chaos, I believe. 382 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say besides Geno Smith and 383 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 1: obviously the Raiders, the biggest beneficiary of what's taking place 384 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: in the last hour, without a doubt, is Sam Darnold, 385 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: who had a one year offer from the Vikings that 386 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: he's been sitting on. Through the course of the week, 387 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: there was some sense within the league that perhaps the 388 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: Dnald market was not going to be as lucrative as 389 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: it otherwise might have been projected. Now, all of a sudden, 390 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: with Seattle in the mix, running an offense that with 391 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak calling it is pretty similar to the one 392 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: in which Sam Darnold just had the best season of 393 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: his career in Minnesota, he suddenly becomes that much more 394 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: in demand. And I would also mention too, because again, 395 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: we've got a lot of moving parts here. If somebody 396 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: else steps up now for Sam Darnald, prevents him from 397 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: going to Seattle, could Aaron Rodgers even be an option 398 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks and reunite with one of the guys 399 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: who was in Green Bay when he drafted him General 400 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: manager John Schnyder. These are all possibilities. These are all 401 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: things that we're going to be sorting out as we 402 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: move forward. Here, We've got a lot more on free agency, 403 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: a lot more on the quarterback carousel, a lot more 404 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: on the night's top story. As this edition of The 405 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: Insiders rolls on once again, Gino Smith is heading to 406 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders, and the Seahawks need a new quarterback. 407 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: Somebody's going to get this guy. James Pierce Junior one 408 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: of these standouts at the scouting combine. He runs faster 409 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: in a hood than anybody since James Jones is going 410 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: to run all the way to our set with us. 411 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: Next on The. 412 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: Insiders, breaking news tonight, the Las Vegas Raiders have their quarterback, 413 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: which happens to be their new coach, Pete Carroll's old quarterback. 414 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: Within the past hour, the Seattle Seahawks and Las Vegas 415 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: Raiders finalizing a trade, sending Gino Smith to Las Vegas 416 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: in exchange for a twenty twenty five third round draft pick, 417 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: an opportunity for Seattle to continue to make over that 418 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: team as coach Mike McDonald enters his second season coming 419 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: off of a ten and seven campaign in twenty twenty four. 420 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: The Raiders had been in on Matthew Stafford before he 421 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: decided to stay with the Rams. They wanted a veteran 422 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: quarterback as Pete Carroll tries to turn around the culture. 423 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: They got one in Gino Smith, who has been to 424 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: a couple of Pro Bowls as part of a career 425 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: renaissance that began when Pete Carroll gave him the nod 426 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: as their starting quarterback several years ago. A lot more 427 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: on this story and all the fallout for all the 428 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: other quarterback needy teams as this episode of The Insiders 429 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: rolls on. But first, there's some fast guys in this 430 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: year's draft. 431 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 8: He doesn't have the compression shirt on. He's one of 432 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 8: the few that's got the well I meant action you 433 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 8: were call see two whoez forty. That's like me running 434 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 8: with my my sports hube. You know, I like parachute. 435 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. 436 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 8: I don't think it mattered based off that start. 437 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: Wow, okayp Lear In the Hoodie James that shows up 438 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: on tape, he is explosive. 439 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 8: His first three steps as a rusher. He goes, he 440 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 8: covers ground, and he goes. 441 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 5: And he is relaxed. Look at the hoodie flowing. 442 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: How fast is James Pierce Junior a full tenth of 443 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: a second faster at any other defensive end who attended 444 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: this year's scouting combine. So fast, in fact, that he 445 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: just wrapped up a workout and sped over here to 446 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: join us on the Insiders with me Don Pellicero as 447 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: well as Ian Ravenport. Thanks for being here, James. A 448 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: lot to discuss with you here, but let's start out 449 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: with this. There's a lot of fascination as you heard 450 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: there from Rich Eyes and Daniel Jeremiah on the hoodie. 451 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: Is the hoodie always present? Did you have any concerns 452 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: about it being like a wind resistance type of a thing. 453 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: Obviously didn't stop you, But tell me the backstory here. 454 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 9: Uh No, I just I was working out anything what 455 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 9: I had on all day and what I was warming 456 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 9: up in, and then I just look at tank top 457 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 9: from off from underneath off. But when I FaceTime Coach 458 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 9: Moen before I ran, he was like, what's up with 459 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 9: the hoodie? Like that's gonna show you down. I'm like, 460 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 9: this is all I got and it was go time. 461 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 9: Then all I had to run. 462 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 3: Man, you could have been like like point one second 463 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 3: faster then you would have just been everyone like just 464 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: a little bit more. One of the fun things that happened, well, 465 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: you know, one of the fun things that happens when 466 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 3: you run really fast at the combine is we do 467 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 3: the simulcast right simulcams, and like you could see you 468 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 3: beating like Saquon and aj from the Eagles, and it's 469 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: like kind of a fun thing for us. Did you 470 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: get to see Oh, he's a right here literally? Uh, 471 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 3: Jalen hurts too, Did you get to see any of this? 472 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: And what do you think when you see your forty 473 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 3: times compared to all these superstars? 474 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: Uh? Like yeah, like you said, like, I know. 475 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 9: I'm running, but then that just me running with superstars, 476 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 9: and so it just shows like my speed among superstars. 477 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: So, James, tell us more just about you your game. 478 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: Do you watch certain guys in the NFL? Do you 479 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: do you emulate certain people? Just just take us through 480 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: what somebody in the NFL is getting from James Pierce 481 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: the football player. 482 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, it's just getting a great pass rusher, a 483 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 9: great run defend of, a great overall defense defensive player, 484 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 9: a dog on the defensive side. Yeah, I really don't 485 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 9: watch like path rushers like just one on one pack rusher. 486 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 9: I watched groups, but I watched Laura Taylor as well. 487 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 9: That's probably one of my favorite pack rusher I watch. 488 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 3: That's a guy who's got some speed as well. You 489 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 3: also met with a bunch of teams in India. I 490 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 3: know that's a huge part of this process. What's been 491 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 3: your message to teams as they try to get to 492 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: know you? Like, what what about you? Do you want 493 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: teams to know during. 494 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 2: This process. 495 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 9: That first of all, like that I'm just a great person, 496 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 9: great teammate, great ball player. 497 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 8: And then they gained everything that. 498 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 9: They need, a dominant edge, a dominant player. 499 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 5: And so on so forward. 500 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: Jams been reading your bio. 501 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: One of the interesting things that jumps out is you 502 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: ended up being a five star recruit, top fifteen recruit nationally, 503 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: but you did not have a Power five offer until 504 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: March of twenty twenty one, basically right before the signing period. 505 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 5: Do you have a growth spurt? 506 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: Did you suddenly find your game? Like? What changed there 507 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: right at the end of the recruiting process. 508 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 9: Probably just not putting myself out there as much, Probably 509 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 9: just been laid back, probably just letting my talents speak 510 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 9: for yourself, probably not just really selling the talent. And 511 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 9: then I also graduated class twenty twenty two of my 512 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 9: high school of my high school career, so I think 513 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 9: that was going into my senior year, my junior year summer, so. 514 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 2: Just a lot of people Washington. 515 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 3: Then, you know, when I was when I was covering 516 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 3: the SEC, which is a long time to go, way 517 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: before you were there, I was covering Alabama and Tennessee 518 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 3: was not very good. Alabama would just beat them basically 519 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: all the time. They would get to smoke the cigars 520 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: in the locker room and it was a whole big thing. 521 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: Since you were at Tennessee, Tennessee has won a ton 522 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 3: more than I can ever remember, including last year. What 523 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: do you think, Look, you're going to go into the 524 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: NFL and you're going to be on a team they're 525 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 3: going to. 526 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 2: Talk about culture. 527 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 3: What did you learn about culture with what Tennessee now 528 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 3: has built over the last several years by winning like 529 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: they've done. 530 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 5: Well. 531 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, Like before I got there, were super close to winning, 532 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 9: super close to getting over at home, super close to 533 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 9: just becoming a powerhouse. 534 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: So like it taught me a lot doing culture. 535 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 9: And I just especially even on the big games you 536 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 9: talk about Thursdaturday on October. 537 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 2: It was a lot, just the. 538 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 9: Whole college steem and structure of everything, just being a powerhouse, 539 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 9: like got one hundred and two thousand fans streaming in 540 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 9: there and everybody on your side, and it just goes down. 541 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 2: So it'll teach you a lot about culture, a lot 542 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: about how to stick together. 543 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 9: Through the ups and down after the long years of 544 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 9: Alabama beating. 545 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 2: Us a lot and stuff like that. 546 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: Last thing for you here, James. You know right now, 547 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: if you search the internet, you're in every mock draft. 548 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 2: You're somewhere. 549 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: Some you're higher, some you're lower. Do you pay much 550 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: attention to what people are projecting for you? And where 551 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: do you want to end up in late April here? 552 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: I really don't pay much attention to it. 553 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 9: It really don't bother me as long as I'm working 554 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 9: and being at the place I'm at right now in 555 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 9: the gym. Just got done, getting some work in, Just 556 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 9: keep putting one foot in front of another, and just 557 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 9: keep showing the scouts and the teams type of player 558 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 9: around and I just keep putting out there. I feel 559 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 9: like everything everything could go well, and I probably want 560 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 9: to end up I feel like I'm the dam edge 561 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 9: in the draft. 562 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: I've been there. 563 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, I've been the best edge in the draft. Home 564 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 9: in college for the last two years. How do you 565 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 9: want to keep proving that? Keep showing on that production 566 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 9: numbers down a little bit this year, but missed. 567 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 2: A couple of sacks when I got home. But that's 568 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: not about nothing, not about too much. 569 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: Only forty eight more days, man, forty eight more days wondering, 570 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: and I can see. I mean, you're literally on with 571 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: us from the gym. I have a feeling most of 572 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: your time is going to be spent right there. So 573 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: best of luck, man. I can't wait to see you 574 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: find out your home here in the twenty twenty five 575 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: NFL Draft that should be here. 576 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: Thanks James, Yes, sir, thank you for having the truth. 577 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: Shay John as a fast man who is still wearing 578 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: a hoodie right now. 579 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five NFL Draft all kicks off Thursday, April 580 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: twenty fourth in Green Bay, Wisconsin. The likes of Abdul 581 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: Carter Shudor Sanders, Travis Hunter, Ashton genty, and so many 582 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: more like James Pierce Junior. We'll have full coverage all 583 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: the way leading up to that breaking news tonight within 584 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: the past hour or a blockbuster trade three days before 585 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: free agency begins. The Raiders have landed their quarterback, and 586 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: it's Pete Carroll's old quarterback, Gino Smith, traded from the 587 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: Seahawks to the Raiders in exchange for a twenty twenty 588 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: five third round draft pick. We had some fun off 589 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: the top of the show because this news broke about 590 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: two minutes before we were on the air. But exactly 591 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: which of the raiders many third round picks this involved, Mike, 592 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: We have finally a firm and final answer on which 593 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: pick it is. 594 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 4: So if you were looking earlier at me, well this 595 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 4: is I was like this, looking like, what's you know? 596 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: And because we were told he was number ninety two. 597 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 4: But if you go anywhere on the internet and search 598 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: for NFL draft order, you see number ninety two come 599 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 4: up as the Jets pick, and it says that number 600 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 4: seventy three was traded from the Jets to the Raiders. 601 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 4: That is not accurate, apparently number ninety two, So adjust 602 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 4: your mock drafts now number ninety two belonged to the Raiders. 603 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: After the DeVante trade. 604 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 4: That is the pick that is going from Vegas to 605 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 4: Seattle as part. 606 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: Of this trade. 607 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 4: Right here, it's very dramatic. Again, the Jets have number 608 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 4: seventy three. The Seahawks now have number ninety two. Your 609 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 4: three round box are all topsy terraby right now. You're 610 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 4: just gonna have to. I'm sorry to make you work 611 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 4: on a Friday night, so we do three round box sure. 612 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 4: Ninety two, by the way, was originally Detroit's pick. Here's 613 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 4: your trivia question. 614 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: Togel during the break bike. How did the Jets get 615 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: that pick that they traded to the Raiders? Will find 616 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: out more from you there. 617 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 5: It was a trade back. 618 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 4: No, I already thoget that it was a trade back 619 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 4: during the draft last year. 620 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: Here you go, trade back on it. 621 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: That's how they got it. We will, We'll get the 622 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: full web of everything. But there could be more draft 623 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: picks on the move if the Browns ever changed their 624 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: mind about their Superstar pass rusher Miles Garrett. As I 625 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: reported this morning, Miles Garrett recently requested a meeting with 626 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: Browns owner Jimmy Haslam, who declined to speak directly with 627 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett amidst his ongoing trade requests. Both sides at 628 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: this point remain dug In. The Browns have made clear 629 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: publicly and privately they are not trading Miles Garrett under 630 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: any circumstances. They are aligned in that off season plan. Meanwhile, 631 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett has also made clear, as he did with 632 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: his public trade requests a month or so ago, that 633 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: he intends to continue his Hall of Fame caliber career elsewhere. Obviously, Mike, 634 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: there's different layers to this right now. We said it 635 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: a month ago. This was going to take some time 636 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: to work through it. Jimmy Haslam deferred to Andrew Berry, 637 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: saying he's the football decision maker. If you're Miles Garrett, 638 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: you're also going. But I know he's not doing anything. 639 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: That's why I'm coming to you. What does it all mean? 640 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's. 641 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 4: Look, the Browns stance on this one and Jimmy Haslam's 642 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 4: stance on this one was I trust Andrew Berry to 643 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 4: handle this situation. 644 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: You've been dealing with him. He's the general manager. 645 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 4: He makes the decisions on these things, and we are 646 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 4: in locker step from the owner down to the general 647 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 4: manager down to the head coach. Heck, I'm sure the 648 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 4: janitor is on board as well, saying we want to 649 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 4: keep Miles Garrett with the Cleveland Browns this year. They 650 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 4: have been adamant publicly. They have been adamant privately as 651 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 4: well on this one. And Jimmy Haslem saying, no, you're 652 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 4: not going to go around Andrew Berry. 653 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: Now you can disagree with that. 654 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 5: And I saw a. 655 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 4: Report from our buddy Albert Breer earlier today saying that 656 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins got himself a meeting with ownership down in Atlanta, 657 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 4: and Arthur Blank took that meeting. That's a different way 658 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 4: of approaching it. In the case of the Browns, they 659 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 4: have been criticized in the past. Jimmy Haslam has been 660 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 4: criticized saying he medals too much. This is the opposite 661 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 4: of meddling. I guess I know a lot of people 662 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 4: are still going to. 663 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: Disagree with that. 664 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 4: I'm just telling you that that is my understanding of 665 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 4: where the Browns stance was on this one. 666 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 3: I never understand how an owner can meddle. It's literally 667 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 3: his team. It's like saying the CEO medals it's like 668 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 3: they're in charge anyway. Whatever, That's a different soowbox for it. 669 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: Every day. 670 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 3: I want to focus in on the edge market here, 671 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 3: focus in on what Tom and I mentioned yesterday, which 672 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 3: is that Trey Hendrickson does have permission to seek a trade. 673 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett wants per mission to seek a trade and 674 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 3: wants to be traded, Trey Henderson actually has it. And 675 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 3: my understanding here, guys, is that when Trey Hendrickson went 676 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: to the Bengals with this saying I would like to 677 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: be traded, I'd like to explore, the thought was that 678 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 3: he could go for a first round pick, he could 679 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: go for a premium pick, and so the Bengals were 680 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 3: basically like, if you can go for a first round pick, 681 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 3: explore that. Talk to teams. They certainly have had some 682 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: level of interest the Bengals have. But these veteran trades, 683 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 3: just like the trade oh, I don't know we told 684 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 3: you about earlier in the show, which you know Smith 685 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 3: going for just a third, they're never quite as much 686 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: as you think they are because a lot of times 687 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 3: they're with older players trading. Since surely an older player 688 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: the NFL sack leader, yes, for sure, but also wants 689 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 3: a new contract. It's not impossible, it's not impossible, it 690 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 3: can be done. But for the Bengals to get a 691 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: premium pick for Trey Hendrickson and agree to move on 692 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 3: from a lot of things need to happen. 693 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: This is all part of the summer of the pass 694 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: rushers we talked about on Super Bowl Sunday, because he 695 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: got five or six guys who are all going to 696 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: be trying to be the highest paid non quarterback in 697 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. That guy at the top, Miles Garrett, certainly 698 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: has a good argument in the Browns, not for nothing, 699 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: are prepared to pay him if Miles Garrett changes his 700 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: mind about returning to Cleveland. 701 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: Michael Parson's up for a new contract. 702 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson, Denil Hunter two would talk much about him, 703 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: but certainly he's going to be looking for additional years 704 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: only one year left on his contract. As we bring 705 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: back our Brian Ballninger and Steve Watch. Okay, Baldy, you 706 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: study line play more than probably literally anybody else on 707 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: planet Earth. When you talk about and Trey Hendrickson potentially 708 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: being available, we talk about a Miles Garrett asking for 709 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: a trade. If you're their existing teams, the Browns and 710 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: the Bengals, what do you. 711 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 7: Think, Well, I mean, I wouldn't trade either player if 712 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 7: I was both Cleveland or Cincinnati because they're pillars. That's 713 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 7: what you want on your defense. You want guys that 714 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 7: can affect the quarterback on any him passed. That being said, 715 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 7: this happens to be a great draft and a deep 716 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 7: draft for defensive lineman if Cleveland. Now, look, if Miles 717 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 7: doesn't want to be there and he wants out, I 718 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 7: mean Andrew Barry should pick up the phone and talk 719 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 7: some teams in this league to see what he could 720 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 7: get for Miles Garrett. Because if you look at you 721 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 7: know what the Rams have done over the last two years, 722 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 7: where they have completely rebuilt their defensive line and they 723 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,479 Speaker 7: got four studs in the last two years. 724 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 5: You could do that this year. There's those level of players. 725 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 7: Now, I'm not saying anybody is ever going to be 726 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 7: as good as Miles Garrett is draft, but there's gonna 727 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 7: be a lot of really good players tackles, ends, edge guys, 728 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 7: and for Trey Henderson, like only TJ. Watt over the 729 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 7: last five years has more sacks than Trey Hendrickson. He's 730 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 7: from a popka, Florida and Steve. If you're from a 731 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 7: popka like Warren Sapp or Jalen Carter, you show up 732 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 7: and you show out. And that's what Trey Henderson has 733 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 7: been doing in Cincinnati. They just don't recognize his value. 734 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 7: He helped them get to a super Bowl and within 735 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 7: drive of winning your Super Bowl, and he was a 736 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 7: key component to that defense. 737 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 6: But Baldi, you know to that point, I don't First off, 738 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 6: I don't think either team should trade either guy. 739 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 5: But I'm with you on this. 740 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 2: Now. 741 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 6: It's kind of the time to strike because Miles Garrett 742 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 6: did worked last year, as did Trey Hendrickson, and guess what, 743 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 6: neither team made the playoffs. This could be one where 744 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 6: leadership says, you know what, we can lose without you, 745 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 6: and at the same time we can restock. And we 746 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 6: know in terms of the Cincinnati Bengals, that defense has 747 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 6: not been good. You know it was not good last year. 748 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 6: Lou Ana Rumo, he is now in Indianapolis. Hey, maybe 749 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 6: pick up the phone and call the Colts if you 750 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 6: want to see if you can get if you can 751 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 6: move Trey Henderson to Indianapolis or maybe you know, some 752 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 6: other teams. I think they need to explore some opportunities 753 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 6: in the fact that the Bengals are saying, hey, Trey, 754 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 6: go go see what's out there. 755 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 2: Okay, see what the market is. Maybe it's not what 756 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 2: he thinks it is. 757 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 6: In terms of Miles Garrett, this is a different thing 758 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 6: because he seems dug in to the point where he 759 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 6: will hold out. He will not be in the summer then, 760 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 6: like he just does not want to be there anymore. 761 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 6: And that might be one where teams will wait and 762 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 6: wait and wait. So, if you're Cleveland, do you want 763 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 6: to restock on compensation for this year's draft or do 764 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 6: you want to wait and see? I think this is 765 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 6: gonna be an interesting staredown because I'm sure a team 766 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 6: like Washington and a couple other teams would love to 767 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 6: have Miles Garrett coming off the edge feeling that they're 768 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 6: pretty darn. 769 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: Close, Baldy, Steve, thank you very much. Tight A lot 770 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: more news to come throughout the course of this show. 771 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: We already had a big trade in the NFL. Geno 772 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: Smith headed to the Las Vegas Raiders. Could Sam Darnold 773 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: be the next quarterback of the Seahawks? Our guy Adam 774 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: rankleb be here next to play Max Maker for all 775 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: the different moving quarterback parts. With the first big domino 776 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: having fallen, stick around. A lot more to coming see 777 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: in centers. 778 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 3: Our top story of the day didn't really get any 779 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 3: bigger than massive quarterback trades. Exactly what we had to 780 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 3: start this very show to Gino Smith gets traded to 781 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 3: the Las Vegas Raiders. I could have some sort of 782 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 3: pun about how the Raiders called and then Gino called back, 783 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 3: but it doesn't really make sense in my head right now. 784 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 3: Should just know this, Gino is the new starting quarterback 785 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 3: for the Raiders. Seattle needs one and we need to 786 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 3: make sense of it. 787 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 5: So no one better to. 788 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 3: Make sense of it than Adam Rank Right there, Mike 789 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 3: Grifo with him. 790 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 2: Two bald guys. Two bald guys are here to talk 791 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 2: to me. 792 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 3: We know about Geno Smith, right, Let's start with you 793 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 3: right there, Gino Smith to the Raiders, what do you think? 794 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 5: Yeah? 795 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 2: I love this move, you know? Or last night I'm 796 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 2: sitting there pouring over spending hours in trying to figure 797 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 2: out the certain matchmakers, like who would be the best 798 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 2: fit for the Las Vegas Raiders, not thinking about justin 799 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 2: fields and stuff like that. But Gino Smith ultimately makes 800 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: the most Smith because, of course Pete Carroll probably wrote 801 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: to him. Gino Smith did right back to Pete Carroll 802 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,479 Speaker 2: and said yes, I will come down to Sin City 803 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 2: and guide your offense. And of course, right when this happens, 804 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 2: I'm sitting down, you guys are doing the A block there, 805 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 2: and then I'm getting texts like, hey, where do I 806 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 2: take brock Bowers? Now? In my fantasy, that's where we are, 807 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 2: that's where we. 808 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 5: Are in life. 809 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,479 Speaker 2: Where do I draft Bryar? Like rock Bowers excelled last 810 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: year with less than spectacular quarterback play, And you might 811 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 2: look at Geno Smith's time in Seattle and be like, 812 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: no Ah Fan wasn't necessarily tearing up the league. But 813 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 2: I think that brock Bowers is It's slightly above Noah Fan. 814 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 2: He's going to be the most targeted player in that offense. 815 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 2: Jacobe Myers is also going to be another guy that 816 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 2: you want. The one thing that I'm really interested to see, 817 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: And I know this isn't part of it. I'm sorry, 818 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 2: I'm blowing up the rundown a little bit. Ashen ashit Genty. 819 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 2: I wonder if this is going to be something that 820 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 2: allows the Raiders now to take a look at somebody 821 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 2: like that. They're trying to get some skill guys around there. 822 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 2: Obviously you know what they've got they got their wide receiver, 823 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 2: they got the tight end. Do they make a move 824 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 2: for Ashton Genty? A lot of people are really excited 825 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 2: about him. We saw what happened with Saquon this year, 826 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 2: what he meant to the Philadelphia Eagles. 827 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 5: Could that be something? 828 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 2: Could this be the big thing? So much to look 829 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 2: forward to in the next couple of months. 830 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 4: We talked about Tyler Lockett potentially coming in as well, 831 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 4: to the Raiders reuniting with Pete care Bring Marshaun Lynch back. 832 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 2: Bring all reunite there. That's what I'm saying. 833 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 4: It's so easy, just take you can just come here, 834 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 4: come come practice, Let's play free agent matchmaker. 835 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 2: I feel like this. You talk about blowing up the rundown. 836 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 2: We blow up the rundown like right before the show. Yeah, 837 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 2: I get the rundowns. I feel like this got like 838 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 2: easier for you. 839 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 4: So just take the layup, Sam Donald, let's match make 840 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 4: Sam Darnald with the team. 841 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 2: Well, you guys did such a great job of laying 842 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 2: it out in the A block. Again, sorry to use 843 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 2: the television parlance as well, but listen, Seattle makes a 844 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 2: lot of sense. You got the same system. Kubiak's going 845 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 2: to be there. Last night when I was putting this together, 846 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 2: trying to think about a good place for Sam Darnold. Now, 847 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 2: obviously a couple of weeks ago, I was on this 848 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 2: show saying his best his best situation is staying with Minnesota, 849 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 2: staying with the coach that got you where you needed 850 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 2: to go. I do believe that if he is going 851 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 2: to leave the Minnesota Vikings, don't go to one of 852 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 2: the New York teams. Don't go to an uncertain situation. 853 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 2: I believe that Pittsburgh makes a lot of sense if 854 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 2: you look at a team that could go out there 855 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 2: and give you a lot of success. The Steelers, you know, 856 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 2: they're going to be in the mix of the playoffs. 857 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 2: They're going to be above five hundred, as they always are. 858 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 2: They've got a great defense, depending on what they do 859 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 2: with George Pickens. They always find a way to be competitive, 860 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: especially offensively. Don't take don't just take anything. Don't get 861 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 2: If the Tennessee Titans call, be like, yeah, hold on, 862 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 2: I got somebody on the other line. I'll call you 863 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 2: back later. Don't right back to that one. Sam Darnold 864 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 2: may be a little judicious, you know, put some thought 865 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 2: of this I think Seattle and Pittsburgh are probably the 866 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 2: only two spots that makes sense for him in Minnesota, 867 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 2: Seattle and Pits. 868 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Jets involvement in this whole thing, by the 869 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 4: way that DeVante Adams trade that pick being a part 870 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 4: of this trade with a former Jets quarterback being traded away, 871 00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 4: potentially a former Jets quarterback filling in here. It's always 872 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 4: Brian Costello tweet. It always comes back to the Jets, 873 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 4: and it always comes back to Adam Rank. Thank you, brother, 874 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 4: We appreciate it. 875 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 1: New today, Falcons quarterback still Kirk Cousins met this week 876 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: with owner Arthur Blank. Made clear that he would like 877 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to start somewhere in the NFL 878 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: this season. My understanding, however, good meeting, but the Falcons 879 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: are not budging. Still not going to release Cousins, remember, 880 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: does have a no trade clause. Levante David also not 881 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: going anywhere. He is back for year fourteen with the 882 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers of green in terms on a one year, 883 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 1: ten million dollar contract. Earlier today, while the Titans moving 884 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: on from Harold Landry, their pass rusher whos had about 885 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: fifty sacks to the course of his career. They tried 886 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: to trade him, no takers. He was due a big number, 887 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: but now he's still young. Pass rusher set to hit 888 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: the market. Breaking news tonight, the Seattle Seahawks have traded 889 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: Geno Smith to the Las Vegas Raiders in exchange for 890 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: a third round pick, number ninety two overall in next 891 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: month's NFL Draft. Like all trades, this cannot become final 892 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: and official until Wednesday, giving Geno Smith time to pass 893 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: a physical and whatnot. But all kinds of falloup that's 894 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: now going to impact everything else we're talking about. With 895 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: a special Insiders coming up Sunday night, seven BM Easter Time, 896 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: we are on All Day Freezy Frenzy on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. 897 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 2: Are you were jobbing the segment? I'm ready, let's go. 898 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 2: We're started tonight. Gino got traded. Are your phone's working? 899 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 2: That's really the key. 900 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: Us do. 901 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 2: We'll find out. It's gonna be fun. See