WEBVTT - Draft Show: Getting Hypothetical 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.160 The following. He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:13.399 Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:18.520 the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.119 for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:29.120 confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Friscope. And 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:35.320 now your hosts. Brian brought us Jeff Kavanaugh, Kyle Yeomans, 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:41.960 and David Hellman. It is Thursday, February the tenth, and 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.519 that means it is time for another episode of the 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:46.800 Draft Show, brought to you by Miller Lite. Hi. There, 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.519 I'm David Hellman. In your in your radio or your headphones, 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:53.920 however you're digesting this podcast. I'm joined by my buddies, 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.440 Jeff Kavanaugh, Brian brought us Kyle Yeoman's you know the drill? 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:01.880 Jeff was the last player you watched. What's just all 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.880 the tough questions? That's not a tough question. I don't 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.880 know the order I watch him in. I guess Kirby 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:11.760 Joseph was the last one. Who is he? H? Kirby 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:15.959 Joseph is a safety out of Illinois that would be 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.400 a really nice player in the third round. Dave Senior 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.640 Bowl Guy, right, boy. Yeah, yep, he's a senior bowl man. 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:28.199 He falls in behind the top two groups. I guess. Okay, 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:31.679 Kyle Hamilton Notre Dame, but you can't have so don't 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:35.360 worry about it. Sure. Daxton Hill, Michigan, which for me 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:38.400 is a cheater grade. First second, so somewhere near the 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.560 end of the first round. Second round is jikuon Brisker, 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:45.679 Penn State, Jalen Petrie, Baylor Lewis Scene, Georgia. Third round 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.520 is Kirby Joseph. I'm actually really glad you did that. 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:50.560 We got a question about the safeties, so we can 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:54.200 get into that in the second segment. It's not as 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.560 cold outside as you think it is. It was when 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.200 I left the house this morning. You have on a 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.240 hoodie plus some sort of fur. It's seeing jacket. Yeah, 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.880 thanks mann Man, you know, like he's doing Denver Bronco Radio. 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.040 I like to look stylish if I think I'm gonna 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.480 be on camera. Is that okay? You are looking good? Thanks? Sorry, 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.000 I'd like to take all that back. No, if you're 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:16.680 looking good, it's okay. How's everybody else this morning? Great? Great? Yeah, 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.560 nice little synergy. There you go. So all right, I 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:21.680 asked Jeff about a prospect, but what I want to 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.760 do today, and Brian, I think you'll appreciate this. Um. 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.480 This is the frustrating thing about doing a draft podcast 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:32.079 that starts in January is there's just a whole lot 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.520 we don't know about what this team is gonna look 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:38.079 like on April thirtieth or whatever day the draft starts. 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:40.720 And I think you're gonna stop doing the Draft show 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.280 for a while. No, Ill figured out, No, I absolutely don't. 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.680 But I do think it lends itself to some interesting conversations. 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.239 If you remember, financially, you and I don't need to 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.480 sing this stuff. That's a fair point. Let's not let's 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:53.560 keep doing it. I was thinking four times a week, Yeah, 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.040 Kyle and I don't get paid by the appearance. No, 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.040 you guys can, Rin and I are going to do 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.639 two more a week. Yeah you two. Godspeed. But if 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:06.200 you remember last year, it's a great example with Dak Prescott, 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.079 like we wasted a lot of breath on quarterbacks before 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.120 we knew that Dak was going to sign his deal. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.240 Long winded. Where I'm going with this is if you 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.560 follow the Cowboys, you are aware Amari Cooper and DeMarcus 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:22.919 Lawrence have been in the news recently. They're whispers about 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.360 their futures. There's some uncertainty there. The Cowboys are projected 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:31.640 at twenty million over the salary cap. Maybe they're disillusioned 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.120 with what they got out of those two players last season, 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:36.760 and I just kind of want to take a deep 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.440 dive at what that might look like and how that 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:43.360 might affect the draft. And so let's just take a 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:45.240 look at it. We don't know what's going to happen. 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:47.760 Free agencies still a month away the start of the 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:52.000 league years not until mid March, But can you envision that, 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.440 Why would the Cowboys do that? And how do you 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.880 think that that would affect them heading into this draft. 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.560 I think that they would do it. You know, the 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.360 easy flip of a switch would be the Dak Prescott 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.640 stuff to get the money. Now, figure out from there 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.240 where you want to go and how you want to 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.760 shape your team. You know, talking to people outside of 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:13.280 this building, you know there's guys that believe that that 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.760 Tank Lawrence is going to be asked to take a reduction, 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.279 you know, and whether he says yes or no could 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:22.039 very well affect how things go for him and for 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.760 the Cowboys going forward, as far as the defensive end 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.440 position goes. They've also got to consider what's going on 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:30.279 with Randy Gregory as well. Do you take that money 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.360 and then try and rally and get Randy Gregor. I 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.000 think Randy Gregory is open to any ideas that you 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.600 have talking some people once again and outside the organization. 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.920 So yeah, I mean it will affect how you know, 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.120 you've got to have a path to, you know, where 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.280 you want to get to under the cap and then 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.320 give yourself the opportunity to go get some guys this 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.839 team obviously, and the reason why we start talking about 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.800 the draft here in January is because his team likes 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.680 to draft, you know, the Dallas Cowboys. That's something that 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.080 they tell you, Hey, you know, they were glad we 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.120 have Will McClay. We're glad we have these scouts. We're 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.880 glad we do this twenty four seven. So I think 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.240 that the way, you know, once they figure out how 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.720 they get under the cap, then now you'll start to 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.440 see the direction of go and it could you know, 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:15.839 let's see what you know happens with a Maori Cooper. 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.440 You can't totally blame Amari for what happened last year 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.719 and I'll play a medal. But we did plenty of shows. 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.880 I know, Jeff and I that June conversations that you 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.880 have is over and under a Maury Cooper twelve hundred yards. 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.280 I'm you know, ceedee lamb over twelve hundred You know, 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:32.960 you do these shows and you're every one of them 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.320 is yeah over, yeah over, yeah over, And then you 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.080 get to the end of the year and everything is 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.919 under and you're like, okay, and there might be some 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.240 you know, some talk about you know, with the Maury Cooper, 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.160 he does, he plays banged up, he does go out 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.000 there and do what he has to do. There's probably 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.719 some things that happened because of the vaccination issue of 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.280 missing games. You know, that's a fair point. You know, 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.640 so all these things come into play, and how they 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.039 look at their draft is that they once they flip 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.760 those switches, now it's like, okay, here we go. This 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.760 is what we have to do. You know, you don't 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:07.440 want them to force you know, they've forced players before, 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.320 and we've got on them about that. We've got on 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.560 them and we've talked about, hey, just take that best 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.640 player and it's worked out for him. A couple of 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.400 different times. I think they're open to that, but again 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:21.240 it's about getting everything in line. Say when we get 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.680 to the start of the new league, gear spot on, 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.560 because even Stephen Jones when we were talking with them 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.360 in mobile, talked about that. The reason why they've taken 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.039 Ceedee Lamb last or two years ago and Michael Parson's 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.279 last year was because they set themselves up for success 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.760 by at least covering their bases. They weren't necessarily excelling 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.240 in a couple of those directions, and I mean in 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:42.880 a couple of ways. At least this year you saw 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.479 jayren Curse that was supposed to be a whole fielder, Yeah, 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:47.280 he ended up being an impact player. And that's the 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.359 kind of value that this front office has to find 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.839 this year, especially after paying your quarterback. It is. It's tough. 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.479 They're tough decisions on the horizon, and with guys like 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.839 Randy Gregory and DeMarcus Lawrence, you would like to bring 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.600 both of those guys back, but the reality is you're 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.600 probably only going to bring one of those guys back. 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.479 Real quick, cutting to Marcus Lawrence would carry a cap 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.640 charge of nineteen million and save you eight if you 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.800 were able to finagle a trade. It would be the 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.320 same exact number. The same goes for a Maury Cooper 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:20.280 a cap charge of six million, savings of sixteen million. 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.720 See now this is where this is where the side 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.240 which one might be going. Yeah, this is this is 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.520 where you know you have the discussion about trying to 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.560 use than Amari Cooper as a trade piece if you're 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.240 interested in moving on from him. Okay, I was going 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:39.840 to go somewhere else. But that's interesting. What it's an idea, 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:41.480 it's not something I mean to me, what do you 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.800 think you could get for him? To me, I'm using 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.480 him with him in twenty four to try and go up. Now, 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.720 the next trick is the draft show needs to figure 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.560 out who you're going up for. You know that that's 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.880 what we can find Again, I mean, okay, if you're 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:55.920 trying to help, if the if the if you look 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.720 at the first wide receiver we've talked Jeff and I 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.480 did a show with Dane Brugler had this discussion last night. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.040 Is that you know when you look at the Jets, 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.080 you know and Dane says, the first wide receiver he 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:12.120 has going off the board. Scarrett Wilson, Ohio State going 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.160 to the Jets at ten. Okay, well, I'm going to 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:18.160 give you an established wide receiver, you know, for your 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.920 trouble for you know, for your pick. I'm going to 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:22.720 give you an established guy, and I'm gonna let you 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.040 come and pick at twenty four. So you use maybe 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.640 you use that to your instead of saying, hey, we'll 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.000 flip you two, or we'll do this or whatever, or 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.880 flip your one whatever, you know. I think I think 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.480 Amari Cooper, you know, if you you know, to me, 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.640 if I'm if I'm the Jets, I'm sitting and I'm looking, well, 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.840 I can have an established wide receiver and I don't 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.400 have to draft one that might be maybe, you know, 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.760 I mean, everybody wants to draft the next, you know, 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.440 the next big receiver. I mean the league has put 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.280 a couple of them. If you look at Chase the 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.120 last couple of receivers Lsu. Both Lsu kids have done 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.600 a really good job in the league. But everybody's looking 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.800 for that next one, you know, and maybe maybe we'll 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.600 see is that guy. But I'm going to give you 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:06.040 a chance with your young quarterback to have a guy 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.120 that's a route runner, a catcher, you know, and all 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.559 those things, an established pro that's what I'm going to 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.439 try and give you to move if I can. That's 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.560 an interesting thought because if if you want to move, 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.400 and if they'll take the deal. But I'm targeted three spots. 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.800 I'm going to three spots. I'm trying to go. You 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.360 might want to go to the Commanders. The Commanders are 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.959 a team that tried to sign him before. So you say, okay, well, hey, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.280 we'll let you come up and maybe you'll feel more 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.760 comfortable about your quarterback at twenty four than you would 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:36.079 at eleven. Trade him within the division. Ah, you know what, 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:40.040 I'm really not interested in your feelings now, Yeah, I'm 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.920 really not. I'm trying to win games. What about Ravens 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.040 at fourteen? Is that the third team? Yeah? You know, 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.720 I think to me that you look at to me, 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:52.199 the spots were the spots were ten, eleven, and fourteen. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.000 I think we're the three I was looking at. I 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:55.920 would love to look at. I'm looking at the cap 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.199 situation for these teams. You know that the Jets have Yeah, 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.880 that's why I start. That's why I started. The Commanders 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.360 have thirty. Yeah, but yeah, the Ravens maybe not so much. 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.600 Just nine. Like I say, you're gonna need spots, and 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.600 you know you maybe could float the ideas and stuff. Again, 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.160 It's just it's something. If you're going to move on 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:18.000 from Amari Cooper, do it in a way that benefits 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.400 maybe him and benefits you. Jeff, can you sell me 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:28.000 on a path that this team improves without one or 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:33.360 both of these players? Oh? Absolutely, Yet it please, because 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.240 I'm not feeling the optimism. I can't sell you on 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:40.200 them being better man for man on paper at all. 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.560 But I could sell you on how in the world 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.160 could this team not block for two months? If you 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.040 have an offensive line that is competent and a quarterback 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.480 who is further removed from a major surgery then a 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.800 calf strain plus a shoulder in training camp, if you 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.920 get your quarterback back to the way we're used to 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.360 seeing him consistently play, and you get him protect did 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.560 and you're able to block lightboxes, which is asking very 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.679 little of an NFL offensive line. I'm asking you, when 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.480 the numbers are even, can you block them the last 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.240 two three months into the season. The answer was no. 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.800 So will you replicate the number of turnovers you forced 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:20.600 on defense? Probably not? Will you be better by subtracting 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:24.600 to Pro Bowl caliber players at important positions. No, not 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.120 on paper, but if you give him a quarterback back 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.040 and he looks confident and decisive and he's protected and 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.760 you can run block, yeah, your team could be better. 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.800 So willieve that when you're trading up. If if you're 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.160 trading up and you're using Amari Cooper as that piece, 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.160 is that meaning go and get in front of the 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.240 Eagles to maybe try and go get your lender bomb 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.480 or maybe go I think that would be the tough part. 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.240 And Brian tell me, if you have your brain in 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.280 a certain place when you're going up, I might go 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.480 get with those tackles. Yeah, okay, so maybe it's a Cross, 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:56.960 maybe it's Yeah, maybe it's which whichever win those tackles falls. 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.079 Because I think Neil is going to go. I wouldn't 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.040 be surprised at all if Nils the number one pick. 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:05.679 I think the Alabama left tackle um should go number one. 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.680 But they may pick an edge guy. Uh, cross is 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.920 your number one? He is, so you would love that. 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.960 I would. He's there at ten, twelve, fourteen, and you 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.280 go get him. Yeah, it's a perfect understudy for Tyrn Smith. 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.880 But can you play guard immediately or am I trading 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.160 up to Happy? Well, what I'm doing, actually, what I'm no, 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.080 I'm putting. I'm putting Lyle Collins at left guard and 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.880 I'm playing cross at right tackle. Oh okay, yeah, that's 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.400 what I'm gonna do. What if Lyle is not game 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.679 for that, well, then I'm getting on the phone and 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:37.560 I'm talking to the next team in the second round 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.640 that would like Lyle Collins. I mean, he didn't totally 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.480 have an option. I mean, I guess he could say, 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:44.720 you know, but it would be all right, all right, 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.520 then you're not gonna play football, and uh, it's gonna 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.240 make teams not want you very much. You're not gonna 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.480 play football here. I don't know. It's just it's an 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.839 interesting thought, I do. I mean, he a guy with 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:58.679 that kind of stature, with some money in the bank, 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.240 has a little bit of leverage in terms of I 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.000 think he lost. I think he lost his leverage really 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.120 when he decided that he didn't want to take drug 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.280 tests and things like that. That's fair. I think that, 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:13.000 you know, allegedly, sir, yeah, allegedly allegedly. Yeah, see, you're 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.079 you're ready to move and shake is what I hear 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:20.440 from around captain trade up. You know you do not 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:24.600 support that. By the way, captain trade up is evil, 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.199 opposite all my trading down is allowed. You would support 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:32.880 it if it didn't take one of your picks away, right, Uh? Yeah, okay. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.199 I actually am pretty happy about picking at twenty four 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.240 in this dram too, because when you ask me, like, hey, 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:39.760 if you could trade up, and let's say it's six 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.600 or eight spots, who would you pick? My answer is 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.520 going to be one of the guys I'm planning to 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.319 pick at twenty you would already pick there because the 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.520 league's just going to sort it out for me. Yeah. 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.120 Like the three names that I'll just keep throwing until 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.560 they're all off the board. If they are Kenyon Green 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:59.239 Texas A and M guard Nakobe Dean Georgia linebacker Tyler Linderbaum, 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:03.880 Iowa center, there's a better than based on talking to 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:07.520 my huge draft insider Dane Brugler last night, there's a 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.319 better than fifty percent chance at one of those threes 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.280 at twenty four. Yeah, and I'd be going up for 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:13.599 one of them, and I don't have a giant preference 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:15.800 between the three. I'd be thrilled with any of them, 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.560 so I don't need to go. But if you wanted 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.240 a corner or an offensive tackled, then yeah, then you 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.040 could maybe one of those corners. I mean, if you 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:27.000 really there's get Derek Stingley Stingley. Sure, yeah, people people 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.920 are whispering about Stingley because and man, you just freaking 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:33.120 gritted your teeth bigger than you guy. No. No, it's 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:37.200 been two years plus since he put good tape out. 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.040 I watched his tape from this year. He can still 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.200 play UCLA game is pretty good. Still, he is still 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.160 a sticky son of a bit. And there's the then 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.040 there's the when he wants to party. See there you go. 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.160 I mean again, and I ripped Kyle for doing that 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.200 the other day. But what are you saying Stingley didn't 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.440 like sports? Where you got him? No fourth round? Right? 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.440 I got him in the fourth. I absolutely, it's funny. 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.760 I'm him in the first. I think Stingley's an interesting 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:06.120 conversation because he's got top three pick talent. Sure, but 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:07.960 I could see him. I mean, he's not going to 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:09.840 slide to like I would be shocked if he's there 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.200 at twenty four. But he's the second corner off the board. 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.800 I could see him sliding. I can't. I'd sell you 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.480 what when I could be anywhere from nine or ten 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.760 to twenty four. What I learned last night in talking 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.200 with Dane and these conversations we always have with each other, 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:28.800 is that his range on Linden Bomb was sixteen to thirty. 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.000 He said, sixteen to thirty, And I go, is there 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.240 is there a bigger gap of and may? He said, 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.200 well maybe these quarterbacks, Maybe these quarterbacks will have a 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.560 bigger spread. We're gonna get to that of where they 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:44.520 can go. And I've kind of thinking, like sixteen to thirty. 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.440 I'm like wow, because Linden Bomb's not gonna go to 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:52.400 a gap blocking team, no, So it limits the options 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.160 a little bit because you're gonna have a six foot two, 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:55.880 two hundred ninety guy and you're gonna tell him, hey, 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:57.440 your job is to stay off on the nose tackle 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.680 and move him five yards. So your job is going 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.560 to be we're running stretch, we're running zone. So that 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.280 limits here. So when he when he go, when he 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.320 goes to when he goes at eight, are we just 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:07.920 going to look at each other and like, yeah, we 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:09.800 had him right the whole time. And I mean, I 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:11.680 mean seriously, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.400 goes eight. That's what I'm saying. The top ten player 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.600 in the draft for me easily. Yeah, And that's what 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.200 I mean. And you know, and you know Lancer Line 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.560 another guy. Lance really knows these offensive lineman really really well. 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.280 And he's like, listen, this is a top eight player 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.960 on my board. But but again he's racked him at 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.200 like thirty or thirty one exactly. Wow? Is that just 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.160 because of sizes? A question marks there? Oh, that's the thing. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.960 He's a two hundred and ninety five pound guy, That's 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:39.080 what he is. I'm loving this conversation. But before we lose, 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.440 I'm sorry I took you down a bad before. If 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:43.800 the draft shows for wherever you know, Brian, you take 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:48.120 us down great paths. But I sometimes you don't. I 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.680 don't get the impression that any of y'all are sweating 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:54.800 this uncertainty with these all pro caliber players on the 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.560 Cowboys roster. It's it's to me, it's gonna work out either. 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.720 You know, they're gonna do what they want to do 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.440 and they're gonna ask Tank to take a pay cut, 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:04.160 and he's going to tell him to know he's I'm not. 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.639 And then if they move on from him, Tank probably 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.720 feels like he could get two years forty million dollars. 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.840 He could get twenty million a year from somebody out there. 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.120 And if you could do that, you turn down your 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:16.840 opportunity to make less, you say absolutely not, thank you, 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.520 I'll move on and guaranteed money. Again, we talked more 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.000 about Amari at the top, but what does that look 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.280 like like? What is I think that's more cut and 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.840 dry myself, and you just get that money to Randy 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:28.960 Gregory and I think all today, I think that's the 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.240 you know, then now it turns into okay, all the 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.359 Jeff's going to give you a name, a bunch of 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.680 names of really good wide receivers to think about this 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.479 last June one him right. That way, you save nineteen, 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.919 you save more money if they hit over two years, 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.119 and in theory, you're saving nineteen this year, but you're 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.840 also going to eat eight million next year. But again, 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:47.600 I'm trying to if I know that I'm going to 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.760 move on from him, I'm trying to use him as 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:51.960 trade bait. I'm using him to go up instead of 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:55.080 having to use a pick. I think if I want 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.439 to go get one of those tackles Dane June one trade, 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.359 you only save eight million. Post June one trade, you 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.440 save nineteen Not to mention, I think tanks deal makes 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.560 him harder to move. Yes, because you've you've read. Oh, no, 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.080 I'm not, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not thinking about 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:10.960 the tank thing is either going to be Oh you 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:14.679 were talking about I'm about trading. Yeah. The only one 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.200 I really could think about was the Amri one myself. 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.840 That I mean, that's the one that to me, that's 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.880 a younger wide receiver and established what twenty seven? Yeah, 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.520 established wide receiver, trying to help a team with a 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.639 young quarterback. That's why targeted the Jets at ten. Now, 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:34.040 have any of you considered the alternative to talking about 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:37.359 a Mari or Tank being gone, which is some fans 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.480 would like this team to be all in. So I 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:41.320 went on over thecap dot com the other day. You 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.000 flipped a bunch of switches. I checked everyone who you 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.880 could restructure. I mean, if you just restructure everyone, yeah, 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:52.320 you keep everyone, and you have fifty million dollars to spend. Yeah, 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.359 it's gonna hurt later. Wow, because we're moving Tank money money, 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:58.600 Zeek money, Deck Money, Colin's money, Tiring money, Zac money. 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.320 Two years down the road, it's gonna hurt. Yeah, you're 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:09.720 you're done. I'm at your getting the lake. Yeah, you 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:11.960 would end up in Saints territory where your coach just 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.280 quits because he's like, this doesn't look fun anymore, Gotta go. 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:15.840 And it's like, wait, but you did this to our 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.160 cap It's like, I gotta go on the TV. That's 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:21.560 what you're supposed to do when you have a chance 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.440 to get a championship. Though team just won twelve games, 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.600 you don't have a chance to win a championship. I 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:28.560 don't know if they're as close as the Saints were 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.760 during that window of time. I'm just asking. I think 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.119 you could probably find a medium there, right, you can 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.480