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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys blowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 2: exploding down the sideline.

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Speaker 1: He is hanging with the boys. Now your hosts.

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Speaker 3: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Shannon him.

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Speaker 4: Thursday.

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Speaker 5: There we go a little bit better than this, better

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Speaker 5: looking live at Tostitos Championship Plaza outside for the center

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Speaker 5: at the Star in Frisco, Texas, where it is sixty

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Speaker 5: five degrees, the high is sixty six, the low is

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Speaker 5: forty five.

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Speaker 1: That is Shannon little Shirt Gross. That's three tome Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champion Naine Newton. This is Kurt one pump dams

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Speaker 1: because two punts to get you a fine. And that

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Speaker 1: is Chris Beam in the back. He was live the local.

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Speaker 1: I am salt and pepper poppy. Together we make hang

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Speaker 1: it with the boys, the sports talk equivalent the brow people.

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Speaker 1: When we speaking stop is here. Got to give a

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Speaker 1: shout out to one of my good longtime friends. We

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Speaker 1: call our cat mama cat. Happy birthday. Yeah you call

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Speaker 1: a cat cat mama, Happy birthday, Happy, happy, happy birthday.

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Speaker 1: I won't tell any people you are, but we're good friends.

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Speaker 1: So you're around the same age as me. You're getting

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Speaker 1: old with the shorty, you're getting old the butt. Have

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Speaker 1: a very very very happy happy birthday.

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Speaker 4: Happy birthday. There anybody else got any shoutouts? Anything they

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Speaker 4: want to talk about before we talk football? Cool, let's

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Speaker 4: talk football. We'll see. I brought sunglasses. They're dilated, they're good.

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Speaker 5: They haven't gotten any worse than my visit a year ago,

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Speaker 5: so I guess that's a good thing. Got me a

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Speaker 5: new pair of glasses with the old man clip ons.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so they okay, I.

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Speaker 4: Can drive with them, clip them on, them off. But

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Speaker 4: good good.

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Speaker 5: But we'll see if I slide these on during the show.

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Speaker 5: I don't think I'm just trying to be cool because I.

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Speaker 1: Can't see your pre Mexico look going on?

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Speaker 4: Getting ready?

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Speaker 1: You want of that pre Mexico look?

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Speaker 4: Looks like I'm going without having to watch a game

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Speaker 4: while I'm down. What do you guys?

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Speaker 5: Before we get into the Chargers offense, what are you

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Speaker 5: looking for? What is it a point six percent chance

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Speaker 6: Is that what?

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Speaker 4: I heard today, I've seen one like one.

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Speaker 5: What are you guys watching now that the season's basically over?

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Speaker 5: What how are you watching the game? Are you looking

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Speaker 5: for certain players? Are you just looking for them to

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Speaker 5: finish strong? Or you just ready to get these three

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Speaker 5: games over with and get to the off season, Like

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Speaker 5: are you going to enjoy watching these.

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Speaker 4: Three games or anything specific? Kurt?

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Speaker 1: You start, okay, yes, well, I mean I never really

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Speaker 1: dig deep into the intricacies like you guys do, So you.

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Speaker 7: Know, I want them to win. I want to finish strong,

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Speaker 4: You don't want that draft pick to go?

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Speaker 7: I mean no, I'd rather I think building that culture

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Speaker 7: that he's always talking about.

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Speaker 5: And being on this show and listening to these two

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Speaker 4: But we don't want to lose.

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Speaker 1: Let me this though, Kurt, because like, you're in this building,

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Speaker 1: but you're in a different sector of the building. What

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Speaker 7: For sure, winning and losing effects everybody. Yeah, yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 7: there's definitely a drop in morale for lack of a better.

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Speaker 1: So even office morale. You're like, man, hell, let's win

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you just I mean, it's just an aura

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Speaker 7: Is website traffic drops, sales drop. I mean, it's just everything.

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Speaker 7: And they and they tell us, you know, oh, you've

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Speaker 7: But you know, it affects the eyeballs and affects the sales.

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Speaker 5: It's a lot better to do it when you're successful

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Speaker 4: Manufacturer stuff. Absolutely, How are you, Nate, How are you

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Speaker 1: I'll speak up to Jesse.

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Speaker 5: Oh, Jesse, what are you looking at how are you

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Speaker 6: We'll got ten minutes. Yeah, well we'll go to the break.

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Speaker 4: We gotta wait on Chris to come back.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I still have to evaluated so to be consistent

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Speaker 1: I still have to watch it and evaluate it. So

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Speaker 1: But mister Jones came in there and let everybody know.

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Speaker 1: I will be evaluating you guys, and some of you

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Speaker 1: I'll be still watching the game the same way. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not a part of any of that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't I know what it was to go out

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Speaker 1: I hate dumb football, Like, I hate to think that

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Speaker 1: I watch football and I'm just like, but I was dumb,

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Speaker 1: I ain't trying to break my TV either.

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Speaker 5: Is there a part of you, though, that wants them

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Speaker 5: to to get to and win a Super Bowl because

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Speaker 5: you do have relationships on that side of the building

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Speaker 5: and you want to see them experience that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to experience it being here. The only

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Speaker 5: Then at what point in the season would you get

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Speaker 4: Never, So even if they win one, you're just happy.

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Speaker 4: Be a part of it emotions.

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Speaker 1: Because I didn't do the work.

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Speaker 4: And that's just because you've been on that side.

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Speaker 1: I'm already receiving in my headline, already going back you

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Speaker 5: You like being salt and peppery, not just salty poppies exactly.

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Speaker 1: I just want to be I don't want to like. No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I I don't. I don't have a level of emotion

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Speaker 1: curse point, Yeah, it is a lot more happier. People

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Speaker 1: But you know, I'm happy in the sense when they

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Speaker 1: it's still a business. Like it's still a.

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Speaker 7: Business, your businesses, your shows.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when they lose, Yeah, when they lose, the numbers

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Speaker 1: upsets thing that's across the board. Numbers go down. Now,

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Speaker 1: I gotta work extra hard to find more creative ways

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Speaker 4: So it's just a better all around experience when they.

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Speaker 1: Are winning, winning, winning cures all level.

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Speaker 7: Back when we had the weekly magazine. You could see

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Speaker 7: whether they won or loss based on our subscription sales company.

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Speaker 5: Or what I ran e comm It was like that

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Speaker 1: It does?

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Speaker 4: It does about you, Nate, how you watching these last

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Speaker 7: And so he's like that old saying defense wins championships

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Speaker 1: See, I think the thing when you have a good defense,

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Speaker 6: Well back to what you said, you said, we went

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Speaker 6: This idea is with when they get rid of evil flues,

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Speaker 6: It's a certain guy that shouldn't be here when and

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Speaker 5: We've we've we we've always we've always talked about Justin

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Speaker 4: Nate loves him.

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Speaker 5: You look at him on the field, like TV doesn't

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Speaker 5: He's sixty six.

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Speaker 1: He looks if you could build a quarterback, it will

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Speaker 4: And he has He's good. He's really good.

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Speaker 5: Right, He's got all the accolades every almost every year

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Speaker 4: How are they?

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Speaker 1: How are those guys different? Because he was supposed to

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Speaker 1: You talk about having all of the the the the again,

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Speaker 5: When I mean kind of like Dak, I mean as

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Speaker 1: Like good exact, Dak was a fourth rown. I know

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Speaker 4: Right, But when I mean kind of like he's like Dak.

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Speaker 5: It's you get the awards, you get the numbers, and

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Speaker 6: like Dak. If Dak would I promise you, And I

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Speaker 6: don't projector like y'all know that it is what it

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Speaker 6: is with me, but if I promise you, if Dak

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Speaker 6: would have had this, d would have had nice receivers,

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Speaker 6: more than nice receivers year in and year out. He's

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Speaker 6: had more than nice running backs year in and year out,

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Speaker 6: in decent offensive lines. This this kid, I don't know

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Speaker 6: why he hasn't developed because, like you say, he's a

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Speaker 6: beach boy. He the beach boy you know, and every

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Speaker 6: female oh you know that was that dude. I don't

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Speaker 6: know why he's having done it because he's had the tool,

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Speaker 6: he's had the tools to do it. I mean, I

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Speaker 6: just believe that if Dak had the tools back to

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Speaker 6: back to back like most of these cats have had,

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Speaker 6: I think he would be much further along in winning

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Speaker 6: about playoff win.

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Speaker 4: You think I think we give him too much credit?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't, like you all said he hasn't met

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Speaker 7: his expectations. If he'd been a fourth round pick, we'd

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Speaker 7: probably be talking about him differently. Yeah, he was sixth

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Speaker 7: overall or whatever, So yeah, it's unfortunate. Now, I don't

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Speaker 7: know the talent he's had around him. Dax's had some

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Speaker 7: pretty good talent around him too, But I think I

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Speaker 7: think today most people would take Dak over Herbert. I

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Speaker 7: would think, yeah, well, Herbert's leadership college.

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Speaker 4: Oregan what what? What is?

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Speaker 6: How is there?

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Speaker 4: What is their overall nate offensive line?

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Speaker 5: Running game?

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Speaker 4: And then Jesse.

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Speaker 6: Average to good? Uh? Greg Roman does a nice job

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Speaker 6: of mixing and run and pass and they and what

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Speaker 6: Jesse what a lot of people failed to realize the

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Speaker 6: last two years, they have asked Herbert to not only

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Speaker 6: move around, but to run. So he's ad it the

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Speaker 6: running part of his game. Yes, and that has helped

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Speaker 6: him tremendously to open things up for him, to give

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Speaker 6: him a clearer pocket of what he's seeing.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 6: I just think and and and this coach does not

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Speaker 6: have a problem with getting back to the basics. And

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Speaker 6: what I mean by that is, Okay, this kid ain't

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Speaker 6: having a great day. Let's shorten up these passes, let's

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Speaker 6: get let's let's make our backs a little more active,

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Speaker 6: whether it's running or passing to them coming out of

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Speaker 6: the backfield. H most coaches don't do that. You'll see

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Speaker 6: Ben Johnson do that every now and then. Hold my

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Speaker 6: dude ain't doing what he needed to do. Let's back

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Speaker 6: this thing up a couple of plays and give him

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Speaker 6: a chance. They don't put uh And I'll just repeat

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Speaker 6: with jes say he was all world coming and coaches

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Speaker 6: did him wrong by just make letting him throw the

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Speaker 6: ball all over the field and he couldn't properly read

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Speaker 6: the field. Now he has to prove the Greg Roman

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Speaker 6: into co harball. Okay, I'm reading the field today. I

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Speaker 6: got this now in the playoffs, whether you want to

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Speaker 6: let him loose or not, you're gonna have to let

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Speaker 6: him loose because team's gonna try to defend that other

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Speaker 6: thing called a run. So you're gonna have to let

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Speaker 6: him loose. You know. That's just where he got approved,

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Speaker 6: like DK that he's one of the league guys, Jesse,

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Speaker 6: we hadn't been.

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Speaker 5: Real great against mobile quarterbacks with them with him running

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Speaker 5: the way is this year, we're in trouble this week.

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Speaker 1: From that perspective, I think you're more so in trouble.

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Speaker 1: And he'll he'll break the pocket, he'll break containment and

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Speaker 1: definitely get them. He's still nursing that broken left hand,

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Speaker 1: which it doesn't matter. He was using it for Steff

506
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Speaker 1: arm a week after he broke it. He doesn't care.

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Speaker 1: He's a tough guy. I think you'll more have to

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Speaker 1: worry about the running game with the Mario Hampton go hills.

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Speaker 1: But to Mario Haampton, Jim Harball is again. He wants

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Speaker 1: to own the trenches, yes, offensively and defenses. He he

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Speaker 1: wants to establish the run. He wants to be able

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Speaker 1: to get his running backs to press the hole. He

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Speaker 1: wants to. He want to. He wants you to have

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Speaker 1: to commit more god to the line of scrimmage and

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Speaker 1: then from that use the play action pass because this kid,

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Speaker 1: Herbert can make any throw in the field. But their

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Speaker 1: first and foremost thing that you have to stop for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys is all the different variations of runs that

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Speaker 1: they're going to throw at you. Yes, I haven't. Herbert

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Speaker 1: as a runner is one of those things that will

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Speaker 1: happen if it's not clean. If he sees an opening,

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Speaker 1: if the pressure is getting to him, he will tuck

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Speaker 1: it and he will run. He's not looking to slide either,

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Speaker 1: so like he'll go get the tough yards. He'll try

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Speaker 1: to still farm you. He's not for whatever reason, he don't.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't want to slide. But he's not like I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't call him recklessly wild, like trying to run you over.

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Speaker 1: He's just not slide. He just he just rather try

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Speaker 4: And hell, if I was six six, I wouldn't slide.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you a long way down, right. But the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys have to be focused on really really really stopping

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Speaker 5: Welcome back to the final segment of Hanging with the Boys,

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Speaker 5: brought to.

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Speaker 4: You each and every show by seven to eleven. Open

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Speaker 4: twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 5: My question for you, Jesse is old man, father time,

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Speaker 5: Keenan Allens. Has he got enough left to be open

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Speaker 5: twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 4: He's been in the league like eighty seven years, having

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Speaker 4: the man with the same team.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, this Cowboys off a defense.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's got a chance.

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Speaker 1: Everybody got chance.

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Speaker 4: Talk about their receivers.

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Speaker 5: You were talking about them in the in the break

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Speaker 5: Quinton Johnson, you said, will drop one wide open, but

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Speaker 5: if he figures it out.

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Speaker 1: And that has been the thing for Quinton Johnson, receiver

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Speaker 1: at at TCU. He is talking about another prototypical looking dude,

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Speaker 1: you know, six foot five, six foot six, can run,

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Speaker 1: can run routes, stone hands, stone hands. You might he

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Speaker 1: might well have feet for hands.

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Speaker 4: So he's gonna drop one or two this week.

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Speaker 1: It feels like every week. And in the crazy part,

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Speaker 1: like he doesn't like what makes his drop so terrible.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing if you're like in traffic or you're

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Speaker 1: trying to hide pointing with two guys on you. I

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Speaker 1: mean he'd be three, four or five yards away from jokers.

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Speaker 1: He done out ran somebody or routing somebody up and

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Speaker 1: the ball be I mean the ball damn. They gotta

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Speaker 1: catch itself and he'll drop it. And that's been the

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Speaker 1: frustrating part for him in UH with the Chargers. Keenan

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Speaker 1: Allen is Keenan Allen, Right, he's old man. He's not

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Speaker 1: gonna run by you.

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Speaker 6: You're not.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you're not gonna do. I can

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Speaker 1: tell you what you're not gonna do to Keenan Islan.

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Speaker 1: You won't press him at the line of scrimmage. You

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Speaker 1: won't do that. He is one of the best. I

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Speaker 1: will put Keenan Allen. If I had to do my, my, my,

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Speaker 1: my all time at the line of scrimmage releases all time,

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Speaker 1: all time, all time, I would say Keenan Allen one, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: number one and no no no specific order, Keenan, Allen

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Speaker 1: Stevie Johnson, Chad Johnson, Davante Adams, Amari Cooper. Really, you're

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Speaker 1: not pressing them, dudes. You're just not you. You can try,

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Speaker 1: they gonna tear you up. Those dudes at the line

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Speaker 1: their releases, at the line of scrimmage. Keenan, Chad, Stevie,

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Speaker 1: Amari and Davante good luck.

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Speaker 4: What makes Keenan so good? Footwork? Physicality?

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Speaker 1: Footwork? Yeah, he still has quick feet. He understands leverage

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Speaker 1: when they play him in the slot. He has a

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Speaker 1: two way go patient. Like I said, he just you know,

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Speaker 1: just he just don't have to get you up and

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Speaker 1: go no more.

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Speaker 7: You were talking in the break that they're actually using

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Speaker 7: more two tight ends.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about in the run game. So I was

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Speaker 1: saying about that. I forgot to mention that in the

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Speaker 1: run game that they'll they'll throw two tight ends out

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Speaker 1: there and they'll run behind that. That's the physical part

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Speaker 1: of it. But and then you have lat McConkey, who

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Speaker 1: is you know, another one of the dudes. Just it's

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Speaker 1: like it's like the white guy out there running route.

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Speaker 1: He was like, Oh, he's not gonna do nothing. Who

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Speaker 1: route you up?

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Speaker 7: The better slot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you you be you be routed up Lad McConkie,

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Speaker 1: whoop up on you? And that's and that's the difficult

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Speaker 1: part is when you're looking at this Cowboys defense and

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Speaker 1: in what they're going to be able to do against

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Speaker 1: route runners, against guys who can release, guys who understand coverage,

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Speaker 1: guys who understand zones and where to sit in hold

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Speaker 1: and where to pass through, and all those other little

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Speaker 1: small details and sequences that happened in Rock Running. They

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Speaker 1: got two of the best and Keenan Allen and Lat McConkie.

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Speaker 4: What Nate go ahead.

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Speaker 6: We've done several shows and a lot of people. The

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Speaker 6: one thing that sums up John Harball's way of doing things.

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Speaker 6: And I don't know if Jesse said yesterday, I've done

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Speaker 6: some shows earlier with different people. You will see a

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Speaker 6: discipline team. You can win three games a year just

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Speaker 6: by being disciplined. Knowing what Jesse is giving you. Who

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Speaker 6: is Lad McConkie. He's given us who this guy is.

656
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 6: Who is Keenan Allen. You've given us who this guy is?

657
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 6: I mean breaking it down specifics. And that is the

658
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 6: same thing that John Hardball expects. It ain't well, who

659
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 6: is this guy. We've got guys we've seen for almost

660
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 6: twenty weeks and if I say who is this guy, well.

661
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 4: This week he's this, this week he's this.

662
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 6: I'm telling you, bro, it's something too. And they don't

663
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 6: have the most talented team, but as a unit and

664
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 6: knowing where to be and how to do it.

665
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 1: That's what they live on. Under Jim Halball, they live

666
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: on We're not going to do a bunch of herky

667
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: jerky flashy stuff. But what we are going to do,

668
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: we're going to be really, really really good at it,

669
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: like where you're supposed to be. That's what I expect.

670
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: And then if you do that and then the next

671
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: person does theirs, we'll live with the consequences. But if

672
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: we and their thing is that we don't have to

673
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: trick it up. We just be really good at it,

674
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: consistently be really good at it. And those who try

675
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: to trick theirs up or who freelance will eventually falter

676
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: and will win that battle. And then that battle may

677
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: be a significant gain, a touchdown or what have you.

678
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: And and and then sometimes you need your quarterback or

679
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: your special players just to be special, right, you need

680
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: a MARIOA. Hampton. To be special, you need you know,

681
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: you need Quintin Johnson when he when he wins on

682
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: a route and you throw them a big post that

683
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: he doesn't drop it. And even though he's wide open

684
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: by three feet and he didn't drop it. You know

685
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that's nothing special. He just outran the

686
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: dude and they laid it out there and Quentin dropped it.

687
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: So that's that's that is the way that Harvard operates.

688
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna be physical to NAT's point, they're going to

689
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: be disciplined, sign in alignment, they're gonna know what to do,

690
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: when to do it, how to do it, and they

691
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: just really bank on you making the mistakes because we're

692
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: gonna be consistent and we're gonna and we're gonna just

693
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: wear you down. We're gonna lean on you all game

694
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: long and break you. And if we can get into

695
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, we let our special guys be special.

696
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 6: Full point five rushing and I looked at the full

697
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 6: point five it's got to give up full point five

698
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 6: yards per rush. But then when you look down and

699
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 6: say they don't give up one hundred and four yards

700
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 6: a game, So what that's telling me, is they dictating

701
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 6: to you how when you run? How you run? What's

702
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 6: the situation in the game. Are we gonna drop back

703
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 6: and cover two and invite you to run? Because where

704
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 6: we at on the field, they're always playing chess. They're

705
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 6: always playing chess. They're always trying to position you. They

706
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 6: they in the last four or five games they have

707
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 6: been spot on. They lost to Jacksonville then ran off

708
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 6: three wins, the same wins that we won. You know,

709
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 6: now we're gonna find out they was our wins more

710
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 6: important than y'all wins against these same teams. Are y'all

711
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 6: gonna blow us out? Or we're gonna blow you out?

712
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 6: You know?

713
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 5: The Chargers good stat here, Kurt tied for first in

714
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 5: sacks given up at forty nine and they have no

715
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 5: offensive lineman ranked in the top thirty at Kurt's favorite

716
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 5: site PFF.

717
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 6: And what does that tell you?

718
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: And let me also just say this because sometimes, and

719
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: this is the gift, the curse, the gift and the

720
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: curse of having Justin Herbert is because he's very athletic

721
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: and he can make just about any throat that sometimes

722
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: he will hold onto the ball or when he goes

723
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: to scramble and he's running away, because that's sometimes when

724
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: you look at pressure or they held them for this long.

725
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: If a guy scrambles and he's getting away, and that

726
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: means that that time is still calculating of when the

727
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: ball was snapped to the when the ball will released,

728
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: so that play was dead and so they look at

729
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: that sometimes and going, oh they did this, no, no dah,

730
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: And it's really because he got away from y'all and

731
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: extended to play a little bit more. But that's an

732
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: issue that probably is an issue with Herbert. Is no

733
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: players ever dead with him, and so sometimes he gets

734
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: in he gets into a little bit of a rut

735
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: trying to be special and it could lead to sacks.

736
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 5: Are we going to be able to get pressure on

737
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 5: him with their offensive line and what we've seen out

738
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 5: of this defensive line the last you.

739
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 7: Would think so, But yeah, the last two weeks and they.

740
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: Lost their all World slater slater to injury.

741
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 7: What's going on with our defensive line? They didn't They

742
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 7: had no pressure last week against an average un offensive.

743
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 4: Is this the time?

744
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 5: Is this the time where you, if you're Schotheimer, you

745
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,479
Speaker 5: start Is it time yet?

746
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 4: For the youth movement or is that next week?

747
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: Shot Shotty said he wants to win, so I don't know, broh,

748
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: he don't got it from upstairs. Shotty said he wants there.

749
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: And according to the pressure today from Matt Eberflus, Matt

750
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: Eberflus is leaving the field and going back up to

751
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: the box to get a better perspective of ones happening

752
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: down the field. Yep, that's right. Week seventeen, three weeks left, yeah,

753
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: week sixteen, whatever was week fourteen.

754
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 4: Point six chance and making them he.

755
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: Going up to the box to get a better, bigger difference.

756
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 4: Will that make the did he get kicked off the sideline?

757
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. But does that make

758
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 1: it each?

759
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 7: I mean, will that disrupt the logistics of getting.

760
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: So Coach white Cotton would be the one on the

761
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: on the uh. He will be the one on the

762
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: field handling the down you know, the down in the

763
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: down out series and is out you know? Yeah, yeah,

764
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: So when guys come off the field, he'll be getting

765
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: his his call from Shoddy upstairs and getting the adjustments

766
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: on the side.

767
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 5: Even if you want to win, and that's the mandate, right,

768
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 5: That's what's been preached this week, Paulie.

769
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 6: He hes Good Fellas and Godfather, I'll tell you who is.

770
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 5: Okay, Wait, but even even if that's that's what you're doing,

771
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 5: aren't there some guys that you could be like, all right,

772
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 5: you've had you've had sixteen seventeen weeks to do this.

773
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 4: One or two spots.

774
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 5: Couldn't you just say, we will see what we got

775
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 5: with this young guy or these couple of young guys.

776
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 4: Not maybe not the whole half the defense, but maybe

777
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 4: one or two guys.

778
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 6: Tell me what young guy hasn't played.

779
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 4: That's a good question, that's the point.

780
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 7: Well, but would you give guys, especially like a linebacker.

781
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 7: You've got Murray and Wilson out there, veterans.

782
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: Would you put Marrafoul out there?

783
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 7: Did you put Yeah, Marafoul or James out there? Give

784
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 7: them more?

785
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: Do you see what they've had?

786
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 6: Yeah?

787
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: You watch it every day in practice, like these guys

788
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: aren't void of getting practice reps and playing it. They played.

789
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: Do you know what you again, you know exactly what

790
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: you have in marislea foul. You know what you have

791
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: in Shamar James and maybe Samar can kind of add

792
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: some more novel that will probably help them. But for

793
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: the most part, like athletically, in this system, you know

794
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: who you got, You know who those guys are.

795
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 5: But don't don't real time game reps matter more than

796
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 5: practice reps especially. You may know what you have, but

797
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 5: developed the guys a little more. And maybe you don't

798
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 5: know about that.

799
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 6: I don't.

800
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: I don't know how much You're gonna play half the

801
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: reps in the next two to three games and then

802
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna go into the off season and then what

803
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: You're not gonna touch a football for six for five.

804
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 6: And anyway, right, what if you're evaluating a guy for

805
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 6: another system, you think about it. Okay, oh man, we

806
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 6: done got rid of flues. Uh, we're going back to

807
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 6: the main concept and our terminology is gonna change. So

808
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 6: now here we go. Here we go now. And I'm

809
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 6: already telling you media types out there next year they

810
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 6: ain't what they don't want to hear about it about

811
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 6: the coach is bad. So you won't have to run

812
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 6: You can't run that one next year. So what you're

813
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 6: gonna do.

814
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: It's it's I mean, I know there's people that probably

815
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: still want to see Jie Milton. It's probably people that's

816
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: gonna want to see guys like Trey Shawn Holden receiver,

817
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: that guy has talked about. You know, they have the

818
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: ability to maybe bring film MafA.

819
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 6: Mango.

820
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 1: Mingo, go, y'all, we see what Mingo y'all can keep y'all.

821
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 6: You you went your name and play back the players.

822
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: So I'm just but we see what these guys ain't

823
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: played before. Sean Holden had to play before, MafA had

824
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: to play before. So we want to get you know,

825
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: sometime they elevate those guys at the end of the year.

826
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,479
Speaker 1: But I know what Jonathan Mingo is. I don't.

827
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 6: I do too, But I'm just saying, you gonna, hey, bro,

828
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 6: make it a party.

829
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 5: Bro.

830
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: They Yoash Butler.

831
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 6: When when when training camp starts, y'all, David some blue show.

832
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 6: If we're sitting here in training camp and were wondering, okay,

833
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 6: play this guy play, well, we you know, these same

834
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 6: guys don't how to get no reps because I mean

835
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 6: the Mango they don't. They don't get a bunch of

836
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 6: a whole lot of reps. And in the games, you know,

837
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 6: they may go in a quarter and they come out

838
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 6: and play the other thirty no good players. And that's

839
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 6: just how it's gonna go.

840
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 11: Does Trayvon Dicks play this weekend? Shenna, I don't think

841
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 11: he plays. This is just my opinion. I don't know anything.

842
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 11: I don't think he plays another down for this team, Nate.

843
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 7: This Trayvon Dicks plays this week No, Yeah, I kind

844
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 7: of agree with Shampo. I think that, Yeah, there's something

845
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 7: going on there. It's personal.

846
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: Now.

847
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 7: I think I don't think he's playing.

848
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 5: I think I think he's if you can get some

849
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 5: somebody that would be interested in the trade, that's gonna happen.

850
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 4: If not, I think you save a few million dollars.

851
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: If And that's why first he's yeah, because you can't

852
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: afford for him to get hurt. Because if he gets

853
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: hurt and it's a season and the injury, but the

854
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: way that his knees have been acting up, yep, you're

855
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay him that injury settlement money that's

856
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: gonna be based off of his.

857
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 4: That's where the bit twenty six, that's where the business

858
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 4: comes in.

859
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, whatever, I think he's like fourteen million dollars.

860
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: He's old. It's the base salary in twenty not old.

861
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: But if he played, it would be fourteen million his

862
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: base salary would be, and so you'd have to do

863
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: an injury settlement off that, and if it's an entire year,

864
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: it's going to be a portion of that fourteen million.

865
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, what do you think I thought he

866
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 4: was done?

867
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: I told you guys just three weeks ago. He's not

868
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: playing again.

869
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think he's in a cowboy uniform again.

870
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: Anytime you got anytime, you got to keep giving me

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Speaker 1: ramp up stories. Yeah, that's being they're trying to And

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Speaker 1: it's always interesting. It is because because Trayvon has come

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Speaker 1: out a little bit and Jamee Slater reported this about

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Speaker 1: Trayvon's mystery concussion came from him trying to mount a TV.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's funny.

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Speaker 6: Why why don't you put it on the wall mounted?

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Speaker 4: How many?

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Speaker 5: How many NFL players that make multi million dollars mount

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Speaker 5: their own TVs?

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Speaker 1: I'm always pulling it up on the wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm always interested in what in this organization want to

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Speaker 1: tell you or find you know, like City was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to tell you why he was late

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Speaker 1: or anything like that, but he wanted the world to know.

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Speaker 1: Hold liquor Trayvon could have told us this three months

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Speaker 1: ago instead letting everybody run with their own narrative about.

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Speaker 4: What actually happened, with all the crazy story.

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Speaker 1: Now you want to come out now. But oh, I

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Speaker 1: was mounting a.

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Speaker 4: TV mountain TV.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, to make a dance.

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Speaker 6: There was a hundred inches yeah, yeah, yeah, hundred inches

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Speaker 6: of damage damage.

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Speaker 4: Drop found herself.

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Speaker 5: Before we get out of here, Fellas, we lost a

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Speaker 5: good one the Cowboys organization did I lost a friend

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Speaker 5: on Monday, John Youngblood Little John Johns show, oh Man,

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Speaker 5: cancer got him on Monday. So he was a luxury

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Speaker 5: transportation logistics coordinator here at the Cowboys, forty four years old.

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Speaker 5: We'll see you soon, John John one day or else

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Speaker 5: with his family, all his friends.

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Speaker 1: Awesome preis Man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jesse, good stuff.

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Speaker 6: He's a cross talk guy. I noticed he hadn't been.

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Speaker 4: Across a while.

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Speaker 5: Hey, good seeing you, Kirk, Good seeing you, Chris. Thanks

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Speaker 5: for keeping us on the air. Thanks for making your

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Speaker 5: Mountain tvas very quick, Josh, thanks for keeping comping me.

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Speaker 5: Be back tomorrow. Predictions and I don't know what else.

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Speaker 4: Tune in to find out. Yeah, let's do it. We'll

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Speaker 4: do some calls hanging with the boys.

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