WEBVTT - Conversations About College 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.400 What's up? And welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.520 Sealer's Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:18.040 loaw glasses Malone. See this is why I need to 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.760 get a new spot though. Yeah, yeah, I'm on the camera, 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.680 so yeah, I got I gave you a straight look 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:30.120 so when you uh so, when you talk, I can 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:32.920 switch you straight up to like you, I got a 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:36.600 broad one of both of us. Right then, I got 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:40.320 you right here, gotcha? So you're the start of the show. 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.200 Well, I hate to disappoint the fans. 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:50.280 Yeah, I'm glad you California, Pete. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:50.800 Sorry. 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:56.560 Yeah, what's crazy is right? Is is like this next year, 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:58.560 I have to make it like a habit of going, 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:00.840 like I have to start figuring out how we're gonna 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:06.000 take the podcast to a visual because you're missing, Like, 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:11.319 these motherfuckers are so crazy. I don't think they like, Okay, 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:16.479 this is gonna sound fucked up. Cun But I don't 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.399 know if people are intelligent enough to just listen and 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:20.280 read anymore. 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:24.280 I think that ship sailed about a generation and a 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:25.080 half ago. 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:25.880 That for. 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:34.160 Minimum, the bell curve is now upside down. 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.600 I can't be that bad. That's fucking crazy, Dog I. 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:49.160 Don't know what it depends. I think there's a segmented 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.800 categories of the population for whom that's true, but it's 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:58.480 also true in segments of people's own existence. Like some 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:04.400 people might tap into hero what we're talking about in 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.520 lieu of what should otherwise be background noise for them, 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:12.000 so they don't really they aren't engaged appropriately, So that 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.120 can create a problem if we're talking about stuff that 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:19.160 requires higher engagement, or other people just never engage, so 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.360 they might try and they're just gonna fuck it up 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:23.960 because it's like there's no muscle memory. 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.560 I don't know. I think this whole narrative because about 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:33.160 attention spans be as shorter as fluff. I think if 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:37.440 you give people the opportunity to make information convenient in 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:41.160 shorter packages, you know human beings for sure gonna take 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:45.320 advantage of convenience every time. Like as a parent, like right, 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.120 I don't have no kids, you don't have no kids, 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:50.359 but I get why when parents are driving home and 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.640 they have they like five or six year old in 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.720 the car and about three miles away, the kids see 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:01.000 the golden arch be two miles away, see their golden arch, 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.440 and they pointing and you know, you got to feed 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.959 this kid. You know, you got to feed this kid. 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:10.000 And it's like that McDonald's is convenient, even though you 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:13.800 don't think it represents a full supply or a full 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:15.240 quality of nourishment. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:20.800 That's a perfect parallel to to to what we're talking about, 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.760 you know. I mean, I think the biggest crisis is 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:28.320 we're in a discipline deficit culture because there's I'll say 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:32.400 this much for sure, there is no conversation about a 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:39.120 lack of attention span in video games and pornography. No 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.960 one says, no one can, no one can follow the 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.000 poorn all the way to the nut. No one says 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.480 that it's always no one can sit still and have 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.640 the discipline to do what they don't want to do 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.360 at a low bandwidth stimulation, which a lot of stuff 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:58.240 that you don't you know, it would be like watching 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:01.520 a machine move heavy objects for an hour and a half. 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.280 Are going to the gym and working them out. You're 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.560 going to grow from one more than the other. You know, 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.440 people don't want to do the other part, so you 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:11.240 don't think like. 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.520 That's probably the same issue in school today with it 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:20.520 being overcrowded, like because you're trying to make education convenient, right, 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.919 so you put seventy students in the classroom with one teacher, 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.880 you know, teaching, especially in the time. When me in 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.880 Head and Salas always debate this, I always tell them 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:34.320 I don't think people are stupid. People aren't incapable of learning. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:38.320 I think people are distracted. I think people are ignorant, 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:43.280 they don't know. I don't think most people are incapable 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.720 of learning. I think it's hard for people to relay 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.680 the information. Like maybe everybody don't learn the same fucking way, 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.159 but sure for the most part. 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:57.720 So I think the reality with education that people don't 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:03.919 want to say structure. Really, education is designed to cater 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.960 to the teachers, not to the students. 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.880 What period, what run. 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:15.560 Gee the whole way that the educational paradigm from a 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:19.800 teaching methodology standpoint, from a what do you call it? 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:25.599 Curriculum standpoint, all of that stuff is designed for the teacher. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.880 It's not designed for the student. And that's that's one 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.520 thousand percent sure, because who, well, who are come? Who 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:34.840 runs education? The teachers' unions. 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:38.840 Do gotta be systems. The teacher, trust me does not 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.560 cater the teachers don't make enough money to be bullshit. 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.920 They make a pantload of money. They make a ton 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.040 of money, Yeah, they do. They make a ton of money. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.520 How much does the average high school teacher make? 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:53.000 People at least in the seventies. But the problem with 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.640 that is they are gonna make in the seventies for 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:59.640 thirty years a year until after they die. They're given 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:05.400 the benefit of a million dollar nest egg of investment perpetuity, 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:07.960 year after year after year till they die. 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.479 Is for the fucking future of the fucking world. Yeah 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:16.239 that really fag Okay, here a doctor, a doctor makes 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:17.560 five hundred thousand. 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:21.679 A doctor's investment in himself is five fucking times greater. 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.120 But I'm not I'm not even disagreeing with the Okay, 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:29.640 no silans. Well here's here's no silance hold on JL 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:35.200 My nigga Pete is in California live and we started 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.240 to trying to figure out the visuals for everybody. We 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.240 got a lot of work to do, so just bear withoos. 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:43.039 Dog what I when I say it won't to not 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:51.599 tangent off. It is difficult. Not everybody who ice skates 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:55.240 through a bachelor's degree in education and whatever the hell 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.599 certification thing it is, which is not hard? 0:06:58.440 --> 0:06:58.960 That's hard. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:00.440 No, it's not, moms. 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.400 How much of the population is getting a bachelor's degree. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.920 Any idiot can get a bachelor's God damn Jesus Christ, 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:12.960 are you kidding me? I could line up twenty morons 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.680 in my phone got bachelor's degrees that I swear to God. 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:16.960 I don't know how the hell they could make it 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:21.360 across the street without killing themselves. I'd be a miracle 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.840 if they could navigate their way through traffic on foot 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:28.320 to the seven to eleven. They do it all for you, anyway, 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:34.040 be that isn't me. Comparatively speaking, In the confine of 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:42.840 transmitting curriculum to the student mind, the lowest denominator of 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:46.920 ability for the transmitter being the teacher, is the way 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.440 that things are taught. It's no more clear than in mathematics. 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:55.840 It's here's the equation. Don't learn the engineering behind the equation. 0:07:56.080 --> 0:08:00.200 Learn how to do what do they say? Plug and play? 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.000 But that's how you have to You cannot teach people, 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:07.080 Pete how to think. That's something me and you have 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.840 this debate on the time, because you have to be 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:14.240 gifted with the ability to know how to think, how 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.400 to think. I think college tries its best to do 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.960 a better job, like from the people I know that 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.440 went to college and watching their work and their work. 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.400 I've helped people in college a lot of different people, right, 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:28.679 and to me, what they try to do is further thought, 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:32.520 and like, okay, let me further thought. Let me show 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.920 people how to think further College is really also about somebody. 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.760 Chris made a good point to me, college is about networking. 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.480 So it is about learning how to think better and 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.920 more efficiently, right, and then networking. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.920 Right. Yeah, college is all about brand association. That's all 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:52.400 it's about. Not just all yeah. Yeah, there's very very 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:55.920 few things that are happening on a college campus that, 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.800 for what is actually being brought to you information wise, 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:02.160 is transmittable effectively, very very few. 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.240 So how do you feel about college? For real? 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:12.000 I'm not good. I think that at least three fourths 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:15.920 of what's going on in academia as a giant waste 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.120 of everyone's fucking time and money. 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.959 Seriously, So you don't think college is a beneficial thing? 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.320 No, there's there is an there are there's what four 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.320 trillion dollars an aggregate student debt that would agree with me? 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.920 So then why is everybody going to college. 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:41.800 Because it's a beautiful marketing scheme. It is marketing on 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:47.200 an expired paradigm that people don't haven't critically been able 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:53.280 to analyze and understand that this reached critical mass twenty 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:57.679 years ago, and now people are just going and picking 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:01.080 up pieces of paper with no value from itutions of 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:06.880 no value, and paying through their nose to do so. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.360 And a lot of it also has to do with 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:11.560 the fact, like my big prison people like to talk about, 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:13.840 like you know, the housing crisis was the product of 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:21.400 what's the term they use, predatory lending, right as if 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:26.040 bankers were going door to door trying to solicit you 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:31.280 and people weren't walking into their bank. The real predatory 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:35.640 lending in this country is somebody from a university going 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.600 to a minor where they are a captive audience at 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:41.560 their high school where by law, by truancy law, they 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:45.040 are not allowed to leave, and pitching them into a 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:48.920 commitment to go to college where they will sign for 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:52.760 a financial document that will thrust them into tens of 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.800 thousands of dollars of debt that they've committed to as 0:10:56.840 --> 0:11:06.480 a miner. That is called predatory lending. If you did 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:11.360 that for pussy, they'd call you a predator. If I, 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.640 at thirty eight years old went to a high school 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:17.200 and solicited pussy from sixteen year olds, I'd be a predator. 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.679 They aren't allowed to leave. You do it for fucking 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:26.280 eighty thousand dollars and a degree from cal State Sambordino 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:30.800 wherever the fucking psychology. Then all of a sudden, oh no, no, no, no, 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.199 it's not predatory, it's beneficial. 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.960 So the education is not worth the money. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.920 No, very few cases, very few cases. 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.800 What if you're going to be a psychologist. 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:48.360 How many bachelors in psychology actually become a psychologists? 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.200 But isn't that a choice on a student for deciding 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:52.840 that that's what they want to do with their time. 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.319 It is, and it isn't because the way it's pitched 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.800 to the minor, when they are, by truancy law, forced 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.960 to sit and listen to it, they aren't told that. 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.679 There's nobody breaking out a chart saying if you choose 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:07.679 this major, here's what you're gonna make. If you choose 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.080 this one, here's what you're gonna make. Here's what you 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.199 have to do after completing your bachelor's degree to make 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:14.320 this in this field ABCD known. It's not presented, the 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:15.800 information is not presented with held. 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.400 But at that point, isn't it your job to go 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:19.240 get the information? 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:25.160 It is, it is your job, but you know there's 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.720 two sides to that. It's your job to get the information. 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:32.560 But also, if you're being told where's the information, it's 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.320 at the counselor's office, and then the counselor gives you 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:40.880 shit information, you're kind of cotton a rut. 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.599 So that's the only thing that you remember. College is 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:47.720 good for. It's just networking. 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:51.800 Yeah, and that's only as good as the institution that 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:52.480 you're at. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.960 Oh Man, for sure, it is gonna get us canceled. 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:04.360 Good, we should get us canceled. So half the colleges 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.120 in the country should be canceled as well. 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:12.760 Why they should they be canceled for everything I just said, 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:16.640 beat you a sick DoD dog. 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:22.640 It's too bad more people don't listen. Do you just 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:23.480 kill us? 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:28.440 I don't even know what to say. 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:28.839 Dog. 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.439 You want to know what's interesting? Yeah, Well I went 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.440 to this computer coding class. I spent a few thousand 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.040 dollars on it, so that I could find out that 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.320 I was so far behind as a technologically speaking in 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.240 my mid thirties that I couldn't keep up with the class, 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.320 so I was able to retain some of my money 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:53.280 and leave. The class was full without exception of recent 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:57.640 graduates in the field of computer science with bachelor's degrees 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.520 from cal State Fullerton, cal State Long Beach in cal 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:05.200 State LA. Everybody had just walked out of just walked 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.800 off camps with a degree in computer science to go 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:11.280 spend fifteen thousand dollars to learn how to code. So 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:16.440 what the fuck were they doing for four years? What 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:21.600 the fuck were they doing? Oh me, thirty people in 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.240 a room. One guy didn't go to fucking college for 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.720 computer science in the last five years and get a 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:30.160 fucking degree. Everybody else got a degree in the field, 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.480 And what are they running to do? I need to 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.640 go to a coding crash course class so I can 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.760 learn how to fucking get a job in the next 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.160 six months for fifteen thousand out of my pocket. You 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:45.640 have gotta be fucking kidding me. What an absolute indictment 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:50.120 on every one of those institutions you soaked up ninety 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.480 thousand dollars per head. So that they could run out, 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:59.040 throw another fifteen in the tank because they needed to 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:00.800 do something that could get them a job in the 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.720 field of their study. Man, get the fuck out of here, 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:05.560 Get the whole fuck out of here. 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.000 So, in the perfect world, what does college look like? 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:14.320 In the perfect world, college looks like people with a 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:22.440 very deliberate plan, with very deliberate specific majors, going and 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:27.160 pursuing a pathway to that career, end through that institution 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.560 by that pathway, not going and whatever, and not being 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:35.880 saddled with eighty units worth of general ed crap. They 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:37.840 got to pay for that. No one gives a fuck about. 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.400 I mean shit, the girl I go out with in Miami, 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.880 she was just saying, like, Oh, I liked college. I 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:44.720 got to meet a lot of people. I got to 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:49.000 take weightlifting. They brought you here from the Dominican Republic 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.040 on a scholarship so she could learn how to go 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:57.920 to the fucking gym. You gotta be shitting me. You 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:02.760 could have met people at a bus stop, but. 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:07.760 You don't think that has no value at all. Somebody 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:11.479 teaching you about muscles and all of that stuff properly. 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.440 Not at that price. You can go to the fucking 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.760 gym and give for a couple hundred dollars, get a 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.360 personal trainer for a couple sessions, and learn how to 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:20.600 do some basic shit. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.760 So you think the marketing of college is what everybody's 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:24.120 paying for. 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:29.520 People are paying for the brand. The reality is most people, 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:36.120 particularly when you're younger, you don't have the ability to 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:40.800 put forth something that can demonstrate your value to the 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.720 greater marketplace independent of just holding a piece of paper 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.480 and saying that guy says I'm viable, because that's all 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:49.040 that it is. 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.200 But you don't think it even proves a point that 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:51.640 you can. 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:57.400 Here's a great example of all the people I ever 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:00.280 knew in my life. One guy makes way more money 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:05.679 than anybody else. This is a dude who grew up 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:09.200 in Newport, kind of most mostly like you know, his 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.600 mom died when he was in middle school. His dad 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:13.399 worked kind of abroad, so we had a lot of 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.919 time to himself, got into computers in the nineties. He 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:18.880 went to cal State Fords and got himself a degree 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.120 in psychology because he wanted to have gone to college 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.359 because of his LinkedIn and his I forgot what the 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:30.399 other There's a couple databases and things where like if 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:36.199 you're a computer like real dedicated coder and developer, you 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:41.520 can He's never done shit site that. I don't know 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.720 what the fuck he did that for. I don't know 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:48.359 why if he paid for the education, what did he 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:48.840 pay for it? 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:50.840 I said, what if he paid what if he thought 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:54.000 the education itself was worth as much money just to 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:58.399 be informed and educated on the particular subject. Isn't that 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.000 what college is for? No, you don't pay. 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.720 That's what the library is for and the internet. 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.480 But that's just a cheaper way to obtain the same 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:07.960 thing education. 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:14.960 Yeah, there's the college is not a hobby. It can't 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:21.320 be right, should you be so blessed? Yeah, it's a 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:25.160 hobby for Bronnie James. College is a hobby for Bronnie James. 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:31.720 College is a hobby for fucking crying. So what do 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:33.479 you anyway? 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.960 Long story short, guy never did a goddamn thing with 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.960 anything he ever learned in cal State Fullerton. He was 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.119 able to put up a bunch of demonstrations of the 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:44.800 various stuff he was able to produce in software. And 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.440 the guy makes probably seven figures now on salary. He's 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:52.159 what the senior he's a senior software engineer at a 0:18:52.160 --> 0:19:00.200 publicly traded company worth multiple billions of dollars. Meanwhile, while 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.240 I was in class trying to learn how to fucking 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:05.080 develop software and shit like that with thirty other people 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:07.680 who had all gotten computer science degrees and couldn't get 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.000 their fucking a head from their ass wired straight. So 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:17.440 I had to spend another fifteen grand after market. What 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:18.240 are we talking here? 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:23.159 I'm just confused, so were the rest of them. 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:27.200 There's four trillion dollars worth of Vagagate student debt laying 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.639 on the shoulders of other people that are confused. 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.320 So you think college as a whole is a complete sham, 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:37.399 This is what you're saying to me. 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:42.879 But I think that colleges have bloated themselves into being 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:46.880 a majority big scam. I think that there's a lot 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:51.080 of agendas happening on college campuses. That is its own conversation. 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.320 But by and large, they just continue to add these 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:58.359 various dot dot dot hyphen studies all up and down, 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:02.960 you know, the course catalog that are non monetizable. It's 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:07.959 just stupid hobby nonsense that in the universities get paid 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.160 the money up front by the taxpayers and then the 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.240 students threw on the hook to pay the taxpayers back 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:18.200 on the back end with interest for what I mean, Well, 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:26.680 you learned ancient Russian history. Yep, b have a great 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:28.040 time in ancient Russia. 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:31.280 But what if that's what you paid for antient Russian history? 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.560 Then you got screwed over by somebody who told you 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.359 you can do you can study whatever the hell you 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:37.400 want and there'll be a benefit. 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.280 I'm gonna get mook a Mike, so tell moo why 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.879 college is the greatest scam in life. 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.960 All right, We're gonna try to wind this back again, 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.720 and I'm gonna try to, you know, start from the 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:57.680 start from genesis here. Also, yeah, I'll start from from 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:01.320 from zero zero. My initial point is, like you remember, 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:06.960 back in two thousand and eight housing crisis, nothing's anybody's 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:09.760 fucking fault. Who does something on their own, right, So 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:13.480 they said it was the financial institution's fault. They were 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:18.280 quote predatory lenders, as if they were out, you know, 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:21.840 creeping up on people and thrusting these half a million 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:25.119 dollar loans on them, as if people weren't walking into 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:27.800 the bank, into the person's office and doing it of 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:35.560 their own determination. The real predatory lending in this country 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:39.919 is student loans. You have people who are minors at 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:43.360 a school that by truancy law, they can't leave as 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:48.359 a captive audience, having solicitors from colleges. Go there and 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:50.560 tell them you can study whatever the hell you want. 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:54.679 Just sign this piece of paper. You'll be admitted to 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:57.800 cal state, god knows what, and you can major in 0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:01.480 Christ who gives a fucking cares and you'll, oh, you know, 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:04.480 ninety five thousand dollars, but'll but you'll have the world by. 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:07.359 The tail, the world by the tale, and eighty. 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:09.600 Percent of the coursework at most institutions is worth a 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:11.920 damn You'll never be able to pay that back. And 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.280 when there's four trillion dollars an additud student debt to 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:15.399 support my point. 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:20.080 Hey, it's crazy you said, and you're speaking on that. 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:24.239 I literally just told my boy I agree with what 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:26.080 you said one thousand percent. 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:27.800 I just told him this is why move got a 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:28.800 few other show more offen. 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:29.000 Yeah. 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:30.800 I just told him this, and this is straight up. Man. 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:32.000 I'm so far out. 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:35.159 Shout out to my shout out to my motherfucking cousin. 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:38.000 Move man, I'm so h uncle, shout out to me. 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:40.600 I'm so hot about the school system. 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:41.359 Fuck him. 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:43.840 It's hard for me to lie to my son right 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:46.520 now that I want him to do all this bullshit 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:51.399 to go. Uh, man, I'm about to make I make 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:54.320 more money doing this little Oria refinery bullshit than I 0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:56.880 ever made, man, And I don't have to know shit 0:22:57.600 --> 0:22:58.159 not like that. 0:22:58.280 --> 0:22:58.440 Man. 0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:00.360 I got to pass a couple of tests in there 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:03.040 that they make sure they helped me past. 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:03.720 The motherfucker. 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:06.520 But how many? But but I mean you you do 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:09.240 need to write a quality essay, right, No, you don't 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:10.560 have to write any essays for this. 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:11.680 I'm not not at all. 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:11.919 No. 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.640 I told my son you can ask him right there here, 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:16.159 and they're working out right now. I told him, you 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:17.680 know what I told him. I said, you're gonna pick 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:19.520 you a career. You're gonna you're gonna be some type 0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:23.000 of craftman. Whether it's gonna be welding, electrician, you're gonna 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:27.280 do something with a craft because, bruh, that school ship. 0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:32.159 You can kiss my ass a man, They lie like 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:33.600 a motherfucker. You told me I was gonna have the 0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:36.000 world out of tale. I got to do all these 0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:37.760 jump through all these different hoops to really have the 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:42.879 world by the tail. Yeah, school, I. 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:45.280