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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 3: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 1: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I fucking love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear that Birthnofia Crackers.

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Speaker 4: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artist.

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Speaker 3: Here're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Ah three hundred and ten of these things. Good to

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Speaker 5: have you with us for the three hundred and tenth

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Speaker 5: edition of the Anticonform podcast Money July twenty sixth, twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty one. Anyone else distracted in the best of ways

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Speaker 5: by Ken Flow's Red Pride T shirt. I'm an OG fan, dude,

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Speaker 5: You're an OG period Pride Pride and that's your af

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Speaker 5: dad cap.

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Speaker 6: What exactly is a dad cap?

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Speaker 7: I think it's the uh it's this little thing on

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Speaker 7: the back.

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Speaker 3: It's like, uh, it's not the snap back.

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Speaker 5: I don't fucking wear dad caps. Okay, I'm forty three

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Speaker 5: years old. I'm a dad of three. No, I'm glad

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Speaker 5: that you are making use of the dad cap because

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Speaker 5: a lot of people like the dad cap and we

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Speaker 5: have other options. Obviously at Ana florinpodcast dot Com did

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Speaker 5: not intend to begin the show this way.

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Speaker 6: But the dad cap I don't understand.

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Speaker 5: You know, I feel it's my dad on a boat,

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Speaker 5: like sixty five years old, Like half in the fucking cap.

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Speaker 7: It's comfortable on my melon. I gotta say it's a

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Speaker 7: little bit more of a comfortable field, especially if I

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Speaker 7: like I go here and it's like I don't have

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Speaker 7: that plastic thing dig it into my big five head.

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Speaker 6: You know, I get it.

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Speaker 5: So obviously, our our chief marketing officer slash executive producer,

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Speaker 5: Cody Merrow was onto something because I got to admit,

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Speaker 5: when I first got the dad caps, I didn't quite

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Speaker 5: understand the fascination. I'm a flex fit guy. I'm a

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Speaker 5: fitted hat guy. You see my pinwheel hat today. Shout

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Speaker 5: out to Wicked Tuna, but mostly I'm a Travis Matthew guy,

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Speaker 5: and it's the flex fit and it's it's the fitted caps.

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Speaker 5: But enough about that, because, man, do we have a

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Speaker 5: lot to talk about on the heels of UFC Fight

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Speaker 5: Night sand Hagen versus Dila Shaw.

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Speaker 6: You have a good weekend, by the way Ken flow.

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Speaker 3: I did. I did, I definitely did.

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Speaker 7: Got some good training in watch some amazing fights.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I know it's a loaded question when you have an

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Speaker 5: infant slash newborn.

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Speaker 6: How is Archer doing this?

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Speaker 3: He's doing great. Actually, he's growing like crazy.

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Speaker 7: The crying has been less and less, he's sleeping more

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Speaker 7: and more.

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Speaker 3: We're headed the right direction, John.

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Speaker 5: And you got a lot of travel coming up for

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Speaker 5: BattleBots Slash PFL.

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Speaker 3: I do, I do.

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Speaker 7: I had a little bit of a cold this week.

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Speaker 7: I forgot to mention that, so I'm a little stepped up.

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Speaker 7: Sorry for the extra nasally can flow here, but uh yeah,

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Speaker 7: I got some travel coming up next month, a bunch

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Speaker 7: of work next month, but we will figure it out

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Speaker 7: for the podcast.

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Speaker 6: All right, good?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I just I don't want to be insensitive

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Speaker 5: off the top, not asking about your weekend.

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Speaker 6: But there's just so much to get into with this

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Speaker 6: fight night, and.

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Speaker 3: And you had it off, would you?

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Speaker 8: I did.

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Speaker 6: Oh, it's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 5: And you give me that seven pm Eastern main card

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Speaker 5: start time because ten o three, I'm out cold.

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Speaker 3: It's huge.

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Speaker 6: I mean, scorecards are read. I'm out cold.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm like Daniel Cormier walking out of the

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Speaker 5: octagon post fight interview.

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Speaker 5: the whole thing, And as I tweeted, it really is

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Speaker 5: nice when you've been working the schedule that I've been

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Speaker 5: fighting is judging. And we'll get into all of that.

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Speaker 5: But TJ. Dillashaw returns with much fanfare. There were a

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Speaker 6: I just am happy for TJ. Dillashaw. I thought he

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Speaker 5: We learned after the fight of some of the challenges

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Speaker 5: but Cory Sandhagen is a real problem.

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Speaker 6: A lot of people thought Corey won the fight. What'd

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Speaker 5: Dillashaw's return and ultimately the way it went on the cards.

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Speaker 7: You know, I don't want to sit here and turn

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Speaker 7: him into, you know, some hero now, you know, based

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Speaker 7: was a lot of questions about his conditioning and how

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Speaker 7: Literally during the fight, he dealt with a lot and

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Speaker 7: You know, whether you had him winning or not, you know,

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Speaker 7: And I came away extremely and pressed. TJ is a

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Speaker 5: What a hard fight to come back to. And again

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Speaker 5: I thought Cory Sandhagen won the fight. And we will

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Speaker 5: get into all of that stuff, but I do believe TJ. Dillashaw,

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Speaker 3: And the hurt knee, I mean he injured his knee

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Speaker 3: So he was dealing with a hurt knee for twenty minutes.

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Speaker 5: So please send your condolences and well wishes to at

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Speaker 5: Ray Longo MMA, and we'll try to do a long

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Speaker 5: Goo live later in the week. But Ray has also

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Speaker 5: lot of our listeners who believe TJ should have had

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Speaker 5: come back in a title eliminator against Corey Sandhagen. I

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Speaker 5: mean all of that is history to me, and we

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Speaker 5: that's the wrong way to put it, but to me,

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Speaker 5: I'd rather focus on the present, which is that he

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Speaker 5: is back. The promotion did give him this fight, and

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Speaker 5: he performed admirably, even if when the scorecards were announced,

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Speaker 5: that Corey Sandhagen won this fight three rounds to two.

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Speaker 5: I gave TJ. Dillashat rounds one and three. Do you

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Speaker 7: I tried not to, you know, I'm hearing your scorecard

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Speaker 3: I had it San Haagan three rounds to two as well.

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Speaker 7: My rounds are different than yours and probably most people's.

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Speaker 7: But again I did go back and watch it a

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Speaker 7: I actually had round one for Corey Sanhagen, and I'll

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Speaker 7: tell you why TJ did take him down. I didn't

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Speaker 7: think he was effective with his striking in my opinion

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Speaker 7: had the near submission. Why aren't we scoring near submissions,

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Speaker 7: especially ones that injure another guy. I mean, you can't

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Speaker 7: argue that that didn't do any damage to that knee.

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Speaker 7: It compromised TJ for the the rest of the fight.

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Speaker 7: That to me, is about as effective as it gets without.

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Speaker 7: And I think you know it was close on the feet,

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Speaker 7: but I thought san Jagan was a little bit sharper,

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 7: And you know, I thought the grappling exchanges were the difference.

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Speaker 3: So I actually squeezed that out one for Corey.

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Speaker 5: So let me just say on round one, I have

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Speaker 5: no issue with that whatsoever. Bro Like God, he had

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Speaker 5: him in an inverted triangle for almost a minute, right

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Speaker 5: like that was the other one, exactly round one I

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Speaker 7: As you were, Yeah, absolutely, thank you for reminding me

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Speaker 7: about that triangle as well.

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Speaker 5: Acause I thought the leg attack might have been in

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Speaker 5: wrong on that. But either way, the goddamn inverted triangle.

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Speaker 5: Don't tell me ken Flow that that wasn't close.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely absolutely, and you know, yes one percent that is

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Speaker 5: Right now, in terms of aggression and octagon control, I

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Speaker 3: Round, So those aren't even coming to play.

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Speaker 5: But now Sanagan's gonna have to fight somebody else, and

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Speaker 3: Really, I thought it was a definite treat for everybody.

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Speaker 5: And there are gonna be people who are going to

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Speaker 6: And there's a family side of this.

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Speaker 5: I'm just happy for his family and to your point,

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Speaker 3: In the future.

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Speaker 7: I mean, Sanagan's just going to be that much more

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Speaker 5: Comin event, Halle and Piba over Kyler Phillips by majority decision.

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Speaker 5: So Halle and Piver, the longtime flyweight had weight cutting issues,

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Speaker 3: That Phillips deserved a ten eight in round one, right?

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Speaker 6: I apologize, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, No's that's the way I had it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he hit them with some bombs.

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Speaker 7: I mean, the fact that Piva was able to take

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Speaker 7: There a couple times where he kind of stepped into potholes,

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Speaker 7: But you know, when we look at numbers, John and

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Speaker 7: through numbers when you know, if I hit you with

442
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Speaker 7: ten skimming shots on your head, ten jabs, and you

443
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Speaker 7: hit me with one bomb that rocks me in the fight,

444
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Speaker 7: do the do the ten.

445
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Speaker 3: Numbers really add up?

446
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Speaker 7: If I did literally nothing to you with those ten punches,

447
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Speaker 7: you know.

448
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Speaker 3: So it's a tricky thing.

449
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 7: So for people, you know, just looking at numbers, I

450
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Speaker 7: urge you guys to look at more than that. Well,

451
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 7: what are the effect of those punches, What are the

452
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Speaker 7: effect of those submissions, What do they do with the position?

453
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Speaker 3: What do they do with the takedown?

454
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Speaker 7: It goes deeper than just kind of looking at numbers

455
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Speaker 7: and putting it together.

456
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Speaker 3: It's it's not it's not that simple. It really is.

457
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Speaker 5: Well, and that's great advice for judges too, right, because

458
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Speaker 5: this is what they're thought supposed to be right. Yeah,

459
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 5: in terms of the word damage and dominance and duration,

460
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 5: and there's a lot of mathematical issues I have with

461
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Speaker 5: this particular fight. So I believe sal Diamato is the

462
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 5: best judge in mixed martialites arts. I don't think this

463
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 5: was a perfect night for him overall, but he did

464
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 5: have a ten a for Kyler Phillips in round one.

465
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Speaker 5: And obviously you've heard us talk a lot about more

466
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Speaker 5: liberal ten eight rounds being gold out by the judges.

467
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Speaker 5: This is definitely something that is encouraged in the new language.

468
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Speaker 5: I scored rounds two and three for Halle and pive

469
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Speaker 5: a ten nine. Okay, you and I disagree on round three,

470
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Speaker 5: but I think our entire listenership can agree that round

471
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Speaker 5: three was close and round one was not, so they

472
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Speaker 5: can't both be ten nines, you know. So I think

473
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Speaker 5: that for the other two judges in question, as this

474
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 5: fight is going on, they're looking at their scorecard and

475
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Speaker 5: they hand the fucking thing in, and they know that

476
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 5: they're not handing in an appropriate scorecard, right because they

477
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 5: can't retroactively go back and give Kyler Phillips a ten

478
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 5: a for round one. But if you're writing how Lee

479
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Speaker 5: and Piva a ten to nine for round two, what

480
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 5: Kyler Phillips did in round one is not mathematically equal

481
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Speaker 5: to a ten nine, and therein lies the problem.

482
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Speaker 6: So yeah, I.

483
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 5: Mean, and now Kyler Phillips loses his ranking, and you know,

484
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 5: but to me, I mean, that's just that ten eight

485
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 5: was really clear, and the fact that my dude, Chris

486
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,959
Speaker 5: Lee can't write down ten eight, you know, it's just

487
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 5: like what am I missing?

488
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Speaker 6: You know, I don't know. It's a really really tricky thing.

489
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Speaker 5: And there are a lot of people who thought that

490
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Speaker 5: Pybus Corner might even throw in the towel after round one.

491
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Speaker 5: So a clear as Day ten eight under the Newish

492
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Speaker 5: scoring language there. But I think we should acknowledge Halle

493
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 5: and Pives you did just the toughness overall to stay

494
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 5: in that fight and come back and win it. You know,

495
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 5: I really like him. He's a really skilled fighter. He

496
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 5: has been through a lot of adversity, you know, some

497
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 5: of it self inflicted, not unlike dyla job terms of

498
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 5: the weight cutting things like that. But I like him,

499
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,719
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, Kyler Phillips, who was all

500
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Speaker 5: the rage going in now has some work to do.

501
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Speaker 7: I tell you what, you know, you don't perform Piva

502
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 7: did unless you've you know, been to some dark places.

503
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 7: You know that that guy, he's a he's an absolute killer.

504
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 6: Uh.

505
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 7: And and I think he should be celebrated, uh, you

506
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 7: know for his performance, you know, but uh, I don't

507
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 7: think he won the fight.

508
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 4: Uh.

509
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 7: You know, even a draw I would have been like,

510
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 7: all right, it would have been much better than than

511
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 7: than Piva winning the fight. So yeah, again, that was

512
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 7: just kind of confirmation for me that the judges really

513
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 7: had an off night.

514
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Speaker 3: And again we talk about this all the time.

515
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 7: It really does affect the fighters, you know, in a

516
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,719
Speaker 7: lot of different ways, monetarily, ranking wise, legacy wise. Uh

517
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 7: So it's a tough one for Kyler, But I also

518
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 7: think that Kyler's gonna learn from this. He seemed a

519
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 7: little too ramped up and he seemed panicky at times,

520
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 7: and I think that also helped contribute to the fact

521
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 7: that he was giving almost momentum to Piva, and the

522
00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 7: judges also look at that energy too, where he he

523
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 7: just he seemed a little rushed out there, especially in

524
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 7: around two, and he was gassed from round one from

525
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 7: you know, putting the beating on him.

526
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 6: But yeah, I know, I know, I know.

527
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 5: I penalized Phillips on my card in round three for

528
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 5: his body language.

529
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 6: I didn't like it.

530
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: You know, that's right. It's a real thing.

531
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he he really went for it early and

532
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 5: I think in terms of his cardiovascular system, he paid

533
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 5: for it later in the fight. All right, now we

534
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 5: get to Darren the damage fucking Elkins. Okay, I mean,

535
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 5: I don't even know what to say about this guy.

536
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 5: But if you are walking to a sportsbook window and

537
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 5: betting against Darren Elkins with you hot earned cash, gotta

538
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 5: find better options on the board, because this man is

539
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 5: a zombie and uh, he will break you. He he

540
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 5: broke a guy in Derek Minner who's really hard to break.

541
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 6: How about how about Darren the damage Elkins still going strong.

542
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: Dude, unbelievable.

543
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 7: I was watching the fight with with a buddy of mine,

544
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 7: one of the guys I'm helping out as he starts

545
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 7: his and make career and he goes, you know, my

546
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 7: brother's an idiot. You know, he just told me that

547
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 7: he had Minner winning bet. He bet Minner to win

548
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 7: in round one by submission. And we're watching this fight

549
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 7: and he, you know, he has Elkins and a bunch

550
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 7: of different course physicians. He's almost getting him to submit,

551
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 7: and he's like, dude, I mean he's he needs to

552
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 7: look at the tattoo. It says the damage on it.

553
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 7: One one doesn't just finish Elkins.

554
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 3: In round Like.

555
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 7: Elkins is a beast, dude, Like he is a savage.

556
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 7: Like that's that's why you train martial arts, because there's

557
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 7: guys like Darren Elkins out there who you can hit

558
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 7: with a hammer over the head. And he keeps walking

559
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 7: at you. It's like, right, you're gonna have to kill me.

560
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 3: Period.

561
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 5: I don't even know what to say, but I do

562
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 5: know that he has children, at least two of them,

563
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 5: and it's like, that's my dad. Okay, did you see

564
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 5: my dad just come back against Mersad Bectich. Did you

565
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 5: see what he did against Derek Minner. Yeah, he bleeds,

566
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 5: you know, but he wins more than he loses. And

567
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 5: I think it might have been Sean she and the

568
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 5: great journalists who suggested that, you know, when we sort

569
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 5: of campaign for Diego Sanchez to be in the Hall

570
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 5: of Fame, like, do we got any room on that

571
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 5: wing for Darren fucking Elkins? Right, we'll have my blood wing,

572
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 5: the damage Wing, the damage Wing. Darren Elkins has our

573
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 5: ultimate respect, so much so that when we do the

574
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 5: seventh annual Anakin Florian Podcast Awards next January, there will

575
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 5: be a new award in Darren Elkins's honor, something having

576
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 5: to do with his tattoo and the word damage. And

577
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 5: you've ever those pictures when he got it tattooed. It's

578
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 5: like the barbed wire just read as hell. And yes,

579
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 5: they're like, hey, Darren, do you want two sessions for

580
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 5: this tattoo or should we just crank it out? You know,

581
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 5: one layer on top of each other. Today and Darren's like,

582
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 5: what do you think we'll do it all today?

583
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: I tweet I tweeted it.

584
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 7: But Elkins has to be like a now like Elkins

585
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 7: should replace the word comeback at this point because like Webster,

586
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 7: Miriam needs to get that in the dictionary. If you

587
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 7: pulled off an Elkins, you pulled off like one of

588
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 7: the most epic comebacks in history. But Elkins is the man. Dude,

589
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 7: talk about warrior man. It's it's thrown around all the time. Uh,

590
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 7: but Elkins, it truly fits the bill.

591
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: Man what a beast.

592
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, we could even do a verb, you know, yeak like.

593
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 3: You your way back exactly exactly.

594
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 5: Look look at look at that dude Elkins for the

595
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 5: win again.

596
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 8: Man.

597
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 5: Congratulations to Darren Elkins, who won a fifty thousand dollars

598
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 5: Performance of the Night bonus. And there have been a

599
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 5: lot of people who have buried him, and there have

600
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 5: been times in the past where people have suggested that

601
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 5: they don't want to see him take any more damage

602
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 5: no pun intended, but man just puts in all the

603
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 5: right work. It was a big night overall for Team

604
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 5: Alpha Male. Macy Barber trains under that roof. Now she

605
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 5: wins by a split decision over Miranda Maverick on the

606
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 5: make card can Flow. So, yeah, I don't really know

607
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 5: what to say about this one seemed to be twenty

608
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 5: nine to twenty eight for Miranda. You know, I can

609
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 5: lean into being happy for Macy Barber because I know

610
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 5: how hard she has worked and seeing her embrace her

611
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 5: family was certainly a special visual. And I hate when

612
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 5: people trot out the lazy line don't leave it in

613
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 5: the judge's hands. But you know, if Miranda Maverick knew

614
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 5: in that third round that she hadn't bank two rounds

615
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 5: and there was open scoring, maybe her performance changes.

616
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 6: What'd you make of the flyways kid?

617
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, that was one of those where you know,

618
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 7: I think I walked away to get a glass of

619
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 7: water or something like that, and you know, and you

620
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 7: hear the decision, You're like, wait, what wait did they say,

621
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 7: bar Barbara does that? No, that's got to be a mistake.

622
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 7: They must have called something wrong. I had Maverick winning

623
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 7: that one, you know, I thought Barbara did a great job.

624
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 7: I think it was round three or round two where

625
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 7: round three were Barbara one?

626
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: Right?

627
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 8: Yep?

628
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? Sorry?

629
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Speaker 7: So the first two, yeah, I had for you know,

630
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 7: she was in control, she was landing the better shots.

631
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 7: I think Barber, you know again, kind of struggling with

632
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 7: distance management.

633
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: Again. Uh.

634
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 7: And you know, I thought that Maverick got off to

635
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 7: a great start. She was controlling the fight, she was

636
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 7: landing more shots, she was cleaner with their technique, and

637
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 7: I thought she was dictating the pace of the fight.

638
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 7: Round three came around, Barber came back, won that one.

639
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just didn't see it. You know.

640
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 7: It's not like Maverick blew her away and around one

641
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 7: to do, you know, so, but that was a mistake

642
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 7: in my opinion.

643
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I felt like Miranda Maverick's performance left

644
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: a little bit to be desired relative to maybe where

645
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 5: I think her flyweight seiling is. And I thought the

646
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 5: fighter was a little bit pedestrian. So I think largely

647
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 5: we're in agreement there.

648
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 6: I guess.

649
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 5: I just think that it's really hard when maybe ninety

650
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 5: percent of us at home feel like we can go

651
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 5: get a Modello brood for those with a fighting spirit

652
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 5: because we know the result and then you know, we

653
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 5: come back and the result goes the other way, like

654
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 5: I wonder and at Anti Florian Pod if you want

655
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 5: to chime in, like, does this give you pause, Kenny

656
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 5: to bet on mixed martial arts because I mean, for me,

657
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 5: it's easy. I'm contractually prevented from doing so. You know,

658
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 5: I bet on eleven fucking baseball games yesterday. Okay, But

659
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 5: like to me if I had bet on you know,

660
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Speaker 5: Kyler Phillips or Miranda Maverick, like, I'm not trying to

661
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 5: bet on fucking your eye haul and Sean Strickland this weekend.

662
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 6: I've had enough, dude.

663
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Speaker 7: There's no question about it. And this was one of

664
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Speaker 7: those cards that literally could bury people, you know what

665
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Speaker 7: I mean. It was just like, are you kidding me?

666
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Speaker 8: You know?

667
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 10: So?

668
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, mixed martial arts is one of those

669
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Speaker 7: things that is extremely difficult to bet on. You see

670
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Speaker 7: me eld Ken Flow struggling in the prediction department this year.

671
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 7: You know, it's tough, it really is. You never know

672
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 7: what the hell's gonna happen. Are infinite amount of factors

673
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 7: that can determine who wins who loses, you know, and

674
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Speaker 7: then you throw in the equation a judges refereeing, you know,

675
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 7: slippery canvas.

676
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Speaker 3: I mean, it just goes on and on.

677
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Speaker 5: I've been thinking about ways to modify our main event challenge,

678
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 5: right to give you the opportunity to thirty points, Dude,

679
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 5: that's a well that but to just be able to say,

680
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 5: to give your analysis and give your breakdown and tell

681
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 5: people how each man or woman can win and then say,

682
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 5: but you know what, on this one, I'm not giving

683
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 5: you a pick because I'm not gonna I don't fucking know,

684
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 5: you know, So I'm trying to figure out a creative

685
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 5: way for you not having every fight.

686
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Speaker 3: You know.

687
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Speaker 5: Get ready though, by the way, because in about fifteen

688
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 5: minutes you're gonna be picking Roman Kolo and Sam Alvi,

689
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 5: so buckle up. But no, it's a it's a tricky thing,

690
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 5: right because when people ask me about Halle and Piva

691
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 5: versus Kyler Phillips from a handicapping standpoint, going into that fight,

692
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 5: it's like, dude, Kyler's last fight, who knows what version's

693
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 5: going to come out this time, But dude certainly can't

694
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Speaker 5: bet against Kyler Phillips based upon his last fight, and

695
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 5: given how tough Pava is, I'm not in any rush

696
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 5: to fade that guy either, So you know, probably a

697
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 5: layoff for me, But I think for a lot of

698
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 5: people throwing Kyler Phillips in a parlay.

699
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Speaker 6: Had to feel pretty good that you had a ten

700
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Speaker 6: eight in round one.

701
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Speaker 5: But I digress all right, in the nature of time,

702
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Speaker 5: I would like to get to Adrian Yanez Performance of

703
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 5: the night bonus win for his workover Randy Costa. Costa

704
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 5: very dominant with the jab in round one, can flow,

705
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 5: but it was Janez in round two. And I think

706
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 5: we got a new bantamweight contender. It's the Houston, Texas product,

707
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Speaker 5: Adrian Yanez.

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Speaker 6: What do you think?

709
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Speaker 7: You know, sometimes you walk out on fight night and

710
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 7: you just don't feel great, You don't have your.

711
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: You know, for whatever reason. You know, you can have

712
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: an off night.

713
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Speaker 7: And if you have an off night when you're supposed

714
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 7: to fight, you know, bad things can happen, especially when

715
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Speaker 7: you have a very talented and dangerous dude like Costa

716
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Speaker 7: coming at you. I mean, he was firing in all cylinders.

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00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 7: The problem was he was firing in all cylinders. He

718
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 7: didn't slow things down, he didn't pace himself. He was

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Speaker 7: landing every single thing he threw. It seemed especially that

720
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Speaker 7: job and Yana Is it just seems like it took

721
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Speaker 7: him a while to figure things out, and it was

722
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Speaker 7: a simple adjustment, you know.

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Speaker 3: To me, it showed a vulnerability and Yannas.

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Speaker 7: In some ways that you know, he didn't have a

725
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 7: great way of countering the job in that fight, but

726
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Speaker 7: his adjustment that he made was huge, and.

727
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Speaker 3: All he did was just walk forward.

728
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Speaker 7: He's like, you know what, I'm having trouble kind of

729
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 7: backing up and trying to counter this dude. His job

730
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Speaker 7: was too fast. He was coming with a lot of

731
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Speaker 7: other techniques. He decided to lead the dance and come

732
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Speaker 7: forward and low behold, Costa didn't have the countering skills

733
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Speaker 7: to get it done. And you compound with what he

734
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Speaker 7: did in round one, he just he was just exhausted,

735
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Speaker 7: didn't pay himself right. Then Yanas came back to show

736
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Speaker 7: that he is not only a dude who's a hammer,

737
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Speaker 7: but he's a nail as well. If you think you're

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Speaker 7: going to go out there and take outs an overwhelm

739
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Speaker 7: him with volume or hard shots, think again.

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Speaker 3: Yanas is there to fight to the death.

741
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Speaker 7: He's a cold blooded killer, a quiet assassin who I

742
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Speaker 7: think might be a champion one day. And just again

743
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Speaker 7: and other this division is just insane. But Yanas is

744
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Speaker 7: someone to watch. I would not be surprised to see

745
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Speaker 7: him fight for the belt and even win the belt

746
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Speaker 7: in the future. He's a stud and he took a

747
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Speaker 7: lot of damage, and he showed that he's got championship heart.

748
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Speaker 3: There's no question about that.

749
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Speaker 6: That is high praise from Ken Flow.

750
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Speaker 5: And you're right that top twenty five, forget the top fifteen,

751
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 5: Top twenty five at one hundred and thirty five pounds

752
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 5: is just loaded with young talent. In terms of Randy

753
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Speaker 5: Costa and his failure to pace himself your words, he's

754
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 5: so conditioned, can flow, but that doesn't necessarily mean that

755
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Speaker 5: you can't run into like I feel like. He prides

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Speaker 5: himself on his strength and conditioning. He works with Phil

757
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 5: to down here. He runs miles upon miles in this

758
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 5: Florida heat that I can attest to is no picnic.

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00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 6: Janaz goes body body uppercut.

760
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Speaker 5: I don't know if it was the body shot or

761
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Speaker 5: a combination of the body shots with the uppercut, or

762
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Speaker 5: the conditioning. But I don't even know if I'm asking

763
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Speaker 5: you a question. But Costa prides himself on his physical conditioning,

764
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Speaker 5: and if you don't pace yourself, it doesn't matter how

765
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Speaker 5: hard you work, I guess in training camp.

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Speaker 8: Is that right?

767
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Speaker 7: There's that, absolutely, I think that's a great point. But

768
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 7: also there's the emotional connection to the fight itself. Like

769
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Speaker 7: it's one thing to be in great shape, you know,

770
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Speaker 7: on the road when you're putting in your miles, or

771
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Speaker 7: or on the pads, or even in sparring.

772
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Speaker 3: But again, we've seen it so many times.

773
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Speaker 7: I've seen it so many times with you know, people

774
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 7: I trained with amazing in the gym.

775
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Speaker 3: They get out to fight, you know, you don't quite.

776
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 7: See them perform the same because of you know, the pressure,

777
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 7: the lights, you know, whatever it is.

778
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: They're not comfortable in there.

779
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 7: So that emotional connection of fighting and the biggest mma

780
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 7: promotion to the world will throw off a lot of people. Yeah,

781
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 7: I think getting that comfort level to the point where

782
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Speaker 7: your nice and relaxed, I think will help cost it.

783
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Speaker 7: I think he's going to learn a lot from that

784
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 7: costs another guy who could go very far as well.

785
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Speaker 6: No doubt about it.

786
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 5: And Cody's telling me, Randy did say that it was

787
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 5: the liver shot that sort of spilled.

788
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: And that'll do it as well.

789
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Speaker 5: And obviously fight to fight emotions can be different. I know,

790
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 5: for you, maybe in Boston emotions were there that maybe

791
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 5: weren't there in Vancouver. But Ken Flow was good at

792
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 5: flipping that switch though. You know, I tried flipping that

793
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 5: nasty prick switch just up from off to on. All right,

794
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 5: so again, Brendan Allen, Nassordini, Mavov, Mickey Goal, Julio arse,

795
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 5: so jar of fucking you Banks in the shape of

796
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Speaker 5: her life. I mean I could spend five minutes on

797
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 5: how much time she put in to really become a

798
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 5: flyweight physically, you know, on and on it goes. But

799
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Speaker 5: Brendan Allen at one hundred and eighty five pounds, it

800
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 5: stands to reason would be a real problem. I think

801
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Speaker 5: the only thing that I could see as a knock

802
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 5: on Ba's I don't know that he loves fighting and

803
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 5: loves training as much as these other guys, like he

804
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 5: loves his family, you know, like I. You know, but man,

805
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 5: he is one of one of the more well routed,

806
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 5: skilled fighters I've ever seen. You know, a lot of

807
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 5: people felt like he needed a floor fight against Poonahelle

808
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 5: Soriano and was able to beat him on the feet

809
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 5: thirty to twenty seven times, two twenty nine to twenty

810
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 5: eight on the dissenting card No Sardini Mob Bob with

811
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 5: a nice finish, Mickey Gohle, great great UFC Fight Night

812
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 5: at the old there UFC Apex.

813
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 8: All right.

814
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 5: We will have more on UFC Fight Night San Jagan

815
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 5: versus Dilshad later in the week with with Ray Longo.

816
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 5: Now though, it is time for the Pronunciation of the Week.

817
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 5: It is presented by Candad Dips. They got a big

818
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 5: giveaway going on on their social media this week. As

819
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Speaker 5: we call on our executive producer, Cody Merrow.

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00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 6: What's up kid?

821
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 4: Huh harriman, gentlemen, gentlemen, I'm trying I might change my

822
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 4: last name to Costa. You know, Randy Costa, Cody Costa,

823
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 4: Cody Costa. You would just be the hottest trio in MMA.

824
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

825
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 5: I mean, I know your softer side. I think Marrow

826
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 5: is a little softer than Costa.

827
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Marril means mermaid as well.

828
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, something I'm that proud of.

829
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Speaker 6: There you go.

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Speaker 5: All right, So we do have some voicemails from our

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Speaker 5: voicemail line that I'm going to get to in a

832
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Speaker 5: little bit, but I would like to start with the

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Speaker 5: pronunciation of the week, if, if you're so inclined.

834
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Speaker 6: So this one's interesting.

835
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Speaker 5: He's a German fighter who is going to face the

836
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Speaker 5: highly touted moon near Lezez this weekend on ESPN, and uh, Cody,

837
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 5: I'd like to hear you say this German fighter's name.

838
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 4: East German specifically, but the way that you say his

839
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 4: name is Nikla.

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00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 11: All right, nick Less, green mask Stultze, nick Less, green mask, Stoltze.

841
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Speaker 5: I mean that's a hit for me, you know. I mean,

842
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 5: that's good enough, funny.

843
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: Mister Gorbachev, tear down this wall.

844
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Speaker 8: Let's go.

845
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 6: That's how confident I was for it.

846
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: So what did you say Cody for his first name?

847
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 8: Right?

848
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: So that's the problem, and that's why I don't say anything,

849
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Speaker 4: because I thought it was Nicklas. Yeah, he said like less. Yeah,

850
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 4: I was given him more credit maybe yeah.

851
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, hey, I'm just threw me off.

852
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: But I'm saying don the name.

853
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 4: Just like the ten eight scorecard, he wrote it. It's

854
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 4: sent in, it's gone, you know, and he doesn't have

855
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 4: to answer any interview questions after about it.

856
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 3: So there's no replay. Can we go back to a replay?

857
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: No questions?

858
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 4: It's just gone on to the next.

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00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 5: Our good man Bo Templin suggested that there should not

860
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 5: be instant replay for the pronunciation of the week, and

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00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 5: I agree with that.

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00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 6: All right, we also have a file. This one's for you,

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Speaker 6: Ken Flow.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to ask you to say this fighter's name,

865
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 5: but I pulled up this file for you because this

866
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 5: fighter's last name is yah Yah. He is a Brazilian

867
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Speaker 5: fighter and certainly resonates with our audience. He's been in

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Speaker 5: the UFC for for almost a less years. But I

869
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Speaker 5: want to play this file for our listeners because every

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Speaker 5: time there has been a Ronnie ooh fuck, I did it.

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00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 5: But every time there has been a ya ya fight

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Speaker 5: Kenny over the last ten years, we called his debut.

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Speaker 6: If I'm not mistaken, yep.

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00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 5: But every time there has been a ya ya fight

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Speaker 5: over the last ten years, we hear from somebody suggesting

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Speaker 5: that we pronounce his name incorrectly. So Cody, for the audience,

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Speaker 5: can you play Yaya's.

878
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 4: File Ronnie Yahya, Ronnie Yahya.

879
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 5: He does not go by Hanni. He has americanized it.

880
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 5: He says Ronnie Yaya.

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Speaker 6: So that's all.

882
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: Just let me yeah, I mean, that's that's the thing.

883
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 7: It's it's up to the fighter how they want to

884
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 7: be called, how they how their name wants to be pronounced.

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00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 7: It could vary from different regions of Brazil to whether

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Speaker 7: they're you know, hey, I spend my time in the

887
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Speaker 7: United States.

888
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: I want to be Ronnie instead of Haney.

889
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 8: Now.

890
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 7: So yeah, exactly like John Annick does research in case

891
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 7: you didn't notice, guys, he's not just like winging.

892
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 6: It case on practice. It's not ability, right.

893
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 5: I bridged the talent gap between me and everybody else

894
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 5: with hard ones. No, no, we are gonna get We're

895
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Speaker 5: gonna get to a Ronnie Yaiya fight pick later, and

896
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Speaker 5: I just felt like we should get ahead of it

897
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Speaker 5: with the audience and let him know that he goes

898
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Speaker 5: by Ronnie and Connie.

899
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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 5: So, uh so, Cody, we have some uh some voicemails

901
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Speaker 5: for stiff Bottom Lip brought to you by Candad Dips.

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Speaker 5: What do you have for us on the voicemail line?

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Speaker 5: By the way, A five seven can flow three oh one.

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Speaker 5: This makes me feel like I'm back on fifteen to

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Speaker 5: ten the Zone, Sporting News Radio, Boston, A five seven

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Speaker 5: on you dial, I keep interrupting the fucking number, though,

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Speaker 5: Cody A five seven three oh one eighty nine ninety four.

908
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 5: If you would like to leave us a voicemail, I

909
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 5: expect to hear from mixed Martial arts referee Jason Herzog

910
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 5: on that voicemail line A five seven three oh one

911
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 5: eight nine nine four, Cody, let's hear from some of

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00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 5: the listeners.

913
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Speaker 6: What do you have for us this week?

914
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 4: A lot of people upset about Diana Bill Betza's pronunciation.

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Speaker 4: That's what this voicemail is about.

916
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Speaker 10: John Kenny, a huge fan calling from Buffalo, New York. John,

917
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 10: I just wanted to give you a shout out for

918
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 10: using the heavy Boston accent when my boy Billy Q

919
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 10: one last night really solidified the Buffalo and Boston rivalry.

920
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 6: Great shoe guys.

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Speaker 10: Hope to hear more from you guys in the future.

922
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: Oh that's a nice one.

923
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 7: I thought he was going to rip you for for

924
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 7: for ripping on Buffalo dude.

925
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Speaker 5: Right, remember I uh yeah, I know, I uh that Buffalo,

926
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Speaker 5: New York.

927
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 6: When I said it on the call, I didn't plan

928
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 6: to say that.

929
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Speaker 5: Hey, by the way, on the breastfeeding front, on the

930
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Speaker 5: nursing children while still competing in mixed martial arts front

931
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Speaker 5: got a nice, nice message from me, should tate last week?

932
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Speaker 3: Did you good?

933
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 6: Yeah? She certainly did not have a problem with me.

934
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Speaker 5: Uh, it's she's a total inspiration. So I just I

935
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 5: really think it's amazing that a woman would be breastfeeding

936
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 5: on the day that she would be beating up another

937
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Speaker 5: woman in an octagon.

938
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Speaker 7: I think that's also people like makes people uncomfortable, like,

939
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 7: you know, like even other women and men like it's like, yeah, that's.

940
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: What they've been doing since the beginning.

941
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Speaker 5: Guys, it's a boob right right, Well, and my wife

942
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 5: will be the first one in line to give me

943
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 5: shit or be like ooh, I went on social media

944
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 5: like what did you do this time? You know, but

945
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 5: she was like no, women are full of pride who

946
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 5: have done it, husbands who have witnessed it, and what

947
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 5: the toll it takes.

948
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 6: So that's where I.

949
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 5: Come at it from, right, however, off putting to the

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00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 5: mass audience, Cody, what else do you have for us?

951
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 4: Well, so I think Kenny would break the internet if

952
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 4: he got like the fake boob like Ben Stiller, and

953
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 4: he like took picture like that, you know, for the

954
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 4: stunning resemblance you can.

955
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 3: Milk, anything with nipples.

956
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 6: Cody, all right, Cody, what else you have?

957
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 4: So last one? Then I'll get on out of here.

958
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: Hey, John Kenny Longo the beauty behind the scenes, Cody, listen, this.

959
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 6: Is Craig here.

960
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 10: What do we think about the judging last night?

961
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Speaker 7: You know, I's a better It's a little bit frustrating,

962
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 7: but I'm more frustrated for the fighters.

963
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 6: So I love you guys, you know, keep on doing you.

964
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a hard thing and we spend a lot

965
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 5: of time on it Ken Flow because the lazy take,

966
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 5: that is, don't leave it in the judge's hands, is

967
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 5: becoming a little bit more relevant in twenty twenty one,

968
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 5: right when a fighter like Miranda Maverick goes back to

969
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 5: training and thinking, man, maybe I should watch some ken

970
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 5: Flow footage and start mixing in some more elbows because

971
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 5: those cut people and then doctors get involved, right, I mean,

972
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 5: but you do. You do have to adjust with the

973
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 5: times in any walk of life, and we seem to

974
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 5: be in an error right now where the public and

975
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 5: the athletes are disagreeing with a lot of the scorecards

976
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 5: that are being handed out.

977
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Speaker 6: So I don't know if it affects change with the fighters, But.

978
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, we all feel awful for the athletes when they

979
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 5: think they win and half their money doesn't come in

980
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 5: the check, you know, no.

981
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: Question about it, you know.

982
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 7: So the other thing that's throwing people off is that

983
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 7: when you see hundreds or thousands or tens whatever it is,

984
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 7: how long ver long you've been a fan of mixed

985
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 7: martial arts in the UFC and you see how they

986
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 7: typically score a fight and you see something completely different.

987
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 7: It's going to be a head scratcher. And I think

988
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 7: that's what's throwing people off. And for fighters as well,

989
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 7: it's like, yeah, do you want to go out and

990
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 7: try to finish guys? Absolutely, you're facing another elite mixed

991
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 7: martial artists. They trains for this stuff, So you're not

992
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 7: just going to go out there and finish everybody you fight.

993
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: Okay, these are tough things to do.

994
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 7: So even for them be like, hey, I thought I

995
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 7: did enough based on what I've seen from MMA judging

996
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 7: to win the fight.

997
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 3: I should win the fight. And then when they don't,

998
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 3: they're like, what.

999
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 6: Kenny Florian, go ahead, Cody.

1000
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 4: It affects my change, and I know it affected Kenny.

1001
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 6: Indians change.

1002
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 5: So when Kenny Florian, Thank you. Cody made his UFC

1003
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 5: featherweight debut in Vancouver. It was June of twenty eleven.

1004
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 5: He beat Diego Noonez on my card two rounds to one.

1005
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 5: He did get clipped a little bit in round three,

1006
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 5: if memory serves, But basically, if Kenny beat Diego Noonez

1007
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 5: in all likelihood he was going to get a UFC

1008
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 5: featherweight title shot against Jose Aldo a few months later.

1009
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 5: And I remember thinking, like, yeah, it's Ken Flow twenty

1010
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 5: nine to twenty eight. But in those three minutes, you know,

1011
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 5: at commercial break at home, I'm thinking, man, you know, like, right,

1012
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 5: he might retire if you know, he doesn't beat Diego

1013
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 5: Nunez tonight on two of these three scorecards, right because

1014
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 5: of his back and everything else, But got the title

1015
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 5: shot against Jose Aldo and then ultimately the back gave out.

1016
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 8: All right.

1017
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 5: We have another UFC Fight Night coming up this weekend

1018
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 5: at UFC Fight Night Haul versus Strickland. Today's main event

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Speaker 5: challenges brought to you by odd Shark, your source for

1020
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1022
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1023
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1026
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Speaker 6: Don't forget the second desks. All right, let's make some picks.

1027
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: It's the main Event challenge time. It is most definitely.

1028
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: I faced f how do everything possible to win the

1029
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: main Event Challenge with John Hannick and Kenny Florian podcast.

1030
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 5: So we welcome in Ian Parker on social media. He

1031
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 5: is at Ian Parker MMA. We just had a spirited

1032
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 5: conversation off the air, and maybe Cody's bringing some of

1033
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 5: that into the show and post.

1034
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 6: I really don't know. He's the executive producer.

1035
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 5: I am not, but both of you guys went like

1036
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 5: one and six and we don't even need to get

1037
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 5: into it because there were a lot of issues with

1038
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 5: the judging and Ian we got into some things earlier.

1039
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 5: Here's one thing that I'm gonna do for our Antik

1040
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 5: and Florian podcast listeners. I'm not gonna say it's gonna help, right.

1041
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 5: I've had conversations in the past with Saldamato and Chris

1042
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 5: Lee and other judges, I am gonna seek out Saldamato

1043
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 5: on behalf of this program and mixed martial arts fans

1044
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 5: around the world, and I am gonna go through scorecards

1045
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 5: from this particular evening and talk a little bit with

1046
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 5: him about that and with some about some of the

1047
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 5: ten eights, and see if he'll be willing to sit

1048
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 5: down with me on or off the record, because I've

1049
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 5: had a lot of people ask me to do this,

1050
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 5: and I don't really know how to affect change. But Ian,

1051
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 5: like Kenny was saying earlier, like with Maverick and Barber,

1052
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 5: like he's literally going to take a piss, and like

1053
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 5: if he didn't get back in time, he would continue

1054
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 5: watching the card and just assume that Miranda had won.

1055
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 12: I look, I know, I just like, look, I don't

1056
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 12: even know how to like word this. I just don't

1057
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 12: understand how certain things are so unclear when they're so

1058
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 12: drastically clear. Like you even remove the stats. Forget that

1059
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 12: she outstruck Macy Barber in significant strikes by almost what

1060
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 12: two and a half times, right, forget about the control

1061
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 12: time when Riyah Faber is yelling at Macy Barber in

1062
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 12: rounds one and.

1063
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: Two, Hey, you need to try and hit her. I mean,

1064
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 3: like he's not saying that because he's hitting her a lot.

1065
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 12: He's not saying that because she's winning, like picking up

1066
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 12: your losing hit her because you have not hit her,

1067
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 12: Like I just don't. Like I understand that fights are close,

1068
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 12: like the TJ and Corey fight, okay, but like round

1069
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 12: four for TJ.

1070
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 3: No like no maze like the maze barbar like.

1071
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 12: And then we always scare about this like, oh, late

1072
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 12: takedowns at the end, late takedowns at the end. All right,

1073
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 12: some random maverick was winning round two, had the late

1074
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 12: take down poured it on.

1075
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: How does she lose that round?

1076
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 7: Like?

1077
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 12: I are they really going to the bathroom during this?

1078
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 12: Are they using your piss rocket thing underneath and doing this?

1079
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 11: Like?

1080
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 3: Are they texting Kenny during the fights and looking down?

1081
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 12: I have no idea what's going on? It you don't

1082
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 12: take breaks he during the broe during the podcast.

1083
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 3: I get it. They should reallyrand that John.

1084
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 5: I mean they should take the take the h out

1085
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 5: somebody actually did when I posted this on social media.

1086
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 5: If you do happen to watch this show and not

1087
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 5: just listen, I'm showing my disposable personal urinal bag with

1088
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 5: lick Sorb super absorbent pouch so you can just write

1089
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 5: down your leg while you're calling fights.

1090
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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is probably which is probably what they do. Otherwise,

1091
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Speaker 3: I just don't understand how else it could be what

1092
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Speaker 3: it is.

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Speaker 5: Here's the thing, right, and these are my contemporaries, right,

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00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 5: I share UFC shuttles from the goddamn host hotel with

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00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 5: these referees. Okay, but I will just say in no

1096
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 5: uncertain terms that it is fucking mind numbing that two

1097
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Speaker 5: of the three scorecards that matter had round two for

1098
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Speaker 5: Macy Barber over Miranda Maverick. You know, and again like

1099
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 5: Ken Flaw and I and Ian two, you're gonna start

1100
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 5: trotting our children out, you know.

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Speaker 6: You know what new segment e Cody.

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Speaker 5: You know we're gonna have Riley fucking Annex scoring fights.

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00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 5: She's nine, you know, and she'll be aligned with you Ian,

1104
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Speaker 5: you know so.

1105
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 3: But I mean, but like.

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Speaker 12: I'll give you an example, right, I have I have,

1107
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 12: I know people friends of mine that have started watching

1108
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 12: this sport because they've seen me now on here and

1109
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 12: other things, and like I will get like even on Twitter,

1110
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 12: people will be like, how is this possible. You know,

1111
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 12: it's not even on the betting side of it. These careers.

1112
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 12: This is the only sport well outside of box. But

1113
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 12: the show win rate is not very large for someone

1114
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 12: like Mirando Maverick. Like this is someone who if they said,

1115
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 12: all right, we're paying you, and I'm not gonna get

1116
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 12: into fighter pay, like I'm definitely not.

1117
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 3: Going that way.

1118
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 12: But like if she came into the UFC the way

1119
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 12: people go into the NFL, like the backup placeholder is

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Speaker 12: making six hundred thousand, Like had I known.

1121
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 3: That, I would have learn how to hold the ball

1122
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 3: way better. Right, you get paid like insane.

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Speaker 12: But like someone like Miranda Maverick, who's in school doing

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00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 12: all this is probably now a fallback, loses a ton

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Speaker 12: of money, probably makes next to nothing off this because

1126
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 12: of two people that probably were not watching as they should.

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00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 12: I guess, I mean, how else do you how else

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00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 12: do you explain that? Like John, if this shit was close,

1129
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 12: I wouldn't be talking.

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Speaker 5: It's too close, Well, wach and if she's making thirty

1131
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 5: and thirty, she goes home with thirty instead of sixty

1132
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 5: net fucking seventeen.

1133
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 3: Or whatever minus taxes, coaches.

1134
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 6: If I'm a fighter I'm screaming from the rooftops, give

1135
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 6: me open score.

1136
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 5: You know, let me know after round two that the

1137
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 5: judges took a piss during round two and that as such,

1138
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 5: I'm not winning.

1139
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 3: But that that helps. But that's only like a bad judging,

1140
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1141
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 7: It's just like, yes, that helps, but it's it's like

1142
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 7: the judges should be able to do their jobs.

1143
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 3: That's like that's like, yeah, stop jobbing, you know what

1144
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 3: I mean. I agree with.

1145
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 12: You, but yeah, yeah, but I'm saying, like, how do

1146
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 12: you if you're Mirandom Maverick and you're going into that

1147
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 12: third round and now all of a sudden you're down

1148
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 12: to nothing, You're down do nothing? How she's not but

1149
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 12: that a whole But that changes the way she fights

1150
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 12: now because that's not and she shouldn't have to be

1151
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 12: forced to her back against the wall when he's clearly winning.

1152
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 12: What Kenny and I are trying to say, and I

1153
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 12: know you're saying this, is that how has the I

1154
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 12: know this is not Dana White. People that blame the

1155
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 12: UFC and Dana White for this, like just you got

1156
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 12: to do your research. It has nothing to do with him.

1157
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 12: It's the athletic Commission of the state. But how the

1158
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 12: Athletic commission not fine like the referees in the NFL.

1159
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 12: I think Cody brought this up.

1160
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 8: He did.

1161
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 12: They get fined, right, referees get fought like. There has

1162
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 12: to be some sort of repercussions. It has to be

1163
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 12: some sort of anything, because if you are blowing, this

1164
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 12: is blowing people's careers. In the NFL, if you make

1165
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 12: a bad call, it affects the whole team. These guys

1166
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 12: come back the next week, they're still making millions endorsements.

1167
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 12: Miranda Maverick to the casual fan, people are like, all right,

1168
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 12: so we'll just see the next person.

1169
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 3: You know.

1170
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's hard, and you're wise to acknowledge that

1171
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 5: it is not the UFC. Right, Let's say Dana White

1172
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 5: wanted to get verdict MMA and use the Global Scorecard

1173
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 5: to determine winners of fights. It's not his jurisdiction. It's

1174
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 5: under the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

1175
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 6: That wouldn't fly.

1176
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 5: But yes, we've had long conversations about five or seven

1177
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 5: judges versus three.

1178
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,959
Speaker 6: I do believe if you were to pull a group of.

1179
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 5: One thousand qualified MMA minds, former UFC fighters who are

1180
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 5: agenda lists or whatever that pool was, more often than not,

1181
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 5: we would get the accurate winner more than the three

1182
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 5: scorecards that we are employing.

1183
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 3: But uh, John, I wouldn't even.

1184
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 12: Do UFC fires because I think you're gonna have some

1185
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 12: bias at that point too too many.

1186
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, But anyway, the the there's there's a lot of

1187
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 5: there's a lot of issues with though and hey and Kenny,

1188
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 5: I understand the counter argument to open scoring and Ian

1189
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 5: as well, Like I totally understand that it effectively changes

1190
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 5: the sport. So I'm not are you texting and I

1191
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 5: start talking to this guy's fucking texting. I'm just saying

1192
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 5: I understand the arguments against open scoring.

1193
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 6: That it That's what I do.

1194
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 5: I call everybody out, you know, and to people have

1195
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 5: vurying degrees of sensitivity. Notice how long Ago is starting

1196
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 5: to call me out on the show. It's like, anybody

1197
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 5: can call me out anytime.

1198
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 3: You know. I wouldn't do that as your show. I

1199
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Speaker 3: would never do.

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Speaker 6: That to show. That's the thing. It's like she wants.

1201
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 5: Cody has said to me privately, like I wish these

1202
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 5: guys would fucking knock your balls around the way you

1203
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,479
Speaker 5: bust their chops, you know, because he thinks it would

1204
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 5: help the show, so have had it. I'm an easy target.

1205
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 5: Just ask my children, you know, they're like, dude, look

1206
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 5: at your eyebrows, Like if your eyebrow is going to

1207
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 5: be one by the time you wake up tomorrow.

1208
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 12: Well, to be fair, you wear your hat like like

1209
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 12: I did in college.

1210
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 6: I came in see rock.

1211
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Speaker 8: I know.

1212
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 5: I know that's because I'm stone this morning, all right,

1213
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Speaker 5: shocker At middleweight guys Roman Koppolov minus two fifty versus

1214
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 5: Sam Alvi plus two hundred. Ken Full wanted to make

1215
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 5: a pick on this fight because it is Sam Alvi's

1216
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 5: fiftieth pro mma contest, and we wanted to acknowledge as much.

1217
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 5: So Kopolov eight and one. He's zero and one in

1218
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 5: the UFC. He's had four fights canceled in the UFC.

1219
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 5: Alvi on the other side, of course, Shawn Stricklan's teammate.

1220
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 5: Ian last win came by split decision over John Balonte

1221
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 5: in twenty eighteen, but he has been competitive at times

1222
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 5: in recent outings. What do you think of Alvi here

1223
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 5: as the two to one or so dog against Koppolov.

1224
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 12: I can't take Alvi here. Unfortunately, his style is his style.

1225
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 12: It's go harder, go home, hit a home runner.

1226
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 5: Not.

1227
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 12: The question is can he pull a Darren Elkins almost?

1228
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 12: That's who I compare him to. Can he weather the storm,

1229
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 12: take the damage, and out last the other guy and

1230
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 12: get them tired? Almost rope adope, because what Elkins does

1231
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 12: he literally is like, listen, you can do ten six

1232
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 12: me in the first round, I'm gonna win rounds two

1233
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 12: or three because you're gonna gas out trying. I just

1234
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 12: don't see Koplov doing that, so I'm gonna go with

1235
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 12: him here.

1236
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 5: I may need to get a Darren Elkins autograph, Kenny,

1237
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 5: I don't even collect autographs. I have a ken Flow

1238
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 5: autograph right over there, but I don't like I don't

1239
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 5: have autographs.

1240
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 6: I don't seek autographs.

1241
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 5: I want it to hearn Elkins autograh, Like I need

1242
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 5: him to sign a picture of himself just covered in blood,

1243
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 5: ken flu. What do you have for us on smiling

1244
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 5: Sam Alvi and Roman Koppolov?

1245
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you.

1246
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 7: Know, listen, I agree with Ian I think that you know,

1247
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 7: and Alvi in some ways is most dangerous when he's

1248
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 7: kind of ropodoping and to a certain extent, he'll back

1249
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 7: himself up against the cage, you know, kind of look

1250
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 7: like he's not doing.

1251
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 3: Anything, and I'll try to crack you on the way in.

1252
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 7: And if Copolov, you know, did his homework, which he

1253
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 7: should have, he's got to be most careful as he backs.

1254
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 3: Him up up against the cage.

1255
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 7: But yeah, I do think Copolof, you know, has a

1256
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 7: lot of a lot of advantages in this fight.

1257
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 3: I think he's the fresher guy.

1258
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 7: Certainly a big fan of sam alvi uh, but I

1259
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 7: think Copoloff takes the win here.

1260
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 5: It seemed as though at one point sam alb thought

1261
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 5: he was the komine. Event I know this fight card

1262
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 5: in terms of the bout order has been moved around

1263
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 5: a little bit, but that is not the komain. That's

1264
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 5: another heavyweight fight which we will get to in a minute.

1265
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 5: I want to get to this one though, fellas between

1266
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 5: Kyung Ho Kong minus one forty and Roni Yaya, who

1267
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 5: is plus one twenty. So Kenny may remember this, we

1268
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 5: called Kyung Ho Kong's UFC debut. It was March of

1269
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 5: twenty thirteen, Syama, Japan. I missed my flight to Tokyo,

1270
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 5: ken flow had to end see the way in. But

1271
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 5: I remember Sean Shelby in our Fighter meeting talking about

1272
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 5: Kyung Ho Kong all the way back when, and now

1273
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 5: he's got more momentum than he's ever had in the UFC. Kenny,

1274
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 5: he's won three in a row, all of those wins

1275
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 5: in twenty nineteen hasn't competed in this COVID nineteen climate.

1276
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 5: So what do you think about Yong Hong Kong here

1277
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 5: ending an eighteen month layoff against the well traveled Ronnie

1278
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 5: ya Ya.

1279
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 3: You know, listen, I think it's a tough kid.

1280
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 7: I think he has had some close fights in the UFC.

1281
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 3: I think that.

1282
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 7: I don't know though, if he has the skills to

1283
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 7: get out of the round, if Ronnie's able to take

1284
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 7: him down.

1285
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 3: You know, I think Ronnie has a lot of firepower

1286
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 3: on the ground.

1287
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 7: He's very aggressive, especially as in regards to taking a

1288
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 7: back and attacking guillotines and things.

1289
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 3: You know, we don't see Ronnie that consistently.

1290
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 7: We don't see him on a regular basis, it seems

1291
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 7: these days.

1292
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 3: But I like his chances here. He's a slight underdog.

1293
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with ya.

1294
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 5: Ya Ronnie ya Ya has been on the roster for

1295
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 5: more than ten years. UFC debut was January twenty eleven,

1296
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 5: a win over the legend Mike Brown, one of his

1297
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 5: twelve UFC wins. That is as many as Kenny Orion.

1298
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 5: By the way, twelve wins, Ken flows winning percentage a

1299
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 5: little bit better. But hey, you know, all.

1300
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 6: Right, what do you got?

1301
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 5: Jaya kyung Ho kong Ian Ronni Yaya coming off the

1302
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 5: submission win over Ray Rodriguez back in March, I.

1303
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 12: Was just waiting for all the Kenny floor and accolades

1304
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 12: and parade to end before.

1305
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 6: We got to the h I mean, I'm just exciting

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Speaker 6: my office. That's exciting fight.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, let's bring out the trombones for Kenny real quick.

1308
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 12: I had it for kick Cope. So look, I still

1309
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 12: one day you're gonna have to tell me how that

1310
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 12: fight came about. I still don't understand how his team

1311
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 12: ever thought that was a good idea.

1312
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 7: The locker room for the left for tow two sixty four,

1313
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 7: we were in the same locker room together.

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Speaker 3: It was pretty funny.

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Speaker 12: But she's still oh, he's still oh, he's still coaching

1316
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Speaker 12: and stuff.

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00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 3: He's still coaching. Yeah, Jape.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, who was he there with? Who was he

1319
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 6: there with?

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Speaker 3: He was he cornered a Jessica?

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Speaker 5: I yeah, team ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 8: All right?

1323
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 3: Sorry, I do like I like Ronni Yaya here.

1324
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 12: Also, I think to Kenny's point, I know, I listen,

1325
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 12: I write my picks down before we even do this.

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01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 12: You know, guys, his opponent's been out for way too long,

1327
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 12: not fighting that COVID climate. And I think with Yaya also,

1328
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 12: his striking has gotten better. You know, he's not just

1329
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 12: throwing and get the takedown. He's actually staying composed. He

1330
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 12: hits pretty hard, and I think he throws people off.

1331
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 12: And once he gets on the ground, he is so

1332
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 12: so tricky, you know, he goes the only thing I will.

1333
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 3: Say, though, and this is driving me crazy.

1334
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 12: And Kenny is a Brazilian you get to expert, probably

1335
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 12: feels this.

1336
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 3: Could these guys.

1337
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 12: Stop jumping guillotine and losing position in every single scramble

1338
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 12: in the UFC. I mean, you know, you ever heard

1339
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 12: James Kraus yelling to Minter, don't jump it, don't jump it.

1340
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 3: He jumped it, he lost stopped your being a guillotine.

1341
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 3: It's in the first thirty seconds when you're dry as

1342
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 3: a bone, fine.

1343
01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 12: Like when you're sweaty, even like the slightest bit stopped, especially.

1344
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 3: With the arm man, man, it's hard for hard to finish.

1345
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 12: So yeah, oh man, I mean yeah, I wasn't going

1346
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 12: to say that you made me sound smarter there, but yeah, no,

1347
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 12: totally with the arm men.

1348
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm going roddy y aaya.

1349
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 6: My comin event was to go down last Saturday.

1350
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 5: Instead it gets a one week delay and a far

1351
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,439
Speaker 5: more prominent placement on the fight cod at heavyweight Chris

1352
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 5: Dacas minus one ninety five Shamil Abdurahimab plus one sixty

1353
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 5: five will need the round, the method of victory and

1354
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 5: all that Ian Parker comine event. Doccas has done some

1355
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 5: good things thus far three and oero in the UFC.

1356
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 5: How do he handicap this one against the returning Shemil

1357
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 5: Abduahima Shmiel's.

1358
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 3: I think being a little undervalued here.

1359
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 12: It doesn't mean I'm going to go that way, but again,

1360
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 12: but he loses to guys I think that are better athletes, faster,

1361
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 12: punk faster power punchers in the heavyweight division, and I

1362
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 12: think Doccas has been surprisingly very very good and being composed.

1363
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 3: Not just going for the knockout.

1364
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 12: I think when he's just flowing with his punches and

1365
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 12: moving forward and using angles his athleticism, I think is

1366
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 12: quite sneaky, and I think he gets to win. Heresh

1367
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 12: Shamil is not the easiest person to put out, and

1368
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 12: I haven't seen Dawcas really go right go past the

1369
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 12: first round yet, So I'm going to roll the dice

1370
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 12: and say he wins by TKO in round one. But

1371
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 12: if he doesn't, I'm curious to see against adversity and

1372
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 12: cardio where he's at.

1373
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 3: So for now I'm going to go that way.

1374
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 5: You're right, Doccas is a sneaky athlete and physically getting

1375
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 5: better every day, trying to move to four and oh

1376
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 5: in the UFC here against Shamil Abdurahimov, who is back

1377
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 5: for the first time in a long time. Last appearance

1378
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 5: of lost to Curtis Blades. I believe you have see

1379
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 5: two forty two, So that was September twenty nineteen. Four

1380
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 5: times Chamil Abduahimov was scheduled to fight Seattle Gone in

1381
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four. Times it might be a blessing in

1382
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,919
Speaker 5: disguise that you avoided Seattle, Gon. Visa issues also forced

1383
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 5: him out of a fight earlier this year against Augusto Sakai.

1384
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 5: So hard to know which version of Abduahimov shows up here.

1385
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 5: What do you think can flow Doacas or Shamil for you?

1386
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 7: Oh Man, Shamiel's got a great name. I love Shamil Abdurahimov,

1387
01:02:55,640 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 7: great name. However, I do think that, you know, he

1388
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 7: doesn't quite have those finishing skills, and I think that's

1389
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 7: one thing that is kind of preventing me from picking

1390
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 7: him as an underdog. I think Chris Doccas has a

1391
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 7: lot of firepower. He's very aggressive. You know he's going

1392
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 7: to bring the fight to ub durahem Off. I don't

1393
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 7: think Abdurahimoff has you know, the takedown game or you know,

1394
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 7: a dangerous striking game that's going to prevent Doccas from

1395
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 7: just coming forward and taking advantage of them.

1396
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 3: So I like Doccas here. I'll take him by decision.

1397
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 5: Chris Doccas not to be confused with Kyle Doccas, by

1398
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 5: decision to pick to click for Ken Floorer. I may

1399
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 5: have had a midway first UFC headlining spot for Sean

1400
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 5: Strickland deservedly so he's the modest two twenty favorite against

1401
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 5: Uriah Hall, I mean deservedly so that he's getting the

1402
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 5: main event, not necessarily that he's getting this type of

1403
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 5: respect from Las Vegas. I'm gonna be noncommittal there. Uriah Hall,

1404
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 5: though plus one eighty Hall number eight in the world.

1405
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 5: He has won four in a row to vault into contention.

1406
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 5: Strickland's also won four in a row ian and he's

1407
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 5: twenty three and three. I just think an underappreciated UFC

1408
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 5: athlete Sean Strickland twenty fights over five hundred, trying to

1409
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 5: move into the top ten with a win. Here ip

1410
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 5: who wins the UFC Fight Night main events.

1411
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 3: So I can only tell the future that easy.

1412
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 9: Right.

1413
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 12: Here's my questionable thing with Sean Strickland. So his fight

1414
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 12: style used to be a lot different. It used to

1415
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 12: be more in the clinch, used to use his wrestling

1416
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 12: lot more. Now he's getting very comfortable with his striking.

1417
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 12: But he seems to be like just too comfortable that

1418
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 12: he's walking forward that nobody can hurt him. Since that

1419
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 12: Brendan Allen fight, he literally just walks already talks trash,

1420
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 12: which is cool.

1421
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 3: There is this new mean tough guy, and I believe

1422
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 3: in him.

1423
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 12: I think he's great, but against someone you're Ryah Hall,

1424
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 12: who has all the tools, especially in the stand up game,

1425
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 12: to be one of the better strikers, if not the

1426
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 12: top two or three in that division.

1427
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 3: This, to me, it comes down to what you're Rya

1428
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 3: Hall are we going to see?

1429
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 12: Mentally, he's his own worst enemy, and that's been the

1430
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 12: reason why he's never reached the top of the mountain,

1431
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,479
Speaker 12: why he hasn't fought for even a title con spot.

1432
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 12: When he gets there, he just shuts down with Anderson

1433
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 12: Silver fight. He was not really fighting his style until

1434
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 12: the end where he finally loosened up. And against Sean Strickland,

1435
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 12: he's not going to have a lot of time to

1436
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 12: get over his doubts, get you know, and not be confident. However,

1437
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 12: I think this style plays in his favor. It doesn't

1438
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 12: have to worry about the takedowns. This guy's going to

1439
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 12: walk straight forward at him, and your Ryot can move

1440
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 12: around and take angles.

1441
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 3: I think the values on your Rya Hall.

1442
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 12: I don't think Strickland has fought anyone at this level yet,

1443
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 12: it doesn't mean Strickland can't win. He's tough, but if

1444
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 12: he doesn't mix in that wrestling where Hall obviously will

1445
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 12: be at a disadvantage and it's just a kickboxing fight,

1446
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:36,919
Speaker 12: you got to give me your Rya Hall. At those odds,

1447
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 12: I'll take your Rye Hall by decision.

1448
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 6: You're Rya Hall.

1449
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 5: The Captain of Ford US MMA by decision plus one

1450
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 5: eighty for Ian Parker. All right, Kim Flow, I love

1451
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 5: this main event. I'll be sitting on my couch watching

1452
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 5: eating fucking popcorn.

1453
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 6: Who wins it?

1454
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 3: Listen, I agree with a lot of what you guys said.

1455
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 7: Sehn Strickland very tough dude, has a lot of momentum now,

1456
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 7: but I do think he's facing someone very different in

1457
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 7: Uriah Hall. I think Uryah Hall is gonna be a

1458
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 7: little bit too quick. I think that Sean. Even if

1459
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 7: he decides to switch things up, which I do think

1460
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 7: he should at least and look for takedowns in this fight,

1461
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 7: even then, I don't know if his takedowns are that

1462
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 7: dominant where he can repeatedly do that over the course

1463
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 7: of five rounds and not get caught by your eye Hall.

1464
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 7: I think Aryah is going to be very dangerous in

1465
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 7: this fight, especially early first ten to fifteen minutes. I

1466
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 7: think Sean really needs to be careful, especially when he

1467
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 7: comes forward like he does. I think that's when Uriah

1468
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 7: can really catch you with a spinning back kick or

1469
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 7: across coming you know, coming forward. So I think I,

1470
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 7: like Ryah Hall here, I need to do something a

1471
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 7: little different than than Ian. Right, let's go with a finish.

1472
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 7: Let's go with let's go with the round one finish.

1473
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 5: Round KO one t KO for yah Hall the way

1474
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 5: Kenflow sees it this weekend.

1475
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 3: John, I'm gonna put this out there.

1476
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 12: If you're Riyah Hall finished at sewn strickling the first round,

1477
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 12: you give Kenny double the points of what it's worth.

1478
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 3: There you go. You heard it here first.

1479
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 6: How about that?

1480
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 7: Sean are close to easy to finish? And this is

1481
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 7: no despect to Sean. I just I think it's a

1482
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 7: good matchup for you, Rayah.

1483
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 3: Sean's a stud. But yeah, we'll see what happens.

1484
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 6: Right, Ip, good stuff.

1485
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Speaker 5: We look forward to talking to you next week, obviously

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Speaker 5: in advance of the monster that is UFC.

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Speaker 6: What two sixty five does that sound right?

1488
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Speaker 3: Sounds right?

1489
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Speaker 1: couple of villains to sort out whether bad stuff is

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Speaker 1: also illegal stuff. George Santos want to seat in Congress

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Speaker 1: by lying to voters, but is that a crime? And

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Speaker 1: Kanye West made it clear he hates Jews in England.

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Speaker 1: He'd go to jail for that. Here in America, did

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Speaker 1: he commit a hate crime? Listen to Too Many Lawyers

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