WEBVTT - Far from Over — Bonus | Ashley's Story

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<v Speaker 1>Topics featured in this episode maybe disturbing to some listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>Please take care while listening. I'm Andrea Gunning. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Betrayal Season two Bonus episode three. We're back with a

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<v Speaker 1>bonus episode. We were not expecting to produce right now,

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<v Speaker 1>not for another month at least. Ashley texted us with

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<v Speaker 1>an urgent update and we wanted to share it with you.

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<v Speaker 1>My producer, Carrie Hartman took the call.

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<v Speaker 2>So ash tell me what news you just received and

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<v Speaker 2>how it came to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I received an email letting me know that Jason was

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<v Speaker 3>being released.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, one of the big issues in this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>has been about how much incarceration jail time is given

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<v Speaker 2>to perpetrators, and it seems to me that this is

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<v Speaker 2>falling short of the sentence that he was given.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so Jason was sentenced to a year, but with

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<v Speaker 3>time served, so he'd already served thirty four days I think,

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<v Speaker 3>so they automatically took that off of his year sentence,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I don't know for sure, but it seems

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<v Speaker 3>like he got some type of good behavior reduction in

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<v Speaker 3>his sentence as well. So it's close to two and

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<v Speaker 3>a half months, sooner than a year.

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<v Speaker 2>How is your family dealing with that? And is he

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in your community again?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we all knew he was only spending a

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<v Speaker 3>year in there, but I think the actuality of it,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's going to live less than two miles from

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<v Speaker 3>me and the children, that's really what scares me. I

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<v Speaker 3>think we're all just ancis.

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<v Speaker 2>I know when Jason was out the first time, the

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<v Speaker 2>hardest part for both you and for Avea was when

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<v Speaker 2>she would see him somewhere in public. It would cause

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<v Speaker 2>terrible anxiety for her if you walked her through how

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<v Speaker 2>to handle that if it happens now.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I haven't even made space for that. I just

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<v Speaker 3>had a thought of seeing him at our grocery store

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<v Speaker 3>or something. I think I would turn around and walk

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<v Speaker 3>out and act like I didn't Sam, And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that will be a good conversation to have with Avia

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<v Speaker 3>because she is gaining back so much of her confidence.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been so amazing these last you know, two or

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<v Speaker 3>three months to watch her be confident and stick up

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<v Speaker 3>for herself. You know, she's in such a good place

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<v Speaker 3>right now. I almost feel like she's not going to

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<v Speaker 3>let it pierce her vibe. She's happy, she's getting ready

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<v Speaker 3>to start her senior year in high school. He's hanging

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<v Speaker 3>out with friends again, and you know, doing all those

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<v Speaker 3>normal things that a seventeen year old should be doing.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I just really hope that when the time comes,

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<v Speaker 3>that she sees him, because I think it's inevitable. I

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<v Speaker 3>hope she has the confidence to look at him straight

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<v Speaker 3>in the eye and flip him off, you know, something

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<v Speaker 3>that lets him know that he has no power over

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<v Speaker 3>her anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything you can do to help with your

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<v Speaker 2>own anxiety In the short.

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<v Speaker 3>Term, I'm having some family and a close friend of

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<v Speaker 3>mine come stay with us for the next week or two,

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<v Speaker 3>just because I don't know what his mindset is. I

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<v Speaker 3>probably never really did know this side of him, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what his limitations are. I try not

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<v Speaker 3>to live in the future, but hypothetically we go to

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<v Speaker 3>court family court and they tell he has no supervised

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<v Speaker 3>visits with our youngest just because I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>to expect. Jason has had such a poor me attitude

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<v Speaker 3>about all of this. I've lost my family, i lost

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<v Speaker 3>my career, I lost my home. Now the only thing

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<v Speaker 3>that has him tied to our life is our youngest

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<v Speaker 3>daughter and I just don't know what he's capable of.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't think he'd want to do anything

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<v Speaker 3>to jeopardize his freedom. But there's crazy people all over

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<v Speaker 3>the place.

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<v Speaker 2>What should Jason do? What can he do to make

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<v Speaker 2>you feel comfortable that you are safe and that your

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<v Speaker 2>kids are safe, and that he will respect your boundaries.

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<v Speaker 3>I want him to go away. I want him to

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<v Speaker 3>move out of the state. His mother lives in another state.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's what's best for him. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 3>still has to live a life, still fairly young, and

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully that life doesn't include meeting somebody with children. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to pretend that he actually died because he did

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<v Speaker 3>that Jason, we knew doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>You and Jason share one daughter, your youngest, who is ten. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you expect in terms of visitation?

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<v Speaker 3>If I had my way, I would terminate printal rights.

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<v Speaker 3>But based off of conversations that I've had with my lawyer,

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<v Speaker 3>I know that that's not an option. Because I'm still

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<v Speaker 3>so angry and really passionate about everything, I thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was best to hire somebody that can take a stance

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<v Speaker 3>from like a neutral position to decide what was best

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<v Speaker 3>for our youngest daughter. He'll make recommendations to the family

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<v Speaker 3>court on what he thinks is appropriate as far as visitation.

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<v Speaker 2>If any Wendy, you think you'll feel really safe again.

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<v Speaker 3>Never Maybe when our youngest is, you know, on her own,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's an adult and she can make her own

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<v Speaker 3>adult decisions, you know, so she chooses to have a

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<v Speaker 3>relationship with him at that time, then you know she's

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<v Speaker 3>an adult. But I just don't feel safe. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think really anybody should.

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<v Speaker 4>On Sunday, August sixth, the Victim Notification Network also called Vine,

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<v Speaker 4>texted Ashley with a message. Jason Litton was released on

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<v Speaker 4>eight six, twenty three. The release reason is sentenced served

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<v Speaker 4>in an emergency called nine to one one and after

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<v Speaker 4>working with Ashley for over a year, Jason is out.

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