1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Topics featured in this episode maybe disturbing to some listeners. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: Please take care while listening. I'm Andrea Gunning. This is 3 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Betrayal Season two Bonus episode three. We're back with a 4 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: bonus episode. We were not expecting to produce right now, 5 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: not for another month at least. Ashley texted us with 6 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: an urgent update and we wanted to share it with you. 7 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: My producer, Carrie Hartman took the call. 8 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 2: So ash tell me what news you just received and 9 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: how it came to you. 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 3: I received an email letting me know that Jason was 11 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: being released. 12 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: You know, one of the big issues in this podcast 13 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: has been about how much incarceration jail time is given 14 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: to perpetrators, and it seems to me that this is 15 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: falling short of the sentence that he was given. 16 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: Yes, so Jason was sentenced to a year, but with 17 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 3: time served, so he'd already served thirty four days I think, 18 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: so they automatically took that off of his year sentence, 19 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: and then I don't know for sure, but it seems 20 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: like he got some type of good behavior reduction in 21 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: his sentence as well. So it's close to two and 22 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: a half months, sooner than a year. 23 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: How is your family dealing with that? And is he 24 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: going to be in your community again? 25 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: I mean, we all knew he was only spending a 26 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: year in there, but I think the actuality of it, 27 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: and he's going to live less than two miles from 28 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: me and the children, that's really what scares me. I 29 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: think we're all just ancis. 30 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: I know when Jason was out the first time, the 31 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: hardest part for both you and for Avea was when 32 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 2: she would see him somewhere in public. It would cause 33 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: terrible anxiety for her if you walked her through how 34 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: to handle that if it happens now. 35 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: No, I haven't even made space for that. I just 36 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: had a thought of seeing him at our grocery store 37 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: or something. I think I would turn around and walk 38 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: out and act like I didn't Sam, And you know, 39 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: that will be a good conversation to have with Avia 40 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: because she is gaining back so much of her confidence. 41 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 3: It's been so amazing these last you know, two or 42 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: three months to watch her be confident and stick up 43 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: for herself. You know, she's in such a good place 44 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: right now. I almost feel like she's not going to 45 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: let it pierce her vibe. She's happy, she's getting ready 46 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: to start her senior year in high school. He's hanging 47 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 3: out with friends again, and you know, doing all those 48 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: normal things that a seventeen year old should be doing. 49 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: And so I just really hope that when the time comes, 50 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: that she sees him, because I think it's inevitable. I 51 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: hope she has the confidence to look at him straight 52 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: in the eye and flip him off, you know, something 53 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 3: that lets him know that he has no power over 54 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: her anymore. 55 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: Is there anything you can do to help with your 56 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: own anxiety In the short. 57 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: Term, I'm having some family and a close friend of 58 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: mine come stay with us for the next week or two, 59 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: just because I don't know what his mindset is. I 60 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: probably never really did know this side of him, and 61 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: I don't know what his limitations are. I try not 62 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: to live in the future, but hypothetically we go to 63 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: court family court and they tell he has no supervised 64 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: visits with our youngest just because I don't know what 65 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: to expect. Jason has had such a poor me attitude 66 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: about all of this. I've lost my family, i lost 67 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 3: my career, I lost my home. Now the only thing 68 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: that has him tied to our life is our youngest 69 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: daughter and I just don't know what he's capable of. 70 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think he'd want to do anything 71 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: to jeopardize his freedom. But there's crazy people all over 72 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: the place. 73 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 2: What should Jason do? What can he do to make 74 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: you feel comfortable that you are safe and that your 75 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: kids are safe, and that he will respect your boundaries. 76 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: I want him to go away. I want him to 77 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: move out of the state. His mother lives in another state. 78 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: I think it's what's best for him. I mean, he 79 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: still has to live a life, still fairly young, and 80 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 3: hopefully that life doesn't include meeting somebody with children. I 81 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: want to pretend that he actually died because he did 82 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: that Jason, we knew doesn't exist. 83 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: You and Jason share one daughter, your youngest, who is ten. Now, 84 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: what do you expect in terms of visitation? 85 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 3: If I had my way, I would terminate printal rights. 86 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: But based off of conversations that I've had with my lawyer, 87 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 3: I know that that's not an option. Because I'm still 88 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: so angry and really passionate about everything, I thought it 89 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 3: was best to hire somebody that can take a stance 90 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: from like a neutral position to decide what was best 91 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 3: for our youngest daughter. He'll make recommendations to the family 92 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: court on what he thinks is appropriate as far as visitation. 93 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: If any Wendy, you think you'll feel really safe again. 94 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 3: Never Maybe when our youngest is, you know, on her own, 95 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: and she's an adult and she can make her own 96 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 3: adult decisions, you know, so she chooses to have a 97 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: relationship with him at that time, then you know she's 98 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 3: an adult. But I just don't feel safe. I don't 99 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: think really anybody should. 100 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 4: On Sunday, August sixth, the Victim Notification Network also called Vine, 101 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: texted Ashley with a message. Jason Litton was released on 102 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 4: eight six, twenty three. The release reason is sentenced served 103 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 4: in an emergency called nine to one one and after 104 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: working with Ashley for over a year, Jason is out. 105 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal team, 106 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 4: email us at Betrayal Pod at gmail dot com. That's 107 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 4: Betrayal Pod at gmail dot com. Betrayal is a production 108 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 4: of Glass Podcasts, a division of Glass Entertainment Group and 109 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 4: partnership with iHeart Podcasts. The show was executive produced by 110 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 4: Nancy Glass and Jennifer Fason, hosted and produced by me 111 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 4: Andrea Gunning, written and produced by Kerry Hartman, also produced 112 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: by Ben Fetterman Associate producer Kristin Melcurie. Our iHeart team 113 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 4: is Ali Perry and Jessica Krincheck. Audio editing and mixing 114 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 4: by Matt Alvecchio. Trails theme composed by Oliver Bains. Music 115 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 4: library provided by my Music and For more podcasts from iHeart, 116 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get 117 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 4: your podcasts