1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Live from our nation's capital. This is Bloomberg Sound On. 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: We want to get people back to work. We've got 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: to be hating the path leaks. It is up to 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Congress to kind of set the rules of the road. 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: But you have to wonder what spacebook final objective Isn't 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: that Bloomberg sound On politics, policy, and perspective from DC's 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: tough name. So they just simply reopen the economy and 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: returned everyone back to work, we would be I think 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: in a better situation today, Washington may squander it's best 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: chance to make long over do investments in our infrastructure. 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: Sloomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. President 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: Biden is in the Eternal City, but we are still 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: here in the bubble where Democratic lawmakers have yet to 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: find enough trust to vote on infrastructure. We'll talk about 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: it straight ahead with Congressman Richie Torres, Democrat from New York. 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: Are progressive with very strong views on climate, affordable housing, 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: and the timing in which these bills should be handled 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: in the House. Our Friday Reporters round Table in place 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: with Bloomberg Washington Bureau Chief Peggy Collins, along with Jody Schneider, 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: political director from Bloomberg TV and Radio. We're gonna analyze 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: where we are in this whole process, what could be 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: coming up next week for infrastructure, and also talk about 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: President Biden's trip to the G twenty in Rome and 24 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: next week's You and Climate Summit in Glasgow. And later 25 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: we'll turn to the New York mayoral election. My conversations 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: with both candidates. Will hear from Democrat Eric Adams. Republican 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: Curtis Leewa Bloomberg scot Or Woodhouse, also covering the New 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: Jersey gubernatorial race, will join us later on It's Friday. 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna end this week strong, and we start right 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: here in Washington, where most of the news coverage has 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: centered on what did not happen late yesterday, and by 32 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: that I mean a vote on the biff. Even after 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: President Biden rolled up to Capitol Hill with the big 34 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: framework for reconciliation, call it what you will, a three 35 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: page die documents, a plan, a framework. Progressives liked it, 36 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: but still did not move on infrastructure. And we want 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: to get into this a little bit now with Congressman 38 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: Richie Torres, Democrat from New York, whose district includes most 39 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: of the South Bronx and he's with us now. Congressmen, 40 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: welcome to Bloomberg Radio. It's an out of here. Much 41 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: was said yesterday about the framework issued by the White House. 42 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: What did you think about the contents as we know them? 43 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: And was it the right thing to not vote on 44 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: the bipart as an infrastructure bill last night. Look, I'm 45 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: actually more optimistic than ever. Um. You know, the President 46 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: came before the Democratic Caucus and announced that he has 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: a framework that is that he is confident will pass 48 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: both the Senate and the House. So we have a 49 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: clear pass forward and I'm hopeful that we're going to 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: pass both to by person Infrastructure Framework and the Build 51 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: Back Better Act and the weeks to come. What's your 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: criteria for this? Do you need to see both bills 53 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: move at the same time. Do you want to see 54 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: an actual piece of legislation for the soft infrastructure bill 55 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: before voting for the biff? What what's your view on that? Well, 56 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: the President's priority is to pass not one, but both bills, 57 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: and the President explicitly said he wants both bills to 58 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: pass and he needs our votes to both bills. And 59 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm committed to voting for both of them. Um, you know, 60 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: the position of the Progressive Caucus has long been trust 61 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: but verified, and the best form of verification is an 62 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: actual vote on the Build Back Better Act in the 63 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: Senate that will guarantee the passage. Are both still that's 64 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: an important distinction, though. You want to see a vote 65 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 1: in the Senate as opposed to a piece of legislation 66 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: that will be voted on. I think we need to 67 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: vote for the totality of the President's agenda. Right, Neither 68 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: bill is sufficient on its own. It's the conversation of 69 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: the Build Back Better Act and the bipartisan bill that 70 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: will have a real impact in modernizing American infrastructure and 71 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: building the twenty one century social Contract. Would you like 72 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: some other progressives like to work to reinsert some components, like, 73 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: for instance, paid family leave in what would be a 74 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: final version? Or does this move forward in its current state? Okay, 75 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: I would love to see more, and I will keep 76 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: fighting for more. But if both bills came to the 77 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: Fourth for a vote, I would I would vote for 78 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: both in their present form. Can I ask you just 79 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: in terms of process here and the way these ideas 80 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: and these policies are rolled out, are you in favor 81 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: generally of a big comprehensive approach like this, or could 82 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: these have been done each in their own bill, a 83 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: paid family leave bill, a Medicare expansion bill, a childcare bill, 84 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: or would that have made it more difficult for them 85 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: all to pass with with such small majorities in the 86 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: House and Senate. The root of all evil and Washington 87 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: DC is the Philipbusters buster, Washington d C on the 88 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: Senate in particular, whole but uncomfitable, and so we had 89 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: no choice but to take a comprehensive approach in order 90 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: to go through the reconciliation process, which is exempt from 91 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: the filibuster. And we only have two bites at the apple. 92 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: We passed one bill of the American Rescue Plans of reconciliation. 93 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: This is our second bite at the apple um. So 94 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: we had no choice but to take this complimens of approach. 95 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: The alternative was not an option because it would have 96 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: died at the hands of the filibus or at the 97 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: hands of obstructionism from the Republican Party Congress. With tourists, 98 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: I know the issue of affordable housing is important to you. 99 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: The current state of reconciliation, as I understand it is 100 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: is still including the Housing Trust Fund and some other 101 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 1: measures designed to help support housing for low income families 102 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: and workers. Is there enough in this framework to make 103 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: this situation better in your state? Look, the latest wraps 104 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: of the Build Back Better Act makes the largest investments 105 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: in affordable housing in the history of the United States. Um, 106 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, no topic matters more to me than public housing. Um, 107 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: I would not be where I am today. We're not 108 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: for public housing and the stability gave me in my family. 109 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: And public housing has been so chronically underfunded in New 110 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: York City, in particular, that it has a capital leat 111 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: of forty billion dollars in County. So I grew up 112 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: in conditions of molds and mildew, leaks and leads without 113 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: consistent needed hot water in the winter. There are children 114 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: in public housing who have been poisoned by letting their 115 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: own home. There are senior citizens who during the cold 116 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: winter are freezing in their own apartments, but their boilers 117 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: constantly breaking down. And so the latest draft of the 118 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: build Backs that are und would invest sixty five billion 119 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: dollars in public houses, which is enough resources to fundamentally 120 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: improve living conditions and end the humanitarian crisis. In public 121 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: housing in New York City and elsewhere in defensive over 122 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: what period of time would that money be spent? How 123 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: quickly could that get to work for New York? I mean, 124 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: capital improvements take time, but um, it's you know, the 125 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: process of reconciliation unfolds over a ten year heard Congressman. 126 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: I wonder how you feel about the climate provisions as well? 127 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: The clean power grid components that was hashed out, uh 128 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: for weeks and weeks did not make it into the 129 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: final version. Does this collection of policies, tax incentives and 130 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: and other incentives for evs, for instance, get this done 131 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: for you? Five and fifty five billion dollars in a 132 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: climate investment? Are you satisfied with the way that looks now? Look, 133 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: I would have loved to have seen the inclusion of 134 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: the clean Energy Performance program, but we had to remove 135 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: it from the final draft of a concession to Joe Manson, 136 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: who has veto power effectively, but more than a half 137 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: or tillion dollars in tax incentives for clean energy investment 138 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: is staggering. Um, there's no doubt in my mind that 139 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: the latest framework is going to accelerate our country's transition 140 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: to a clean energy economy which is desperately needed. Um. 141 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: You know, here in New York City we've seen not one, 142 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: but two record rainfalls and the span of a single week. 143 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: One of those record rainfalls was described as the wine 144 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: to find a good year events. I saw residents rounding 145 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: their own basement apartments from heavy flooding, motorists who had 146 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: to be evacuated from the top of their vehicles by 147 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: emergency responders on light boats, commuters who had to be 148 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: evacuated from flooded subways. So the extreme weather patterns that 149 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: have taken hold are a wake up call that we 150 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: as a country cannot be complacent about climate change, and 151 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: we have infrastructure for a world that no longer exists 152 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: and desperately needs to be upgraded. As a New Yorker, 153 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: I'd like to ask you about the vaccine mandate. This 154 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: appears to be an issue for a lot of police officers, firefighters, 155 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: even sanitation workers who are promising to refuse to take 156 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: the vaccine and and could be walking off the job 157 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: essentially on Monday. Is it possible to run a city 158 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: under those conditions? And should that mandate be in place? 159 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: There should be a mandate, and there's ample precedent for 160 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: vacuum mandate. You know, no child can enter the public 161 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: school system with an undergoing vaccination on a whole range 162 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: of infectious diseases right from pro testis to small paths 163 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: to hepatitis. So there's nothing unusual about vaccine mandate. And 164 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: in fact, we as a society, we never would have 165 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: eradicated small pots in the world we're not for vaccine mandates. 166 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: We never would have eradicated polio from the United States 167 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: where not for for vaccine mandates. So I consider vactually 168 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: mandates to be a miracle a modern medicine, and it 169 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: is profoundly irresponsible for any public servance to defy a 170 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: vaccine mandate. We're gonna have to figure out how to 171 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: make accommodations, but we have to through a combination of 172 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: incentives and mandates to steer people in the direction towards vaccination. Um. 173 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: You know, the more people we vaccinate, the closer we 174 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: are to achieving normal life again, not only in the city, 175 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: but in the country. Um, if the violence is left 176 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: to spread on checked, it's going to mutate and we 177 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: run the risk of a mutation that could have dated 178 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: the vaccine. And that's the worst case scenario, would you 179 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: consider adding a testing option to that vaccine requirement if 180 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: it meant keeping people at work. Look, it's not a 181 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: New York season interest to see a mass exodus of 182 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: municipal employees. So we're going to have to figure out 183 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: an accommodation. But I want to be crystal clear. I 184 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: support the vaccine mandate and violations of the mandate are 185 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: profoundly irresponsible as a matter of public health. Representative tour 186 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: is just to end where we started here. Do you 187 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: expect a vote on Infrastructure and Reconciliation in the next 188 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: week or are you looking more as a end of 189 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: year type of time frame. I mean, the two bills 190 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: could pass as early as next week, but I'm hopeful 191 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: that we will get it done right before Thanksgivings, so 192 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: we will have much to be grateful for. Congressman Richie Torres, 193 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: we thank you for your time today on Bloomberg. Democrat 194 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: Senator Tim Caine sees it passing sooner. Infrastructure, that is, 195 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: he talked about it in an interview today with Bloomberg's 196 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: David Weston. Yeah, here's here's my here's what my gut 197 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: tells me. Right now, I think the Infrastructure bill will 198 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: go to Biden's desk within the next ten days, and 199 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: I think the reconciliation bill will be voted on by 200 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: the Senate right before the Thanksgiving recess. Other reason to 201 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: circle Thanksgiving on the calendar coming up. We get into 202 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: all this with our Friday Reporters Roundtable. Bloomberg Washington Bureau 203 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: Chief Peggy Collins. Jody Schneider will be with us, political 204 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: director for Bloomberg TV and Radio. The fastest hour in politics, 205 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: it's called Sound On. We're glad you're with us. Stay here, 206 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: We'll check markets and traffic on the way. I'm Joe Matthew. 207 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg Sound On with 208 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Headline on the terminal, Pelosi 209 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: leading talks to add drug price in Biden planned. So 210 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: this is clearly not done when we get into the 211 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: debate now with our Friday Reporters Roundtable, Jody Schneider, political 212 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: director for Bloomberg TV and Radio, is here along with 213 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's brand new Washington bureau chief, Peggy Collins. Peggy, Congratulations, 214 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: We are delighted to have you at the Helm here 215 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: in Washington. I want to welcome you to Sound On. 216 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me, absolutely Peggy. How much 217 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: actually changed yesterday is what I want to know. We 218 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: woke up to news of the framework, the president back 219 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: on the Hill. Reporters are running around town, so were lawmakers. 220 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: Well so is the president. And while progressives were happy, 221 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: this still feels, as we just talked about what the congressman, 222 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: still feels far from over. Did the White House advance 223 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 1: the ball or not this week? Well, I think they 224 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: clarified maybe where the ball is going um this week, 225 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: but I think there's still a lot to go because 226 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of members of Congress 227 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: who still aren't happy with where they are and how 228 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: much has been cut out of the original bill. I 229 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: think also taxes were in the forefront again this week, 230 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of members of Congress on 231 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,239 Speaker 1: the Democratic side are not happy with how much the 232 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: ambition of this plan as in scaled down on the 233 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: tax front. So a lot still to come there. It 234 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: was a bit of a wild week. At one point 235 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: there was um we were reporting that there was going 236 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: to be a billionaires tax. Where things really settled at 237 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: the end of this week, it looks like that that 238 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: is out and um, there's a millionaire surd tax that 239 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: it's been, but that certainly is leaving a lot of 240 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: room for the top top of the wealthiest people in 241 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: this country to still use some of the theme tax 242 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: strategies that they have used in the past. So we 243 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: have a great story out that just launched on the 244 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: terminal not too long ago this afternoon by my colleagues 245 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: been Steven Man of Laura Davison, which really walks through 246 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, where we are in terms of the taxation 247 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: of the wealthiest in this country. It's amazing, Jody, we're 248 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: getting whip. Last year, he spent two days reporting on 249 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: a billionaire's tax and all of a sudden the thing 250 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: is gone. Did did Democrats make up for that loss 251 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: of the billionaires tax along with the you know, the 252 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: it was not just the tax on unrealized games, but 253 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: some of the other concepts that didn't make the cut. 254 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: Is this plan paid for? Well, that's really the question, Joe. 255 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: I think, you know, um, how paid for? Is it 256 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: might be a weather way to ask it. We really, um, 257 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: we've seen some other things that they've tossed in their um, 258 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, to make up for that, but it's unclear 259 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: what will stick in the end. Uh. And that's always 260 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: the problem with these things that you come up with 261 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: a you know, a dollar figure and you and you 262 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: try to make the two sides match, and it's difficult 263 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: to do because, um, you know, there's people who don't 264 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: like the pay for the so called pay for us 265 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: and there's people who don't like, uh some of what 266 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: is in there or I don't think there's enough in there. 267 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: And that's sort of where we are right now. Um 268 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: I think it, you know, you can get there. Uh, 269 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: it depends on whether these things, you know, the math 270 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: works out. And then they're throwing things in there like 271 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: I R. S and Horseman, which we've seen in every 272 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: bill where they're looking for pay force for Oh, I 273 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: don't know more than a dozen years, right, and um, 274 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: so it's hard to know if it's totally paid for 275 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: or not. The problem they have right now the Democrats, though, 276 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: is do they have enough in there to make those 277 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: progressives happy? The deal was supposed to be Nancy Pelosi 278 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: said she wanted, but the President said he wanted was 279 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: that this gave them a framework so that the House 280 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,359 Speaker 1: could go ahead and vote on that Senate Past Infrastructure 281 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: bill and give him sort of a win, and particularly 282 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: around climate um for when he gets to, you know, 283 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: the Glasgow Summit on Climate and also at the G twenty. 284 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: He didn't really get that because we haven't seen any 285 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: votes scheduled on that Senate pass bill. Some of the 286 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: Progressives are still saying they won't go there, so they've 287 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: got to sort of settle that first. I think before 288 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: they settled the total decision on the pay Force Peggy 289 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: similar situation with the climate provisions. So much stuff was 290 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: in and then all of a sudden it was out, namely, uh, 291 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: the clean energy component that would have cleaned the utility, 292 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,239 Speaker 1: the power grids, the utility companies with incentives and penalties 293 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: to to use more green sourced power. I spoke a 294 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: little bit earlier today on Bloomberg Radio with the Administrator 295 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: of the e P A. Michael Reagan, to have him 296 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: kind of frame what is in this. We see five 297 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: and fifty five billion dollars, a lot of tax incentives. 298 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: Here's how he framed it. Historic investments that will not 299 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: only help us mitigate climate change and adapt to climate change, 300 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: but there are historic investments to protect public health so 301 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot in this proposed framework, and it's too 302 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: early to tell about what the next steps would be 303 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: after this is passed. Too early to tell exactly where 304 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: it's going, Peggy, but the administration is clearly trying to 305 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: put a good shine on this. Democratic leaders on Capitol 306 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: Hill are as well. Is this an effective package of 307 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: timate change policies though, or is this kind of a 308 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: disparate collection of just what they were able to fit in. Well, 309 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: I think Johan is following on to what Jody said. 310 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: You know, the President headed off to Europe and for 311 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: the Cops Summit with the hopes of having a lot 312 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: of concrete finalized, you know, things to show, including on 313 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: climate change. I do think we are still in a 314 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: murky area, you know, talking about investments and climate change. 315 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: It's certainly something that you know, our readers of Bloomberg 316 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: have been talking about and are certainly you know, looking 317 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: towards and of course we all can see how some 318 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: of the climate issues are playing into companies bottom lines 319 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: more and more, as well as American households. But it 320 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: is unclear really where we are in terms of tangible, 321 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: concrete things that may make a difference. Having said that, though, 322 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: I mean Biden does head over to Europe with a 323 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 1: much different stance than than in the Trump administration. You know, 324 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: with the U s having rejoined Parish Climate Agreement, so 325 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: I think they have more leverage, but like in the 326 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: sense of attending these meetings from that standpoint, But again, 327 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: it is still unclear how much how much of the 328 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: chief that is in there is really going to hold. 329 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: We're going to get into the president's trip and what 330 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: he has to show for it coming up. But first, Jody, 331 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: real quick timeline. Does infrastructure get past next week or 332 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: are we looking again towards Thanksgiving? I think we're going 333 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: to be running around asking people those questions all next week. Joe, alright, 334 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: my dance card is full. Stay right here. We've got 335 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: Peggy and Jody for the hour. We will look ahead 336 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: to the G twenty copy right here on sound on. 337 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: That's next. I'm Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg broadcasting live 338 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: from our nation's capital. 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So we're friends again, And 345 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: what's the job facing Joe Biden at the G twenty 346 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 1: Not to mention the UN Climate summit that we'll follow. 347 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: We'll get into it next in our Friday Reporters round Table. 348 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Washington Bureau Chief Peggy Collins and Jody Schneider, political 349 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: director for Bloomberg TV and Radio with us this hour. 350 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: As President Biden spends the night in Rome after starting 351 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: his day at the Vatican and a meeting with Pope Francis. 352 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: It lasted roughly ninety minutes, according to the Pool, and 353 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: of course came with the traditional exchange of gifts, the 354 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: Pope presenting the President and First Lady with gifts that 355 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: included a ceramic tile with an etch design of Vatican City, 356 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: as well as his recent writings. The President. Biden gave 357 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: the Pope of vestment from the nineteen thirties that came 358 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: from Biden's Washington parish. The Holy Trinity Church also gave 359 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: him a presidential challenge coin. Very touching moment included the 360 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: insignia of the National Guard unit in which his son 361 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: Bo Biden served as a captain, and with it a 362 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: joke as President Biden told the Pope, if he did 363 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: not have that challenge coin with him, this is the 364 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: way it works. If he didn't have it with him, 365 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: next time they met, he said, the Pope would have 366 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: to buy the drinks. Then he added this, I'm the 367 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: only irishman you've ever met. You never had a drink, 368 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: followed by a translator and saying quote, Irish people love whiskey. 369 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: You cannot make this stuff up. And fast forward to 370 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: President Biden's first face to face meeting with French President 371 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: Emmanuel Macron. That happened a short time later, first face 372 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: to face since the submarine deal with Australia was announced, 373 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 1: causing outrage and aunts, Biden offering today deference to the French, 374 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: what happened, uh was, to use a English phrase, what 375 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: we did was clumsy. It was not done with a 376 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: lot of grace clumbing. I was under the impression certain 377 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: things that happened that had We turned again to our 378 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: Friday Reporters round table with Bloomberg Washington Bureau chief Peggy 379 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: Collins and the political director for Bloomberg TV and Radio, 380 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: Jody Schneider. Jody, You've covered a lot of bilots like this. 381 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: To see the President taking that posture, clearly this was 382 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: important to him. It's something he wanted to show his 383 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: cards on while the press was in the room. Is 384 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: this now over well? I think it's certainly helped men things. 385 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: This really was, Joe, the culmination of six weeks of 386 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: diplomacy trying to get this alliance back on track after 387 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: obviously Australia decided to cancel this sixty six billion dollar 388 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: submarine contract with France and the French were surprised by 389 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: that and pulled their embass for a while and it 390 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: was messy. So I think this is the start of that. 391 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that you know, all is forgiven overnight, 392 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: but certainly to do this on the sidelines before the 393 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: G twenty, you know, actually gets into full swing was 394 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: was was a smart diplomatic idea by Biden, and coming 395 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: after with the Pope, it really kind of sensed this 396 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: signal that I'm trying to do the right things right, 397 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: We're trying here, Peggy. As I read in the piece 398 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: from Jennifer Epstein and Justin Sink our White House team, 399 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: the French president signaled the dust up may be settled, 400 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: but it's important to prevent a similar flap in the future. 401 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: He needs to say that for his own people as well. 402 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: Is this smoothed out now, Peggy? I agree with Jody. 403 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: I think it went a long way. I think one 404 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: of the things that the French probably were wanting to 405 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: get across is, you know, you can't take you can't 406 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: count your friends and allies, um, you know, or take 407 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: them for granted, really, you know. And I think, as 408 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: Biden said today and acknowledge, you know in Amapa like 409 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: this was something that was clumsy, and I think it 410 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: was he was trying to signal that they're going to 411 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: um take more attention and be more careful in the 412 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: future to make sure that, you know, the relations between 413 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: our strongest allies are are strong. So it's onto G 414 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: twenty and then it's on to copy. These are two 415 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: important summits for this White House as President Biden tries 416 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: to fulfill the whole US America is back mantra and 417 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: I want to go back to our conversation today a 418 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: little bit earlier today with the administrator of the e 419 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: p A, Michael Reagan, I say that because climate was 420 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: such a big part of this right, he was supposed 421 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: to bring progress not only to the U N Summit, 422 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: but also to the G twenty to show that America 423 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: and democracy we're working. I asked the e p A 424 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: administrator what the President will have to show the world 425 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: leaders when this all begins. President will tell the world 426 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: that billion dollars dedicated to mitigating climate change is what 427 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: is central to the flame work, and he's confident that 428 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: in his conversations with both Congress in the Senate that 429 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: it will get through and he's awaiting that on his 430 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: debt Jody Schneider, that's the view of the administration. Will 431 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: that be the view of world leaders? Is this enough? Well, 432 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: that's really the question, and whether they see a framework 433 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: UH as as a deal. Um, you know, I think 434 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: that obviously Biden would have preferred, and the administration kept saying, 435 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: we want to go to the world and say, you know, 436 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: we have something to show for this uh and um, 437 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: you know COP twenty this means they've been twenty six 438 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: of these before five of these before this is the 439 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: six and if they want real progress to be made, 440 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: they're going to have to have definitive, actionable um, you know, legislation. 441 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: So I think there probably will be some skepticism. But 442 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: again Joe Biden is saying we are back, we are 443 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: wanting to work with these other countries, which also goes 444 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: a long way given that the you know, the very 445 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: different kind of approach his predecessor, Donald Trump had I 446 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: guess the French would call it a cadre right instead 447 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: of a framework. Thanggy, what do you think about that? 448 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we we're having trouble getting our heads around 449 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: it here in Washington. Does this matter as much or 450 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: we just too deep in the weeds here? Does it 451 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: matter as much to copy or does President Biden say, 452 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: look at it's a half trillion dollars here, it's a 453 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: major investment, you know. I think, as j D was saying, 454 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: the COP twenty six is about more of a test 455 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: than just for Biden, the Biden administration and the US. 456 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: I think it's important, but I do think there's a 457 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: huge like antestation versus reality question going on for all 458 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: the world. The lead that are headed to Glasgow about 459 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: how much can they really do and how much hope 460 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: can they provide to the developing world on that front 461 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: as well, And so I think there's a high bar. 462 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: And I think also you know, you're mentioning the G 463 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: twenty as well happening, and that I do think is 464 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: really important for Biden and Yellen too. I mean, we 465 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: were talking about the move that happened this week related 466 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: to our domestic tax plans and proposals, but there's a 467 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: global minimum tax fil that is hanging out there that 468 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: Yellen is really you know, tasked with trying to close 469 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: the deal on with other world leaders this weekend and 470 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 1: this week as well, Global minimum corporate tax. Peggy Collins, 471 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm delighted you could join us and Jody of course 472 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: part of the family here at sound On. Jody Schneider, 473 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: many thanks for being part of our Friday Reporters round table. 474 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: Coming up, we turned back to election day. This is Bloomberg. 475 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew on 476 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Bloomberg sound On has brought to you by 477 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: s EI Crises bring out the best in feeble character, 478 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: community partnership together as one, se I go to s 479 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: E i C dot com slash I m S. The 480 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: deadline just passed for municipal workers in New York to 481 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: prove they got the job at least one vaccination shot 482 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: or unpaid leave. This policy from mayor to Blasio has 483 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 1: been very controversial. As you might suspect, a quarter of 484 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: municipal workers that includes police, firefighters, even sanitation workers refusing 485 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: to take the shot could cause some big interruptions come 486 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: Monday morning. It's become a big issue in the race 487 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: for mayor and ahead of Tuesday's election. I talked about 488 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: it with both candidates, Democrat Eric Adams, the current Brooklyn 489 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: Borough President, and Republican Curtis Sleiva, founder of the group 490 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: The Guardian Angels, the Neighborhood Watch Group. And I want 491 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: to note here to be clear, I spoke with both 492 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: of them before the FDA formally authorized the Fiser vaccine 493 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: for young kids, because I do ask them about how 494 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: this should be handled in schools. Let's start right now 495 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: with Republican Curtis Sliwa. Look, we had the perfect common 496 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: sense approach. If you couldn't be vaccinated, wouldn't be vaccinated? 497 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: Thought and antibodies UH meant you didn't have to be vaccinated, 498 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: test them once a week. They were doing that. But 499 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: the mayor on his way out, like Michael Corleoner, is 500 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: trying to settle all scores. As a result, we will 501 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: not have police, fire department, sanitation personnel. I'm joining them 502 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: today outside of Grace the Mansion because this is an outrage. 503 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: Where is the humanity? We're gonna fire these men and women, 504 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: essential workers, heroes when in the midst of the lockdown 505 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: and pandemic, they with their lives. They gave their lives. 506 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: Now we're gonna fire them, furlough them. That means they 507 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: can't get another job and they won't be able to 508 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,239 Speaker 1: get unemployment. How is how does that make sense? So 509 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: when I'm elect for things vaccine has approved for young children, right, 510 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: we roll back to mandates and we get the workers 511 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: back and we give them back pay for children. I 512 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: have three children in the public school system. I want 513 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: them vaccinated. But we're not gonna kick kids out of 514 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: school because for various reasons, parents don't want them vaccinated. 515 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: You sit down, you get the parents involved, You try 516 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: to convince them that the children should be vaccinated. We 517 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: just kind them back into the public school rooms after 518 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: a year and a half of them playing Fortnite and roadblocks, 519 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: and now we want to take kids out of school. 520 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: That men's words Republican Curtis Leo with the Michael Corleone reference. Now, 521 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: I asked the very same question of Democratic candidate Eric Adams. 522 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: What the mayor must do and I encourage them to 523 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: do if you sit down with the union members use 524 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: the term credible messengers. Uh, they are the credible messengers 525 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: for their members to find out what out of hurdles. 526 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: We have heard the union state often that they believe 527 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: this should be a contractual conversation. It doesn't mean it 528 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: actually take months. Uh. Something that we could do now, 529 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: and I think at this time is the mayor's call 530 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: to make their right decision. I believe the vaccines are 531 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: one of the as potent weapons against COVID. It's going 532 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: to be here a long time, and we could do 533 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: it in a manner that we can reach the finish 534 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: line together. We understand about a quarter of city workers 535 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: have not received a shot. Eric. Is it possible to 536 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: run a city with that many people off the job. 537 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: I know it's not, but you know we are resilient 538 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: as a city and I don't think we have to 539 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: get to that place. I believe that there's a real 540 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: opportunity here. There has been a trend in the last 541 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: few uh hours where the numbers have up kicked, and 542 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: I think that we should see this as a real win. 543 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: A thought thor and thought of the opportunities, and let's 544 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: sit down and come to a conclusive. Our city workers 545 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: want to see the city move forward in the right direction. Uh. 546 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: They're the heroes and heralds of the city. And I 547 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: think that a good conversation can all have all of 548 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: us take a deep breath if we if we move 549 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: past the loud talk, you'll see that we're all saying 550 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: the same things. And I think we should get there together. 551 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: How would you treat schools once a vaccine is available 552 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: for young kids? Would there be a mandate for them 553 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: as well? UM, I am clear that we're going to 554 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: follow this science. I believe this imperative to listen to 555 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: the Department of Health and Mental HIGI, our healthcare professionals, 556 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: the cdc UH. We should not allow these policies to 557 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: be based on our emotions or philosophical beliefs. If the 558 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: science is saying that we should put in place a mandate. 559 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: Then I say, let's do it. Let's speak with the parents, 560 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: Let's give them the understanding. There it is Adams and 561 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: Sliwa on Bloomberg sound on. I want to mention before 562 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: we bring in Scotter Woodhouse for more on this. Curtis 563 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: Leewa was hit by a car today. He was hit 564 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: by a yellow cab in the middle of Manhattan, and 565 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: we have an update on his condition. As I read, 566 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: Curtis has been diagnosed with a fractured left arm, which 567 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: requires a sling. In addition, he has swelling on his 568 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: left knee which will require an east bandage. Very specific. 569 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: There is no internal bleeding. He's currently being fit into 570 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: a sling. He might not feel great when he gets 571 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: up tomorrow. Let's bring in Bloomberg. Scotter Woodhouse has promise 572 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: been covering the New York mayoral race along with the 573 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: New Jersey Governor's race. Skylar, It's great to have you. 574 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: Is this already decided? Um, that's a very just very 575 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: good question. UM. I think overwhelming lead for Eric Adams. 576 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean so for the mayoral race in New York City. Um, 577 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: everyone has been saying that you know Eric Adams really 578 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: has a clear shot at winning here. Um, it will 579 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: be very you know, surprising. It will be a great 580 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: shock too. I think everyone you know, critically well you know, 581 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: was able to kind of pull through and when the election. 582 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: But you know, obviously we'll have to wait to see 583 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: what the results are. But Eric Adams is still you know, 584 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: really pulling forward and it looks like he will you know, 585 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: take the race home. Overwhelming turnout in the latest poll 586 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: that I saw, the Emerson College poll that was out 587 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: before their debate earlier this week. That same poll also 588 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: showed that most people most voters believe crime is the 589 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: number one issue in this race. They both have different 590 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: angles on this. I asked them both about it. Does 591 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: one seemed to be resonating more than another, specifically when 592 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: it comes to crime. This is something courtis Lee has 593 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: been talking about his whole career, making the subway safe. Yeah, 594 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean crime has definitely been rising, you know in 595 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: the city. I mean back during the primaries, I mean, 596 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: all the candidates where you know, prime is the number 597 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: one issue, voters were right and trying about crime, and 598 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: it seems like crime it's just really continued to increase. So, 599 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, both candidates have some sort of policing background, 600 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: and have you been able to kind of say this 601 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: is what we're going to do and this is how 602 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: we're going to do it. I mean Eric Adham, you know, 603 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: he has used the fact that he was you know, 604 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: in the forest for almost like twenty years, and he said, 605 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, we're that we're going and it's a point 606 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: work top um, and you know, we're going to get 607 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: the street safe again, because he's made the point that 608 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: if the streets aren't safe, then companies aren't going to 609 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: want to do business in the city, or if they're 610 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: not already here in the city, moved into the city 611 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: and start their business. I just love the sound of 612 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: the sirens behind you as you talk about crime in 613 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: the city. Schottler, this is it's all good. Okay. So 614 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: that's Tuesday, New York. Talked to us quickly about New 615 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 1: Jersey while you're with us, because I've seen polls showing 616 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: uh the governor, Governor Murphy uh and Shitta Relly essentially tied. 617 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: There's another one that shows Murphy with a nine point 618 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: lead right now in the final days of the governor's race. 619 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: Are these are these noisy numbers or do we have 620 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: a trend here? You know, I think as well, people 621 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: expect the governor Murphy to you know, get that second term. 622 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: And if he, if he were to secure a second term, 623 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 1: he will be the first Democrat and basically and nearly 624 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: like four decades to have a second term as governor 625 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: in this of New Jersey. So you know, that's kind 626 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: of going for him right now. Um, I think for 627 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: Chedder reality it's a bit challenging because you know, he 628 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: has just distanced himself from President Trumps a little bit. 629 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: But you know, I think it's he's been kind of 630 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 1: compared to how will he served as a Republican governor 631 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: when we're seeing what's coming out of Florida and Texas, 632 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: um and New Jersey is such a heavily democratic state 633 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: that it is in Murphy's favor. But again, we'll just 634 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: have to wait and see what really happened. It's a 635 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: great point New Jersey has not reelected a Democrat for 636 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: governor in four decades. It's a remarkable point of trivia here. 637 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: But New Jersey scottar also has a million more Democratic 638 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: than Republican voters. Joe Biden won the state by more 639 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: than sixteen points. If Governor Murphy loses to Jack Chitarelli, 640 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: what does that say about the state of the Democratic Party. Yeah, 641 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: And some people that I've spoken with, it's almost like, 642 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, they say, you know, they say so. Also 643 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 1: when you look at New Jersey, like boo, their senators 644 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: are both Democrat the state senators, so you know, they 645 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: say it's a very democratic state. Only you know, democratic 646 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: senators are elected, but we'll have a Republican governors here 647 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: and there. So I think for like the culture of 648 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: New Jersey, it might not be too shocking to people 649 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: from what they've seen in the past four decades. Um. 650 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: You know, some people might just be thinking, oh, that 651 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: heat that Jack generally is going to win, because that's 652 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: been the trend um for how things have just been 653 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 1: in the state for like I said, four decades. But 654 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: I think we'll have to wait and see. And I 655 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: think also no one really knows what to expect from 656 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: a second term Democrat as governor in the state of 657 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: New Jersey because it hasn't happened in so long. So Democrats, 658 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: you know, they vote their knowmes to vote on the 659 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: early side and publicly go out on election day, so 660 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: We'll have to see what happens with that race so close, Scott, 661 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: are both candidates out on the stump this weekend? You've 662 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: got a busy weekend ahead. Yes, they are out. They're out, 663 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: and they're out and about there, you know, making their rounds. 664 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: They're trying to snag those final votes, um, you know 665 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: for people that are might be undecided or who are 666 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: you know, independent, So they're definitely doing everything that they 667 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: can to secure those final votes so that way, you know, 668 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: they can stay there the next governor. Yes, indeed, skylar Woodhouse, 669 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: Bloomberg skyler Woodhouse covering both of these races. We thank 670 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: you for the insights on this Friday, and thank you 671 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: for spending some time with us on the fastest hour 672 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: in politics. It really is, where does it go? I 673 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: hope the weekend doesn't go that fast. Don't forget to 674 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: get the candy out for the kids, and if you 675 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: know what you're doing, full size candy bars. Happy Halloween. 676 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg