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Speaker 1: Can you talk about the new kickoff M Does that

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Speaker 1: change how you approach building the kickoff or turn teams?

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Speaker 2: Ah?

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Speaker 3: You know, the rule itself is just something we'll just

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Speaker 3: have to get used to. It's like any other rule change.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, you.

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Speaker 3: Just make the adjustments and just keep moving forward. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna keep coaching the guys the same way. It's not

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Speaker 3: gonna change. We're gonna coach up the fundamentals and the techniques.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna actually be the same and we'll just go

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Speaker 3: from there. You know, you just make the adjustments to

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Speaker 3: see what happened.

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Speaker 2: Did you have a voice in the process.

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Speaker 4: I know a lot of specially things coaches didn't favor

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Speaker 2: It is what it is, I mean, you know it

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Speaker 2: is what it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a situation where you just got to

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Speaker 3: deal with what you deal with. What you're dealt with,

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Speaker 3: you know. So these are the cars they gave us,

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Speaker 3: you just.

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Speaker 2: Playing is it you think it increases safety? What I

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Speaker 2: think doesn't matter. You know, it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: So if they think it's to increase safety, then that's,

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Speaker 3: you know, that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Don't say what the criteria is going to be I

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Speaker 1: understand for one year they're going to test it out,

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Speaker 1: that they say what criteria they're going to use in

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Speaker 2: No, they did.

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Speaker 3: Just part of you think, if they're going to do

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Speaker 3: this newter the kickoff, the heck, will it just get

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Speaker 3: rid of the kickoff? I'll never say that because that's

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Speaker 3: my livelihood. Yeah, uh, you know, but.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of what they're halfway doing. Now.

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Speaker 4: How much chatter has there been among we hear a

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Speaker 4: lot of people publicly, you know, stating their displeasure. How

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Speaker 4: much chatter has thered between uh special teams coaches in particular,

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Speaker 4: and that that fraternity that you guys have back.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, no one wants.

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Speaker 3: To lose a part of what you're used to doing

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Speaker 3: go away. You want to be able to, you know,

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Speaker 3: the same kind of impact in the game that you

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Speaker 3: want to have, you know. But again, you just make

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Speaker 3: the adjustments and just keep it moving.

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Speaker 5: You've been in this league obviously long enough. You've seen

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Speaker 5: enough rule changes that have changed the way You've had

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Speaker 5: to do things. Is this one of those things where

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Speaker 5: you know, it kind of puts that flag up that

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Speaker 5: you say, wait a minute, we adjust it to other changes.

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Speaker 5: But this is the kind of thing that can change

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Speaker 5: things for good the way we do things.

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Speaker 2: You know. Again, the situation is what it is. You know,

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Speaker 2: they make the rule changes, we don't.

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Speaker 3: We might not agree with it, but that's just what

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Speaker 3: it is, you know, and we'll govern ourselves accordingly.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's we'll make.

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Speaker 3: The adjustments as a special teams fraternity and just you know,

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Speaker 3: try and keep it moving.

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Speaker 6: How much are you searching for angles maybe on how

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Speaker 3: You know, that's that's something we're always looking for angles

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Speaker 3: as coaches, right, We're always trying to find competitive advantages,

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Speaker 2: Know we'll always try and find those.

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Speaker 3: So we're looking at certain things that we could possibly

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Speaker 6: One of your advantages of Grammits, he's been able to

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Speaker 6: do those kind of short kicks I like the guys

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Speaker 2: Does this kind of make you rethink that is that

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Speaker 2: less effective? Now? Yeah? Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 3: You talked about not wanting to take away you know,

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Speaker 3: do you collectively, specially teams coaches?

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Speaker 2: I mean you feel a little bit like in a

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Speaker 3: That's a really good question.

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Speaker 2: That's a really good question.

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Speaker 4: What do you say to guys like.

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Speaker 6: Just to pick a couple of names, like guys like

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Speaker 6: special teams like, I'm sure they have questions. So how

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Speaker 6: do you how do you explain to them where their

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Speaker 2: It's tough, you know what I mean, Like, it's it's tough.

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Speaker 3: Easy situation when you know, for the most part, you're

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Speaker 3: Naturally you might think, Okay, what is my life? You know,

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Speaker 3: but that's just that's just what it is.

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Speaker 2: Team AC.

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Speaker 1: There are always Team AC.

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Speaker 7: There are always rules changes here and there. In your

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Speaker 7: time as a Special Teams coach and coordinator. Where does

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Speaker 7: this rank in terms of a sea change or true

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Speaker 7: change in roster construction and what you need to do now,

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Speaker 3: Well, you know the roster construction part of it. I

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Speaker 2: You know. All I can do is just as a coach,

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Speaker 2: just make the adjustment with the rule change.

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Speaker 3: You know, the situation is what it is, and can't

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Speaker 2: You just make the adjustment and you keep it moving.

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Speaker 2: You know. As a coach, that's my job.

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Speaker 1: What is the biggest adjustment that you'll have to make?

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Speaker 2: Uh? It just it depends on what the other team does,

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Speaker 3: You know, if they squib it on the ground, if

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Speaker 5: Is that one of those things where maybe it even

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Speaker 5: becomes more calculated early in the season because you just

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Speaker 5: don't know what your opponent is going to do and you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is uncharted territory. I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 3: and you know, it's always gonna be something that's gonna

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Speaker 3: you know. So it's it's one of those deals where

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Speaker 4: How much do you anticipate the philosophy just being hey,

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Speaker 4: ninety nine percent of the time just blessed out?

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Speaker 3: You know, it just depends on on the coach and

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Speaker 3: the organizational philosophies and how they view things. You know,

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Speaker 3: some organizations might choose to do that, some organizations may not,

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Speaker 2: Do you think we'll see more spicks?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I can't predict the future,

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Speaker 3: but I know there are gonna be some teams that'll

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Speaker 3: be aggressive with them.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've been a part.

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Speaker 5: Of the accelerated program that they've put together in nor

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Speaker 2: You know, you've been involved.

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Speaker 5: We've talked to you about head coaching opportunities if they arise,

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Speaker 5: Where do you feel that is right now? The efforts

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Speaker 5: What What are your feelings on that as to where

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Speaker 3: You know, I think the program is an excellent program.

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Speaker 3: I think the exposure to ownership and to be able

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Speaker 3: league and to making sure that this program is successful, because.

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Speaker 2: You know, people are going to hire people that are comfortable.

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Speaker 3: With So if I'm Coach A and they know Coach B,

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Speaker 3: they feel more comfortable with Coach B, They're going to

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Speaker 2: And I think the relationships that are.

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Speaker 3: Being built over time with the program and being able

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Speaker 2: Put a name with a face, I think that's important.

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Speaker 3: And then people doing their due diligence behind the scenes,

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Speaker 3: both coaches and ownership to learn more about the people

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Speaker 3: that they're dealing with in the program. So I think

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Speaker 3: it's moving in the right direction. Is it where we

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Speaker 3: want to be exactly? No, but it's moving in that direction.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 6: Why do you guys had a long snapper and how

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Speaker 6: you plan to handle that competition?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's not so much of a competition.

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Speaker 2: I think it's more of a.

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Speaker 3: Good young player that we identified that can develop over time.

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Speaker 3: And uh, obviously cases of Vetric guy has been around

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Speaker 2: Because he snaps a lot of balls. You know, the

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Speaker 3: But cam Lines is definitely very talented young snapper. Competition,

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Speaker 3: we're trying to find who's gonna be the guy. You know,

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Speaker 3: preseason is gonna be important. You know, it's a long

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Speaker 3: there catching and they're working hard, and you know, we're doing.

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Speaker 2: What you're supposed to Springers, that's something you have. You

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Speaker 3: Game.

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Speaker 2: It looks cute out here in shorts and you know.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the long return, you know, last year you

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Speaker 1: Looking for consistency or how do you plan to approach that?

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Speaker 3: Well, we want to have you know, have to always

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Speaker 3: to have that when you don't when you're changing guys

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Speaker 3: develop players that can play those positions and then have

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Speaker 3: them play those positions consistently. And you know, as a

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Speaker 3: punt return group, they're all just working hard. They're all

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Speaker 3: we got we got a bunch of options and you know,

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Speaker 1: And then just real quick, that lack of consistency you

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Speaker 1: have last year, how much did that affect Jamie?

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, it's holistic. It's not just Jamie.

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Speaker 3: You know, when you look at where he was as

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Speaker 3: we were as a gunner group, I think it's more

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Speaker 2: Able to create some consistency. For sure, it's going to

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