1 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody, Welcome back. The off season continues. Unfortunately, 2 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: we were just talking welcome to uh Andy Martino. He 3 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: was he was mentioning how much he misses working on 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: covering the off season. Andy, is just a tough time 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: to watch baseball and not be in the ballpark. 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: Look, it's it's so much more fun to be there. 7 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: Last year I was bouncing back and forth round after 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: round for the Yankees in the match, you know, both 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: teams that I cover, and like. 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: Oh, the Yankees are playing at home tonight, I'll catch 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 3: this one. 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: Then I'll drive to Philly for the d the NLDS tomorrow, 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: and then of course, beyond the Mets elimination, the Yankees 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: ending up in the World Series. 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: And that's great action. It's great fun. 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: We're told when we cover or in your case, root 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 2: for regular season games, like, oh, it doesn't matter, it's 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: one on one, sixty two. And the thing about the 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: postseason is they can't pretend that it doesn't matter. Every pitch, 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: every decision, every every moment is worth scrutinizing. And so 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 2: that's really a lot of fun to follow a team 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: around the country and do that. So, like we were saying, 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 2: before he went on I have different reasons for being 24 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: down about it. 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 3: I'm not a Yankee or a. 26 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: Met fan, of course, but I'm a fan of covering 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 2: great baseball, so I'd rather be doing that for sure. 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Well, I will say this, some of the best baseball 29 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: that we've seen in recent years has happened this postseason. 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean that game between the Tigers and Yeah and 31 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: the the Ams was amazing, and then you know, Blue 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: Jays MS has been good so far. But I want 33 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about the Yankees because this 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: is a Yankees podcast, and we'll start in the outfield, 35 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: because there's been a lot of talk already about you know, 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger. He opt out, he opted out, he had 37 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: a good year, makes a lot of money. Kyle Tucker 38 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: is a free agent. We know that the Yankees have 39 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: had their eyes on him for a long time. He's 40 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: got great metrics, but his statistics were not quite as 41 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: good this year as Cody Bellinger, which is worth noting. 42 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: How are we looking at this winter. Do you think 43 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: the Yanks is going to be aggressive in trying to 44 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: bring back Cody Bellinger or do you think that they're 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: gonna maybe try and get a little bit younger and 46 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: go for the bigger star, who is Kyle Tucker. 47 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: I know they want Bellinger, that doesn't preclude necessarily them 48 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: wanting to consider a Tucker as well. But I will 49 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: say this, Derek that the I don't think they're gonna 50 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: have signed both, but I don't think it's it's at 51 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: this point, this early, And I want to stress we're 52 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: talking at a time when the Yankees haven't had their 53 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: pro scouting meetings yet, which is the beginning of every 54 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: off season, which is when they really kind of formulate 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: their plan for free agency. I mean, they've had meetings 56 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: internally on free agents since probably August September is per normal, 57 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: but when they really set the course for an off 58 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: seasons the pro scouting meeting. So until they have that, 59 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: I feel like I can't really ask my sources definitively, 60 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: who do you like Tucker or Bellinger? Because they have 61 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: disgusting So I want to put that out there for 62 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 2: every every kind of topic that we hit in one way, 63 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: shape or form, they haven't had those scouting meetings yet. 64 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: Having said that, Bellinger is the absolute perfect ideal of 65 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: the way, the good ways in which the Yankees have 66 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: remade themselves over the past couple of years. You know, 67 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 2: Omar and Ayah, who's not the only person that deserves 68 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: credit for this, but has come in and has really 69 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: been pounding the table with Brian Cashman and the rest 70 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: of the front office about getting more athletic. And you know, 71 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 2: long gone are the days when we're watching Glabor Torres 72 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: throw to Luke Voyd in the infield, or we're watching 73 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: Stanton in the outfield for the most part, or you know, 74 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: they've really become a team of better athletes, which is 75 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: where the game is going more broadly, and something that 76 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: Omar personally is stressed with the Yankees. They became better 77 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: by losing Soto, strangely enough, and part of that is 78 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 2: because of the athleticism and the defense, all of which 79 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: is a rather long winded way to say that Cody 80 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: Bellinger fits them absolutely perfectly. And Tucker's a guy who's 81 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: in a corner, guy now who you could be having 82 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: a DH conversation about within a few years, and that's 83 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: not where the Yankees need to go. He Tucker's an 84 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: upgrade offensively over the course of his career. You correctly 85 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: mentioned this year when he was injured in fairness for 86 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: some of it, numbers weren't as good as Bellingers, but 87 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: you're probably looking at offensive upgrade there. But I think 88 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: it's a real slam dunk it. It's not worth the 89 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: downgrade in defense, and not to mention it'll cost more. 90 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. If it was my money 91 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: and it's not, I would probably go after Cody Bellinger. 92 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: I like that he changes his approach with two strikes, 93 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: something that not a lot of Yankees do. You saw 94 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: a lot of those two strike base hits, just a 95 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: line drive over the shortstop, you know, That's what we 96 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: used to see, and that's what I appreciate. And also 97 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: the fact that he can play four positions well defensively. 98 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: I think it's something that is rare and it has 99 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: a lot of value. I mean, if somebody needs day off, 100 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: it allows you to reconfigure your lineup a little bit 101 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: and still not lose a lot defensively, which is important. 102 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Judge. He conquered his postseason 103 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: demon statistically. You know, he had a big home run, 104 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: he also had a big strikeout or whatever. But the 105 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: thing I'm mostly concerned about is the elbow. He missed 106 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: some time this year they were gingerly treating that. But 107 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: he did throw a ball ninety two miles an hour 108 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, like he was kind of just showing 109 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: the world, Okay, I can do this still. But we 110 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: don't know how he feels. We don't know how the 111 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: Yankees necessarily feel about it. Do you suspect that there's 112 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: a chance he could be getting surgery this offseason? 113 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: He made it sound like it on the way out 114 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: after they lost in the division series. He didn't make 115 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: it sound like it was gonna be a major surgery necessarily, 116 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: But he was asked directly about that and he said, oh, well, probably, 117 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: I remember the exact quote, but it was along the 118 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: lines of like, yeah, we'll probably do something. 119 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: We'll have to look at that. 120 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: I'm not a doctor, you know, sort of not really 121 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 2: answering the question. Not no, I'm good, healed, I'm fine. 122 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: That's definitely not what we heard. So the Yankees and 123 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: their fans, of course, just have to hope that that's 124 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: a little bit of a clean up for something and 125 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: not anything to do speculatively speaking with a ligament or whatnot. 126 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: And the reason I'm even comfortable using the word ligament 127 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: when there's nothing there to suggest that's what's going on. 128 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: Is because when this first happened in July, the Yankees 129 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 2: brass kind of thought that Judge was having Tommy John. 130 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: That was the real fear in Yankee Land for a 131 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: couple of days until the tests showed. Well, we don't 132 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: know exactly what the test showed, so let's be clear 133 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: about that, but they at least showed that he didn't 134 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: need Tommy John immediately. I'm not saying that that's on 135 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: the table right now. I'm just saying that we don't 136 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: know exactly what's on the table And it's not just 137 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: reporters either. 138 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: Judge doesn't like. 139 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 2: To talk about his health or injury updates in season 140 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: with the coaching staff, the manager at the front office, anybody. 141 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 2: It's like, what I've heard is it's like, hey, Judge, 142 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: how you feeling today. I'm ghead and find like, let's 143 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: let's go work. So I can't even say that internally, 144 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: they have a great perception of how he felt through 145 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: this process of being back on the field. So I 146 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: would say it's fair for Yankee Land to await, if 147 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: not anxiously await with the with the actual news drops 148 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: on on what he needs to do. 149 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: It's worth it's worth keeping an eye on. 150 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: Uh. 151 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: Another thing we're keeping an eye on is Anthony Volpey. Now, 152 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: you wrote an article the other day that I read 153 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: and I kind of agree with The Yankees have a 154 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,679 Speaker 1: tough decision to make with Anthony Volpi. Now. He played 155 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the season with a torn labor and 156 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: they say it's kind of an old injury. And he 157 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: had a really down year in terms of batting average 158 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: and getting on base, which is something that you know, 159 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: like it or not fans look to whether or not 160 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: the Yankees think much about those statistics. 161 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: Uh. 162 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: Uh, he played better against Boston. He played great defensively 163 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: throughout the entire postseason. But the a LDS is what's 164 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: going to be fresh and people's mind. One for fifteen 165 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: with eleven strikeouts, and really when you got to two 166 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: strikes against Anthony Volpe, it was kind of an automatic out. 167 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean it was just he he didn't look confident. 168 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: The swings were not good. I don't know how many 169 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: times he threw his bat more than once. So what 170 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on whether or not the Yankees will 171 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: consider Anthony Volpe the starting shortstop? Is it one of 172 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: these situations where he's gonna basically have a chance to 173 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: be like a rookie again, where he has to earn 174 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: the shortstop job in spring training and who else could 175 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: be out there to compete with him. We know Lombard's 176 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: not ready, He's still a couple years away. He didn't 177 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: exactly tear the cover off the ball in the minor leagues. 178 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: You know, Cabi Arra is a guy with an under 179 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: seven hundred ops despite having a ton of stolen basis, 180 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: so that doesn't jump off the screen. What are your 181 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: thoughts on the whole situation. 182 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: Well, my topline thought is Anthony Vobe shouldn't be assumed 183 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: to be the shortstop of the future of next year, 184 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: and the Yankees in those pro scouting meetings need to 185 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: have a real, honest, frank discussion with each. 186 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 3: Other about is this really the direction we can keep 187 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 3: going in. 188 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: That's fair, Anthony Volpi's earned that unfortunately or whatever the 189 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: opposite or is. You know from his performance, it's time 190 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: to have that thought and have that conversation. But as 191 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: you mentioned there, it's it's not so easy. It's to 192 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: be a fan can be like get rid of this bomb? 193 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: That's the fans job. The front office's job, of course, 194 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: is to be like, Okay, what are we going to 195 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: do that we're better? I mentioned in that article too, 196 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: like twenty home run hitting shortstop with decent defense, except 197 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: you know, there's obviously some defensive issues this year, but 198 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 2: we're all an okay defender. I wouldn't call him a 199 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: gold Glove defender, even though that's literally true. But they 200 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: have to make sure that there's that they have a 201 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 2: better alternative, and they might get caught in a little 202 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: bit of a no man's land there, because, like you mentioned, 203 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: I don't think they have anybody in the organization certainly 204 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: that's not Lombard. 205 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 3: Is not ready. 206 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: I think there's a reason we should look as far 207 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: as Kyprierra goes really closely, why wasn't he the starting 208 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: shortstop in the playoffs? Because even though either some people 209 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: in that organization that would have done that, But the 210 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: reason that Aaron Boone decided to stick with Volpi through 211 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: the playoffs was a little bit of faith in Volpi, 212 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: I guess, but mostly about we're the best team. He's 213 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: thinking when Volpi's starting, and when Cabrierro is my Swiss 214 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: army knife on the bench, the pinch runner, the defensive replacement, 215 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 2: the guy that can play third sometimes, you know, the 216 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 2: guy that can do all kinds of different things. And 217 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: if you lock him in as you're starting shortstop, what's Vulpi? 218 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: He's not accustomed to any of those roles. So the 219 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: best thing, even if Volpi's suboptimal, is to have a 220 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: starting shortstop and cabal Hero. That's that's I think the 221 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: best way to use Cabiro. And you're absolutely right to 222 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: mention the fact that he's never been a hitter, Cabri Hero, 223 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: but what he is is a guy who knows how 224 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: to play shortstop. It's a shame that Oswell Proza didn't 225 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 2: develop because he's that guy too. You put him on 226 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: a shortstop and you're like, whoa, what was that throw? 227 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 2: You know, like after watching Volpi for a couple of 228 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: years and there's just presence at that position that Volpi 229 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: doesn't always have. So the Yankees need to look around. 230 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: There's no obvious free agents. Obviously, there are always trade 231 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: possibilities that we haven't thought of, but I think they 232 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: need to be open minded and exploring that this winter 233 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: for sure. Maybe it ends with Volpe's our best option, 234 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: but they need to look into it. 235 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm leaning towards the same thing. I think 236 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: that they might just be forced to give him one 237 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: more shot. You know, you mentioned the arm strength. That's 238 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: something that really stood out to me. When the Yankees 239 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: picked up Cabal arrow Is, it was like a pinball machine. 240 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: Ground ball is short and boom, it takes off towards 241 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: first base. Whereas Volpi it really seemed like he had 242 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: to put a lot of effort in the throws to 243 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: get it across, whereas you know, some of those guys, 244 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, Piazza you mentioned, just a nice loose arm 245 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: motion and the ball just sails chest high across the infield. 246 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: I think that's something that you Yankees could benefit from, 247 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: just a little bit more of a natural fielding shortstop. 248 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: A lot of people have always felt that Volpi profiles 249 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: better as a second baseman just his body type. You know, 250 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: coming up, he kind of had that Pedroia look and 251 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: he has that Paedoya type of approach where he's swinging 252 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: very very hard. Are there concerns about his ability to 253 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: like what type of hitter he wants to be? 254 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 4: Like? 255 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: You know, I know fans would prefer he did something 256 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: like it two fifty to sixty with less power, right 257 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: and get on base and use his legs. Whereas the 258 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: Yankees are really looking at you know, we think this 259 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: guy can hit the ball four hundred and thirty feet. 260 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: Let's let him try and do it. 261 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: Look, they want him to have more of an approach. 262 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: Of course, he'd be a better player if he did, 263 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: but to hit two fifty two sixty with. 264 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: Fewer home runs. 265 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: In order to ask Anthony Volti to do that, really 266 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: commit to that, they'd have the Yankees have to change 267 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 2: the entire pace structure of the sport, right, I mean, 268 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 2: he'd be pretty stupid to chase batting average at a 269 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: time when home runs. 270 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: Get you paid. 271 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but that that that's like, 272 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: there's no incentive to become that player. 273 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: If you're any player, what about winning? 274 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: That guy? You just that's not an incentive. 275 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: I think that's the problem there with the modern game. 276 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: Winning not an inventive. 277 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: But you know, I'm being somewhat facetious, but truly, if 278 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 2: you're looking at her and you're living in the game, 279 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: and you could chase batting average or chase power, nine 280 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: point nine guys out of ten are going to choose 281 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: the latter, and a team might There are teams that 282 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: would make the argument that that's also you out home 283 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: or another team you win. So I'm not making it 284 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: as binary as winning versus money. But when we talk 285 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: about batting average at a time when that's never been 286 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 2: less value to the sport, that'd be a tough thing 287 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: to have them go after go after. 288 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: I think I want to talk a little bit about 289 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: the first base situation because somebody who really stepped up 290 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: this year was obviously Ben Rice twenty six home runs, 291 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: had a big home run in the postseason. Hy Metrically, 292 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: he looks amazing. I mean, he's near the top of 293 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: the chart in almost everything. This is a guy who 294 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: could have a real future now. He also catches. They 295 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: have Austin Well, so I think that they're probably aiming 296 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: towards him being the everyday first baseman. But you're losing 297 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: something with gold Schmidt, right because he hit lefties very well. 298 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: Rice doesn't hit lefties quite as well. Who do the 299 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: Yankees potentially see as somebody who could supplement Rice as 300 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: the first baseman maybe against some of those tough lefties. 301 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: Is there someone out there that could do the job. 302 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: Is this the situation where maybe Judge takes some reps 303 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: at first base and you play him at first next year. 304 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: That saves the arm a little bit and it allows 305 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: you to maybe get some more flexibility in the outfield. 306 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: What's the solution that you think that the Yankee should 307 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: look at for first base? 308 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: Knowing the Yankees, I don't know, they're gonna be as 309 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: concerned with platoon splits at first as they will be 310 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: a defense. And so in the Yankee way, so to speak, 311 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: which is literally a ranking that they developed in the 312 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: eighties of the most important tools for each position and 313 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: have tried to keep as the north star in the 314 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: forty some years since they believed that first base defense 315 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: is really important. It's the third highest quality I believe 316 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: for a first baseman, and a lot of teams would 317 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: maybe put it fourth or fifth. The one time the 318 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: Yankees really got away from first base defense in a 319 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: long term way was Jason Chiambi because they felt that 320 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: his on basis power as leadership made that a worthwhile 321 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: trade off. They got away from it a little with 322 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: Void obviously, then pivoted to Rizzo because of what I'm 323 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: talking about. So they also know, like any smart team knows, 324 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: that defensive metrics are not ready yet to be taken 325 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: very seriously. So you could look at Goldschmith's defense and 326 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: say that he wasn't a plus defender at first this 327 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: year at baseball savant, but he was, Like we watched 328 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: the games. 329 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: He's good out there. And Rice is learning. All the 330 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: credit in the world to Ben Rice. 331 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's learning first base in the major 332 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: leagues over the past couple of years. It's incredible. But 333 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: the Yankees can't make him their everyday first baseman. Well 334 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: they can, but they they it would be against their 335 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: value system. Of a sneaky way you win is by 336 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: having a guy that can pick it at first base. 337 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: So the answer there, I think, is to have Rice 338 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: keep working at it. He really was not very good 339 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: at the scoops on the low Vopie throws. It all 340 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: comes together, right, It all connects to different parts of 341 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: the diamond. Bopie's army is short. Goldschmid's playing VOPI doesn't 342 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: have an error. Ryce is playing BOPI might maybe has 343 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: an error because Rice doesn't scoop it as well. He 344 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: got better at that and he works hard, he might 345 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: be able to get better continuously over the course of 346 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: his career with this. So I think the way to 347 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: do that is to replace Goldschmid with a guy that 348 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: can play defense at first. I mean, maybe is a 349 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: defensive replacement type. Maybe Bellinger is that guy. I understand 350 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: there's not a platoon advantage there, but you could always 351 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: move Bellinger to first base in the late innings or 352 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: give him the occasional start at first base. He's a 353 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: plus defender there too. Came up as a first baseman, 354 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: as obviously you know, Rice probably is suited to the 355 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 2: role that he's in now, which is a weird role. 356 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 2: You got the backup catcher slash most of the time, 357 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: first baseman slash DH. It's it's not a common job 358 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: in baseball. But I actually think it works for him, 359 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 2: and and that's how the Yankees should probably think of it. 360 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: Am I crazy to think Ben Rice has forty home 361 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: runs in him next year or soon? 362 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: They're actually not absolutely not crazy. No, this guy's a 363 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: legit middle of the order major league bat. We see 364 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: how hard he hits the ball. He's got a plan 365 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: up there, good at bats, hits it hard. They gotta 366 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 2: find the at bats. But I think it might be, 367 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 2: like I said, might be less about settling him, like, 368 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 2: all right, let's figure out what his long term position 369 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: is and settle them there, versus, Hey, this works what 370 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: he's doing now, It's not Normally your backup catcher is 371 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: usually a jc ASCAA type, not usually the guy who 372 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: sometimes catches and also hits forty from first base. But hey, 373 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: this is who ben Rice maybe is. He's a bat 374 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: who you gotta find it bet for. And I don't 375 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 2: love him every day at any position, so why not 376 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: move him around? 377 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: Thanks a great take. One thing the Yankees definitely need 378 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: to work on is improving the bullpen. I think it 379 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: would just given the state of you know, the coronary 380 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: situation in America, a lot less heart attacks with a 381 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: much more reliable bullpen. Devin Williams got off to a 382 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: bad start, no doubt about it. But there's also no 383 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: doubt that he was tremendous in September and he had 384 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: some really big outs in the postseason. Is there a 385 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: chance the Yankees bring him back and to solidify this bullpen? 386 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean, are their internal options? Do they maybe take 387 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: a couple of these young starters like a Legron Hay, 388 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: like an Elma Rodriguez Cruz. Take some of these guys 389 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: that are starters and do the old Mariano Rivera trick 390 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: and put him in the bullpen as power relievers, the 391 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: Phil Hughes trick, you know that type of thing. 392 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 2: I think they'd rather find the answer to both of 393 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: your questions is they'd rather find more under the radar guys. 394 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 2: I mean really, starting with I guess Chad Greenankees pro 395 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 2: scouts and analytics people, and then pitching Matt Blake and 396 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 2: the pitching staff have been unbelievable in their collaboration with 397 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 2: finding relievers and turning them into studs. Sometimes it lasts, 398 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 2: like in the case of Green or Tommy Kainley. Kinley 399 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 2: was a veteran when they got him, but they really 400 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 2: got a lot out of them for a couple of stints. 401 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: Some guys don't last, like Ian Hamilton, but he gave 402 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: them some good leverage in the meantime. 403 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 3: So the Yankees don't would prefer not to spend. 404 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: Big in free agency on relievers because they think they're 405 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: good at doing it on the. 406 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: On a budget. I would probably categorize Williams. 407 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: In that respect, I wouldn't completely rule it out, but 408 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: that was a pretty rough, bumpy year that they just 409 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: nursed him through. Maybe you feel like, all right, we 410 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: got through that challenging year with him, do. 411 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: We really want to run that back. I could see 412 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 3: them thinking that. 413 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't just a start, right, He recovered 414 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: from his bad start, and then he had a really 415 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: rough patch again. 416 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 3: Remember all the controversy. 417 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 2: I want to say it was like August when Boom 418 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: was using him in like the fifth inning and everyone's like, how. 419 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 3: Could you use him in the fifth inning? 420 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 2: He sticks like I'm trying to keep him on a 421 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: leverage but like you know, he's on the team. 422 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: It was really bad late and then it got great. 423 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: Like you said, I'm not sure I want to go 424 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: back there if i'm then, And as far as they're 425 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: younger guys, I think that's a big decision, converting a 426 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: promising starter into a reliever. You can tell yourself that 427 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: it's temporary, but as we know, in the case of 428 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: a job at Chamberlain, sometimes temporary becomes permanent and you're 429 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: blown the potential starting career. 430 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: So that's never the first choice. 431 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: I don't think unless they've determined that a guy is 432 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: going to have like a two pitch guy and should 433 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: be a reliever, I don't think they want to move 434 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: guys in and out of the bullpen ideally. 435 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: Well, one more question here while I've still got you, 436 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: and then I'll let you go. Jason Domingez, this is 437 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: a guy who you know was a top prospect. He 438 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: obviously didn't play much down the stretch. He had that 439 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: double in his final back of the Alds. I'm hoping 440 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: that that's kind of a foreshadow of the guy we 441 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: can look forward to playing next year. I joked that 442 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: I think he's got more of a contact approach, and 443 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: maybe that's why the Yankees don't like him. I thought 444 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: he would have more power. He did have a three 445 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: home run game, and occasionally he'll show big time power. 446 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: One thing that thing holds him back because he hits 447 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: a lot of balls as a left hander in the 448 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: air to left field, which is what you want to 449 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: do as a player in Yankee Stadium, and obviously the 450 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: right handed bat struggled. What do you sense the Yankees 451 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: are feeling internally about Jason Domingez in his future next year? 452 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: Is he gonna take over as a full time role 453 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: or is that something where they're thinking, oh, maybe we're 454 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: not as high on him as we used to be. 455 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: Well, it's hard to be as high on him as 456 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: one used to be, right. Unfortunately, it's been a couple 457 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: of lost years and he's had opportunities. He could have 458 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: taken the job from Alex Dugo last fall and he 459 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: just couldn't catch the ball enough to play in the playoffs. Oever, 460 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: do go he had some runway this year. I mean 461 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: Trent just kind of went off. That was more about 462 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: Grisham solidifying playing time in the outfield probably than it 463 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 2: was about Dominguez. But he really hasn't had regular playing time. 464 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: Of course, their opportunity in quite a while. He's really talented. 465 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: You just when we see flashes of it, we know. 466 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: I never felt like I saw a flash of Clint 467 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 2: Frazier that was like when you see it with Domingez, 468 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: like wow, I see it. 469 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: So there's certainly not ready to give up on him. 470 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: Obviously it's a terrible time to trade him there they 471 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: are maybe drifting into that zone of like, oh crap, 472 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: we should have traded him when he had value. 473 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: If we're not going to use him. 474 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: They're not all the way there yet because like I said, 475 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: you can see that the talent's there, so I think 476 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: the playing time will depend on I mean, at the moment, 477 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 2: they don't have any outfielders. They have Judge Grisham's a 478 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 2: free agent, Bellander is a free agent, right, They literally 479 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: like that. 480 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 3: There's six hundred bats straight there for Domingez. 481 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 2: But they're gonna do something and and and in the 482 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: off season with the outfield. 483 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: So until they do that, it will be hard for us. 484 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: I guess'd identify exactly how many of bats the Mingaz 485 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: is going to get and where and how. But that's 486 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: kind of where it's at now, is that they're not 487 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: off of him. But he certainly has become less central 488 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 2: to the conversation around the Yankees than he was two 489 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: years ago. There's no sugarcoating in that. 490 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: Well. In the words of Fox Molder, I want to believe. 491 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: So thank you, Andy Martino. Go follow Andy on ax 492 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: Riata's column on the Yankees off season Blueprint, he READI 493 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: to rate a lot of stuff here, but there's some 494 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: things we didn't touch on. Andy. I'm gonna let you go. 495 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: I gotta give a word of the sponsor, and then 496 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: we'll be back to take some voicemails. Appreciate it, all. 497 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: Right, Derek, Thanks. 498 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: All right. Just a reminder that Pinstripe Territory is presented 499 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: by Fox one and all playoff coverage is brought to 500 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: you by Fox One. You can watch the alcs on 501 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: Fox One right now. The Mariners beating the Blue Jays, 502 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: and you know what, right out of the gate, I 503 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: was rooting for the Blue Jays, but the way they 504 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: talked crap. I mean, some of you guys who called 505 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: in kind of won me over. And also I think 506 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: it would be really cool. I was talking to Terrence 507 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: about this. To see the Mariners go to the World 508 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: Series and maybe even win their first World Series. That 509 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: would be really cool for the city. I love their ballpark. 510 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: The one guy I just can't stand to have any 511 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: success because he always killed the Yankees was Randy Rose Arena. 512 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: But it's good to see him beating up on somebody 513 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: else on other teams. And the Mariners they have great pitching. 514 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna be tough to beat. Yasavich started 515 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: today for the Blue Jays and obviously did not have 516 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: the kind of game that he had against the Yankees. 517 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: He went four innings, four hits, five earned runs, three walks, 518 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: four strikeouts, so that raised his postseason era up to 519 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: four point eight two. Vladimir Guerrero o for three in 520 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: that game, and Juyo Rodriguez and Polanco both went deep 521 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: for the m So if you want to catch all 522 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: of that, you can check it out on Fox One. 523 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: From MLB postseason to NFL on Fox to Big Noon Saturdays. 524 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: With Fox One, you will get it all live. Start 525 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: your seven day free trial today offers our subject to change. 526 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: Go to foxwe dot com for complete terms and conditions. 527 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: Fox One streaming now. And as Doug Rouse says, their 528 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: ballpark in Seattle is amazing. I actually played an MLB 529 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: franchise with them one time, just because I love their ballpark. 530 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: So all right, let's go ahead and take a few comments. Here. 531 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 5: Here's Mac, Hi, Derek, This is Mac from Pennsylvania. I 532 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 5: don't know what the offseason is going to bring. I 533 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 5: know we had a better team this year than we 534 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 5: had last year, but I'll just make this comment. When 535 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 5: a team plays such fundamentally poor defense as we did 536 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 5: this year and last year, that responsibility rests with the manager. 537 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 5: The manager gets these players, he has several weeks to 538 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 5: get them ready, and then his coaching staff and himself 539 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 5: is responsible for the way they play. We played such 540 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 5: fundamentally for baseball. There is no doubt that the person 541 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 5: responsible for that lack of good fundamental baseball play is 542 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 5: Aaron Boone, and we need we need to replacement manager. 543 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 5: That's my comment. 544 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: Well, is my understanding. They're not going to replace Aaron Boone. 545 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: He's got two years under contract. If they missed the 546 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: playoffs next year, that's always a possibility. But otherwise I 547 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: can see them letting these two years, you know, basically 548 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: run out and and maybe not firing him, but just 549 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: not bringing him back the way they didn't bring back Girardi. 550 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: That's kind of what it looks like to me, assuming 551 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: Yankees don't win a championship in the next two years. 552 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: If they win a championship, you can expect Boone to 553 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: get another extension. Here's John for Florida. 554 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 4: Hey, Derek John from Florida. It's been well published eyes 555 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 4: that the Blue Jays beat the Yankees do to they're 556 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 4: hitting philosophy, putting the ball in play, making contact, putting 557 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 4: the pressure on the defense, And you've mentioned that now 558 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 4: that the Yankees have been eliminated, you're going to root 559 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 4: for the Blue Jays because you know it'd be nice 560 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 4: to see Donnie Baseball don Mattingley get his first ring. 561 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 4: I think what hasn't been talked about enough is that 562 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 4: Mattingly's role with the Blue Jays is the hitting coach. 563 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 4: And as a player, he had one of the lowest 564 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 4: strikeout rates in baseball and won a batting title simply 565 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 4: because he makes contact and puts the ball in play. 566 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 4: And I think that, you know, it's underrated or not 567 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 4: talked about enough, how much of a significant contribution his 568 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 4: role with the Blue Jays is playing. 569 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm gonna stop you right there. Mattingly is 570 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: not the hitting coach. Mattingly is the bench coach. Their 571 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: hitting coach is David Popkin Now maddingly was the hitting 572 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: coach for the Yankees back in two thousand and four. 573 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: I remember when the Yankees got a Rod and Sheffield, 574 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: the talk was, you know how great the lineup was 575 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: gonna be, And I remember they asked, maddingly, what are 576 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: you gonna do with this lineup? How are you gonna 577 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: make them better? And he said, my job now is 578 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: a bus driver. I just got to get everybody to 579 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: the ballpark. But I always liked his philosophy of you 580 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: want to maximize the hot streaks and keep them going 581 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: for as long as possible, and minimize the cold streaks 582 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: for as long as possible. That's how he saw hitting, 583 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: and that's didn't start. Contrast to what the Yankees even 584 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: believe now, which is they don't believe hot or cold 585 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: are a thing, which I totally disagree, which is, you know, 586 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: it's easy to see when someone's ice cold, their swing 587 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: is off balanced. They're just you know, watch a red 588 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: hot Stanton and watch an ice cold Stanton and tell 589 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: me hot and cold don't exist. I don't buy it. 590 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: All right, ladies and gentlemen, thanks for watching. Thanks again 591 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: to Andy Martino. Like subscribe. I'll be back later on 592 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: this weekend this week with Frankie Baseball to talk a 593 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: little Yankees Mount rushmore. Until then, we'll see you next time. 594 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: If you enjoyed this content, please hit that like button 595 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: and subscribe. Check out YY Designs dot Shop for some 596 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: great merch support our sponsors. 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