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Speaker 1: the season. All right, let's talk some basketball. So the

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Speaker 1: Nuggets ran into a buzzsaw last night. They the Knicks

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Speaker 1: physical ball pressure. They set a tone, They get guys

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Speaker 1: Like I really like the Precious Chewa inclusion in that trade,

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Speaker 1: such a rim deterrent, right, So, like Dante Devinceenzo Ognnobi

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Speaker 1: aggressively and more successfully than any team in the league.

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Speaker 1: They were already the number one offensive rebounding team in

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Speaker 1: to Chua in particular, has been really, really good in

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Speaker 1: their offensive rebounding attack. He's getting something crazy like thirteen

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Speaker 1: I want to say like six offensive remits, like five

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Speaker 1: just added another layer to that attack. Right, they hit you.

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Speaker 1: They hit you, and they hit you and they hit you,

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Speaker 1: and you get tired and you miss shots. There's a

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Speaker 1: Opponents are shooting just thirty one percent from three against

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Speaker 1: the Knicks since the trade. That's the second best mark

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Speaker 1: just thirty six percent on those wide open threes, which

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Speaker 1: sure Steph doesn't take this shot? Right? So there's that

428
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: probably ends in a double team in someone else shooting

429
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 1: the ball anyway, right, But then the upside for the

430
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: Warriors is they can be better organized. So, for instance,

431
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: like Jonathan Kaminga, when Steph got trapped and blitzed and

432
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: was being dragged out to that like left side over

433
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 1: by half court, Jonathan Kminga was all the way in

434
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: the right corner and so like your second best offensive

435
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: player on this particular night, was in a position where

436
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 1: he could do absolutely nothing to help you in that

437
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: final possession. Whereas if Steve Kerr draws up the play,

438
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 1: he probably draws it up in a way that involves

439
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: a two man game for Steph and Jonathan Kamingo or

440
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: Jonathan Kaminga is at least involved in some way, shape

441
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: or form, even maybe just as a as a decoy. Right,

442
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: So like that's the upside to potentially calling a time out, right,

443
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: But like there's a version of that where you call

444
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: a time out, you have Jka set the ball screen,

445
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: here comes the blitz. Steph does the exact same thing

446
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: where he tries to use a behind between the legs, retreat,

447
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: dribble to try to escape the blitz, and maybe he

448
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 1: turns it over again. Right, So, like to me, it's

449
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 1: not really worth focusing on. And the whole point behind

450
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,479
Speaker 1: not calling a timeout is your breeding chaos. And like

451
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: Steph is one of the best chaos players in the

452
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: history of basketball. So like, if I was in that

453
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: position as the coach of the team, I'm probably looking

454
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: at that going, you know, six or seven seconds left,

455
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 1: Steph has the ball, or I think it was like

456
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty seconds whatever it was, But Steph has

457
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 1: the ball, it's a chaotic environment, Like I trust him, right, Like,

458
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: if there's one thing you could say, it's like when

459
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: Steph was sprinting away from that blitz, maybe then you

460
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: look to call a time out, just because in general,

461
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 1: it's really difficult to with six seconds left get the

462
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: ball out of a blitz without the tip pass getting tipped,

463
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: or without the pass having to be super looping and

464
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: allowing a rotation, and then to somehow get a shot

465
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: out of that, right, So like, if anything, he should

466
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 1: have called the time out after the blitz. But again,

467
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: that's a split second set of circumstances. So again I'm

468
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: not really of the opinion that that's what should be

469
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: focused on. But that ends up being how the Warriors

470
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: lose the game in heartbreaking fashion as Steph dribbles the

471
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: ball off his foot and deeron Fox runs down and

472
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, after the final buzzer attempts a three to

473
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: sixty win mill and gets rim stuffed. But excellent win

474
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: for the Sacramento Kings. First time winning in Golden State

475
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: in the regular season since twenty twenty, which is crazy,

476
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: and the Kings have been a little Jekyll and Hide

477
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: over the course of the last couple of months, but

478
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: they are a really good team. Darreon Fox is one

479
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: of the best players in the league, and especially that

480
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: pull up three point shot has been the driving force

481
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: of so much of his success this season. But what

482
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about in this particular game was

483
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: Jonathan Kaminga, because he's taken a leap right four eyes

484
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: last five games, averaging twenty six points and six rebounds

485
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: on sixty five percent from the field, fifty six percent

486
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: from three, and eighty one percent from the line, and

487
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: on the basketball side of things, just no one can

488
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: keep him in front off the dribble like he's doing

489
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: most of this in like straight ISOs, straight post ups

490
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: and transition rim runs, like it's all his ridiculous combination

491
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: of size and quickness. Right, it's actually ironic because Kaminga

492
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: turned the ball over in a late post up of

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00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: Harrison Barnes on the right block where I almost thought

494
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: he was too quick for his own good. He made

495
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 1: this aggressive move towards the middle and Harrison Barnes was

496
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: trying to cut him off, but Kaminga spun back to

497
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: his left before Harrison Barnes could get there, and so

498
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: he ended up spinning right into Harrison Barnes while also

499
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: taking contact from Sabonis and middle help, and Kaminga struggles

500
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: to see middle help. Sometimes totally normal for a young player, right,

501
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: and especially one who kind of plays on an island

502
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: the way that Jonathan Kaminga does. He actually had a

503
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: turnover A few possessions earlier were similar play where he

504
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: kind of drove middle and did not see middle help.

505
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: But again, like he's so damn quick that he had

506
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 1: Harrison Barnes beat and counter moved back into Harrison Barnes

507
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: before Harrison Barnes could finish being beat, which goes to

508
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: show you just how incredible his athletic tools are. And

509
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: then you combine that with ridiculous rim finishing. He's shooting

510
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: sixty seven percent at the rim this year, which for

511
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: a young wing is incredible. He's great at drawing fouls.

512
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: He's easily been the second best offensive player on the

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Speaker 1: Warriors over the course of the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: I say all that to say this, things are getting

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Speaker 1: really complicated on this Jonathan Kaminga front. Now before Warriors

516
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Speaker 1: fans go like, oh, Jason, you're flip flopping like you

517
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: said you should trade him. This is new stuff. This

518
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: is new information. To give you an idea, Jonathan Kaminga

519
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: has gone for twenty plus points in five straight games.

520
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: He had never even had two in a row before

521
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: this stretch. He had thirteen to twenty point games in

522
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: his career before that point, never consecutively. So this last

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00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: week and a half or two weeks sample of Jonathan

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00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: Kaminga being like twenty six and six, a consistent twenty

525
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: point a game. Guy, this is new. This is not

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Speaker 1: This is not some sort of like trend that's been

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00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: taking place forever. And so basically what I'm saying is

528
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: is Jonathan Kaminga is playing himself through his own leap

529
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: into making the Warrior situation complicated now to me because

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Speaker 1: I've also been preaching all in a lot on the

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Speaker 1: Lakers front, and like the Lakers and the Warriors situations

532
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: are pretty different, right, Like the versions of trades that

533
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: I've been pitching for the Lakers involved D'Angelo Russell. You know,

534
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: it was really good, But like, like Jonathan Kaminga is

535
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: as an asset around the league, like many orders of

536
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: magnitude of higher value. Right, It's like the Lakers are

537
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: looking at giving up d Lo and a distant draft pick.

538
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: It's not the same as giving up jo the Kaminga.

539
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: The Warriors are looking at giving up a guy who

540
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: could be on the rise to superstardom right before our eyes. Right,

541
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: Lebron James is thirty nine years old. Steph Curry is

542
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: thirty five, So there's a little bit different level of urgency, right.

543
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: The Lakers are also just closer to contention, right, Like

544
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: they're higher in the standings. They have twelve wins against

545
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: five hundred to better teams. The Warriors only have seven.

546
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: So for the Lakers, it's pretty simple, like, of course

547
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: you want to trade Dangela Russell and a future draft

548
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: pick to try to win it all this year. But

549
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: for the Warriors it's officially complicated as Jonathan Kaminga has

550
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: continued to get better and better while the trade options

551
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: have gotten worse and worse. It's like og and Obi's

552
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: off the table, right, and then it's like, oh wait,

553
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: Pascal Siakam's now off the table, you know, like all

554
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: of these little even just Terry Rogier off the table.

555
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: It's like all these options are diminishing while the trade

556
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: value or future potential of Jonathan Kaminga is skyrocketing, and

557
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: as that is happening, it's just making things more and

558
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: more complicated. And now I'm not sure it is worth

559
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: it to make an all in move for the Warrior.

560
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: So the question is what do you do? And in

561
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: my opinion, it's complicated because as Kminga's potential becomes more interesting,

562
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: you have to remember that Steph plays a role in this.

563
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: Steph is one of the ten greatest players of all time.

564
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: I think he's the fifth best perimeter player in modern

565
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: basketball history. I have him just behind Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant,

566
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: Lebron James, and Michael Jordan. And he's thirty five years old.

567
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: He's having a down season, but I'm not necessarily concerned

568
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: about whether or not he's still Steph. I think he's

569
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: still Steph. And so there's like this certain element where

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00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: it's like, you owe it to Steph to try. But

571
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: at the same time, Jonathan Kaminga is officially looking like

572
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: he's too good to be traded, So how do you

573
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: weigh that? And my answer is you got to do

574
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: something a little bit on the kind of like ancillary

575
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: level of moves. And so I got a couple that

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00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: I offered Moses Moody and Gary Payton, the second for

577
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: Dorian Finney Smith. So basically turning bench wing and a

578
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: guard that can't stay healthy into a three and D player,

579
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: like a legitimate three and D player that you could

580
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: start at the three next to Jonathan Kaminga and improve

581
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: the spacing of the team and improve Like I think

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00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins has been playing pretty well over the last

583
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: couple of games. I thought he did a good job

584
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: on to Jonte Murray in the Hawks game. I thought

585
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: last night he had a couple of huge above the

586
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: break threes and made some plays with his athleticism on

587
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: the offensive glass and around the rim, Like I think

588
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: Wiggins is trying to figure it out, but like Dorian Phinney,

589
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: Smith would just be kind of like more of a

590
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: steady option in that sort of way, and that obviously

591
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: maintains Wiggins on the roster as a bench wing and

592
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: an option you can go to if Jonathan Kanminga does

593
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: turn into a player that struggles in the playoffs. Could

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00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: say other part of this, like, as much as my

595
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: optimism surrounding Kaminga's star potential has improved, do I think

596
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: he's going to be a star in the playoffs this year. No,

597
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: but that's just how NBA history works. Like, you're unless

598
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: you're one of the truly all time greats, you know,

599
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: the guys like Kevin Durant, Right, Like, unless you're one

600
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: of those guys, you don't just walk into the playoffs

601
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 1: in your early twenties and dominate. This is not how

602
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: it works, right, So, Like, I don't necessarily think Jonathan

603
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: kming is gonna be some playoff star right away, but

604
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: his potential in the long run is what's making this complicated,

605
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: And so having Wiggins on the roster still is a value.

606
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: Drianfinny Smith gives you another wing, so that's option one.

607
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: You could also offer the same package for Tias Jones

608
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: if you're looking for offensive creation, like once again this year,

609
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: like Jonathan Minga being basically your second best offensive player

610
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: not named Steph, although Clay's starting to play better too,

611
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: But like you can argue Clay and Jonathan Kaminga as

612
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: your other offensive options next to Steph is not great,

613
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,239
Speaker 1: right Tyas Jones has been one of the best pick

614
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: and role players in the league this year. He's getting

615
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: one point one to two points per possession that rank

616
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: sixth out of thirty six players to run at least

617
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: four hundred. I think that's a deal that you could

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00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: get done just based solely on the value of him

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00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: Moody and what that could mean for the for the

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00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: for the Wizards. Right, So, like those are just a

621
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: couple of options. Now do those put the Warriors into contention?

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00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: Probably not, But like I said, you owe it to

623
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: Steph to try. You owe it to Steph to try

624
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: to give him more to contend with. But the bottom

625
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: line is it's the rise of Jonathan Kminga. Even though

626
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: it complicates this regular season as it pertains the timeline,

627
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: it's undeniably a good thing outside of the context of

628
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: this season. Like he looks to be on a star

629
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: trajectory in a very two way sense, and like to

630
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: put it simply, at the beginning of this year, it's

631
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: like Jonathan Kaminga can be a star. Like that's his

632
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: potential now, Like is like it looks like he's headed

633
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: that way, and that to me is a big leap

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00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: in a positive direction for the Warriors. All Right, moving

635
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 1: on to our mailbag. First question, in your opinion, what

636
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: has happened to Jordan Poole is his steep decline in

637
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: overall play all about his attitude to his new situation

638
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: or his skills that much heightened by playing with Steph

639
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: in the Warriors system. So, for disclaimer up front, I

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Speaker 1: haven't watched a ton of Wizards basketball this year. I've

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Speaker 1: only watched a couple of their games. But here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: And I started to notice this last year. In the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two season, Jordan Poole played a very under

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Speaker 1: control brand of basketball. He did occasionally take tough shots,

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Speaker 1: but he was playing more within the flow of the offense.

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Speaker 1: Starting last year and then extending into this year, Jordan

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Speaker 1: Poole has been leaning into like almost like his brand

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Speaker 1: as being like this very flashy is the wrong word.

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Speaker 1: I hate the negative connotations of it, but let's just

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Speaker 1: call it beautiful, like focusing on the aesthetics of basketball, right,

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Speaker 1: And like, here's the thing like making tough shots, is

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Speaker 1: it looks great, you know, hitting that wild spin move

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Speaker 1: into that turnaround fade away. Man, that makes for a

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Speaker 1: great Instagram reel. And I'm not downplaying that. I love

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Speaker 1: that beauty in the game as well, but basketball is

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Speaker 1: usually more productive when it's boring, and Jordan Poole actually

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Speaker 1: has a lot of the capability to play some boring

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Speaker 1: basketball too, And I just think for him it's typical

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Speaker 1: young guard growth in the sense that like he's kind

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Speaker 1: of lost track of his priorities a little bit, and

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Speaker 1: give him a couple of years and he'll figure out

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Speaker 1: that he cares more about winning, because he is a

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Speaker 1: champion at the end of the day. But he'll figure

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Speaker 1: out that he cares more about winning and being the

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Speaker 1: best basketball player he can be than he does about

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Speaker 1: some of the more beauty oriented elements of the game.

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Speaker 1: And I think he'll get on track. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the twenty two season was fluky. I

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Speaker 1: just think it's more an indicator of inconsistency from a

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Speaker 1: young guard, if that makes sense. Next question, Hey, Jason,

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Speaker 1: can you please talk about the Sun's recent win streak.

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Speaker 1: They've been playing through adversity and deleting huge leads that

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Speaker 1: other teams have had doing it with high level defensive

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Speaker 1: energy and offensive brilliance. KD should be all defense this

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Speaker 1: year with how much effort he's putting in. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: all the great content. Reese from Perth Australia. Australia, Reese,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much much for supporting the show. I

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Speaker 1: sincerely appreciate it. And it's cool. It's always cool to

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Speaker 1: see fans out outside of the United States, especially just

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Speaker 1: even beyond the support of this show. Just it's cool

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Speaker 1: to see how global of a sport basketball is. It's

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Speaker 1: something that I think it's underplayed when we talk about

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Speaker 1: NFL versus NBA, and like, you know, the NBA's global sport.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's not even on the same playing field

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Speaker 1: as the NFL in terms of its potential in the

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Speaker 1: grand scheme of things. And so I again, Reese, thanks

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Speaker 1: again for supporting the show, and shout out to Australia.

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Speaker 1: My buddy Matt actually played Australian rules football out there.

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Speaker 1: He was one of the groomsmen in my in my wedding,

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Speaker 1: played center at the University of Arizona and went out

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Speaker 1: and played AFL football out there for a little while.

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Speaker 1: So the Suns, first of all, they're on my list

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Speaker 1: to hit very soon. I just haven't gotten to them yet.

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Speaker 1: Obviously my vacations have thrown a giant wrench into things,

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Speaker 1: but we will do a more deep dive on the

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Speaker 1: Suns soon. They have a tough back to back on

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Speaker 1: Sunday Monday against the Orlando Magic and the Miami Heat,

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Speaker 1: and we'll probably we'd be talking a lot of Suns

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Speaker 1: on Monday and Tuesday coming up. But they've won seven

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Speaker 1: in a row. Most interesting part is their top ten

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Speaker 1: in both defense and rebounding over that span, So really

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Speaker 1: encouraging on the dirty work element side of things. Like again,

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Speaker 1: like that's when we talk about like how the Suns

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Speaker 1: were supposed to look like the twenty twenty one Brooklyn

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Speaker 1: Nets and they have it. Like people forget that the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one Brooklyn Nets defended like they guarded, and

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Speaker 1: that to me is like it is a two way

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Speaker 1: perimeter skill game that ends up winning in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: not just a one way perimeter skill game, if that

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Speaker 1: makes sense. Some impressive wins in that seven game winning streak.

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Speaker 1: They went into Los Angeles and smashed the Lakers. They

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Speaker 1: went into New Orleans and won easily against the Pelicans.

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Speaker 1: But they're really turning a corner when you zoom out,

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Speaker 1: Like Bradley Bial's played fourteen straight games. For all to

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Speaker 1: talk about his health, He's been available for about a

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Speaker 1: month now, they're eleven and three in those fourteen games

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Speaker 1: that Bradley bial has played, is they're basically won at

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Speaker 1: a fifty three win pace. In games that Bradley bial

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Speaker 1: has been available, I think they're thirteen and seven in

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Speaker 1: those games easily. The most exciting part of all this, though,

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Speaker 1: is Devin Booker has gotten going. He started the season

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Speaker 1: hot and then cooled off massively after that injury that

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Speaker 1: he had, and like just now in this last you know,

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Speaker 1: like month or so, he's starting to look like the

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Speaker 1: Devin Booker from the playoffs last year. And that to

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Speaker 1: me is you know, kind of a prerequisite to the

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Speaker 1: Suns being a real threat because again, like if Devin

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Speaker 1: Booker is gonna be what he was a few years ago,

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Speaker 1: where he's kind of like a second tier star, I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't even say second zer, almost like third tier star,

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Speaker 1: because to me, it's like there's the top top guys,

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Speaker 1: and then there's like the other superstars, and then there's

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Speaker 1: the guys that are right below superstar. And like Devin

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Speaker 1: Booker used to be in that tier, but recently he's

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Speaker 1: been showing like throughout the regular season last year, in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, last year's starting to show this like higher level.

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Speaker 1: Like now he's like kind of like a Tier B superstar, right,

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Speaker 1: and like it's important for him to get to that

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Speaker 1: level because so is Kevin Durant and two of those

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Speaker 1: guys just gives you a much better chance to win.

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Speaker 1: I know, big shock, but Devin Booker getting getting going.

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Speaker 1: I think he's played a big but they're definitely turning

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Speaker 1: a corner and we will talk more about them next week.

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Speaker 1: Next question, Jason, would you give us a trade scenario

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Speaker 1: on what the Lakers would have to give up to

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Speaker 1: get Bruce Brown and de Jonte Murray. So, Yovan Booja

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Speaker 1: came on the show yesterday and we aired the show today,

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Speaker 1: but it came on the show yesterday and we did

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Speaker 1: like an hour on the Lakers trade deadline, and we

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Speaker 1: did a bunch of scenarios surrounding to Jontay Murray and

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Speaker 1: Bruce Brown and even some other guys. So make sure

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Speaker 1: you check that out on our YouTube feed. Also shout

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Speaker 1: out to Yovan. He's been awesome for us and we

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Speaker 1: just signed him to be on the show twice a

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Speaker 1: month through free agency this year, so for Lakers fans,

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Speaker 1: basically once every other week. We're gonna have you know,

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Speaker 1: forty five minutes or so with Yovonn where we talk

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Speaker 1: you know, not just reporting surrounding the trade deadline, but

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Speaker 1: also also like just intel coming from within the locker room.

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Speaker 1: Yovonn travels around with the team like he's like gonna

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Speaker 1: be with them on this Grammy road trip. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to give us some insights of what's happening

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Speaker 1: inside the locker room. And then obviously when we get

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Speaker 1: outside of the playoffs, he's gonna be big for us

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Speaker 1: surrounding the draft in free agency. So shout out to

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Speaker 1: jovon officially going to be a recurring guest on The

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Speaker 1: Hoops Tonight Show for the rest of this season. Bext question,

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Speaker 1: what is the value of screen setting in the NBA?

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Speaker 1: I feel like one of the reasons for Dame struggles

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Speaker 1: can be because Jiannis is not setting good enough screens

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Speaker 1: for him like Nurkics used to do in Portland. I

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Speaker 1: also feel like it affects you, honest, because since the

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Speaker 1: second defender doesn't have to step up as much, it

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Speaker 1: clogs the pain for him. Do you think this is

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Speaker 1: a reason why their pick and roll has not been

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Speaker 1: as great as we thought. So here's the thing I've watched. God,

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Speaker 1: I've watched so many Damianis pick and rolls this year,

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Speaker 1: and Dave, like Giannis, is not a good screener. It's

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Speaker 1: not exactly surprising he you know, hasn't really had a

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Speaker 1: ton of practice with it over the years, right, Like

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Speaker 1: that was something that early on in you know, twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty twenty one, like he just wouldn't do all

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Speaker 1: that much, right, And so there's a certain element of

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Speaker 1: like kind of like learning how to do it. But

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the coverage that is

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Speaker 1: implemented in most cases against the Bucks kind of dictates

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Speaker 1: whether or not a screen is as necessary. So, first

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Speaker 1: of all, is screening important in the NBA. Absolutely, It's

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Speaker 1: most important in when it comes to pick and roll

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Speaker 1: in a drop coverage. The main reason why is, like

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Speaker 1: just visualize it. So a drop coverage, the big man

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Speaker 1: guarding the screener, if this is the basket, the big

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Speaker 1: man guarding the screener is back further towards the basket, right,

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Speaker 1: and then the on ball defender is chasing over the

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Speaker 1: top of the screen, right, So there's this gap there

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Speaker 1: and to give the offensive player an opportunity to work

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Speaker 1: in that gap. You need to set a solid enough

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Speaker 1: screen so that the offensive player can get over the

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Speaker 1: top while dragging this guy behind, so that he can

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Speaker 1: operate in this mid range to get to his wide

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Speaker 1: open looks or maybe pull the drop coverage big up

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Speaker 1: and make something good happen from there. So in that

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Speaker 1: specific situation, like screen setting is vitally important, the in

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Speaker 1: blitzing situations and in hard hedges and shows and things

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Speaker 1: like that, it's actually more important to make yourself available

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Speaker 1: on the role quicker. And so a lot of these times,

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Speaker 1: like like Giannis, he could set a better screen on

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Speaker 1: Dame's man, but even if he did, like Dame's immediately

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Speaker 1: running into the hedge, the hedger or the screen defender right,

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Speaker 1: And so a lot of times like Giannis is slipping

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Speaker 1: out of the screen pretty quick. You'll watch, just just

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Speaker 1: watch damianis pick and rolls, and you'll see like he

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Speaker 1: runs over to screen the guy and he's immediately bailing

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Speaker 1: out of it into the short role which he's just

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Speaker 1: trying to make himself available for the pass as quickly

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Speaker 1: as possible as Dame is facing a second defender, the

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Speaker 1: second part of it is icing. So on ice coverage

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Speaker 1: is a pick and roll coverage that you typically see

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Speaker 1: on the sides of the floor. And so imagine Dame

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Speaker 1: on the like imagine you know the baskets here like

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Speaker 1: I said, and here's your arc right and Dame is

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Speaker 1: on the right wing and Giannis comes up to set

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Speaker 1: a ball. A lot of times, what teams will do

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Speaker 1: is ice those side pick and rolls, meaning the guy

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Speaker 1: guarding Dame will jump high side and basically stand between

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Speaker 1: Dame and the screen and not allow him to use it.

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Speaker 1: And so at that point, same exact sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: Dame's job there is to quickly reject the screen, meaning

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Speaker 1: drive away from the screen, which will then allow him

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Speaker 1: to quickly engage the screen defender. And then as the

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Speaker 1: on ball guy is now chasing him as he's rejecting

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Speaker 1: the screen, Jannis has an opening in that gap created

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Speaker 1: by the ice coverage. So once again it's more important

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Speaker 1: for him to slip out of it as quickly as possible.

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Speaker 1: And so again, like, do I think Giannis is a

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Speaker 1: fantastic screen or no, But I think specifically with a

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Speaker 1: lot of the coverages that Milwaukee is facing, it's more

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Speaker 1: important for Giannis and Dame to kind of figure out

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Speaker 1: the angles for slipping and how to get the ball

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Speaker 1: to him quickly and in space where he can see

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Speaker 1: the floor and make quick reads whether or not he

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Speaker 1: has an opportunity to drive or to make a pass.

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Speaker 1: Great question though, thought that was really interesting. Two more,

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Speaker 1: what is the next step for Philly go for depth

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Speaker 1: or another all star talent assuming Joel can figure it

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Speaker 1: out in the playoffs and Maxie will be effective. So

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Speaker 1: those are two big ifs. If Joel can be it

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Speaker 1: can figure it out in the playoffs, and if Tyrese

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Speaker 1: Maxy can be effective. To me, I look at it

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Speaker 1: like this, like, who are the other two best? Kind

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Speaker 1: of like front court folk CRuMs? Right, I should say

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Speaker 1: three best? Right, it's Anthony Davis, that Tiannas and Tenna

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Speaker 1: komb Boats Nicola Jokic. What do those guys have, Like

854
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis has Lebron James and Austin Reeves and D'Angelo Russells.

855
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: He's got all of this offensive skill around him to

856
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: kind of set him up in spots. Right, Uh, Nicole

857
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: Jokic is one of the best shot makers in the NBA.

858
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: The guy one of the best guys at making tough

859
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: pull up, step back, iso pick and roll jump shots, right,

860
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: and so that basically puts their their two man game

861
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: in a very u in a position where it's very

862
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: difficult to guard. And specifically the reason why I bring

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00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: those guys as it translates to the postseason. And so

864
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If Tyrees Maxy can bring the same

865
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: level of volume and efficiency to the playoffs this year

866
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: that he does in the regular season, then yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 1: And now it's like, you know, I've seen a lot

868
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: of rumors surrounding Bruce Brown to the to the sixers

869
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: basically as and I don't know, I guess you're looking

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Speaker 1: at him as an upgrade of that two spot right

871
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: of where ded Anthony Milton is. But to me, that

872
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: only works or makes sense if Joel Embiid and Tyree

873
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: Maxy can do what you said, which has reached their

874
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: regular season impact in the postseason. But last year as

875
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: a secondary offensive initiator off of James Harden catching the

876
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: second best perimeter defender tyros Maxsey went down six percent

877
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: true shooting percentage from regular season to the postseason. And

878
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: so that's where it gets complicated. And like that's where

879
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: you have to have tough conversations because Joel Embid is

880
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: still relatively young, but he's got an injury history and

881
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: he's huge, and so like I don't think he's one

882
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: of those guys necessarily that you can I'm not saying

883
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: you can't, but like there's some there's some risk involved

884
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: as it pertains to like can Joel Embiid still be

885
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: at a superstar level when he's thirty three? Right, So,

886
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: like there's a little more urgency surrounding Joel, And so

887
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: there are tough conversations for Darylmulready to have with his

888
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: front office about, you know, is Tyree Maxy good enough

889
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: at it as a young guard to be the number

890
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: two next to Joel and Joel Embiid the same way

891
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: that Jamal Murray is for Nicole Jokic, the same way

892
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: that Lebron James and Austin Reeves is for for Anthony Davis,

893
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: the same way that Damian Lillard is for for Giannis

894
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: and Ten and Kumpo. Right, And so that's where that's

895
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: where it gets complicated, because like that's why I actually

896
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: pitched Philly as like an interesting team for Dejonte Murray trade,

897
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: because now you just have a lot more offensive skill

898
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 1: in your backcourt. Another guy you can consistently beat people

899
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: off the dribble and get the defense into rotation. To me,

900
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: that's more of an offensive minded upgrade of that of

901
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: that two spot. But like at the end of the day,

902
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: like who's the all star guy you'd be going after.

903
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: I mean, like maybe you go all in for like

904
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: a Lori marking in and you add a lot of

905
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: shooting and size into that front court like there, But

906
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: like that's the thing is, like I'm not necessarily sure

907
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: that there's that type of all in move available. But

908
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: from a philosophical standpoint, it's just important for Daryl Morey

909
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: in the front office to have a conversation about the

910
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: timeline of like Tyrese Maxey's rise as it pertains to

911
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: Joel Anthony and his prime and how I keep seeing

912
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: Joel Anthony, Joel Embiid and his Joel shout out Joel

913
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: Anthony on the Miami Heat back in the early twenty tens.

914
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: But just it's just kind of like weighing that timeline there.

915
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: And you guys know how I feel about trusting young

916
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: players in the playoffs. But that's for the sixers to decide. Lastly,

917
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 1: before we get out of here, have you been talked

918
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: to by a player that you have covered, If so,

919
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: how was it So, Yes, I have, and it has

920
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: been overwhelmingly positive. I have not I've seen examples of

921
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: players like really going after members of the media that

922
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: to this point hasn't happened to me yet. It's been pleasant.

923
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: People forget, like I've spent my young adulthood around the

924
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: game of basketball, so like I've talked to lots of

925
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: NBA players, have played with lots of NBA players, Like

926
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: there are guys all over the league that I've played

927
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: in games with before, So like, for me, it just

928
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: kind of feels somewhat natural, just because I've had those

929
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: kinds of conversations before. But I will say it's surreal

930
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: from the same point of it being just kind of

931
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: a sign of the show gaining some legitimacy, which is

932
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: obviously something that I don't take for granted. But at

933
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: the same time, like, I know that there's an ugly

934
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: side to that too, and I'm sure, I'm sure event

935
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: it will eventually happen that I'll say something about a

936
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: player and then they'll come after me. But that's just

937
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: kind of the name of the game, right that. Like

938
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: one of the things that I'm most interested in, if

939
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: I ever do player interviews in the future, is picking players'

940
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: brains about the media player relationship, because I think it's

941
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: super fascinating. Like, like, I know, I do the work,

942
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: like I know, I study the film. I know that

943
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't just come up here and talk for the

944
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: sake of talking. But at the same time, like I'm

945
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: not an NBA player, and even though i have a

946
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: basketball background, and even though I have played, and even

947
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: though I think I'm a good basketball player, I'm not

948
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: an NBA player, And so like, imagine the roles were reversed,

949
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: and I'm an NBA player and this dude who played

950
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: in college but didn't make it out of the it

951
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: didn't make it to the NBA is like, you know,

952
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: sitting in his guest bedroom talking shit. You know, Like

953
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: I'd be like, what the hell, dude, you know? Like, so,

954
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: like I do find that dynamic super interesting because on

955
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: one hand, it's like that's my job. My job is

956
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: to not just come up here and praise players, but

957
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: to offer criticism. Like I try to be like incredible.

958
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: I try to just be fair as much as I can,

959
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: but at the same time, like there's a certain like

960
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: respect barrier as it pertains to the NBA, and like,

961
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: I just have so much respect for NBA players and

962
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: what they accomplished, and like, I just think it's fascinating

963
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: and I would love to pick players' brains about that

964
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: in the future, just specifically the relationship between players in

965
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: the media. But yeah, I have talked to NBA players

966
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: since I started the show. It went well, obviously, to

967
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: respect those players privacy, I won't mention anybody by name.

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Speaker 1: All Right, guys, that's all I have for today. As always,

969
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys for supporting the show. The game

970
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: plan for the rest of this weekend is we're going

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Speaker 1: live on YouTube after Lakers Warriors tomorrow night. That game

972
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: is on ABC, I believe, and then we'll be taking

973
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Speaker 1: Sunday off and then we'll be back on Monday for

974
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: power rankings as well as game breakdowns. I'll see you

975
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: guys tomorrow night. The volume