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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 3: Happy Saturday, Final four Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Uh here at Project don Il Big News yesterday, Anthony

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Speaker 2: Gargano and Danny diverted Dinas the a d at Penn

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Speaker 2: Charter together We're Nil where we cover everything name, image

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Speaker 2: and likeness from youth to high school through college.

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Speaker 3: That's the basis of the show. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, President Trump signed the executive order that would make

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Speaker 2: first of all, keep athletes to five years and allow

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Speaker 2: them only one transfer. We'll get into that big news

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Speaker 2: yesterday and then we'll take a look at the Final four.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Danny, d Dad.

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Speaker 4: What's going on? Because how we doing?

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Speaker 3: Brother, good good Uh.

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Speaker 2: The pretty momentous day yesterday as the with the executive order.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's pretty interesting. You know they had that

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Speaker 4: round table. I was kind of waiting to see what's next,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, they signed this. He signed it. Well, it's

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Speaker 4: supposed to happen in the in the coming days or week. Uh,

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Speaker 4: this big executive order, which is pretty interesting. You know

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Speaker 4: it's gonna limit you know, how much time, how many

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Speaker 4: times you can transfer, and uh try to put some

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Speaker 4: parameters on this. Unfortunately, executive orders get shot down and

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Speaker 4: challenge a lot. So I don't know if it sticks,

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Speaker 4: but at least it's it's still pushing the conversation to

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Speaker 4: try to put some guardrails on what's going on. And

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Speaker 4: you know in college sports right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know it's important to say this that

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Speaker 2: they can they are challenged in court. Uh many President

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Speaker 2: Trump's executive orders have been challenged in court already. You know,

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Speaker 2: we'll see about this one and if it can happen again.

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Speaker 2: It's to limit NCUBA athletes through five years and basically

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Speaker 2: one transfer. The order directs the NSA to create rules

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Speaker 2: that mandate college athletes can play for no more than

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Speaker 2: a five year period, allows them to transfer schools only

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Speaker 2: once before they graduate without having to sit out of

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Speaker 2: the season. The rule changes are scheduled to go into

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Speaker 2: effect August first. A school that plays an athlete who

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Speaker 2: doesn't meet these new limits could risk losing its federal funding.

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Speaker 3: That's the camera that the order has with it.

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Speaker 2: The order also states the NCAA should update its rules

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Speaker 2: to create a national registry for player agents and create

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Speaker 2: policy that prevents schools from cutting scholarships or other opportunities

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Speaker 2: for women's and Olympic sports in order to pay their athletes. Again,

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Speaker 2: I get it, you know, it seems reasonable. You know

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Speaker 2: I probably would have. I probably would have went. I

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Speaker 2: think you and I said six and two. Yep, he

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Speaker 2: goes five and one. I guess six and two across

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Speaker 2: the board is what you and I talked about. And

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Speaker 2: it was only because a guy like Trinidad Chambliss, who

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Speaker 2: you know starts nowhere, falls through the cracks it allows

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Speaker 2: for him. And the other thing is one transfer in

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Speaker 2: this era that's not working.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we were just trying to be a little bit

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Speaker 4: more realistic. I think this is like the extreme. I

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Speaker 4: think if it ever gets to Congress and Congress pushes

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Speaker 4: it through hopefully, I think that's kind of where they'll fall.

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Speaker 4: I think because it's difficult because kids have to start

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Speaker 4: at different levels now, so they have to work their

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Speaker 4: way up like chand Let's is the perfect example, and

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Speaker 4: a hard five years is difficult because when you do

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Speaker 4: go up, you might not play right away, so red

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Speaker 4: shirts and then medicals, so like putting a hard five

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Speaker 4: on it is difficult. So we were saying you have

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Speaker 4: six to play five because people want to stay for

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Speaker 4: they're working towards that, I'm fine with it. We were

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Speaker 4: just trying to keep out you know, like I saw

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Speaker 4: So like let's call what it is if we're going

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Speaker 4: to have it. So he's you know, he's an advocate

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Speaker 4: of you know, fighting for that seventeen eighteen, nineteen year old,

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Speaker 4: and so am I. So I think there's a compromise

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Speaker 4: there that where we could kind of fall in the

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Speaker 4: middle for both sides of this argument and not be

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Speaker 4: too extreme on limiting the amount of time they have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The other the other aspect to the transfer piece of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, li'sten for.

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Speaker 2: Every five star, there's a million guys that come in

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Speaker 3: I mean that's part of the deal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, just some just some contexts and some

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Speaker 4: football transferred in the last cycle, right, three thousand in

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Speaker 4: college basketball, twenty five percent of the players hit the

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Speaker 4: transfer portal every year and that's before this year. So

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Speaker 4: I think it's only going to continue to go up.

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Speaker 4: And programs are turning over about sixty percent of their

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Speaker 4: roster annually. You know, we have relationships with Division one

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Speaker 4: And there definitely need some guardrails. So this is definitely

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Speaker 4: a step in the right direction. But for the people

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Speaker 4: it now, that's not. It's going to be challenged. There's

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Speaker 4: it's going to be you know, it's not going to

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Speaker 4: August first. It's the technical date, but I doubt that

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Speaker 4: it's actually hammered out, laid out for the next season

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Speaker 4: or even two. I think it's going to be in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine, you know, And again, the way

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Speaker 2: The lawsuit man. People gonna be rushing to file this lawsuits.

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Speaker 2: So you know, even Trump said, uh, you know, it'll

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Speaker 4: So yeah, he's aware of it, and I think they

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Speaker 4: look at the courts. It's the right thing. But there's

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Speaker 4: still a lot of navigating that we have to do,

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Speaker 4: and ultimately it's going to have to work its way

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Speaker 4: to Congress and we have to get some real legislation

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Speaker 4: and not just an executive order that will really put

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Speaker 4: some pressure on this system that we've kind of created.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I'm not always the biggest fan of

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Speaker 4: I just want to get back to more of you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm happy the kids are getting paid, but I want

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Speaker 4: to schools. I want to you know, college sports is

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Speaker 4: These coaches who are you know, great motivators and great

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Speaker 4: you know examples for these kids, they're only getting their

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Speaker 4: change their life. And they're just bouncing around. So uh,

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Speaker 4: we'll be happy to try to hold kids in the

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Speaker 4: you know, and get paid at the same time. So

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Speaker 4: there is a there is a there is a path.

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Speaker 2: We just have to right, I mean, right now, it

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Speaker 2: feels still feels lawless. One feels like anarchy, you know,

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Speaker 2: not because we came up with it, but some of

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Speaker 2: the ideas were actually good, like the compensation to schools

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Speaker 2: that lose players in the portal, Like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna pay someone, they should get the should

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Speaker 4: get a percentage that money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that that that made sense to it, Like I

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Speaker 2: get there's a couple of things that are important here. One,

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Speaker 2: you gotta allow kids to move, right because if you

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Speaker 2: gotta let's take a quarterback, all right, if the quarterback

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Speaker 2: think about a kid that plays quarterback, it's it's not

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Speaker 2: like it was years ago, where you know, the kid

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Speaker 2: go went to high school looking for your path and

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Speaker 2: the QB one job? So it's and in college it's

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Speaker 2: that much more important that you're that you're looking to go.

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Speaker 2: Everybody everybody could look at arts Manning go yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: I can go to Texas sit behind somebody for a year,

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Speaker 2: right and right, well not everybody's last names Manning.

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Speaker 3: Right, So.

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Speaker 4: These kids got to getting paid millions to sit on

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Speaker 4: the bench, right, Like he was right, he's getting paid

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Speaker 4: that's even becoming a little bit more you know, common

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Speaker 4: for the the top guys. But that's a very small,

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Speaker 3: Rayola transferred to Orgon exactly yep.

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Speaker 4: And he's getting the bag just to sit behind him.

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Speaker 4: And and but that's very rare. You know, that's a

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's interesting when you look at the

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Speaker 2: so Dylan Rayola leaves Nebraska, goes to Oregon. Anthony Calandria

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Speaker 4: And with this era where there's so much transferred, these

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Speaker 4: I think one is just it's tough and they need

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Speaker 4: has to be some type of build in exceptions, but

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Speaker 4: definitely trying to limit it is definitely the move. I

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Speaker 4: don't want to see kids at four scores in four years.

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Speaker 4: So there's a compromise there. We just have to kind

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Speaker 4: of find a land on it because we don't want

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Speaker 3: Well because they have to get established in the system.

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Speaker 2: Because they're starting at a lower level and forcing them

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Speaker 2: to rise rung by rung. That's where the transfer comes

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Speaker 2: in because especially sport like football, you're not going to

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Speaker 2: you're not gonna You're not gonna recruit high school kids.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna wait till they're all there. It just makes sense.

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Speaker 2: You're just gonna go into the portal. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: not like you got Calipari's out there. They're gonna try

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And sticking with cal I with the interview yesterday,

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Speaker 4: how we just the parameters are so crazy, Like guys

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: This is what people need to understand. Though they just

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Speaker 4: it's just going to be an extra Big Ten team,

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Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan of the playing. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This is a you know, we live in a in

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Speaker 3: I mean remember never thinking about did G League take

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Speaker 2: The NBA was all about ready to ready to just

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Speaker 4: The G League, you're they're doing that developmental league, developmental contracts,

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Speaker 2: Right, But if you remember it weakened this week in

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Speaker 2: Of Don's right, like you had you had kids that

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Speaker 3: Just wasn't good. Yeah, that's why.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why Cinderella was always dancing, you know. Like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to see kids stay because.

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Speaker 2: You want to get you want to get used to,

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Speaker 2: you want to you want to see them, we get

436
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Speaker 2: to know that man.

437
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Speaker 3: I mean that was the charm.

438
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Speaker 2: Of college basketball in the eighties and nineties, where guys

439
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 2: staying three and four years. I mean, you know Patrick

440
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: Ewing and the keem Elijron going head to head as seniors.

441
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Speaker 2: I mean think about that for a second, right, like

442
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: the you know how the one the White was so

443
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: incredible and so great in the theater.

444
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Speaker 3: I mean, these were NBA NBA rosters and kids.

445
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Speaker 4: You knew every year the rivalry was going to continue

446
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 4: to happen. Like even Cole said yesterday, it was it

447
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,959
Speaker 4: was unique that Marcus can be left as a junior,

448
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Speaker 4: like he stayed with him at UMass for three years.

449
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 4: He could have went out every year, right, but he

450
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 4: stuck around and they went on that magical run to

451
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Speaker 4: the final four. And even two good friends of mine,

452
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Speaker 4: you know, I have you know, two of my best

453
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Speaker 4: friends are Chuck and Kyle Bernard, and they pride themselves

454
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Speaker 4: on knowing college athletes and where they're from, and they

455
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Speaker 4: can't do it anymore, and it's eating them up. It's

456
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Speaker 4: absolutely correct using them that they they don't know you

457
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 4: could give him a random ath we they knew their college.

458
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 4: But it's tough now that these guys.

459
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because first of all, you gotta you're gonna mention

460
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Speaker 2: three of them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right, Yeah, he started in Arizona State, then he

462
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Speaker 5: was in Washington and or then he was at uh,

463
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Speaker 5: you know, Ohio, and then he finished up at Bama.

464
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Speaker 4: Yeah. It's it's it's it's too hard anymore. Right, So, yeah,

465
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Speaker 4: that allure of it's different. But I'm hoping if they

466
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Speaker 4: do put some parameters on it, I think we'll get

467
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Speaker 4: guys at schools for multiple years, which would be great

468
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Speaker 4: and high level guys, right you know, we see it

469
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Speaker 4: with Dante Morris, wanna be the number two pick and

470
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Speaker 4: that draft maybe even number one said I'm gonna stay

471
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Speaker 4: in college for another year at Oregon, right like, and

472
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Speaker 4: I love it. So he's gonna have three years at Oregon,

473
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Speaker 4: he's gonna have his development and he's you know, hopefully

474
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Speaker 4: you know it pays off for him in the long run,

475
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Speaker 4: but you want to see more of that. You want

476
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Speaker 4: these guys to stick around and have these rivalries and

477
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Speaker 4: be pride for their So I think this time is

478
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Speaker 4: all in. It's just like if we get a little

479
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Speaker 4: bit of garb rails, not to the extreme, I think

480
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Speaker 4: it'll be great for the sports and and well they'll

481
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Speaker 4: be back at the at the highest level.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder, I wonder how you do it. I

483
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Speaker 3: wonder how you do that.

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Speaker 2: I what the sweet spot is, because again, how do

485
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Speaker 2: you get you know, football and basketball are completely different

486
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Speaker 2: sports because as a freshman, you could contribute, and unless

487
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Speaker 2: you're a skill guy, it's hard, it's hard to you know,

488
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Speaker 2: you're gonna have to go to a lower level, a

489
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Speaker 2: lower league to.

490
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Speaker 3: Contribute unless you're some ridiculous skill player.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we kind of down.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm not.

493
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Speaker 4: I think when we are six and two was good

494
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Speaker 4: unless you continue to move up. But how many times

495
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Speaker 4: can you move up?

496
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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: So like right, three would be the max if you did,

498
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Speaker 4: like if you went like D two to low D

499
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Speaker 4: one to you know, high major right, so that'd be

500
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Speaker 4: three would be the max. And that's a lot. But

501
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Speaker 4: three over six years, you know, maybe you sit along

502
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Speaker 4: the way. I don't know how that works, but I

503
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Speaker 4: would say two and six is I think is a

504
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 4: really good sweet spot starting point with some you know,

505
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Speaker 4: appeals along the way to really switch that up as

506
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Speaker 4: you grow.

507
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Speaker 2: But and to your point, which I like, one of

508
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: the things that you have to do. It's paramount is

509
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: you have to treat each sport differently. They can't be

510
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Speaker 2: governed under the same rules. I mean, I would argue that,

511
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Speaker 2: you know, football, you should build out six and two

512
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Speaker 2: as opposed to basketball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

514
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Speaker 4: No, I've argued even at the high school level when

515
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 4: we do these rules in our ad meetings, I always

516
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,239
Speaker 4: been an advocate of like we have to look at

517
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Speaker 4: it by sport, like they were like a big thing

518
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Speaker 4: in the Catholic League, which I was the Philadelphia Catholic

519
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Speaker 4: which I was previously in. A big argument that I

520
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 4: would always stand on would be like when we do,

521
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Speaker 4: like are all leagues? They want to have a unified

522
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Speaker 4: voting system, and I'm like, well, soccer is different than basketball, right,

523
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 4: like positions are different, so going about it, the process

524
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Speaker 4: can't be the same always, no, you know, And they

525
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Speaker 4: wanted to be unified because people will say, well, why

526
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Speaker 4: does this sport doing this way? Well, because it works

527
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Speaker 4: for that sport. So I was always a big advocate.

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Speaker 4: I understand it's a little easier when everyone has it

529
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Speaker 4: the same for the general but like, if who cares,

530
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Speaker 4: work a little harder, let's get the best possible vote,

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Speaker 4: Let's get the best possible system, and even if it

532
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Speaker 4: takes a little longer, because at the end of the day,

533
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Speaker 4: you want the best thing for these kids and the

534
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Speaker 4: best product for everyone out there watching it. And if

535
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Speaker 4: we're not looking at it individually, sometimes it gets tied in.

536
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Speaker 4: So I understand it is more work and it can

537
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Speaker 4: cause a headache. But I've always been an advocate of

538
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Speaker 4: let's figure out what's best for like, let's put the

539
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Speaker 4: best product out there regardless of what is.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly, all right.

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Speaker 3: Last night, let's get it on the court.

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Speaker 2: Last night, epic battle between two people from our our region,

543
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Speaker 2: Yu Khan and Gino Ariama, the biting heartdound guy go

544
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Speaker 2: down to South Carolina and Don.

545
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 4: Staley North Philly's finest.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and then they get to a beef.

547
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was.

548
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Speaker 3: It was heated too.

549
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Speaker 4: I was surprised by it. It was intense, and from

550
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Speaker 4: what I've read afterwards, it seems like he thought she

551
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Speaker 4: stiffed them before the game a little bit. Yeah, and

552
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 4: they kind of ran it up late a little bit,

553
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 4: and I think he was just frustrated. Look, Yukon could

554
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 4: make shots. They missed open shots all night. Now his

555
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: big I loved his game interview where he went off

556
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 4: that it was six nothing in fouls against him, which

557
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 4: is crazy in that level. And South Carolina is a

558
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: very physical team, so for him to be like, look

559
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 4: at six tozero the other way, they're playing really physical,

560
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: we can't buy, we can't buy a bucket. Like, he

561
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 4: was just overall frustrated. I think he probably grets a

562
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Speaker 4: little bit. But Don Staley's not backing down.

563
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Speaker 3: Brother.

564
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 4: You come at her. She's gonna be right back at you.

565
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: So she's the best.

566
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Speaker 4: She's tough too.

567
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Speaker 3: They were great, like we do growth of them. You know,

568
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: they're the best in the bit.

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Speaker 4: There are the two best coaches in college in college

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Speaker 4: in college sports, for sure.

571
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

572
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Speaker 2: It was Uh, it was good stuff all right, the men.

573
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Speaker 2: Uh we start tonight. This is the final four day,

574
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Speaker 2: Final four Saturday over Easter weekends. Pretty cool, Yeah, you got.

575
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Speaker 2: I don't remember it being all the final four is

576
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Speaker 2: I covered.

577
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Speaker 4: Though it was over it was Easter weekend this year.

578
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 4: I don't ever really remember it falling on.

579
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Speaker 3: This I never do. I don't remember it.

580
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 6: I never at some point, but I don't know, dude,

581
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Speaker 6: I covered a million of them and I never remember

582
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Speaker 6: being away for Easter Sunday.

583
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I's bizarre.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it is my favorite, one of my

585
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 4: favorite events, and I don't really recall it either.

586
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

587
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: And we'll get well, uh, we'll take quick till we'll

588
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: come back with the matchups.

589
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 3: Great.

590
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: I mean Arizorta Michigan is the championship game, like we know,

591
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: but don't sleep on U Kon and Illinois. That's got

592
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Speaker 2: a chance to be a great one in Hurley and

593
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: everything that went down last week and the tournament has

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Speaker 2: been fabulous. We'll talk about it straight ahead. This is

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Speaker 2: Project n I L Danny d d A D. M

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Speaker 2: Man as we hang out on a uh that's right,

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Speaker 2: Final four Saturday on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to Project ni L.

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Speaker 2: I love I love this conversation every week as a

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Speaker 3: Off the air.

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Speaker 2: Soon, Project DONIL will have its own podcast. We're working

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Speaker 2: on that behind the scenes where we expand the show

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Speaker 2: and do a lot of you get even more deeper

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Speaker 3: Davy Dave, Let's look at today's games.

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Speaker 2: First game fascinating one U can after the slaying the

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Speaker 2: dragon Duke goes up against Illinois. I still can't believe

617
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: they won that game. Oh my god, damn double digits

618
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: were out. They just kind of hung around and hung around,

619
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: and then Duke started to get tight, and you know,

620
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: you thought that they had the thing warded off, right,

621
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Speaker 2: Like you thought that they had survived until that moment,

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Speaker 2: and that's why you stay in the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's wild. It's you know, Dan Hurley

624
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 4: has has a choke hold on March right now over

625
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,959
Speaker 4: the last four or five years. It's tough to go

626
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 4: against them. Like Illinois has the better roster, for sure.

627
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 4: They're deeper, their guards are better, waglers, so tough, Stryakovich,

628
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 4: their guards are great, they have the sides inside. But

629
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I was reading about this yesterday. I mean,

630
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: they haven't lost like they're like in their last like

631
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: ninety or eighty two, maybe it was out of conference games.

632
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: They're like seventy six and six con Wow, he's like

633
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 4: has He's like eighteen and one in March over the

634
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 4: last four years. It's it's wild, man. It's tough to

635
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 4: go against Hurley, but I'm gonna do it.

636
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 3: I think I agree.

637
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 4: I think it's Illinoi's time. I think they're gonna make

638
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 4: a run. I just think their guards are too good.

639
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 4: I know Hurley is a phenomenal coach and it's crazy

640
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: to go against him, and every every metric tells you

641
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: not to. But I'm gonna ride with Illinois today.

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00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you again.

643
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: You know what, this is done with trepidation and with

644
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: much respect. But I don't know how you come back

645
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: from that game. Like I know, listen, it's not like

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00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: it's a Friday Sunday kind of thing. So you have

647
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: time and you know, you spend a week and you

648
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: say to your team, I like, you know, we're not

649
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: celebrating you more.

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Speaker 1: Thing.

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00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: It's the Final four. Now's business. Blah blah blah blah blah.

652
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: But you slay the dragon, and when you it's hard

653
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: to come back that game.

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Speaker 3: That's duke. You beat that team that's like a super.

655
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: Bowl victory with a one percent chance to win, right,

656
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 4: I mean they were down, you know, their chances were

657
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 4: minis school to try to get that win and forty

658
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 4: footer from Moans, I mean everything had to go right.

659
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 4: They didn't fail at first, which was crazy, you know, yeah, madness,

660
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: but yeah, I agree with you. It's really hard to

661
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 4: get back up and to lock in at the highest level.

662
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 4: But if anyone can make him do it, it's Dan Early.

663
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 2: So he's a great coach, man, he really is. He's

664
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: a great, great, great coach. I'll tell you, man. I

665
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: I was surprised that Duke folded the way they did,

666
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: you know, and all of a sudden, they you know,

667
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: couldn't hit free throws and you know, turnover some bad shots.

668
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god.

669
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Speaker 4: But it kind of goes back to our point a

670
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 4: little bit. Really young roster moments huge. And on the

671
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 4: other side, they got you know, Yukon's done a good

672
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 4: job of keeping their core guys intact over the last

673
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 4: couple of years. And uh yeh got experienced guys. I

674
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 4: mean Canavan had to, you know, he's four year player

675
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 4: for them. You know, it's amazing, right, not having a

676
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 4: good game, it did not matter, didn't matter.

677
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: They've been there, showed up man. Yeah, it's been there.

678
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 4: Sees moments trailing like that. Experience I think means a

679
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: lot and uh yeah, you know, the moment's big for

680
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 4: eighteen year olds and that's why I think the rosters

681
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 4: that have a little bit of both. I love the

682
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: top freshman, but I like, you know, it's a veteran

683
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: leadership too, and I know it's tough in this in

684
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 4: this era, but uh yeah, they figured out a way

685
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 4: to do it at Yukon and they've you know, they

686
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 4: have experienced it to push through moments like that.

687
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: Now woman got to me. You know, they're kind of

688
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 3: getting lost in the shuffle.

689
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's not they don't have like, you know,

690
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 4: Waggler's probably prospect, I think will be a really good

691
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 4: NBA guy, But they you know, Stoyakovic's sons there, but

692
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 4: they don't have you know, the big names. You know,

693
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 4: they've a bunch of guys that are overseas guys in

694
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 4: their front court that are really talented. But they've kind

695
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 4: of go on, you know, they've had up and down season.

696
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 4: You know, they can score a lot, but they defensively struggle.

697
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 4: But they've beat some really good teams along this way

698
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 4: on this ride, and they're playing really good basketball right now.

699
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 4: So yeah, I might. I think it's gonna be great

700
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 4: when I'm so excited. Both these games are gonna be

701
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 4: electric to I think both.

702
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: On the second game, and you know, we talked up

703
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Speaker 3: before the committee.

704
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: The Kimmedy was very good, very very solid, but it

705
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: made one mistake and that was putting Arizona Michigan on

706
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: the same side.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 4: I don't know how you do that.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe.

710
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: And honestly, they were the I don't know how Duke

711
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 2: was number one overall. I just I still don't believe it.

712
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 2: You and I talked about it when the brackets came out.

713
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: We both well on Arizona Michigan where the clear wanted

714
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Speaker 2: two best teams and they should have been on the

715
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Speaker 2: opposite sides.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy that they had them on the same side.

717
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Speaker 4: I mean the second it came out, we talked about it, saying, like,

718
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Speaker 4: the best two teams are on the same side, and

719
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Speaker 4: then it's a shame if they meet there when they

720
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 4: should be meeting for national title.

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Speaker 3: Do you like?

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Speaker 4: I'm so torn, man. I've been pumping Michigan all year.

723
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 4: And then I did a bracket where I have Arizona

724
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Speaker 4: winning it where I went if they win it all.

725
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 4: So I had two brackets while Michigan winning it, I

726
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 4: just didn't have the setup as well. The other one

727
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Speaker 4: I have Arizona winning it and if they hold on,

728
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: I'll win a bracket. So I think they match up

729
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 4: really well, Like Arizona can really beat you inside. Michigan

730
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 4: is huge, man. I think you know, I love Trudeau,

731
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Speaker 4: I like the guards, but I think the guards are

732
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 4: better at Arizona. I get them the edge, they've been

733
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 4: better all year, they have the size, they can really

734
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Speaker 4: score it, they guard in the back court. I love Trudeau.

735
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 4: I think he's a really savvy point guard. But I

736
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Speaker 4: think Arizona will will win today and a close one. Yeah,

737
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 4: what do you got?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, I like Arizona, I like I think

739
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: man Michigan's so good and I and I fear going

740
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: up against Michigan, going against Michigan, but I think Arizona

741
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: could could just score it more consistently.

742
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 3: But if they need a bucket, I just think they

743
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: get to the rim.

744
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: They get, they get the shots they get, Like their

745
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: offense is ridiculous, the shots they get.

746
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're unbelievable. I mean, they looked great and they've

747
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 4: beat they beat down some really good teams along the way,

748
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 4: like they're they're smacking teams.

749
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Speaker 2: So I know, and I know Michigan's doing the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I think the level competition slightly. I give it's like

751
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Speaker 2: not to Arizona, and I just in the end, I

752
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: don't think Michigan could stop them. Alright, don't fret all

753
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: right because Danny d sticking around fellas