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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyon, and this is episode number tay

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Speaker 1: in the show. Just like the clocks, this past weekend,

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Speaker 1: we're springing forward and discussing what our personal plans are

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Speaker 1: for the spring to prep for the two thousand fifteen

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Speaker 1: deer season. Shed hunting, scouting, food plots. We discuss it

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Speaker 1: all and much more. All right, welcome to the Wired

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Speaker 1: to Hunt podcast. And this week was the beginning of

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Speaker 1: daylight savings time, and as we've turned the clocks back

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Speaker 1: or actually turned the clocks up an hour and officially

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Speaker 1: in my book, left in the spring. So that said,

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Speaker 1: today I wanted us to take a break from our

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Speaker 1: jam packed guest episodes that we've had lately and instead

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Speaker 1: take some time to chat about what me and Dan

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Speaker 1: are doing personally right now to prep for the two

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Speaker 1: thousand fifteen deer season. But before we get into all that, Dan,

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Speaker 1: how are you. I'm doing pretty good? Uh? Had? The

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Speaker 1: weather outside is gorgeous and as soon as I'm done

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Speaker 1: u recording the podcast, I'm actually gonna go get my

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Speaker 1: daughter and although the backyards a little mushy and she

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Speaker 1: may or may not get it, I'm gonna have a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a staged shed hunt with her, and uh,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Nice. That should be fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I'll take I'll take a couple of an ors

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Speaker 1: that or the antler that I found this weekend. I'll

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Speaker 1: throw it under a tree or something, and I'll say, hey,

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Speaker 1: to show her again what they look like, and then

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Speaker 1: I'll let her loose in the backyard and see if

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Speaker 1: she can't find it. It's an awesome ide sounds exactly

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Speaker 1: like what I'm planning on doing after this call to

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Speaker 1: But instead of my daughter, I'm gonna take my dog.

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Speaker 1: So what are you trying to say? Don't I don't

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Speaker 1: even know. Basically, my dog is probably gonna find more

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Speaker 1: sheds than your daughter, probably probably. That's funny, that's cool

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Speaker 1: idea that I'm excited for her. I hope the I

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Speaker 1: hope she likes it. What are you gonna do, though?

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Speaker 1: If she totally just utterly fails, are you going to

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Speaker 1: be Are you just gonna give up on hers a

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Speaker 1: shed hunter. No, I'll give her. I'll give her a

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Speaker 1: if she goes into the grass and just pulls out

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Speaker 1: a gagger shed that has you know that that I

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Speaker 1: the team or not. I think that's probably a pretty

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Speaker 1: I can make the shed hunting team when I was

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Speaker 1: So oh man, Well, speaking of shed hunting, though, we

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Speaker 1: Huh right, did you have a good time? I did,

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Speaker 1: And I guess I should preface before we talked too

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Speaker 1: to go to Ohio to shed hunt. That's past weekend. Um,

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Speaker 1: But you know, as we talked about, there was a

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Speaker 1: my buddy Corey and I were looking at it and

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Speaker 1: there's just no way that we're gonna go down there

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Speaker 1: were going shed hunting this weekend, and um, gosh, my

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Speaker 1: So so again, you know, without without spoiling anything, Mark

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Speaker 1: So so yeah, I love seeing that when he does that.

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Speaker 1: So maybe next year you'll have to bring him. I

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Speaker 1: But what do you think should we uh? Should we

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Speaker 1: I mean I had a blast. I know we didn't

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Speaker 1: But the sign was there. And as you saw that

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Speaker 1: find some sheds here, no doubt about it. Standing beans perfect,

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Speaker 1: darn good buffet. Right, that was a pretty good buffet. Yeah. Yeah, catfish, whitefish,

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Speaker 1: that it wasn't family friendly. No, it didn't sound like it, didn't.

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Speaker 1: through a bonfire. And uh oh yeah, man, I'm I'm bad.

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Speaker 1: Ask greatest greatest day of my life four July. That's awesome. Yeah. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Well you definitely changed the lasses sent and that's for sure. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd say that they've got really good service too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: but I do think you were talking about you're describing

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Speaker 1: look like, Mark, he looks like a like a rookie

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Speaker 1: sponsorships isn't coming until you can really drop the hammer,

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Speaker 1: so to speak, on the on the man goatee. And

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Speaker 1: u Ike. Hell, you may even be sponsoring getting sponsored

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Speaker 1: by a company that makes beard nets. For that really

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Speaker 1: is the peak. That's the peak right there. You can

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Speaker 1: get to that point on our drive home. Here and Corey,

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Speaker 1: a friend that played college baseball and he was a

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Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard to abide by. Right. It's one

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00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 1: of those things that you really have to pay attention

426
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: in order to follow it, and it's hard to especially

427
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: when the terrain is um like it is on on

428
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: my farms, where it doesn't it's not in a straight line.

429
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 1: And I'm just I'm just bringing it up sically to

430
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: give him some crap. But I've seen it. I've seen

431
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 1: it the opposite way, where someone will be walking down

432
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: a deer trail find a giant antler, and I gave

433
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: you a specific example of that. But they found this

434
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: giant like eighty point side eight five inch antler eight

435
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: points and eight eighty five inch angler. And uh so,

436
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: as this guy's taking pictures, another person kind of hops

437
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: continues the shed hunt in his line and doesn't give

438
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: him the opportunity to find that himself. You know, we're

439
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 1: kind of digging deep on this third rule. But the

440
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 1: guy ended up finding it and then a didn't give

441
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: it then broke rule number one and didn't give it up. Yeah,

442
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: which is which is pretty lousy across the whole board. Yeah.

443
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean it is what it is. It's

444
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: and that that shed that the second guy found was

445
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: like ninety four inches, so you know, it would be

446
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: tough for some people. And you know, those rules probably

447
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: weren't established at the time of the that shed hunt.

448
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: But it's one of those things where whenever I go

449
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: shed hunting, I always ask what the rules are, because

450
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: I've been shed hunting before. Where the guy who owns

451
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: the property wants to keep the sheds, that's fine with me.

452
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: If that rules established right off the bat um or

453
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: if or you know, sometimes people have other rules or

454
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: I don't know what they what they may be, but

455
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: if they're brought to attention, uh, right off the bat

456
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: it can I mean I can see to where people

457
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: would get in huge arguments about it. Yeah, I think

458
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: it's one of those things, you know, because because people

459
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: get pretty excited about antlers. So it's the best too

460
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: if you're taking if you're going out together and you're

461
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: looking for antlers and some someone else's property or whatever

462
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, it's just good to get you know, hey,

463
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: these are the basic guidelines we're gonna follow here, and

464
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: here's the plan. And you know, when it comes to

465
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, you know, walking lines. You know, it's

466
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: just basic kind of shed hunting etiquette that you know,

467
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: when you start, when you're walking property with several people, right,

468
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: you all kind of say, okay, I'm gonna work this

469
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: line here. I'm gonna work the top of the ridge.

470
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: So and so it's gonna work three corters down, so

471
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: and so was gonna work the bottom. That way, you're

472
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: not all crossing each other all the time. And then

473
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: you each walk your own respective line. It will call

474
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: the line. And then that way, everyone has their own

475
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: opportunity to find sheds in that path in front of them. Um.

476
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: And then you know, sometimes you know, inevitably, like you mentioned,

477
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: because the train are different things, there's gonna be some

478
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: narrowing down. People are gonna get closer to each other.

479
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: You might cross a little bit here and there when

480
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: you're making turns and whatnot. But you know it could

481
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: be disrespectful. Is you know, if you guys, if we agree,

482
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: we're all gonna walk these separate areas, and then someone

483
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: keeps popping in front of you and you know, looking

484
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: at your stuff too, and then you don't have the

485
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: opportunity to find any sheds. So well, And the main

486
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: reason I bring a rule like that up is because

487
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: if you want to cover as much area as possible.

488
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: Every you can't be criss crossing each other that that way,

489
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: you're you know, you have the potential for missing sheds,

490
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: and you know when for me, I only have this

491
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: one weekend to go, I want to make sure we're

492
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: covering as much ground as possible and finding as many

493
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: sheds as possible. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's it's a it's

494
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: a smart way to shut hunt and it's like it's

495
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: it's a way to keep it from being such like

496
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: a deathly competition because if everyone's kind of in a

497
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: free for all, then you have people like trying to

498
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: get ahead of people. Um. If everyone's you know, out

499
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: for themselves this way, when you have a you know,

500
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: kind of a basic assigned area that you're looking, that way,

501
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: everyone can go about it. And I kind of look

502
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: at it as you know what, I don't I used

503
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: to when I was early on. It was always stressed

504
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: about like trying to you know, be in the right

505
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: place before anyone else. Maybe, um, but now let's you

506
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 1: know what, I'm just gonna walk my little spot and

507
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 1: if I get lucky enough to find want to get

508
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: lucky to find one. If not, don't worry about it. Eventually,

509
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: you know, eventually have my opportunity and it's it's it's

510
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: a dumb thing to get stressed out about. So it's

511
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: supposed to be fun. Yeah, I mean all we did

512
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: this whole weekend was laugh and make fun of each other.

513
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: All we did. And that is a good shed hunting

514
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: weekend in my opinion. So so yeah, it was a

515
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 1: lot of fun. And thank you again for for lettings

516
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 1: come down there and walk your property and bring home

517
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: a couple of sheds. That was a lot of fun. Yeah.

518
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: I had a blast man before we before we jump

519
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: off the shed and topic we we've talked about this

520
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: a little longer than I thought we would, but I

521
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: really quickly want to share my plans for this coming

522
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: weekend um, and that would be kind of a good wait.

523
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see what you find. Yeah, I'm

524
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: as excited as it was come down with you. I'm

525
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: maybe more excited, um from a deer hunting perspective to

526
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: go down to Ohio because because of everything that's going

527
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: on down there and you get and you get to

528
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: hunt that property. Yeah. Yeah, so it's gonna be money

529
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: because since we waited a week all that snow is

530
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: gonna be melted, and it'll just have melted. It's probably

531
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: gonna be finished off melting maybe Wednesday or Thursday, and

532
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna get there Friday, so the snow is just

533
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: gonna come off. Hopefully those antlers aren't all chewed up.

534
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: And on my Ohio property, we've got just nothing but

535
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: awesome late season food, great cover, and I've got permission

536
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: to shed hunt. You know a bunch of properties right

537
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: around there where I know these deer were hanging out

538
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: in the late season. I mean I was there in

539
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: January January two. I saw Glenn, who was pushing Boone

540
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: and Crockett. I saw Blades, who's mid one thirties. Um,

541
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 1: we've got trail camera pictures of several other of our

542
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: really good bucks still late in the season that we're

543
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: you know, alive and well hanging out in the area.

544
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: Um I got you know, I saw a junkyard just

545
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: around the corner on a neighboring property one eighty. So

546
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: there's all these good deer that are in the area still,

547
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: And I had standing beans on my neighboring property that

548
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: I can shed hunt and cut corner my property, So

549
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, these deer are going to be there, and

550
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: it's just the matter of finding the sheds. But I

551
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: can almost guarantee there's gonna be a lot of sheds

552
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: in the area. Yeah, man, I hope you find them.

553
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 1: I I uh, I wish, I wish I had properties

554
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: that have that food description. Well, it's not every day

555
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: you run into a standing bean field like what you're

556
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: gonna be walking into. Yeah, it's a kind of a

557
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: lucky situation where they couldn't harvest it. And man that

558
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: when I was there at the end of the season,

559
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: deer were just piling into it. And then I went

560
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: back again January for a little other thing I did

561
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: down there. Wasn't hunting, but I was in the area

562
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: checking some things out, and I was standing out in

563
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: those fields at the end of the night, and deer

564
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: were piling out in the field again. So I mean

565
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: they were still in there at the end of January,

566
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: So I'm sure that they were there when they're dropping sheds.

567
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: But even more exciting to find the sheds to a

568
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: bunch of the deer that I've been, you know, hunting

569
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: a couple of years. That's gonna be awesome if I

570
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: can find those sheds. But probably when I'm the most

571
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: excited slash nervous about is to hopefully, to to some

572
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: degree one way or the other, get some closure on

573
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: the jawbreaker situation. So what's your gut feeling. My gut feeling, UM,

574
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I've thought that this over and

575
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: over again, but I think, my gut unfortunately, I think

576
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: he's dead. UM. And I think I think what probably

577
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: happened is he is. Uh. You know, that shot was

578
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: low and back, had deflected off that limb, so it's

579
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: low and back. I think it was probably the kind

580
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: of shot where and I hate this, I hate that

581
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: this happened, UM, but I think it was the kind

582
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: of shot where he probably survived a couple of days,

583
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: maybe three or four, I don't know, a week. I

584
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: think it's the kind of thing where he might die

585
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: from infection. UM, which is the worst possible case scenario. UM.

586
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: I hope that I really hope that was not the case. UM,

587
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: but I just feel that shot, I think it's probably

588
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: what happened. So my my thought process that you know,

589
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: I tracked him for those two full days after afterwards,

590
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he died yet. UM, but I think

591
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: that you know, most likely he probably returned to one

592
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: of his main betting areas, and uh, you know, my

593
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: thoughts are maybe he succumbed in one of those locations.

594
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: And so if that did happen, UM, I guess the

595
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: the best case scenario, assuming that worst case scenario happened,

596
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: would be, you know, I'm hoping that I can at

597
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 1: least find him, UM and know what happened, UM, and

598
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: then you know, be able to uh, you know, have

599
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: that that memory there in that token of you know

600
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: this deer that I had such an incredible several years

601
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: several year hunt for um. But but either way, hopefully

602
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: I'll find him and I'll know what happened, or what

603
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: I really hope will happen is that you know, it'll

604
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: be a miracle. But hopefully I'll find his sheds. If

605
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: I find his sheds, I will be like a kid

606
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: on Christmas morning. Yeah, I'm rooting for that man. So

607
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: I that brings me up. That's kind of story. And

608
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: I don't remember if I asked it Um on the

609
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: podcast where we talked about your hunt for Jawbreaker. But Um,

610
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: when when you shot him and you didn't find him,

611
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: did you start gritting that property or did you just

612
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: look in the general area where you thought he might

613
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: have went. Yeah, so I, um, the first day we

614
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: blood trail as far as we could and then excuse me,

615
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: and then we started grid searching the areas where we

616
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: thought he would go. And then the second day we

617
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: tried the blood trail again with a dog for about

618
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: half the day and the second half of the day

619
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: I just grid searched every square inch of all the

620
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: properties I had permission to be on. So I checked

621
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: every creek, every pond, every bedding area, every thick spot,

622
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: every blowdown, every ridge, every everything. Um. So you have

623
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: permission to shed hunt some of these properties that surround

624
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: the properties that you can hunt. Yes, so, so I

625
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: think if if he did in fact end up dying

626
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: at some point, that's where you're going to find him.

627
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance I'll be all find him.

628
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: So well, hopefully I'll know one way or the other

629
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: and we'll have some type of closure um to that story,

630
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we'll be able to move on

631
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: from there. But who knows, Maybe maybe somehow he made

632
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: it through and maybe he'll his sheds will be there

633
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: and Glenn's sheds will be there, and Blades sheds and

634
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: Beast and Junk Care and all those stupid slob knockers

635
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: will be in there in one giant in one massive

636
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: pile right there, just waiting for us. So hopefully that's

637
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: what will happen. So that's the plans for this weekend.

638
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: I'm excited and it makes me think about everything else

639
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: I have to do leading up to the two season,

640
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of it. And that's what I

641
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: was hoping we could spend the last half year of

642
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: the episode talking about, is the things that we can

643
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: do right now, as you know, springs starting what we

644
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: can do in the spring to start preparing for the

645
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: deer season, which you know it's going to be here

646
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: before we know it. Um. So it's a handful of

647
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: different things I've got going on and some kind of

648
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: interesting plans on my front um. But I'm curious to

649
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: kick it over to you first, and uh, do you

650
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: have anything the already that you're already doing or already

651
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: thinking about planning for that you want to do in

652
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks or months to start that preparation. Yeah,

653
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean, well, as you know, and you're the same way. Uh,

654
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: and you never really stopped planning for a deer season.

655
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean as soon as this deer season was over.

656
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: You know, although this past deer season, I was focused

657
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: on getting my buddy Ryan a buck and I kind

658
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: of came second. This year, I'm back to hunting again,

659
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: and um, you know what I'm thinking about right now is,

660
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: you know, there's a there's a couple of things. One

661
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: is still narrowing down to try to find the perfect

662
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: stand location. Um, knowing what crops are going to be

663
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: in what fields will have you know, will help. But

664
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: you know it's not gonna be too long. And in

665
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: April and I'm gonna start setting out mineral stations again

666
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: and get my trail cameras back up. Uh you know

667
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: the deer. The deer may or may not be recognizable,

668
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: but it will give me a great idea who made

669
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: it through the winter. And you know that that can

670
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: tell you a lot about the upcoming season. Yeah, absolutely,

671
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: are you sorry? Go ahead? Well, other than that, I

672
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: mean I have one, Um, I don't know if you

673
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: want to talk about that right now, but that pinch

674
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: point stand. Yeah, what's what's your plan with that? Well?

675
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: What what we noticed is I wrote an article on

676
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: the Nine Finger Chronicles about this particular pinch point, okay,

677
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: and what we what we were finding is that some

678
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: of the deer, not all of them, some of them

679
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: were skirting that area, meaning we we were missing shot

680
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: opportunities because of a gap in offense. Now I think

681
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: one plan, and there's there's a couple of ideas. I'm

682
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: trying to think of how to solve that problem. But

683
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: I need to close that gap or move my tree stand.

684
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking what's going to be the easiest is

685
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: actually it's gonna be hard upfront, but it's gonna make

686
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: more sense long term for the actual stand because I

687
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: already have a stand hung or lanes trimmed. I'll just

688
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 1: have to go back and in and do some light

689
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: trimming when I set the stand up again in August.

690
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna cut The farmer needs a whole bunch

691
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: of locust trees cut out of the CRP field. So

692
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take all those trees and I'm gonna stack

693
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: them down in this low spot where they're crossing, basically

694
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: making a little wall and forcing them to use the

695
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: fence crossing that I originally determined as the best place

696
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: to you know, to get a shot. So it's gonna

697
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: take a little probably some summer. As soon as the

698
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: ground gets dry enough to where, you know, when I

699
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: can get on my hands and knees, I'm not gonna

700
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: get soping wet. I'll start cutting down some of these trees,

701
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: pile them all down in that bottom ravine and uh

702
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: hopefully that deters them from that area and they come

703
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: all the way up to where my stand location is.

704
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: It's an awesome idea. I think that's that's really smart,

705
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: and that's something that you know this time of year,

706
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: a great thing to do is is exactly what you're doing,

707
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, going and looking at your current stand locations,

708
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: analyzing you know what you learned from the previous season.

709
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: You know howard deer using it? You know, how do

710
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: the wind affect your hunts? How are you able to

711
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: get in and out? And then start thinking about what

712
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: little tweaks can you make to those locations to make

713
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: them even better. So you know, in your case, block

714
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: block one of their paths so they'll use the path

715
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: it's better for you. That makes all the sense in

716
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: the world. Um, and you know you're stacking trees um.

717
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: You know, another way to do it is you know,

718
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: hinge cutting. If there's already small trees around there, you

719
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: can hinge cut those trees where you cut a small

720
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: tree part way through and bring that top down to

721
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: the ground. That works a really good barrier um and

722
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: creates more covered to um. You know, another option, which

723
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: is the opposite, is you know, in the case where

724
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: we have a farmer's fence. You know this is just

725
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: the low farmer's fence UM. Deer as you know, you know,

726
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: they love the path of least resistance. And so if

727
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: you've got a normal farmer's fence that goes all the

728
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: way across let's say a fence line, and you have

729
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 1: a tree stand in one corner, maybe if you want

730
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: the deer to start using that corner more often, do

731
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: something if you have if you have permission, or if

732
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: it's your farm and you can do whatever you want.

733
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: You know, cut that top wire or you know, pull

734
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: that top wire, you know, wrap that type that top

735
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: wire with a piece of rope and pinch that down

736
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: so there's a little bit lower wire there, and that

737
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: will incur is the deer to cross there more than

738
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: anywhere else because it's easier, and that's a great way

739
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: to help funnel the deer movement where you want it.

740
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: Um there's lots of really cool ways you can do

741
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: that with habitat improvements or little tweaks like what you're

742
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: doing UM to just fine tune sets. And I think,

743
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: you know, one of the biggest things that I've learned

744
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: about hunting deer, especially when when it comes to mature bucks,

745
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: is that the details matter. And you know, for a

746
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: long time, for me, it was, you know, just getting

747
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: in the right area, just seeing the big deer, you know,

748
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: just getting the basics right. But then once you get

749
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: to that point, it really becomes a game of inches

750
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: and you have to start looking at all the little things,

751
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: all the tiny things you can put in your favor,

752
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: because there's so many things and go wrong when you

753
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: hunt these deer that every little chip that you can

754
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: have on your side is going to help. And I

755
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: think this is the time when you can really start

756
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: addressing those details. This this period of time when we're

757
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: not worried about actually hunting, this is when you need

758
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: to Even though you want to go bass fishing and

759
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: you want to go turkey hunting, you want to do

760
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: do all these other things. It's important to steal focus

761
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: on some of this deer prep because this is the

762
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: time of your that you have the time to go

763
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: in there and make these little changes, make these adjustments, um,

764
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: and then it's really going to pay off once the

765
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: dear sism comes. In my opinion, yep, I agree. And

766
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: unlike you, I don't have to worry about planning food

767
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: plots because I don't have properties that necessarily allow for that. Um,

768
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't need to. I don't need to hinge cut

769
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: because the forest, the timber that I hunt in is

770
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: enrolled in a forestry program. So I can't cut trees. Um.

771
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: You know. I I get away with cutting some some

772
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: shooting lanes, but that's a little bit different than hinge

773
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: cutting several trees to create a giant bedding area, you

774
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So my my focus is more

775
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: towards the micromanagement of my tree stand locations as opposed

776
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: to finding ways to hold or grow dear. Yeah. Yeah,

777
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: and that's I think everyone has to look at their

778
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: own you know, everyone is different, Yeah, exactly. Everyone has

779
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: a unique situation. And yeah, it would be awesome. Lots

780
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: of people would say, oh, I wish I own my

781
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: own ground, it could do whatever I want, and yeah,

782
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: that'd be amazing. But I think each one of us

783
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: just needs to, you know, look at whatever the situation

784
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: that we have and then do whatever whatever you possibly

785
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: can do to to improve it. So, if you hunt

786
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: public land, all you can probably do is just adjust

787
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: your your true stand locations. But you know, kind of

788
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: like you all right, if that's all you can do,

789
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: then then dive in full force and do everything you

790
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: can to tweak those to perfection, adjust to learn about

791
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: how those deeries in that area, and use this time

792
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: to start doing some of that work. If you you know,

793
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: if you own ground and you can make improvements, well yeah,

794
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: go ahead and do those things. Um. But you know,

795
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,959
Speaker 1: in my opinion, take advantage of whatever opportunities you have

796
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: to improve your situation and don't just sit there and

797
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: don't do any work, but then complain every dear season

798
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: when oh big Buck got arrange again or can't quite

799
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: close the deal again. Um, but you're not ever trying

800
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: to do any work to improve that. So, and like me,

801
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: and you stress all the time the work you do

802
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: now prevents you from doing the work in October and

803
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: November when instead of cutton tree stands or you know,

804
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: shooting lanes and um, instead of having to do all

805
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: this last minute work, you can focus on hunting and

806
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: not on everything else. Absolutely, this is you gotta do

807
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: the work now and then you're cashing on that work

808
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: in the fall. And UM, I think the more you

809
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: do that, the better off you're going to be consistently

810
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: across whether it's public land, private land, lease, own property,

811
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: no matter what your situation is, the more work you

812
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: do earlier, the better off you're gonna be come season.

813
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: So now now is the time to do it. Um.

814
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: And that's got me thinking about some of my plans

815
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: to um, is there anything else that you want to

816
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: touch the on that that you're working on right now?

817
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: Before I dive into a couple of things that I'm

818
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: thinking about, you know, not really other than you know,

819
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: just just doing what I've always done. But I think

820
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make one quick, one little change this year

821
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: and early season. I'm going to actually focus on parts

822
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: of the timber that I've never hunted before that may

823
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: necessarily not have the largest amount of sign for one reason,

824
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: and that's to confirm that there may or may not

825
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: be any deer movement in that area, and no information

826
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: is still information about the grand scheme of things. So

827
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 1: I think if even if there's zero deer that worked

828
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: by there, unlike the two or three times that I

829
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: may hunt it, that lets me know that I really

830
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: don't need to worry about that. And it's then like me,

831
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm an over analyzer about tree stands, So knowing that

832
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: that particular area is out of my head, I don't

833
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 1: need to worry about it. It just means that I'll

834
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: make a better decision decision when it comes time to

835
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: set my stands and hunt my stands. It's an awesome

836
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,959
Speaker 1: That's an awesome point, um. And it brings to mind

837
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: something I'm actually working on an article about and I

838
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: don't remember, you know, I'm not sure where I've originally

839
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: heard about this concept, um, But basically the idea of

840
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: having a deer desert or a deer kind of no

841
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: man's land. So, like you said, you want to know

842
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: where those areas are where the deer aren't typically going

843
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: to be, And I think there's there's real value to

844
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: having those on your property. You I want places on

845
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: my property where deer an't gonna hang out. I think that,

846
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 1: you know, the next kind of counterintuitive to some people.

847
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: Some people like, well, why in the world you want that.

848
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: I want this to be the best possible, Dear, habitat everywhere.

849
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: I want deer everywhere. I want as many deer as possible.

850
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: But actually, you know, in my opinion, you really do

851
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: want concentrate areas where, Okay, I'm pretty sure there's gonna

852
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: be deer here and here and here at certain times

853
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: of the day. But then I also want to know

854
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: at certain times of the day where deer will not

855
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: be because you know, we need to access we need

856
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: to have safe places we can move through to get

857
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: to where we're gonna hunt, but we're not gonna spook. Dear,

858
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: I need safe areas where my wind can blow where

859
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: there shouldn't be deer. Um. Having those deer deserts is

860
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: a really important asset if you want to be able

861
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: to hunt deer without them knowing that you're doing that. Um.

862
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: And so that's something I'll go into pryb more detail

863
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: later point, but it's something to think about when it

864
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: comes to hunting, like in your case, learning where those

865
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: places naturally are, and that's something to think about when

866
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: you're doing if you own property, when you're actually doing

867
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: habitat improvements, you know, be careful not to destroy a

868
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: deer desert. That's a good deer desert have, you know,

869
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: don't go planting food plots every possible place because all

870
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're never gonna be able get into

871
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: your property without spooking a bunch of deer. So you know,

872
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: really it's something the people that you think about, and

873
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: I certainly have learned the hardware a couple of times

874
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: about you know, the risk of getting rid of deer

875
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: deserts because it can, you know, put you in a

876
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: position where you're educating deer a lot more than you

877
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: want to. So that's an interesting point you make. Now

878
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna transition by asking you a question. Um. You know,

879
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: this weekend we talked a lot about food plots. You know,

880
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: we had that that conversation up on that the last

881
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 1: day we shed it about you know, how awesome would

882
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: it be if you own this property and we can

883
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: make turn this little area into a food plot. So

884
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: what I want to know on your farms or that

885
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: that you are going to be doing some some food plots,

886
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 1: is you know, did the food plots that you planned

887
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: last year work and if they didn't, what are you

888
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: planning on doing this year to fix that problem? Yeah,

889
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: good question. Um. So it's a it's a yes and

890
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: no answer. Um. It from a purely holding deer in

891
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: the area and providing nutrition for the local deer, they

892
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: certainly worked. Um. I had lots of food for the

893
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: deer that lasted through well into the season. I've got

894
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: some late season food sources that they're still hitting right now.

895
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 1: But were they What are those late season ones? Yeah?

896
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: So I planted um overall on my main hunting property

897
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: where I'm able to do habit improvements. I planted uh,

898
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: several different food plots of oats and winter greens, which

899
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: our White Tail Institute is Brassica food plot blend, so

900
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: winter greens and then a little bit of clover. Um.

901
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: And so what I did for I've got two main

902
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: food plots um, and one of them is kind of

903
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: a three part food plot that kind of looks like

904
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: a half of pie. Um. I planted strips. So I

905
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: plant a strip of brassicas, a strip of oats, a

906
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: strip of Braska's a strip of boats. And what I've

907
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: got those oats are the early season food so the

908
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: deer were hitting that in late August, September, October, in

909
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: the early November, and then once really cold weathers start hitting,

910
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: then they folk they move over to the late season foods,

911
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: excuse me, which are the brassicas. So what I was

912
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: able to do is by having both of those crops

913
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: within the same area, I was able to establish a

914
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: consistent pattern that stayed, that kept deer coming to that

915
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: area no matter what time of the hunting season it was.

916
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: So I definitely had deer using those areas all the time.

917
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: Um well, I had those throughout the entire season. And

918
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: my issue this year was just from a hunting standpoint.

919
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: Um yeah, you know, I don't even know if it

920
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: wasn't issue with the food plots, It was more so

921
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: just the population. Just my my deer hunting situation. You know,

922
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: as we talked about last season, there was there just

923
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: weren't the bucks in the area that I was interested

924
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: in hunting. There's only one deer that I really was targeting,

925
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: and um I couldn't. I could never quite get him

926
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: on my farm. Um he was always in the outskirts.

927
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: I saw him a couple of times, but you know,

928
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: I think the larger issues that the majority of this

929
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: farm is open egg land that I have no control over.

930
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: It's it's farm land, and I can't do anything about it.

931
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: And excuse me. That property got tilled up in the

932
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: middle of October because it was beans this year, and

933
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: so they just disked it all up in the middle

934
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 1: of October. And once that happened and the whole property

935
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: is now just a big dirt field, it just killed

936
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: the deer movement um in general. And all I could

937
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: do is hunt the edges is a little bit of

938
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: timber and swamp I have that usually, you know, there's

939
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: some kind of crop in the middle of it. All

940
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: that facilitated, you know, that kept deer on the edges,

941
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: crossing in between and out in andto my food plots

942
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: and everything. But once I had this giant waste lane

943
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: of dirt, it just deer still used my food plots,

944
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: and that was my saving grace. Actually, if I didn't

945
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: have those food plots, I wouldn't have any deer at all. Um,

946
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: So I did still keep deer there. But the issue

947
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: is that because of my limitations, I can only put

948
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: food plots in these couple locations because it works out,

949
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: um with the property owner. Um. Those are on the

950
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: edges of my property. So in a perfect world, I

951
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: would have those closer to the center so that deer

952
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 1: would be moving towards the food and I could hunt

953
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: out towards the edges in the timber. But just because

954
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: these limitations, I can't do that. UM. So I wish

955
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: I could relocate them to a degree, but I can't. UM.

956
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: But when it comes to the actually, you know the

957
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: food itself, that worked great. It kept deer in the area. Um.

958
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: You know. The only issue I had was with the

959
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: front food plot that I planted. You can see it

960
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: from the road. UM. So what I did is I

961
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: planted food plot screen of Egyptian wheat and that block

962
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: essentially like ten foot tall really tall grasses and surrounded

963
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: the entire food plot and provide a wall to make

964
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: this deer feel comfortable using that food plot during the daylight.

965
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: And it worked great. I did it. I did it

966
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,959
Speaker 1: two years ago. It worked really well. I did again

967
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: this year. Was working really well until like November and

968
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I left and I was

969
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: on a trip somewhere and when I came back to

970
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: hunt um, my screen was just decimated. It was all

971
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: on the ground. Like the year before, I had no

972
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: issues that stood all the way through winter. It worked

973
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: out really well. This year, it did not stand well

974
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: and so once once that cold weather hit, the food

975
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: plot scream was down. And I think that that lessen

976
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: my opportunity to see a mature buck during daylight using

977
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: that food plot because it wasn't as secure. So you know,

978
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: this year, I'm gonna try to figure out a way

979
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 1: to to maybe adjust what I'm planning is that screen,

980
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: or plant it in thicker um and a thicker strip,

981
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: or do something to try to make it stand up

982
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: a little bit stronger throughout the winter, because I need

983
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: that to make that food plot effective um and not

984
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: be you know, wide open to everyone on everyone driving around.

985
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: So that's probably what I learned the most from my

986
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: plotting situations past year. UM My challenge this year is

987
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: going to be the fact that, um, you know, as

988
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, Dan Um, I'm actually going to be living

989
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: most of the summer for a couple of months of

990
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: the summer out west in the mountains, um, And so

991
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be back home able to work

992
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: on my food plots So what I need to do

993
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: is I need to do a whole bunch of prep

994
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: work in May um to try to get my food

995
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: plots as ready to go as possible, and then hopefully

996
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: I have a friend or I've got I've got a

997
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: number of friends that are gonna be coming by my

998
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: property checking out, checking out the house and all the

999
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: different things around home, um and hopefully they're gonna be

1000
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: able to grab my four wheeler and go to the

1001
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: food plots and spram a couple of times um during

1002
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: the summer just to keep the weeds down so that

1003
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: when I get back in August, I'll be able to

1004
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: get in there and do my final prep. But it's

1005
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit of a challenge. I'm gonna

1006
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: have to plan a little bit more um than I

1007
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 1: usually do to make sure I get everything I possibly

1008
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: can do done in May and then have everything ready

1009
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: to go in August to get those things in the ground.

1010
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: So it'll be a little bit interesting. That kind of

1011
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: was applying to all of my dear planning because again,

1012
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to have this gap in the middle

1013
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: of the summer that usually i'd be doing deer projects

1014
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: where I'm not going to be. Um, So I'm gonna

1015
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: do a lot of stuff in the spring and then

1016
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of stuff in the late summer. So

1017
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: I gotta plan. I gotta do a lot more planning,

1018
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,479
Speaker 1: a lot more stuff in April May than usual. Yeah,

1019
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're gonna be busy. Yeah I will,

1020
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: but it'll be It'll be good going to uh, you know,

1021
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: going to continue to be hunting in Michigan and Ohio.

1022
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: And now I'm in the I'm in the works right

1023
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: now trying to establish a third place to hunt. Um,

1024
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: trying to find a property in northern Kentucky, maybe just

1025
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: south of my Ohio spot or Illinois or Iowa. UM.

1026
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: So now I'm bouncing around a whole bunch of different ideas,

1027
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: trying to see can I get permission somewhere? H Is

1028
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: there you know, an affordable lease I can get? Um.

1029
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: That's those are the kind of things that I'm working

1030
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: through right now. And that's something that this time of year,

1031
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: it's a great time of year do that kind of thing,

1032
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: is to start planning where you're gonna hunt, trying to

1033
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: find new properties to hunt, uh, talking to people, building relationships,

1034
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: trying to find those places or just researching on your maps.

1035
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: You know, we've talked about in past episodes about gaining

1036
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: permission on hunting land. You know, that was a great

1037
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: time to be working on that too. So that's a

1038
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: big part of my spring prep as well. And I

1039
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, we are going on a market myself or

1040
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: going on a hunting adventure out out west for mule

1041
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: deer this year. So another thing is, you know, if

1042
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: you if you have interest in Western hunting, now is

1043
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: the time to start looking into that because the tags,

1044
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: the points systems, uh they have they have dates and

1045
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: ranges you have to apply for and uh it's right now.

1046
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: You know, some states have already closed let's say, like

1047
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: they're their Elk and their dear their dear Um point

1048
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: purchasing system, so you'd have to wait until the next

1049
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: year to get your points. But if you're if you're

1050
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: curious and you're interested, you know, we we just got

1051
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: done having a podcast um with what's what was his name?

1052
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: I think Robert Hanneman of The Hunting Full ye and

1053
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: uh and uh he so listen to that podcast first.

1054
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: But just as a reminder that if you're planning on

1055
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: doing any Western hunting now right now is the time

1056
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: that you need to start to preparing for it. Yeah,

1057
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: that's a great reminder. That's something I always forget too.

1058
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: And even some of the even some white tail states.

1059
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: You know, in the next couple months you need to start,

1060
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, buying your tags or your points. I think

1061
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: Iowa you have to buy it in before June, I think,

1062
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: and Kansas and some of the western states too. I

1063
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: think it's earlier in the year two. So if you're

1064
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: going out of state or heading out west or anything

1065
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: like that, look into those things. Make sure you know

1066
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: the regulations and and don't miss out on, you know,

1067
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: submitting your applications. Yeah, that's a fact. That is a fact.

1068
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: I think. The only other thing that I want to

1069
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: mention about, you know, what we should be doing right now.

1070
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: We won't go into much detail, and I want to

1071
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: have a couple of podcasts at least one diving deep

1072
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: into us again. But it's it's scouting, right You should

1073
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: be scouting all year long. But really right now is

1074
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: one of the best times of your scout because in

1075
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: most states, at least in the northern States, we're just

1076
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: starting to have our snow melt and when that snow

1077
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: just melts. That's a perfect time to really start seeing

1078
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: some sign from the past fall. So we'll talk more

1079
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: about that in the future. But if you're if you're

1080
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: itching to do some spring scouting, i'd really encourage you

1081
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: to listen to episode number three of the podcast. We

1082
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: had Dan in Fault on and he talked about some

1083
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: of his spring scouting ideas and that was really helpful stuff.

1084
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: And I actually just posted a blog post today, um

1085
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: sharing five tips from Dan in fault about spring scouting,

1086
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: So we'll link to that in the show notes as well.

1087
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: That that's some good stuff. And speaking of itching, do

1088
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: you're scouting now because you don't want poison ivy? I

1089
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: hate poison ivy get real bad, me too. You know

1090
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: you can actually get poison ivy in the winter though, too.

1091
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: Did you want Yep? I've got I've got it every

1092
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: time of year, Um, every time I go out now

1093
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm wearing long sleeve everything. And uh, I used to

1094
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: get it so bad. I remember the worst I got it.

1095
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: I was in the emergency room for three days close.

1096
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: It swelled, my eyes shut, it was collapsed in my throat.

1097
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: I was I was helping somebody burn some stuff like

1098
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: a big pile of wood, and poison ivy got in there,

1099
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 1: and the smoke I was working in got on my

1100
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: in my eyes and in my throat, and I had

1101
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: poison ivy in my throat. Oh wow, it was the worst,

1102
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: like the worst three days of my life. That sounds horrible. Yeah,

1103
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: so you us to go now, Yeah, avoid poison ivy.

1104
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: I thought I've had it bad. I've never had that bad.

1105
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: I got it. I did tell you about last fall

1106
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: when I got during hunting season, or not last fell,

1107
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 1: as the fall before. I guess I think you showed

1108
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: me a picture of your arm. Well, and this was

1109
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: I got on my face and I got so bad

1110
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: I had to go into the doctor to you know,

1111
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: like a urgent care or whatever. I was hoping they

1112
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: would just give me. I think it's pregnics own or

1113
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: some kind of little steroid they give you when you

1114
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: have really bad poison ivy um, And instead they said

1115
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: I had to get the shot. And they gave me

1116
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: the shot. It's like the shot in your butt, and

1117
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: they gave it to me and I just passed out.

1118
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but it passed out. So

1119
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to get poisonavy anymore because I don't

1120
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: want any more shots in my button. I don't want

1121
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: any more past I heard. I just imagined the needle

1122
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: going going in and you're just going and then falling down. Yeah,

1123
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: it was. It was the real. It was the the

1124
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: real feminine faint where I put my palm up to

1125
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: my forehead and then kind of swoon. That was exactly

1126
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: what I did. Uh yeah, yeah, well I think I

1127
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: think we should probably shut this episode down. What do

1128
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah, no, I did. I want to say

1129
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: something real quick, Corey, if you're listening, you are welcome

1130
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: back next year. I'm just pulling your leg. But you

1131
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: still have to stand at the dinner table. He does

1132
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: have to stand, no sitting. Oh man, that was fun

1133
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: and that was a good time. Um, before we do

1134
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: shot on, I want to give one quick update. As

1135
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: of this morning, I haven't posted on the blog or

1136
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: anything yet, but as of this morning, the brand new

1137
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: wire dunt hats and T shirts are available for sale

1138
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: on wired to hunt dot com. Oh yeah, pretty, I

1139
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: got mine on right now. So I hope whoever that

1140
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: one guy is that you sent a free one too.

1141
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: I hope he hasn't got it yet, because I have

1142
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: mine and I wore it all day yesterday and I

1143
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: wore it all day today. Well, I took it off

1144
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: while I was at work. But uh, those hats are

1145
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Yeah, I'm I'm pretty happy with them. I'm

1146
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: pretty stoked to be able to where the new logo

1147
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: gear and so, yeah, go on the website for sale.

1148
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: Uh you know anyone that you know likes the shirts

1149
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: and hats and wants to buy one. We really appreciate it.

1150
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: It helps us keep the podcast going, It helps keep

1151
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: the keeps the blog afloat and all all that. So

1152
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: we appreciate that helpe. We appreciate the support and hope

1153
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: you guys like it. I hope that's something that you'll

1154
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: be proud to wear and walk around town or the

1155
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: woods with. So my shirts in the mail, right, Uh,

1156
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: it's not. Yeah, but you should have lied to me, Mark,

1157
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: She said, it's in the mail, and I'll take an

1158
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: extra large. I do have good news, though, you did

1159
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: get one of the first hats because the guy who

1160
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: was supposed to get the hat first, Um, my wife

1161
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: was handling the mail. I'm gonna throw my wife under

1162
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: the bus here, but hopefully she won't listen to this,

1163
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: but you just did. She told me she was mailing

1164
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: them out, and I thought she mailed it out. And

1165
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: then today I went in the laundry room and I

1166
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: saw the boxes were still there and she hadn't sent

1167
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: him out yet. So you you got it first. Uh,

1168
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,439
Speaker 1: Now that this this listener of ours never gonna listen

1169
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: again because exactly like those guys were asses. Yeah, jeez man,

1170
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: we better stuff while we're still ahead. Dan, all right, well,

1171
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys listen to us ramble on today

1172
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: all about our shed hunting out exploits and the different

1173
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: projects we have going on. But hopefully this is something,

1174
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, a little fun for a change, because over

1175
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks, we've had a lot of interviews,

1176
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: had a lot of guests on the show, but we

1177
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: haven't really got to talk about what me and Dan

1178
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: are doing. And so I hope that that's interesting on occasion.

1179
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: And you know, we'll continue to keep the great interviews

1180
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: and the great guests and the expert you know, strategies

1181
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: and advice will keep that coming. But of course we

1182
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: want to also make sure that you guys, you know

1183
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: what your hosts are up to So that said, for

1184
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: show notes from this episode, UM we mentioned a couple

1185
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: of things that will be linking to. Go to Wired

1186
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: to Hunt dot com slash episode forty seven. You can

1187
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: also go there and get links to the new hats

1188
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: and shirts too. And as we always ask, also if

1189
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: you've enjoyed the show, if you could please leave us

1190
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: a rating or review on iTunes. It means the world

1191
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: and it really helps the show out. I think right

1192
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: now we have two D seven five star reviews if

1193
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: I last saw, which is incredible. UM, so thank you

1194
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: everyone who's done that. Also, we want to thank our

1195
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: partners who helped keep the podcast on the air. Big,

1196
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: big thank you too, Sick of Gear, Trophy, Ridge Bear Archery, Redkneck, Blinds,

1197
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: Hunter a Maps, Hunt soft In, the White Tailed Institute

1198
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: of North America. Thank you. And finally thank you to

1199
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: all of you guys and girls listening to us today.

1200
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: I hope you've got some big plans this spring working

1201
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: on your prep for white Tail season, and of course

1202
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: I hope you'll stay Wired to Hunter