1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Now from our nation's capital. This is Bloomberg Sound On. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: I know that eliminated Russian gas will have costs for Europe. 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: This wall will be a strategic failure for Pucci. Floomberg 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Sound on Politics, Policy and perspective from DC's top Names. 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: If Puttin feels like he's losing his script politically in Russia, 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: that's more important to him than the battlefield in the ukratis. Unfortunately, 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: what you're doing with sanctions is you are pressuring the 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: middle class. We are pressuring the people. Floomberg Sound On 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. President Biden makes a 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: run for the border of Poland's the US and EU 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: gang up to replace Russian natural gas. Welcome to the 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: fastest hour in politics. I'm Joe Matthew in Washington. Thanks 13 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: for making us part if your Friday. We've got a 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: lot to cover as President Biden visits US troops and 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: gets of reefing on the refugee crisis. Will bring you 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: there for the first hand account from Bloomberg's as the 17 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: Aggie canfrill has been in Poland since the war began. Later, 18 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump puts his kingmakers status on the line in 19 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: Georgia with several endorsements in the state that are not 20 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: looking good at the moment. We'll talk about it with 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg National political reporter Mark Niquette our panel today Bloomberg 22 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: Politics contributor Geenie Schanzano, along with John Sidality's State Department 23 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: advisor and partner with Trilogy Advisors, President Biden and the 24 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: European Union announcing an agreement today that could hit Russia 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: even harder than the sanctions, paving the way to sharply 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: increase shipments of US natural gas to Europe, and by 27 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: that we mean replace imports of Russian natural gas. Here's 28 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: the President's a day in Brussels, the United States, together 29 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: with our international partners, we're gonna work to ensure an 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: additional one fifteen one five fifteen billion cubic meters of 31 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: liquified natural gas l n G for your this year. 32 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: The President says, the move is about more. However, then, Principal, 33 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: I know that eliminating Russian gas will have costs for Europe, 34 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: but it's not only the right thing to do from 35 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: a moral standpoint, it's going to put us on a 36 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 1: much stronger strategic footing. So it's gonna take time though. 37 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: European imports of liquid natural gas l en G from Russia. 38 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: As I'm reading on the terminal here, I learned a 39 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: lot about this over the last a couple of weeks 40 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: stood at about fourteen to eighteen billion cubic meters annually 41 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: over the past couple of years. The President just pledged fifteen. Right. 42 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: It will require new infrastructure terminals, probably pipelines, and of 43 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: course additional sources to make up for the rest of 44 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: It's going to take a lot of work. The President 45 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: made his way towards Poland's border with Ukraine today, about 46 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: sixty miles away from the border where he was briefed 47 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: on the massive refugee crisis. There after meeting with members 48 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: of the Second Airborn. Listen to when he walks into 49 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: the mess hole. He dropped everything while they were eating 50 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: and stood for the commander in chief and the president 51 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: was just in time for lunch apparently. Listen this is 52 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: sit down, Yes, sat down for some pizza. Have pepperoni 53 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: with peppers on that. One told some jokes troops sitting 54 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: at long tables. Watch the whole thing on the terminal. 55 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: By the way, I love these raw feeds on live go. 56 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: As we've told you, more than two million people have 57 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: crossed into Poland since this all started a month ago. 58 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Aggie Cantrol has been covering it for us with 59 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: incredible grace. She joins us. Now, Aggie, thank you for 60 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: being here. How important was this visit for people who 61 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: fled their country? Were they even aware that he was there? 62 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: I think especially tomorrow, people will be aware because Biden 63 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: is going to have a very big presence in Water 64 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: tomorrow and a lot of the refugees that flee go 65 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 1: to Warsaw from the border. But what was really significant 66 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: about this visit, especially from the humanitarian focus, is um 67 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: for Poland more broadly to have this sort of international recognition. 68 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: Poland has actually been a little bit on the ounce 69 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: with the EU on quite a few issues in the 70 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: last couple of years, and so this visit from Biden, 71 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: as well as obviously having significant security dynamics to it 72 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: about built bolstering the eastern flank of NATO, there is 73 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: this side of it as well that this is also 74 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: showing um Poland in quite a good light in a 75 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: way that it hasn't really been been seen in international 76 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: media for the last couple of years. Can you describe 77 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: where these refugees are staying at least when they arrive. 78 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: I realized to your point that that they fan out 79 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: in many cases around the country. But how do you 80 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: house and feed what two million people as they come 81 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: across the border? Well, that's that's really the big question. 82 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: And when I first arrived here, that was something that 83 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: you really saw firsthand that there were so many people 84 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: coming over the border. In that first week or so 85 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: that I was here, there were sixty hour waiting times 86 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: for people to make that border crossing, and then there 87 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: weren't really options of where they go, And a huge 88 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: amount of people in Poland have opened up their homes 89 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: to refugees. So it's actually been a case where a 90 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,559 Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of refugees coming over the border, 91 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: have been able to find options of where to stay. 92 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: There have also been companies like Airbnb that have been 93 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: offering free accommodation for refugees. And then on top of that, 94 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: there have been a lot of cases of um temporary accommodation, 95 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: like for instance, in the town of Semisal, which is 96 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: a border town which I've spent a lot of time at, 97 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: there's a old shopping mall that has been converted into 98 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: essentially temporary accommodation, which is organized into the cities or 99 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: the countries that refugees are looking to travel to. So 100 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: you walk into this old shopping mall and you see 101 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: rooms of people sleeping in rooms that have signs on 102 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: the door for good Dance or but Warsaw or even 103 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: to Berlin. A lot of people don't know about this, Aggie. 104 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: This isn't getting into all the reporting. How are those facilities? 105 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: Are they clean? Is it somewhere where you'd spend the night? Um? 106 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: I think, I mean, nowhere can really be that clean 107 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: when there are that many people there. But I do 108 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: think that there has definitely been a effort in the 109 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks to streamline the process of people 110 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: arriving and also coordinate and manage the accommodation of the 111 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: where people are staying. Something that I also noticed as 112 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: well is that there has been obviously a lot of 113 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: journalists on the ground and a lot of people are 114 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: paying attention to this story. And from the first week 115 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: I got here, when you could go in anywhere and 116 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: talk to anyone. Now and I think that this is 117 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: really a very good thing is that the authorities have 118 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: been more conscious of not allowing people so much to 119 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: film or photograph inside the areas where people are staying. Um, 120 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: they're very much more conscious of the fact that there 121 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: has been not just a media free for all here, 122 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: but also a huge amount of people who have volunteers, 123 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: but also some volunteers may not be with organizations who 124 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: need to have their their documents checked, and so in 125 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: the last week or so, I've seen that become a 126 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: lot more structured in these places where the refugees are 127 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: being accommodated. Have you seen evidence, I don't know if 128 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: it's possible from your perspective, but evidence of aid from 129 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: countries like the US actually arriving two border towns and 130 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: improving conditions. Oh. Absolutely, there's there's a huge amount of 131 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: aid arriving here every day. UM, I can't say I've 132 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: seen any directly from the US. However, something that is 133 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: very apparent and is the amount of foreign number plates 134 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: that are in this area, the amount of cars that 135 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: I see that have Spanish number plates or German number plates. 136 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: And quite often it is really just people saying, hey, 137 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: I pulled all this stuff together, I wanted to ship 138 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: it down here and since seeing as I've been here 139 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: for several weeks now, I've also been contacted by friends 140 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: of friends and other people who have seen that I've 141 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: been working here and just come and asking me personally 142 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: how they managed to how they would managed to just 143 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: deliver the stuff. And that's actually how a huge amount 144 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: of the donations have come. And it's really then a 145 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: massive task for the organizers and the volunteers on the 146 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: ground here to then sort of piece out what is 147 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: still needed, what they need more of, and try and 148 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: make those lists clear to the people who very generous, 149 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: but often there needs to be a bit more direction 150 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: sometimes in what is being donated and how it's being donated. 151 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: We heard from the Pentagon that Ukrainians were driving themselves 152 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: into Poland to also to pick up military equipment that 153 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:18,359 Speaker 1: the US and in NATO countries were providing to the Ukrainians. 154 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: Do you have any sense of whether they're steering those 155 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: people away from refugee camps, away from civilian areas or 156 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: would you not know since they're they're taking civilian on 157 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: marked cards to begin with, um, I honestly wouldn't know. However, 158 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: I have spoken to people who are doing deliveries across 159 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: the border, who while a lot of their deliveries may 160 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: be humanitarian in nature, they will be providing other things 161 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: as well. Um. For obvious reasons, a lot of the 162 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: people I've spoken to don't want to talk about what 163 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: routes they're taking or how they're taking them over the border. Um. 164 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: And when it comes to those sort of deliveries, that's 165 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: also a big factor of where I was today, where 166 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: Biden was today as well. I was in Gesshof, which 167 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: is essentially the largest local airport UM and Biden arrived 168 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: there today to speak to the eight second Airborne and 169 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: this small town of only about two people has essentially 170 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: been a key artery in providing humanitarian and military supplies 171 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: to Ukraine because it's sort of the last stop from 172 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: air travel before those uh those supplies and then shipped 173 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,479 Speaker 1: across the border in trucks. You've been there for weeks, Aggie. 174 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: What is the image you will not be able to forget, 175 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: the one that you'll think back on to represent this 176 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: this period of time after you leave. The thing that 177 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: sticks out to me. I spoke recently to a woman 178 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: who couldn't have been older than twenty UM and she 179 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: has been. She has lost contact with her brother for 180 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: a very long time, who was stuck in the city 181 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: of Mariopol, and now she's heard from him again, but 182 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: she feels like she doesn't know for how long she's 183 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: able to hear from him. And she has left with 184 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: her mother, and she has left her brother and her 185 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: father in Ukraine. And they were sitting in the station 186 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: with a very large dog that was their pet that 187 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: they brought over, and she was just looking at her 188 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: phone both before and after this short interview I had 189 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: with her, and she was saying she was just waiting 190 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 1: that she can speak to her brother. This is the 191 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: kind of reporting you can only do by being there. 192 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 1: And I don't know how long you're going to be 193 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: on assignment, Aggie, but we're all fortunate to have you 194 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: there and we're all benefits of your reporting. I appreciate 195 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: your time coming on with us today. Thank you. Coming up, 196 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: we assemble the panel with Bloomberg Politics contributor Jeanie Chanzino 197 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: and John Cidelity's back with us today. State Department adviser 198 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: with Trilogy Advisors will check traffic and check the markets 199 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: for you along the way as well. An update from 200 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: Charlie Pellett is forthcoming. I'm Joe Matthew and this is Bloomberg. 201 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg. You sound on with Joe Matthew 202 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. Chilling story from Bloomberg's Peter Martin here 203 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: in the DC Bureau that the Biden administration worried Vladimir 204 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: Prutin may lash out dangerously, he writes, as Russian troops 205 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: find themselves bogged down in Ukraine. As Peter says, Plutin 206 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: tends to act out, not back down. That's where we 207 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: start with the panel today. Bloomberg Politics contributor Jeanie Schanzana 208 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: was with us along with John Cieliti's State depropert advisor 209 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: and partner with Trilogy Advisors. Welcome to both of you. Genie, 210 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: you you read further into this, you follow the ball 211 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: down here, and this is why the administration is can 212 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: tinue to worry about the possibility of a chemical attack 213 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: or even as I read here, a tactical nuclear weapon 214 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: attack following several days of conversations at least two days 215 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: in Europe with the President or NATO allies. Do we 216 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: know what that response would be if that happened. That's 217 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: a game changer, right, It is a game changer, and 218 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: I think it's a very real concern and real possibility. 219 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I woke up this morning reading on the 220 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: terminal and the numbers are just, you know, enormous. Seven 221 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: NATO stopped talking about seven to fifteen thousand Russians dead 222 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: in one month potentially. You know, obviously Russia isn't isn't 223 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: agreeing with that wounded thirty thousand to forty thousand. You 224 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: compare that to what we've experienced in terms of deaths 225 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: in Iraq and Afghanistan doesn't even approach anywhere near that, 226 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: and that changed are the way we think about war 227 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: in the world. So you can imagine, and that's why 228 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: I think you hear the administration rightly trying to prepare 229 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: and being concerned that these are very real possibilities biological 230 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: nuclear attacks, you know, some kind of you know, chemical weapon, 231 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: and Russia has done this before, so it is not 232 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: out of the realm of possibility. But that's not sanctions, 233 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: right John. When we think about whatever severe consequences or 234 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: however the administration likes to term it, this is that 235 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: would have to be something that we we haven't seen yet. 236 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: The President indicated today it would be proportional. But where 237 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: do you begin if you're trying to avoid a military conflict. 238 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: It's a great question. And one of the things that 239 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: President Biden and his team are going to have to 240 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: be practicing in the days and weeks and potentially in 241 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: the months ahead is strategic ambiguity. You've got to keep 242 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: Putin off of his feet, off balance, and not know 243 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: what's coming in. One of the other concerns that we have, 244 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: in addition to what Genie is talking about here with 245 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: biological or chemical weapons, and of course, Joe, to your point, 246 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: about a tactical nuclear weapon, which Putin's doctrine does allow for. 247 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: These have been published in Russian military journals, is also 248 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: the very real possibility of a cyber attack. And President 249 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: Biden has already been warning the US economy about a 250 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: possible cyber attack. So there's a number of options available 251 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: to Putin, And I think it all depends on the 252 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: extent to which the US is potentially further arming the 253 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: Ukrainian military with meigs, with anti aircraft missile systems and 254 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: the like, and uh, he's doing this to terrorize and 255 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: to put fear into the hearts of the U S 256 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: and the West, and it's going to be a very 257 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: challenging period ahead. Well, when we think about proportional response genie, 258 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: a chemical attack, I suppose you know that that that 259 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: in itself is a game changer beyond a cyber attack. 260 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: That seems like a different class to meet as a 261 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: chemical or even if or say a nuclear attack, which 262 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: some people don't think possible, but some dutes speak about openly. 263 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: Here if you question the mental uh state of Vladimir 264 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: Putin right now, Uh, those responses need to look different, 265 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: right Is there a military spons or? Is that just 266 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: not going to happen with this White House? You know, 267 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: I think there has to be some kind of you know, 268 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: allied military response. What that's going to be, I think 269 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: is still you know, not being discussed or addressed publicly. 270 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: But you know, the idea that we are talking in 271 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: two about a potential biological or strategic nuclear or chemical 272 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: attack in Europe. Yeah, it's it's absolutely stunning for anybody 273 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: who thinks that this hasn't been a game changer in 274 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: terms of the world order. That is a sure indication, 275 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: as is the fact that again today President Biden was 276 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: very clear that they are designating or at least despining 277 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: of Vladimir Putin as a war criminal. You can't walk 278 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: back from these kinds of discussions and these kinds of statements. 279 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: You can't just go and negotiate with Russia in the 280 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: future if Putin is still there. So this is a 281 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: game changer. John has the visit to Poland been a 282 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: success for the commander in chief so far? He met 283 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: with troops today, briefed on the refugee crisis, He's got 284 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: a big speech ahead of him tomorrow, and warsaw I 285 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: think it has been a success show in the context 286 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: of Western unity, of Transatlantic unity, uh, for the most part. 287 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: But again we're in the middle of an armor assault 288 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: on a sovereign country the likes of which we haven't 289 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: seen in seven decades. And this war, unfortunately, may only 290 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: be in the opening stages. So it could be a 291 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: tactical success, but we don't know if it will have 292 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: any bearing long term. And and to the concerns that 293 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: are being raised here about the possibility of a nuclear attack, again, 294 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: this has all been part of the Russian military doctrinaire thinking. 295 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: In open journals, our military has been preparing for this 296 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: for years, it just hasn't been part of the public discourse. 297 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: And Vladimir Prutin is forcing the world to talk about 298 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: things that we once thought inconceivable in this modern era. Certainly, 299 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: this that's the thing, this modern era. You know, some 300 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: of us grew up when when we were still concerned 301 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: about you know, a potential uh nuclear conflict with the U. S. 302 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: S R. But you know, you have to be above 303 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: a certain age uh to be there. Certainly, how did 304 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: the trip go today, Jennie for for President Biden. Did 305 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: he get the sort of photo op that he needed? 306 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: And what does he say in the speech tomorrow? You know, 307 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: I think the trip has gone as well as can 308 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: be expected and as well as they could have hoped. 309 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's very important to underscore with 310 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: the German Vice Chancellor said today. He said about the 311 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: extraordinary measures his country is taken. By midsummer, they cut 312 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: dependency on Russian oil by a half and maybe eliminated 313 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: and by almost the end of the year. That is, 314 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: in his words, extraordinary. So if Joe Biden went over 315 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: there to rally support, keep the allies together and diminish 316 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: their dependence on Russian oil, is this a tear down 317 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: this Wall speech tomorrow? I think they want it to be. 318 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: I think it's a question of if Joe Biden can 319 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: deliver that, and I think, you know, that is something 320 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: we have to wait and see. But it really is 321 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: a moment on which he is well positioned to make 322 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: that kind of historic statement. Genie and John with us 323 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: for the hour and our sound on panel coming up. 324 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: We turned to the stump as Donald Trump heads for 325 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: Georgia with hopes of replacing several Republicans, including the governor. 326 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: Will talk to Bloomberg's Mart mcquette here on sound On. 327 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg broadcasting live from our 328 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: nation's capital, Bloomberg to New York, Bloomberg eleven Frio to Boston, 329 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: Bloomberg one oh six one to San Francisco, Bloomberg nine 330 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: sixty to the Country Serious x M Gennel one ninety 331 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: and around the globe the Bloomberg Business app and Bloomberg 332 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: Radio dot Com. This is Bloomberg Sound On with Joe 333 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: Matthew bloom Head minam a terminal. Trump puts Kingmakers status 334 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: on the line as a Georgia recruit, falters that recruit 335 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: is the former Senator David Burdue. Donald Trump wants him 336 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: to replace this sitting Republican governor because of what happened 337 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: in We'll talk ahead with Bloomberg's Mark Niquette. It's gonna 338 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: be quite a day in Commerce, Georgia tomorrow, at least. 339 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is hoping so with a big rally plan 340 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: for the Republican candidates he is supporting to replace a 341 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: couple of sitting Republicans. We're gonna have a lot of fun. 342 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: We're going to support a great gentleman, a great candidate. 343 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: He's running for governor, David Purdue. He's gonna clean things up. 344 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna do a great job. Bloomberg's Mark Niquette writing 345 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: about it, and he's with us now. Mark, welcome back. 346 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: It's great to have you, you say. The former president 347 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: is putting his kingmaker status on the line this weekend. 348 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: Is this all about settling scores from the last election. 349 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: It's a lot about that, Joe. He's essentially targeted the 350 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: top elected Republicans in Georgia who wouldn't go along with 351 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: his efforts to overturn the results of the election that 352 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: he lost in Georgia. That starts with the Governor Act, 353 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: the governor of the Secretary of State, and the Attorney General. 354 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: He's all uh endorsed challengers and trying to defeat them 355 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: in George's primary. So we've got three primaries here. The 356 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: governor Brian camp Pool a lot of people learned about 357 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: during the election aftermath. Donald Trump has chosen the former 358 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: Senator David Purdue to try to unseat Brian Kemp. David 359 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: Purdue is not doing so well Mark now, and this 360 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: is why it's going to be so interesting to see 361 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: whether Trump has an effect on this race and is 362 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: able to deliver a victory for Kemp. Excuse me for 363 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: for Purdue, because as you say, Brian camp is leading 364 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: in the polls. He has fifteen times as much cash 365 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: on hand and fundraising over Purdue um and it looks 366 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: like if if you know, Kemp goes ahead and wins 367 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: this primary, it'll be a particularly embarrassing defeat for for Trump, 368 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: who you know likes to brag that he is endorsed 369 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: and is the most valuable and saw it after in 370 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: Republican politics. What have the issues been in this race 371 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: or is it simply followed Donald Trump make up for 372 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: twenties a lot of it has been that you had 373 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: Um perdue, you know, arguing along with Trump that Um 374 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: Camp is a rhino and you know, Republican the name 375 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: only Um, and you know, focusing a lot on the 376 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: President's grievances that Um the election was stolen and that 377 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: Camp didn't do enough to catch to the fraud or 378 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: rebut the fraud that you know, Trump falsely claims, you know, 379 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: cost him the victory in Georgia. You mentioned the Secretary 380 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: of State Brad Raefensburger is another name that kind of 381 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: became a household name during the aftermath. Donald Trump has 382 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 1: chosen Representative Jody Heiss to one against Raffensburger. Is he 383 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: in trouble Um. We'll see how that race turns out. 384 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: It was looking like Um Raeflisberger was gonna have trouble 385 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: hanging on in that race. It seems like it might 386 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: be tightening up as we get closer to the primary. 387 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: I don't think there's been a good polling lately that 388 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: which show us exactly where that stands. But that's another 389 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: one we'll be watching very closely, because, as you say, 390 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: after the election, Trump had a phone call with with 391 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: Ras Brackensburger and infamously told him he wanted the Secretary 392 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: of State to find seven hundred votes, you know, which 393 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: would have been enough to overturn the result in Georgia. 394 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: He's been on this program as a matter of fact. 395 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: And there's another big one that we're watching with Herschel Walker, 396 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: the former football star Trump endorsed him. He's running to 397 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: challenge Democratic Senator Raphael Warnock. Yeah, that race looks like 398 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: it's not even a race. The polling has Herschel Walker 399 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: way out in front um. And it's one of the 400 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: rare cases where Trump's endorsement also matches Senate Majority leader McConnell. 401 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: McConnell has been on the other side of Trump's endorsements 402 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: in some cases, worried that, you know, the Republicans could 403 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: dominate a weaker general election candidate and lose a seat. 404 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: But in this case, you know, it looks like Walker 405 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: has got smooth sailing into the general election against Warnut. Well, so, 406 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: how important is this rally going to be or is 407 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: it only important in Donald Trump's mind in terms of 408 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: actually changing minds. No, it will be very important because 409 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: the question is will Donald Trump physically coming to a 410 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: state to stump for his candidates, in particular David Purdue, 411 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, have an influence and and help those candidates 412 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: win because this is this will be sort of a 413 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: barometer for whether Donald Trump has the sort of ability 414 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: to be a kingmaker. And if he loses these high 415 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: profile races as a candidates lose, it'll sort of emboldened 416 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: the folks in the party who don't want to see 417 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: Trump as a leader, you know, want to see the 418 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: party move on from his election claims. And it could 419 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: also embolden candidates we're thinking about running for president in 420 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: but you know, are kind of worry about taking on Trump. Absolutely, 421 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,479 Speaker 1: So this is a pretty big deal, this primary here. 422 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: We're not even talking about general election results. Mar you 423 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: just framed the outcome. If Donald Trump doesn't get what 424 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: he wants here, how about if he does. How about 425 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: if there's an upset for David Purdue. How about if 426 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: raffinsburgers packing his bags? Does that make it more likely 427 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump runs for president? Make it more likely that 428 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: the Republican Party stays at attention? I think so? It 429 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: clearly you know, Donald Trump will say that these candidates 430 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: only one because of him, particularly Um perdue, but given 431 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: that he's behind in the polls and fundraising right now. Um, 432 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: and it would just be another sort of example that 433 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: Donald Trump points suit says, yes, I am the king, 434 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: and you know you should think twice about challenge me. 435 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: You're going to the rally, huh yeah, I'll be there 436 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: along with Margaret Newkirk, who hum is our reporter in Atlanta, 437 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: shares the by line with you. Here is the Trump 438 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 1: road show what it used to be, sure certainly is 439 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: it will be interesting if the rally this time changes 440 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: at all from from what he's been doing. Me. A 441 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: typical Trump rally is sort of Donald Trump talking about himself, 442 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: the rigged election, in how great things were when he 443 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: was president and how terrible Joe Biden is. Uh. And 444 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: he sort of also mentions that, hey, there's these other 445 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: local candidates here who are surprised me or that I've endorsed. 446 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: He's got putin to talk about this time, though exactly 447 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: he's talked about putin it at previous rallies too, but 448 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: only crab in passing It's it's been mostly talking about 449 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: him and his record and um, you know, looking ahead 450 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: really to the midterm elections. But this raised this rally 451 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: and Georgia's um it seems like it's more keenly focused 452 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: on really trying to give a boost to David Purdue 453 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: and his other endorsed candidates, because George is a state 454 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: where he's really focused his attention after the election and 455 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: in particular, you know, trying to get revenge for what 456 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: he feels were Republicans who did not do enough to 457 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: help him overturn the results. In Well, I hope you 458 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: enjoy the show. In Commerce, Mark Mark Niquette, who shares 459 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: the byline, has mentioned with Margaret new Kirk our team 460 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: the headline Trump puts kingmaker status on the line is 461 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: Georgia recruit falters. This ought to be really something. Thanks 462 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: for the insights, Mark. We'll talk to you again soon 463 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg. Thank you. Coming up, we reassembled the panel 464 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: for their take on Georgia and the influence of Donald 465 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: Trump on these races, as we also rap a wild 466 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: week in Washington. Bloomberg Politics contributor Jeanie Chantano will be 467 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: here along with John sidlits with us so the fastest 468 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: hour in politics hit sound on. I'm Joe Matthew. This 469 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg you sound on with 470 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. So the Trump road Show 471 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: is back, heading for Georgia this weekend. As we were 472 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: discussing with Mark Muette, you was just in South Carolina 473 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and I'm sure while this 474 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: rally will be wild and likely overflowing, it may not 475 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: have an impact on the primary with a couple of 476 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: high profile Trump endorsements on the line. Let's reassemble the 477 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: panel with Jennie Chanzano, Bloomberg Politics contributor, easy for me 478 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: to say, and John Sidilds is with us as well 479 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: on the Fastest Hour in Politics. Thanks to both of 480 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 1: you for being here, Genie. These these rallies kind of 481 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: a carnival type of atmosphere, are fun to cover, sometimes 482 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: dangerous to cover, depending on who you work for. But 483 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: can they actually have an impact on this race because 484 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: it looks like the candidates that Donald Trump has endorsed 485 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: could be in some trouble. Joe Matthew, I don't know 486 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: what it says about us that we think they're fun 487 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: to watch and to cover. This is gonna be a 488 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: revenge rally, um, this is what it has been for 489 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. There's no race he has been more invested 490 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: in than the Wyoming race with with Liz Cheney, and 491 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: this race with Brian Kemp and Georgia. Of course, he's 492 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: got six candidates and you talked about several of them 493 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: with Mark Um, and you know this is a race 494 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: that he really can't afford to lose. But if you 495 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: look at what is happening on the other side, meeting 496 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: the more moderate Republicans, it's a race they really hope 497 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: he will lose. And we know that because the r 498 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: g A just put up another commercial. They seldom get 499 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: involved in primaries, but this is their second commercial in 500 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: support of Brian Kemp, which speaks the primary speaks volumes. 501 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: They want Trump to lose, they want Kemp to win, 502 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: and they want candidates to be free of the shackles 503 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump so they can pick up more seats 504 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: in Congress and across the country, which they feel he's 505 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: going to cost them again as he did last time 506 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: in Georgia. John is Mark is reporting for Bloomberg and 507 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: told his poles show per Due faltering and Kemp holding 508 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: as much as a double digit lead for the contest, 509 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: which is by the way, it's coming up pretty soon, 510 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: nearly fifteen times as much cash on hand. What will 511 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: this say about the Trump brand if it keeps going 512 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: in this direction, It'll say some things, But I wouldn't 513 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: read into this far beyond the dynamics of the actual 514 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: Georgia race, Joe, And by that I mean that Donald 515 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: Trump remains absolutely the single most powerful and popular figure 516 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: in the Republican Party in the United States. But he 517 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: may have simply picked a lackluster candidate in David Purdue. 518 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: Governor Kemp is the incumbent governor, which is why the 519 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: Republican Republican Governors Association is putting in so much money. 520 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: They want to protect their incumbents. But he's running a 521 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: pretty disciplined campaign. He's governed as a conservative. He lifted 522 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: COVID COVID restrictions early, he enacted voting reforms, and he 523 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: just repealed temporarily a cent gas tacts on every gallon 524 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: of gas. So he's running a smart campaign. It's a 525 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: discipline campaign, and Trump may have just made a mistake here, 526 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: but I don't think this blemish his Trump's ability to 527 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 1: influence elections in other parts of the country, and depending 528 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: on how the rally goes and how much Trump can 529 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: talk up Perdue. He may be able to shave a 530 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: couple of points off of Kemp's lead, but it looks 531 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: like Kemp is going to win this one. As I 532 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: read in Mark's reporting, Genie, and he reminds us President 533 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: Trump became the first Republican presidential candidate to lose the 534 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: state in twenty eight years. So is this more about 535 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump more about the state of Georgia. He did, 536 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: and that this is what is frustrating too many Republicans 537 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: and what Democrats have to hope happens again. He is 538 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: not backing candidates because they are going to they are 539 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: the best candidates or their best position to win. As 540 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: if he was choosing in this race, he would have 541 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: chosen Kemp, you know, to to John's point, but he 542 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: is picking them because he doesn't like them, because they 543 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: didn't support him in and that is a recipe for disaster. 544 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,959 Speaker 1: And we've seen this over and over again. His choices 545 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: in Alabama, his choice in Pennsylvania, you know, his Nancy 546 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: Math South Carolina, Rodney Davis in Illinois. You can go 547 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: on and on. Those people are doing okay. Despite the 548 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: fact that he is he's not supportive of them. So yes, 549 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: he does remain a lee as as the former president, 550 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: the most important voice in the Republican party to date, 551 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: but it's not going to help Republicans do as well 552 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: as they should, quite frankly in this mid term if 553 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: he keeps this up. This is an incredibly busy week 554 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: in politics, a noisy week, from the campaign trail to 555 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: a war in Europe, of course, the President traveling. That's 556 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: been a heck of a lot going on that has 557 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: distracted the country in in my humble opinion, from the 558 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 1: Supreme Court confirmation hearings, and I I I probably am 559 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: more disposed to say that because I spent the week 560 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: listening to them and watching them. I know you did 561 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: to Genie, historic in their own right. Just this process 562 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: is something that's fascinating, and of course having the historic 563 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: nominee as the first black woman is an extra layer. Uh. 564 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: But we learned today that Senator Joe Manchin is going 565 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: to support the President's nomination of Judge Kitanji Brown Jackson. 566 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: After everything you saw this week, Genie, is it now 567 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: said and done? I think it is. I think she will, 568 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, very narrowly win, but you know, there are 569 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: still some potential wrinkles ahead. You know, what would happen 570 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: if the committee deadlocked? Um, you know there is a 571 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: way out of that, but we haven't seen that in 572 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: you know, something like over a hundred years, probably more. Um, 573 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,479 Speaker 1: you know, this is what we're facing. So I do 574 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: think in the end, she moves out of committee, she 575 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: gets to the floor, right, I am not thinking she 576 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: gets many Republican votes, if if even one. But you know, 577 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: it is stunning because she is a very strong nominee. 578 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: She is also this historic pick, so it is stunning 579 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: that she is going to go probably at fifty one. 580 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: You know, is it a problem, John, that we're talking 581 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: about such a potentially close outcome here for an historic 582 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: nomination or is that just politics now? Unfortunately, I think 583 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: it's Supreme Court politics and the Senate of recent years, 584 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: almost every candidate now goes through just kind of very 585 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: very difficult, challenging grilling. Um. And we don't know yet 586 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: how Senator Kristen Cinema will vote, although I don't see 587 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: much leverage available to her because it looks like there 588 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: may be one or two Republicans that decide to vote 589 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: for her, and so those negotiations will likely be quick. 590 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: I think there are about seven Republicans, one or two 591 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: of whom might vote for UM for Judge Jackson, and 592 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: so this likely will pass. But it would be a 593 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: rather odd situation if, as you say, in this historic nomination, 594 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: we have a fifty vote in the Senate and the 595 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: Vice President has to be the tiebreaker, and it's entirely possible. 596 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: Are you thinking of the same names that we all 597 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: are based on Judge Jackson's prior vetting and confirmation votes, John, 598 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: it would be Collins, Murkowski or Graham, who's clearly not 599 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: going to vote yes. Yeah. I don't think Graham is 600 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: going to be voting yes anytime soon, not after his 601 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: remarks the other day. It looks like it could be 602 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: either Senator Murkowski, who did vote for Judge Jackson last 603 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: year when she was nominated to the DC Court of Appeal. 604 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: So unless there's something sp cific or telling from from 605 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: the nomination process this week the hearing that would make 606 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 1: her reverse her judgment on the judge last year. UM, 607 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: but we don't know. We'll see what happens there. And 608 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: Susan Collins, she could be mercurial on so many issues 609 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: from a Republican standpoint. I know that I believe President 610 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: Biden has called on her three times to discuss this nomination, 611 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: so there could be a lot of pressure on her 612 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: as well. Uh So we'll see. It'll play it over 613 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: the next several days. What's your take on that, Genie 614 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: or those names in play or are we talking about 615 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: likely no Republicans voting in favor? You know, at this point, 616 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: I'm going to be surprised if she gets more than 617 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: one Republican. And if there is one Republican, I agree 618 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: with John my bet is probably it's Murkowski. If there 619 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: is one republic already been named though, yeah, I don't 620 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: see anybody newing. I certainly don't see Lindsay Graham after 621 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: that performance this week, going over and supporting her. So 622 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: I do think we're looking probably after the same question, Gennie, 623 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: is that a problem based on the historic nature of 624 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: this nomination or is this what we should accept now? 625 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: This is this is the rule, right, simple majority. This 626 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: is the way it goes politically in Washington. This is 627 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: the way it goes now. You know, hopefully we see 628 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 1: it change in the future, but it's been going this 629 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: way since the Boork nomination. Many many years ago. It's 630 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: heading in this direction for a long time. It's never 631 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: been this close and against Sandra Day O'Connor to nothing, 632 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: Katangi Brown Jackson, she'll narrowly get through if she does. Way, 633 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: isn't that something else? It looks like April fourth we 634 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: get the committee vote. Uh are you concerned John about 635 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: this getting out of committee? Um? I really don't have 636 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: an answer for you on that. We'll see how this 637 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: all plays out. I think the larger issue will be, 638 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: as Jeannie said this, we'll get out of committee at 639 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: one point of another, and then the question will be 640 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: can they get this to the floor by April nine, 641 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: before the east of the recess. I mean that's the 642 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,720 Speaker 1: larger goal here. Well, I'll tell you, well, of course, 643 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: cover it all together here, and that's in the very 644 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,959 Speaker 1: near future here you'll be talking about it and hearing 645 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: about it on Bloomberg sound On. And I want to 646 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: thank Genie and John, Jennie She and Zana who you know, 647 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Politics contributor who was with us almost every night 648 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: here on sound On. Have a great weekend. Genie and 649 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: John sidlits geopolitical strategist at Trilogy Advisors, and a consultant 650 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: to the State Department whose view were always lucky to 651 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: have here on sound on Marches. Women's History Month kind 652 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: of parlays into that whole story. And every day this 653 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: month we're celebrating significant moments in women's history. And with 654 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: your installment for this Friday March, can you believe that 655 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: here's Bloomberg's Nita Young on this day in women's history 656 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven. Record breaking figure skater Debbie Thomas 657 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: is born in Poughkeepsie, New York. She grew up in 658 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 1: San Jose, California, where she started her ice skating career 659 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: at five years old. While she was young, her mom 660 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: drove her over a hundred miles a day between home, 661 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: school and the ice rink. In three Thomas joined the 662 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Figure Skating Club, and three years later she 663 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 1: won both the US national title and World Championships, becoming 664 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 1: the first female African American figure skater to do. During 665 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: many of her career wins, Thomas was a full time 666 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: college student at Stanford University on a premit track. In 667 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: Thomas made Olympic history, becoming the first black athlete to 668 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: ever win a medal at the Winter Games earning a 669 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 1: bronze medal in figure skating. That's today in women's history. 670 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm Rinita Young Bloomberg Radio, Big thanks to Ronita. Will 671 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: have more a couple more at least from Rnita next 672 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 1: week here on sound On. It's always been a pleasure 673 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 1: to look forward to these reports. Thanks for a great 674 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: week on the fastest hour in politics, and for everyone 675 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: jumping in to the program this evening. Aggie Cantrill live 676 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: from Poland was really something doing. Great reporting from Bloomberg 677 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: and great analysis as well from mart Niquett. Thanks to 678 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: the panel as well, Jeannie and John. I'll see you 679 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: back here next week. Try to have a great weekend. 680 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 1: We'll keep you posted here on Bloomberg Radio with everything 681 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: you need to know. I'm Joe Matthew