WEBVTT - Aston Martin - Less Speed, More Stroll 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:06.240 All right, Michael, Yes, for this episode. Admittedly I wanted 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:09.080 to get you like caviar or something, but perfect. I 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:10.799 know the problem that was, I was like, how can 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.840 I possibly expense this to like my boss, my boss's boss, 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:16.320 and like the accounts payable team. So I got you 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:20.800 a very expensive pastry called a key line baby bunt. 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:24.000 Oh I love I always get key line pie. So 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.720 I got you an expensive looking Wow, that is expensive looking, right, 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:31.800 ladies and gentlemen, let me describe this to you. It 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:35.559 looks like the crown that the queen would wear, and 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:39.120 then shoved in the middle are three fresh raspberries, only 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.760 the best. Thank you for this. Okay, So this is 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.160 because Aston Martin is the team today, as Marmes the team. 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:48.000 There's a metaphor in this somehow that they are the 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.239 key line baby bunt of the courage. I don't know. 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:54.360 If there's too many things in a in a pastry again, 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.480 that's that's a good metaphor for them. Actually, yes, too 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:58.560 much in a pastry? Yeah, okay, great, I'm gonna have 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:00.600 a bite, go for it. Yes, please tell me how 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:04.800 it is. Mm hmm. Let me see if I can 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:09.160 chew real close to the micro SMR. Yes, there's some 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:13.920 nice lime. There's some nice sweetness which feels good in 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:15.840 my mouth. Something that's not the first time I've said 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:22.160 that today, And it feels like they need to decide 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:27.280 what this pastry is. It's too many things at once. Yes, 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.240 from my Heart Radio and Sports Illustrated Studios, this is 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:47.440 choosing sides. One Wow, Wow, today's team, asked in Martin. 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.400 I feel like they are a less than in contradictions. 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.520 They're a new team, but they're also kind of historic 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.440 and have a really storied name behind them. There are 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:58.880 a team that tries to be calm on the surface 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.680 and cool and collected, but then they've got a chaotic backstory. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.840 And then they've also got two drivers who could not 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:09.240 be more different in terms of background and race history 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:13.120 and just I think general demeanor as well. So on 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.200 top of being this lesson in contradictions, we're gonna be 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.960 talking about just piles and piles of money, much of 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.840 it illegally obtained. So we've got a lot of drama. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.440 If white collar crime is your thing, this is the 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.600 episode for you. We've got. We've got another episode where 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.320 there's a real, a real high point in the Daddy 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.800 issue Mount Olympus right like, we're reaching that peak again. 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.800 It's been a little while since we've had someone with 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:43.639 this this level of Dad's stuff going on, so plenty 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.840 to get to today. So first and foremost, Michael, when 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:51.040 I say Aston Martin, what what comes to mind for you? 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:59.560 James Bond, of course, I think that's it. There, touched 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.320 and asked Martin, you know, I don't. I don't know 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.120 if I've ever ever seen one other than on TV. 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.400 I think I'm in a similar boat. I don't think 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.519 I've just certainly never driven one or come close to 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.960 driving one. I don't think I'm rich enough to even 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.280 like be in the presence of one. So when I 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:15.959 heard that Aston Martin had a team on Formula One, 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:21.440 I assumed that they would be a championship team. The 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.399 assumption makes sense, it is not correct, which is fun 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.880 less than in contradiction exactly like, it just feels like 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.880 it should be a number one team. So let's let's 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.960 learn about it. Let's let's talk Aston Martin. So they 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:38.760 are a car manufacturer found in a very much associated 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.720 with with British culture, and obviously a luxury brand, as 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:47.640 we discussed obviously known for being the car of James Bond, 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.760 and it's also the vehicle of choice for certain members 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.320 of the British royal family apparently. I think it's like 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.320 Prince Charles who like demands to be driven around in 0:03:55.320 --> 0:04:01.600 Aston Martin that runs on can you believe this separates 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.320 English white wine? God? Yeah, I know, so Asta Martin 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:12.480 in f one. The year is they entered exactly, That's 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:16.440 exactly how James Bond says it. Yes, nailed the accent. 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.360 So they enter, they use their own engine and their 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.640 own chassis, and they failed to score a single point. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.720 So things are not looking great, but they say, hey, 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.880 we'll give it the old college try again, go into 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:34.120 the nineteen sixty season. Again score zero points. So at 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.240 this point they say, nope, we're done. We're not doing 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.800 this again. It's kind of humiliating and we're this luxury 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.560 brand and we're not winning, and like it's just not 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:45.359 good for us, right, So they leave and they proceed 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:49.080 to not touch Formula one for over sixty years. Yeah, 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.680 they really had some humble pie there. Yeah. So they 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.919 said no, thank you, j K, goodbye for for a 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.200 very long time. So they don't show up again until 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:03.040 the start of season. However, part of ASTI the fun 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.679 of Aston Martin isn't necessarily the Aston Martin team of today. 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:08.760 It's the collection of people who have made up a 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:12.440 version of this team under different names. So we're gonna 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:21.920 have to like back up before we go forward. As 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.040 we've discussed with Formula one teams, they get they change 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.520 hands a lot, right, Different people buy them, they sell them, 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.720 they change the brand when they get bar or sold. 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:31.880 They randomly change the brand, even if the same people 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.960 own it. This is very common in Formula one because 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:38.680 starting a Formula one team from scratch is just outrageously expensive, 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.800 even more so than just buying one with all the 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.520 people already attached, the factory and all of that stuff. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.600 So the year is two thousand seven, and there are 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:50.880 two businessmen who are interested in buying an F one team. 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.880 One of them is an Indian businessman. The main character, 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.440 the protagonist of this part of the story, the biggest, 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:00.160 most flamboint example of the rich and the powerful the 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:04.520 high life, is none other than doctor j Malia or 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:09.640 Malia depending on who is talking. What are you a 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.400 fake one? Oh? So you just just like an honorary 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:16.720 degree or something yeah, yeah, Well I look like a 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.920 doctor and a Dutch businessman named Michael Mole who's less 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.800 of a of a character. But VJ is a massive, 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.320 if one fan. He really wants to bring He has 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.600 this vision of bringing an Indian presence to the sport. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.560 He's just a massive personality. He's got lots of opinions. 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:38.680 He's very flashy. Is I have a BMW pull around occasionally, 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:42.640 one makes do with whatever one can find or get. 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.120 My favorite fun fact is that he's called an India 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.479 King of the good Times because he has this uber 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.960 extravagant lifestyle, has all these houses, spends all this money 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:53.600 even on the team. Is kind of known for being 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:58.040 a little bit ostentatious and their first two seasons at 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.600 Force India are a little bit dicey, but the team 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.159 starts scoring points in two thousand nine, they start to 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.320 rack up a few podiums. Victory for that man VJ 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.800 of India and the team that he has wanted to 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:13.360 own his whole life and really excitedly by the kind 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:18.000 of mid you're going into seventeen. They actually have two 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.280 years where they finished P four and the constructors Forest 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.360 India Force India so everything's looking great. People at the 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.480 fact that sometimes an underdog comes through and does the business. Yeah, 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.800 I think that's what makes formula one all about interesting. 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.720 It also shows that the small budget you can results. 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:39.040 Here's what's going on behind the scenes. So, yeah, we're 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:44.040 at seventeen. Our friend VJ here, you're probably wondering how 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.080 does he have all this money? And that's a question 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.320 lots of people want the answer to. So if we're 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:53.280 going even all the way back to he starts to 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.000 get into some financial trouble back in India. People are 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.680 looking at finances realizing that some things aren't adding up. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.160 A lot of little, tiny things are starting to come 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:07.200 to the surface. In VJ suddenly picks up from India 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:10.320 and moves to Britain have information he was getting eleven 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:15.640 pieces of baggage eleven pieces of onboard baggage. Coincidentally, that 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:21.320 move coincides with Indian law enforcement and other agencies starting 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.440 to come after him to try and arrest him for 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:29.040 white collar financial crimes. There were seventeen Indian banks trying 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.160 to collect the equivalent of one point to billion dollars 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:36.000 in loans that VJ had taken out to gain stakes 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:41.160 in over three dozen companies worldwide. Have politicians allowed Jamalia 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:45.000 to get away? Have the politicians of India deliberately turned 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:46.679 a blind eye to what has been happening for the 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.640 last four years? Now looking good? And then it gets 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:51.560 to a point too, because he did this with you know, 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.120 around the globe, there are now dozens of agencies all 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.600 over the world looking into him for money laundering and 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:02.040 financial fraud, among many other charges. Right now, things are 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:06.320 flying at me fast and furious. My passport has been devoked. 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.400 I don't know what the government is going to do next. 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.240 This is all sort of like I said, building up 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:16.959 all of this explode. Has lost control of his FoST 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:21.400 India Formula one team. This has left him devastated. So 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.319 that's our guy, VJ. Thank you VJ for the the 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.480 fun white collar crime rich people. They're not really that rich. 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:31.520 They're just good at like moving money around until somebody 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.320 calls him out on their ship exactly exactly. So that's VJ. 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.880 So he sort of exists our story at this point. 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.760 So this starts to take us to present day leadership 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.959 because you know, there's this consortium investors that that buys 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.599 the team, saves them and the guy who's leading the 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.959 charge of this group of rich people for the Richie 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.440 rich of the richie riches is a Canadian fashion and 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:59.560 retail billionaire named Lawrence Stroll, which already just sounds like 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:03.520 a ch person. Name Stroll doesn't sound fast either, does it. Yeah. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.600 What's also funny is his last name is actually stru Leovich, 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.000 and he changed it so that it would sound less 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.040 kind of like foreign and his family immigrant family, So 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:13.880 he changed it to make it sound a little more 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.599 imposing and a little more business. Ee, you're going to 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.640 change your name, change it to like one the race 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:24.040 Lawrence Formula one champion. We will be referring to him 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.240 for the rest of this episode as Daddy Stroll, and 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.320 he will soon see why. I'm going to show you 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.880 some photos of Lawrence Stroll so you can get an 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:35.480 idea of what we're dealing with. Here. Hold on, okay, 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:42.960 here is Lawrence Stroll. Okay, Lawrence Stroll. Three pictures, long face, 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:49.640 long face, white hair, white beard, big deep china, like 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:53.319 a caricature. And you know, Drawer would have a field 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.120 day with this guy's face. He would need like legal 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.280 paper because it needs to be so long. And then 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.360 the in the middle picture, there's a one and who's 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:04.640 very beautiful life. She looks like she's about eighteen years old. 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:08.840 Lawrence Stroll gives off this super villain kind of vibe 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.080 you like want him to have, like a fluffy white 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.160 cat and like sitting a chair just like petting the cat. 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.040 That's the way you you just picture. This is Kate 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.160 Lazzutte and Nicole Seevers. They are co creators of Two 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.360 Girls One Formula Honestly, like, I really just appreciate the 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.360 energy he's bringing to Formula one. I think he knows 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.600 the part that he plays and he plays it really well. 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.240 He doesn't try to be liked by anyone. He's like, 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.120 I'm here to make this the best business that I can. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:39.120 And Formula one is a business. Everyone should keep that 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.800 in mind for all decisions made about this sport. How 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:45.040 did Daddy Stroll make his money? So he owns a 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:48.640 bunch of different like fashion conglomerates in Canada and kind 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.240 of owns all these different fashion houses there and some 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.640 retail stuff. Yeah, and as you can tell, he's a 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:57.880 very imposing guy. Um, he's very forceful. He makes his 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.319 opinion known, he makes he make sure you're aware that 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.240 he is the team owner who has a lot of money. Uh, 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.000 and he's been known to butt heads with quite a 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.560 few members of leadership over time. All right, so he 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:14.040 steps in to save Force India and uh, let me 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:18.880 guess he's not so perfect either. So he has a 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.640 son named Lance, and Lance is like, you know what, Dad, 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:27.640 I want to be a Formula one driver. So, prior 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:32.520 to this whole Force India racing point conundrum, driver Lance 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:34.680 is saying to daddy's stroll, yeah, I want to drive 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.120 an F one. You know he did okay. We'll get 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:38.600 it more into Lance's history in a little bit, but 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:40.400 he did okay in the junior formulas. So he's like, 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.520 I want to drive an F one. And so his 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:46.160 dad goes to a little fan favorite team called Williams 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.600 and says, hey Williams. Again. This is like he's like, 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.560 you guys really are not doing well financially. I have 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.720 some money for you, like a lot of money. Like 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.360 I think it's eighty million dollars worth of money or 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.839 something to that effect. It wouldn't be great if I 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:04.880 could give you that money. If Lance were to show 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:09.120 up in that seat, that seems so this actually a 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.560 perfect introduction to a term that you've you've heard me 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:13.360 use but not really go into. It's called page driver. 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.800 So there's a lot of discussion over who and what 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.600 is a page driver, But at the very least everyone's 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.000 in agreement that if, especially if like a family member 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.360 or or you use kind of personal connections to guarantee 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.720 a lot of money to a team to get a 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.000 seat like that's a page driver. So obviously in Formula 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.199 one you do need to still have the requisite number 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.520 of super license points like there are. You can't just 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:39.240 have anyone who's rich by a seat. But still you 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.880 might have some drivers who normally wouldn't be under consideration 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.120 for seats because someone you know is guaranteeing on their 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.280 personal behalf a seat on the on the grid, usually 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:52.000 their concessions made for them and things like that. So 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.640 lands Stroll comes into Formula one very much a pay 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:00.560 driver under the thumb of his father Daddy Lauren, is 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:05.120 Yuki at Alpha Tory considered a paid driver. He's not, 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.160 though there's a couple of cases like Yuki where there 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.120 are some other influences that sort of help their case. 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:13.760 But I think people, especially again, there's a lot of 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.000 debate over where this is tight because I have certain 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.520 friends who do say, like these eight drivers are paid drivers, 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.360 or it's also not someone who's necessarily rich, like you 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.040 can be a rich person who still gets into F 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.960 one on your own merit and doesn't have a parent, 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:28.240 you know, saying I'm gonna give eighty million dollars to 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:29.960 a team to get you a seat. Everyone is in 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.840 agreement though that land Stroll is a paid driver. Like 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.880 everyone's debating Yuki or another guy Joe Guan You who 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.520 has some connections to some Chinese maybe Chinese government or business. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.720 But everyone's an agreement. Landstrole is a paid driver through 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.240 and through. It's just such a rough way to start. 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.200 No one gives you any respect, right exactly exactly, and 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:49.480 he does have a rough go of it. Williams is 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.520 doing terribly at this point, really in the toilet, and 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.000 it just keeps going downhill. And so Lauren said, all right, 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.920 fuck it, I'm buying my own team for Lance um 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.600 and so then he buys racing Point. Lance becomes every 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.560 Sing eight driver and you know, the rest is kind 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.960 of history. But this past year they have become not 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.240 this past year, last year, yeah, before sorry, they're all 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:13.160 blending together. Um became Aston Martin and so now they're 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:17.000 this iconic green color. I love the color palette one. Anyway, 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.320 Daddy Stroll takes over the team or gets, you know, 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.960 some ownership of the team after rebranded to just Racing Point. 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:25.880 They dropped the whole Force Indian name for a variety 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.800 of obvious reasons. And yeah, Daddy Stroll takes the helm. 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:31.880 His son Lances in one of the two seats. The 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.560 other seat is our buddy Chucko, who keeps popping up 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.320 to Checho. Actually, the bulk of his career was spent 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.200 at Force India slash Racing Point, so he was there 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.440 for like an next seven or eight seasons between all 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.360 their different names. So he's he's seen a lot. So 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.840 as Lance made a podium or anything he has, Yeah, 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.920 we'll get into Lance. It's a little more complicated. Yeah. 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:56.520 So so this Racing Point iteration of the team ends 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.400 on a high note. They do get p four in 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:01.560 the Constructor's Championship, so we're like, okay, you know, it's 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:05.600 pretty good. Yeah, yeah, and uh, here's then what Daddy 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:09.080 Stroll continues to enter the story again and again. Uh, 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.720 Daddy Stroll buys a sixteen point seven percent stake in 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.880 Aston Martin around this time. He kind of uses that 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:20.280 steak to help get the team to be the brand, 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.680 you know, the name behind NF one team, not just 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:27.640 a sponsor. So then starting with one, they become Aston Martin. Okay, 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.400 so that's the history. What does the team look like now? So? 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:34.000 Aston Martin is definitely a midfield team. They finished in 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:38.160 p seven in the standings and they have really been 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:42.560 struggling in two with the new regulations. You haven't told 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.920 me one thing about this team that's likable so far. 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.160 Why are we still talking about it? Can we move 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.800 on to the next team? I will say, I think 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:52.960 you're gonna like the first driver on this team we're 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.040 going to talk about it better not be Daddy Stroll's kids. 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.440 It's Lands, no kidd gets, not Lance quick break and 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:02.200 we'll be back. So we're gonna actually talk about a 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:03.920 driver who has come up quite a bit over the 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:08.640 season so far. Name a Lot. Yes, we got Sebastian Vettle. Yeah, 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.800 so we finally get to dive into two. Seb he 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:12.640 has called seb opted on the grid. So so so Bus 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.320 in fact an icon, a legend in Formula one. He 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:17.879 as we've already discussed, he's a four time world champion, 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.600 got all four of those championships, yeah, in a row. 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.000 He's really been a stalwart. I mean he's been there 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.480 for a decade and a half. He's only thirty four 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.320 now as of this recording, so he's he's old and 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:32.280 yet young for for the sport of F one experience too. Yeah, 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.439 and and also comes from some more humble beginnings. He 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.680 didn't come for money. His dad was actually a carpenter 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:42.280 and he's German German driver Sebastian Petal. He started krting 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:45.600 just recreationally at the age of three, but started taking 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.760 it more seriously around you know, late elementary schools around 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:52.560 eight ish, and he became part of this really primitive 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.400 Red Bull junior team. He really started to quickly distinguish 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.840 himself in in kind of senior krding and then these 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:03.320 junior open wheel aracing categories, and finally in two thousand 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:07.320 and six he is called up to the BMW Souber 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:11.280 team before very quickly jumping over to Toro Rosso now 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.879 known as Alpha TOWERI. So, um, what is interesting is 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.119 said could be a little bit of noxious, right very brash, 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.680 very hyper competitive, especially when he's young. He is still 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:21.720 to this day the youngest Formula One driver to win 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:23.679 the world title. I think he beats Max by like 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.199 X number of days and months or whatnot. He was 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.400 one of the youngest everyone his first one at twenty three. 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:30.560 So you had a guy who had a lot of 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:33.720 money and power and fame at a very young age. 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.880 He's this young kid who suddenly, you know, is catapulted 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.159 in this very alpha male team of Red Bull. He 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:41.359 was a guy they had to make a rule. He 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:43.800 used to do donuts after winning championships. We'll get on 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:45.280 top of the car and do the big you know, 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.760 like yell with the arms and the fists in the air. 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:52.440 So definitely a showy guy, not particularly like externally humble. 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.040 Uh yeah, But in his younger years kills the game. 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:59.560 Four years wor world championships. He hits a little bit 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:03.040 of a slum uh the year after his fourth championship, 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:08.640 so in he makes the move to Ferrari and and 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.280 he does do well. He finishes P three in the 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.680 championship Driver's Championship one year he gets two P two 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:18.000 finishes behind Lewis Hamilton's though it's not necessarily super close 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.040 because Mercedes, as we know, is really on a tear 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:26.760 with their bajillion Constructors Championships and Driver's Championships, and when 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:28.760 we talked about this a little bit in the Ferrari episode, 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.400 but they decided they want to move in a different direction. 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.200 The big drama is that they basically announced at the 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.720 start of the season that they are not going to 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:39.560 keep seb after that season, which I think everyone would 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:43.840 agree was a real kind of pr strategy nightmare. I 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:45.439 love you and I want to be with you, but 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:47.240 we're going to break up in a year. Yeah, in 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:49.199 like nine more months, and we're in this you know, 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.879 this super expensive, high stakes sport where you could die 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:54.920 at any time, but like we're done, so like yeah 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:58.359 so and surreal also like it isn't in fact me, 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.879 it is you. He then ends up choosing to go 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:06.000 to be about to be renamed Aston Martin team starting 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:12.879 why keep Sebastian Vettle around? Why keep an older driver 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:17.639 around if if it's not really winning over and over again. 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:19.560 So one of the things that's really great about seven 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:20.919 this was even said about him when he was a 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:23.439 younger driver. He's very good at the technical aspects of 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:26.160 the sport, and it's been said that he can take 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:30.040 the team through how he felt at every corner, every turn. 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:33.600 He remembers when something malfunctions or how it felt or 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:35.920 he didn't like this call or that, so he can 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.359 have he has like perfect recall of all of this 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:41.920 stuff and knows how to talk about it in engineering terms. Again, 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:44.239 not every driver can do that, and even Lance has 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:46.760 sort of joked not Daddy Stroll, but the Sun. Lance 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.480 has joked about like, yeah, suddenly are our debriefs after 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:51.959 races are like two hours long? Because Seb can literally 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.280 remember and he's like, I didn't even think of half 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:56.320 the stuff. And Seb can remember all of it and 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.959 can can like feel the car as he's talking about it. 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.919 So that's that's for teams, right, how much feedback that 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:04.040 is if you have a driver who can speak your language, 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:06.399 and how that can help just the team, you know, 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:08.359 years after he leaves because they have all of this 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.360 data from him. I could see that being very valuable. 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.800 He also can be a very entertaining driver to watch 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:16.800 when he's really on it or or in it. Um 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:20.280 I'd say to personality wise, this is where Seb's kind 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:21.919 of done a one eighty, or I think the public 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.280 perception of Seb has done a one eight. You know, 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:25.920 like I said, he was really kind of brash. It's 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:27.760 not fun when someone's winning all the time, as you've 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.000 said about Mercedes and Red Bull and even Ferrari at times, 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:33.920 and so Seb Sep was always kind of you know, 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:35.320 he'd be a little bit of prankster, a little bit 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:38.399 of a jokester in interviews, but in in his his 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:42.960 middle age, like in his thirties, Uh, it's it's definitely 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:45.399 come across differently. So now, for instance, he is married, 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.040 he does have three kids, and he really is like 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:53.520