1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: All right, Michael, Yes, for this episode. Admittedly I wanted 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: to get you like caviar or something, but perfect. I 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: know the problem that was, I was like, how can 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: I possibly expense this to like my boss, my boss's boss, 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: and like the accounts payable team. So I got you 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: a very expensive pastry called a key line baby bunt. 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Oh I love I always get key line pie. So 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: I got you an expensive looking Wow, that is expensive looking, right, 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, let me describe this to you. It 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: looks like the crown that the queen would wear, and 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: then shoved in the middle are three fresh raspberries, only 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: the best. Thank you for this. Okay, So this is 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: because Aston Martin is the team today, as Marmes the team. 14 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: There's a metaphor in this somehow that they are the 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: key line baby bunt of the courage. I don't know. 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: If there's too many things in a in a pastry again, 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: that's that's a good metaphor for them. Actually, yes, too 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: much in a pastry? Yeah, okay, great, I'm gonna have 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: a bite, go for it. Yes, please tell me how 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: it is. Mm hmm. Let me see if I can 21 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: chew real close to the micro SMR. Yes, there's some 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: nice lime. There's some nice sweetness which feels good in 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: my mouth. Something that's not the first time I've said 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: that today, And it feels like they need to decide 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: what this pastry is. It's too many things at once. Yes, 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: from my Heart Radio and Sports Illustrated Studios, this is 27 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: choosing sides. One Wow, Wow, today's team, asked in Martin. 28 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: I feel like they are a less than in contradictions. 29 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: They're a new team, but they're also kind of historic 30 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: and have a really storied name behind them. There are 31 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: a team that tries to be calm on the surface 32 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: and cool and collected, but then they've got a chaotic backstory. 33 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: And then they've also got two drivers who could not 34 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: be more different in terms of background and race history 35 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: and just I think general demeanor as well. So on 36 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: top of being this lesson in contradictions, we're gonna be 37 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: talking about just piles and piles of money, much of 38 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: it illegally obtained. So we've got a lot of drama. 39 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: If white collar crime is your thing, this is the 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: episode for you. We've got. We've got another episode where 41 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: there's a real, a real high point in the Daddy 42 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: issue Mount Olympus right like, we're reaching that peak again. 43 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: It's been a little while since we've had someone with 44 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: this this level of Dad's stuff going on, so plenty 45 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: to get to today. So first and foremost, Michael, when 46 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: I say Aston Martin, what what comes to mind for you? 47 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: James Bond, of course, I think that's it. There, touched 48 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: and asked Martin, you know, I don't. I don't know 49 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: if I've ever ever seen one other than on TV. 50 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: I think I'm in a similar boat. I don't think 51 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: I've just certainly never driven one or come close to 52 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: driving one. I don't think I'm rich enough to even 53 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: like be in the presence of one. So when I 54 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: heard that Aston Martin had a team on Formula One, 55 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: I assumed that they would be a championship team. The 56 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 1: assumption makes sense, it is not correct, which is fun 57 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: less than in contradiction exactly like, it just feels like 58 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: it should be a number one team. So let's let's 59 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: learn about it. Let's let's talk Aston Martin. So they 60 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: are a car manufacturer found in a very much associated 61 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: with with British culture, and obviously a luxury brand, as 62 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: we discussed obviously known for being the car of James Bond, 63 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: and it's also the vehicle of choice for certain members 64 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: of the British royal family apparently. I think it's like 65 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: Prince Charles who like demands to be driven around in 66 00:03:55,320 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: Aston Martin that runs on can you believe this separates 67 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: English white wine? God? Yeah, I know, so Asta Martin 68 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: in f one. The year is they entered exactly, That's 69 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: exactly how James Bond says it. Yes, nailed the accent. 70 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: So they enter, they use their own engine and their 71 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: own chassis, and they failed to score a single point. 72 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: So things are not looking great, but they say, hey, 73 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: we'll give it the old college try again, go into 74 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixty season. Again score zero points. So at 75 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: this point they say, nope, we're done. We're not doing 76 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: this again. It's kind of humiliating and we're this luxury 77 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: brand and we're not winning, and like it's just not 78 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: good for us, right, So they leave and they proceed 79 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: to not touch Formula one for over sixty years. Yeah, 80 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: they really had some humble pie there. Yeah. So they 81 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: said no, thank you, j K, goodbye for for a 82 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: very long time. So they don't show up again until 83 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: the start of season. However, part of ASTI the fun 84 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 1: of Aston Martin isn't necessarily the Aston Martin team of today. 85 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: It's the collection of people who have made up a 86 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: version of this team under different names. So we're gonna 87 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: have to like back up before we go forward. As 88 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: we've discussed with Formula one teams, they get they change 89 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: hands a lot, right, Different people buy them, they sell them, 90 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: they change the brand when they get bar or sold. 91 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: They randomly change the brand, even if the same people 92 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: own it. This is very common in Formula one because 93 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: starting a Formula one team from scratch is just outrageously expensive, 94 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: even more so than just buying one with all the 95 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: people already attached, the factory and all of that stuff. 96 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: So the year is two thousand seven, and there are 97 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: two businessmen who are interested in buying an F one team. 98 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: One of them is an Indian businessman. The main character, 99 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: the protagonist of this part of the story, the biggest, 100 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: most flamboint example of the rich and the powerful the 101 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: high life, is none other than doctor j Malia or 102 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: Malia depending on who is talking. What are you a 103 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: fake one? Oh? So you just just like an honorary 104 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: degree or something yeah, yeah, Well I look like a 105 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: doctor and a Dutch businessman named Michael Mole who's less 106 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: of a of a character. But VJ is a massive, 107 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: if one fan. He really wants to bring He has 108 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: this vision of bringing an Indian presence to the sport. 109 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: He's just a massive personality. He's got lots of opinions. 110 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: He's very flashy. Is I have a BMW pull around occasionally, 111 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: one makes do with whatever one can find or get. 112 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: My favorite fun fact is that he's called an India 113 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: King of the good Times because he has this uber 114 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: extravagant lifestyle, has all these houses, spends all this money 115 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: even on the team. Is kind of known for being 116 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: a little bit ostentatious and their first two seasons at 117 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: Force India are a little bit dicey, but the team 118 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: starts scoring points in two thousand nine, they start to 119 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: rack up a few podiums. Victory for that man VJ 120 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: of India and the team that he has wanted to 121 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: own his whole life and really excitedly by the kind 122 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: of mid you're going into seventeen. They actually have two 123 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: years where they finished P four and the constructors Forest 124 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: India Force India so everything's looking great. People at the 125 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: fact that sometimes an underdog comes through and does the business. Yeah, 126 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: I think that's what makes formula one all about interesting. 127 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: It also shows that the small budget you can results. 128 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: Here's what's going on behind the scenes. So, yeah, we're 129 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: at seventeen. Our friend VJ here, you're probably wondering how 130 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: does he have all this money? And that's a question 131 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: lots of people want the answer to. So if we're 132 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: going even all the way back to he starts to 133 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: get into some financial trouble back in India. People are 134 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: looking at finances realizing that some things aren't adding up. 135 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: A lot of little, tiny things are starting to come 136 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: to the surface. In VJ suddenly picks up from India 137 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: and moves to Britain have information he was getting eleven 138 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: pieces of baggage eleven pieces of onboard baggage. Coincidentally, that 139 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: move coincides with Indian law enforcement and other agencies starting 140 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: to come after him to try and arrest him for 141 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: white collar financial crimes. There were seventeen Indian banks trying 142 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: to collect the equivalent of one point to billion dollars 143 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: in loans that VJ had taken out to gain stakes 144 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: in over three dozen companies worldwide. Have politicians allowed Jamalia 145 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: to get away? Have the politicians of India deliberately turned 146 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: a blind eye to what has been happening for the 147 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: last four years? Now looking good? And then it gets 148 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: to a point too, because he did this with you know, 149 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: around the globe, there are now dozens of agencies all 150 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: over the world looking into him for money laundering and 151 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: financial fraud, among many other charges. Right now, things are 152 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: flying at me fast and furious. My passport has been devoked. 153 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what the government is going to do next. 154 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: This is all sort of like I said, building up 155 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: all of this explode. Has lost control of his FoST 156 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: India Formula one team. This has left him devastated. So 157 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: that's our guy, VJ. Thank you VJ for the the 158 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: fun white collar crime rich people. They're not really that rich. 159 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: They're just good at like moving money around until somebody 160 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: calls him out on their ship exactly exactly. So that's VJ. 161 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: So he sort of exists our story at this point. 162 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: So this starts to take us to present day leadership 163 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: because you know, there's this consortium investors that that buys 164 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 1: the team, saves them and the guy who's leading the 165 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: charge of this group of rich people for the Richie 166 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: rich of the richie riches is a Canadian fashion and 167 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: retail billionaire named Lawrence Stroll, which already just sounds like 168 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: a ch person. Name Stroll doesn't sound fast either, does it. Yeah. 169 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: What's also funny is his last name is actually stru Leovich, 170 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: and he changed it so that it would sound less 171 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: kind of like foreign and his family immigrant family, So 172 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: he changed it to make it sound a little more 173 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 1: imposing and a little more business. Ee, you're going to 174 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: change your name, change it to like one the race 175 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: Lawrence Formula one champion. We will be referring to him 176 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: for the rest of this episode as Daddy Stroll, and 177 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: he will soon see why. I'm going to show you 178 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: some photos of Lawrence Stroll so you can get an 179 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: idea of what we're dealing with. Here. Hold on, okay, 180 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: here is Lawrence Stroll. Okay, Lawrence Stroll. Three pictures, long face, 181 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: long face, white hair, white beard, big deep china, like 182 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: a caricature. And you know, Drawer would have a field 183 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: day with this guy's face. He would need like legal 184 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: paper because it needs to be so long. And then 185 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: the in the middle picture, there's a one and who's 186 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: very beautiful life. She looks like she's about eighteen years old. 187 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: Lawrence Stroll gives off this super villain kind of vibe 188 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: you like want him to have, like a fluffy white 189 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: cat and like sitting a chair just like petting the cat. 190 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: That's the way you you just picture. This is Kate 191 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: Lazzutte and Nicole Seevers. They are co creators of Two 192 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: Girls One Formula Honestly, like, I really just appreciate the 193 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: energy he's bringing to Formula one. I think he knows 194 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: the part that he plays and he plays it really well. 195 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: He doesn't try to be liked by anyone. He's like, 196 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm here to make this the best business that I can. 197 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: And Formula one is a business. Everyone should keep that 198 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: in mind for all decisions made about this sport. How 199 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: did Daddy Stroll make his money? So he owns a 200 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: bunch of different like fashion conglomerates in Canada and kind 201 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: of owns all these different fashion houses there and some 202 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: retail stuff. Yeah, and as you can tell, he's a 203 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: very imposing guy. Um, he's very forceful. He makes his 204 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: opinion known, he makes he make sure you're aware that 205 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: he is the team owner who has a lot of money. Uh, 206 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: and he's been known to butt heads with quite a 207 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: few members of leadership over time. All right, so he 208 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: steps in to save Force India and uh, let me 209 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: guess he's not so perfect either. So he has a 210 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: son named Lance, and Lance is like, you know what, Dad, 211 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: I want to be a Formula one driver. So, prior 212 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: to this whole Force India racing point conundrum, driver Lance 213 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: is saying to daddy's stroll, yeah, I want to drive 214 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: an F one. You know he did okay. We'll get 215 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: it more into Lance's history in a little bit, but 216 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: he did okay in the junior formulas. So he's like, 217 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: I want to drive an F one. And so his 218 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: dad goes to a little fan favorite team called Williams 219 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: and says, hey Williams. Again. This is like he's like, 220 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: you guys really are not doing well financially. I have 221 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: some money for you, like a lot of money. Like 222 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: I think it's eighty million dollars worth of money or 223 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: something to that effect. It wouldn't be great if I 224 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: could give you that money. If Lance were to show 225 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: up in that seat, that seems so this actually a 226 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: perfect introduction to a term that you've you've heard me 227 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: use but not really go into. It's called page driver. 228 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of discussion over who and what 229 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: is a page driver, But at the very least everyone's 230 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: in agreement that if, especially if like a family member 231 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: or or you use kind of personal connections to guarantee 232 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: a lot of money to a team to get a 233 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: seat like that's a page driver. So obviously in Formula 234 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: one you do need to still have the requisite number 235 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: of super license points like there are. You can't just 236 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: have anyone who's rich by a seat. But still you 237 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: might have some drivers who normally wouldn't be under consideration 238 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: for seats because someone you know is guaranteeing on their 239 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: personal behalf a seat on the on the grid, usually 240 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: their concessions made for them and things like that. So 241 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: lands Stroll comes into Formula one very much a pay 242 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: driver under the thumb of his father Daddy Lauren, is 243 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: Yuki at Alpha Tory considered a paid driver. He's not, 244 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: though there's a couple of cases like Yuki where there 245 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: are some other influences that sort of help their case. 246 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: But I think people, especially again, there's a lot of 247 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: debate over where this is tight because I have certain 248 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: friends who do say, like these eight drivers are paid drivers, 249 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: or it's also not someone who's necessarily rich, like you 250 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: can be a rich person who still gets into F 251 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: one on your own merit and doesn't have a parent, 252 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: you know, saying I'm gonna give eighty million dollars to 253 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: a team to get you a seat. Everyone is in 254 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: agreement though that land Stroll is a paid driver. Like 255 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: everyone's debating Yuki or another guy Joe Guan You who 256 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: has some connections to some Chinese maybe Chinese government or business. 257 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: But everyone's an agreement. Landstrole is a paid driver through 258 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: and through. It's just such a rough way to start. 259 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: No one gives you any respect, right exactly exactly, and 260 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: he does have a rough go of it. Williams is 261 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: doing terribly at this point, really in the toilet, and 262 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: it just keeps going downhill. And so Lauren said, all right, 263 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm buying my own team for Lance um 264 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: and so then he buys racing Point. Lance becomes every 265 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: Sing eight driver and you know, the rest is kind 266 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: of history. But this past year they have become not 267 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: this past year, last year, yeah, before sorry, they're all 268 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: blending together. Um became Aston Martin and so now they're 269 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: this iconic green color. I love the color palette one. Anyway, 270 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: Daddy Stroll takes over the team or gets, you know, 271 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: some ownership of the team after rebranded to just Racing Point. 272 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: They dropped the whole Force Indian name for a variety 273 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: of obvious reasons. And yeah, Daddy Stroll takes the helm. 274 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: His son Lances in one of the two seats. The 275 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: other seat is our buddy Chucko, who keeps popping up 276 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: to Checho. Actually, the bulk of his career was spent 277 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: at Force India slash Racing Point, so he was there 278 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: for like an next seven or eight seasons between all 279 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: their different names. So he's he's seen a lot. So 280 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: as Lance made a podium or anything he has, Yeah, 281 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: we'll get into Lance. It's a little more complicated. Yeah. 282 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: So so this Racing Point iteration of the team ends 283 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: on a high note. They do get p four in 284 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: the Constructor's Championship, so we're like, okay, you know, it's 285 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, yeah, and uh, here's then what Daddy 286 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: Stroll continues to enter the story again and again. Uh, 287 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: Daddy Stroll buys a sixteen point seven percent stake in 288 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: Aston Martin around this time. He kind of uses that 289 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: steak to help get the team to be the brand, 290 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: you know, the name behind NF one team, not just 291 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: a sponsor. So then starting with one, they become Aston Martin. Okay, 292 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: so that's the history. What does the team look like now? So? 293 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: Aston Martin is definitely a midfield team. They finished in 294 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: p seven in the standings and they have really been 295 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: struggling in two with the new regulations. You haven't told 296 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: me one thing about this team that's likable so far. 297 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: Why are we still talking about it? Can we move 298 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: on to the next team? I will say, I think 299 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna like the first driver on this team we're 300 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: going to talk about it better not be Daddy Stroll's kids. 301 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: It's Lands, no kidd gets, not Lance quick break and 302 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: we'll be back. So we're gonna actually talk about a 303 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: driver who has come up quite a bit over the 304 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: season so far. Name a Lot. Yes, we got Sebastian Vettle. Yeah, 305 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: so we finally get to dive into two. Seb he 306 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: has called seb opted on the grid. So so so Bus 307 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: in fact an icon, a legend in Formula one. He 308 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: as we've already discussed, he's a four time world champion, 309 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: got all four of those championships, yeah, in a row. 310 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: He's really been a stalwart. I mean he's been there 311 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: for a decade and a half. He's only thirty four 312 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: now as of this recording, so he's he's old and 313 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: yet young for for the sport of F one experience too. Yeah, 314 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: and and also comes from some more humble beginnings. He 315 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: didn't come for money. His dad was actually a carpenter 316 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: and he's German German driver Sebastian Petal. He started krting 317 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: just recreationally at the age of three, but started taking 318 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: it more seriously around you know, late elementary schools around 319 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: eight ish, and he became part of this really primitive 320 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: Red Bull junior team. He really started to quickly distinguish 321 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: himself in in kind of senior krding and then these 322 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: junior open wheel aracing categories, and finally in two thousand 323 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: and six he is called up to the BMW Souber 324 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: team before very quickly jumping over to Toro Rosso now 325 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: known as Alpha TOWERI. So, um, what is interesting is 326 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: said could be a little bit of noxious, right very brash, 327 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: very hyper competitive, especially when he's young. He is still 328 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: to this day the youngest Formula One driver to win 329 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: the world title. I think he beats Max by like 330 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: X number of days and months or whatnot. He was 331 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: one of the youngest everyone his first one at twenty three. 332 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: So you had a guy who had a lot of 333 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: money and power and fame at a very young age. 334 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: He's this young kid who suddenly, you know, is catapulted 335 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: in this very alpha male team of Red Bull. He 336 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: was a guy they had to make a rule. He 337 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: used to do donuts after winning championships. We'll get on 338 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: top of the car and do the big you know, 339 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: like yell with the arms and the fists in the air. 340 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: So definitely a showy guy, not particularly like externally humble. 341 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, But in his younger years kills the game. 342 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: Four years wor world championships. He hits a little bit 343 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: of a slum uh the year after his fourth championship, 344 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: so in he makes the move to Ferrari and and 345 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: he does do well. He finishes P three in the 346 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: championship Driver's Championship one year he gets two P two 347 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: finishes behind Lewis Hamilton's though it's not necessarily super close 348 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: because Mercedes, as we know, is really on a tear 349 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: with their bajillion Constructors Championships and Driver's Championships, and when 350 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: we talked about this a little bit in the Ferrari episode, 351 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: but they decided they want to move in a different direction. 352 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: The big drama is that they basically announced at the 353 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: start of the season that they are not going to 354 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: keep seb after that season, which I think everyone would 355 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: agree was a real kind of pr strategy nightmare. I 356 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: love you and I want to be with you, but 357 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: we're going to break up in a year. Yeah, in 358 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: like nine more months, and we're in this you know, 359 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: this super expensive, high stakes sport where you could die 360 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: at any time, but like we're done, so like yeah 361 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: so and surreal also like it isn't in fact me, 362 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: it is you. He then ends up choosing to go 363 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: to be about to be renamed Aston Martin team starting 364 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: why keep Sebastian Vettle around? Why keep an older driver 365 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: around if if it's not really winning over and over again. 366 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: So one of the things that's really great about seven 367 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: this was even said about him when he was a 368 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: younger driver. He's very good at the technical aspects of 369 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: the sport, and it's been said that he can take 370 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: the team through how he felt at every corner, every turn. 371 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: He remembers when something malfunctions or how it felt or 372 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: he didn't like this call or that, so he can 373 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: have he has like perfect recall of all of this 374 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: stuff and knows how to talk about it in engineering terms. Again, 375 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 1: not every driver can do that, and even Lance has 376 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: sort of joked not Daddy Stroll, but the Sun. Lance 377 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: has joked about like, yeah, suddenly are our debriefs after 378 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 1: races are like two hours long? Because Seb can literally 379 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: remember and he's like, I didn't even think of half 380 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: the stuff. And Seb can remember all of it and 381 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 1: can can like feel the car as he's talking about it. 382 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: So that's that's for teams, right, how much feedback that 383 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: is if you have a driver who can speak your language, 384 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: and how that can help just the team, you know, 385 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: years after he leaves because they have all of this 386 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: data from him. I could see that being very valuable. 387 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: He also can be a very entertaining driver to watch 388 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: when he's really on it or or in it. Um 389 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: I'd say to personality wise, this is where Seb's kind 390 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: of done a one eighty, or I think the public 391 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: perception of Seb has done a one eight. You know, 392 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: like I said, he was really kind of brash. It's 393 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: not fun when someone's winning all the time, as you've 394 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: said about Mercedes and Red Bull and even Ferrari at times, 395 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: and so Seb Sep was always kind of you know, 396 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: he'd be a little bit of prankster, a little bit 397 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: of a jokester in interviews, but in in his his 398 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: middle age, like in his thirties, Uh, it's it's definitely 399 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: come across differently. So now, for instance, he is married, 400 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: he does have three kids, and he really is like 401 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: the king of the dad joke. He's also interestingly very 402 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: much into compartmentalizing his personal life and his professional life. 403 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: So he has yeah, he has a wife and three kids. 404 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: They have not been seen on the track in years. 405 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: In fact, his son was born like three years ago. 406 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: We still don't know his name. He's never come to 407 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: a race and said Mary like his high school sweetheart. 408 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: And then on top of that, you know, he's the 409 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: other driver other than Lewis who's starting to really be 410 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: known for activism. So in particular, he is very into 411 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: talking about environmentalism and I'll show you some photos in 412 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: a second. Uh. He always comes in on the to 413 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: the track. Most drivers drive in, you know, in some 414 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: sort of like the Ferrari drivers come in Ferrari's the 415 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: acid Martin. You know, Lance comes in an Aasid Martin said, 416 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: bikes into Yeah, so he kind of has this, you know, 417 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: also a normal bike, you know, and and he'll stop 418 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: and take photos of people on the way in and 419 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: has his helmet. He's like dad, yeah, very very yeah. Um. 420 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: He also after Silverstone last year, after the race, he's 421 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: obviously exhausted. He actually went up in the stands and 422 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: picked up litter and so there's now been a movement 423 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: of fans who pick up litterate races after job. On 424 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: top of that, he is very supportive of the LGBTQ 425 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: community and actually or like the you know, the rainbow 426 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: flag on his helmet in a Middle Eastern country. To 427 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: make the point. Yeah, it's almost like we've watched Sebastian 428 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: grow up. Yeah. Seb's got all the likability for this team. 429 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah he he really his back must hurt from having 430 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: to carry the likability factor exactly. It is difficult to 431 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: be Sebastian vettal this is I love it. I love 432 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: the story. I love the cocky kid who was excellent? 433 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: Now who's picking up litter in the track? It's a 434 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: beautiful story. Yeah, this is very likable. Yeah right, very likable. 435 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: I hereby announced my retirement from Formula one by the 436 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: end of the twenty two season. Probably I should start 437 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: with a long list of people to think now, Oh 438 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: my god, I was I liked I liked him, you 439 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: really really liked he was a cool guy. Man. I 440 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: love this sport. It has been central to my life 441 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: since I can remember. I mean, he's not dead. Being 442 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: a racing driver has never been my soul lead entity. 443 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: So he joined Instagram to announce his retirement after never 444 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: having social media, in a video where it looks a 445 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: little bit like a hostage crisis situation. I'm Sebastian, father 446 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: of three children and husband to a wonderful woman. Very 447 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: close up, black and white. But he said he wants 448 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: to spend more time with his family and there are 449 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: a lot of social causes that he wants to put 450 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: more of his energy into. I believe there's still a 451 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: race to win. Farewell and thanks for letting me share 452 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: the track with you. I loved every bit of it 453 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: and may we all not be judged by our first 454 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: Instagram video poorsa. But people are obviously very sad and 455 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: it's kind of the end of an era with him leaving. 456 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: We wish him the best. But unfortunately Michael Costa down 457 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: to only nineteen drivers to choose from. This is a b. 458 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: This is a big loss and affects the trajectory of 459 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: this podcast. But we will adapt and we will make 460 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: it be a strength of ours. Yes, how very motivational. 461 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: So he sebs out. So then what does that mean? 462 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: There's an empty seat, right there is? And so we 463 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: get to talk about something called silly season in real 464 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: time slide whistle that was actually really excellent. I had 465 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: no idea where you were going with us. YOHI is impressed, 466 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: as I'm a clown. I'm essentially a clown. So okay. 467 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: So silly season is a phrase we hear not just 468 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: in F one, but motorsports and just in news in general. Basically, 469 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: F one silly season typically takes place during the summer, 470 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: the August summer break, which sure enough, Seve announces retirement 471 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: right before the last race prior to the break, and 472 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: so here's what has transpired. There are multiple threads here. 473 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: Let me first interrupt unbelievably fun entertaining that this sport 474 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: has something called silly season. No no, no, no, no 475 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: no no. Yes, these men in the carbon fiber death 476 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: tracks stopped. It's excellent. It's excellent. I love it. So 477 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: what do we have to expect from silly season? We 478 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: have got the greatest game of musical chairs going on. 479 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and take you through this. And for 480 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: all the listeners who are big F one fans, remember 481 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: that Michael is new. So I'm trying to break the 482 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: strong simple So Seb announces his retirement the following day, 483 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: So that is then August one, at four am Eastern 484 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: time in the US, the news breaks from Europe that 485 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: our pal, the pettiest man alive whom I love for, 486 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: Nando Alonso from Alpine, is moving to Aston Martin one failed, 487 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: which leaves an open seated Alpine. Yes, so Alpine has 488 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: a very talented young driver in their kind of driver 489 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: development program named Oscar Pastri. Oscar. There's a lot of 490 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: hype around him. He won Formula three his very first 491 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: year competing in it. So that lower formula the same 492 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: in Formula two, and very few drivers are able to 493 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: do that. So there's a lot of questions around, is he, 494 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, a generational talent? What's the deal with Oscar? 495 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: He has just completely moved up these ranks so quickly. 496 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: Unfortunately for him, last year there was no seat for 497 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: him on the grid, so he we spoke about that. 498 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: He kind of got shafted a little bit exactly, and 499 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: it's pretty well known. While he kind of goes along 500 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: with all the Alpine promo stuff, he wants to be driving. 501 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: So so a day after in Fernando Alonzo announces Hey, 502 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: I'm moving to ask Martin peace out. Alpine puts out 503 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: a statement saying, great news. Oscar Piastre, the guy you 504 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: all wanted to see in this seat is an Alpine. 505 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: Isn't that lovely? We have solved this very simple issue. 506 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: It seems pretty simple to me. But it's not called 507 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: simple season, is it, Lily? It is not, Michael, You 508 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: are correct, silly season. People notice within a couple of minutes, hey, 509 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: Oscar is not posting anything to his social media, and 510 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: then sure enough he puts out the most iconic tweet 511 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: of all time, where He says, I understand that without 512 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: my agreement, Alpine f One have put out a press 513 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: release late this afternoon that I am driving for them 514 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: next year. This is wrong, and I have not find 515 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: a contract with Alpine for I will not be driving 516 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: for Alpine next year. Holy sh it. Yes, not just 517 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: we haven't figured out the agreement. It's not officially signed, 518 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: but I am not driving for them. He brought the 519 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: hammer down. WHOA how could this be? How can they 520 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: be on such different planets? So that's a great question, 521 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: to which I say, no one really knows, and everyone's 522 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: asking the exact same questions right now. How can this be? 523 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: How did none of these contracts get vetted or figured 524 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: out before all these big public announcements. What seems to 525 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: be happening currently Oscar when he put out those feelers, 526 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: one of the teams he has been cozying up to 527 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: at least his management has is McLaren again. Silly season, rumors, drama, intrigue. 528 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: No one actually knows. So as of now, we don't 529 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: know who is in the second Alpine seat for next year. 530 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: We don't know what's going on with Oscar Piastri's career. 531 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: What's up for grabs at this point on the grid. Yes, well, 532 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: here's what's officially up for grabs. With seat at Alpine, 533 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: we'll talk about Alfa Romeo shortly. Their rookie driver Joe 534 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: Guan Yuki Sonoda still doesn't officially have an extension one 535 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: of the seats at Williams. Your favorite team, Danda Ricardo, 536 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: who technically should have a seat, could potentially not have 537 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: a seat. I think everyone's over Daniel Ricardo A hot take. 538 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: This is difficult for the athlete. I mean they're really 539 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: driving race by race. They don't even know what's next year. 540 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: They don't even know where they'll be exactly. Yeah, so 541 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: they're trying to prove themselves in this back half of 542 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: the season if there isn't a contract in the works. 543 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, so we are in the height of silly season. Meanwhile, 544 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: Sebastian Battles just drinking on my tie with his feet up. Gone. 545 00:30:54,800 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: You guys can have it polishing his trophies. He does 546 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: have three kids. He's probably a little bit vacation. You 547 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: know what, he may come back, give us a quick 548 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: break and we'll be back. So who's the other guy? 549 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: And I know his name, but it's it's Daddy stroll son. Yes, 550 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: Kenny race. Can he drive? He can? Okay, so that 551 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: is very important. Yes, again he's just a dipship that 552 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: can't drive and is playing off Dad's money, then I'm angry. 553 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: But if he can, if he can drive, it's different. 554 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: There have also been worse pay drivers in history. So 555 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: Lance Stroll is who we're talking about here. He's in 556 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: his early twenties. Um. I wouldn't go so far as 557 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: to say that Lance is polarizing. He's just kind of there. 558 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: He's not even a driver you love to hate like, 559 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: he's just kind of there. Um. He does have some 560 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: racing chops like he he did, you know, do well 561 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: in the junior formulas. Again, it's not like he was 562 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: in tenth place and then got this seat. Um. And 563 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: he has, Yeah, he won a Formula four championship, of 564 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: Formula three championship in those junior categories. Um. And to 565 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: date he has gotten three podiums in Formula one and 566 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: a pole position. So you know, he doesn't know how 567 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: to drive. And and yes, we can debate. You know, 568 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: some of those races are a little funky, but again 569 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: that's the sport, right, like that's you show up and 570 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: you never know what's gonna happen. No one wants to 571 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: root for the kid that's like dad bottom entrance into 572 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: the tournament. But if he just wins, everybody will stop 573 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: saying that. Yeah, you know, it's like he's like it's 574 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: like he's just having enough results for us to not 575 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: like go there all the way. Yeah, and he does 576 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: have a couple of brilliant moves here and there, even 577 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: if it's on a podium, you know. So he's also 578 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: has made some real blusters of error, you know, so 579 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: it's like the blunders have been there. It's not looking 580 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: where he's going. He completely shut. He's hard to root 581 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: for are he's already root for it, But he's also 582 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: hard to like truly despise. Yeah, there's not he's on 583 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: a villain for instance. Personality wise, he's not getting up 584 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: on other drivers, and some of them really have treated 585 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: him with some some like disrespect over the years. What 586 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,479 Speaker 1: you're not necessarily sympathetic, but you're like, Okay, that's kind 587 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: of shitty, you know, like, yeah, I think it's almost 588 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: I think you agree, Like we're sometimes to not have 589 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: any feeling about someone. It's like in comedy If the 590 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: audience loves you, great. If they hate you, they at 591 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: least we're paying attention and and we're responding to you. 592 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: But when they're on their phone, you're kind of like, 593 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: I don't even know how you feel about me. That's 594 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,479 Speaker 1: agree way to put it. Yeah, people are on their 595 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: phone when Lance comes around. Maybe Lance needs to get 596 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: out of his dad's shadow and go race for somebody 597 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: else if they'd have him, because then then we might 598 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: actually see his personality. I don't know, honestly, pretty nice 599 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: guy all things considered. I think he gets a bad 600 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: rap because his dad is a role supervillain billionaire. This 601 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: is Nicole seevers once again. Landstroll early on was a 602 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: little bit of a whiner and you're like, oh, daddy's money, right, Um, 603 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: But I think he's really grown into his role Asmarin 604 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: in F one. And so there's a lot of conversation 605 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: around paid drivers now and people often feel like paid 606 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: drivers don't deserve their spot in Formula one. And you know, 607 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: I think we used to hold this same opinion. But 608 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: if they can continue to do really well and prove 609 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: themselves in the sport, then what does that really say 610 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: about the term paid driver? Anymore. Again, this is a business, 611 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: and it costs hundreds of millions of dollars to run 612 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: a team every single year. You need money and you 613 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: need to pay people salaries, um. And not everyone can 614 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: win the championship every year. So I don't think that 615 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: the paid driver terminology should be used as negatively anymore. Um. 616 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: And so that's why I am becoming a Landstroll apologist. 617 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: The question, though, is what he get on a colamp 618 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: without without Addie Stroll And the answer is no, no, 619 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: All right, JOHI has a strong opinion on this one. Well, 620 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,439 Speaker 1: he likes Yuki, who basically got on the team because 621 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: of Honda entrance. So stop slandering you. So I would say, interestingly, 622 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: there are people who are kind of at least intrigued 623 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: by Aston Martin. If I had to sum up like 624 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: the pitch for Aston Martin, there's a lot of hope 625 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: that you know, you have certain midfield teams like let's 626 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: say Alpha TWI, right, we know they're never going to 627 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: be able to like beat Red Bull because that would 628 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: be a cataclysmic event for Red Bull. You kind of 629 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: know that Alpha Towery has has you know, there's a 630 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: question of the ceiling for Alpha Tawi right as you 631 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: know their midfield team, they're going to be a midfield team. 632 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: I think there is hope that Aston Martin because they 633 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: do a lot of money, and even if they're struggling 634 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: right now, there is a hope that they can be 635 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: a little less stagnant. Right Why couldn't they take off? Yeah, exactly. 636 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: So so if you want a team, you're like, hey, 637 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: there can be a little more, a little bit more 638 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: of like a Russian Roulette situation here, and like we 639 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen, but in a good way. 640 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: They have They have the brand name. You know. That's 641 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: what's so helpful because someone like me who's so new 642 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: to the sport, I just recognized the name right away, 643 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: unlike Alpine or Williams we still don't know or the 644 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: other team so I can't remember. No. Yeah, like it's 645 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: a memorable brand. There's a lot of experimentation going on, 646 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: and I think that that's really intriguing at the very 647 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: least about Astin Martin as a team. There was quite 648 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: a few people were they were just kind of asked, 649 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, aside from like the championship winners, everyone can 650 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: make a case for a Mercedes a red Bull, like 651 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: who else on the grid, especially like Midfield are you 652 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: excited about? And Aston Martin was one where this yeah, 653 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: this point kept coming up of you know, hey, they 654 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: there's potential there. It's a question if they're gonna, you know, 655 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: rise to that potential. But there's more, there's more there 656 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: to be kind of unpacked or on earth than with 657 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: certain other teams that are maybe midfield or in the 658 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: back of the pack. I mean, my pitch for Lance 659 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: is I bet you there's more there from a personality 660 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: and a depth standpoint if he can ever get out 661 00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 1: of Dad's shadow. Now he may not even have of 662 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: a car if it wasn't for Dad, So that's complicated exactly. 663 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: But I want every man or woman to become their 664 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: own person outside of their parents. So that would be 665 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: me rooting for Lance saying, hey, dude, go walk the 666 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: Pacific Crest Trail away from his family and become this 667 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: man that that we is somewhere buried deep inside him. 668 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: Do you want you want like therapy for I want 669 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: therapy and I want him to like throw metaphorical punches 670 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: at at his dad and say like I'm my own man, 671 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 1: and you know, like, but that's not gonna happen. Okay, 672 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: So first of all, yeah, how are we feeling about 673 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: Aston Martin entering the mix with all the other teams, 674 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: because now we have talked about I think seven teams 675 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: now out of the tents, so we're we're two thirds 676 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: of the way there. Well, green is my favorite color. 677 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: We didn't even talk about this. You were wearing a 678 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: green shirt right now? Do you have an Aston Martin 679 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: car on your computer? Can see? This is not my team. 680 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: This is not my team. But um uh, I do 681 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: like Sebastian Vettle very much, and I love the brand 682 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: name Aston Martin a lot and that that car is 683 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: awesome looking. That is sweet. It's like forest green. It's 684 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: like it's a beautiful, beautiful car. So uh wow, that 685 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: thing looks fucking fast. Um so I like him. Now 686 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: they're my team now, but this is not my team 687 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: and that's Daddy's problem. That's that's your fault, dad, Daddy Stroll. 688 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: But also VJ didn't help either. I don't like him like, 689 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: but it's just like this team. Yeah, theah the billionaires 690 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: playground personified between these different rich guys. It is amazing 691 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 1: how much diversity and personality we've had with all these teams. 692 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: I don't don't. I'm not saying diversity and anything else, 693 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: but you know, you think, okay, rich people, how many 694 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: different stories can there be? There's a lot of the stories. 695 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot of different stories, and that is fun 696 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: and fascinating. And at the end of the day, you 697 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: start here and you finish here, and who gets there first. 698 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: It's it's cool. So so overall here and we'll ask 699 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: Rob for his opinion too. In some case, shit about 700 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: Rob and YOHI can I get a curtain up on 701 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: this thing so we don't have to see him? So 702 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: we're okay. Like I said, we're two thirds of the 703 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: way through. Where are we at in terms of let's 704 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: start with teams? All right? So I'm gonna say Ferrari 705 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 1: and Alpha Tory right now are my two favorite teams. 706 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: Not nuts And I don't like Red Bull. Get the 707 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: ship out of my face, Lily. I'm gonna have to 708 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: move to the weird Red Bull flavors if there was 709 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 1: another one, so the bull bile will not strike again, okay, 710 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: And then driver wise, I know there's more drivers to 711 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: to talk about. I like George Russell I like Checko 712 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 1: and I dig Pierre too. Does that answer some questions? 713 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: That does Rob? How are we feeling after asking just 714 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: let me just turn my headphones off. Our opinions are 715 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: actually lining up. School on the teams, I think those 716 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: are my top two teams as well. Drivers, we have 717 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 1: a tiny bit of a difference. Who are you vibing with? 718 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: Definitely the Clerk, Yes, I think he's like going to 719 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: be a big winner. It's just it's so interesting to 720 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,720 Speaker 1: learn more. But I think the Clerk and espan Ocon 721 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: are my favorite drivers. I just love this entire, very 722 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: chaotic podium for you, you're top. Is there an Alfa 723 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: Romeo team? I've always loved that brand. We'll get to Alfromyo. 724 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: But before Alfa Romeo, the team we were talking on next, 725 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: come on it is william No idea what they are, Yeah, 726 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: absolutely no idea. It's been teased the entire season, but 727 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about Williams, which one of the 728 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 1: most storied brands on the Grid. Story team, a lot 729 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: of wins, a lot of triumphs. They have fallen on 730 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: hard times and are trying to claw their way back 731 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: up the grid. But it is it is going to 732 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: be a long, arduous process. I will say they are 733 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: one of the most wholesome teams on the grid. They've 734 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: had some intriguing drivers as of late, and I think 735 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: that amongst a lot of the teams, I think Williams 736 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: fans are some of the most diehard, passionate people. I think. 737 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: I think it's one thing to cheer for a Red 738 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: Bull or Mercedes, but imagine cheering for a team that 739 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: didn't score points for several years after being a team 740 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: that used to win championships. Those are real fans. Yeah, 741 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: So Williams is our next episode. Awesome, Thank you, Lily, 742 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 1: thank you. This has been Choosing Sides f Y, a 743 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: production of Sports Illustrated Studios and I Heart Radio. The 744 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: show was hosted by Michael Costa and Lily Hart. 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