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Speaker 1: welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm Wilfred

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Speaker 1: ll and I am right or Strong. I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: to talk about this episode. It is called Father Knows Less,

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Speaker 1: Episode one oh three. The synopsis is that Alan wakes

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Speaker 1: another William Russ's heavy episode. Yes, Rusty just killing it.

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Speaker 1: How good is he? Like? How is These are things

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Speaker 1: Alan wakes up Corey to watch the rest of the

425
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 1: baseball game with him. Perfect opportunity to have the big

426
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: brother joined him on the couch to watch the baseball game.

427
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I was watching this with my wife

428
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: and she's like, you know, it's so funny. We're a

429
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 1: bunch of episodes in and Alan doesn't realize he has

430
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: two sons, because that's what it's like. It's just like, hey, Corey,

431
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: come and be my favorite kid. And then the way

432
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 1: out is like, you know, oh yeah, by the way,

433
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 1: hey Eric, do you want to come? I think your

434
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: name is Eric. Do you want to come downstairs and

435
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: watch the baseball game as well. It's just we had

436
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: not yet established that Eric was important in the show. Yes,

437
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: I guess it could be played that you weren't, that

438
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: your character wasn't a baseball fan. So he went to

439
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: Corey specifically because Corey was a big baseball But the

440
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: first first, the first episode was about taking me know,

441
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: this was Eric is not really established into girls with

442
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: Corey is still into sports. You know. I think that

443
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: was kind of the distinction. Yeah, but it was what

444
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, all right, he they obviously had

445
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: to have. It seemed like such an afterthought where it's like, oh,

446
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: that's right, I should invite Eric too. It didn't feel

447
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: like it was I mean again, so it was it

448
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: is what it is at this point though the show,

449
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: it's been it's a Ben heavy show. I mean, it

450
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: was Ben's core Ben's boy. Yeah, so we're all still

451
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: trying to find our characters. But it was yeah, just

452
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: hearing my wife say that was fine. It's like, oh, yeah,

453
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't know he has two kids, he's got two sons.

454
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: So then we go down to the living room. Alan

455
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: and Corey are eating their chips on their sandwiches and

456
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: they're watching the baseball game and of course drinking their

457
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: cola drink so prominent. So that's still a thing or

458
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: shows now just show brands right there, Just show brands nowadays. No,

459
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: certainly not kids shows. No, we still Greek everything big shows,

460
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: maybe because like Coke will sponsor the Big Bang Theory

461
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 1: or something like that. Maybe, but I think the rest

462
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: of them are You're still like it's Cola. I mean,

463
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: it was always the serial, even on Seinfeld until later

464
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: when they started to really it was always Odis's right

465
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: where it was just like that's what you would always have.

466
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: You'd have the ODIs cereal and instead of you know,

467
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: it's like you couldn't say it was like Malk. Do

468
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: either of you guys remember how much hatred Michael had

469
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: for the paper bags that you brought home from grocery

470
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: store that didn't make the sound. Then that they're not.

471
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: I see them in movies and kids shows, and I'm

472
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: always it's one of those visual things that but I wonder,

473
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: is that just an insider thing or do as does

474
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: everybody notice that I think it's an insider thing, Like

475
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: do you get triggered when you see every kid show

476
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: or every movie with kids where they go to school,

477
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: they all have that same folder or the same folder

478
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: that they're caring that we always had for for boring

479
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: me to world that was like a yellow yellow, like

480
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: like a generic sport and think something like running works. Yeah,

481
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: it was, That's that's what it was. We are you

482
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: talking about? And every time I see that, I'm like,

483
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: oh god, they got you the same posters in the

484
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: back of That was another thing Michael made a big

485
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: deal about, was like, please take these things off the wall,

486
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: give me real looking. You know, maybe we should explain

487
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: just in case. So paper bags, like brown paper bags,

488
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: make a lot of noise, and so in films and

489
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: film and television you can't have the crinkling sound of

490
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: the bags. So the alternative word these cloth plastic cloth

491
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: bags that look like brown paper bags but don't actually

492
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: make any of the noise, but they don't have the

493
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: right sheen. They reflect light differently, so you can always

494
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: spot them. So now that we've told you, now you'll

495
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: know that every time you watch a movie or TV

496
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: show from the eighties of the night and they've kind

497
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: of gone out of fashion because they actually don't show

498
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: brown paper bags anymore. Um, but you you'll notice brown

499
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 1: paper bags just don't quite look right. Yeah, and they

500
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: don't feel great either. They're like soft and kind of

501
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: unpacking them and packing because's like you've gotta do it's

502
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: got a match. You walk in, you put it down,

503
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: you unpack it, then you pack it again, you walk out,

504
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: you do it. By the third take, you're like, I

505
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: don't want to do this any Please don't make it.

506
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: This is terrible. Okay. So yeah, that that was just

507
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: a little memory that popped up for me. Um. So

508
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: there's some father's son bonding. But Corey looks at him

509
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: and says, thank you for waking me up. This is

510
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: better than going to watch The Blue Angels. Very very

511
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 1: very sweet, very sweet. That kind of the look that

512
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: that Ben gives him is great. It's very natural. Are

513
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: real just kind of looking at his dad like this

514
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: is awesome. That's that's really cool. Yeah, that's cute. Uh.

515
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: And then the next day we're in Phoeni's classroom and

516
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: Mincus wrote an essay as part of his answer just

517
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: for fun. Another joke that just isn't funny these days

518
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: is that Sean's character is going to be a plumber. Yeah, nope,

519
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 1: that's so I wrote them the same. Yeah, all these

520
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: the plumber jokes, I think we're gonna get a lot

521
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: of those we're gonna get a lot of the um,

522
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: you know, making fun of Sean for being poor kind

523
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: of things. Yeah, first, first or second season. Yeah, jokes

524
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: that just I guess people thought were funny at the time.

525
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: I don't know how someone didn't say, hey, this is

526
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,239
Speaker 1: this seems rude. You know, this one didn't bother me

527
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: as much because it's coming from Mincas. Like, you know,

528
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: this sort of the idea that that Mincas thinks he's

529
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,479
Speaker 1: better than Sean doesn't bother me as much because Mincas

530
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: is in every other context the underdog, do you know

531
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: what I mean? So I sort of saw it as like, yeah,

532
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: that is something that he could attack Sean for. But yes,

533
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, it didn't strike me as like the audience

534
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: is necessarily going to be laughing at plumbers as much

535
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: as laughing at that this kid's this little nerds snobbery,

536
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean That. I mean you could also,

537
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: I guess say, you could turn it around where it's

538
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: like Minkus would never be bullied, Like he's like, I

539
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: don't care that I'm tiny, and I'm going to throw

540
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: it back the second that I get it. So, I mean,

541
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: coming from that standpoint, it's actually very cool. It's just

542
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: the way they chose to have him do it was

543
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: a little So plumbers make great money, huge money. Let's

544
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: call a plumber right now, and hopefully you'll get one

545
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: in a week, and it's going to cost a fortune

546
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: because they're very skilled, and it's they make a ton

547
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: of money. So it doesn't land, okay um, and Sean

548
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: calls him a suck up. Corey then falls asleep on

549
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,239
Speaker 1: his test paper. Mr Phoenie collects it and he has

550
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: only filled out one questioned, questioned questioned, one question, one question,

551
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: one question. Well that was that's the funniest joke of

552
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: the scene. By the way, Well you've well you only

553
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: answered one question and you answered it wrong. Yeah, so

554
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: what do you think I'm going to give you? I

555
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: thought that was very funny, funny joke. Yeah, yeah, fahita

556
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: si signor um. He So he says that the reason

557
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: he fell asleep is because he was staying up late

558
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: to watch the baseball game with his dad, and then yeah,

559
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: we we also get the reveal that the Nobel Prizes

560
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: were given out the night before and Minkus had stayed

561
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: up he watched that himself and fresh as a Daisy,

562
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: I'd like to very quickly, just very briefly go back

563
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: to the scene before, because we didn't touch on I

564
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: thought Rusties transition to the joke of you can never

565
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: tell your mom was was also very funny. That was

566
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: that was a good run there where he went from no,

567
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: your mom get yeah, she can never find out about this?

568
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: That was. That was a funny joke. I thought it's funny.

569
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: I actually didn't quite understand it because at first it

570
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: was like, you know your mom. He starts with your

571
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: mom can never find out about this, and then he says,

572
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, because it's father's son bonding. And then he

573
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: pauses and he's like, no, she can never know about that.

574
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: Because I think his head, that's what I liked was

575
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: in his head he was kind of like, well, maybe

576
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: it'd be okay. He was like trying to find a

577
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: way where maybe she could know if we called it

578
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: father son bonding. And then he's like, this is never

579
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: gonna work. I thought it is. No, it's cute. I

580
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: love them. I love the moment between the two of them,

581
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: but I did talk about it. I was like, Hi,

582
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: I wonder is this supposed to be? Was there supposed

583
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: to be some double entendre here. I'm not picking up

584
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: on but I don't think no, not like the grounded, Yes, grounded,

585
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: which is a great double entendre, fantastic When he says that, yeah,

586
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: when he okay, so, um, we're now back at the

587
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: house in the living room, Corey comes downstairs and like

588
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: a total dufe, probably because he's tired, he completely forgets

589
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: that he's not allowed to talk about the game. Right

590
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: in front of his mother. He says, Dad, we were

591
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: I failed to test because I was staying up late

592
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: with you watching a game. And we see Rusty doing

593
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: the pointing like she's right there, and um, then he

594
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: alan gets grounded, gets grounded, which is which is a

595
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: very funny joke, which led to the awkward moment from

596
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 1: my son, who was watching it with me, saying, well,

597
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: how can he get grounded? Oh gosh, he said, when

598
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: a man and woman are really in love. I don't know.

599
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: I just totally avoid it. I just kind of move on.

600
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into this. Yeah, that's yeah.

601
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: So that's a very very very funny though. That was

602
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: a funny joke, and that is one of those jokes

603
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: where you don't get it when you're twelve years old,

604
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: but yeah, or seven, and then as an adult you're like,

605
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: that's funny joke. And they did it in a way

606
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: to where even the way you know, is that true?

607
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: Can she ground you well? And in some ways yes, yeah, exactly,

608
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: it's it was. It was well. It was well handled.

609
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: I thought so too. Um okay, So Alan says, fear not.

610
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to go into the backyard, not the sideyard,

611
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: the backyard, and I'm going to talk to Peeny and

612
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to get him to let Corey take a

613
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 1: makeup test. And we all I can probably guess how

614
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: that's going to go. He goes into the backyard and

615
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: Phoenie is there. Uh and he says, yeah, I'm willing

616
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: to talk to you about it. He explains the situation.

617
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: I felt like, as a parent, I would have never

618
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: had any of this dialogue with Corey standing there if

619
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: I were going to talk to Mr Feenie. Get that.

620
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: The fact that Corey is there from the beginning, in

621
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: my mind, is going to put Phoenie in a situation

622
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: where am I gonna I'm gonna then seem like to

623
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: my student who I have to sit in class with

624
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: that his father has power from to adjust what I

625
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: can do. So I the whole time I was like, Oh,

626
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: make him go inside. You're not going to have a

627
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: successful conversation with your son. This is the cheap that

628
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: the show still at this point is really from Corey's perspective, right,

629
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: And I don't think you could have done this scene

630
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: without Corey being present for it. Yeah, you know, I

631
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: think later on in the show it will get to

632
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: that point. But like we've talked about, Ben's in every scene,

633
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: and that's actually he is an audience surrogate. It's his

634
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: journey every one of these episodes, and so I don't

635
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: think you could get rid of Corey. Corey has to

636
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: be there for this to witness the tension, the difference,

637
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, um, and to witness his dad getting brought

638
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: down by the same foil who brings down everything in

639
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: his life. It does give a Peenie because it gives

640
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: it gives Mr Peenie. It gives Mr Peenie a whole

641
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: another level of power. It really does. It takes him

642
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: up a whole another notch because it's like, oh, wow,

643
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: he can even do that to my dad, Yeah, my dad, Yeah, Yeah,

644
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: it does in Corey's eyes, He's just becomes even more giant,

645
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: which is kind of an interesting way to look at

646
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: Phoenie's intelligence and cultural authority versus Dad's social skills, right,

647
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: and like Dad's so cool and easy going and fun

648
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: and charming and Mr Feenie is just so, you know, tough.

649
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: And the fact that those two go mano imano in

650
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: this scene is great. And they do. I mean, it

651
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: gets to the point where you know, Alan thinks he's

652
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 1: going to walk out there and just be like, all right,

653
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: I'll explain it to him. It's no big deal. And

654
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: you see his face like, wait, I don't I don't

655
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: understand what the big deal is. H They kind of

656
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: go at each other a little bit. It's great. I mean,

657
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: it really is great that we have to keep mine.

658
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: This is eight thirty on a Friday night and a

659
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: kid show, right, and there's two adults kind of snapping

660
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: at each other a little bit, which you do you

661
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: don't see a whole lot of respectfully. But yes, it

662
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: was absolutely respectfully. It's not like they were going to

663
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: come to blows, but it was like two adults having

664
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: a conflict. Yeah, and it was interesting to watch. That's

665
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: not an answer. There's not an easy answer. I mean,

666
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: and that's I think that is some of the special

667
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: sauce that make that made world. Yeah, you know, yeah,

668
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: like willing to like allow you know, and we'll talk

669
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: about where this episode ends up, but willing to allow

670
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: this tension to not be resolved easily. Just introduced the tension,

671
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: introduced two different adults being right and try and work

672
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: that out. That's the thing. That's an interesting way to

673
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: say it's two different adults being right, because it's not

674
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: two different adults being wrong. It's two different adults being right,

675
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: which is kind of interesting. Yeah, that's cool. So Phoene says, no,

676
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: the f is going to stand. There is going to

677
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: be no makeup test. He says he's heard every single

678
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: goose in his thirty five years of teaching for why

679
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: a student has failed to test. They go back and

680
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 1: forth and it becomes kind of a big thing. They

681
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: go back into the house. This made me laugh out loud.

682
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: Corey calls Pheny a butt, which doesn't make me laugh

683
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: out loud. It's funny, but doesn't make me laugh out loud.

684
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: He Alan gets on him, don't you dare? He is

685
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: an incredible teacher incredible. Teachers are very rare, makes a

686
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: big deal about it. Corey then leaves the room and

687
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: Alan calls him and I laughed out loud. Yeah, this

688
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: was This was Indie's favorite part obviously. But I think that, yeah,

689
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: like seeing that that that is the magic of you know, uh,

690
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: of introducing attention and showing how a parent an adult

691
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: can have complicated feelings right like here here is the

692
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: as opposed to the sort of father knows best or

693
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: the easy answer where it's like one where it's like, no,

694
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna tell Corey one thing, and the second Corey

695
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: leaves the room is gonna repeat exactly what Corey said,

696
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: And it's I think it's brilliant. It is. It's also

697
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: happens a lot with parents and kids. I would imagine,

698
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the kids out of the room

699
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, god, I hate that guy you know

700
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: brought up when he was here, you know, which was

701
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: that that there is a difference. There's two different forms

702
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: of authority. There's a parental authority and there's a teacher authority,

703
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: and and he was only playing one side of that equation,

704
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: and that is just great. I think that that's such

705
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: an essential identity of the show at this point. Yeah,

706
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty special. I like this this fun, this

707
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,479
Speaker 1: fun side of Alan that we get to see. Uh

708
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: So Alan sets the dinner table and he ends up

709
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: having this great conversation with Amy. She one tells him

710
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: that forks go on the other side, and uh again,

711
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: she's just kind of at this point relegated to households there. Yeah,

712
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: we'll see you when we're in the kitchen, Amy, Yeah, exactly.

713
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: You'll give us an apple, you'll tell us how to

714
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: set the dinner table. It would definitely up until this

715
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: point there was there hadn't been much for Betsy to do.

716
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: She was she hadn't she wasn't given the same kind

717
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: of gifts that Steve had been given with his scripts. Well, Bill, Rusty,

718
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: and Ben are at this point the only characters that

719
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: are being delved into at all. Yeah, I mean in

720
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: the entire show, nothing out everybody else. It's like, all right,

721
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: let's see what those three characters will do, and then

722
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: somebody will come in and have a line, and then

723
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: somebody will come in and have a line, and then

724
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: that's it, and it's like, let's get back to these guys.

725
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was it was interesting how they were

726
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: starting to create characters, but it was they represent the

727
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: strongest pitch at this point. Your teacher lives next door, right, right?

728
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: What does that mean? What does it mean when you

729
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: have a little fence between your dad, you know, your

730
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: whole life and your teacher, and and and so they're

731
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: playing that out and I think, but I show hasn't

732
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: moved on from that yet. I mean, I think today,

733
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: if you were to do the same thing today, you

734
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: could easily and maybe it would even be more interesting,

735
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: have exactly the same storyline, except it's Amy that got

736
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: him up to watch the baseball game. So I mean

737
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It was just it was very much

738
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: it's still very male centric, where it's like, why couldn't

739
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: the mom have kept him up too late to do so,

740
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it was like that's

741
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: that's where the change comes from me where it's kind

742
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: of like I see what they were doing. But and

743
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: then it's like she's going to explain to him why

744
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: he's wrong in the kitchen well know, you know where

745
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: the forks go. It's like okay, yeah, she says, you know,

746
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: you can't just change all of your plans so that

747
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: you're able to spend time with Corey. So you can't

748
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: basically mess up Corey's life because that's what the timing

749
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: that works out best for your schedule, you know, watching

750
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: the late night game worked best for for Alan, and

751
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: so he got Corey up so that it fit into

752
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: his day to day life, and that's then what ultimately

753
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: ended up ruining Corey's school life. So Lenny comes back

754
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: into the Matthews house while Amy and Allen are kissing,

755
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: and he acts like it's a real catastrophees giving a

756
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: Amy mouth to mouth resuscitation. Uh. Lenny says there's a

757
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: problem at the store again, and Alan says there is

758
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: an assistant manager to assist the manager, not just to

759
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: come and tell the manager every time there is a problem.

760
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: Alan tries to go out and play ball with Corey,

761
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: but Lenny says, they put the lighter fluid next to

762
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: the rotissar each a can, and that lets Allan know

763
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: that there may be a fire at the store. This

764
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: is also to me, I remember this joke too. I

765
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: remember this joke. I don't know why. Is it a

766
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: good joke or is it just that it's so because

767
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: I might think it's clever by great joke, left stuff

768
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: so funny. I think that is a phenomenal joke. I

769
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: think I definitely heard it, and I I remembered it.

770
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: But I also was like, does this work or do

771
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: I just think it's funny because I remember it. No,

772
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: I think I think it works great. I really I

773
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: think it's a very clever joke. We should do a

774
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: poll online. Okay, let's do that. By the way, was

775
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: written by Michael Jacobs, April Kelly, and Jeff Minnell. Whose

776
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: joke do you think that was? If you had to guess,

777
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the answer. I was saying,

778
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: that's a Michael joke. I think it's the most Michael

779
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: joke I think it. I think it's a Michael joke.

780
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: I think that is a very clever joke. How much

781
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: of the store is left stuff. It's very funny. I

782
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: wrote it down. I loved it, and I remembered it.

783
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: Before it happened, I turned to my wife and I said, oh,

784
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: there's a great joke coming up. And I know I

785
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: ruined it for by saying there's a great joke, but

786
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: I remember the fact that I even love this joke.

787
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: We really should have asked Bill and Bonnie what their

788
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: memories of April were. Oh jeez, we forgot. We missed

789
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk about our our April Kelly, our

790
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: long lost April kill, our long lost April Kelly. Alright,

791
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: so we get that great joke how much of the

792
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: stories left stuff? And then Alan knows he has to go,

793
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: he has to go to the store. We move into

794
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: the living room and Alan gets the opportunity to tell

795
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: Corey that he has had a great talk with Amy.

796
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: He realizes that he was wrong and that Mr Feenie

797
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: was right, and he says he would love to be

798
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: able to stay home and hang out with Corey all

799
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: the time, but that's just not possible because apparently the

800
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: family has gotten used to eating, used to eating, and

801
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: that Feenie is right. So then we moved back into

802
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: the backyard and Corey is playing with his tennis ball

803
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: and it goes over the fence into the backyard. Truly,

804
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 1: the worst fake right tennis ball hit in the history

805
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: of tennis ball. Not only that, but the way David

806
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: Trainer was very clever with the way he shot this.

807
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: Because if you actually like the they did it. They

808
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: did a really good job of making you're just focused

809
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: on the alan, the Matthews family side of the yard.

810
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: You see the ball go over, and then you only

811
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: see one little corner of Phoenie's backyard and then go

812
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: back over to just seeing the Matthew's backyard and Corey

813
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: hop over. And if you then when you pull back

814
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: the camera and we see where Bill is, it would

815
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: have been impossible for Corey to have not seen him

816
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: the entire time foot away. He's sitting in a robe.

817
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: It's pretty well lit, and they tried to make it

818
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: look dark. But if you really do have to think about, like, wait,

819
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: how would you have not seen him? You probably, but

820
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: the way David Trainer shot it, you do kind of

821
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: buy that he didn't see him until he hops over.

822
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: But it's impossible. Peenie's sitting there. He's set up to

823
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: as Bill would say, shays longs next to each other

824
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: with a full tray like he's got he's got the

825
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: whole thing laid out in the train next to him,

826
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: and it just ben everybody who's ever in their life

827
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: hit a tennis ball in a racket. You'll hold the

828
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: racket straight up and you hit the tennis ball up

829
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: in the air. The all of a sudden, just turning

830
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 1: the sideways so it goes into the other yards, like oh, okay,

831
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: that's I know, I know, we got to get there,

832
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: but yikes. And then it was and it was like, oh,

833
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: and look who's six inches away. He's right there behind me,

834
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: pheny Because I mean, this is the degree of realism

835
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: with sitcoms, right, It's just this is why the Forum

836
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: I don't think it is as popular anymore. It's because

837
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: we've come to it, you know, we don't we don't

838
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: want our sitcoms to be as cartoony or as unrealistic.

839
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: We like the idea of realism. Well that's what I mean.

840
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: That's the thing. So I'm literally, as as we speak,

841
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm watching UM, which I knew I should have

842
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: watched a while back. Is Wanda Vision UM, which is

843
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: you know the Marvel show about about Wanda and and Vision.

844
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: You know, the whole thing is about every episode is

845
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: a different era sitcom. So it starts in a fifty sitcom,

846
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: the next episode goes to sixty sitcom, then it's a

847
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: seventy sitcom, and they're hitting every trope along the way,

848
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: and so it's funny. Did my next episode is the

849
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: nineties sitcom? And I'm waiting to see exactly, but we

850
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: were just in the eighties episode and it's like it

851
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: literally starts with like the family Ties. It's it's you

852
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: see Wanda and Vision together and they're painting their picture

853
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: like the opening title sequence, and so they're hitting every

854
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: trope and and it is you do have those kind

855
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: of things. But part of me thinks that's why it

856
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: doesn't work anymore. Part of me thinks that's what people

857
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: want to see again. Is that kind of let me

858
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: just escape for twenty two minutes? And I know a

859
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: lot of it is cheesy, and it's gonna be moments

860
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,959
Speaker 1: like this where it's like Mr Feeney, I didn't see

861
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: you there three inches away, But people want to experience

862
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: that again, so we'll see. But yeah, it was that

863
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, and he's out there and it's

864
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: perfectly set up for another person to sit down next

865
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: to him, even though he lives alone. You know, it's

866
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: like what, okay, why why would you brought two chairs out?

867
00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: You got the two chairs and all that. It's very interesting. Yeah, Um,

868
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: so he goes over the fence and he's Mr Finie's there.

869
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: He's having a drink. He invites Corey to sit down,

870
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: uh and have a drink with him. And this little

871
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: Ben mischievous pouring the drink in the glass is very

872
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: like classic I remember Ben, you know, just um little

873
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: devil in his eyes having fun pouring that. And he

874
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: played it perfectly to the whole kind of look of

875
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: like I can't believe is he can really let me

876
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: do this? Yeah, really let me do this. I thought

877
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: it was the pilot with him dancing and trying to

878
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: get out of the exactly and I loved some moments

879
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: that were pretty darn good. I loved it. M Bill's

880
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: Bill's look of like, M, you want a big drink?

881
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: Like Bill like sees him doing it and acknowledge like

882
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: just kind of gives this little lad like an inside

883
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: chuckle of oh, you're gonna pour the whole thing in there. Huh.

884
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: It's very cute. Um. And then he reveals that it's

885
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 1: apple juice and that Mr Finie only had one glass

886
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: of claret with dinner, and isn't it like you it's

887
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: like a Thanksgiving something like, yeah, claret a Thanksgiving um.

888
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: And then this scene is just again the Bill puts

889
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: on a clinic, But how much how much different does

890
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: the scene play to you now? Knowing what we know,

891
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: just talking to Bill and Bonnie about how Bonnie said, No, Bill,

892
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: you could tell when I she said, when I was

893
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: looking at it, I could tell that Bill was essentially

894
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: talking to himself as a young actor. That to me

895
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: kind of changed the whole scene again. I mean, the

896
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: scene was amazing, but knowing that moment where it is,

897
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: it's like, oh wow, he was a child actor and

898
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: now he's it's that whole It was amazing to me.

899
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: That gave me chills when I heard that. Yeah, he

900
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: so Bill. Mr Feeney tells the story that there was

901
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: a war going on in Europe when he was a

902
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: child and he couldn't have the things he wanted buttered

903
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: toast and sneakers, and his mom would tell him that

904
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: he couldn't have those things because there was a war

905
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: going on in Europe, and so all he wanted was

906
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: for the war to end so that he could have

907
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: the things that he wanted, and he prayed every night

908
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: for the war to end. And then he heard at

909
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 1: school that Truman that night was going on the radio

910
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: to announce the end of the war, and he just

911
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: so badly wanted to stay up and listen to the

912
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: president basically give him the answer to his prayers. And

913
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: his dad told him that, no, tomorrow is a school day.

914
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: I don't want you up with me. And he said

915
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: he really what it was about. Corey assumes, well, that

916
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: means your dad really knew the value of education, and

917
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: Phoenie says, no, he just didn't want me hanging out

918
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: with him and his drinking buddies. The idea that they

919
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: added the word drinking to it change the entire kind

920
00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: of history of like you, you instantly got Mr Feenie's

921
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: dad backstory. All you need established you already have. It's

922
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: also the counterpoint to or it's the second part of

923
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: only having one glass of exact. You know that you've

924
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: established that he is a tempered drinker, barely ever drinks

925
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: here he is, he's pricked out a sniff ter of

926
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: apple juice. That's his nighttime treat. And then you get

927
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: the payoff, which is that his dad was clearly drinking

928
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: too much with his buddies and not spending time with him.

929
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: That is, it's wonderful and I never remembered that. I

930
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: do remember the speech. I've remembered. They'll giving like I

931
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: remembered lines from this um, like you know, the war

932
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: in Europe because I remember being slightly confused by thinking

933
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: he was from Europe because I thought Bill was British

934
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: were talking about. But um, yeah, I remember this monologue.

935
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: I remember, and it's it's really touching. It's really you know,

936
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: it's touching in all the backstory with Poenie and getting

937
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: a sense of his humanity. It's also Phoenie admitting he's wrong,

938
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: you know, and we haven't had much of that on

939
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: this show, like even you know this is this is

940
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: one of the few moments where all of that sort

941
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: of like monology phoenism is actually in service of admitting that,

942
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: you know, Corey's dad was right. Um, now is that

943
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: what he's now? Here's my question and again just to

944
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: is that what he's doing? I'm asking because it's like,

945
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: did he admit that he's wrong or does he know

946
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: what he's saying? He wished he didn't have to do

947
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: what he did to Corey, but he did have to

948
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: do what he did. Yes, but he's also let him

949
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: take the test. No, but he's also admitting that's what's

950
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: so great about what you know, what we were saying earlier.

951
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: They're both the adult both both adult athority figures, are

952
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: are both right, and they're also both both wrong. You know,

953
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 1: like they can both all four things can be true.

954
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 1: You know, it's up to Corey to sort of navigate

955
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: these relationships and to recognize that, yes, he can't take

956
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: the test again, but also you know, he dad should

957
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: him up. Yeah he should. He should have a relationship

958
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: with his dad, because Mr Feeney also regrets and having

959
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: a relationship with his dad. And you know, his dad's

960
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: gonna tell him Mr Fini was right. Mr Fini's gonna

961
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: tell him his dad was right. Then they're both going

962
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: to say they're both wrong. You know, like this is

963
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: a really it's nice, it's nuances complicated, it's it's ambiguous,

964
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: it's it's the world is the world. And you know,

965
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: you got it's the equivalent again of adding the word drinking.

966
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: You could have gotten exactly the same thing from that

967
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: speech if he said my dad didn't want me up

968
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: with him and his buddies, But by adding the word drinking,

969
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: you had a whole another layer thrown onto the thing,

970
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: and like writer said, it throws you right back to

971
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: just a few minutes before where you find out he's

972
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: a very tempered and controlled drinker. Um. And you know,

973
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: I do think that that's actually the he's admitted. He's

974
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: saying that he was wrong Um to have acted as

975
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: though Alan should not have woken him up his dad.

976
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: You can, you can. He's basically saying, your dad did

977
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: the right thing waking you up, and you did the

978
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: right thing watching the game. But I also still did

979
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: the right thing by failing you. I shouldn't still give

980
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: you another opportunity to do it. Sometimes times it's even

981
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: if you know the outcome is going to be an

982
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: f it's still the right thing to do. It's worth

983
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: it for exactly, It's worth it for the relationship and

984
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: for that bonding. You're only going to get that one thing.

985
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: So it is. It's it's really nuanced parenting. And my dad,

986
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: my dad did that to me. There would be once

987
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: or twice a year for you know, probably from the

988
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: time I was in the third grade to the time

989
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: I was in the seventh eighth grade, my dad would

990
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: pull me out of school. We would drive to New

991
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: York City and go see a baseball game. I mean

992
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: that was it was like we would go to see

993
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: the Mets, we would go to see the Yankees, we'd

994
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: go sometimes to Boston and see the Socks. But it

995
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: was like I'd miss a day of school and he's like, no,

996
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna pick you up and we're just gonna

997
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: go see a baseball game. And that I mean I remember,

998
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: And he's right, I remember that more than I remember

999
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: whatever the hell I was going to learn in the

1000
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: fourth grade that day. You know, it was, you know,

1001
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: stuff like that is hugely important. So that's I mean, yeah,

1002
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: that's you do remember that stuff. So on this front,

1003
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: should we uh play a little too much shirts to

1004
00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: much time? Interesting? One becau it is for whatever reason,

1005
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: and he wanted to talk about acting, uh, and so

1006
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: our pregame discussion ended up being more about acting. And

1007
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: just so you know, he's got dinosaurs on the brand

1008
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: right now because of the Jurassic Jurassic World has brought

1009
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: dinosaurs back into our lives big time. But then, yeah,

1010
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: this ended up being at the post the post conversation.

1011
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: I kept trying to bring him back to what the

1012
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: episode was actually about, and yeah, you'll you'll see. Do

1013
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: you think being an actor is cool? Yeah? What do

1014
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: you think it's like to be an actor? I don't know.

1015
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: Can it hard? Maybe you'll have to cute doing the

1016
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: same thing over and over again. Do you think you'd

1017
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: be a good actor? Oh? Do you think there's anything

1018
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: different about you as far as the way you play

1019
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: make believe? Or two voices? Really? Can we hear you're

1020
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: a t rex? Roar? Really? Yeah? Let's hear it and

1021
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: go all right now, let's hear a raptor? Oh? Please

1022
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: do the teenage girl? Where did you come up with this?

1023
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: He know it? Just gave up with it. Mom, he's

1024
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: making me. Oh my god's scarlet a Bardes texting, May

1025
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: let's watch episode one oh three? Alright, any thoughts, ind

1026
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: it's crazy. There's a lot going on. The Corey guy

1027
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: didn't talk to the Sean dude, which is you, But

1028
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: we came from this a mustache guy phoene and then

1029
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: there were a lot of jackets. He stays out late

1030
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: with his dad, watched the baseball game and fails the

1031
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: mass test. So what's the difference between Mr Feeney and

1032
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: Corey's dad? Wait? What Corey's dad's name? Alan Matthews probably

1033
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: an old man by now because he was already old,

1034
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: older than you. He's the exact same age I am

1035
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: right now. Oh so he's now probably like eighty sixty.

1036
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: Mrs a Butt. He does say that, But then what

1037
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: does Mr Finney end up telling Corey? Does he say,

1038
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: your dad shouldn't have let you stay up that l Yeah?

1039
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: Like how why now it is nine o'clock? So I

1040
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,479
Speaker 1: should be putting you to bed, is what you're saying.

1041
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: See what time is? It is six, but we really

1042
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: should be going to bed. Maybe maybe that's the lesson

1043
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: we should take from this episode, is that it's time

1044
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: for you to go to bed. Why it's actually three hours?

1045
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: So it's actually right now like six, no, seven, let's

1046
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: go to bed. We ended up exactly in the situation.

1047
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: He could not figure out math because he was too tired.

1048
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,479
Speaker 1: Time wasn't I mean what time? What was the times?

1049
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: That was at three hours? Or Yeah? We had changed

1050
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: from l A to New York, so we adjusted three hours.

1051
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: He goes to bed, that's at seven thirty or eight.

1052
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: But we stayed up to watch Boy Met the World

1053
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: that night, So that's funny. First of all, he does

1054
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: as a voice over actor. He does the voices pretty well. Yeah, yeah,

1055
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: that is incredible. He's going to end up like a

1056
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: like a Fred Tatish or one of the one of

1057
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: these men and women that Frank Welker who. It's like,

1058
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: every time you hear a dog or a cat or

1059
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: any kind of sound, it's actually somebody doing that. It's

1060
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: a guy. It's a guy doing that. So he just

1061
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: obsesses over it, you know. And this is what I

1062
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: was trying to say to him about acting. It's like,

1063
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, he's just he's just got that makeup belief

1064
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: thing where he goes into it and he cares about

1065
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: the quality of the sound and and then he just

1066
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: improvs like that teenage girl thing. Then I just don't

1067
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: know he doesn't. So it's pretty funny. But I love

1068
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: that he's acting. Asking me if I think I would

1069
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: be an actor ever watching the show on which I

1070
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: was an actor, what do you think I did? How

1071
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: do you think you'd be as an actor? Dad? If

1072
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: you were an actor? Thank you, Indy, Yes, thank you.

1073
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: He noticed too much jackets too much, jackets as much,

1074
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: robes too much. So at the end of this scene,

1075
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 1: Mr Feenie says that if he did have a son,

1076
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: and the opportunity presented itself to keep his son up late,

1077
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: he would. And I think it's very sweet that he

1078
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: he says, I did well up, fully welled up. Tears

1079
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: did not fall yet, but you will, but I well,

1080
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: but you will. Did we ever find out and again,

1081
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: we'll get into this as we go further in the series,

1082
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 1: did we ever find out why Mr Feenie never had kids?

1083
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't remember that either, if that

1084
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: was actually ever really addressed, if why he never had children? Know?

1085
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 1: What also occurred to me during this episode is did

1086
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: Eric have Mr Feenie? Do we ever stablished that on

1087
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: the show? Yes? I think we do. I think we

1088
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: do actually established that later in the days that I

1089
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: was waiting for there to be a reference to, like

1090
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: I remember your old it's Mr Peenie, It's Mr Peenie

1091
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: pronunciations Peenie and we uh, you know it's because Eric

1092
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: didn't exist at this point. It was walking in, say

1093
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: a line, walk I mean, Sean was kind of the same.

1094
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: You walk in, you say a line, you walk out,

1095
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: and the show goes on the butt of a plumber joke.

1096
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: That's what That's what exactly are you or for me,

1097
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, Lenny, of course I know you

1098
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: and then you walk out and then you know that's it. Um,

1099
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: So they just hadn't established us at all yet. So

1100
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: it's just we're getting there slowly as characters. Slowly but slowly,

1101
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: slowly but slowly. Okay. So then we are back in

1102
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: Eric and Corey's room. Corey asks Amy what's going on

1103
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: with Alan? Thinking Peenie is right, Peenie thinking Alan is right?

1104
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: And um. Then Allen comes in and Corey says, well,

1105
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: what's you know? Why are you saying goodnight to me?

1106
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: What's going to happen if something exciting happens on the

1107
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: TV tonight? And Alan says that no matter what, he

1108
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: will find out in the morning because his dad will

1109
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: always be there in the morning to tell him what

1110
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: went on the night before. Very sweet, and then we

1111
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: get the moment where Corey references that Alan is no

1112
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: longer grounded and he says, yeah, he's not coming back tonight. Yeah,

1113
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: and I was creeped out. Yeah, it's a little I

1114
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: was too. I've got to be totally honest with you.

1115
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: The twelve year old kid lying in bed going he's

1116
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: not coming back to my dad's getting something tonight. It

1117
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 1: was a little weird to me, kind of weirded me out. Yeah,

1118
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out, by the way, also how he

1119
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: put it together all of a sudden, like he early

1120
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: in the episode he was he had no idea, didn't

1121
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: know what it meant, And now I guess he does.

1122
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: And I kept trying to think, is there an alternative

1123
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: interpretation of this line that I'm missing and I'm going

1124
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: to a place It's not? No. I think you're absolutely right.

1125
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: I also think kind of the parents in front of

1126
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: the kid, going am I still grounded? Like let's go jug?

1127
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: It was a little like wow, this yere okay? Could

1128
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: you do that in the hallway? Maybe? Like do we

1129
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: do need to do that right in front of the

1130
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: twelve year old kids? It's so funny. I wonder how

1131
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,479
Speaker 1: much we're gonna run up against this with this show,

1132
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: you know, like uh, and I don't. I don't know

1133
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: how much of it is the times changing, is us

1134
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: getting older? But I definitely think that in some ways,

1135
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: I think it has to go back. It goes back

1136
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: to the idea that that network television was a bigger

1137
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: tent you know, like it had to appeal to grown

1138
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: ups and kids at the same time, and having a

1139
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: slightly risk a but still pretty buried joke was a

1140
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: sweet spot that like a network television kids show. Now,

1141
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: a kids show would never make any references to this

1142
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: on Disney Channel or Nickelodeon, because that's where those kids

1143
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: shows have gone to exist. They don't they don't have

1144
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: to appeal to adults in the same way. Um, well,

1145
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: what Bill said to look what Bill, What Bill and

1146
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: Bonnie talked about last time was that the and I

1147
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: think we we had this on our show as well,

1148
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: where the writers and producers of St. Elsewhere would always

1149
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: try to quote slide one in or slip one in

1150
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: where he talked about the two lips on the organ

1151
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: where it's that. I think there were times where my

1152
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: Jacob's and the writers would try to do that as well,

1153
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: like let's see what we can get away with, let's

1154
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: see how far we can go, let's say. And I

1155
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: think that's a pretty common thing for writers and producers

1156
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: to do. I mean, I'm way, we've already talked about

1157
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: this off Mike, and it's not going to happen probably

1158
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: until next season. Really with this show. But you know,

1159
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm incredibly weird at out by how much

1160
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: making out there was ton and like that makes me

1161
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: way more uncomfortable than like the joke that the parents

1162
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: are possibly making love in another room. I'm more weighted

1163
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: out by the fact that we're going to have to

1164
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: watch episodes where thirteen fourteen year old writers making out

1165
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: with thirteen fourteen year old girls for like the entire episodes. Like,

1166
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: that's weird to me, and you don't see that on

1167
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: television anymore. So I do think the culture has changed,

1168
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: right or I don't know, maybe it's still a thing

1169
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: that happens. But it was definitely like the idea that

1170
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: we would kiss so much on this show and the

1171
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: audiences would do the whoa, Like that was like a

1172
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: part of our culture, and you know, watching us with

1173
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: my son is going to be a little weird. Yeah,

1174
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a little uncomfortable. We both went through that.

1175
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: There was like, let's give Sean and Eric just girls

1176
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: every week. It was like okay, and there was it

1177
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: was it was every week for a while, and it

1178
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: was really kind of weird. Yeah, I did, that's going

1179
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: to be going to be jarring. Well, next episode we

1180
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: have episode number one oh four, Corey's Alternative Friends. It's important,

1181
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: is that? An important episode in the show. Very special

1182
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: guest pops up the reveal of Tapango Lawrence. I don't

1183
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,959
Speaker 1: think the character is gonna last. I'm gonna be honest,

1184
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: I think I don't see a future for this girl.

1185
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna have any any kind of

1186
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: effect on the show at all. Frankly, we also have

1187
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: a very special guest joining us that week for David Trainer,

1188
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: the director of Legendary Director. Legendary director who not only

1189
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: directed a Corey's Alternative Friends and the episode we just

1190
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: recap today, but every single episode other than the pilot

1191
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: in season one and season two. He came back to

1192
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: direct another episode in like season six, maybe season seven.

1193
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: So he did a total of forty five five episodes

1194
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: of Boy Meets World and was somehow taller when he

1195
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: came back six seven. How tall that man is? So anyway,

1196
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: that is next week, episode number one of four Quarries

1197
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: Alternative Friends originally aired October three, and uh yeah, I

1198
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: had a really great time with you guys. Make sure

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01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: to follow us on Instagram at Pod meets World show,

1200
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: and you can email us your thoughts, your opinions, you

1201
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: can scream at us, tell us what you want to

1202
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: hear more of uh tell us your thoughts about Bill

1203
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: and Bonnie too. And and I think this is a

1204
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: good time. If you guys have any stories about what

1205
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: Mr Feenie has meant to you, or a Phoenie character

1206
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: in your life, a teacher that has impacted you, or

1207
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: if you think you have now become that teacher in

1208
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: somebody else's life, please send us your stories about what

1209
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: Mr Feenie means to you or the Phoenie character in

1210
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 1: your life, and you can email us at Pod Meets

1211
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: World Show at gmail dot com. Also, we got shirts

1212
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: baby March March March March. We've got too much shirts

1213
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,919
Speaker 1: and we've got hair and you can get it over

1214
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: at pod Meats World Show dot com. Oh, and we

1215
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: want to do right er good idea? What did you did?

1216
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: You think stuff is a funny joke? Oh? Yeah, well,

1217
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: we'll do that on the Instagram. I think is a

1218
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: funny joke. I think that's a great idea. How much

1219
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: of the story is left stuff? Stuff? Is that funny?

1220
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a poll on Instagram and I just

1221
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: want more. I want to say march because it's a

1222
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: great word to say. It's such a great word. Also,

1223
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: we're putting out feelers. If you were an extra on

1224
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: the season, the first season of Boy Meats World, and

1225
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: you stuck around through the entire first season, let's reach

1226
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: out to us. We'd want to talk to you. We

1227
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: didn't want to hear from you because we had we

1228
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: had a stable of extras that were in the classroom,

1229
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: the classroom extras, and we unfortunately we did not stay

1230
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: in touch. But yeah, through the years, I would say,

1231
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: up until gosh, if I swear, up until like the

1232
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: fourth season, we had a few recurring extras. Did anybody

1233
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: go um like follow you through school? Meaning like, did

1234
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: you think anybody started at the very beginning and all

1235
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: went through the college years as well? Was there anybody

1236
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: that was the whole time college years? But definitely we

1237
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: had we had some recurring um extras that, like I remember,

1238
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: we would hang out with all the time. Now granted

1239
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: they would only come in on Cape nights, right like,

1240
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: so it would only be one night a week. I

1241
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: remember Dunston, wasn't that his name Dustin? Dustin was one

1242
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: so Dustin. If you're if you're listening, reach out, reach

1243
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: out to us Pod Meats World Show at gmail dot com,

1244
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: or you can get to us through the Instagram as well. Um,

1245
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: this was really fun. This was fun. You know what else?

1246
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: I just realized this was the first episode where um,

1247
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: we see Corey wearing Jordan's eights. This was kind of

1248
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: the start of corries up. What are Jordan's eight Jordans?

1249
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't no idea that. I was like, what listen

1250
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: for the first especially the first two seasons. The shoes

1251
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: it's become now especially it's become like boy Meats World

1252
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: as a show. They go back to it to see

1253
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: the shoes that definitely Ben is wearing and that sometimes

1254
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: that right Or is wearing. So are Jordan's eights special

1255
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: T shoes? No, they're just cool. They're Jordan's. They're just

1256
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: Jordan's tennis shoes. But they're you I'm not sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly how many times you warm because

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Speaker 1: I think they were expensive too, so they may it

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Speaker 1: may have been one of those things where Sean wasn't

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Speaker 1: wearing them very often, but because of the plumber thing.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it gets you guys, are you got

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Speaker 1: Your pictures have been posted on like shirt Instagram, I'm

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Speaker 1: not shut shoes Instagram, like you know, sneaker Instagram. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty cool, Graham. There you go Instagram. Remember we're changing.

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Speaker 1: The name is now instead Mr Peenie Instagram, loves in Stagram.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, this has been a real joy. Looking

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Speaker 1: forward to seeing you guys next week. We love you all,

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Speaker 1: pod dismissed. Pod Meats World is an I heart podcast

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Speaker 1: produced and hosted by Daniel Fishel Wilfordell and right Er Strong.

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Speaker 1: Executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman. Executive in charge

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Speaker 1: of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor Tara sup Box

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Speaker 1: producer Lorraine Vurez, Engineering Boy meets World super fan Eastern Allen.

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