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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire.

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Speaker 2: What is up, Straight Fire Fan, It's me Jason McIntire,

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Speaker 2: Straight Boyer for Monday, March the ninth. Quick programming note

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Speaker 2: no heard today. We are off for World Baseball Classics,

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Speaker 2: so we get a short week, which basically just means

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Speaker 2: more time to grind away on March madness. Oh, I

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Speaker 2: love it so much. Championship week is always fun. A

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Speaker 2: lot of gambling opportunities. We'll have some on the pod,

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Speaker 2: more on that site that I created, and whatever leftovers

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Speaker 2: are all on Instagram. It was a good weekend, really

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Speaker 2: strong weekend. Actually got in a little workout, got some

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Speaker 2: shots up. It's a big playoff basketball week for your boy.

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Speaker 2: Semi finals two days this week in two different leagues.

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Speaker 2: Nervous we could lose both, we could. You just never

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Speaker 2: know who's gonna show up. Guys get called to work dinners.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, you don't really care. But what you do

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Speaker 2: care about is today's guest Fran for Schilla, a real

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Speaker 2: legend in the industry, who's a coach, he's an announcer

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Speaker 2: and just knows college basketball as well as anyone out there.

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Speaker 2: So I think you're gonna like his takes on March Madness,

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Speaker 2: a couple of Sleepers, cam Boozer comparisons. It's all deadly,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be great. Before we dive into fran for Schilla,

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Speaker 2: I figure I will go a couple of minutes on

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Speaker 2: I guess the only big story that I saw on

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Speaker 2: Sunday in sports besides the Trent McDuffie huge contract that

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Speaker 2: the Rams gave him. I don't know. I can't get

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Speaker 2: over this Lakers win over the Knicks. So one could argue, hey, Jay,

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Speaker 2: come on nixt they were, they were clearly not locked in.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how that's the case. But the Knicks

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Speaker 2: basically get beat wire to wire by the Lakers. Is

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Speaker 2: not really that close. The Knicks were in Denver Friday, pummeled,

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Speaker 2: and I mean pummeled the Nuggets, who were on a

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Speaker 2: back to back against the Lakers. They beat them one

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Speaker 2: forty two to one oh three. Yes, Jokic played, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Jamal Murray played the Lakers. Sorry, the Knicks beat the

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Speaker 2: Nuggets in Denver by thirty nine unbelievable performance. But again,

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Speaker 2: the Nuggets were gassed from the night before against the Lakers. Right,

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Speaker 2: so then the Knicks come I guess, you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: they get the La flu or the La fever or

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Speaker 2: whatever it is. Friday night. I'm sure after Denver they

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Speaker 2: wanted to quickly touch down in La and they just

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Speaker 2: did not look good at all. But here's the interesting thing,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not making a thing. I'm not not doing

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Speaker 2: making it a thing. Lebron ruled out with I think

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Speaker 2: they were calling it foot arthritis or something. And as

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Speaker 2: soon as you see that, you're like, oh, Lakers are

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Speaker 2: freaking cooked. And they just came out and Luca and

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Speaker 2: Reeves led the way. Luca with thirty five basically was unguardable,

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Speaker 2: Austin Reeves twenty five, Luke Canard twelve Lakers shot a

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Speaker 2: great hit, fifteen threes, Nicks could not throw it in

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Speaker 2: the ocean, fell behind, and they just never saw that fight.

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Speaker 2: This is despite Marcus Smart shooting one of ten zero

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Speaker 2: five from three Lakers, not getting much from the Rava

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Speaker 2: or Jackson Hayes, who was over three. It was basically

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Speaker 2: the Luca and Reeves show, and the Lakers actually played defense.

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Speaker 2: Now what's interesting is they started Ruey for Lebron and

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Speaker 2: you're like, oh, well, they know they have a short

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Speaker 2: bench Maxi kleeber back ten minutes, a lot of cardio.

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Speaker 2: One steal and that's it. But a good rebound from

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Speaker 2: the Lakers after that, tough, tough Nuggets lost again. You

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Speaker 2: don't want to overreact to any one game, but like that,

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Speaker 2: teeth kicking in by the by the Knicks is bad.

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Speaker 2: And the way Jason Tatum has looked in I guess

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Speaker 2: we'll call it two games. He was much better against

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Speaker 2: the Calves than he was in the first one, where

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Speaker 2: he missed a bunch of shots. But he's still scored

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Speaker 2: and the team's all excited. Celtics are looking good, and

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Speaker 2: I wonder if the Knicks are a little shaken having

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Speaker 2: seen the Tatum return. I mean, they look good. The

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Speaker 2: Caves are an afterthought now they're at the four spot.

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Speaker 2: But in the West, it's interesting. The Lakers tied now

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Speaker 2: tied with the Nuggets. They had a back to back

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Speaker 2: After the Nuggets game, they whooped the Pacers, and then

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Speaker 2: this win over the next ties them with the Nuggets.

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Speaker 2: They are one game back of the Rockets and Timberwolves.

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Speaker 2: I'm recording this intro Sunday evening and the Rockets are

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Speaker 2: currently getting smacked around by the Spurs man. The spread

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Speaker 2: Spurs team is nasty. But listen, I know we want

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Speaker 2: to overreact every Lakers lost, Folks, it ain't over yet.

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Speaker 2: It's not there's a whorld where they get up to

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Speaker 2: that three seed. I mean, I'm not saying he's definitely

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Speaker 2: gonna happen, but I'm ruling nothing out. Obviously you need

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Speaker 2: Luca locked in and no more goofy technicals. But what

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Speaker 2: he's playing like he played yesterday, I don't see why

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Speaker 2: the Lakers can't can't make a run at that three seed.

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Speaker 2: So coming up for the thirty nine and twenty five Lakers,

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Speaker 2: it's funny the way you talk about him. You think

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Speaker 2: this team was like tanking huge week Tuesday home against

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Speaker 2: the Timberwolves. That is a big one. They're chasing Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: They need that, then Chicago, then Denver, and then a

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Speaker 2: massive road trip Houston, Houston, Miami, Orlando, Detroit, Indy. I honestly,

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Speaker 2: that Minnesota game will probably set the tone for everything.

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Speaker 2: The Minnesota and the Denver game. So Minnesota National TV

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday, Denver National TV on Saturday, at Houston, Monday

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Speaker 2: game on Peacock, and then on Wednesday in ESPN game

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Speaker 2: on Houston. So you're gonna get a big, healthy dose

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Speaker 2: of the Lakers here in the next week. All right,

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Speaker 2: without further ado, let's get to our guest college basketball analyst, Franfriscilla.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

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Speaker 1: listen live. Jason likes to think he knows everything when

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Speaker 1: it comes to sports.

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Speaker 2: I know what sports fans want, but for.

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Speaker 1: Everything he doesn't, he knows the guy who does.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 3: guy who knows another guy.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome back to straight Fire, one of

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Speaker 2: the great voices in college basketball. He's been all over

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Speaker 2: the Big Twelve, which some could argue is pushing the

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Speaker 2: Big Ten for best conference in the country. Fran for Scilla,

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Speaker 2: college basketball legend. Frand, how are you man?

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Speaker 3: I'm outstanding. I would say the top of the Big

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Speaker 3: Twelve is the best conference in basketball. Last year, the SEC, Jason,

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Speaker 3: no Richie Saunders. Yeah, and so you know you could

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Speaker 3: talk about, well, what happened to BYU, what happened to

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Speaker 3: a first round pick BYU lost him and that that

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Speaker 3: So yeah, but it's been a.

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Speaker 2: Get to de Bonsa in a minute. Can he pull

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Speaker 2: off a Danny Manning type run Danny and the Miracles.

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Speaker 1: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: They had a good flourish to end this season. I

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Speaker 2: want to start big picture, Fran. Yeah, So the tournament

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Speaker 2: sixty eight teams. Weirdly, there's been a lot of expansion talk.

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Speaker 2: We know college football is more everything, right, they want

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Speaker 2: tournament from sixty eight to I don't know ninety six what.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what numbers they're talking about.

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Speaker 3: I definitely don't want ninety six. I think ninety six

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Speaker 3: would be ridiculous, it really would, you know, I think

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Speaker 3: sixty eight really good. Right now, I've said seventy two.

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe maybe you add four more games in

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Speaker 3: Dayton something like that play in Then the other argument is,

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Speaker 3: why should the automatic conference champions, even at the mid

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Speaker 3: drek in Dayton? You know it's.

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Speaker 2: Auburn young Pearls Auburn team. Maybe I know they're on

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Speaker 2: the bubble, but yeah, no, no, that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I know they played a tough schedule, but I would

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Speaker 3: we're kind of If you told me seventy two and

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Speaker 3: that would be it, I'd be fine with it. But

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Speaker 3: there's no question that there's a lot of mediocrity from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Auburn last year was amazing. My guy Pettiford

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Speaker 2: won him as my NBA point guard. Frand I know

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Speaker 2: we're talking about Auburn. We don't even need to waste

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I saw like the best game he's

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Speaker 3: He dropped like twenty one on a great Houston team

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Speaker 3: He had some other good, really good games Jason after that,

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Speaker 3: I just don't like his game anymore, you know, And

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Speaker 3: know he's had some good games down on a stretch,

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Speaker 3: but as far as NBA now, I don't hear a

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Speaker 3: go back to Auburn or maybe he'll be unhappy with Auburn,

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Speaker 3: like a lot of kids are at different schools and

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Speaker 3: But I was kind of disappointed, and I thought he'd

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's get to what teams that actually matter.

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Speaker 2: So friend, I see it as there's a clear top

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Speaker 2: four in whatever order you want, Arizona, Florida, Duke, Michigan,

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Speaker 2: and then there's another good, really good too in Illinois, Houston,

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Speaker 2: there's a pretty clear top four?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think so. I love those teams on

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Speaker 3: a given In a given week during the season, I've

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Speaker 3: week I go Arizona is the best team, and really

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Speaker 2: Has it been that long while? Yeah, I mean that

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Speaker 2: I mean, wait, let me go back to Illinois for

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Speaker 2: a sec. Striyakovic, the son of Pegia is listen. I

427
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Speaker 2: know you hear a lot of stuff. You can't say everything.

428
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Speaker 2: So I like this kid's game when I saw him

429
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Speaker 2: at CAOL last year. Right, So he starts to Stanford,

430
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Speaker 2: then goes to cal then goes to Illinois, and he

431
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Speaker 2: came into the season as like the guy on Illinois,

432
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Speaker 2: and then something's going on. Late in the season. He

433
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Speaker 2: did not play in two games, and then the Michigan

434
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 2: game was alarming. He barely played and he didn't score,

435
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Speaker 2: and I was like, what is he? Is he in

436
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Speaker 2: his own head? Is he not happy that he's no

437
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Speaker 2: longer the guy? Have you heard anything on Striyakovic?

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Speaker 3: And no, No, I mean, you know, the biggest thing there.

439
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 3: First of all, it's interesting. He's a really good player.

440
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 3: It's this is so about bizarre. He does so many

441
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Speaker 3: things well except you can't shoot, which is Dad was

442
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: one of my all time great NBA probably one of

443
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Speaker 3: the best shooters in the last twenty five years. So no,

444
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 3: but I think Woggler's hurt his season, Soyokovic's, you know,

445
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 3: And because wagog came out of nowhere. You know, it's

446
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 3: amazing to me that Woggo got out of Kansas City

447
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 3: and didn't go to Ku or Miszoo. And you know,

448
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 3: that's amazing because he's going to be a one and

449
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 3: done And so I haven't heard anything, but you know,

450
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 3: he's an incomplete player. I love his I love it

451
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 3: early in the year when he was playing well. I

452
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 3: love his toughness, his tenacity, gets to the rim well.

453
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Speaker 3: But he's not a great shooter. So I don't know.

454
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Speaker 3: Brad Underwood, who I know pretty well, is like, uh,

455
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 3: he doesn't mess around. Man. If you're not bringing it,

456
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 3: or you're if your body language is bad, or you're

457
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Speaker 3: not all together with the team, you could be in trouble.

458
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Speaker 3: So I don't know exactly, but I know that he's

459
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Speaker 3: not been as big a factor as he was early

460
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Speaker 3: in the year.

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Speaker 2: So I turned my nose up. When you're like, yeah,

462
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Speaker 2: Yukon can make can make the final four? Ioas Ta,

463
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Speaker 2: I just I don't mean to diminish those teams. But

464
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Speaker 2: Fran like the gap in per Kenpom. The net rating

465
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Speaker 2: between say, like an Iowa State and a Saint John's

466
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Speaker 2: is not that big, but I feel the gap between

467
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Speaker 2: like Arizona and Iowa State, it feels massive. I don't

468
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Speaker 2: feel like they could like Iowa State could hang with Michigan,

469
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Speaker 2: but could Arkansas hang with I always say I feel

470
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Speaker 2: like it. Maybe I don't know. Am I wrong?

471
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Speaker 3: No, you're not wrong, But remember what we're talking about.

472
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Speaker 3: You're talking about one and done games. So yeah, if

473
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Speaker 3: we if we had the four that we talked about

474
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Speaker 3: in Indianapolis, we'd all be doing handstands because we all

475
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Speaker 3: think that's the best four team, right, and so that

476
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Speaker 3: would excite me no end as a fan. But I

477
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Speaker 3: know enough about we know you do too. You know

478
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Speaker 3: that anything can happen. And when you look at I'm

479
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Speaker 3: trying to think of another team, like I'll give you

480
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Speaker 3: I'll give you a fly a dark horse. Virginia Virginia Quae. Yeah,

481
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Speaker 3: the two big you know, they're like, what are they

482
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Speaker 3: twenty five and three years something? You know, but there were.

483
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Speaker 2: Four losses, but yeah, they're really twenty seven and four.

484
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty seven and four. You know what I'm just saying,

485
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Speaker 3: Like teams like that, they played one game. Like, here's

486
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Speaker 3: what I always say. In a thirty five game season,

487
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Speaker 3: you play five games over your head. I don't care

488
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Speaker 3: who you are, you could be lu Illinois. There's gonna

489
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Speaker 3: be five games where everything goes right. You make seventeen threes, yeah, ball,

490
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Speaker 3: the ball bounces three times, it drops in, you know,

491
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Speaker 3: those things happen, And then five games where you play lousy,

492
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Speaker 3: and the other twenty five is who your team is.

493
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Speaker 3: The great teams win games when they play lousy, and

494
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Speaker 3: sometimes a great team plays like you know, Illinois plays

495
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Speaker 3: Alcorn State, They're gonna win by thirty five forty, but

496
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Speaker 3: that that night they hit seventeen threes they win by fifty. Yeah,

497
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Speaker 3: you say, why couldn't we save this from Michigan? And

498
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Speaker 3: so if you have one of those five games and

499
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Speaker 3: you're thirty five where it doesn't go well, you know,

500
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Speaker 3: the algorithm whatever they call it, igorithms are off. Yeah,

501
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: any of those teams, Like listen, I did the Michigan

502
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Speaker 3: TCU game. We now TCU turned out to be better

503
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Speaker 3: than we thought. The Jamie Dixon's done a great job,

504
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 3: he asked, Michigan should have lost that game. TCU beat Florida.

505
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Speaker 3: So all I'm saying is in a one game, when

506
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Speaker 3: you get good teams like Saint John's, Yukon, Iowa, State

507
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Speaker 3: of Carolina. Although now with Wilson, I would I would

508
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Speaker 3: I would have been that if I knew Wilson was

509
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Speaker 3: coming back, that would be another one of those teams.

510
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Speaker 3: But no, I think if you you look at those

511
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Speaker 3: other twelve teams after the top four. There's a couple,

512
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Speaker 3: there's a team or two there that could make a

513
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Speaker 3: magical run to the final four because you know, one

514
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Speaker 3: one done situation, you you have you catch Michigan or

515
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Speaker 3: Arizona on a bad day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just looking at the Virginia roster. The kid

517
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Speaker 2: from Belgium, twenty three years old freshman, I know, not bad.

518
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522
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Speaker 2: So another team somewhat dangerous because of the three pointers, Wisconsin.

523
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Speaker 2: Have you done any of their games? What are your

524
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Speaker 2: thoughts on Wisconsin? They don't defend at all. Greg Gard

525
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: has had a lot of March issues, but anytime you

526
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Speaker 2: could take down they want at Purdue. I think they've

527
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Speaker 2: eat Michigan and they want one other good win. That

528
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 2: was amazing, Oh Illinois on the road, I mean those

529
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Speaker 2: are those are huge wins, but they're contingent on threes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't seen that much. I know John Blackwell

531
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Speaker 3: is a heck of a player, and I love Greg Guard.

532
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Speaker 3: I can't really give you. I've been so locked in

533
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Speaker 3: for the most part to you know, Big twelve. The

534
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Speaker 3: last couple of months, I'll turn them on. And I

535
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Speaker 3: always root for Greg guard because he had a tall

536
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Speaker 3: order replacing bo Ryan. It's right, and a lot of

537
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Speaker 3: people who aren't sure whether Greg could be the guy,

538
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Speaker 3: and he's proven to be the guy. So I can't

539
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Speaker 3: really give you. What I can tell you from a

540
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: distance is Wisconsin's like in Iowa State, and a Saint

541
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Speaker 3: John's or a you know, a Yukon. And by the way,

542
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: when everybody was bitching about Saint John's not having a

543
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: point guard like two and a half months ago, and

544
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: that was Rick's fault. That's Rick Patino's fault because he

545
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: said we could win without a point guard and then

546
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: they started struggling a little bit. It always dawns on

547
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Speaker 3: me that Rick is one of the best coaches of

548
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Speaker 3: all time. So now you mean to tell me, you know,

549
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 3: in a let's say the second weekend of the tournament.

550
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Speaker 3: Let's assume Saint John's gets by the first weekend. You

551
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: mean to tell me, in a four team tournament that

552
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: Rick Patino can't get his team ready to win two

553
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Speaker 3: more games and get to a final four.

554
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Speaker 2: Well, they got to get out of that first weekend.

555
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Ken pondstats one hundred eighty six

556
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Speaker 2: to threes, two hundred and ninth and two's one hundred

557
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: ninetieth and free throws. I mean, they just can't shoot.

558
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: That scares me, well, it does me too, But there's

559
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 3: certain guys that figure out ways to win.

560
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's see they're what like they're looking at it.

561
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: Maybe a three seed here?

562
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

563
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, three four?

564
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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess give them a three seed, give

565
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 3: them a three seed, right, and then give him a

566
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Speaker 3: win over the sixth seed, just for argument's sake, and

567
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: now it's a you know, what is it going to

568
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 3: be a three versus two? Who?

569
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Speaker 2: Well, that's the problem that I think that you know,

570
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: if you if you draw Illinois that that's a tall order.

571
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: Houston would be a difficult one. I think Michigan State's

572
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: a week two. I'm sorry. I know the ISO fans

573
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: are strong, and I don't think Yukon's a great two either.

574
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, I'm what what I think you're discounting,

575
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Speaker 3: And I don't disagree talent wise, but what I'm not

576
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: discounting is, like Danny Hurley, look, at they did last year.

577
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: They weren't they weren't any good compared to the two

578
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: championship teams, and yet there were one play away from

579
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: beating the national champion. That's right. Yeah, So again when

580
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Speaker 3: I get back to one and done, I'm not arguing

581
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: with the talent wise, but we know how chalk works.

582
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Speaker 2: So this bracket has Saint John's is a five facing

583
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Speaker 2: Yale and then Alabama in the second round.

584
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Speaker 3: Harvard's gonna beat Yale next weekend. I'm joking.

585
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely, You're kind of connected there.

586
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: Huh. Harvard finished ten and four and they played Yale

587
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: twice and they're one point up on Yale in two

588
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: great games. So I'll be pulling for Harvard, but you know,

589
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: we'll see. But anyway, I get your point now, I

590
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: just I just all I'm saying is there are four

591
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Speaker 3: tremendous teams, and then I see teams that on a

592
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: given night. Can you know, like there's there are nights

593
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: where Mam Chilovich makes seven threes and they play the

594
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: stifling defense that they're capable of. That I was taking

595
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Speaker 3: it to an elite eight and then upset a team

596
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Speaker 3: that is better than them on paper. Yeah.

597
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Speaker 2: No, that's a great point. But last year, so the

598
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: top four seeds went sixteen or no. Early the Elite

599
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: A was one versus two, one versus two, one versus two,

600
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Speaker 2: and one versus three. The other three was Texas Tech

601
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: after Saint Johnson's. But like I just it was really chalky.

602
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: So maybe that's why we are just thinking, yeah, tchalk again.

603
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Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't. I wouldn't bet against those four teams

604
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 3: because they are playing great. I mean Michigan, you know,

605
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Speaker 3: I mean, gosh, I look at it, and I saw

606
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Speaker 3: them in person, Like I said, they should have lost

607
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: the TCU. But it's funny. When I talked to Dusty

608
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 3: made that day of the game, spent some time with him,

609
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: he said. I said to him, boy, you got a

610
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Speaker 3: lot of talent. And it was early like third game

611
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: I think, and he said, we got a lot of ingredients,

612
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: but I don't know how to cook the meal yet,

613
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: you know. And so he's obviously put together like a

614
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Speaker 3: michell a Michelin, like he's going to get a Micheline

615
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: award because he's figured out how to cook the meal. Now,

616
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: remember they lost Kison.

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Speaker 2: That's a big one.

618
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Speaker 3: Not a yeah, I would say not a killer, killer loss,

619
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Speaker 3: but still a big piece in some ways. Kaison was

620
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Speaker 3: playing better than Cado.

621
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: Was a one of these hype New York City guys, right,

622
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: Jersey kid.

623
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cado, Cado is a kid. No Is Cason's a

624
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: Florida kid.

625
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah Cado, I meant sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like I.

626
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: Like Elliet Cadou, but Cason was a security blanket because

627
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: Caddot can be really turnover pro hu and so anyway,

628
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: but when I saw those guys in person, they're massive.

629
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Speaker 3: When I watch Arizona, don't forget Arizona. They had they

630
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: they went through two weeks where they played without Pete

631
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: and Aristote, so this great eight man rotation was six

632
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: and now that they're back to eight, I think they're

633
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: as good as anybody in the country. And and don't

634
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: forget Duke's hurt.

635
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Speaker 2: Now, uh yeah, what happened to the center. I didn't

636
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: even know he was out against UNC. Yeah that was

637
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Speaker 2: yeah gone.

638
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, and I'm from what Shire said, he's not

639
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: going to play Foster or Big Pat next week at all.

640
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: In the in the a SEC tournament, He's he's keeping

641
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: them out. So again that's a little bit of a

642
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: you know question more because like Arizona went through it

643
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: in mid February all of a sudden, Duke's going through it.

644
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: And listen, if Texas Tech had JT. Topp and what's

645
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: Christian Anderson and those great guards, would be a whole

646
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: different story. So total, Yeah, that's why I say. Also,

647
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: you got to be lucky too. You know Shed got

648
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: hurt a couple of years.

649
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: Ago, and again I remember brutal.

650
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: So that's what we're not factoring in. I think, would

651
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: I want you to factor in? And you can't factor

652
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: it in when you put your bracket together? Is coaching

653
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: and then the luck of the injuries and bad breaks.

654
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do a lot of Big twelve. So we

655
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: got to talk about Darren Peterson here. I know you

656
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: know him probably as well as anybody. You're tight with

657
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: Bill self, So say whatever you can. But like, should

658
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: we be worried about that? Was he dogging it?

659
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: Do you think?

660
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: I mean, he's playing a lot of minutes now, but

661
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: that was after everything got really loud. I think he's

662
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: the best player in the country when he when he's playing.

663
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: I like to bance a lot, but I had to

664
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: head it. I don't know if you called that game.

665
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: It felt like Peterson got the him. It was that fog.

666
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I didn't do that game. Jay and

667
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: Dan Schulman to that game. But I've seen him both

668
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 3: like multiple multiple times on this on a semi on

669
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: a semi inside which I am, but don't know everything

670
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: about Darren. I would say number one, he's a great kid.

671
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: I think there was a caution from outside of the program,

672
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: so you can you can figure that out, family agent,

673
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: et cetera about certain things that he dealt with, cramps,

674
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: hamstring that made the family a little hesitant. Every time

675
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 3: I've been around him, he seems to be a happy,

676
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: go lucky kid, great teammate, et cetera. I would say this,

677
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: I love his talent. I love his talent. He's a

678
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: bucket natural scorer. But you're not doing your due diligence

679
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: if you're in any of those NBA teams in the

680
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: top three or four, if you're and it's going to

681
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: come down to the combine the medicals, because if you're

682
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: going to make him the facier your franchise and he's

683
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: gonna go to a mediocre, a bad team, obviously, you

684
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 3: just don't want to go to your owner and say,

685
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: we're paying this guy thirty six million guaranteed first pick

686
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: in the draft. But oh, by the way, he's going

687
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: going to play fifty to sixty games, So you got

688
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 3: to do your homework and everything could be cleared up

689
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: by the by the combine in Chicago. But I have concerns,

690
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: teams have concerns. But to your point, when he's played,

691
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 3: you know a lot of minutes like he did yeh

692
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 3: twenty seven points of twenty nine minutes yesterday, he scores

693
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: so effortlessly. A j has had an amazing year, and

694
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 3: he may be the safer pick.

695
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, he may be not a consolation prize

696
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: by any stretch.

697
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 3: No, No, And I'm going to tell you about this

698
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: draft because you know you'll have me back on early

699
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 3: jer Yeah. Yeah. And I say this jokingly, but like

700
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 3: this is a draft where there is a lot of

701
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 3: consolation prizes. I mean, shake, Gilles Alexander went eleventh, Steph

702
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: was taken after Johnny Flynn and Ricky Rubio, remember that, right,

703
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: Jaylen Brunson went thirty fourth. We can go on and

704
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: on and on, right, And what I'm saying is Braden

705
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 3: Burry's could be the best player in his draft going

706
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: seventh eighth. Darius Acuff could be Dame Loward. We don't know.

707
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: Here's a great one about Caleb Wilson. This is why

708
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 3: I love this kid. Don't worry about the surgeries. He's

709
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: gonna be fine. When they played Kansas and beat Kansas

710
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 3: at home, like the third game of the season, they

711
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: asked Caleb Wilson about playing with against Darreon Peterson and

712
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: he said, yeah, I was on them. I was on

713
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 3: the West McDonald's team with him. He never passed me

714
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: the ball and that told me something. That told me

715
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: something about the kid, Like nothing against Darren, but that

716
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: told me this kid has got a chip. So you know,

717
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 3: you look at a Cuff and Flemings and you know,

718
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: you go down the line six, seven, eight, first eight picks,

719
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 3: somebody one of those other guys could end up being

720
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: the best player in this draft. That's how it usually works.

721
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Burry's is interesting because I don't you know,

722
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: they have so many good players every night, it's like

723
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: a different leading scorer. Yeah, but I don't think of

724
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: him as like a foundational guy. I didn't think top ten.

725
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: You're saying, like, wow, top ten.

726
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: Let me tell you everything. Here's the thing about Bury's

727
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: and I keep a you know, I talked to everybody

728
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 3: on their staff, all their players, every game. I had

729
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: somebody tell me last week because the first five games

730
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: of his career at Arizona, he everye eight points a game.

731
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 3: In the last thirty twenty five games, he's averaging like

732
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: eighteen or nineteen. And I had a couple of people

733
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 3: tell me from the day he came on campus last summer,

734
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: everybody knew he was the best talent, best player. And

735
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: he's proven that. And I'm the guy that said, they've

736
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 3: got eight starters every night, eight starters, eight starters. But

737
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: he has grown on me and he really reminds me

738
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 3: like Jamal Murray was the seventh pick. Okay, Jamal Wurrs.

739
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: Murray's won an NBA title. Remember Cal didn't start Jamal

740
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: Murray or you know, like Booker Murray, Shay Gills, Alexander

741
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 3: Child put them in witness protection program at Kentucky he did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

742
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: right and then and they're great players. And I'm half

743
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: joking about that, but Braden Burry's is the real deal.

744
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 3: He's he's really good. Yeah.

745
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: So Jaden Bradley is the senior. They have similar games.

746
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: Would you say, I mean.

747
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: Burry's a bet can shoot a.

748
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 3: Better No, No, Jayden Bradley is the ultimate consummate, old school,

749
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: four year college point guard, right, and he'll play in

750
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 3: the league. He's going to be a backup point guard

751
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: for twelve years in the league. He'll make a lot

752
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: of money. But Burry's is the most talented. Bradley's the

753
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: MVP of that team, and Burry's is the go to

754
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: guy man. He scores like he breathes, and he'll be

755
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: in the top ten when it's all said and done.

756
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 3: But remember Booker didn't start. Yeah, no, no, for sure,

757
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: and look what Booker is doing in the league.

758
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: Wasn't Who's the Tyrese Maxey? Was he? He didn't? I

759
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: mean he started?

760
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember Tyler Julis started over. Maybe Booker came

761
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 3: off un yes, little, Yeah, Tyler's now at Arkansas as

762
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 3: an assistant coach. But so Cal had his way of

763
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 3: doing it and it worked out great. Remember Cal will

764
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 3: tell you he's got four billion dollars worth of NBA contracts.

765
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 3: You know that he's responsible for him and.

766
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: The Flemings from from Houston he's kind of petered out here.

767
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's wearing down or people are

768
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 2: figuring him out. I mean, there's some good small point

769
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: guard Flemings a cuff. Uh, there's one other space.

770
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 3: Bristian Anderson is really good from Anderson.

771
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: And Texas Tech is good yet. But where are you

772
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: on Flemings?

773
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: Really? Why? I think what happened at the end of

774
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: the year, because you know, the league has got a

775
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: bunch of great coaches is to your point, the way

776
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: to wear him out on offense is to go at

777
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: him on defense. And because Houston switches a lot like Arizona,

778
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 3: for example, Karl Schenkov, my the the evil guy from

779
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: the James Bond movies. Yeah, they they they they they

780
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 3: put him in like we call it, you know, the

781
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 3: NBA calls it mismatch hunting, right unt hunt mismatches And

782
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: they switched Flemings onto kart Chenkov. And I love Kingston.

783
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: He's gonna be a terrific player, but defensively right now,

784
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 3: he's got to get bigger and stronger. He's got no

785
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 3: chest density, which you have to have in the NBA

786
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: or people go through you like paper mache. Offensively, it's

787
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: not going to be an issue. Spacing is Spacing is

788
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: going to be great for him. He's gonna have a

789
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: lot of it in the league. But he'll have to

790
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: get bigger and stronger. He's just a baby. And I

791
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: don't mean that pejoratively.

792
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, would he stay in school or definitely.

793
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 3: Problem, No, got to come out. It's too high a pick.

794
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: I mean, if he's not the fifth pick, he'll be

795
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: the sixth or seventh at the at the at the worst.

796
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: Who, knowing what you know, would you take Flemings or

797
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: Berry's if you needed a point guard.

798
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: Well, Burry's is going to be is a two guard too.

799
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 3: He can score, He's a buckets.

800
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 2: But there's no positions anymore in the league, right brad

801
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: Bury's is not.

802
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: Going to make everybody you know, Like Flemings can get

803
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 3: it up the floor and dice, slice and dice defenses,

804
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 3: where Burry's the slight dices you with the scoring. He

805
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 3: scores at every level he can. And he's just a really,

806
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: really good offensive player. And Mike comp for him. I

807
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: said it earlier. If he turns out to be Joe

808
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray and you were what's your favorite NBA team,

809
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 3: you know.

810
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a Knicks Lakers guy, which is all right,

811
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: So you.

812
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 3: Know, let's say that, let's say the Knicks got Burry's

813
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 3: and I said, hey, he's going to be exactly like

814
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray.

815
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: You'd be excatic, of coursemal Murray, That's what I mean. Now, Weirdly,

816
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: I think he's only made one All Star team. But

817
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: All Star teams is a terrible nation.

818
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: Why I know it's well, I remember he's in the

819
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 3: West with you know, hard in those guys.

820
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: And yeah, by the way, I'm just curious. Do you

821
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: watch much NBA anymore, Frann or not?

822
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: Really?

823
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: Not now? I mean I will when the season ends. Yeah,

824
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 3: you know, I've watched a few. I've got a son

825
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: that's in the league coaching, and so I watched their

826
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: team on occasion. But no, And I'll tell you this

827
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 3: the hardest, the hardest part about the NBA draft For

828
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: all that, and there's a there's a draft and industrial

829
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: complex going on right now. Major everybody on Twitter's got

830
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: a mock draft. And I poop pooted for a while,

831
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: and then I thought I was being snobbish, you know,

832
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: because I've been around the game forty five years. But

833
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: the problem with all the mock drafts. And I don't

834
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: mean this, Naga. I don't want to sound negative, Nelly,

835
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: but if you're not watching three to four NBA games

836
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: live a month, it's two different languages. Yeah, it's a

837
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 3: difference between I think I told you this years ago,

838
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: Spanish and Portuguese, two different languages. They sound alike, two

839
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: different languages. Like the spacing in the NBA. Remember when

840
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 3: Luka Donci said it's so much easier for me to

841
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: score in the NBA than in the EuroLeague. And what

842
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: he was saying was there's so much space in the

843
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 3: NBA because you're always surrounded by good players and you've

844
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: got to account for guys that can make threes, whereas

845
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: in college they can shrink the floor, which they do

846
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 3: on AJ Debonsa most nights. Yeah, so Aj is gonna

847
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: have a lot of space in the NBA and do

848
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: what he's doing at even in another level when he

849
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: you know, when he figures it all out. The first

850
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Speaker 3: couple of years, all.

851
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Speaker 2: Right, last one, frand I know you got a busy schedule.

852
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: So Cameron Boozer is a perplexing NBA comp Cowherd is

853
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: trying to push Chris Webber, which is interesting. Weber obviously

854
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: more athletic. I said, Sibonis demonta Sabonis. Someone was trying

855
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: to tell me, Tim Duncan, I don't know what to

856
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: do with Boozer. He doesn't wow you with the athleticism.

857
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 2: But man, he does everything and he's eighteen and a

858
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 2: half years old. He does everything wrong.

859
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 3: Well, you know when I saw yok at you at eighteen,

860
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 3: I did see him at eighteen. Oh, he didn't wow

861
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: me with his athleticism.

862
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

863
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: I mean, Dodgach just sneaky athletic, but he didn't wow

864
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: me with his speed and quickness. You know, I think

865
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 3: Cam Boozer, listen, he could be the best player in

866
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: the draft. We don't know. You remember, you know there

867
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 3: was a there was a Hollywood producer named William Goldman,

868
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 3: and he did Butch Cassidy and The Sun Dance Kid.

869
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: He had all these famous movies from the seventies, sixty

870
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 3: seventies and eighties, and someone asked him, like, what makes

871
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: the Hollywood hit? He goes, nobody knows anything. Well, he

872
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: was basically saying, is you know a lot of times

873
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 3: it's just a crapshoot. And when it comes to NFL

874
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: NBA draft, same thing. Personally, I think Cam Boozer's twenty

875
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Speaker 3: and ten from the day he steps on an NBA court,

876
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: and then I think someday he could be twenty five

877
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: and fifteen. I just think he's not failing, and he's

878
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: a better passer and three point shooter than people realize.

879
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 3: And yeah, he plays it below the rim, but you know,

880
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: like I said, there's a lot of guys in the

881
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 3: league that get it done below the rim.

882
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 2: Well, he goes to the Kings, though, he'll probably fail,

883
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: right because.

884
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, there's certain cultures that you

885
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 3: don't want a good player to go to. Honestly, Yeah,

886
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't want to sabotage the Kings, but.

887
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: No, no, but that's the reality. Like if they get

888
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: Darren Peterson, Peterson is probably gonna be pissed, and so

889
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: is his camp, you know. I mean, unfortunately, they just

890
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 2: mess everything up there. The owner, you know, I don't

891
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: they just make a lot of bad decisions their roster

892
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 2: right now, Like what are they doing? I have no idea.

893
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to be careful because I have a

894
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: son in the league. And you know, I don't want

895
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: to disparage any team, but I would say there are

896
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: a handful of teams that you'd hope a guy and

897
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 3: get drafted too, and like those it was no human nature,

898
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, there are some really good tax accounts,

899
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: and then are some guys that are gonna get you

900
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Speaker 3: put in jail, you know what I mean?

901
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: All right, we'll go out on that one.

902
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: Tell me as a Boozer fan, yeah, I like him

903
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 3: a lot.

904
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Speaker 2: Man, I too love him, I don't. I don't know,

905
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,479
Speaker 2: Like the NBA compass what everybody wants. Tim Duncan said

906
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 2: forty years and was awesome and was twenty and ten

907
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 2: better than that.

908
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: I think back old school Karl Alone, you know a

909
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 3: little bit, Carmelone.

910
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, he looked he wasn't the best

911
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: player on the court against Michigan. I thought that was

912
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Speaker 2: jacksonburg Uh, Jaxelllendeborg. I thought he was the best player.

913
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Speaker 2: But then down the stretch, who wins it? Boozer's clutch

914
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: doing everything, passing, scoring, rebounding.

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00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I saw a Boozer put like thirty in

916
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Speaker 3: an ex officient game. Against a Tennessee front line that

917
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 3: really looked like the Tennessee Titans front line. Wow, he

918
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 3: you know, like a para and a bunch of guys.

919
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Speaker 3: And I was there and I saw him get thirty

920
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 3: or twenty eight, and I'm like, man, you can't stop

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Speaker 3: this guy, even though, you know, I gotta remind people

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Speaker 3: what a New York phone book used to look like. Yeah,

923
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 3: because they don't have phone books anymore or phone booths,

924
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: but he he could have. He can't even if he

925
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 3: can't jump over to New York phone book. Look it up, folks. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he just gets things.

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Speaker 2: Done, just makes it happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, like Jokic, like Jokic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. So obviously Fran had an amazing coaching career.

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00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 2: Now he's great announcer, draft analyst. I love your work, Fran.

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Speaker 2: We'll have you back before the draft sounds good.

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Speaker 3: Always a pleasure, Jason, love talking hoop with you.