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Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday. We have an amazing show for everybody's day.

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Speaker 1: What do we have, Crystal, Indeed, we do lots of

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Speaker 1: election news, lots of legal news of twenty twenty four news.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I'm sure you guys saw us our

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Speaker 1: dueling speeches in Pennsylvania over the past several days with

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Speaker 1: Republican Party. They sort of live by Trump and they

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Speaker 1: die by Trump because on the one hand, he he

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Speaker 1: was the kingmaker and the primaries, a lot of these

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Speaker 1: candidates would not be their nominees, certainly doctor Oz, possibly Mastriano,

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Speaker 1: but definitely doctor Oz. Yeah without Trump, So I mean

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Speaker 1: he made both of these candidates. On the other hand,

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Speaker 1: not just as he's such a divisive figure and a

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Speaker 1: lightning rod whose obsessions do not align with what the

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Speaker 1: public is actually interested in, he also sucks up all

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Speaker 1: the money. So you're also very dependent on him for

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Speaker 1: any sort of fundraising. We're going to get to the

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Speaker 1: problems with the National Republican Senatorial Committee, but part of

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Speaker 1: the details that came out in that article is how

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Speaker 1: dependent they are on Trump for their fundraising. Like every

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Speaker 1: fundraising email they send out is about Trump. It's not

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Speaker 1: about hey, here's what we're going to do, or even

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Speaker 1: about like, oh, the Democrats are terrible and here's how

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Speaker 1: they're destroying the country. It's like all about Trump. They

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Speaker 1: are completely dependent on him, but they also are extraordinarily

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Speaker 1: limited by him for how far they can go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right, and let's put the poll up there on

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Speaker 1: the screen. As well, just again to underscore this, the

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Speaker 1: mar A Lago raid boosted Trump amongst GOP voters. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they say, may damage him with most voters. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I never have any way to know.

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Speaker 1: What history teaches us in general is that the more

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Speaker 1: the country becomes mired in the details of these idiotic investigations, well,

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Speaker 1: the more that people generally lose interest, and in general

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Speaker 1: it has helped Trump. Is this one different because this

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Speaker 1: one might actually lead to his actual indictment, which all

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Speaker 1: signs currently point to. To be clear on what timeline,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. Will it damage him maybe? Will

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Speaker 1: it damage this as much as January sixth, Probably not.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean I do. Look, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, I've expressed this before, like this is qualitatively

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Speaker 1: different than Russiagate in that there is very clear they're there,

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Speaker 1: and you see that certainly by the way, Republicans who

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Speaker 1: are initially very enthusiastic about defending him have now gone

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Speaker 1: pretty quiet, with some exceptions they as more details have

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Speaker 1: come out. So there's that, there's the fact that he's

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Speaker 1: not president anymore, so he doesn't have you know, all

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Speaker 1: of the sort of stature of that office, and he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have as much of an ability to just control

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Speaker 1: the narrative the way that he used to be able

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Speaker 1: to do. You got to go over to freaking social

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Speaker 1: to find out what the hell he's saying these days.

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Speaker 1: So I do think that those things make a difference.

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Speaker 1: And clearly, like now we've had enough pulling to see

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Speaker 1: overwhelmingly American people think like the search was justified, and

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Speaker 1: they think that you know, a majority thinks he should

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Speaker 1: be prosecuted if he is in fact in violation of

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Speaker 1: the law. So I do think it continues to kind

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Speaker 1: of like harm him with Normies who like it or not,

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Speaker 1: are still very like you know, they respect the FBI,

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Speaker 1: they want law and order like you know, I mean really,

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Speaker 1: and so it's definitely bolstered him with the base. I

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Speaker 1: really think it strengthens his position in terms of making

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Speaker 1: sure he secures the Republican nomination. All of the talk

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Speaker 1: from a couple months ago about the santisizing the Boles

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Speaker 1: and whatever, I think this kind of nips that in

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Speaker 1: the bud. But I do think it's one more thing

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Speaker 1: that reminds people who had kind of forgotten a little

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Speaker 1: bit in him being a bit quieter, how obnoxious is

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Speaker 1: kind of, how chaotic it is when he's around, how

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Speaker 1: divisive it is, and how much they were how much

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Speaker 1: they were swayed by the Biden narrative of like, let's

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Speaker 1: just calm things down and let's just try to get

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Speaker 1: back to whatever normal actually is. We'll see how that looks.

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Speaker 1: And listen, I mean, I think the Dems are in

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Speaker 1: a better position than they've been in for a long time.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of multi fact fascinated reasons as to

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Speaker 1: why Trump is certainly one of them. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: the re emergence and reascendance of Trump more from you know,

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Speaker 1: not to say he wasn't already in charge, but especially

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Speaker 1: to put him at the top is very good for

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Speaker 1: him personally. Well, listen, this really, you know, obvious, is

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Speaker 1: the kickoff to the final stretch for the midterms, no

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Speaker 1: doubt about that. Both these guys out there making their

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Speaker 1: respective cases, and Trump and the Republicans are there's no

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Speaker 1: splitting apart, so that it is going to be a

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Speaker 1: choice election. I think that's pretty clear at this point.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to hell. But I also would say this is

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Speaker 1: the you know, this is the unofficial kickoff for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. This is these campaigns and elections start earlier

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Speaker 1: and earlier. Trump could announce anytime. The expectation is Biden

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Speaker 1: will also announce fairly soon. So this is the path

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Speaker 1: we're going to be headed down for quite a while now. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the REDUCS is truly here, just like Hell Hollywood, just

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Speaker 1: like Hollywood the sequel. Nobody asked me yet we'll get

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Speaker 1: shoved down their throat. All right, let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: talk about the Special Master. Let's throw this up there

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Speaker 1: on the screen. It broke last night. Judge Cannon, the

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Speaker 1: federal judge, is granted Trump's request for a special Master

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Speaker 1: to review attorney client and executive privilege, executive there being

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Speaker 1: the key. She also says that her order will not

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Speaker 1: stop the intelligence community view of the record. So this

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Speaker 1: is a fascinating case. And as we have talked about previously,

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Speaker 1: the attorney client privileged stuff. If you trust the FBI

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Speaker 1: just saying they do have that so called filter team,

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Speaker 1: I believe the official turb is taint team, as we discussed,

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Speaker 1: let's go with filter here for breaking points. Canon, Well,

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Speaker 1: that filter team has already actually completed its attorney client

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Speaker 1: privileged review. However, from the order by the judge, we

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Speaker 1: do learn why is this so different, because frankly, it's

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Speaker 1: the former president. Let's throw this up there. Just from

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Speaker 1: the document sees, we know that they include Trump's medical documents,

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Speaker 1: correspondence related to his taxes accounting information as the former president.

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Speaker 1: The judge says, quote, the stigma associated with the subject

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Speaker 1: seizure is in a league of its own. And another

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Speaker 1: reason I think it's important to even publicize what type

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Speaker 1: of documents have come out is, look, these people leak

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Speaker 1: like a sieve. You know, would you truly be surprised,

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Speaker 1: Crystal if some of these documents just happened to end

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Speaker 1: up in the hands of the New York Times. No?

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Speaker 1: And then look, that's part of the case that the

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Speaker 1: judge makes that which is correct. Yeah, that's the right case,

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Speaker 1: which is Listen, at the end of the day, it's

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Speaker 1: the former president. I don't support the FBI doing that

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Speaker 1: to anybody, and they are known to be very political.

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Speaker 1: Just look at how much information we even know about

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Speaker 1: this case. We were getting the lists of documents and

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Speaker 1: the types of classified information, the et cetera being leaked

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Speaker 1: to the Times almost instantly after the raid even occurred,

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Speaker 1: and I think the judge making the case here that

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Speaker 1: what makes this different. It's the former president, and you

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Speaker 1: and I are discussing it before the show, and I

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Speaker 1: don't really understand why the legal community is in an

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Speaker 1: uproar over like by this. I mean the like quote

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Speaker 1: unquote resistance liberal you know, the pre Burraras and all

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Speaker 1: those people of the way, Like this is outrageous. This

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Speaker 1: is obstructing the investigation. I mean, all that person is

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Speaker 1: tasked with doing is going through privileged information. And will

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Speaker 1: it delay the case, yeah, probably, but that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: that the eventual case won't be brought. That's what they

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Speaker 1: seem to be the most upsetive from what I can

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Speaker 1: so from what I can tell, listen, I'm not a lawyer.

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Speaker 1: We're not lawyers. I'm humble enough to say, like, I

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Speaker 1: couldn't tell you right now whether this is a big

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Speaker 1: deal or whether it like really violates president outside of

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Speaker 1: the norms. I mean, listen, we're dealing with the former president.

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Speaker 1: We are in uncharted territory, so sort of definitionly, any

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Speaker 1: decision that was made here would be something new and different.

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Speaker 1: The part that they seemed to me most upset about

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Speaker 1: was like the precedent that was being set, especially with

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Speaker 1: regards to you know, I mean, lots of people have

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Speaker 1: their homes raided and documentcies, etc. There's no doubt that

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Speaker 1: the president is getting sort of special treatment here. Most

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Speaker 1: people do not have it taken into consideration that like, oh,

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Speaker 1: some of your personal effects were taken. Let's give you

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Speaker 1: some redress and give you some relief so that you

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Speaker 1: can potentially get those things back. And so what I

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Speaker 1: could tell is that there was an upset over the

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Speaker 1: precedent that was being set here, even among some of

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Speaker 1: these those people, though they were like, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: it really makes a different in terms of the case,

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Speaker 1: because ultimately we weren't going to have charges filed until

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Speaker 1: after the midterms anyway, So I'm not even like it.

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Speaker 1: It will cause some delay. As now the government has

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Speaker 1: been blocked from continuing to use these documents in the

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Speaker 1: criminal investigation part. They are allowed to continue their National

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Speaker 1: security review, and that's an analysis to find out what

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Speaker 1: if any damage would be done if any of these

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Speaker 1: documents were leaked, released, made public, etc. Or got into

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Speaker 1: the wrong hand. So that review is able to continue,

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Speaker 1: but they're not allowed to use the documents in terms

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Speaker 1: of the criminal investigation. So, yeah, that sets things back.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a win for the Trump team,

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Speaker 1: helps them to kind of confuse things muddy the waters.

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Speaker 1: They did not rule on weather. And she's very explicit

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Speaker 1: in saying like, this does not mean that I agree

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Speaker 1: that a former president can assert executive privilege in especially

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Speaker 1: when they're sort of, you know, at loggerheads with the

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Speaker 1: current incumbent president. She said, we'll leave that ruling for

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Speaker 1: another day, but it does open the door moar for

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Speaker 1: the Trump team to be able to claim executive privilege

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Speaker 1: over some of these documents. So I guess the big

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Speaker 1: takeaway is like, we'll see, we'll see whether this dime

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Speaker 1: is the investigation. We'll see how long this process takes.

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Speaker 1: The next piece of the puzzle here is both sides

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Speaker 1: have to submit suggestions for who the Special Master should be.

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Speaker 1: It's not an easy person to find who can sort

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Speaker 1: of fill this role. Who has to be able to

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Speaker 1: review all these extraordinarily classified documents and you know, have

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Speaker 1: the ability to do that and also have whatever the

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Speaker 1: qualifications are for people to serve as a Special Master

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Speaker 1: in the first place. Let me just read this one

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Speaker 1: section of the ruling that I think kind of explains

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Speaker 1: the decision. Here, she says, the court takes into account

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Speaker 1: the undeniably unprecedented eature of the search and a former

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Speaker 1: president's residents, plaintiff's inability to examine these materials in formulating

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Speaker 1: his arguments to date. Again, I assume most plaintiffs don't

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Speaker 1: have that ability either. Plaintiff's stated reliance on the customary

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Speaker 1: cooperation between former and incumbent administrations regarding the ownership and

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Speaker 1: exchange of doctus humans the power imbalance between the parties interesting.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's always quite a power imbalance between the

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Speaker 1: government and the plaintiff, less so in this case when

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Speaker 1: you're dealing with the former president, the importance of maintaining

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Speaker 1: institutional trust, good luck with that one, and the interest

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Speaker 1: in ensuring the integrity of an orderly process amidst swirling

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Speaker 1: allegations of bias and media leaks. So and then she

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Speaker 1: finishes here, plaintiff ultimately may not be entitled to return

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Speaker 1: much of the seized property or to prevail on his

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Speaker 1: anticipated claims of privilege. That inquiry remains for another day.

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Speaker 1: So she's saying, look, I'm not saying you're actually going

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Speaker 1: to get much of your stuff back, if any I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that we're actually going down the path of

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Speaker 1: ruling on executive privilege and getting into all of that.

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Speaker 1: We're going to push that off for another day, but

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Speaker 1: for now, yes, we're putting the special Master in and

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Speaker 1: the government is blocked from being able to continue using

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Speaker 1: the documents for the criminal investigation. Now, there's some speculation

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Speaker 1: about whether or not the government will actually appeal this ruling.

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Speaker 1: It would go to the e les the Circuit Court

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Speaker 1: of Appeals, which is quite conservative, and six of the

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Speaker 1: I believe eleven members were Trump appointees. But I think

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Speaker 1: most people expect it will be appealed. That's what I

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Speaker 1: could tell from the analysis that I saw. And even

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Speaker 1: there's some complicated illegal stuff here about. Even the way

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Speaker 1: the government argued the case was sort of seen as

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Speaker 1: attempting to make the case more appealable and make them

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Speaker 1: give them a better shot of prevailing upon appeal. But

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Speaker 1: given the makeup of that court, I wouldn't be extraordinarily

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Speaker 1: hopeful if I was the government that this would ultimately

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Speaker 1: I agree on the appeals function. I also just think

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Speaker 1: that this sets us up for something we preview before,

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Speaker 1: which is that let's put this attorney prolime privilege aside.

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Speaker 1: The judge zeroed in on executive privilege and said that

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Speaker 1: the Justice Department was potentially overstating again, she's not saying

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Speaker 1: that she buys there, she's not saying that adjudicating it,

658
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Speaker 1: but she says the government is overstating the fact that

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Speaker 1: executive privilege does not apply at all in these cases,

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Speaker 1: which sets up complicated possible jurisprudence all that we up

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Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court in the future about what type

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Speaker 1: of executive privilege can be extended as to when as

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Speaker 1: when you're president not president, the actual declassification process, does

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Speaker 1: that even violate the law? All of that, So put

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Speaker 1: that aside also because that's also what the special Master

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Speaker 1: will be focusing on, and that's another area of jurisprudence

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Speaker 1: that could be wrangled all the way up to the court.

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Speaker 1: Some of the people I've spoken with have pointed to

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Speaker 1: that specifically and maybe again to justify and underline disorder

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Speaker 1: why a special Master might be beneficial in the first place,

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Speaker 1: just to try and avoid and check some boxes before

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Speaker 1: we head to that point with the appeals courts, it's

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Speaker 1: just going to be it's a mess. I mean, when

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Speaker 1: foreign president and you're dealing with this stuff. Just the

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Speaker 1: level of authority that we give that person and then

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Speaker 1: they leave office, it's an unprecedented situation. I mean, when's

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Speaker 1: the last time they even had somebody who was defeated

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Speaker 1: or had one term And I think it's Grover Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: right or Teddy Roosevelt in the nineteen hundreds. That's really

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Speaker 1: the last time that we had even a similar dynamic

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Speaker 1: or somebody wanted to run again again. It's been a

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Speaker 1: long time. I would just say the administrative state has

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Speaker 1: probably changed. Yeah. So while I'm not a legal analyst,

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Speaker 1: what I'll say in terms of the political front, which

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Speaker 1: I think is more of what him and his legal

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00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: Trump and his legal team are really playing towards. Is

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Speaker 1: anything that gets bogged down in these complicated jurisprudence questions

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Speaker 1: over executive privilege and these sorts of things and takes

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Speaker 1: away from just the like bold faced facts that there

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Speaker 1: were highly classified documents at his beach resort for some reason,

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Speaker 1: that he lied to the government and didn't give them back.

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Speaker 1: We don't know why. We also know now there was

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Speaker 1: like a more detailed list of inventory that was released

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Speaker 1: by the government. He in addition to the classified documents,

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Speaker 1: he also had like all of these empty folders that

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Speaker 1: used to contain classified dogguments, which are like what have

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Speaker 1: one of those ones? Where do they go? Anything that

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Speaker 1: distracts from those just like basic facts of what's going on,

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Speaker 1: I think is good for them because then, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: getmired in these legal analyzes where it is contested territory.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like the bulk of the legal

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Speaker 1: profession thinks that this was wrong. We decided this piece

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Speaker 1: about the special Master and takes a different view of

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Speaker 1: executive privilege, but it is contested and it's not entirely

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Speaker 1: clear based on past Supreme Court rulings. The more you

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Speaker 1: get into those details versus the really clear and simple case,

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Speaker 1: I think the better it is politically for them. So

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Speaker 1: that's their strategy is, let's just like money the waters,

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Speaker 1: kick things down the road, buy some time, see what

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Speaker 1: we can do, and hope that we can sort of

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Speaker 1: come up with a political case that's going to ultimately

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Speaker 1: get us off the hook here. Yeah, I think that's right. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the midterms. One of my favorite stories

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Speaker 1: that I read over the break, just a perfect encapsulation

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Speaker 1: of the corruption within the financial the campaign financial system,

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Speaker 1: the idiocy of Rick Scott, and just again a preview

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Speaker 1: of why Republicans are not doing as well as they

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Speaker 1: should be. Let's throw this up there on the screen

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Speaker 1: from the New York Times. How a record cash hall

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Speaker 1: vanished for Senate Republicans. Hmmm, and this is the most stark.

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Speaker 1: The campaign arm of the Senate Republicans collected one hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty one point five million dollars by the end

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Speaker 1: of July, but they have spent ninety five percent of it.

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Speaker 1: A lot of it was invested in quote digital hyper

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Speaker 1: aggressive tactics have not yet paid off, and by have

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Speaker 1: not paid off, they haven't paid at all in terms

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Speaker 1: of what they were invested for. So essentially what they

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Speaker 1: did is a time honor tradition, Crystal, which is they

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Speaker 1: took their money and then they invested it in trying

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Speaker 1: to get more money. Except here's the issue. Most people

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Speaker 1: are not giving to the NRSC. They're giving to Trump.

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Speaker 1: And what they point to specifically is that the incompetence

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Speaker 1: of the NRSC of Rick Scott specifically has led to

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Speaker 1: the organization of like donor meetings and others which are

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Speaker 1: paying out almost nothing to some of these big donors.

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Speaker 1: One of the ones that really caught my eye was

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Speaker 1: this particular anecdote the NRC's large donor program has struggled.

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Speaker 1: In August, four Senate candidates, including eighty Vance, tracked to Nantucket,

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Speaker 1: Massachusetts for It's an Island in Cape cod for an

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Speaker 1: event that netted an initial twenty five thousand dollars, a

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Speaker 1: paltry payout for a like for a candidate to get

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Speaker 1: on a plane and to go out of their state.

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Speaker 1: It should be I mean, look, I don't know the

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Speaker 1: exact dollar figure, but I'm going to assume many, many,

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Speaker 1: multi hundreds of thousands. I believe John Fetterman just did

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Speaker 1: this by going to the Hampton's and raised like untold

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Speaker 1: amounts of money at a single part, right right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you can get twenty five k if you're

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Speaker 1: a Senate candidate in a hot race, you can get

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Speaker 1: twenty five k dialing for dollars on the phone in

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Speaker 1: a matter of hours and never have to leave your state,

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Speaker 1: never like yeah, and miss time on the campaign trail

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Speaker 1: and have the optics of having to fly to the

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Speaker 1: Hamptons or fly to Nantucket or whatever. Twenty five K

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Speaker 1: is pathetic. That might be a decent haul if you're

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Speaker 1: like a sort of mid tier congressional candidate for a

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Speaker 1: top tier senate race statewide. That is really really sad.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely pathetic. And again what they point to is

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Speaker 1: that Scott's quote enormous gamble on trying to find new

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Speaker 1: online donors has been a total flop. He tried to,

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Speaker 1: but this is this is classical, like NBA brain. He's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm the businessman, I was very successful, I'm worth a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. So I'm gonna come in and invest

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Speaker 1: all this money on finding new people for the Republican Party.

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Speaker 1: And he pours all this money into it instead of

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Speaker 1: just normal, you know, just just doing cringe typical RNC

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Speaker 1: stuff would have been better than what they're doing here.

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Speaker 1: And now they don't have cash to spend in Arizona,

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Speaker 1: in Ohio, in Georgia, in Pennsylvania. And if they do

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Speaker 1: get bailed out, it's gonna be Mitch McConnell's superpack which

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Speaker 1: has to do so or and this doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: chance in hell. Trump himself will have to pony up

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Speaker 1: his money. Let me tell you something that has never

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Speaker 1: happened in the history of Donald Trump. He won't even

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Speaker 1: pay his own legal bills, his bills, let alone other

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Speaker 1: people's bills. So how do you think that is going

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Speaker 1: to go? Just the TikTok here, which is basically like

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Speaker 1: a time by time and initial description, is just a

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Speaker 1: colossal waste of money. Crystal in one point to this

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Speaker 1: online point, there's more than a seventeen million dollar deficit

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Speaker 1: in this campaign to find new donors. So it's just

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Speaker 1: a total waste. They've basically tried this far flung strategy

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Speaker 1: didn't work. Now in the crunch time, they don't have money.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was talking with some people. They actually

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Speaker 1: said they're like, look, put candidate equality aside. If we

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Speaker 1: lose the Senate. This has just as much to do

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Speaker 1: with it then just pure candidate quality. I hate to

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Speaker 1: say it, but political fundraising works. It works very very

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Speaker 1: well television and more. A lot of old people watch it,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of them are motivated by it. The

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Speaker 1: big dynamics in this election continue to be the national

792
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: factors we're talking about. This is an exacerbating issue for

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Speaker 1: the Republicans, and they keep saying, well, we spend all

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Speaker 1: this money early, so that's why we're behind the eight

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Speaker 1: ball here. But that's actually makes things worse because if

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Speaker 1: you spend all this money early and your candidates are

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Speaker 1: still down in the polls, like, okay, so what did

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Speaker 1: you do that was such a bad investment. And they

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Speaker 1: have the numbers, I mean, the center Republicans they had.

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Speaker 1: Originally it looked like they had a gigantic war chest.

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Speaker 1: They had collected one hundred and eighty one point five

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Speaker 1: million dollars by the end of July. They're way ahead

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Speaker 1: of the Democrats. But now they've spent ninety five percent

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Speaker 1: of that and it's not a Republican party issue. The

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Speaker 1: House arm it's doing fine, no problem fundraising wise. Obviously

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Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell's pack they're also flesh with cash and this

807
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Speaker 1: really they are loving this. He and his people, Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I mean they're loving this whole thing because

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Speaker 1: there were all these noises in the primary of this

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Speaker 1: person and that person. I'm not going to vote for McConnell,

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Speaker 1: speed for majority leader. Oh, I don't like Mitch McConnell.

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Speaker 1: He's not a good leader, et cetera, et cetera. And now,

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Speaker 1: as we showed you with Blake Masters, they are completely

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Speaker 1: dependent on the war chest that McConnell has a mass

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Speaker 1: because this is a disaster. And I think you're right, Like,

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Speaker 1: there's a few things. There's a few things that this

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Speaker 1: seems to smack of. First of all, yes, the like

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Speaker 1: MBA brain, the rich arrogance of like, sure, people have

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Speaker 1: been doing political fundraising for decades, in decades, but I

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Speaker 1: know how to do it differently, and I know how

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Speaker 1: to do it better. So there's number one. There's like

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Speaker 1: the rich guy NBA arrogance. There's also the fact that

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't. He's also got some like rich

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Speaker 1: guy laziness. He's out there, like on his super yacht

825
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Speaker 1: in Italy rather than here trying to fix what is

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Speaker 1: a massive problem that he ultimately created. And then the

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Speaker 1: third thing is this guy's the like noted fraudster, and

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Speaker 1: that comes out in the tactics that they're using too,

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Speaker 1: which are also a problem for them because they've really

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Speaker 1: burned their own fundraising base. One scheme I'm going to

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Speaker 1: read from a bit of the article. One fundraising scheme

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Speaker 1: that was used by the Senate Committee involves sending an

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Speaker 1: estimated millions of text messages that ask provocative questions like

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Speaker 1: should Biden resign, and then they would say reply yes

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Speaker 1: to donate, and those who are I guess would immediately

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Speaker 1: have a donation process. So you think you're just like, yes,

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Speaker 1: food should resign, and then meanwhile they're hitting your bank

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Speaker 1: account right then and there. So that has meant that

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Speaker 1: their refund rate. So the percentage of people who are

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Speaker 1: saying I didn't mean to give this money, you better

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Speaker 1: send this back to me is way higher than on

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Speaker 1: the Democratic side. They have six point six percent of

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Speaker 1: direct individual donations the cycle which are having to be refunded.

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Speaker 1: That compares to the equivalent committee on the Democrats side

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Speaker 1: only one point sixty seven percent. Because they're using these

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Speaker 1: like super aggressive, really shady tactics and burning their own

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Speaker 1: fundraising base. So you have a situation now which we'd

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Speaker 1: cover before, where Democrats, as is typical in as you

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Speaker 1: get closer to a miterm election, grassroots fundraising increasing increases

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Speaker 1: as your base gets more excited, more focused on what's

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Speaker 1: going on. Republicans going in the opposite direction. I think

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Speaker 1: in part because of the way that they have been

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Speaker 1: burned by some of these tactics, and also by the

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Speaker 1: way that Trump really abuses the donor list and where

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Speaker 1: they're most enthusiastic about him above anything else. Really, and

856
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: another one that always pisses me off. Let me just

857
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: read you this. Gary Kobe, Trump's longtime digital director, is

858
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: an advisor to the committee, widely seen as the man

859
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: behind the scenes of influence of the current digital operations.

860
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: Two of his companies, Direct Persuasion, a digital agency, and

861
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: Open Sesame, a texting firm, have been paid four point

862
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: six million dollars combined. Two others he has promoted, Direct

863
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: Send and red Spark Strategy, have received another nine point

864
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: two million. So they take your money and then they

865
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: give it to themselves. And there's a lot of houses

866
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: on the Potomac, mansions in the plane and elsewhere that

867
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Speaker 1: are being paid for, boats, Nantucket vacation homes getting paid

868
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Speaker 1: for off of Listen. You know, you may want to say,

869
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: who amongst us really does reply to these text messors like, yes,

870
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: Biden should resign. However, they're Americans too, they don't deserve

871
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: to be defrauded, and that's what their money is being

872
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: put towards. It's just totally outrageous. They're literally stealing their money,

873
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: and they are worst doing damage to the cause that

874
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: they raise that money supposedly to do anything about. So

875
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: this is just a total like cluster. It's a huge

876
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: problem for many of the senators in the many Senate

877
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: candidates in the battleground states, and they are very much

878
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: making it known. I didn't know Rick Scott was quite

879
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: hated this much, because that's the other piece. I think

880
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: they're clearly sat with him. Yeah, clearly there's a lot

881
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: of leaks coming out of all quarters. I think it's

882
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: not just this Crystal. Remember whenever he put out his

883
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: plan to like tax medicare, I think that pissed a

884
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: lot of people off because they're like, why are you saying,

885
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 1: like shut them? Yeah, like shut up. They're like, yeah,

886
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: obviously we agreed, but don't say it for God's sake. Yeah,

887
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: that did not endear him to the national Republicans. And

888
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: so I do think it's important to say we're going

889
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: to get into like the Rick Scott, Midge McConnell like

890
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: tension in a minute, the Republican Civil war here. But

891
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: I do think it's worth keeping in mind that, Yeah,

892
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: they have these fundraising issues. Yeah, it's disgusting the way

893
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: they're burning their own base. This tactics were so aggressive

894
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: that win Read, which is the primary like online fundraising

895
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: platform for the Republican Party, they banned them from using

896
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: these tactics. Like fundraising is always gross and there are

897
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: level there are various levels of grossness that you can

898
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: go to, and there is no doubt that people across

899
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: the political spectrum abuse these tactics and like prey on

900
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: people who usually older people who don't really understand what

901
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: they're getting into. I see this with my parents, who

902
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: are more prey to these sort of like scans that

903
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: they'll get on their phones and stuff like that. So

904
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: this is definitely a bipartisan phenomenon. But this particular tactic

905
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: was so shady that even the Republican specific fundraising platform

906
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: was like, no, this is too far. But the bigger

907
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: problems continue to be with the candidates, with Dobbs, with

908
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 1: Trump being central to the election, there's clearly a lot

909
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,959
Speaker 1: of the dynamics that's going on here is people trying

910
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: to throw somebody else under the bus for what is

911
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: shaping up to be at the very least a disappointing

912
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: election cycle for Republicans. But there's also no doubt these

913
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: money issues are real in our actually an issue absolutely,

914
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: and to that feud, let's get to that. Put this

915
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: up there on the screen. Rick Scott is now explaining

916
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: his quote strategic disagreement with Mitch McConnell over the Senate. Basically,

917
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: he is upset because he says that McConnell has been

918
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: quote trash talking Republican candidates. In reality, here's what happened.

919
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: McConnell said a very specific and not untrue thing, which is, hey,

920
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Speaker 1: if we lose the Senate, candidate quality could be a

921
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: part of that. That's it. That's basically all he said.

922
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Speaker 1: And here's what he gave it an interview, which is

923
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Speaker 1: a real shot across about Senator mcconnill and I clearly

924
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: have a strategic disagreement. We have great candidates. He wants

925
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Speaker 1: to do the same thing I do. I want to

926
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Speaker 1: get a majority. I think it's important that we're all

927
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: cheerleaders for our candidates. And it's all because of that

928
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: comment that we brought you guys earlier from August, when

929
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: McConnell said, hey, look it's possible candidate quality has a

930
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: lot to do with the outcome, and what it points

931
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 1: to is that Scott is upset because of the leaks

932
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: that are coming out about his strategy. He's upset about

933
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Speaker 1: the fact that he has been and bad mouth. Also,

934
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: you know, this gets to what I just referenced earlier,

935
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: where we should remember that whenever Scott put out his

936
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Speaker 1: idiotic plan to like privatize Social Security and raise taxes

937
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: on the middle class, McConnell is the one who shot

938
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Speaker 1: it down. He was like, no, I have no affiliation

939
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: with that. And when Rick Scott went to the podium

940
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Speaker 1: to describe his plan, mcconnom actually left the press conference

941
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: to make clear he's like, I have nothing to do

942
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: with this at all. And that's exactly the feud which

943
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: is basically breaking out. Let's put this up there are

944
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: the super yacht leak, although absolutely he took quite personally,

945
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 1: and that I'm confident came from Republicans who were legs

946
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: threw the yeah, we're going to get him. Put the

947
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: Hill tear sheet up there because it describes as well,

948
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: which is that McConnell has privately raised doubts for months

949
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: about his party's roster of Senate candidates and the chances

950
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: of recapturing control of the Senate, and those concerns apparent

951
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 1: Scott has begun to dig in his heels. Scott in

952
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, also is Penning. He wrote a

953
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Speaker 1: new op ad for The Washington Examiner where he accused

954
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: quote the very people responsible for losing this Senate last

955
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: cycle of trash talking our Republican candidates. Now, first of all,

956
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: the person responsible for losing the Senate last cycle, his

957
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: name is Donald Trump. So I mean, look, McConnell has

958
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: something to do with it because he refused to pass

959
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: the two thousand dollars checks. But I mean, let's be honest,

960
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: it's not like he is the sole determiner of that.

961
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: And Trump had a hell of a lot to do

962
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: with losing the Senate season. I don't think Rick Scott

963
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: was really like upset about not passing the I'm sure

964
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Speaker 1: he was on board with that, say point, I didn't

965
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: even think about that. I bet you. I don't even

966
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: have the time right now, but if anyone wants to

967
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: go out on Google, I would be willing to bet

968
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: he was on record as against as against the checks

969
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: in the first place, or one of the people saying that,

970
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, we should go against it, kind of like

971
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: David purdu did until he flipped locked whenever he was

972
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: running for really just tells you what you need to

973
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: know in terms of what that was politically popular at

974
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: the time. So clearly there's a lot of Washington wrangling here,

975
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: but I just think overall it is a pathetic view

976
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: of the mediocrity of the top echelons of the Republican Party,

977
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: of the people who are supposedly such fantastic business managers

978
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: and others scamming their own voters. Meanwhile, Trump is sucking

979
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: up all of the real grassroots dollars. And if you

980
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: are a Republican who pretends to care about the Senate,

981
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: your money is being chronically mismanaged. And if you're a

982
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: Republican who supposedly hates Mitch McConnell, this mismanagement has made

983
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: McConnell more powerful than ever because his super pack is

984
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: now the one that gets to dole out the real

985
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: big dollars, that gets to be the deciding factor in

986
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: these reasons. That is right now. One thing I want

987
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: to say about the candidate quality issue, because part of

988
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: why this is getting pinned on Scott is because oftentimes

989
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: Republican like the Republican Senatorial Committee has gotten involved in

990
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: these primaries and they have picked a candidate that they want,

991
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: and I think McConnell and others thought that work. Scott

992
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: should have done that to, you know, short circuit, potentially

993
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: doctor Oz or Herschel Walker or JD Vance or some

994
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: of these other candidates who are seen as a not

995
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: of the highest quality. Right. I can't really blame Scott

996
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: on that front, though, because how are you like, I

997
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: just don't think it would work to go up against

998
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: whoever Trump endorses what the Republican base voters are going

999
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: to be like. Oh, but Rick Scott says that I

1000
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: should go for whatever that dude's name was over doctor Oz.

1001
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: I don't think that he really had a choice in

1002
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: the matter, and he would have ended up the Republicans

1003
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: would have ended up just like putting their impotence on

1004
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 1: display if they tried to go head to head against

1005
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: Trump in some of these matchups. So on that piece, again,

1006
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: I think the blame lies entirely with Donald Trump. And

1007
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: I you know, I'm not really like in the mood

1008
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: to defend Rick Scott now or at any point in

1009
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: my life, but I don't really think that part is

1010
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: his fault, absolutely correct, Okay. And then finally, this is

1011
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: a data point which you know relates and overlays on

1012
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: top of this. Let's put this up there, which is

1013
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: that this is from a CEO of a voter turnout operation. Quote.

1014
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: In my twenty eight years analyzing elections, I have never

1015
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: seen anything like what's happening in the past two months

1016
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: of American politics. Women are registering to vote in numbers

1017
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: I have never witnessed. And this plays out in terms

1018
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: of what we've seen from the special elections, but more

1019
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: importantly what we saw in Kansas, which is that a

1020
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: huge portion a number of women, far more than outside

1021
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: the norm came out to register to vote in order

1022
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: to make sure that they could vote in that referendum.

1023
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: So to have here the explosion of women registering to

1024
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: vote and tie it specifically to the Dabbs decision and

1025
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: just see the spike that has come after that is

1026
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: undoubtedly going to have an impact in the election. Will

1027
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: it mean a Democratic victory, I don't know, Probably not.

1028
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: Will it have an impact in some of the swing races,

1029
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: I would say yeah, probably, and especially down ballot ones

1030
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: and most importantly the gubernatorial races, where Doug Mostriano. You know,

1031
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: people forget in Washington we talk about Doug Mastriano and

1032
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: stop with Steel. In Pennsylvania they're talking about abortion. In

1033
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: Michigan with Tudor Dixon. You know, here we're talking about

1034
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 1: Mike Pence and Betsy Davas Whitmer, she's talking about abortion.

1035
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: This is basically the same in every single swing state

1036
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: where there is a gubernatorial election where the Republican has

1037
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: taken a position which is outside of the row consensus,

1038
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: which shows you it is going to be potent in

1039
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: drawing out those votes. And maybe maybe they don't vote,

1040
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, nationally, but odds are they probably do. If

1041
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: they're going to come out to vote at the state

1042
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: by state level, it will have an impact. And I

1043
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: think that watching those numbers, there's just no way that

1044
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: you can say, given that, you know, in general, women

1045
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: vote mostly for Democrats, and especially these types of women

1046
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: most likely going to be voting Democratic, that this is

1047
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: going to be a boon to them. Not saying it's

1048
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: going to rescue, but it can lessen the margins. Yeah.

1049
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: So in this is the numbers regarding Kansas in the

1050
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: six months before Dobbs, women outnumbered men by just three points,

1051
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: so very close. Basically, even among new voter registrations after jobs,

1052
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: that gender gap skyrocketed to forty points. Wow, from three

1053
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: points to forty. Now Kansas is an outlier because you

1054
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: did have this very direct vallid insie and this was

1055
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Speaker 1: what people registering to be able to vote on and

1056
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Speaker 1: Target Smart had put out. And this is, by the way,

1057
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Speaker 1: this is a democratic aligned group. So just keep that

1058
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: in mind in terms of their data. But they're relied

1059
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Speaker 1: on as like, you know, sort of the deepest data

1060
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: analyst on the democratic side. They went through state by

1061
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: state and they found the more direct a tie there

1062
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: was to like, my vote equals abortion access, the more

1063
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: of a gender gap you had in terms of women registrants.

1064
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Speaker 1: So it's like very direct in states where there's not

1065
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Speaker 1: as much like in New York, where there's not as

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00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: much angst about abortion access, and people feel like, Okay,

1067
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: this is relatively protective. We've got democratic legislature. In all likelihood,

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00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: we're going to continue to have a democratic governor. There

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00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: hasn't been this massive gender gap. The more directly you see,

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00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: like my vote is about abortion, the higher the gender

1071
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: gap ultimately is. So that's number one. And they also

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00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: had some numbers from that special election in New York

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00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: where abortion was a central issue. This was pat Ryan

1074
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: versus Mark Malnaro, true swing district. Biden won it by

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00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: one and a half points. Pat Ryan ultimately is able

1076
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: to win by a little bit more even than Biden

1077
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: was able to win in that district. They said the

1078
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: same thing. Among the male and early votes cast in

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00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: the district, women outnumbered men by an eighteen point margin.

1080
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: So that spike in women voting and being motivated alone

1081
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: likely accounts for pat Ryan being able to prevail in

1082
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: a very difficult part of New York in a really

1083
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: swing district against who, you know, quite a credible and

1084
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: quite a well liked Republican candidate in that region. And

1085
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: the other reason that this has really shifted the grounds

1086
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: in terms of the election is previously suburban white women

1087
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: in particular, we're moving towards the Republicans on issues around schools,

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00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: especially yes and crime, and I think there were a

1089
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: couple other things that were sort of you know, pushing

1090
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: them more towards the Republican Party. That's why Glenn Youngkin

1091
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: is able to prevail in the gubernatory election was because

1092
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: a lot of shifts from white suburban women who voted

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00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 1: for Biden because they want to to vote against Trump,

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00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: and then they kind of swing towards We're swinging towards

1095
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: Republicans because of schools and COVID and other issues. Well,

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00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: now they're coming back to the Democratic Party camp, perhaps

1097
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: not in as high in numbers as they were there

1098
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, but starting to rival that type of momentum.

1099
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: And you know that's putting aside the money issues for

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00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: Republicans and all these other things. This is clearly where

1101
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: the ground started to shift for them. Absolutely correct. Okay,

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00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: let's move on to the next block. We've got some

1103
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: interesting updates on Ukraine and then our friends across the

1104
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: pond have a new prime minister. Let's start with our

1105
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: politics first. Let's sat this up there on the screen.

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00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: President Biden is seeking an additional thirteen point seven billion

1107
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: dollars for Ukraine as USA to the war torn country

1108
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: is quote running out. As a reminder, we've already appropriated

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00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: forty four billion. It is part of a forty seven

1110
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 1: billion dollar emergency spending request. Now of the thirteen billion,

1111
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: it's actually important that we dive into it because again

1112
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: media is not doing this. Now. Most of this money

1113
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 1: is for new way weapons and ammunition equipment, intelligence support,

1114
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: and direct budgetary support in order to shore up Ukrainian

1115
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: government's finances so that it could continue to ask for

1116
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: foreign direct investment. Zelensky, by the way, we'll be ringing

1117
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: the New York Stock Exchange bell this morning remotely and

1118
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: a campaign for foreign direct investment into the country. We

1119
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: are literally shoring up and backstopping their debt and their

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00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: economy so that they are able to not just use

1121
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: our money, but also to buy weapons with that. So

1122
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: it's like a secondary form of financing. Now, the important

1123
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: thing about this here is that also much of this

1124
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: money also is needed in order to buy back multiple

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00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 1: stocks of ammunition and weapons that we need to replace

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00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 1: the stocks that we have sent to Ukraine. I've laid

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00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: out here specifically how it takes in some cases two

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00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: to three years. Stinger missiles, for example, are literally not

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00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: in production, so they take two or three years in

1130
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: order to make them. So the stocks that we have

1131
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: sent over there, we're now at one fourth stock. Same

1132
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: whenever it comes to some with the howitzers and other

1133
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: rounds of ammunition, literally not available right now and won't

1134
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: be back in stock for two to three years as

1135
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: a result of production. But I think it's just always

1136
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: important to put it in context of all of the

1137
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: European powers, the extraordinary extent to which the United States

1138
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: has been giving aid to Ukraine. Let's go ahead and

1139
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: put this up there on the screen. So when what

1140
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: we see here is by total bilateral aid, now this

1141
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: one shows it by GDP, which I also do think

1142
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: is important. What it shows you here is that the

1143
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: United States, while yes, has spent less percent of its

1144
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: GDP in order to support Ukraine, and to be fair,

1145
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: the Baltic States actually are stepping up. What you see

1146
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: in the foreign ad to Ukraine by country is that

1147
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: we are outspending these people to an extent that is

1148
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: genuinely difficult to describe in multiples. So just to give

1149
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: everybody an example, now, on military assistance alone, the United

1150
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,439
Speaker 1: States States has spent twenty five billion dollars so far

1151
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: in terms of what we're giving to Ukraine. No other

1152
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: country comes even close to one fifth of that save

1153
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: for the UK in military assistance, and now we are

1154
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: adding an additional eight billion, again more than double what

1155
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: every other country in all of Europe has appropriated there.

1156
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: So when you look at the sheer military number and

1157
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: you just try to understand the extent to which we

1158
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: are the ones shipping the vast majority of the weapons

1159
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: to this area, you then see the extent to which

1160
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: we should, frankly, then be able to tell the Ukrainians like, hey,

1161
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: do this, don't do that, because you literally won't exist

1162
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: without us. We should have far more of a diplomatic

1163
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: role in either trying to bring this thing to the

1164
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: close or not. But second, to describe this as some

1165
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: sort of allied mission is ludicrous. Whenever the UK and

1166
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: Poland are UK and Poland are the only two countries

1167
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: in the entire NATO alliance to even pony up more

1168
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: than a billion dollars in military aid, and we are

1169
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: outspending them in our brand new appropriation by eight to

1170
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: one in most of these cases. And it is not

1171
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: in doubt at all that Biden will get the money

1172
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: that he's of course he'll get this out, Jackson, Mississippi

1173
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: doesn't have water to drink, but we can, you know,

1174
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: thirteen point seven billion more dollars to Ukraine. And there's

1175
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,919
Speaker 1: not even like there's no doubt it will go through.

1176
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: This is Package number I don't know, fifteen sixteen something

1177
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: like that really, And the part that bothers me the

1178
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: most isn't even like the supporting any of that. The

1179
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: issue for me is like, what is the plan? Is

1180
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: this just what we're going to do forever? Just like

1181
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: a you know, a ten billion there, twenty billion there.

1182
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: You know, we were the last big appropriation. The idea

1183
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this is the same. This is going

1184
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: to give them the tools they need to be able

1185
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: to have this counter offensive and be able to push

1186
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: rush around and really show what they're made of. Well

1187
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: that is all fallen completely by the wayside, and now

1188
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: we see to just be in this sort of endless

1189
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: all right, We're just gonna every month or so send

1190
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: them another fifteen billion dollars and not really talk about

1191
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: it or not really talk about where we're headed with

1192
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: any of this. And I will never get over the

1193
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: fact that there was a potential peace plan that was

1194
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: basically negotiated and put on the table. When former UK

1195
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: Prime Minister Boris Johnson travels to Kievan says no, we

1196
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: do not want this, and the we there is definitely

1197
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: the UK and the US because we have been a

1198
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: solid alliance in our approach to this war the entire time.

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01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: Now you are nowhere close to having any sort of negotiation,

1200
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: any sort of diplomacy that could potentially break through this.

1201
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: Now you have Zelenski saying very clearly they want to

1202
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: not just go back to where they were before this invasion,

1203
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: but they want to retake all of Ukraine, including Crimea.

1204
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: So we have gone so far backwards and the only

1205
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: strategy here seems to be to continue to send tens

1206
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: of billion dollars in aid every couple months to Ukraine

1207
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: in purpose. Yeah, and look, how is the summer offensive going.

1208
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 1: Here's what we got so far. So it's mixed news.

1209
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: Apparently the Ukrainian offensive has at least at least prompted

1210
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: the Curson occupiers to pause the poll on joining Ukraine.

1211
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 1: You'll recall that the Russian state said Strussing state media

1212
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: said there was a plan in Curson in order to

1213
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: have a referendum, and that that fake referendum would then

1214
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: be used in order to justify like an official annexation

1215
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: and some sort of quote democratic legitimacy as to their occupation.

1216
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: For now that has been paused. Now from what I

1217
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: can see, there have been at least two towns. Now,

1218
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: this is according to the Ukrainians that say that they

1219
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: have had counter offensive success. The Russians are saying that

1220
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: that isn't true. How do we know the truth? No,

1221
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: that's the answer. We're not on the ground. However, there

1222
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: have not been any quote unquote decisive victory as to

1223
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: the actual battle itself. Like, there's a lot of misinformation

1224
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: and propaganda really coming out from what we can generally

1225
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: see the fact that Russians had deposit that's probably not good.

1226
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: Therese interesting report out this morning the Russians apparently buying

1227
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: a lot of weapons and ammunition from North Korea, which

1228
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: is probably not a good thing whenever you have to

1229
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: stoop to the lowest level on the planet in order

1230
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: to try and go buy weapons. Though, to be fair

1231
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: the North Koreans they do have a large stock bile

1232
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: and they definitely do need the money. So from what

1233
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: we can see putin the Russian military and them are

1234
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: trying to keep the war effort going but also not

1235
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: disrupt Russian life even more. Yeah, not doing conscription. There's

1236
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: a peace in the Times. The lead story today, which

1237
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: is basically in Moscow, the war seems like it's world's away.

1238
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: It's kind of like us in Iraq. We were like

1239
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: vaguely aware that it was happening. Most people here supported it,

1240
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: and to the extent that people turned on it, it

1241
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: took years of a lot of suffering, you know, thousands

1242
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: of people dead. And that's in a democratic society with

1243
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: quote unquote free media. Not that the media was all

1244
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: that great at that time, but anyway, in Moscow general

1245
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: support people are like, yeah, fine whatever. The Russian people

1246
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: as well, and Putin is trying very much in order

1247
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: to keep these two worlds apart from each other as

1248
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: long as possible. Fascinating, a little bit of a dynamic,

1249
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: but beyond that, it does show you though that, you know,

1250
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: if this is what we got for forty billion, and

1251
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: we'll see, you know, I hope they have a decisive victory,

1252
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: we'll see. I highly doubt it. But if they are

1253
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: unable to do that, and then we have to keep

1254
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: shipping thirteen billion more, twelve billion more and again and

1255
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: again and again, and then the rest of the European

1256
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: powers are just sitting on their hands doing nothing. How

1257
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: much longer are we going to just simply be riding

1258
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: them a blank check. Where then if this passes, this

1259
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: will be a total more than fifty billion dollars appropriated

1260
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: to the Ukrainian military effort in total. Then again we

1261
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: have to answer the question of what what is our

1262
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: end goal? At what point do we say no more?

1263
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: You know, at what point do we tell zones like, sorry,

1264
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: you can't have anymore, You'll be giving you fifty billion dollars? Yeah,

1265
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: you got to You got to figure this thing out

1266
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,439
Speaker 1: on your own, like the American people have done so much.

1267
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: The Western home monologue is on this. The economic damage

1268
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: alone on this to the West is probably well over

1269
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: trillion dollars at this point. The UK today is talking

1270
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: about one hundred and seventy billion pound bailout just for

1271
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: its small businesses on energy bills. Yeah. So it's like

1272
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: this cascade is all the way down, and that's what

1273
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: we're about to talk. This is with the new like

1274
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: Margaret Thatcher, Accolyte three market whatever. Yeah, and even with

1275
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: this new prime minister, they're still thinking like we might

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Speaker 1: have to do a bailie. There's no question because that's

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Speaker 1: how dire the situation is. Right, Okay, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: Liz Trust. So let's go and put this up there

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Speaker 1: on the screen. Last night, the news broke British Conservative

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Speaker 1: Party members have chosen Miss Trust the quote hawkish foreign

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Speaker 1: minister foreign secretary, sorry over Rishi Sunak, who is the

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Speaker 1: Chancellor of the Exchequer. She will take over the country

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Speaker 1: in a quote serious economic crisis. And from what we

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Speaker 1: have seen this morning our time, Miss Trust went over

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Speaker 1: to balmorle Castle in Scotland and officially was I forget

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Speaker 1: the exact process, but having watched the I know something

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Speaker 1: involves kissing the hand and becoming the leader of Her

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Speaker 1: Majesty's government. So Boris Johnson has I believe, resigned at

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Speaker 1: this point in the show, gave a speech, a farewell speech,

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Speaker 1: warning about the economic crisis, about the problems ahead. Liz Trust,

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Speaker 1: having been the Foreign Secretary under Johnson and having been

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Speaker 1: intimately involved in Ukraine policy, that's probably what matters the

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Speaker 1: most for our purposes. Now, don't have to take a

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Speaker 1: genius when even the New York Times is describing you

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Speaker 1: as the quote hawkish foreign secretary. In general, we're going

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Speaker 1: to see a continuation of UK policy. Maybe they can

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Speaker 1: ship some weapons over to Ukraine under this government instead

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Speaker 1: of bailing out their own businesses. However, more importantly again

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Speaker 1: is that the posture of the UK government, which there

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Speaker 1: were possibilities of change in terms of some of the

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Speaker 1: other candidates who are up for grabs, really is not

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Speaker 1: changed at all in terms of how the angle sphere

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Speaker 1: will be presenting itself and towards the conflict with Russia.

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Speaker 1: Michael Tracy found this insane portion of a Q and

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Speaker 1: A with Liz Trust about her willingness to use nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 1: We forget that, you know, Britain is of course a

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Speaker 1: nuclear on power. Here's what she had to say. Now

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Speaker 1: here's another question. One of the first things, and very briefly, Frank,

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Speaker 1: one of the first things that will happen, when then,

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Speaker 1: if you become Prime Minister, you'll be ushered into a

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Speaker 1: room very privately at number ten, will be laid out

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Speaker 1: in front of you what are called the letters of

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Speaker 1: last Resort, your orders to out triedent boat captain. On

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Speaker 1: whether you Prime Minister Trust is giving the order to

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Speaker 1: unleash our nuclear weapons, it would mean global annihilation. I

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Speaker 1: won't ask you, would you press the button? You will

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Speaker 1: say yes, But faced with that task I would feel

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Speaker 1: physically sick. How does that thought make you feel? I

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Speaker 1: think it's an important duty of the Prime minister. I'm

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Speaker 1: ready to do that, or else would make you feel

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to do it? List trust, thank you for

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Speaker 1: those answers and gentlemen, this trust. I mean, I would

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Speaker 1: just hope for a little bit more empathy or like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's the most solemn responsibility a leader can have. Of course,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, in the defense of our nation,

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Speaker 1: Like even I could give a better answer than we

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Speaker 1: would do everything we possibly could was the leader of

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Speaker 1: the UK, I would do everything to defend our homeland

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Speaker 1: and only in the defense of our most horrific times

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Speaker 1: would we even consider it. We will never get to

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Speaker 1: that great ye, whatever we can bo But also what

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Speaker 1: a weird question, strange question British media is I know

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Speaker 1: you do it? How would you feel about it? Wait?

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Speaker 1: What the way that they question their politicians over there

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Speaker 1: is insane? Also their laws are nots you know, in

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Speaker 1: terms of they have this whole thing where you can

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Speaker 1: basically if you have enough complaints against you, the government

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Speaker 1: can investigate you OXFAM or whatever it's called. I remember

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Speaker 1: this whole thing whenever the Piers Morgan Megan Markle thing

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Speaker 1: was going down. So anyway, sorry, UK, you actually don't

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Speaker 1: have nearly enough of the free press as we do.

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Speaker 1: You know, even though they're going to protest, I'm also

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Speaker 1: just going to say this, and y'all can call sexist

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Speaker 1: or whatever, but there is a problem with these like

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Speaker 1: neoliberal type women wanting to prove that there is tough

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Speaker 1: and it's like a neo cons Yeah it is. It's Hillary.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you see like there's a pattern of this.

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Speaker 1: They got to prove that there is like war mongering

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Speaker 1: as the dudes, and so I think that's also part

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Speaker 1: of what you see there. And she's been extremely hawkish

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Speaker 1: in her language when it comes to Ukraine as well.

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Speaker 1: So listen, I mean, we shouldn't delude ourselves that the

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Speaker 1: war that is going on in Ukraine started by Russia,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But we have fully joined as

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Speaker 1: a proxy partner here and the UK has been our

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Speaker 1: primary backup and support. They have been our ally in

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Speaker 1: the way that we want to prosecute that war. France

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Speaker 1: and Germany wanted a different approach. They were much more

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Speaker 1: in favor of diplomacy. Mcrano course was on the phone

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Speaker 1: constantly with Putin trying to keep them at the table,

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Speaker 1: and we in the UK blew it up. So no

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Speaker 1: doubt about it that she is going to continue to

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Speaker 1: be a full partner. And whatever it is that Biden

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Speaker 1: wants to do with regards to this world is what

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Speaker 1: she said in March quote putin must lose in Ukraine

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Speaker 1: as the Foreign Secretary of the UK, making it very

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Speaker 1: clear here what the posture will be. In fact, people

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Speaker 1: are saying that she could not only double down but

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Speaker 1: increase British support to Ukraine. And here's my thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: in terms of their positions and all that, you can

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Speaker 1: have position whatever you want, but then you need to

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Speaker 1: pony up and you need to be a major actor

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Speaker 1: in the conflict. And they're not, let's be honest. I

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Speaker 1: mean they are, if anything, some sort of client state

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Speaker 1: of ours. You know, Johnson going over there, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it was on his own behalf or on ours.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what those conversations look like. I'd be

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Speaker 1: willing to bet there probably was some input on our side.

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Speaker 1: We just seem to be taking this very odd like backseat.

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Speaker 1: But also interventionist pol see which is the worst of

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Speaker 1: all worlds, right, which is that you're basically writing a

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Speaker 1: blank check to a foreign government. No foreign government is

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01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 1: ever going to act purely on your interest. And then

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Speaker 1: we don't seem to be really taking any steps in

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Speaker 1: the other direction. And then we're letting these Euros basically

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Speaker 1: sit on their hands and do nothing bailing out their

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Speaker 1: own people, and we're supposedly stepping up and doing all

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Speaker 1: of the military assistants. I mean, you know, if it's

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Speaker 1: so important to you that you're willing to spend in France,

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Speaker 1: Germany and Britain's case hundreds of billions of euros or pounds,

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Speaker 1: then you would want to see some sort of requisite

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Speaker 1: step up. If it's so existential, then you do something

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Speaker 1: in Ukraine as well. And yet I don't see I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't see them as the ones driving the train

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Speaker 1: here at all. Like I said, I mean, they wanted

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Speaker 1: a different approach, and we basically were like, no, take

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Speaker 1: the same. Yeah, it's very hypocritical on their one hundred percent. Well,

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Speaker 1: and she says she wants to increase their defense, well,

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Speaker 1: then do it so we can send less. So I

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Speaker 1: think you know, she's happy to go even further in

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Speaker 1: terms of hawkishness than Boris Johns and so yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: ultimately probably very much the status quo prevailing here, both

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Speaker 1: in terms of economic ideology also in terms of foreign

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Speaker 1: affairs ideology. Nothing much appears to have changed. That's right, Well,

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Speaker 1: we have a good news story, yeah, we do. So.

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Speaker 1: Last week I brought you some details about some pretty

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Speaker 1: bold policy moves that are being made in the state

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Speaker 1: of California, and one of those that I personally am

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Speaker 1: very excited about is a move towards what is called

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Speaker 1: sectoral bargaining. So the TLDR is right now, as you know,

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Speaker 1: if you want a former union, if you want to

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Speaker 1: be able to collectively bargain, it is shop by shop

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Speaker 1: by shop. We see this with Starbucks right now, where

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Speaker 1: they're having to win election election election. You see with Amazon.

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Speaker 1: You got one warehouse, there's another warehouse that just filed.

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Speaker 1: It is tedious, it's painstaking. The game is rightd well.

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Speaker 1: In some limited sectors of the US, but mostly in Europe,

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Speaker 1: they take a different approach where wages and working conditions

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Speaker 1: are literally set by sector, hence the name sectoral bargaining. Well, California,

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Speaker 1: let's go and put this up on the screen. Their governor,

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom has just signed a bill that they describe

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Speaker 1: at axioset increases wages for fast food workers up to

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Speaker 1: twenty two dollars per hour and what labor advocates are

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Speaker 1: touting as a groundbreaking step for low wage workers. So

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Speaker 1: the details here right now, California's minium wage laws set

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Speaker 1: at fifteen dollars an hour, and actually fast food workers

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Speaker 1: in California already earn a little bit more than that

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Speaker 1: on average. They have just passed a bill that will

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Speaker 1: set up a ten member board with representatives from government, business,

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Speaker 1: and from labor that will across the fast food industry

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Speaker 1: for large chains larger than one hundred locations, set the

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Speaker 1: wages and some working conditions. Now, there were a couple

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Speaker 1: pieces that were left down of this as like, ASoft

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Speaker 1: to industry, they're not setting paid sick leave conditions, as

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Speaker 1: one example, and they're also not making it so that

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Speaker 1: the corporate corporate overlords are responsible for if the franchisees

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Speaker 1: fall short. So there were a couple of things here

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Speaker 1: brought in to sort of like moderate this for business.

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Speaker 1: But ultimately this is a huge deal. Fast food workers

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Speaker 1: in California are now across the board going to have

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Speaker 1: you know, representments who bargain for them and achieve likely

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01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: much better situation than they have now. Also, this is

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Speaker 1: really being touted as a model for other states potentially,

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Speaker 1: and you've seen this, you know, California is that the

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Speaker 1: because it is such a large state and such a

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Speaker 1: large economy, they have been trendsetters previously in terms of policy.

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Speaker 1: So you have Mary Kay Henry, who's the international president

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Speaker 1: of the SCIU, saying we want California to be the

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Speaker 1: first in the nation as it is in so many fronts,

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01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: and be able to spread this to other states. So

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01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: clearly this is a new goal of labor and really

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01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 1: marks a very different approach to sort of like worker

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Speaker 1: corporate relations. And it's quite quite interesting. I think the

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Speaker 1: other context here is that labor unions have never been

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01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: more popular than they are right now, seventy one percent

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Speaker 1: support in the last Gallop poll. So that's why I

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Speaker 1: mean Gavin Newsom is a you know, he's got his

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01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: finger in the wind and he's looking at presidential inmbas

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01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 1: and fast food industry is very upset about this bill,

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Speaker 1: lobbing hard against it, spending lots of money to try

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Speaker 1: to prevent this from ultimately happening, and he ultimately looked

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Speaker 1: at the polls and said, nah, I got to go

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Speaker 1: forward with this and signs it into law, even though

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Speaker 1: it was quite unclear that he would do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it does suck though, from what I was saying about

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Speaker 1: the fact that the national McDonald's and all of them

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Speaker 1: won't be responsible for the wage and pushing it out

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Speaker 1: of the franchise owners. I hate that because it actually

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Speaker 1: pits them against Yeah, it make you know, these franchise

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Speaker 1: guys they're making you know, in some cases like one

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Speaker 1: hundred grand a year. These are not like multi milliares.

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Speaker 1: Some of them are multimillionaires, but they're more much more

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01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: kin to like a small business person. So the fact

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Speaker 1: that they would have to step up at not national

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01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: to you know, who are the people making all the

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Speaker 1: money and are essentially functioning as like real estate companies

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Speaker 1: who are multi billionaires. That's terrible. That being said, though,

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Speaker 1: sector bargaining is an interesting model and bringing it back

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01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,799
Speaker 1: makes it so that you have representation at the table

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Speaker 1: and having the council makes it so that they're are

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Speaker 1: better working conditions, and also you can make it more

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Speaker 1: flexible in the future. So of course, the ten person

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Speaker 1: council can adjust up and down based upon market conditions.

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Speaker 1: You don't have some of the contract problems that happened

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Speaker 1: at UAW and elsewhere that you know, led to some

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01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: of the problems at GM and at Ford. So I

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01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: think it's a great model. I think it's interesting. And look,

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01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: I think it's so very, very desperately needed in terms

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01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: of the fact is the wage gap that we have

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01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: has never been higher. And more importantly, did that monologue

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Speaker 1: on nineteen seventy one, the ability for the median wage

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01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: to not pay an the media, not even some of

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01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: these people to even give you a tempt, you know,

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01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 1: not even a chance of access to home ownership, to

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01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: any of these other you know, barometers of success in

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01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 1: American life. We have to change that somehow. I do

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01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: think this is a very important step, that's right. And

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01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: the other thing in terms of I mean, it just

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01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: sets uniform labor costs and conditions across the industry, so

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01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,440
Speaker 1: you don't have that race to the bottom of employers

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01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: trying to cheap out and trying to you know, get

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01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 1: an edge that way. So everybody sort of got a

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01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: uniform standard across the board. And just I mean, the

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01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: thing that to me is a really transformation idea is

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01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: having service workers, are fast food workers, having these be

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01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 1: reasonably well paid jobs where it can actually live and

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01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: support yourself. That is absolutely revolutionary. Remember, factory jobs were

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01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: not always good middle class jobs. They were dirty, they

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01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: were dangerous, they were low paid, they employed children. It

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01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: was the union movement that made these okay, the bedrock

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01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: of the middle class and sort of middle class prosperity

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01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: in America. So being able to move towards that for

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01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: the sectors that are growing in this country, which is

1514
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, if you look at the top few occupations,

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01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 1: it's like cashiers, it's fast food work, and its pink

1516
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: collar jobs, especially like home healthcare, aids and things of

1517
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 1: that nature, which are only going to continue to be

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01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 1: critical and grow to make those decent jobs. That is

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01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: to me extremely extremely exciting. Even as we acknowledge like

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01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: we want to bring back more industry, when I have

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01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: more of that industrial capacity as well, not just for

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01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: the middle class base, but also for national security and

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01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 1: a whole lot of other reasons as well, I think

1524
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: that's right. Christ What are you looking at well, And

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01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: I'll say this, if there's a prosecution of Donald Trump

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01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: for miss handling classified information after the Clinton debacle, which

1527
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 1: you presided over and did a hell of a good job.

1528
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: There'll be riots in the streets. Senator Graham made a

1529
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 1: lot of ways with his cynical threat there that a

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01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: Trump indictment would lead to riots in the streets. The comments,

1531
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: in my opinion, were rightly seen as an attempt to

1532
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: bully the Justice Department out of charging Trump after Trump

1533
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: and his legal team failed to come up with a

1534
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 1: legal argument that would protect him from prosecution over some

1535
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: of the very same crimes that he was so eager

1536
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 1: to lock Hillary Clinton up over. But it is worth

1537
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: asking the question, is Lindsey Graham Wright, what will actually

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01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: happen if Trump is in fact and dieted. After all,

1539
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: even some of those who were sympathetic to Trump on Russiagate,

1540
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: like Andrew McCarthy, now believed that the government is planning

1541
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: to pursue a case against Donald Trump, at least on

1542
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 1: the Marrol Lago documents. Biden's big speech could be seen

1543
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: as helping to build the public case for an indictment

1544
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: of the man he sees as leading a movement that

1545
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: is beyond normal political disagreements. And remember that's not even

1546
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: close to the only investigation that Trump is facing race

1547
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,440
Speaker 1: in it right now. He's also facing DC based investigations

1548
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: into his January sixth actions and his fake elector scheme.

1549
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 1: A Fulton County, Georgia grand jury is also looking at

1550
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: the Georgia fake elector scheme. What will it look like if,

1551
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: after all of these years, the walls actually close in

1552
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,799
Speaker 1: on Trump? So first, let's talk about the overall American

1553
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: public reaction. Judging by the polling, a majority of the

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01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: public would in fact back such an indictment. According to

1555
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: new Quinnipiac poll by a thirty three point margin, Americans

1556
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,480
Speaker 1: believe Trump acted inappropriately in his handling of these documents.

1557
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: Sixty four percent believe the allegations against Trump regarding the

1558
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: documents are either very serious or somewhat serious. Fifty percent

1559
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: say that they are already convinced Trump should be charged,

1560
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: while forty one percent are against it. That's to say

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01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 1: nothing of the nearly six to ten who believe trum

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01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 1: should be indicted for his actions related to January sixth.

1563
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 1: And that's also without even knowing directly what was in

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01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,919
Speaker 1: those documents or why Trump held onto them after attesting

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01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: that he had turned everything over. As more details emerged

1566
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 1: and Republicans leave Trump without his typical course of affirmation,

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01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: I can only see those numbers going up. But of

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01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: course there will be plenty who will view this not

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01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: as an application of the law, but as a politically

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01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,759
Speaker 1: motivated attack of the Biden Justice Department on his political opponent.

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01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: Justice thousands bought every lie about stop this steal and

1572
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: became genuinely convinced that the election had in fact been stolen,

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01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 1: and then, encouraged by Trump, became convinced that it was

1574
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: their patriotic duty to break into the Capitol on January

1575
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 1: sixth to try to stop what was in their view

1576
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 1: and assault on democracy. If Trump encourages them in that

1577
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,919
Speaker 1: direction again, we certainly could have riots in the streets,

1578
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: just as Graham predicted. Given that already at least one

1579
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: lunatic tried to murder FBI agents over this whole thing,

1580
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 1: I think it'd be the height of naivete to rule

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01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: out all political violence. These threats of violence, of course,

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01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: aren't not a reason not to move forward with a prosecution.

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01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 1: If it's justified to be deterred by potential riots or

1584
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 1: apostle law enforcement assassinations would mean letting the violent mob

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01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: run the country. In the same way, I don't want

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01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: public health officials psychoanalyzing the public to determine what facts

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01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 1: we can and can't handle. I similarly don't want Justice

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01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,839
Speaker 1: Department officials trying to babysit or micromanage the public sentiment.

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01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 1: Nor do I buy all the civil war talk that

1590
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,839
Speaker 1: is apparently in fashion in some corners of the Internet.

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01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: Following the mar A Lago raid, a bunch of right

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01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: wing commentators insisted that the raid meant literal war, but

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01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: apparently by war, what they actually meant was continuing to

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01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 1: host their podcasts and give their paid speeches. There was

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01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: a spontaneous protest outside of mar A Lago, but it

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01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: remained completely peaceful, and thankfully the attempted FBI shooter was

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01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 1: killed before he could murder anyone. In other words, recent

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01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: history says it might not be pretty, but the country

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01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: can survive the fringe extremists who follow every one of

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01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 1: Trump's actual or implied demands. I would say, in terms

1601
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: of threats to democracy, allowing elites to go on crimes

1602
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: freeze with or accountability, that is a much scarier issue now.

1603
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 1: The last piece to contemplate here is whether Trump is

1604
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 1: actually going to end up in prison. Trump being let

1605
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 1: out in handcuffs has been a central theme in liberal

1606
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 1: fantasies for years now, and yet it still kind of

1607
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: blows your mind to think that it might really happen.

1608
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: In fact, it feels impossible. In the American justice system,

1609
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 1: you're usually safe when you bet on the side of

1610
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: the one percent getting away with their crimes. But Trump's

1611
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: polite society card has been pulled. So on the one hand,

1612
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: he's obviously receiving extraordinary deference as the former president. On

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01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 1: the other he has not entirely welcomed the full elites

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01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 1: club these days. According to the unsealed search warrant, the

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01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 1: government is actively investigating Trump pursued to three criminal statutes

1616
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: related to the Espionage Act, obstruction, and ensuring documents. The

1617
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: most serious of those could land you in prison for

1618
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 1: up to twenty years. Not that I feel confident even

1619
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: such an extraordinary outcome would be enough to kill Trump's

1620
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,839
Speaker 1: political career. Legally, he could technically run for president from prison.

1621
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 1: Eugene Debs did it in nineteen twenty and claim nearly

1622
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 1: a million votes. Trump's lead jeopardy has been pushing independence

1623
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: away from Republicans, but with his base, Trump has only

1624
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 1: gotten stronger. Certainly, whether he ran or not, he would

1625
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: continue to dominate our politics as the next presidential election

1626
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 1: be fought on the grounds of whether he'd get a

1627
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 1: pardon or not. So riot since Street or not, there

1628
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: is no avoiding an ugly future here. I wonder what

1629
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: you make of Graham's comments there and what would actually

1630
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: and if you want to hear my reaction to Crystal's monologue,

1631
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: become a premium subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot Com. All right, sago,

1632
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: what are you looking at? Well? Everyone, if you haven't noticed,

1633
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: it's getting colder just a little bit. In fact, here

1634
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 1: on the East coast or in Montana where I just was,

1635
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 1: it's positively lovely. But as anyone who's cursed with four

1636
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: season understands well, the price of a pleasant fall is

1637
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: the impending blackness of winter. That is especially true in Europe,

1638
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 1: where Americans really do tend to forget how far north

1639
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 1: the entire European continent is. On a map. Consider this,

1640
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 1: The capitals of the UK, France, and Germany all lie

1641
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: so far north. In latter tid not one of them

1642
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 1: line up with a single American city. Europe is really

1643
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: far north now before meteorologists get mad. Yes, I know

1644
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: there are many other factors through European weather that help

1645
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: it remain hotter than its North American counterparts, including the

1646
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: Gulf Stream. But I still think it is important for

1647
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: those of us here to just sink let it sink in.

1648
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: Things are very different over there. It's a different place

1649
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: across the Atlantic. And why the timetable I'm about to

1650
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 1: lay out matters so much. Every single day that ticks

1651
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 1: by brings us closer to more energy demand in Europe

1652
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: as it gets colder, both for industrial capacity to run

1653
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: as normal and for consumers who need power to heat

1654
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,719
Speaker 1: their homes. It's exactly here, at the most vulnerable point.

1655
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: The idiocy of Western policy towards Russia and decades of

1656
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: cowtowing to green idiocy is teaching the entire globe a

1657
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 1: valuable lesson for decades to come. The news came over

1658
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: Labor Day weekend that Gasprom, the Russian energy behemoth which

1659
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,480
Speaker 1: delivers natural gas to Europe, will further reduce its shipments

1660
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: to the continent. Blame the stoppage on a so called

1661
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: maintenance issue, but the announcement for a further reduction and

1662
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: cuts just so happened to occur hours after the G

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01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 1: seven agreed to implement a price cap on Russian oil.

1664
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: Formerly The news sent another seismic shock across the European continent,

1665
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: where while this was still expected, still sent natural gas

1666
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:21,799
Speaker 1: prices again soaring by twenty six percent, sparking major questions

1667
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: what is this winter going to look like? For some

1668
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: of the largest economies on Earth, and especially for the

1669
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 1: main powers the UK, Germany and France. In the UK,

1670
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: signs of major societal dysfunction are beginning to show. UK

1671
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: residents are seeing a staggering eighty percent increase in annual

1672
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 1: household energy bills, bringing the yearly cost to a total

1673
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: of thirty five hundred pounds a year. For context, the

1674
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 1: average household income in the UK is just thirty one

1675
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 1: thousand pounds, meaning that ten percent of household pre tax

1676
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 1: income in the UK is going to energy alone. The

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01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 1: most insane thing about this is that isn't even the

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01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: market price. That is just what the government will let

1679
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 1: the power people charge with the true price cap, meaning

1680
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: the real cost is many many more times that worst

1681
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: it could just be the beginning of things to come,

1682
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,640
Speaker 1: from rolling blackouts in the UK to further increases in

1683
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: price caps, with each individual hike meaning massive pain to

1684
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: the average household, to small businesses like local pubs across

1685
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 1: the UK, which are already in danger of closing and

1686
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: perhaps even requiring Parliament to spend untold billions of pounds

1687
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 1: in pandemic relief to try and survive. Those who work

1688
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: with poor households in the UK say that the rise

1689
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: in price is leading to the biggest drop in living

1690
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: standards in the country in more than fifty years. In France,

1691
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 1: they are facing the same catastrophe. Already, businesses across the

1692
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 1: second largest economy in Europe are required to cut their

1693
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: energy use by ten percent or face government enforced rationing

1694
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:56,560
Speaker 1: of electricity and gas. Furthermore, the government is appointing is

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01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: forcing companies to appoint quote energy sobriety minutes, whose sole

1696
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 1: job is to encourage municipalities and industry to reduce demand.

1697
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: More Already, schools in Normandy France are literally heating their

1698
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: classrooms with wood in a shining emblem of their failed policy.

1699
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: France is also a cautionary tale. The country has dozens

1700
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 1: of nuclear power plants and it should be able to

1701
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: draw on decades, though it's said they have now had

1702
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 1: incompetence and lack of maintenance, which is leading the majority

1703
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 1: these nuclear power plants to be inoperable at this time,

1704
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 1: meaning they rely on natural gas and needed to power

1705
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: their society through the long winter that is approaching, where

1706
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 1: currently French leaders see two nightmare scenarios. They either institute

1707
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 1: rolling blackouts or they have to use coal fired power plants,

1708
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 1: which are filthy for the environment. Finally, of course, there

1709
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: is Germany, the most idiotic of nations, the most vulnerable,

1710
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: who before the crisis was getting sixty percent of its

1711
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 1: power from Russian natural gas. The country just announced they

1712
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: will need to spend sixty five billion euros to combat

1713
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 1: soaring energy costs, with most of it going to consumer

1714
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: subsidy and industry, who even with the subsidy, are seeing

1715
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:10,600
Speaker 1: huge spikes and power bills and cutting manufacturing output, contributing

1716
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: to inflation and wreaking havoc in their society. So the

1717
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: main three powers and their societies are literally in chaos.

1718
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,639
Speaker 1: Their economies are going into the red. We are entering

1719
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 1: a basic repeat of the Eurozone crisis. At its best,

1720
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 1: So is it working? No, you already know that answer.

1721
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: Russian oil profits are booming regardless of this idiotic, unenforceable cap.

1722
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: The G seven is trying to introduce. Their war effort

1723
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 1: continues to hum along. The Ukrainian military is relatively static.

1724
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 1: Both sides are dug in for years to come. Just

1725
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 1: to show you how especially idiotic this entire thing is.

1726
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 1: The current stage of the crisis was precipitated by the

1727
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 1: official enforcement of that price cap on Russian oil on

1728
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 1: by the European economies. And yet on the very same

1729
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 1: day of the price cap, China and India, which are

1730
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 1: the largest buyers of Russian oil, not only reject the

1731
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 1: cap but are starting to buy even more of it.

1732
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 1: As I've already laid out, If you think we in

1733
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: the West are also still not buying Russian oil, You're

1734
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: a fool. They are just shipping it to Saudi Arabia

1735
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 1: and the UAE. They're building it up or labeling it differently,

1736
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: and then selling it to US at a major premium.

1737
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: You're still buying it, whether it's officially from Russia or not.

1738
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:24,440
Speaker 1: So what are our lessons from this financialized and ideological

1739
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 1: economies are good for profit but terrible for resiliency. All

1740
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 1: that counts in the end is what you hold in

1741
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:32,759
Speaker 1: your hands, where you can pump out of your ground,

1742
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 1: and can you rely on should the rug actually get

1743
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: pulled out from under you. Resiliency, the ability to survive

1744
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 1: a hit and maybe even multiple in a row, is

1745
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: all that matters in the long run. Ideological debates about

1746
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,679
Speaker 1: fossil fuels and high profile so called activists get shoved

1747
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,879
Speaker 1: aside when it looks like people could freeze or society

1748
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 1: could revert to the pre industrial age. In the meantime,

1749
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: don't fool yourself. The clown show will continue. I have

1750
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 1: no doubt the European governments will continue their policy towards

1751
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: Russia sanctioned their own economies. I have no doubt the

1752
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 1: Biden administration will continue to prop up this farce of

1753
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 1: a so called policy which is punishing us, even though

1754
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: it's still to a lesser extent. I have no doubt

1755
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine won't fundamentally change over the next

1756
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,719
Speaker 1: few years, and I have no doubt that New Delhi

1757
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 1: in Beijing won't continue to print money from Russian oil.

1758
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: But at least the clown show we might learn something,

1759
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 1: and history tells us it really isn't all that likely

1760
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: in the short term, but should teach us something in

1761
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: the long run. I mean, by the way, right after

1762
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,440
Speaker 1: I wrote this, Crystal Germany decided they're going to decommission.

1763
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 1: And if you want to hear my reaction to Sager's monologue,

1764
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 1: become a premium subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot com. As

1765
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,719
Speaker 1: we told you last week, Jackson, Mississippi has been without water.

1766
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 1: They actually have been on a boil alert since July.

1767
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 1: The residents of the city have not had clean water

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01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 1: to drink, and this has been a recurring problem in

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01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:57,879
Speaker 1: this city that has gone completely neglected and obviously ignored

1770
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 1: by the media. Jordan Chariton status KUP is with us now.

1771
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,520
Speaker 1: His team has been on the ground talking to residents

1772
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 1: of Jackson, Mississippi about exactly what is going on there.

1773
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 1: Great to see you, Jordan, thanks for having me. Yeah. Absolutely,

1774
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 1: let's go and put we've got your YouTube site there

1775
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 1: up on the screen so people can see your channel.

1776
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 1: You guys are always doing great on the ground reporting

1777
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 1: of critical issues that are being ignored by the media.

1778
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 1: So anyone, if you are able to go ahead and

1779
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 1: subscribe to what they are up to. But Jordan, just

1780
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: give us a little bit of a sense of who

1781
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: you all were able to talk to and what the

1782
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 1: situation is on the ground right now. Yeah. Lewis DeAngelis,

1783
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 1: who's a reporter for US, is down there and kind

1784
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: of just popping around different water distribution sites. Yesterday was

1785
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 1: Labor Day, so folks finally got some time off, the

1786
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 1: folks that are volunteering to kind of rest. But he's

1787
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:55,640
Speaker 1: been speaking with activists who are delivering water, older residents

1788
01:30:55,680 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 1: who obviously are more vulnerable in really hot temperatures without water,

1789
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 1: And it's really a pattern in what we're hearing. I mean,

1790
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 1: he's talking to people who are describing their grandparents watching

1791
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 1: their grandparents boil water in Jackson, Mississippi. So this is

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01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: a generational issue. It's not. Yes, the current situation is acute,

1793
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: but this has been going on for a long time.

1794
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 1: Parts of Jackson have infrastructure over one hundred years old,

1795
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 1: and there has definitely been a race aspect here between

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01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:34,679
Speaker 1: the state government and the white state leadership and the

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01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 1: black leadership of Jackson. Yeah, and I think we have

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01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 1: some footage from there. Let's take a listen to some

1799
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 1: of that. Do you want to just talk about kind

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01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 1: of your situation how the water crisis has been affecting

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01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 1: you here so far. Well, it's very slow and you

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01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 1: can't drink the water. And then I got two young

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01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:53,719
Speaker 1: babies in the house, so of course it's rough because

1804
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 1: you got feeballs, and then you got to, you know,

1805
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 1: be careful of having they even not put the water

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01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 1: in their mouth. And because one of them have allergy

1807
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 1: so bad, you know too, we got to make sure

1808
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 1: that they don't get anything or else they have to

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01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 1: go to emergency rooms. You already had to take them

1810
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 1: to the doctor because the allergy fair are flared up

1811
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 1: since the water I started. And we play our water

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01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 1: bills and I've had i haven't been affected with the

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01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 1: high water bill, but I've had members at our church

1814
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: who are elderly people, so we know they're not using

1815
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 1: a whole lot of water, you know, and they're using

1816
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 1: the same consistent water. And last month your water bill

1817
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 1: might have been forty five fifty sixty dollars, but then

1818
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:40,719
Speaker 1: here you come with an eighteen hundred dollars water bill,

1819
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 1: and that shouldn't be. So I don't drink of water,

1820
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 1: and I'm afraid of drinking water because cat got some

1821
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: kind of disease in it. And I don't want to

1822
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 1: cant no disease, and I don't want to go to

1823
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: no hotel. And I got a huband disabled and I'm disabled,

1824
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 1: and we can't take no chain being sick are going

1825
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 1: to the hot because my human paid for midigos, but

1826
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 1: nat kay don't pay for all he and I've been

1827
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 1: going down getting water, bottle water to take him, me

1828
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 1: and my hut and take him my Animok, oh my god.

1829
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 1: It's just horrific, Jordan. I mean, you know, these are

1830
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: just some of the stories that we were able to play.

1831
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 1: I mean, beyond that, just what does that mean to

1832
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 1: the people in Jackson, Because you were mentioning to us

1833
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 1: before media cameras are leaving. But like, this thing is

1834
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 1: just getting started. It's a lot like Flint in a

1835
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 1: lot of ways, which you cover too. Yeah, it's really

1836
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 1: deja vu to the beginning of Flint in twenty sixteen. Basically,

1837
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 1: you know, this is over one billion dollar problem. The

1838
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 1: infrastructure is very old, you have levees that need repair.

1839
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 1: A surrounding river in this situation flooded. The water treatment plant,

1840
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 1: like most water treatment plants around the country, very outdated,

1841
01:33:56,360 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 1: very understaffed. So it's not just the infrastructure, it's all

1842
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 1: all the surrounding things, and you know, the water plant

1843
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 1: equipment staffing that's problematic, not just in Jackson, all over

1844
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 1: the country, in a lot of major cities. And you

1845
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:16,640
Speaker 1: have a governor Frankly, who has vetoed repeatedly bills that

1846
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 1: would have provided relief to residents for water, bills, would

1847
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: have provided infrastructure upgrades in Jackson. He's even vetoed, you know,

1848
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 1: bills that would provide funding for Jackson's hospitals parks. Seems

1849
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:35,640
Speaker 1: to be an issue where he keeps vetoing relief to Jackson, Mississippi,

1850
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 1: while providing funds for surrounding white suburbs. So, yeah, this

1851
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 1: is a major problem. The federal government, Frankly, needs to

1852
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 1: step in here. There's also the issue, which you know,

1853
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 1: doesn't really get a lot of attention, federal money that's

1854
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: been earmarked for Jackson somehow has been diverted to other

1855
01:34:56,760 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 1: entities and suburbs. This happened in Flint too. A lot

1856
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 1: of people don't realize three one hundred and six one

1857
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy million dollars there was earmark from Congress

1858
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 1: for Flint, very little of that went to Flint, as

1859
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,719
Speaker 1: well as state money. As well as the state money

1860
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 1: that was earmarked for Flint, it was going to foundations

1861
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: and law firms and banks. A lot of boondoggle is

1862
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 1: going on here. So yeah, I think the federal government

1863
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 1: needs to step in here. And the water. They're saying

1864
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 1: the water pressure is back, but that's not consistent throughout

1865
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 1: the city. And then there's the issue of the water quality. Yeah,

1866
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,679
Speaker 1: I mean we covered back in that when the winter

1867
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 1: when we were rising and there was a winter storm

1868
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 1: there that also you know, devastated the city in terms

1869
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 1: of I think there were pipes that were freezing and

1870
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 1: the whole system went down and people were unable to

1871
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 1: drink the water. They were unable to get water at

1872
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 1: that time. So this has been known for years and years.

1873
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 1: You know, it does remind me a lot of Flint,

1874
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: because obviously you have two cities that have been you know,

1875
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 1: basically abandoned by the state, both pool, both largely black.

1876
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 1: What are the residents saying about how this makes them

1877
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 1: feel about, you know, how they're treated by society, how

1878
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 1: they're treated by their state, how they're viewed by the

1879
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 1: nation that they would be so abandoned and neglected that

1880
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:17,680
Speaker 1: it could get to this part to this point, Yeah,

1881
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 1: lewis speaking with a lot of residents. I spoke with

1882
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 1: residents last week, and you kind of hear a similar tone,

1883
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 1: which is just they're used to this. They're used to

1884
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 1: kind of just fighting for scraps. It's sad that that

1885
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 1: has steeped in that kind of complacency, but they're used

1886
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 1: to kind of getting the short end. Jackson is nearly

1887
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:43,599
Speaker 1: twenty five percent poverty rate. There's some people making less

1888
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 1: than fifteen thousand dollars a year. Some folks that Lewis

1889
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 1: spoke with, we're talking about like this might put you

1890
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 1: over the edge to leave, But where do you go

1891
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 1: if you're you know, obviously not making a ton of

1892
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:00,720
Speaker 1: money for your family. But they're used to it. A

1893
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 1: lot of the folks, even young people, know the history.

1894
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 1: You know, after desegregation in schools, there was white flight,

1895
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 1: which cratered the taxpayer base left, you know, the black

1896
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 1: population rising, but the white population shrinking. And this has

1897
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 1: happened in Flint, Detroit. I mean many areas around the

1898
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 1: country where progress in civil rights have left major cities

1899
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:27,719
Speaker 1: really stuck financially, and you also have I mean little things.

1900
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 1: The governor at his press conferences didn't invite the Black

1901
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 1: mayor to stand with him. Until recently, there's been kind

1902
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 1: of this tug of war. The March twenty twenty time

1903
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:42,640
Speaker 1: period you talked about with the last time there was

1904
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 1: a water shutdown, the governor was saying, well, maybe the

1905
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 1: residents should pay their water bills before asking for more help.

1906
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 1: So it's not just the water is poisonous. There's a

1907
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 1: real poisonous climate with government and this governor. On a

1908
01:37:57,200 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 1: broader scale, he's talking about now sending one hundred thirty

1909
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:04,719
Speaker 1: million dollars back to the federal government that was earmarked

1910
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:07,599
Speaker 1: for Mississippi as part of rental relief, saying we don't

1911
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:11,760
Speaker 1: need these liberal handouts. I mean that money would disproportionately

1912
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: go to places like Jackson. And I saw also this

1913
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 1: morning that the governor is suggesting maybe they should privatize

1914
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 1: the water system. How do you think that would work out, Jordan?

1915
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:25,599
Speaker 1: It's working out great in Flint, Detroit, and many other cities.

1916
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Speaker 1: I'm big is that what precipitated Flint? Can you give

1917
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Speaker 1: the background on that yeah, yeah, Yeah, A lot of

1918
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 1: people don't realize a lot of people don't realize Flint

1919
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 1: had gotten its water from Detroit for almost fifty years,

1920
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 1: glacial freshwater from Lake Huron, one of the Great Lakes,

1921
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 1: and local officials in Flint and state officials created a

1922
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,879
Speaker 1: completely brand new water system called the Karagandhi Water Authority.

1923
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:52,599
Speaker 1: In a nutshell, it was going along the same exact

1924
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 1: path as the existing pipeline that Flint got its water

1925
01:38:55,640 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: from with no problem. And this new water system all

1926
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 1: of a public authority, but a lot of private interests.

1927
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 1: Wall Street Banks wrote the bonds and that deal, which

1928
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 1: somehow Flint was allowed to borrow nearly one hundred million

1929
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 1: dollars to join this new water system. That deal precipitated

1930
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 1: Flint using the Flint River in the first place. So

1931
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: this new water system is largely a privatized system. A

1932
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 1: lot of Flint residents government officials actually believed it was

1933
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 1: really designed so that Michigan could frack more because this

1934
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 1: new water system was raw water, which you need a

1935
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 1: lot of that for fracking, whereas the water Flint got

1936
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 1: from Detroit was already treated. So yeah, that privatization was very,

1937
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 1: very prevalent underneath the Flint Well Flint Water prices got

1938
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 1: it well. As always, We're grateful that you all are

1939
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Speaker 1: on the ground speaking with residents and really understanding what

1940
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Speaker 1: this has meant for their life, because that's obviously the

1941
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Speaker 1: most important aspect of the story, and I know that

1942
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Speaker 1: you'll stay on top of it. Jordan. Great to see you,

1943
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thanks, thanks everyone, Thank you guys

1944
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1945
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1950
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1953
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1954
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1955
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1956
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1958
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1959
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1960
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1962
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1963
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