WEBVTT - Smackdown and Rampage - No Spoilers

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 2>By from San Francisco. I'm a Sports Byline Broadcasting network.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with your hosts,

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Alvarez and Mike Sempervv.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get it Mike Sempervv here with you for the

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<v Speaker 3>and if not, hopefully it's sunny inside your mind. It's

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<v Speaker 3>overcast here on Del Marvel, a little bit of rain,

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit humid out here. There's one single gnat

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<v Speaker 3>flying around this room right now that I want to demolish,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm planning on doing that at some point during

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<v Speaker 3>the show. But we have a lot to get into

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<v Speaker 3>as I go about doing that. Here to join me

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<v Speaker 3>and help me out in this process. Filthy Tom Lawler.

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<v Speaker 3>He is here because, of course the Big boss Man,

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Alvarez, takes Fridays off, but he does it for

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<v Speaker 3>a good reason, as he's going to volunteer at his

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<v Speaker 3>child's school, hopefully not teaching anybody math along the way there.

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<v Speaker 3>But we had a lot to get into here. Wwe

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<v Speaker 3>SmackDown live tonight from the AT and T Center in

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<v Speaker 3>San Antonio, Texas. It is completely sold out. We'll tell

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<v Speaker 3>you what's going on there, also what's going on tonight

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<v Speaker 3>on Rampage. And some of you will say, well, Mike,

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<v Speaker 3>I already know what's going to happen on Rampage. It's

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<v Speaker 3>taped ahead of time. I know who these spoilers are. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Number one, we will do no spoilers on this show.

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<v Speaker 3>And number two, if you have not been paying attention

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<v Speaker 3>to your social media, then you would not know that

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Kahan has got an announcement tonight for a dream

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<v Speaker 3>match taking place on the live episode of aw Collision

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<v Speaker 3>on Saturday, so we'll get into what he said about that,

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<v Speaker 3>as well as what's going to be a very busy

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<v Speaker 3>weekend around the world. Not only are those shows tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>of course CMLL has got their weekly show, and then

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<v Speaker 3>also coming up here very shortly, the New Japan Super

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<v Speaker 3>Junior's Tag League kicks off, as well as New Japan's

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<v Speaker 3>return to Las Vegas. We're Filthy Tom Lawler is going

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<v Speaker 3>to bust up some Bulley Club members. I guarantee that

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<v Speaker 3>we'll be back Wrestling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 1>And fifty six forty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live on the Sports

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to the show. Mike simper VV and Filthy

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<v Speaker 3>Red Bull, the Paar cinnamon one. There you go, filthy,

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<v Speaker 3>how are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing great, Mike. I should have gone and grabbed

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<v Speaker 4>my ghost pink lemonade.

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<v Speaker 3>Ghost toast pink lemonade.

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<v Speaker 4>We could have toasted the ghost.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds like it's got alcohol in it, I assume no,

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<v Speaker 3>just an energy drink. Oh okay, yeah, oh wait, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I know that one now. Yes, it's usually sitting over

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<v Speaker 3>there by, like the Starbus c fours and all those

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<v Speaker 3>other ones. I don't grab Red Bull. That's it. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the only one I can tolerate. All the other ones

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<v Speaker 3>are terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>No, just the only the only one that I generally dislike,

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<v Speaker 4>and I I'm upset with myself because I love the

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<v Speaker 4>marketing is G Fuel, but just the taste doesn't hold up.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he does not, And I think the Gatorade guy,

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<v Speaker 3>I like the PDA likee Gatorade they got out. Now

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<v Speaker 3>that's no, no.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no no. G Fuel is not made by GAORID.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a gamer's energy drunk.

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<v Speaker 3>No wonder why I'm not familiar with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Sonic Peach Rings stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, good crossover there, I guess.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of which, Yes, sir, I just picked up the

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<v Speaker 4>Super Mario Brothers Wonder game today. Is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 4>the best two D Mario of all time. But I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know when I'm gonna get to play at Mike

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<v Speaker 4>because we have so much wrestling and MMA action this

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<v Speaker 4>weekend that we shouldn't waste any more time. We should

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<v Speaker 4>probably start talking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>We should, or or Brian's going to get imaginary emails

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<v Speaker 3>that he'll just blabber out on an air that he has.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh, you said, m m A, there, you may

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<v Speaker 3>sure to point that out. I didn't have that on

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<v Speaker 3>my little agenda here with all the wrestling taking place?

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<v Speaker 3>But what has got your attention this weekend? Obviously the

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<v Speaker 3>Paul fight was last weekend. I mean, do you have

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<v Speaker 3>any thoughts on Paul and Danis and then Paul calling

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<v Speaker 3>out in Mysterio two?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I have virtually no thoughts. I have spent no

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<v Speaker 4>brain cells whatsoever on analyzing that matchup. After the fact,

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<v Speaker 4>good Man Della Danis did a good job of selling it,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll say that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's the only thing he knows how to do

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<v Speaker 3>is be a spectacle to himself.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what has my attention this weekend? And I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know why it wasn't on your agenda, because if we

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<v Speaker 4>look at things objectively, this would be the biggest money

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<v Speaker 4>fight of the weekend. Right, whoever's gonna wrestle on SmackDown

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<v Speaker 4>tonight isn't gonna get paid more than Islam Makachev or

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<v Speaker 4>Alexander Volkanowski will for their one battle tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but will be as good as Rocky Romeiro and

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<v Speaker 3>Mistakoono two out of three falls match.

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<v Speaker 4>To be fair, the Islam Makachev and Alexander Volkowski fight

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<v Speaker 4>number one probably was as good as any match that

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna see this weekend. In pro wrestling or MMA.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't imagine that this fight will live up to

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<v Speaker 4>their last fight, which was And I said this to

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<v Speaker 4>one of my friends. I said, you know what, this

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<v Speaker 4>is a top five technical skill level fight in MMA history,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I started thinking, I can't name another one.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think there many technical fights in history not

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<v Speaker 4>on this level, not on the level of Islam Makichev

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<v Speaker 4>and Alexander Volkanowski number one. And I can't imagine that

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<v Speaker 4>it'll be as close or as intriguing as good of

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<v Speaker 4>a fight over twenty five minutes as it was last time.

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<v Speaker 4>But I've been proven wrong plenty of times.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to prove right. Just we won't have the

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<v Speaker 3>time for me to dig back into the archives and

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<v Speaker 3>see if there was a Pride Bushido show or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that that had something that good on there. Well, man,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why I remember Pride Bushido.

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<v Speaker 4>It would be Socaraba and Carlos Newton when they had

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<v Speaker 4>a grappling battle and neither guy was throwing strikes if

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<v Speaker 4>you remember that matchup. But they didn't display all of

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<v Speaker 4>the skills in mixed martial arts that were displayed in

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<v Speaker 4>the first fight between Makachev and Volkanovski. We saw a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of everything good striking what you didn't see in

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<v Speaker 4>Soccaraba and Carlos Newton.

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<v Speaker 3>So what was the ultimate result of this for those

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<v Speaker 3>out there who been out there driving right now or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that. And we have long distance truckers and

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<v Speaker 3>things like that that end up listening to us. So

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<v Speaker 3>if they were on the road all day, or they

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<v Speaker 3>were doing things all day, what was the result.

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<v Speaker 4>Of Soccaraba and Carlos new No. Socaraba won by knee.

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<v Speaker 4>Bar Is Makachev is La. Makachev won a very close

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<v Speaker 4>decision over Alexander Volkanowski in their first fight earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's the biggest fight I think right now that

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<v Speaker 4>the UFC could do. And it's happening on short notice and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's during the day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, two pm Eastern, this pay per view starts, which

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<v Speaker 4>is great if you're an avid day drinker like myself.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be able to get going at seven am for

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<v Speaker 4>the prelimbs.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh goodness, specific time, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and eleven we'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that how you start things? If you're starting the

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<v Speaker 3>day with a beverage, do you go bloody Mary or

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<v Speaker 3>are you able to go beer? Like a double ipa

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<v Speaker 3>right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 4>They have those horrific breakfast beers. We won't spend fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>minutes talking about them.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, we won't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think I'm mighta go with a momo.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean the thing is this is this has

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<v Speaker 3>to do with wrestling too. I mean, look at some

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<v Speaker 3>of these shows that come on now. I mean, Crown

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<v Speaker 3>Jewel is going to be two in the afternoon on

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<v Speaker 3>the East Coast for the people out west, that's a

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<v Speaker 3>morning show for them, you know, a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>brunch and guinness or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Absolutely, I think it makes I enjoy these daytime

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<v Speaker 4>shows a lot more than I do the nighttime shows.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I'm just getting to be an

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<v Speaker 4>old curmudgeon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, or it's a little of it. Yeah, you got kids,

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<v Speaker 3>You're on a normal sleep schedule. Now, I mean that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the way. But there's a look, we

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<v Speaker 3>have to talk about night shows tom because tonight is

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<v Speaker 3>obviously Friday, and that means it's going to be really busy.

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<v Speaker 3>And as I mentioned, WWE SmackDown at the AT and

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<v Speaker 3>T Center in San Antonio sold out thirteen six hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and ninety five as estimated by Russell Ticks. Last time

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<v Speaker 3>WWE was in the building, they did seventy nine to

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<v Speaker 3>fifty eight for Monday Night Raw last year on July seventh. Technically,

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<v Speaker 3>in storyline, this is Nick Aldos's first day on the

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<v Speaker 3>job as the SmackDown General manager. They have already announced

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<v Speaker 3>a women's title match between EO Sky and Charlotte Flair,

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<v Speaker 3>and we have Santos Escobar alongside Carlito and Ray Masterio,

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<v Speaker 3>who will be at his side as he faces Monteese

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<v Speaker 3>Ford in this match. Is going to probably kick a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of tail. He'll obviously have Angelo Dawkins and Bobby

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<v Speaker 3>Lashley in his corner. I mean, both of those matches

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<v Speaker 3>ought to be really darn good, and with how they've

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<v Speaker 3>been doing things where it seems like there's only four

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<v Speaker 3>matches on a SmackDown to take up the two hours,

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<v Speaker 3>both of them are going to get ample time, even

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<v Speaker 3>if we may not like how they end up closing

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<v Speaker 3>those matches.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, hopefully Escobar and Ford get some time. I believe

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<v Speaker 4>Charlotte and EO. You said yes, I can't see them

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<v Speaker 4>getting any less than fifteen minutes, probably twenty on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>All of that action I've seen between those two I've

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<v Speaker 4>enjoyed as well in the three ways the tag team matches.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm looking forward to that one. As far as

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<v Speaker 4>in ring competition goes, maybe we'll see a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of movement forward with the damage Control storyline. Everyone has

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<v Speaker 4>been waiting, waiting, waiting for months, maybe even a year.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems for Bailey to turn on Eosky and it

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<v Speaker 4>just never happens. And quite frankly, I'm okay with that.

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<v Speaker 4>The montes Ford an Escobar match, Like I said, I

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<v Speaker 4>hope that it doesn't just turn into a Schmas or something.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd like to see those guys get a shot at

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<v Speaker 4>each other one on one. And then that leaves plenty

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<v Speaker 4>of time for all nick Aldis to book some swing

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<v Speaker 4>bouts for SmackDown and ruin the lives of the scheduled competitors.

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<v Speaker 3>Some television time remaining bouts from back in the day. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>we had a lot of time remaining, which is good

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<v Speaker 3>because we got a lot to get into, including it

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<v Speaker 3>up date on the Rock in Wressell Maania forty, We'll

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<v Speaker 3>be back Rustling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live on the Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 3>Back on the show, Mike SIMPERBB and Filthy Tom Lawler,

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<v Speaker 3>it is a filthy Friday here on Wrestling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't mention here before we went to break that

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<v Speaker 3>the Rock and Wrestle Maania forty. We have some news.

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<v Speaker 3>You would already know this if you went to the

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<v Speaker 3>front page of the website and saw a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>about what Dave Meltzer has in this week's newsletter. I

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<v Speaker 3>will read it verbatim here quote regarding the stories that

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<v Speaker 3>WWE won't do Rock versus Rains at Mania. If Rock

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<v Speaker 3>wants to do it, what we are told is this,

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<v Speaker 3>if he wants the spot, I can't believe wwee would

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<v Speaker 3>turn him down. But after Johnson turned it down last year,

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<v Speaker 3>nobody is going with the idea he's going to do

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<v Speaker 3>it this year. That's how it's written. I got a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more. The match is not scheduled, unlike at

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<v Speaker 3>this time last year when the match was considered a

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<v Speaker 3>good shot. The belief is that Johnson will have plenty

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<v Speaker 3>of work once the strikes are over, and he'll have

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<v Speaker 3>plenty to do. What we were told is Rock is

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<v Speaker 3>not going to come back and win the title. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>never anticipate that would be an issue, as if the

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<v Speaker 3>match was to happen, I always figured Rains to win

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<v Speaker 3>and Rock then retiring in the ring. End quote. Aside

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<v Speaker 3>from a six second squash of Eric Rohan at WrestleMania

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<v Speaker 3>thirty two, Dwayne the Rock Johnson has not wrestled since

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<v Speaker 3>facing Johnson in the main event of WrestleMania twenty nine

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty thirteen. He made a surprise appearance on SmackDown

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<v Speaker 3>alongside Pat McAfee in September and took part in a

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<v Speaker 3>segment with Austin Theory and had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>an interaction with John Cena. So, Bothy Tom Lawler, we

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<v Speaker 3>have lots of options. Actually you could say we have

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<v Speaker 3>lots of options. I see one option as a still

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<v Speaker 3>rat right now, it is Cody Rhodes to face Roman

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<v Speaker 3>Reigns at WrestleMania. But what say you do you think

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<v Speaker 3>at this point it's going to happen? And I got

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<v Speaker 3>I guess more than that, because I gotta be honest,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care to see it necessarily. I don't care

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<v Speaker 3>if he comes back or not at this point. But

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<v Speaker 3>does the Rock do you care about this? Does it

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<v Speaker 3>matter at this point or do people want to see Cody.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike after the Rock at WrestleMania thirty nine ghosted the WWE.

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<v Speaker 4>I could care less about seeing him wrestle It's been

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<v Speaker 4>ten years. I think it's time to give the rightful

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<v Speaker 4>member a shot to take on Roman Reigns in the

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<v Speaker 4>main event of WrestleMania. Now, you could have Cody Rhodes

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<v Speaker 4>challenge on Night one and once again come up short,

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<v Speaker 4>and then night two you set up the big return

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<v Speaker 4>Roman Reigns defending against the long lost family member Luther Reigns.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of setup, but as far as I'm concerned,

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<v Speaker 3>it was worth it. That's a deep cut right there. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>without old Horseshoe Luther Rains. Do you believe is? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you believe you're gonna have two Roman Reigns? But would

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<v Speaker 3>you want to see two Roman Rains matches?

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<v Speaker 4>Or?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the women obviously got pushed out of the

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<v Speaker 3>spot last year because Sammy's ain was so over and

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<v Speaker 3>you had that going on where it was Sammy and

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin against the USO's. That really was the right match

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<v Speaker 3>to make the main event. Ria Ripley, Bianca bell A

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<v Speaker 3>or Rhea Ripley and whoever. Let's say, you know on

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<v Speaker 3>Night one, would that wouldn't that still make more sense?

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<v Speaker 3>Or do you do a thing where you know again

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<v Speaker 3>Roman Reigns would open the first night of WrestleMania then

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<v Speaker 3>close the next one.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think we're getting one Roman Reigns match that

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<v Speaker 4>was simply for the setup of the joke that I

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned Roman Reigns would wrestle twice. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>This is older than a lot of the listeners. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember that time.

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<v Speaker 4>When I look at the layout, I mean, Cody Rhods

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<v Speaker 4>versus Roman Reigns is the only match that I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 4>confident is scheduled for that future WrestleMania. Maybe you get

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<v Speaker 4>something along the lines of also Kevin Owens taking on

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<v Speaker 4>Sammy z Ain. You know, Seth Rollins probably will be

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<v Speaker 4>involved in some way in that other title situation. And

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<v Speaker 4>other than that, I don't really see, you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't see the cards. I don't see the future layout

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<v Speaker 4>of next year's WWE. We have La Night taking on

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<v Speaker 4>Roman Reigns, which was made official today I believe for

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<v Speaker 4>Crown Jewel, and it looked like the direction was in

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<v Speaker 4>that way anyway, So I'm not surprised, but they're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have to be really careful about what they do as

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<v Speaker 4>far as this finish of this match goes. Obviously, La

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<v Speaker 4>Knight is hotter than virtually anyone that I can remember

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<v Speaker 4>in recent times. I mean, if you ask Brian Alvarez,

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<v Speaker 4>he say John Cen is hotter than anyone. But other

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<v Speaker 4>than La Knight and Sammy Zain over the past year,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't remember two people of the crowd has been

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<v Speaker 4>behind more in recent memory than those two guys. So

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<v Speaker 4>you don't want to take any of the scheme off him.

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<v Speaker 4>But clearly the plan is not for La Knight to

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<v Speaker 4>be the long term champion or even a short term champion.

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<v Speaker 4>I would think, you know, this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is I guess subjective depending on how you view somebody

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<v Speaker 3>after a loss, but one thing that they've been really

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<v Speaker 3>good at during the Roman reigns his reign has been

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<v Speaker 3>and again this is some of this is because there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of goodwill built up for these people from

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<v Speaker 3>the fan base. But Bobby Lashley multiple opportunities or teases,

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't win it. He's not less over. Drew McIntyre

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<v Speaker 3>was not less over from winning Sammy's ain was not

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<v Speaker 3>less over. Sure they lost some off the fastball along

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<v Speaker 3>the way, but Kevin Owens a great example, how many

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<v Speaker 3>shots did he have? I mean, that's one that's even

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<v Speaker 3>woven into the storyline that they have with Kevin Owens

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<v Speaker 3>with how many times he had a shot and there

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<v Speaker 3>was some sort of nonsense that ended up screwing him

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<v Speaker 3>over and out of the way. And that's what they

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<v Speaker 3>could do right here with La Knight is have that

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<v Speaker 3>type of interference because I'm sure they have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of confidence in themselves that they can continue to keep

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<v Speaker 3>this storyline moving and continue to keep guys strong who

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<v Speaker 3>weave in and out of it. So I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 3>they're probably thinking that. As you mentioned, it was revealed

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<v Speaker 3>by Houston Mitchell in the Los Angeles Times. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I like Houston Mitchell very very much. It has been

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<v Speaker 3>a long time contributor to the Wrestling Observer newsletter. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it feels like this was, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>everything that they fed this story to him. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>not any surprise that we're talking about La Knight and

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<v Speaker 3>rains for Crown Jewel because that's what we've been assuming

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<v Speaker 3>the whole time. There's also seth rollins against Drew McIntyre. Honestly, Tom,

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<v Speaker 3>I think by the time it gets to WrestleMania, we

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<v Speaker 3>will have Drew McIntyre as the top mail leader in

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<v Speaker 3>the Judgment day. The boss of that family is Mommy

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<v Speaker 3>and it will remain Ria Ripley. But I believe Drew

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<v Speaker 3>McIntyre is going to be in the Judgment day, Damian

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<v Speaker 3>Priest will be out of the Judgment Day, and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>by that point one of the two will be the

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<v Speaker 3>champion on the Raw brand and that could be a

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<v Speaker 3>match we see. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>I am not an avid viewer of Raw? Is that

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<v Speaker 4>something that they've been moving in the direction of. I

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<v Speaker 4>know that they've been teasing a Drew McIntyre heel turn.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what it's based around. Is really Jay Uso

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<v Speaker 3>being mac and everybody telling him he has to drop it.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason that I theorize this is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you got JD McDonough there. He's cool, but he's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the leader of that group. There's no

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<v Speaker 3>badass of that group once Damian Priest were to leave,

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<v Speaker 3>So it just seems to make sense. That's a good

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<v Speaker 3>place to kind of slide Drew. You keep the group strong,

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<v Speaker 3>You keep Drew strong because he's in a strong group,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you have a strong opponent with Damian Priest

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<v Speaker 3>and somebody to work off of.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it makes great sense actually, And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Drew McIntyre's essentially been the same Drew McIntyre for years

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<v Speaker 4>and years. At this point, he's great in ring. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not like, believe me, that wasn't a knock on Drew

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<v Speaker 4>McIntyre at all, because he's one of the best things.

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<v Speaker 4>He's one of the best things on in the WWE.

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<v Speaker 4>He's phenomenal in ring. He's he looks great, but he's

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<v Speaker 4>essentially had the same character for years and he needs

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<v Speaker 4>a change. The only difference I guess would be when

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<v Speaker 4>he was in the team was Shamus, you know, but

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<v Speaker 4>really he was still the same guy. So I think

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<v Speaker 4>this is a needed change and it'll give a you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot more depth. At the top of the raw

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<v Speaker 4>main event, he'll scene now who is there now, Knakamura?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, right now, it shouldn't skate knock right, it's the

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<v Speaker 3>judgment day as a group, you know, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean from there it does get kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>spread around a little bit. It just kind of depends

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<v Speaker 3>on who you like. I mean, Gunther stands out as

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<v Speaker 3>he's almost really away from everybody right now because everything

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<v Speaker 3>is about Chad Gable and he's operating in his own

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<v Speaker 3>little universe where he's feuding with his own subordinates as

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<v Speaker 3>much as he's really feuding with anybody else.

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<v Speaker 4>And if they can build to Chad Gable winning that

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<v Speaker 4>Intercontinental title in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be a good crowd to do it in

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<v Speaker 3>front of, either that would make Chad Gable. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>for as much as people love Gunther, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>there are a lot of people, I think they are

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<v Speaker 3>loving Chad's you know, his his run to the belt.

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<v Speaker 3>They love the chase, but they may not necessarily, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>pop the way they want him to. I think on

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<v Speaker 3>a thing, Philadelphia would be a perfect place for that.

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to mention here this. I gotta get

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<v Speaker 3>your opinion. WWE's opened up a lot more seating for

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<v Speaker 3>the Survivor series coming up in Chicago at the All

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<v Speaker 3>State Arena. The new setup accommodates fifteen three hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>forty two. It's an addition of nearly twenty eight hundred seats.

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<v Speaker 3>They've added official platinums, which is what they call the

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<v Speaker 3>first four rows of any section, that are three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and one hundred and seventy five dollars. The seats priced

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<v Speaker 3>behind there are forty. Tom Moon, we get back from break,

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of want your opinion on number one, WWE

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<v Speaker 3>being this hot. Number two is the door truly closed

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<v Speaker 3>on cmpunk coming in and being at that show. Now

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<v Speaker 3>get your thoughts on that, as well as a whole

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<v Speaker 3>lot more we need to get into. On Wrestling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 3>Back on the show, Mike semper vv filthy, Tom Lawler

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<v Speaker 3>here with you Wrestling Observer Live, and as I was

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<v Speaker 3>trailing off to break last segment, I was talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that WWE has opened up a bunch more

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<v Speaker 3>seats inside the All State Arena because of demand. They

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<v Speaker 3>are jacked up and set for this thing. So filthy,

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta ask you, even though all of the reports

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<v Speaker 3>seem to indicate cmpunk will be nowhere around, I am

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<v Speaker 3>sure a lot of the people that will probably fill

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<v Speaker 3>all twenty eight hundred of these new seats. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>believe whatever this show is is not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>completely sold out no matter what they open it up to.

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<v Speaker 3>At this point, are any of that? Is there going

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<v Speaker 3>to be any disappointment? Is there going to be any

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<v Speaker 3>disappointment if he is not there? Obviously you can fool

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<v Speaker 3>people at the end and give them something that they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't expect, or have some big, booming, awesome thing going

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<v Speaker 3>off the air that will kind of distract from that.

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<v Speaker 3>But do you think the average man who may not

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<v Speaker 3>be listening to this show and who's not tuned into

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<v Speaker 3>newsletters and all this stuff, they're really gonna believe he's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be there. I, for.

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<v Speaker 4>One, Mike will be disappointed if Siam Punk's not there.

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 4>I think he would be a welcome addition to WWE.

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:42.159
<v Speaker 4>I would love to see him back on television. I

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 4>don't know if that'll be the place that happens. Recent

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:52.160
<v Speaker 4>reports would seem to indicate otherwise. But when you slap

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<v Speaker 4>on some three hundred dollars ticket prices to get in

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:59.440
<v Speaker 4>the door up in the cheap seats, then you know

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:04.120
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna have speculation run wild. And we've seen if

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 4>nothing else in the past, that Siampunk can work with

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:13.440
<v Speaker 4>the new owners of WWE. Maybe not. He's not known

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 4>for being chummy in pals with Triple H necessarily, but

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 4>he does have a good relationship with Dana White Endeavor,

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 4>who are the owners now WWE, so perhaps they can

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 4>open up that door a little bit. If not, it's

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 4>been rumored that we're getting the Judgment Day versus Bloodline

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 4>and some sort of capacity over the past few months.

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 4>There's not a whole lot of time to set that up.

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 4>They did some work last week on SmackDown, which I

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 4>thought was one of the best episodes I've seen in

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 4>a long time. The season premiere of SmackDown was very

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 4>intriguing the way they added a lot of elements into

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 4>the main event storyline with the Bloodline, although things have

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 4>already changed after the season premiere of Raw and the

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 4>title changes. However, that does leave the Judgment Day back

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 4>on SmackDown where they can mess with Paul Hayman once again.

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 4>They could, you know, strum up some beef with Roman Reigns.

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 3>Strum up some beef a you know, maybe Tony Khan

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.719
<v Speaker 3>has got some beef strung up and that's his big plan. Mey,

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:33.959
<v Speaker 3>who knows who he could be breaking out for this

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 3>dream match that he's talking about. I have a theory,

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 3>really now, hold on hold that theory there for a second,

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 3>because I'll set this up for everybody who has not

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 3>been to the front page of Wrestling Observer dot com

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 3>and seen what Joseph Courrier has posted up there about

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Tony Khan planning a dream match for this Saturday's episode

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 3>of AEW Collision he hyped on Twitter. I assume that's

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 3>what that link is going to because it's it's Tony Khan.

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 3>It's got to be Twitter. Uh. He's got a dream

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 3>match in store for this week's episode of Collision. It

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 3>is obviously the opponents that have been announced yet it

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:12.719
<v Speaker 3>is going to be revealed on Rampage tonight. What is

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 3>your theory on this about who could be in this?

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 3>And will it be a meat slapping affair?

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 4>I think what Tony Kahan's got in his back pocket

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 4>is what the people have been waiting months for. It's

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 4>going to be me against Adam Cole.

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 3>At the hospital when.

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't think I don't think I'm gonna be beating

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 4>up mister Glass anytime soon. But when I think of

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 4>Memphis wrestling, you think of Jerry King Lawler, Yeah, obviously, Yeah,

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 4>what I think of Nick ca Monroe dream matches we

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 4>could get down there in this area. My mind immediately

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 4>goes to the Young Bucks and the Rock and Roll Express.

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 4>And I looked at Cage Match and I noticed that

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 4>old Robert Gibson he actually wrestled within the past couple

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 4>of weeks hmmm. And he's been somewhat active over the

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 4>past few months, even teamed up with Ernest Miller apparently

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 4>at an event in Franklin, Georgia. He had a singles

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 4>match early this year too. So that's my guess. I

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 4>think we're getting, and if it's not the Bucks, maybe FTR.

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 4>But I think we're getting the rock and Rolls.

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 3>We've seen FTR and rock and Roll, So that's why

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 3>you know what that look. I'm sure a lot of

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 3>people listening just rolled their eyes at the thought of

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 3>that because either they don't like the Young Bucks or

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 3>they're not trying to see the Rock and Roll Express.

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, I would be absolutely all for that.

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 3>That would be actually really cool. Obviously, the School of

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Morton down there in Tennessee runs shows and is doing

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 3>their thing. They're the Ricky Morton school, so that only

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 3>makes sense to me. I'm actually all for that, and

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, all aw stuff obviously starts tonight with Rampage

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 3>and as I said, we won't be doing any spoilers here,

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 3>but the Fort Bend Epicenter in Rosenberg, Texas Greater Houston

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 3>where they taped Dynamite or this was taped after Dynamite

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 3>Best two out of three falls, the completely the completely

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 3>official and authentic affair. Mystico faces NWA Historic World Welterweight Champion,

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 3>that is Rocky Romero, who's going to be appearing on

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 3>this show this coming Wednesday. We have the Blackpool Combat

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Club of Claudio in Wheeler, Utah against Brian Keith and

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Exodus Prime. That's actually a pretty cool team right there.

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 3>Ruby Soho takes on sky Blue and then a three

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 3>way number one contenders match for the international title brothers

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 3>Ay John Still and Kip Sabian. So that is the

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 3>lineup for tonight, and any thoughts on Mystico and Rocky

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Romero here going into that match.

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 4>I believe we are getting the authentic, official CMLL version

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 4>of Rocky Romero here. So it won't be the best friends,

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 4>hugging it out, fun loving guy, the Rocky Romero and

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 4>CMLL is the top heel, the most hated wrestler right

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 4>now in Mexico.

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 3>Bro He and Bolador had one of the matches of

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 3>the year, really did.

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 4>He's had quite a few matches down there that were

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 4>spectacular and any fan of professional wrestling should be watching

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 4>his work over the past I guess six months to

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 4>a year down in Mexico. But this is how long

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 4>has it been since the US audience has seen this

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 4>mystico in action. It would be back when he was

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 4>Sinkara in like the first Incarnation.

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 3>And he got off to such a I mean, you know,

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 3>off the trampoline on that first night that didn't go

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 3>well that they had to tape over. He never got

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 3>a foothold here. And I think while people probably loved

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 3>the lamistica or loved some things about his game, I mean, honestly,

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 3>this is gonna be the first time that mainstream America

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 3>will have the chance to really see this guy that

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 3>was and I and again, I used to get Channel

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 3>fifty two that were like CMLL, like five shows on.

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 3>It felt like during the week if you had the

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 3>right Spanish television package in two thousand and three, two

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 3>thousand and four, two thousand and five. You have no

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 3>idea how big of a star that this guy was

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 3>and why he's in the Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame.

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Most people don't know why that is, and hopefully they'll

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 3>get a chance to see a little bit of it

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 3>tonight with him in Rock.

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's a reason why ww brought in a guy

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 4>his size, who couldn't speak English, who had all these

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 4>limitations against him as far as what they would traditionally

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:12.240
<v Speaker 4>push as a star, because he was that great during

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 4>that time period. And you know, he's still a great

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:22.800
<v Speaker 4>wrestler despite his career in WWE years and years ago.

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 4>So I'm really looking forward to seeing both these guys

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 4>show out tonight.

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 3>He had a more spectacular fail in WWE, but it's

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.320
<v Speaker 3>kind of still on par with Ultimo or Ultimo Dragon,

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 3>who I could not have been happier about. When he

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 3>came in. They gave him such cool vignettes on the

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 3>way in, with the changing of the mask and the music.

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was great, and then literally just his

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 3>first night into had some problems, slipped up on some

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 3>stuff and it was like he never recovered from there,

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 3>and he just didn't get over and it just didn't work.

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:03.240
<v Speaker 3>But it didn't to me dismissed the rest of his legacy,

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 3>although to a lot of people it didn't. I think

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 3>that was the case with Mystico as well too. But

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 3>I guess let me continue to move on here.

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 4>Get it seems like they've been kind of bootstrapped at

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 4>those introductions of foreign wrestlers over the years. You know,

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 4>you mentioned Ultimo Dragon, We're talking about Mexico as Sinkara,

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 4>the traditional Japanese wrestler Lord Tensai at a well, I mean.

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 3>They see things that are big in the culture, but

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 3>then don't know how to translate the culture, you know.

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean it was like, wow, you know, why was

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Giant Bernard a star in Japan? And did they you

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 3>know again the gimmick that they had for him and

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 3>all that. It's like, you know, I don't know. They've

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 3>been very awkward with a lot of the things that

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 3>they've done bringing people in. And the Suzuki is another

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 3>great examplistics out there, but hey, aw Collision is also

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:57.800
<v Speaker 3>going to be taking place alongside Battle of the Belt's

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:00.800
<v Speaker 3>eight this Weekend Live on Saturday from the FedEx for

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 3>him in Memphis, Tennessee. Talked about the rock and roll

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.280
<v Speaker 3>and the Young Bucks. Maybe somebody can get piled driven

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 3>through the table. Maybe Ricky can get some revenge on

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 3>Nick Jackson or something. Pretend that he's Randy Savage from

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 3>back in the day with Savage putting Morton through that

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 3>pile driver through the table. That may have been the

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 3>first pile driver through a table I ever saw. Was

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:22.359
<v Speaker 3>Randy Savage doing that to Ricky Morton at the Mid

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 3>South Coliseum. But Dave Brown, I'm excited about this perennial

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame candidate and one of

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 3>the great voices of all time. Used to be alongside

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Lance Russell on all those great Memphis television shows and

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 3>then into the nineties with the USWA and all that

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 3>sort of stuff. I'm not sure how many matches he's

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 3>going to be calling, but he's definitely going to be

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 3>going to be doing the Memphis Street Fight with Eddie

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Kingston and Jeff Jarrett, which ought to be ought to

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 3>be very entertaining. I know a lot of people are

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 3>going to be pissed off when Kingston takes anel here

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 3>with all this interference Memphis style, and Jay Leaf will

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 3>ends up getting a title shot. But I'm looking forward

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 3>to this one.

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:07.359
<v Speaker 4>What could you not like about saclitch? You know what

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean this. We've seen Eddie Kingston in these fights

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 4>in the ring repeatedly over the past few months. Like

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:22.760
<v Speaker 4>we've seen him backstage when he's in the stadium Stampede,

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 4>he's fighting outside of the ring. He looks like he's

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:27.400
<v Speaker 4>having the time of his life.

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:31.279
<v Speaker 4>He's probably so happy to get to go out there

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 4>and fight Jeff Jarrett in Memphis. In this situation, it's

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 4>gonna be awesome.

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:41.399
<v Speaker 3>Nobody except who is happier than Jeff Jarrett because he's

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 3>gonna get to go over somebody who will never get

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:47.319
<v Speaker 3>revenge back on You think he's gonna be You think

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 3>he's gonna get him with the rag's. Hey, I hope

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 3>he does. I hope it's something crazy, old school like

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 3>that and completely ridiculous. Yes, yes, I do hope that happens.

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 3>And I'm a big Jeff Jarrett fan on him, you know,

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 3>but you got to make fun of him again the

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 3>fie thing and so many times Jeff Jarrett the Ultimate

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Survivor and in the professional wrestling business, the Ultimate Ultimate

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:12.240
<v Speaker 3>worker in the professional wrestling business, but also on Collision

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 3>aw World tag Team title match, Big Villain Ricky Starks

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 3>make their first second defense. I don't know, but they

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.479
<v Speaker 3>face Claudio and Wheeler Yuda and in a singles match,

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Miro against Action and Ready if he still doesn't have

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 3>him held hostage from last week, the hot and flexible CJ.

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.759
<v Speaker 3>Sureley playing a part in that Orange cassidy against the

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.719
<v Speaker 3>winner of tonight's three way for the International title on

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Battle of the Belts eight, the Chris Statlander against Willow

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 3>Nightingale for the TVs title and the World Trios title.

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Billy Gunn and the Acclaimed against Angelo Parker, Daniel Garcia

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 3>and Matt Menard. Filthy Tom and I will exit this

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 3>show when we get back from break. Tom think of

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 3>some words of wisdom to pass on to everybody before

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<v Speaker 3>we sign off here on Wrestling Observer Lived, It's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be ah me the President.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 2>and Mike simper Vivi on the Sports Bylines Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 3>Back on the show, Mike simper vv filthy. Tom Lawler

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<v Speaker 3>here with you Wrestling Observer Live. We got one more

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<v Speaker 3>short segment to go before your weekend officially begins. Darby

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Allen never takes a weekend, Tom. He says he's dealing

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 3>with an injured shoulder, and this is the ultimate in

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 3>bearing the lead on the website, Ian Carrie, you did this,

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 3>my friend. The thirty year old Allen hasn't wrestled since

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 3>Russelled Dream on October first, but took part in a

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 3>brawl with Nick Wayne and Lucasaurus. He then goes on

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 3>to say that Nitro Circus was also in Texas this

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.240
<v Speaker 3>week and had a show on Thursday in Fort Worth.

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<v Speaker 3>Alan performed a stunt jump at the event and mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>his shoulder injury when they dressing the live crowd. He said, basically,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll cut it short here. My shoulder I think is fractured,

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<v Speaker 3>and I messed up my elbow pretty bad last week,

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<v Speaker 3>and I had to go train to climb Mount Everest,

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<v Speaker 3>so I didn't give my shoulder any time to rest.

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<v Speaker 3>But since I heard Nitro Circus was coming, I had

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<v Speaker 3>to be there. And then it says, Alan then proceeded

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<v Speaker 3>to land on his already injured shoulder when attempting the jump.

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<v Speaker 3>So Darby Allen I love watching him Russell because I

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<v Speaker 3>believe everything he does hurts either him or his opponent.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a set of Cajoni's that I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>doing some of these stunts and everything. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're Tony Kahan, are you pulling your hair out

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<v Speaker 3>or do you just truly accept that this is what

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<v Speaker 3>Darby Helen is here in something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you pull your hair out as you accept

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<v Speaker 4>that this is what Darby Allen's gonna do. People die

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<v Speaker 4>all the time from trying to climb Mount Everest. This

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<v Speaker 4>guy's training for it with a one arm apparently after

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<v Speaker 4>getting slammed on the steel steps by Christian. What a horrific,

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<v Speaker 4>horrific bump. Yeah, that was this guy. I mean, no

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<v Speaker 4>drags for Darby, no no rest holds, no chin locks

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<v Speaker 4>out there. He's going crazy. One hundred twenty four to seven.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess it doesn't end when he's outside of the

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<v Speaker 4>aw ring. You know, he just had to go get

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<v Speaker 4>his thrills at Nitro Circus. Mike, he asked for some

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<v Speaker 4>words of wisdom, so let me give him to you

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<v Speaker 4>as we depart from Cody Rhodes. I believe in hard work,

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<v Speaker 4>but I believe in vindication as well. Mike, you have

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<v Speaker 4>a few nightmares, I imagine before you reach your dream.

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<v Speaker 4>And what a dream it's been for myself and for

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<v Speaker 4>my colleague Mike SIMPERVV Wrestling Observer Live. We bid you

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<v Speaker 4>a dude.

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