WEBVTT - War on Cartels - May 16th, Hour 2 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:03.920 Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. My name is Rose. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.600 Sean will be back on Monday, but you get me 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:08.800 for the rest of the afternoon, and I'm glad about it. 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:13.440 So joining me today though, on this segment is a 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:15.880 friend of mine, someone that I have so much respect for. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.800 He is a true patriot and a hero to this country. 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:22.800 He's retired director of Special Ops Division. He served as 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:27.240 acting administrator of DEA. So thank you for that. Derek Maltz, 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:29.000 how are you Rose. 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:30.440 Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:33.479 You know, we always talk about, you know, what's happening, 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:36.879 particularly with fentanyl, and we're going to talk to in 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.599 this segment about why this is so important that we 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.760 educate our children, and I know that's something that's very 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:46.040 close to your heart. Before we get to all of that, 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.879 you do talk about how we have so many we 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:51.960 have to have options on a table when it comes 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.639 to saving future generations. And then we start to look 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.480 at the extent to where cartels are involved. We saw 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:02.160 that Mexico's president didn't want to be involved in any way. 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:04.160 So I want to ask you a few things. What 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.880 should we do to handle cartels and their ability to 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.839 operate and what's coming through from Mexico. Let's just start 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:10.039 with that. 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.760 So, first of all, under the Trump administration, clearly he's 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.920 designated defendantal crisis as a top national security priority. And 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.479 it's action speaking louder than words, because really early on 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:27.080 he declared the Mexican cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. And 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.759 just this past week actually today and Monday, two major 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:36.200 announcements both in San Diego on Monday, and also DOJ 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:39.199 put the announcement out today from Western District of Texas. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:43.600 Major indictments on the cartels, both on the Cinela cartel 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:48.400 side and also on the CJNG side. So the US 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.800 government is working now in a whole government approach to 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:56.080 attack this problem. Now, we have seen some progress in Mexico. 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:01.840 We have seen some increases in labs being hit disruptions. Obviously, 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:05.160 we can never forget back. In February rows I was 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:10.000 at Dulles Airport when a large Mexican military plane landed 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:13.560 with seven leaders of the cartels, and we had twenty 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:17.280 nine that landed in America that day from Mexico and 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:22.280 including the killer of Kiki Kamarina Raphael Carol Cantaro, who 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.120 we've been waiting for for forty years. So Mexico has 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.520 stepped up. There's been some good signs, but unfortunately, we 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:32.079 have a weapon of mass destruction coming into this country. 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.600 It's not just fentanyl, as we talked several times, it's 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.200 all these other synthetic opiods which we could talk about, 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:40.920 So it's not fentanyl coming in over the border. 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.480 And before we talk about that, I know what you're 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:46.040 referring to. It's the one that they used to tranquilize 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:49.000 animals initially. But before we do that, I want to 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.280 ask you about China, because you know we stay here 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.239 in the United States that China has a price to 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.639 pay where fetannol is concerned and coming into this country. 0:02:56.760 --> 0:03:00.320 China says that fentanyl issue is the responsibility of the 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:01.400 United States. Who's right. 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.200 So, Rose, I got to tell you, you know, I've 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.200 been in law enforcement my whole life. I just ran 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.200 the DEA for fifteen weeks before I left on Bay Second, 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.240 and I will tell you, and I've been preaching this 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:15.360 for a long time. We are aggressively going after the cartels, 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.079 both at the border and all over America. Law enforcement 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.880 is doing a great job. Unfortunately, where we have failed 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:24.519 miserably is we have not educated the kids. So China 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:28.080 is right when they say the phentomol issue is the 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.080 responsibility of us in the sense of if we're not 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.399 even educating our kids and the demand is going through 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:38.440 the roof, and now we have rose the unintended victims 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.880 like the infants and the children that are dying from 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.960 accidental accidental exposure in these homes. So yeah, we do 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.600 have a lot of responsibility, and this is a multifaceted fight. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:53.680 But let's not forget the Homeland Security Select Committee investigated 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.320 in twenty twenty four and put out a release that 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.960 the Chinese government was incentivizing the chemical companies to manner 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.360 facture and export these chemicals as long as they were 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:08.400 leaving China, right, chemicals that were really deadly leaving bus 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.240 They have all over their e commerce. They have websites 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.960 where you could go on and you could buy xylazine. 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:17.680 As you said, living in Pennsylvania, you know, like Kensington, 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.640 it's like the Night of the Living Dead. You have 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:23.120 people walking around that have xylazine in their system, which 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.520 is a horse tranquilizer, which basically is causing the crosis 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:28.880 the rotten of human tissue, so there's a lot of 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.040 blame to go around. I feel that we're on a 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.000 positive track right now, and I think that we just 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.360 need to keep the pressure on. And I think President 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.440 Trump and the administration is going to continue to hold 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:45.040 Mexico accountable for the cartel's actions. I mean, personally, I've 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.240 said this repeatedly. I wouldn't mind using some you know, 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:52.039 state of the art sophisticated drone technology to start taking 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.719 out some of the commanding control infrastructure. And I know 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.359 President Trump has asked the Mexican president if she was 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:02.000 interested in the port from our military, and at least 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.080 at this point publicly, they're saying no, she's not interested. 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.600 So hopefully she'll change her mind and we can have 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:08.560 more success. 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:10.840 Yeah, I think it's a great I mean, we have 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:14.039 to really get in there where it's happening. And I 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:17.120 know that, you know, you and I have been at rallies, 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.760 We've been with families that have lost something to a 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:24.839 fentanyl poisoning. These I guess what I want people to know, Derek, 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.839 and this is what I know is part of your emma. 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.919 You want them to understand this is not we're not 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:33.440 talking about drug addicts here that die from fentanyl. This 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:35.039 is not that at all. As a matter of fact, 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:36.520 I remember a story in fact, I think you were 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.840 on a show with me once with a mother of 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:42.040 a girl that was delivering muffins or cookies to a 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:46.320 next door neighbor, fell through the porch, the wooden porch 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.880 and was in pain and told her girlfriend about it, 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:51.680 and her girlfriend thinking that she's just offering her something 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.840 that's going to take away the pain. Turns out it 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.880 was leasd with fentanyl and she died. These are not 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.720 these are one offs. These are not children who are 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.760 into drugs in any way, shape or form. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.760 Right, So it's very clear, and I'll give credit to 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:10.400 the Democrat up in Massachusetts, Jake auchinclass. I don't know 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.840 how to say his last name, but he said it perfectly. 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.800 This is state sponsorship poisoning of the US on behalf 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:20.440 of the CCP. We have babies, we have victims that 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.200 are all over this country. We have young children being 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:26.359 deceived to death when they think they're taking some legitical, 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:30.440 legitimate pharmaceutical pill and in fact it's got fentanyl. But 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.600 now rows what we're seeing, like the DA just put 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.720 out their National Assessment, and they also put out a 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:40.480 warning this past week on car fentanyl. Car hall is 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.839 way more powerful, one hundred times more powerful than fentanyl, 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.280 and it's out there. It's showing up in record levels 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:51.040 out there in the streets. The DEA labs have determined 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.839 the presence of car fentanyl in the different illicit drugs. 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.520 So bottom line is, you know, we're seeing a total 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:03.479 increase in poisoning and illicit drug supply, which means all 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.240 people that are using illicit drugs are you know, potentially 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.960 gonna you know, put themselves in a deadly situation because 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.680 this stuff is legitimate. It's killing at record levels. And 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.760 despite some of those you know warnings and some of 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:21.280 those you know results that are coming out from CDC, 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:25.040 we shouldn't be raising the white flag anytime soon. Okay, 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.000 we have a long way to go. We're doing a 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:30.640 good job. Everyone's working better together. We're getting more support 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.040 from the White House and the administration, which is really 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.680 long overdue. But we have lots of work to do. 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:38.800 Yeah, we do. And just you know, as a side 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.720 note too, to the car fentanyl. You've talked about how 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.400 dangerous is but this they say it's more deadly than heroin. 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.600 It's an opioid like no other. And there's a challenge 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.720 there too for first responders because it's that powerful, as 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.440 is ventanyl. But it is that powerful. So if you 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.320 touch or inhale, a dose is smaller than a penny, 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:00.280 even very, very small. It's just it's frightening to think 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.760 that that's out there now too. And again, who is 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.760 at risk. It's our children who are at risk. So 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.880 we when we consider that the kids, and we talk 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.960 a lot about the cartels, the border, but one thing 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:14.440 that I know that is close to your heart is 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:19.320 the children and preventing these ventanyl deaths altogether. So what 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.040 do we need to do that we're not doing right 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:23.920 now to save the children? 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.360 So mandatory education in every school in America. I work 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.600 with families all over this country that have designed and 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.640 dedicated their lives to creating school curriculum, and they're out 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:40.080 there battling, you know, school superintendents and school boards to 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.760 get into schools to try to teach these kids about 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.680 this poison that's all over the country. So that's got 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.040 to be mandatory. I hope that the President will make 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.680 moves on this sometime soon and but you know, there's 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:53.600 other things that are going on, Like you know, DA 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.160 has a program now DA Together for Families, so we 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.360 have thousands of families that we're supporting. We have, of course, 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.640 have the faces of Fentanyl exhibit in the lobby of 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:06.800 the DA headquarters, and it's a platform with educational materials, 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:08.800 so there's a lot of materials out there. But this 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.520 is my problem, Rose. This is not the job of 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.160 the private citizens who lost their children. This is the 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:20.040 number one job of the government of America to give 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.800 the warnings to the public and provide resources so we 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.480 can keep our country safe, keep our citizens safe. This 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:31.600 administration has already shown that their priority is keeping Americans safe. 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.439 That's why you know, we're out there, you know, in 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.600 law enforcement out there every day on the streets, you know, 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:40.719 rounding up these illegal, violent gangsters that are out there 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:44.680 and these drug traffickers, child molesters, and rapists. So they're 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.440 trying to get them out of the country. But the 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.319 reality is is this is way bigger than law enforcement. 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.400 We have to start educating the public. We have to 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.360 get out there in the schools mandatory. There should be 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.360 no exception, And I can't imagine why it's taking this long, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.360 and it's one of these political things. And as I've 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.880 said Rose many times, this is not a red or 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.040 a blue issue. It's a red, white and blue issue. 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.719 Every American needs to unite on this issue because it's 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:13.640 killing our future generation. It's killing our military at record levels, 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.160 and so we have to get more serious about it. 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:21.440 And it's way beyond just fentanyl. Remember that Chinese criminals 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:25.400 are actually providing the money laundering services for the cartels 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.640 right now, So they're picking up cash all over the 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:31.240 country and laundering it very sophisticated laundering. But here's another 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.440 thing that they're doing ros and we talked about this. 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:37.680 They're actually out there and they're dominating the cultivation and 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:41.600 distribution of illicit marijuana. Why is that important Because they're 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:45.560 spraying the marijuana in many cases with Chinese pesticides. We 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.000 have no idea what the hell that is. 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.079 And oh my god, the. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.440 DEA just put out a release that the average PhD 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.240 content in some of the illicit marijuana is twenty five 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.120 to thirty percent. That's why we're seeing kids go to 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:00.960 the emergency room. That's why we're see an increase in 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:05.480 you know, marijuana schizophrenia and psychosist because the Chinese have 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:09.640 their fingerprints all over this, and shame on Americans and 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:13.120 shame on our government. We're not connecting the dots across 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:17.040 all of the acts of the Chinese criminal. It's not 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.920 just sentanyl and fentanyl precursors. That's that's a big part 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.920 of what they're doing, but the money laundering, the marijuana, 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.920 illicit grow operations. They're killing our kids at record level, 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.480 So we have to get more serious. Hopefully, some of 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.360 the negotiations that the President is doing now are going 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.880 to lead to good results, but it's going to take 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:36.760 a lot of efforts. 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:42.120 Well, is there is any hesitancy in the schools? Is 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.280 that part of the problem too? And I agree with you. 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.120 It shouldn't be the job of those who lost someone 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.920 a child that died from the fentanyl poisoning. It shouldn't 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.679 be their job to educate, even though I applaud them 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:56.360 for all that they're doing because they don't want this 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.000 to happen to another family. But where is there a disconnect? 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.000 Are the schools open minded to this? Have we even 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.920 approached them? Is there anything enforced already that we can present? 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.520 Well, like I said, the families already have certified curriculum, 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:13.439 and in many states they're already doing it. 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:15.959 Okay, okay, but what's the hold up in the others though, 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:16.920 that's my question. 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:19.760 Because of the school boards and the politics, because they 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.920 don't understand the issue. Rose. It's the same problem that 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.040 I've had for the last five years trying to recruit 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:30.520 social media influences, professional athletes, trying to get celebrities to 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.280 come out and speak about this problem, and they're all hiding, 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.000 they don't want to do it, and sadly, in many cases, 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.120 they've lost their own relatives, some of these high profile 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.520 athletes and celebrities, and they don't want to do it 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.920 because they don't understand the problem, the magnitude of the threat. 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:48.600 They're embarrassed by their loss, which I understand, and no 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:52.199 one is. You know that anybody that has a heart 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:57.680 can understand losing a child is so catastrophic. So the 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.280 point is is that the army of Grievan family that 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.520 are out there, they're trying to save other lives. They're 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.959 putting up billboards, they're raising money, they're competing against each 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.840 other to raise limited funds to just try to educate America. 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.080 Why isn't the government doing that? 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:12.280 Now? 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.640 I understand President Trump has already said he's going to 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:19.920 start putting out commercials showing the catastrophic damage of sentinel poisoning. 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.360 And that's great, that's the right thing to do. And 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.719 I plowed them for you thinking about that, because we 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.679 didn't hear that during the last administration. They never talked 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.280 about educating the kids because it became very political with 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.920 China and the Southwest border and anybody that thought it 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.480 was okay to just let millions of unknowns into the country. 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:39.480 I mean, look at it. 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.760 Look what's causing now Our resources are now being diverted 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:46.000 to go after the illegals that are here, which. 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:46.960 They never should have been here. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.840 And then you look numbers right now, thank god CBP 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.960 Border Patrol and law enforcements out there. You look at 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.480 the numbers just in the last three months, there's only 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:00.439 been thirty four thousand Southwest border landing count. If you 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:03.120 look at the numbers last year, in the last three months, 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.480 five hundred and fifty eight thousand. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.320 This is an outrage and Derek and I and I 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.040 feel it in you too. When you talk. We have 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.439 like thirty seconds where can people go to learn more? 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:17.280 Well, the DA has one pill can kill the DA has. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.000 Like I said, this new website, it's got a lot 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.880 of stitch the lease. It can go on there and 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:27.080 they can get the information. And we have a community 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.800 outright people all throughout America in every state that could 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.320 be you know, talk to if a family wants a 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.600 call to try to get more. Thank you more information. 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.680 Thank you so much, Derek. Thank you for your heart, 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.600 thank you for all that you do. You are a hero. 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:42.560 Thank you so much for joining us today. 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.320 You Rose, have a great weekend. 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.240 God bless This is a Sean Hannity Show. We'll be 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.160 back with more after this one eight hundred and ninety 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:49.400 four one. 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:49.680 Seawn. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.520 If you want to be part of the show, welcome 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.760 back to the Sean Hannity Show. My name is Rose. 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.440 I'll be with you this afternoon. And guess what Sean 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:01.200 is back on Monday after he had the opportunity of 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.400 a lifetime I think, to travel with President Trump during 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.360 his Middle Eastern tour and that was very successful. We're 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:08.920 going to talk about some of those things in fact 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.280 with my guest right now. He is known to many 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.560 as Pastor Jack. He leads the Calvary Chapel Chino Hills. 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.080 He's got a television broadcast called Real Life with Jackhibbs. 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.000 You can go to his site. It's Jackkibbs dot com. 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.040 Real Life Network is awesome. I listen all the time 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.120 to his podcast, to his sermons. Please welcome to the show, 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:31.120 Pastor Jack Hibbs, your favorite here at Pastor Hibbs Ros. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:32.360 Thank you so much. 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:36.480 We got to meet for the first time at the 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.800 National Religious Broadcasters event this spring and I was so 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.400 thrilled to finally see you in person. It was great experience. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.640 Well listen, that is mutual, and we did more than 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.680 that because you did a great job on our program 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.120 in programming and it was a great blessing and so 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.960 Rose as always, it's always great to speak with you. 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:59.640 Thank you so much. It was a pleasure to do that. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:01.920 And also I've been plugging the fact that I have 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.640 a podcast now on Real Life Network, so I've been 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.720 asking people to check it out. So thanks for that. 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.240 You know, there's a lot going on right now, and 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:10.840 one of the things that I'd like to talk to 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:14.080 you about is Trump's Middle East tour, because if we 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.160 think about it, go all the way back to twenty twenty, 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:20.120 Pastor Jack, there's a landmark achievement between the United States 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.880 and the Middle East in terms of diplomacy, and that 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:26.280 was the Abraham Accords, and that led to peace agreements 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:31.040 between Israel, United Arab Emirates, Bahrian and Morocco. But here's 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.560 the thing right now, President Trump has been saying that 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.400 he would really, really like it. It is his dream, 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:40.120 he said, for Saudi Arabia to join the Abraham Accords. 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:44.160 What's the significance of that statement of what happened in 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.080 twenty twenty, because that was quite significant in fact, and 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.640 what you think will happen in the future here with 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:51.640 all that he's been doing in the Middle East. 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:55.120 Yeah, well, I'd like to pre up my response by saying, 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.920 just going back to Trump's first term, he honestly should 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:04.320 received the Nobel Peace Prize for the achievement of the 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:08.200 Abraham Accords. There's just no doubt about it. Yeah, oh yeah. 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:13.120 Having said that, listen, Saudi Arabia is the home of 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:17.280 the Islamic world. It is the no pun intended, but 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.440 it is the mecca of the Islamic universe. And so 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:25.160 if Saudi Arabia would sign on to the Abraham Accords. 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:30.280 You're talking about an influence among the Islamic world that 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:36.280 could cause some tremendous economic and I hope anyway peace 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:42.280 reforms among those that are moderate to conservative Muslims. In 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:47.600 other words, if if the crown prince in Saudi Arabia 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.000 were to join the Abraham Accords, it would isolate the 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:56.320 radicals in the world quite substantially. It would be fantastic, 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.359 It would be great. And then Rose listen, you know, 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.240 well the Bible, if somebody would like to go look 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.640 at Ezekiel chapter thirty eight, they're going to find out 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:10.159 that the future speaks about a future war in Israel 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.080 that has not yet taken place, because those nations are listed, 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:17.880 and there's a nation that does not come against Israel 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.679 in that war, and that nation is none other than 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:24.480 Saudi Arabia, also known in scripture as Shiba and Dban. 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:28.199 So this is a remarkable thing, both prophetically from the 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:33.080 Bible and also economically and politically for the world. This 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:34.800 is quite a moment. I think we're looking at a 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:39.199 reprieve moment where Trump has had this success and we 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:43.520 hope that it expands into secure in Saudi Arabia. Into 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.440 the Agraham Accords. 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.560 Very interesting, Actually, Pastor Jack, I did not know that 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:52.080 from Ezekiel, and that's fascinating to hear that today. So 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.080 thanks for sharing that. I mean, that's very powerful. And 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.760 you brought up Israel and there's still that unrest that's 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:01.159 happening right now between Israel and Gaza, and I just 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.560 like you think it's going to maybe slowed down or 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.399 things that are going to get better, but then it 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.439 just rears its ugly head again, the unrest. What are 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.919 your thoughts on what's happening right now today in Israel? 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:12.200 I know you have a lot of friends, a lot 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.720 of leaders over there in that country. What do you 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.399 think what's happening right now in your mind? 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.399 Well, yeah, thank you for that. Yes, it is true. 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:25.320 We're heavily invested in Israel and the Middle East, both 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.480 in Israel and broadcast programming throughout the Middle East. Having 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:31.120 said that, I have been to the Middle East. I've 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.840 been to Israel some twenty three times, and so I 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.320 speak from a little bit of experience when I say 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:39.280 that there's a whole lot of people that are caught 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:43.720 up in the radicalization of a few. Remember, if you've 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.480 got a crowd of people. Then five of them are shouting. 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:50.280 It feels like the entire crowd is shouting. Having said 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:54.919 that terrorism has to be starved out. It's got to 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:58.119 be dealt with in a very blunt and a very 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:02.000 very firm way. It does respond to diplomacy. We all 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:06.000 know that humanistry shows that it doesn't respond to overtures 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:11.760 of peace. Radicals and violence and terrorism has to be eliminated. So, 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.960 for example, you rose and I we've just watched this week, 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:22.359 Israel has confirmed the elimination of yet again another head 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:29.679 leader of Hamas and these terrorist organizations. Eventually, if Israel 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.520 is allowed to do what it needs to do, they're 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:36.680 going to run out of bad guys. Hamas, Hezballah, the 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:38.919 hu Thi's, They're going to run out of bad guys. 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:42.840 People eventually get the message. If I'm the next guy 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:45.560 to be installed as the leader, I've got about a 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:49.800 three months life, a shelf life. I'm going to be eliminated. 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:52.760 This has got to happen. Sad to say that this 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:55.119 is the way that it is. If they would just 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:59.159 lay down their arms as Natanna who's calling for and 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:02.000 as witcuff this calling for. I mean, look what Witkof 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:07.880 is saying, just give us, give us Israeli survivors from 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:12.160 the captivity, and give us uh some the dead bodies 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.600 of those captives, and we will pause for forty five days, 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:19.960 we'll talk things out and and let's let's work this out. 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:23.520 And the terrorist leader said, no way, no, We're going 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:26.520 to keep going. So, you know, how do you how 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:28.840 do you talk to somebody who doesn't want to talk? 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.439