1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A gorgeous twenty five year 2 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: old world class cyclists is murdered, found shot dead multiple 3 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: times in the gentrified East Austin neighborhood full of beautiful 4 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: apartments at homes. When I say world class, I mean 5 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: world class. She reportedly the number one female gravel cyclist 6 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: in the world. Who we want to kill this beautiful 7 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: twenty five year old girl, I me, Nancy Grace. This 8 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here 9 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: at Fox Nation and series M one eleven. Let's kick 10 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: it off, take it listen to our friends at seven. 11 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: Police are investigating a suspicious death in East Auston. This 12 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: happened on Maple Avenue near East seventeenth Street overnight. A 13 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: woman called police saying she found her friend inside her 14 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: house unresponsive and there was blood near her. When officers arrived, 15 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: they found the victim had gunshot wounds. A US provided 16 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: life saving measures, but the woman later died from her injuries. 17 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: Police do not know how long she was inside the home, 18 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: but did call her death suspicious. It is unclear if 19 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: a gun was found on scene. Suspicious man. They're staying 20 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: pretty calm. Multiple gunshot wounds, I would say, Yeah, that's suspicious. 21 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: I can go ahead and answer that for the cops. 22 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: Take a listen now to our friend John krn Jack 23 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: Fox seven tonight, we're learning the victim of a deadly 24 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: shooting in East Austin earlier this week was a well 25 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: known cyclist who is supposed to take part in a 26 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: mountain bike race in the Hill Country today. Anna Wilson, 27 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: better known by her middle name Mariah, was pronounced dead 28 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: on Wednesday night at home on Maple Avenue near Eighteenth Street. 29 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: Austin Police were called there after a friend of Wilson's 30 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: returned home to find the twenty five year old unconscious 31 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: with gunshot wounds. APD has not believed the shooting was random. 32 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: They're urging anyone with information or video of what happened 33 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: to give them a call now. According to the cycling 34 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: magazine Vello, Wilson was in Texas ahead of today's gravel 35 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: locost Race and Hiko, where she was a favorite to win. 36 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: Vellow published a statement from her family saying she was 37 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: quote always pushing tirelessly to reach her goals. We knew 38 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: she was pursuing that which she loved, the family adding 39 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: we know Mariah would want the event to carry on. 40 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: You know, when I hear the address Maple Avenue, that 41 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: sounds straight out of a storybook. And from what I've learned, 42 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: there's a pretty ritzy area there in Austin joining me 43 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: an all star panel. But let me first go straight 44 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: out to Tony Plahetski, longtime friend, colleague, investigative reporter with 45 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: The Austin American Statesman and KVUE Twitter at t Plaatski. Tony, 46 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: tell me about East Austin. I got the word gentrified 47 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: from you. What do you mean by that? I mean 48 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: Maple Avenue. It sounds like it's out of a fable 49 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: of book. It sounds so peaceful and idyllic. To have 50 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: somebody the number one female gravel cyclist in the world 51 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 1: gunned down dead an apartment doesn't fit with Maple Avenue well, 52 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: so over the years, this area of East Austin has 53 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: truly been transformed. Wait a minute, Tony Plahatsky, just stop 54 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: right there. Let me just call it like it is. 55 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: It reminds me of when I moved to Atlanta and 56 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: started prosecuting an inner city Atlanta's Fulton District Attorney's office. 57 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: I lived in midtown, and at that time, every morning 58 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: when I would come out of my apartment, I'd go 59 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: to my car and there'd be gin bottles and pantyhose, syringes, rubbers, 60 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: empty bottles of liquor, and panty hose because hookers and 61 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: addicts would come up and down my alley where I 62 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: live to shoot up and conduct business. Let me just 63 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: say then it went gentrified. People that wanted to live 64 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: close to all the high rise skyscrapers and businesses downtown 65 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: wanted to move there. They pump their money into it, 66 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: fixed it all up. Everybody had laws and fancy apartments 67 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: and fancy cars. I had to move. I couldn't afford 68 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: it anymore. Is that what you're saying. That's exactly what 69 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It is a carbon copy of what you 70 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: just described. And so this area where Mariah Wilson was 71 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: murdered is now home to high rise apartments town home 72 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: that are very trendy. A lot of young people in 73 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: our city live in this area who have moved to 74 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: Austin from all over the country to work in tech, 75 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: for example, and so it's really an area dominated increasingly 76 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: by that population. I know what you mean. Gin bottles 77 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: and pantyhose in the alley one day, then valet parking 78 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: and high rises the next day. I get it. What 79 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm getting at is there's a very low crime rate 80 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: on Maple Avenue. Take a listen to our friends Carissa 81 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: lemoucol on Fox seven Surprise Everybody. East Austin resident Michael 82 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: Harris is talking about what happened the night of May eleventh. 83 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: Shocked to hear that a young prominent cyclist was shot 84 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: and killed while staying in the house across the street. 85 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: I live here almost two years, and I've never maybe 86 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: seen two police cars passed by. This is why this 87 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: neighborhood is. Twenty five year old Mariah Wilson was in 88 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: Texas to compete in an upcoming race. Coming off a 89 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: win at the Belgian Waffle Ride in California. We all 90 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: just marveled at, you know, just what a wonderful personality 91 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: and a great athlete and an ambassador for our sport. 92 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, how could this happen? 93 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: And everyone's just sort of reeling from it. In addition 94 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: to reporter Carissa, you're also hearing from the director of 95 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: the Belgian Waffle Ride in California, Michael Marks. Everyone knew 96 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: her and loved her. Now, when I hear gravel cycling, 97 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: it's hard enough to race in sand to get your 98 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: bike to go through. So why are you looking at 99 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: me like that, Jackie? Are you imagining trying to ride 100 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: a bike through sand much less gravel? Tell me about this. 101 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: What is is, Tony Plahatski. It's an endurance sport. I mean, 102 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: it is where the yeah, I mean really really a 103 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: very competitive sport across the country, really across the world. 104 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: And Mariah Wilson, as you mentioned, was a star in 105 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: that world. She had already amassed a certain amount of acclaim, 106 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: but she was really on her way. Even her competitors, 107 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: her most fierce competitors, admired her and her stamina, her 108 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: just natural born athleticism, but also Nancy her personality. I mean, 109 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: when they talk about her, they actually don't lead with 110 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: the fact that she was this amazing athlete. They lead 111 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: with talking about her kindness and her spirit and the 112 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: happiness that she really had in her life. Time stories 113 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace just right off the bat too, Jessica Morgan, 114 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: Professor Forensics, Jackson will statement of her. See he's an 115 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, and he's 116 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: the host of a hit new series Body Bags with 117 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: Joseph Scott more gun on. iHeart Joe Scott right off 118 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: the bat. This woman, I can tell you she's in 119 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: a single dwelling apartment, she's unarmed, and she shot multiple times. 120 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: I don't like it. We don't have any evidence of 121 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: rape or burglary. So why is somebody coming into this 122 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: apartment if there was in fact to break in and 123 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: gunning her down multiple times? Yeah. And one of the 124 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: things that kind of interests me is that when she 125 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: was found, she was not found in like the foyer. 126 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: She wasn't found at the entrance. She was actually found 127 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: in the bathroom, which gives me an indication that unless 128 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: there is an obvious sign that someone kicked in the 129 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: door or pried open a window, or maybe entered through 130 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: a backdoor, even if there was a backdoor, that this 131 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: may have been a location of retreat, you know, when 132 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: people are being attacked. We why didn't can I just 133 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: ask you out of curiosity? Everything you said, I'm down 134 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: with that, but why don't you just say she was 135 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: in the bathroom? Makes me think she ran ran from 136 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: her attacker and hid in the bathroom. Well, because I mean, 137 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: does it ever dawn and you just talk like the 138 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: rest of us. No, okay, go ahead, it I respect 139 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: that ahead. No, it just it just grasped me. You know, 140 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: the moment that I read this and heard it. You know, 141 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: the fact that she was in the bathroom. You know, 142 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: who feels comfortable with entering the bathroom with someone else. 143 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: Maybe she's retreated to that point. Maybe she was forced 144 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: in there. You know, when you know one of the 145 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: things like if you have bad weather, people tell you 146 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: to retreat to the bathroom. It's generally the most secure 147 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: area in the house if you don't have a basement 148 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: or something, and it could be an area where sound 149 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: is muffled. For instance, because Nancy, when they found her, 150 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: her body is blood soaked and there are and this 151 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: is very key, there are multiple spent shell casings laying 152 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: about her body in this approximate area as well. Kay, 153 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: stop right there, she's in the bathroom. You think it 154 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: was a very good chance she ran to the bathroom. 155 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: I agree on multiple spent shell casings around her. That 156 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: tells me this is not a pro because you would 157 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: take the time to pick them up. Shell Nutt with 158 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: me also James shell Nutt twenty seven years a Metro 159 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: major case. Also swap now lawyer with the shell mut 160 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: firm on Twitter at shell Nutt law Firm. Right there, 161 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: we know it's someone that's not a pro because the 162 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: pro after the killing would pick up the shell casings 163 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: because they, just like a bullet, can be matched back 164 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: like a fingerprint to the weapon. Because once you get, 165 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: if you ever get the murder weapon, when the shell 166 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: comes out, there is an ejector mark the shell, although 167 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: it may not hurl down, the barrel is ejected, think 168 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: of an ejection seat in a plane. The shell is 169 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: ejected out and the force of leaving the weapon leaves 170 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: a mark on the shell unlike any other marking from 171 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: any other gun on a shell. Agree, disagree, shell not. 172 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: And what that allows you to do is to go 173 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: back and do further investigation to see if a person 174 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: that you suspect being involved in a crime had access 175 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: to a weapon that would leave that type of strike 176 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: mark on the shell. Case guys, take a listen to 177 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: our cut fifteen, Our cut fifteen from crime Online. Why 178 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: is Mariah also known as Moe in Texas Terrace? Listen. 179 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: Annam Wilson was in Texas to race the Gravel Locos. 180 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: Competition was a one hundred fifty mile race in a 181 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: discipline that blends mountain biking and road cycling. It's a 182 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: profession new to Wilson. She had recently quit her job 183 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: with the mic company Specialized to focus on cycling full time. 184 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: Wilson had won ten off road races this year, including 185 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: an eighty kilometer race at the Sea Outter Classic, a 186 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: cycling festival in Monterey, California. So she was there strictly 187 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: for business. Back to you, Tony Palahatski, where was she staying? 188 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: Whose apartment was this? A friend, a longtime friend who 189 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: does live in Austin, And that friend had actually picked 190 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: her up at the airport and given her a special code, 191 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: an access code to her apartment so that she could 192 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: go and come as she pleased. And so that's what 193 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: Mariah Wilson had done. I mean, there are other things 194 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: that she had been doing out on the town while 195 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: she had been here, just a couple of days actually, 196 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: by the time that she had been been founded, just 197 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: a couple of days in Austin. And now she's dead. 198 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: With me, Tony Plotski is joining as Tony with the 199 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: Austin American Statesman. I'm glad you mentioned that code, that 200 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: special access code. Take a listen to hourcut seventeen our 201 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: friends at crime online dot com. At first, suspecting a robbery, 202 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: police in Cash check the home. The only thing missing 203 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: was Anna Wilson's specialized s Works bicycle. As officers checked 204 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: the area, Wilson's bicycle was found around sixty eight feet 205 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: south of Cash's home, hidden in thick bamboo. The investigation 206 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: quickly turned from interrupted robbery to homicide as Cash explained 207 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: that she has specialized electronic locks on her door that 208 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: unlocked by using a unique code. Cash had provided Wilson 209 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: with a new code, with Cash getting a phone notification 210 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: when the door is either locked or unlocked. At eight 211 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: thirty six pm, Wilson came home. You know that's very 212 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: very interesting. Let me go to another special guest joining us. 213 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: It is run You Mancarious, CEO Crime Stoppers of Houston, 214 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: author of the online world What you think you know 215 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: and what you don't you can find Umcarius dot com. Runya, 216 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us so very much and 217 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: for all of your hard work with crime Stoppers of 218 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: Houston run you. When I was writing Don't Be a Victim, 219 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: I researched about how you, of course should always change 220 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: your code on everything. You've got, your iPad, your cell phone, 221 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: you're recording your home answering machine, if you have one, 222 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: your code in and out of your home, your gate coat, everything. 223 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: Don't leave it on factory set because you can look 224 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: that up online, and predators do look it up online 225 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: to find out what the factory setting is. And most 226 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: of the world, believe it or not, that has a code. 227 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: If any type puts in one two three four or 228 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: one one one one or two two two two, it's 229 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: very very simple to crack that code. That's when I 230 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: learned researching for Don't Be a Victim, that you can 231 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: have your code to get into your apartment like this 232 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: friend had, and then you can give visitors their own 233 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: code so you don't have to x out your code 234 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: every time you have a visitor and they leave and 235 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: come up with a new one, which I think is 236 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: really really smart. When you have visitors, you assign them 237 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: a different code that works with your system. That sounds 238 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: like what happened here, Ronya, Yeah, and agreed and that 239 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: sounds like what Caitlyn Cash did. She assigned Mariah her 240 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: own unique code and has since said that she's erased 241 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: that code and has changed her code. But she was 242 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: doing everything she could to keep herself safe, to keep 243 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: her guestsy. But that move, that very smart move. Really 244 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: it's helping law enforcement in this case. And it's something 245 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: we advise all people to do. Is we embrace technology 246 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: and we look to have smart homes and smart technology 247 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: in our homes. We want people to utilize this in 248 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: a way that keeps them safe. So let's get right 249 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: down to it to doctor Sherry Schwartz joining me. A 250 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: forensic psychologists specializing and capital mitigation. She's the author of 251 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: Criminal Behavior and we're a law in psychology intersect. Doctor 252 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: Sherry Schwartz, thank you for joining us from Miami Beach today, 253 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: Doctor Sherry. That's when you feel at home. You feel 254 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: at home when you go into a secure apartment that 255 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: you can only get in with a special code devised 256 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: for you. Why am I saying this? Who would have 257 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: had that code? Who could have figured out that code? 258 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: Or could the purp have somehow gotten in behind her? 259 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: Did she locked the door when she went in? I'm 260 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: following up on what Joe Scott Morgan said that it 261 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: seems as if the victim becaus world class gorgeous twenty 262 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: five year old cyclist had retreated to the bathroom, or 263 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: maybe she was just in the bathroom, but I know 264 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: where defenses were down, Doctor Sherry. She thought she was 265 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: saying correct. She walked through the door. I mean, maybe 266 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: she did forget to lock it or didn't maybe thought 267 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: it was locked. It's a new environment for her. She's 268 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: a guest at this location, so maybe she didn't think 269 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: about how to lock the door, maybe thought it locked 270 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: automatically behind her. But you're right, she probably felt very 271 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 1: safe and secure and headed to use the restroom like 272 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: many of us do when we first get home. So 273 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: this is nothing unusual. And if I feel safe and 274 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: secure in a location, I'm not necessarily going to be 275 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: hyper vigilant looking for someone, especially if I'm at home 276 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: looking for someone who's going to be coming in behind me. 277 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: And it was interesting. Tony Plohevski joining me from the 278 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: Austin American Statesman. Tony, it doesn't sound like there was 279 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: a struggle. I wonder if the person had secreted themselves 280 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: in the home, if they followed in behind her, if 281 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: she didn't lock the door, if she didn't use the code. 282 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: But I don't hear anything about a struggle ensuing, any 283 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: evidence of a struggle. It sounds like Mariah, it was 284 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: just shot stone cold. Did That's exactly right, in a 285 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: pool of blood on the floor. And so that is 286 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: how her friend Caitlin found her, and that is how 287 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: the police found her when they arrived. Guys, take a 288 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: listen to our cut sixteen, because I'm trying to figure 289 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: out what happened. Where was this friend whose apartment she 290 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: was using, staying there with the friend who was it? 291 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: And what happened in the hours leading up to this 292 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: world class cyclist murder. Friend Katelyn Cash picked up Wilson 293 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: at the airport. Wilson was to stay at ashes home 294 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: until the race. The next day, Cash received a text 295 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: from Wilson saying that she was meeting a friend named 296 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: Colin to go swimming that afternoon. Around five thirty, as 297 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,959 Speaker 1: Cash left to go meet friends for dinner, she noticed 298 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: Wilson's large bicycle travel bag outside the front door on 299 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: the elevated porch. Cash says she told Wilson to move 300 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: the bag inside so it wouldn't be stolen. But when 301 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: Cash came home from dinner, the large bicycle travel bag 302 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: was at the bottom of the stairs, partially blocking the cardboard. 303 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: As she went inside, the front door was unlocked, and 304 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: Wilson was lying on the bathroom floor covered in blood. Okay, 305 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: Tony Plahatski joining me, Austin American Statesman, I just learned 306 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: a lot. So this is a friend, Caitlin Cash, that 307 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: picks her up at the airport, offers her apartment up 308 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: for her to stay, and she was going to stay 309 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: there until the race. The next day. She was meeting 310 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: somebody to go swimming. But listen to this part. She 311 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: noticed the travel bag outside in the front door, on 312 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: the front door on an elevated porch. She told, now, 313 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: first of all, to me, that rules out the friend 314 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: who would be your first suspect, because she's already had 315 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: a chance to kill her when she speak up from 316 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: the airport. Also, it's usually not the killer that calls 317 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: nine one one. Okay, just let's start with that. But 318 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: she comes back, she tells her, move your big bag 319 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: with all your gear inside, so nobody steals it. So 320 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: that tells me while you're telling me this is a 321 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: gentrified neighborhood, there still could be somebody that would come 322 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: along in burgle or steal. I learned that. I also 323 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: learned that the door was unlocked. The front door was unlocked. 324 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: No jimmying the door, no prior marks, no forced entry, 325 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: the door was unlocked, which leads me to think the victim, 326 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: Mariah Wilson, walked in suspecting nothing and didn't lock the door. Yeah, 327 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely think that that is possible. The 328 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: other possibility that we really haven't talked about here, though, Nancy, 329 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: is whether or not Mariah Wilson may have known the person, 330 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: maybe saw someone outside that was known to her. Let's 331 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: go in and talk. Could that have happened here? Could 332 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: someone have come to the door right behind her that 333 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: she knew? I think that is an interesting possibility as well. 334 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, guys. Take a listen. Now we finally 335 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: get a tiny break in the case. Our cut eighteen 336 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: from Crime Online. Detectives turned to video as they discover 337 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: a surveillance camera mounted on the exterior of a home nearby. 338 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: The camera face the driveway next to Cash's home. The 339 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: footage showed a dark colored suv drive past at eight 340 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: thirty seven pm, that's one minute after Wilson entered Cash's home. 341 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: The suv slowed down, appearing to come to a stop 342 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: directly next to Ash's residence. The suv had a large 343 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: bicycle rack mounted on the trailer hitch of the vehicle, 344 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: a luggage rack mounted on the roof, and chrome around 345 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: the windows. No other vehicles were seen on video surveillance 346 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: until emergency vehicles arrived. Okay, what did we ever do? 347 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: James shell nutt before video surveillance, ring doorbells, the works. 348 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: So tell me the significance, because in my mind it's 349 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: going to be tough to explain that this black suv 350 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: was on the scene one minute before. Yeah, I mean 351 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty significant information. I mean, now you've got a 352 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: potential suspect, vehicle identified, and if you can tie that 353 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: to someone who may have a reason to have hurt mode, 354 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: then at that point you've got something. You know you're 355 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: going to want to go back and look and say, Okay, 356 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: what are the usual suspects? You know, the usual suspects 357 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: from motives in murder cases. When you don't know who 358 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: did it, you're always going to run the look at money, 359 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: sex and revenge, and can you tie that vehicle to 360 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: someone who would have had one of those motives? You know, 361 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: I'm curious too, Ronya Man Carrie is joining me with 362 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: Crime Stoppers of Houston and author. The art of identifying 363 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: a vehicle is very, very sophisticated. Every year to two years, 364 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: car manufacturers change subtle, subtle portions of the making model. 365 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: For instance, they may change the tail light. They may 366 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: turn it from two tilllight pains to three, or they 367 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: may slant it, or they may change something about the 368 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: bumper or the wheels. I mean it changes every couple 369 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: of years. They don't keep the same exact model for 370 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 1: a reason. So there are people and car car theft, 371 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: stolen cars. Just like there's a homicide squad, there's a 372 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: car theft squad, there's a burglary squad, there is a 373 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: crimes on children, a crime on women's squad, there's a 374 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: white collar crime squad. So these guys and women in 375 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: car theft they know all of this. And if they 376 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: can get a look at the make and model, they 377 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: can tell you the year. If they can even get 378 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: a partial tag, they can find out who that belongs 379 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: to fairly quickly, would you agree, Runya? Absolutely, I agree, 380 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: and then let's just see we kind of brushed over 381 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: the fact that a local camera on an exterior of 382 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: a neighbors building really cut the video. That's critical because 383 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: to your point, cars are changing constantly. People, you have 384 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: eyewitnesses to the scene that will be able to say, 385 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: I think it was a black vehicle. I think it 386 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: was a jeep, but I'm not sure. But that video surveillance, 387 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: even if it's just the tail light, gives law enforcements 388 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: so much information, including potentially the tag, and that's what 389 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: we had in this case, and that was what was 390 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: absolutely critical and identifying the suspect moving forward. Take a 391 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: listen to our cut eleven our friends at CBS. Although 392 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: she wasn't from Austin, those right here or Central Texas 393 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: have been shocked at her death. I think it's a 394 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: bad tragedy. Michael Harris lives just across the street from 395 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: where Annama Riya Wilson lost her life. Those who knew 396 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: her best called her mob. According to an Affi David, 397 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: Wilson was staying with a friend while preparing for a 398 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: bicycling race. She was lasting alive on surveillance video being 399 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: dropped off at the home by a local professional cyclist, 400 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: Colin Strickland, who never went inside. She's rear required over here. 401 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: We never had this happened before, APD says during the investigation, 402 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: or Vealan's video showed a black, deep grand Cherokee drove 403 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: past the house just one minute after Wilson went inside. Okay, 404 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: right there, we're getting somebody else ruled out. We know 405 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: that she had gone swimming that day earlier in the 406 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: day was somebody named Colins Strickland. But did I hear 407 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: this correctly, Tony Plahatski that the surveillance video shows Strickland 408 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: bringing her home, never going in and leaving. Correct, That 409 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: is exactly right. And Strickland was not driving a black suv. 410 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: He was not. He was, as a matter of fact, 411 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: on his motorcycle. Oh okay, well that clears that up. 412 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: So who is in the black suv? Take a listen 413 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: to our cut nine our friends at Fox seven. Armstrong's 414 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: car was seen on surveillance video at Wilson's friend's home. 415 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: Wilson's friend later came home to find Wilson with multiple 416 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: gunshot wounds. We went to the home where the crime 417 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: happened and the address listed for Armstrong in Strickland no response. 418 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: We tried calling Strickland as well. Sorry, the person we 419 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: were trying to reach her a blue sail box that 420 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: had not been set up yet. All this leaving the 421 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: cycling community in mourning. It's so incredibly painful for such 422 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: a tight knit community and people you've raced with, celebrated with, 423 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: no like fretting Sony miles with to be faced with 424 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: this horrific tragedy, and really my reaction is just pain 425 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: and heart breaking. Okay, so we've ruled out Colins Strickland 426 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: who dropped off on a motorcycle. Who Tony Plahatski is Armstrong. 427 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: Armstrong is Colin Strickland girlfriend of three years and they 428 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: lived together here in Austin and actually operate a business 429 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: together in the Austin area. Caitlin Marie Armstrong, age thirty four, 430 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: is the living girlfriend of Colins Strickland. Collins Strickland is 431 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: who Mariah went swimming with. That's exactly right. Mariah and 432 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: Colin Strickland and had gone to a well known pool 433 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: community pool here in Austin called Deep Betty and went 434 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: swimming together and then picked up a couple of burgers 435 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: at a nearby popular spot, and then as we know, 436 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: he dropped her off back at the apartment on her 437 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: motor Fighter. Okay, I'm trying to take in everything that 438 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: you just said. Take a listen to our cut ten 439 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: Angela Shan Fox seven. The search is on for Caitlin Armstrong. 440 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: Officials are asking for the public's help and finding her. 441 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: According to the core of paperwork, an anonymous caller had 442 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: called police saying Armstrong set she wanted to kill Wilson 443 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: after finding out she was involved with her boyfriend. Now. 444 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: The affidavit says the knight of the murder, Wilson went 445 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: for a swim with Colin Strickland, another cyclist. After that 446 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: he dropped her off at her friend's house. Wilson was 447 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: visiting from California and was an Austin ahead of a 448 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: race in Hiko. The paperwork says Strickland and Caitlin Armstrong 449 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: were in a relationship before briefly ending it for a 450 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: couple of weeks last year. At that time he was 451 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: involved with Wilson. Armstrong's car was seen on surveillance video 452 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: at Wilson's friend's home. A race director we spoke with 453 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: earlier this week, says this is how he remembers Wilson. 454 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: We all just marveled at, you know, just what an 455 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: wonderful personality and a great athlete and an ambassador for 456 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: our support. And then all of a sudden, how could 457 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: this happen? And please say, at this point Armstrong has 458 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: not been found. They are asking for the public's help 459 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: and finding her. Time stories with Nancy Grace to you, 460 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: Tony Platski. I'm trying to make sense of what we 461 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: are learning. So I understand Mariah was not in a 462 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: love relationship a sex relationship with Colin Strickland. Explain this 463 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: love triangle. So Mariah Uh and Colin Strickland did have 464 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: a relationship months ago while he was apparently broken up 465 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: with Kristin Armstrong. That is what he tells the police 466 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: that they that they had. Can you slow down and 467 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: tell me the dates and everything else, you know? Yeah, 468 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: it was last fall in October when Colin reports. So 469 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: must a year ago when when Colin reports that he 470 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: and Armstrong were broken up and that he did have 471 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: a brief relationship with Mariah Wilson. However, since that time, 472 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: according to him, Uh and what he told police is 473 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: that they had been friends. Can you say relationship? Are 474 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: you talking about a love relationship a sex relationship? It wasn't, 475 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: based on my understanding, a romantic relationship. I mean that 476 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: that is the way that it has been described. Okay, 477 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: so let me understand this. About a year ago, when 478 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: Colin Strickland was broken up with Caitlin Armstrong, he had 479 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: a love relationship with Mariah Wilson, the cycling star. Right, 480 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: that's right, and then they called it off and he 481 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: got bat with Caitlin Armstrong. Is that right? That is correct? Okay, 482 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: go from there. And so over time, over the past 483 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: several months, Mariah and Strickland did maintain contact and apparently 484 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: their relationship transitioned more into platonic, more into friendship. But 485 00:31:53,720 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: at the same time, Kitlyn Armstrong discovered this relationship and 486 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: was able to learn more both from Holla Strickland himself 487 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: and also apparently looking at a cell phone, learned more 488 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: about his ongoing friendship with Mariah Wilson and did not 489 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: like it. And so that is what he told police 490 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: as part of a very lengthy interview. Okay, wait, even 491 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: though they were platonic, she still didn't like it. That's exactly. 492 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: That exact is the understanding. Yeah, oh my goodness. You 493 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: know the first thing I would do, runya man, carry us, 494 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: joining us from crime staffers Houston. I would get all 495 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: Caitlin Armstrong, age thirty four, cell phone records and if 496 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: she's got a landline, and I would find out how 497 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 1: many times she had been checking her boyfriend's messages and 498 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: cell phone messages. I would want to find out how 499 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: she hacked into his email. Everything I could prove digitally 500 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: to see how long she had been doing a slow 501 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: burn over her boyfriend, Colin Strickland's relationship now platonic with 502 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: Maria the Cyclist Star. Well, it looks like that's what 503 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: they've been doing. And they've uncovered that Colin and Maria 504 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: had been exchanging texts and phone calls, although he changed 505 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: Maria's name on his phone to not infuriate his girlfriend, 506 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: but she discovered it and she started calling Mariah incessantly. 507 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: Mariah blocked the number, started following her on Instagram and 508 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: following her on what we understand to be Strava, a 509 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: fitness app, to determine her whereabouts so we can see 510 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: Caitlin's actions. That's good, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, 511 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: what did you say about an app? It's called Strava 512 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: or Strava, and it basedically allows a cyclist to check 513 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: in and show his or her followers, you know, the 514 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: point of departure for a bike ride, and then the 515 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: point of return. And apparently, you know, Wilson had had 516 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: pinged her location to the home of Caitlin Cash as 517 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: a as a start of the bike ride and as 518 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: a point of where she returned. And that's where we 519 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: believe our un learned of Wilson's whereabouts, so she would 520 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: like chart her her bike courses online so her followers 521 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: can note where she was riding. And it's very common, 522 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: you know, given technology today, a lot of us live 523 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: our daily lives, sharing our exact whereabouts in real time 524 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: with this community and network of people who follow us. 525 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: That's a big thing that I talk about in terms 526 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: of how dangerous that that really is and really can 527 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: be so dangerous, so dangerous, this is reminding me. Anybody 528 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: on the panel jump in. Remember this is no tea 529 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: party at High Grove. Of two cases number one, Diane Zamora. 530 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: This was commonly called the Cadet murders. She was dating 531 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: a guy David Graham. One catch this was in the 532 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: Naval Academy, now hard that is to get into the 533 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: other one was in West Point, as I recall, and 534 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: the guy David Graham, they're all like eighteen nineteen twenty 535 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: had a one time fleeing with a sixteen year old 536 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: girl he met like how a Wendy's drive through Adrian Jones, 537 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: And when Zamora found out, she demanded revenge. Here you 538 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: go Naval Academy, West Point. She demanded revenge. So the 539 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: two of them go and murder the sixteen year old 540 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: little girl. I mean brutal over what a one ninth 541 00:35:53,760 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: stand that lasted five minutes, seriously and completely completely uncontrolled impulses. 542 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: Then it reminds me of another case if anybody remembers it, 543 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: in the case of this gorgeous pediatrician out of Texas. 544 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: You'll remember this Tony Polhetsky Kendra Hatcher, and she got 545 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: engaged or was getting engaged to doctor McDreamy. She ended 546 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: up getting gunned down in the parking lot, the parking 547 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: garage of her luck's high rise because his ex girlfriend 548 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: had been following her on an app and wanted revenge 549 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: because her boyfriend dumped her and had her gunned down 550 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: dead over a love triangle. Do you remember Kendra Hatcher, 551 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: the pediatric dentist. That's what she was, being gunned down 552 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: and outside of her high rise you got the same 553 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: thing playing out here, Tony Polhatsky. A ridiculous love triangle. Absolutely, 554 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: and that is one of the things that so many 555 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: people have commented upon. I mean, when you look at Armstrong, 556 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: it is her public image and even her image among 557 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: people who knew her stands in stark contrast to what 558 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: she is now accused of doing. She is described as successful, 559 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: accomplished in her own right in the world of business. 560 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: She was a yoga instructor for several years in Bali, 561 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: and so people you mean Caitlin Armstrong, and so people 562 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: are so she was a yogee she was, and balis 563 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: no less, and so people are trying to reconcile that 564 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: image of her based on what police are saying she did. 565 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the video and there's no doubt about it. 566 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: You see Armstrong's black suv going back and forth. It's 567 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 1: it's it's a jeep Cherokee driving around outside the home. 568 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: She's just circling it. Like a vulture. The cars again 569 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: spotted that night after I guess they love object. Collins 570 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: Strickland drops off the victim, twenty five year old Marine 571 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: Wilson and his yogi girlfriend just couldn't stand it. Yoga 572 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: teacher Caitlin Armstrong could not stand it, and now she 573 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: is on the run. Tony Platsky, there's no question, I 574 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 1: guarantee you she's made from Mexico. I mean, I think 575 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 1: that is a true open question. And what law enforcement 576 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: officials tell me is that they really don't have a 577 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: good sense of where she is. I mean, for starters, 578 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: they're looking Nancy right now or the black Cheep Cheep Cherokee, 579 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: and they have not been able to find it anywhere 580 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 1: in the city of Austin or beyond, so obviously they 581 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: want to start there and whether or not it may 582 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: lead them to Caitlin Armstrong ultimately. But priority one, of 583 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: course is finding her. But anything they can do to 584 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: help that in the course of that, including finding the jeeps, 585 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: would be big. Can't check the border crossing. What's the 586 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: closest border crossing, Tony Blahatskin to Mexico from there, and 587 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: it's about three hours south of here. And she's gone. Yeah, 588 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: she probably drove all night long and I would be 589 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: watching the love object Colin Strickland's cell phone. It's gonna 590 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: be very hard for me to believe that she just 591 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: cuts it off cold turkey after she killed for him. 592 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: Doctor Sherry Schwartz helped me a love triangle. I mean, 593 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: if you got a guy is cheating on you who 594 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: wants him anyway, I would send him straight to her 595 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: house CD cash on delivery and don't send him back 596 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: no returns. Absolutely, I agree one hundred percent, Nancy. But 597 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: clearly it seems that Caitlin suffers from this obsessive, pathological, 598 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: toxic jealousy that led to violence, possibly against Mariah. Mm. 599 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: Now I'm wondering where she did go across to Mexico 600 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: and she got away and nobody can find this SUV 601 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: who's helping her. Is one of the things that I'm wondering, 602 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: Jess Goot Morgan, how are they processing the scene? How 603 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 1: are we going to prove that it is in fact 604 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: the yoga loving girlfriend Caitlin Armstrong. Well, I'm glad you 605 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: ask that question because at Austin PD actually served a warrant. 606 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: Let's go back to where she was domiciled with Strickland. 607 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: And this is what they found out. They actually recovered 608 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 1: two pistols at that scene, one in which was a 609 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: six hour nine millimeter. Guests who had access to it 610 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: only armstrong. That's it. And guess what else they did. 611 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: They took this weapon and they test fired it. And 612 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: when they test fired it, it came back. There's a 613 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: high probability that those ejected shells that they found at 614 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: the scene match this particular weapon. What kind of strikes 615 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,919 Speaker 1: me is baffling to me is that they actually this 616 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: individual left this weapon at the scene where it could 617 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 1: be recovered. I don't know what that actually says about 618 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: this individual, but it tells me she didn't make any 619 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: effort to try to take it and throw it in 620 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: a river. Tells me she was highly emotional at the 621 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: time and not thinking correctly. That is not insanity under 622 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: the law. The stoking, the leaving, the hiding out, the 623 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: going on the run shows she knew what she did 624 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: was wrong and for what. And I can tell you 625 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: another thing, SA nobody asked if you're a boyfriend or 626 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 1: a husband is hiding somebody's name and their cell phone out, 627 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: there's a reason he's hiding it. There is a reason 628 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: I've checked my husband's cell phone so many times my 629 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: eyes bled. It was so boring. I quit. Also, he lied, 630 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: didn't he lie? Tony Platski about where he was going 631 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: that day? He's going to a big municipal pool. Anybody 632 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: can see them the deep Eddy. It's not like a 633 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: watering hole. It's a big municipal pool. Anybody could see 634 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 1: him there. Why did he have to lie about it, Tony? 635 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: Or did he? Well? He lied? According to his text 636 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: messages to Armstrong, he lied to her about where he was. 637 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: He described his battery dying, that he had he had 638 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 1: delivered flowers for someone and then its boone battery died. 639 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: I just hate it when that happens. All those batteries 640 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: are always going dead. Well, I've got the application for 641 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 1: a restaurant right here. It's very very detailed, decommedit a 642 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 1: clime online dot com. She's on the run. You may run, 643 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: but you can't hire girl. We wait as justice unfolds 644 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 1: Nancy Gray's crimes story, signing off goodbye friend,