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Speaker 1: let's get a little weekend mail bag at John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff, fire in those dms and get your

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Speaker 1: questions answered on the show. It's not questions from the weekend,

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Speaker 1: but I'm recording this on Monday, about forty five minutes

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Speaker 1: before the Jets play the Dolphins. So let's let's get

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Speaker 1: in the football mode. We will start with Taylor Nosich. Hey, John,

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Speaker 1: do you think Jackson Dart is truly special? Or do

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Speaker 1: you think he did really well? Because there's very little

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Speaker 1: game tape on him. I feel like we've been down

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Speaker 1: this road with other newcomers, guys like the pastronaut in

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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. These guys and many more were gunslingers before

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Speaker 1: defense has figured out how they were gonna stink it up.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Dart is any different than those guys?

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Speaker 1: And why? I honestly, the only thing that you can

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Speaker 1: take away from Dart's first start gave him energy, has

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Speaker 1: physical tools, but to make I mean, I think he

466
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Speaker 1: was thirteen to twenty for one hundred and ten yards.

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Speaker 1: Did you know he ran the touchdown, made some good

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Speaker 1: plays with his legs, his best receiver. I just saw

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Speaker 1: headline about an hour ago. I think the news came

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Speaker 1: out a long time ago. I hadn't really been on

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Speaker 1: the internet this morning. Is what we all knew is

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Speaker 1: that Neighbors is out. So I mean his best by far,

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Speaker 1: I mean, one of the best young skill guys in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. He has gone for the year, so it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be difficult. It's basically him skataboo in a group

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Speaker 1: of randoms. So I'm excited to watch him play. But

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Speaker 1: I think statistically it's not gonna be a great year

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Speaker 1: and they're not gonna win many games. So you just

479
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Speaker 1: you almost got to look forward to next year and listen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was banged up in the first game,

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Speaker 1: his hamstring was tight. Then God didn't hurt his hand,

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Speaker 1: so I would say solid first start, right, The expectations

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Speaker 1: for the franchise are extremely low. Hope, the owner I saw,

484
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Speaker 1: announced that he has cancer today. John morrow, So hopefully

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be okay. We know how difficult that can

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Speaker 1: be seven years old. I mean, I've had in my family.

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Speaker 1: He didn't give us much details, but you know, clearly

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Speaker 1: as best doctor and medical team in New York helping

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Speaker 1: him out. So there's a lot going on with the franchise.

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Speaker 1: You know, is the coach fighting first job? But I

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Speaker 1: would say overall solid first start, But I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's just way, we got a

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Speaker 1: long way to go before we go. He's the real

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Speaker 1: deal or he's not. Mail back. This passed offseason, I

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Speaker 1: heard a lot of talk about the Ravens and the

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Speaker 1: Vikings roster and how good they were going to be,

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Speaker 1: mainly the Vikings rebuilt offensive line. We're now basically a

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Speaker 1: quarter of the way through the season and the Ravens

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Speaker 1: defense and the Vikings offensive line have both been the

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Speaker 1: worst in the league. Are we at the point now

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Speaker 1: where we can say both the Ravens and the Vikings

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Speaker 1: are completely cooked this season, regardless of what happens with

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Speaker 1: the rest of their team. I just don't see how

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Speaker 1: Baltimore can make it anywhere with a defense nearly as

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Speaker 1: bad as the Cowboys, and I think and I can't

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Speaker 1: think of a single quarterback who would be doing well

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Speaker 1: behind possibly the NFL's worst offensive line. Is there any

508
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Speaker 1: bigger setup for failure than throwing McCarthy out there against

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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter and the Eagles defense with an offensive line

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Speaker 1: that allows five hundred sacks per game? Uh? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I would say that Welcome to the NFL. I mean,

512
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Speaker 1: most of these offensive lines in the league are really bad.

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00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: We have an epidemic poor offensive line play. No one

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Speaker 1: practices anymore. College is full of spread offenses. There's no

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Speaker 1: developing anymore because training camps are you know, basically walk

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00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: throughs now glorified walkthroughs. In a lot of places. This

517
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Speaker 1: is not gonna change. Most people are gonna play behind

518
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Speaker 1: bad offense. Mahomes's offensive line last year was atrocious for

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Speaker 1: most of the year. You know, he's like part of

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Speaker 1: the problem with some of these guys coming from college

521
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: is his offensive line in college was dominant. He never

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Speaker 1: got touched. You know, I'd say the same thing for

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Speaker 1: Pennix when he was in God, I think he got

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Speaker 1: sacked like eight times his last year in Washington. That's

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Speaker 1: not the NFL you're gonna get hit all the fucking time.

526
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was getting peppered, Peyton Mann was getting peppered,

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Speaker 1: and that was when they had better offensive lineman fifteen

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Speaker 1: twenty years ago. So it's like, I don't know the

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Speaker 1: offensive line thing, Like a lot of offensive lines are

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Speaker 1: very hit or miss. Most people don't have the nineties

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Speaker 1: Cowboys operation in front of them, So I feel little

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Speaker 1: sympathy for going. Yeah, three of our five offensive linemen

533
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Speaker 1: aren't that good. Yep, that's welcome to the league. Most

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Speaker 1: people are not the Eagles. I would say the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: You know injuries that the best defensive lineman is now

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Speaker 1: I think I saw today out Meta Bouque is out

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Speaker 1: for the season, Vanoy who knows, rokeland Smith's now out

538
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Speaker 1: for several games with a hamstring, Marlon Humphrey's hurt. Like

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Speaker 1: this is you know, in the NFL you need a

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Speaker 1: schemer on defense, but we also need players, right. Vic

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Speaker 1: Fangio's been a good defensive coordinator with Jalen Carter, with

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Speaker 1: with sweat, with Brandon Graham, with with good DBS with

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Speaker 1: Alden Smith and Justin Smith and Patrick Willis you give

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Speaker 1: Vic Fangio me and you you can't. You can't overcome personnel.

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Speaker 1: So I saw the Ravens last year. By the end

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Speaker 1: of the season, they were really good defense. And right

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Speaker 1: now they have a bunch of injuries and they stink,

548
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Speaker 1: and they were really bad. I mean, I think they

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Speaker 1: record for amount of points given up through the first

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Speaker 1: four games. But yeah, they got no chance, absolutely no

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Speaker 1: chance to be any good with a defense that future.

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Speaker 1: You can't win. You can't go above five hundred with

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Speaker 1: one of the worst defenses in the league history. It's

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Speaker 1: impossible because it's impossible to have that good of an offense.

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Speaker 1: Like it's not just like, you know, the number one

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Speaker 1: offense in the league. You have to you'd have to

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Speaker 1: have a historic offense to make up for how shitty

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Speaker 1: your defense was, And clearly the Ravens offense isn't that.

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Speaker 1: One question I have. I started listening to you the

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Speaker 1: past month. I appreciate it. One question I have is

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Speaker 1: do you see the Colts actually competing for a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl this year or even just an appearance in the

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Speaker 1: conference championship game. After not playing their best against the

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Speaker 1: Rams and still keeping it close, I started to get

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Speaker 1: my hopes up. There was one point yesterday, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to watch all four of the afternoon games where

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Speaker 1: it hit me like the culture really good. You know

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Speaker 1: that they are a really good team, and obviously there

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Speaker 1: was it felt like they were gonna win. I think

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones has blown me away. I think Jonathan Taylor

571
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Speaker 1: currently is one of the best players in the league.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Warren looks like a home run draft pick. Defensively

573
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Speaker 1: that they're pretty solid. Obviously they had I gotta go

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Speaker 1: back and I must have not been paying attention. Did

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Speaker 1: he drop a ball in the end zone? I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I gotta go back and look at that play. I

577
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Speaker 1: saw the holding where he kind of grabbed the guy's

578
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Speaker 1: jersey and ripped him down. And Jonathan Taylor had probably

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Speaker 1: if that wasn't holding. I mean, one of the best

580
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Speaker 1: runs of his career was sweet. Looked like genty against

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Speaker 1: the Bears. But I'd feel pretty good. We got a

582
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Speaker 1: long way to go. But I text Coward this like

583
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Speaker 1: midway through that game. The colt for the last five

584
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Speaker 1: years have been a quarterback away from being a good team. Now,

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Speaker 1: how good I Conference championship game? It's hard in the AFC.

586
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Speaker 1: You know, obviously the Bravens look gone. But it's like, Okay,

587
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: are in the second round. You could play the Bills,

588
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: you could play the Chiefs, you could play a hardball

589
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Speaker 1: led Chargers team. You know, it's just gonna be difficult,

590
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Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, I'd feel pretty confident, like you're

591
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Speaker 1: better than the Jags. The jack to me, Trevor Lawrence

592
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: is a concern. Their defense actually is pretty good in Jacksonville.

593
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: Their pass rush is really good. But I just watched

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence to go, I don't see it. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I just don't see it. Everyone's shitting on the toush push.

596
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Speaker 1: And as an Eagles fan, I'm tired of the discourse.

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Speaker 1: Just ban it. We got a Super Bowl and I'm

598
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Speaker 1: sure the play will be in the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: one day, But no one point that people have made.

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Speaker 1: Now one point that people have made, it's just not

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Speaker 1: fun to watch or quote. It hurts the television product

602
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Speaker 1: and the NFL is an entertainment business. But what I'm

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Speaker 1: not hearing anybody discuss this early in the season is

604
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Speaker 1: the excessive flags for taunting. It's making watching a game

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Speaker 1: so deflating. It happened to Cooper de John on a

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Speaker 1: huge third down stop when he stepped over a guy

607
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Speaker 1: that celebrated with his teammates, and to put my bias aside,

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Speaker 1: the week before, Puka made a huge third down catch,

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Speaker 1: flex his biceps and pointed to the fucking end zone

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Speaker 1: and the rest flag him. Maybe it's because it's September,

611
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: nobody's really freaking out, but you will see fan outrage.

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Speaker 1: To me, there's way more damaging than a one yard play.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts, listen, I've said the same thing

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Speaker 1: for targeting, I'd say the same thing for taunting, like

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Speaker 1: unless you do the throat slash or something taunting like

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Speaker 1: this is the NFL that there are millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: in jobs on the line, careers on the line every

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Speaker 1: single time you buckle that chin strap. I just do

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Speaker 1: not understand the over regulation of some of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: And Goodell like, this is a point that I think

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Speaker 1: the owners like, Yeah, I mean, you guys are like

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Speaker 1: eighty years old billionaires and Rogers a sixty six year

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Speaker 1: old guy who's been making fifty million dollars for fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have a great feel for us,

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Speaker 1: the consumer. I mean I really don't, so yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think they overthink this one. Nobody cares. Now you

627
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Speaker 1: could go the broken window theory. If you don't just

628
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Speaker 1: kind of slow it down, it could just get really crazy. Well, like,

629
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Speaker 1: have it pretty clear you know you can't do a

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Speaker 1: fake gun, you can't do a throat slash, but like

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Speaker 1: if you want a flex on an opponent, like this

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Speaker 1: is football, this isn't this isn't the library. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think it's pretty stupid as well.

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Speaker 1: It's always bothered me having been someone that you know,

635
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: joined the Warriors bandwagon when I worked in radio, and

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Speaker 1: I remember going to get games with Stephan Clay before

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Speaker 1: they had won championships, and I was like, these guys

638
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Speaker 1: are awesome. And obviously Draymond has been a pretty big

639
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: wild card, but he gets a lot of texts for

640
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: screaming like fu at the opponent, And I guess I

641
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: get it if you say it to the referee, but

642
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: even then, like this susan junior high, like this is

643
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: the big leagues, and I get there's got to be

644
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: a level of respect, but like this is not a

645
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: normal work environment, so we got to have like different standards.

646
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: Can you please help me understand the Sola quote unquote

647
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: sign legal sign stealing stuff. First Off, that's an oxymoron. Secondly,

648
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: what's the point of him saying that games and ships

649
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: so the second guests clues they think they're getting I'm

650
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm really confused about what this was about. I'll be honest.

651
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: I saw the headlines, but I was traveling on Thursday

652
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: when Solid talks, so I was a little out of

653
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: the loops, and Friday I was I was at the

654
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: Ryder Cup, so I wasn't I wasn't up to speed

655
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: on that story. And then trying to follow yesterday with

656
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: I always say just would have let him fight a

657
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: little bit, like know what's Robert Sala gonna do? Swing

658
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: on them? The league would suspend him, Like what are

659
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: these guys gonna do? Fight? Like, give me a break

660
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: and listen. I I like Robert Sala a lot, but

661
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: saying I'll end your life, like no, you won't. You're

662
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: a multi millionaire. None of you guys are gonna do anything.

663
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: I you know, And I listened to a lot of

664
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: forty nine er stuff like Sla is the one that

665
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: created this. When I got in the NFL, the green

666
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: dot had existed, so the sign stealing stuff that Belichick

667
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: was doing didn't exist anymore, and Belichick did what every

668
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: team in the league did. They would get your signs

669
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: and know your personnel. So if you motion, you know,

670
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: a right fist up or like a touchdown signal or

671
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: just whatever with your hands like a you know, like

672
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: a first or third base coach. They would time up

673
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: your signals with your personnel and potentially the plays you're

674
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: running on defense or offense with the tape and you

675
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: would try to decipher. Now you could change a game

676
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: to game. But now, like if I want a certain

677
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: offensive personnel group on the field, Let's say it's three

678
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: wide receivers are running back in a tight end. Whatever

679
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: that team calls that. I think Andy Reid calls it

680
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: like tiger, that's old West Coast terminology. Well, you would

681
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: tell the quarterback what the play is, but you would

682
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: also start screaming whatever that personnel is and potentially use

683
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: hand signals so and vice versa. Like the defense does

684
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: that as well. So when you bring in a personnel package,

685
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: they try to match it with a personnel package, and

686
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: then based on that personnel package that you bring in

687
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: on the down and distance, right, So if it's second

688
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: in the law, or third and short, or in the

689
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: red zone or whatever area of the field. They have

690
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: studied throughout the week the tendencies, and in a best

691
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: case scenario Belichick style, they kind of know what play

692
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: you're running. And nowadays you're taking an educated guess. So

693
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: I think Sala saying that you've been I guess breaking

694
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: down defensive personnel's hands signals, even though I can just

695
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: say it into the linebackers, like I'm not signaling my

696
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: defensive play call. I'm telling it to the green dot,

697
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: who then tells the team. But I do signal the personnel.

698
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: We want for guys to run off the field and

699
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: guys on the sideline to run on the field. But

700
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like it's not you

701
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: can choose to do that, you can choose not to

702
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: do that. It's not legal or it's not illegal. So

703
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: I didn't see solas quotes. I know deep in forty

704
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: nine er Land people think that Sala is bitter that

705
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: he didn't get the Jacksonville job, and he thought he

706
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: was getting it. Cohen was out and then they fired

707
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: Balky and Cohen got back in and got the job,

708
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: and Sala obviously had to be a defensive coordinator. I

709
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: would say this from a forty nine er perspective, like,

710
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: that's a little concerning. This guy just got running out

711
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: of the building. He's obsessed with being a head coach,

712
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: and which I get it. We all have our ambitions.

713
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: But it's why I always thought it's a little disingenuous

714
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: about like high level college football and pro football. It's like,

715
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: be where your feet is, be present. The coach is

716
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: always saying that, and they're busy, they're trying to get

717
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: another job. So I think there are a lot of

718
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: different elements on this one. That the sign ceiling stuff

719
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: is just a stupid comment. I don't even know why

720
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: he would bring that up. My take would be he

721
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: hates Liam Cohen for some reason. It's just it doesn't

722
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: seem like him just taking the Jacksonville job would be enough.

723
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: Maybe there's something else behind it, but I thought it was, bro,

724
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: you're not a player. What are you doing? Like, you're

725
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: not gonna back this up? What are you gonna do?

726
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: Fight the guy telling him like you could argue. Liam

727
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: yelled at him first, I take my name out of

728
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: your mouth, which I don't blame him Sala did this,

729
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: Sala said this, that this was something he created, and

730
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 1: then he starts saying like I'll end your life, which

731
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: Sala does kind of look like he's on the juice

732
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: right now. He's a big guy, but you're gonna fight him.

733
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: I just I thought the whole thing was kind of stupid,

734
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: kind of embarrassing from Robert honestly, like, Bro, you just lost.

735
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: He just beat you. He didn't beat you. Your defense

736
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: actually played well, but like your team lost. It's a

737
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: team game. There was an individual game because you're kind

738
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: of making this about yourself right now. I've been saying

739
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: all off season and into the season that the Seahawks

740
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: upgraded at quarterback from Gino to Sam, and I've gotten

741
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: pushback NonStop until obviously we've seen what we've seen. Sam

742
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: put up way better numbers in Minnesota than Geno ever

743
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: had a period. Why do you think Gino was touted

744
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: as a better player than Sam when all facts presented

745
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: to us, Gino has this like I'm not in this

746
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: community and honestly don't follow this community that closely beside

747
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: like following some of these guys on Twitter is the stats.

748
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: I would say the analytical community of people that talk

749
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: about football for a living are very high on Gino.

750
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: I don't know if they still are after the last

751
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: couple of games, but have been kind of, you know,

752
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: beating the drum for Geno. Smith's like a top ten quarterback,

753
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: and like he can have moments like he did against

754
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots where he does look really good, but I

755
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: think over the course of the season he's kind of average.

756
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm with you on Sam Donald. Sam Donald was excellent

757
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: last year beside like three games, and then this year

758
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: he looks really good, so I don't even think it's debatable.

759
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: And then when you factor in the age, like Gino

760
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: has a big arm. Okay, cool, there was a lot

761
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: of interceptions. I know Green Bay is looked at by

762
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: most to have won the Mica trade, and I think

763
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: he's a phenomenal player, but as any player that's not

764
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback worth forty seven million dollars a year. In

765
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: your opinion, Dallas is gonna have two additional first round

766
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: picks over the next four or five years on rookie

767
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: deals plus forty seven plus million dollars per year to

768
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: spread around the roster. It actually doesn't. It's not that

769
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: simple like basketball, or baseball. But I know exactly what

770
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: you're saying. They actually don't have they have. You know,

771
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: they gave they gave Micah what one hundred and twenty

772
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: five million dollars guaranteed, Like they have that guaranteed money

773
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: to spread around. Really, so it's it's it's more than

774
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: forty seven. I guess it's just different. But I know

775
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: what you mean, and you're not wrong. Theoretically, I said

776
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: this when they traded him. He's a really talented player

777
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: and no one is better. He's a very natural pass

778
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: rusher and obviously his ability to run you down and

779
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: use athleticism, he's a special athlete. But this was not

780
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: training for Reggie White in his prime. He's not remotely

781
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 1: And this is more of a compliment to Miles Garrett,

782
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: but he's not Miles Garrett. And if you're gonna go

783
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: all in on him, like, the only way for this

784
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: to work is your team has to, to me minimum,

785
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: get to the NFC Championship game, and to me, he's

786
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: got to have fifteen to twenty sacks and be one

787
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: of the best players in the league. It's like, what

788
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: was that last night? Now, maybe he banged up his back,

789
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: but you need like dominant performances, and that's a classic game.

790
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, our defense is playing like crap. Our

791
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: defense looks like the Cowboys, and listen, it's football. Sometimes

792
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: you have weird games, high school, college pros. It's every

793
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: no one's immune to this, or he's have a weird game.

794
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: The Dak's playing well, Brian Schottenheimer's calling a good game. Okay, cool. Well,

795
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: Micah did have one huge moment where he stopped Dak

796
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: for the Uh, you know, the probably would have scored.

797
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 1: I don't think we know for a fact, but let's

798
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: just say he would have scored. He tackles them and

799
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: ultimately that led to the field goal that led to

800
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: a tie. But how were not there weren't like four

801
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: or five more of those moments where maybe he creates

802
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: a couple sacks and instead of the Cowboys driving down

803
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: the field and getting a touchdown, mikeh has like two

804
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: sacks on a drive and gets them off the field.

805
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: And that's the difference in the game. Like they needed

806
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: that last night. It's not about Micah versus the Cowboy.

807
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: It could have been any team in that situation. It's like, Okay, Micah,

808
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 1: we gave you one hundred and eighty eight million dollars.

809
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna see every penny of this contract.

810
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: Can you just make some crazy shit happen? And he

811
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: just couldn't. He just he just didn't really, so I

812
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: would say if I'm a Packer fan, I was like, God,

813
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: I mean, we need a little more from you. With

814
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: so many people focusing on the Eagles offensive struggles, it

815
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: has been underrated just how awful the defensive backfield is.

816
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: Adri Jackson and Ringo maybe two of the worst players

817
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. That being said, would you consider Quinnon

818
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: Mitchell an early Defensive Player of the Year candidate based

819
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: on how much they rely on them? I was kind

820
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: of going back and forth audio between the morning games

821
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: and one thing, because you know, part of listening to

822
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 1: the audio is just It's why primetime games the job

823
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: I do are just easier to do because you're just

824
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: getting more information and like when a guy gets injured,

825
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: like you just might not if you're watching silent, you're

826
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: watching other games, you might not realize what's going on.

827
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: But they said that he was following around. It looked

828
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: like Chris Godwin in that game, and that's usually something

829
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: Fangio doesn't do. I would say this, most defenses do

830
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: not have two good corners. You know, you guys were

831
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: pretty lucky, and you could say Slay was slipping a

832
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 1: little bit, but obviously Slay's been a really good player

833
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: if you have two, you know, I think Mitchell is

834
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: a high end corner and has an opportunity to be

835
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: one of the best players at his position for his career.

836
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: But like, they're you can't pay all these other players.

837
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: You're paying your offensive line, paying the wide receivers, you're

838
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: paying your quarterback, you're paying your running back, you paid

839
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: the linebacker. You've invested draft picks in the defensive line. Like,

840
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna need some random guys to play some of

841
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: these other positions. So I don't really know what. You're

842
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: not gonna have a perfect roster. There's no such thing

843
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: as basically in the salary cap situation that all these

844
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: teams are in to be like, yeah, we have no weakness,

845
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: so you're gonna have a shitty corner and ideally your

846
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: pass rush gets there. Safety help can have, you know, help,

847
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: But I listen to Dori Jackson Ringo, you could sign

848
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: other guys in the practice squad. But this is gonna

849
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: be like, it's just gonna be it. I don't know

850
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: what to tell you. And you can win a super Bowl,

851
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: your offense needs to clearly play better. But like teams

852
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: have won super Bowls with average second corners, Hey, John

853
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: love the pod. The special teams around the league has

854
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: been either really good or god awful. As both Iowa

855
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: and a Packers fan, I was hurting last night watching

856
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: the way the game played out because I got spoiled

857
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: with the literal best special teams play in college football

858
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: at Iowa and some of the worst special teams play

859
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: watching the Packers. Would it be unreasonable idea for Goodikins

860
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: to get on the phone with LeVar Woods today and

861
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: to essentially what they did with half Way a year ago.

862
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: I would imagine is that the Iowa special teams coordinator

863
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: you paid Rich Pasacci. I'm sure a lot of money.

864
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: He's probably one of the highest based special teams coaches

865
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 1: in the league. And like, there is clearly these field

866
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: goals getting blocked, Pats field goals. I don't ever remember

867
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: anything quite like it. I don't know if some of

868
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: the players are not focused on that play, but there

869
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: are lanes. These guys are getting through that. It's you know, forever,

870
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: when a field goal got blocked, it'd be like, oh,

871
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: it was off Kalaeis Campbell, who's six foot seven's fingertips,

872
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: You'd be like, want to play now. It's like, there

873
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: are three guys right there to block this thing. And

874
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: how often lately has the dude that blocked it just

875
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: been like right in front of the kicker and picked

876
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 1: it up. I mean the one the Eagles had against

877
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: the Rams, the guy that blocked it takes out the holder.

878
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: And Jordan Davis is also right there, who I'm pretty

879
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: sure blocked an earlier field goal him Er Jalen. They're

880
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: just constantly around the kicker. So I don't know, listen.

881
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: I I'm more Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Matt Lafleur. I

882
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: don't like special teams either, but that's not my job.

883
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: Right most of us we take piss breaks when special

884
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: teams comes on the field. If you're the head coach,

885
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: kind of matters. I would say Rich Pasacia's spot. The

886
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: amount of pressure that's on the Packers right now is immense.

887
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: These guys are coaching and GMing for a contract extension.

888
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: They just made one of the boldest moves in the

889
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: history of the franchise, definitely financially, and I mean, when's

890
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: the last time the Packers. I just don't remember them

891
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: doing anything quite like this. If you think about, like,

892
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: what were their two most important moves defensively over the years. Well,

893
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: Reggie White was a free agent, so they didn't have

894
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: to give up any draft capital, and so was Charles Woodson.

895
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 1: So it's like they didn't trade for those two players.

896
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: They traded for Farv. They used the twenty fourth pick

897
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: on Rogers, the twenty seventh pick or twenty ninth pick

898
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: whatever it was on Love. But like they traded two

899
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: first rounders and gave this guy one hundred and eighty

900
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: eight million dollars. So it's everyone better beyond edge there,

901
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: starting with a special teams coach. Figure the shit out.

902
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: Simple question. If the offense continues to sputter in Philadelphia

903
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: and it's clear Patolo Patola or Patolo not sure how

904
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: to spell he put in O. I think it's an

905
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: A and it's clear he needs to go. Does Sirianni

906
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: even take a chance at calling plays? If not, then who? Lol?

907
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: I would say this Uh, I didn't know this last

908
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: night when I was recording, but I guess AJ Brown.

909
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: I saw some people say AJ Brown the first that

910
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: puts his fantasy numbers ahead of winning. Clearly he's not happy,

911
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: which in a weird way, I kind of understand. You know,

912
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: you're one of the best players at your position. They

913
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: can't get you the ball. Your quarterback's throwing balls all

914
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: over the place. It's like, I'm a champion now I'm

915
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: trying to be a legend. Throw me the fucking pill.

916
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: And I got an offensive coordinator that the offense looks

917
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: dramatically worse, the quarterback's confidence looks shaken. Thank God for

918
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: the tush push. But it's like AG Brown has a

919
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: chance to make it weird, you know. I mean, let's

920
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: face it, Brandon Graham said what he said. We all

921
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: believed him. They can try to erase what he said,

922
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: and he could even run it back like he was

923
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: being honest. And that relationship something weird is there now

924
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: when you win a Super Bowl, just like you could

925
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: have a weird relationship with a partner in business, if

926
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: you have your best year ever financially, you're gonna deal

927
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: with them. Well, then when things like when someone feels

928
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: slighted or not getting the credit or maybe makes a

929
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: little bit less money. Like problems around, problems come back

930
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: to the surface, and for aj you can call them

931
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: selfish like receivers are. They're very selfish part of the deal.

932
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: And you'd think, well, he won a championship, he's being

933
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: paid a bunch of money. He clearly wants the ball.

934
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: He wants the rock, and the offensive coordinator and the

935
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: quarterback are not getting into him. And when you're a

936
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: guy like that, you're at it looks like your quarterback

937
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: and the offense is averaging like one hundred and fifty

938
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: yards passing a game. I don't even know if it's

939
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: that high. People are gonna get edgy. Honestly, it's the

940
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: most interesting thing about the Eagles. You're gonna learn not

941
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: to disrespect in all caps, the Los Angeles Rams. We

942
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: pull it up to Sofi North and winning a chip.

943
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: Go ahead and bet on that forty nine ers, clown.

944
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: Add that to your mail bag, nerd. You know, I

945
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: don't think of all things I've ever been called, and

946
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: I've been called a lot of things on the internet

947
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: and social media streets, I don't think i've ever been

948
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: called the nerd, which honestly, I take a little bit

949
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: of pride in being called because that means you think

950
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm intelligent, which the reason I've never been called that

951
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: is because I don't think most people think, like God,

952
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: Middlecown's pretty smart. But I appreciate it, and I don't

953
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: think it's so fine North, given that the forty nine

954
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: ers typically sell out your building, which I would imagine

955
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: on Thursday, even though I think they're in a little

956
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: trouble because of the injuries. Did Sunday Nights game just

957
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 1: prove that the NFL should swallow their pride and adopt

958
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: the college football overtime rules? This question same thing. It

959
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: is fucking dumb for a game to end in a tie,

960
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: and the NFL should do something about it. They should

961
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: at least come up with some sort of tiebreaker, even

962
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 1: just having each team take turns kicking fifty yard field

963
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: goals until one of them misses, or the NFL could

964
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: just be smart and adopt the ot college rules. I

965
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: do believe if you think about basketball in baseball, it's

966
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: impossible to end in a tie, right Baseball, because no

967
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: one except Bob Costas wanted to watch games till two

968
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: in the morning started putting a runner on second. In basketball,

969
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: you just go five minute quarters and you just try

970
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: to end the thing right. And in football in the

971
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: regular season like ending in a tie. It's better than

972
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: a loss. Right. But if you're the pack so for

973
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: the Cowboys that they can win six games, be six

974
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: ten and one, which actually will cost them draft position potentially.

975
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: And for the Packers, this could be the difference of

976
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: you know, not that not winning that game could be

977
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: the difference in winning division. I'd have no problem with

978
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: college football overtime rules. I think a lot of people

979
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: would push back. I'd be all for it. I'm cool

980
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: with it. I'd even just do this. How about like

981
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: you get a two point both teams get two point conversions.

982
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: I'd be cool with that. It's like, listen, that's not

983
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: the way the game's played. Well, you had sixty to

984
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: determine it, so now it's time to fucking end it right.

985
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: That's why I was for the runner on second base.

986
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: We've watched night innings and no one can win. No

987
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: one wants to keep watching this thing. Go for another

988
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: six innings. Put a runnerund second, let's play, score some

989
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: runs and get the hell out of here, right, I'd

990
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,479
Speaker 1: say the same thing for college. Everyone's like, I hate

991
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: the college rule. Well, they had sixty minutes to someone

992
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: to win the game and no one could. So now

993
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: it's time to determine this thing quick, especially in a

994
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: game like football where physically it's takes a toll on you.

995
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: I'd go right to just each team gets two point

996
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: conversion and first team to either get stuffed or you

997
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: know whatever. Right, I make you miss, I win, I

998
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: make you make we go, we get another round. I'd

999
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: be fine with that. And I want to hear that's

1000
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: not the purity. The purity of the game is the

1001
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: actual game. What is with the sudden obsession with changing

1002
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: field goals? We're getting longer kicks every year and more

1003
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: blocks than ever. I couldn't think of a more on

1004
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: the edge of your seat ending if I tried. Kicking

1005
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 1: is skill position like any other and is neither automatic

1006
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: or random. The best receivers drop balls, the best quarterbacks

1007
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: miss throws, and the best kickers miskicks all the while,

1008
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: if your offense or defensive line sucks, it'll blow up

1009
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: in your face, much like any other play. Leave field

1010
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: goals alone, I agree I don't what are people talking

1011
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: about getting rid of field goals? Yeah, I mean I

1012
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: think it's it's an exhilarating play. I think two things

1013
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: have been changed dramatically. I think the pat moving back

1014
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 1: and Belichick gets credit for that one is just adds

1015
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: a little excitement. You never know. It's a little bit

1016
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: longer you can miss obviously the block potential and the

1017
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: kickoff rule is dramatically more entertaining. One. We're getting returns

1018
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: which we just simply were not. And to their strategy.

1019
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,479
Speaker 1: You see some of these teams do these like weird

1020
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: kicks and the guys don't know how to field it.

1021
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: Some of them try to angle it kick out of bound.

1022
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: You get it at the forty. If you kick it

1023
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: too far, they get at the thirty. Five. Just become

1024
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: an intriguing play, and that was easily a couple of

1025
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: years ago the most boring play in the NFL. Yesterday,

1026
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: I missed a play and I look up. I come

1027
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: back from the bathroom and the Jags are at like

1028
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: the fifty yard line. I'm like, how do they get there?

1029
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: Because they returned it like fifty four yards. Maybe they

1030
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: were at like the forty. I mean it was like,

1031
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: how do they get there? And that's the thing. It

1032
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: used to just be like automatic kicking the end zone,

1033
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: kneel at twenty yard line. If we want to score

1034
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: a touchdown, we gotta go eighty, and if we want

1035
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: to kick a field goal, we gotta go like forty.

1036
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: Now it's like, if you just break one tackle, you're

1037
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: already at like the forty yard line. And some of

1038
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: these kickers are so good you really just have to

1039
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: go like fifteen yards so you can get in field goal.

1040
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 1: You could have twenty six seconds left on the clock

1041
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half, and if you

1042
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: have a decent return, you can easily get in field

1043
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: goal range. Shit, Brandon Aubrey, you just got to get

1044
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: to like the fifty yard line. So if I get

1045
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: to the thirty five, I really just need one explosive

1046
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: play too. I have a chip shot for him, but

1047
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: I hear you the volume